Episode 3505： Meltdown Over The Christian Aura Around Trump
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Summary
Donald Trump has turned the Republican Party into something resembling the Church of Trump. In its place, what we see are people almost in prayer. The net effect here is that Trump s rallies have become almost a religious experience.
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I'm here in South Carolina for a Donald Trump rally where thousands of people have been lining up for
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hours to get inside. Showing the endless devotion that these supporters have for the former president.
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One of the more striking ways we see this impassioned loyalty from Trump fans
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is at the end of his rallies where there's a sudden shift in tone where it goes from
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very high energy into almost a solemn church-like atmosphere. Where Trump gives a 10 to 15 minute
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sermon preaching to his crowd his faithful flock of supporters. Three years ago we were a great nation
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and we will soon be a great nation again. Initially his supporters greeted this moment by holding up
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an index finger into the air signaling QAnon, the movement of conspiracy theorists, even though
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the Trump campaign has distanced itself from that movement. In its place what we see are people
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almost in prayer. The net effect here is Trump has turned the Republican Party into something
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resembling the Church of Trump. There are a couple of reasons why Trump is doing this. One is to
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deflect and distract from the 90-some charges he's facing. You know he's portraying himself as a
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persecuted political martyr here. As someone who is being targeted because of his supporters beliefs
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and not because of anything he's done wrong. And in the end they're not after me they're after you.
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I just happen to be standing in the way and I always will. And another is a more nuts and bolts campaign
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effect. The Trump campaign can spend less money turning out these voters. These devotees will come out in
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mass to vote for him, while on the other hand, Democrats will try to use this against him. We'll
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try to use these images to make this seem cult-like in order to spook moderate voters back into their column.
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Donald Trump as a religious figure, Michael Bender, I found your article today so interesting because
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I've been to like a hundred more Donald Trump rallies and they have a certain religious fervor to them.
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They always have. But there is something notably different now. Tell me what you've observed.
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Yeah, it's these like last 10 or 15 minutes of his rally. I mean these rallies have long been known as
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for being raucous and volatile and off script. But now they change. It is a very big tone shift in
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these last few minutes for his finale. It's very reverent, soft, reflective music plays throughout the
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uh, throughout the arena. And he kind of recites this fairly tightly scripted, especially for
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former President Trump, uh, a kind of political creed, uh, for his MAGA nation. And, um, I've had,
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you know, I, I grew up Catholic. It reminded me a little bit of the Nicene creed, uh, we used to say
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in church. And, uh, but I've, I've had other people describe this to me as, no, no, this is an altar call
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at the end of, uh, of a lot of Christian services, this kind of ambient music plays and people come
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down and, and, and proclaim their, their, their faith and, you know, in their Lord and savior.
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And, and Trump has really, you know, this is how he's positioned himself in this, in this third
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campaign. He is the, uh, you know, again, he is very careful not to call himself a Jesus figure,
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but he, he very much presents himself as the one true Republican leader. And we've seen this at
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multiple levels of the party, him replacing supporters at the Republican national committee
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with people who are even more loyal to him, arm twisting in Congress to get people to back off
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endorsements or to back off legislation that might be, uh, harmful to his campaign. And among the rank
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and file level, this is how he does it. He's turned his rallies, uh, into a sort of aesthetic,
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uh, church-like experience. Um, and, and, and supporters, uh, eat it up. I mean, they are,
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um, you will at the end of the rally, you'll see people kind of bow their heads, uh, hold their,
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you know, hold their arms close to their chest and, uh, almost like they're praying along with them.
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Using this religious language, his supporters reacting to him again as a religious figure.
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Is that, um, is that siloing off these voters or is it expanding the tent in this America and
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America 2024 going into the election in November? What are you, what are you hearing as you do your
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reporting on the ground? Yeah, well, I've, I've, look, I've talked to a number of Trump supporters,
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um, over the past couple of months and a few weeks after that conversation that you guys reported in
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Iowa, I was talking to a group of Trump supporters in, in South Carolina, and they were telling me how
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they feel like they have a personal relationship with Donald Trump and that he cares about them.
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He doesn't just care about the country, he cares about them. And, and it's one of the things that
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I think may get lost is that, you know, for some voters and we talk to them, um, it's about the
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policies or about the lesser of two evils. But one of the reasons why Trump's base of loyalists is so
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steadfast is because they think he's a good guy and they think he cares about them and they don't
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think that he has done anything wrong. And by the way, Katie, they don't think he's going to do
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anything extra constitutional with this next term. If he wins it, they don't believe that he's going
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to try and stick around after the term ends. They don't believe that he's going to try and
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bend the constitution to his will in any illegal manner. When he talks about being a dictator on day
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one, they understand that in their minds to mean he's going to pass executive orders like every new
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president does on day one. And so it's just a completely different, uh, frame of mind for them.
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But one of the reasons why they stick with him is we, you know, we can tick off the things that he
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has done to push voters away, but he's also, you know, done these things to bring a community of
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voters closer to him and keep them. And that's why he is in the position he is in.
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Go Andrew Weissman. And I mean, you're describing ultra fair and, and I, and I appreciate that you went
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farther than to say a singular standard. He now exists in a status only available to him when
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available to Jeffrey Epstein wasn't available to, to mob. I mean, it, it exists only for him.
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And I wonder if at some point we stop with all of this, we say he was too much for the judicial
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system. I have some breaking news on that front. I'll bring it to you in a second. But I, but I wonder if
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this, if the, if it's a charade at this point, Andrew Weissman, if we should just have a conversation
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with the voters say, listen, it is always up to you who you want to represent you every four years,
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but now more than ever, you are voters, you are jurors. Here's all the facts as I see them.
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Well, I do think that we are at a situation where you do have to ask yourself at a time when you see a
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federal judge, a sitting federal judge having to go on air to defend the rule of law. But you don't
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see that by members of Congress condemning violence. You don't see that from the Department of Justice
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understanding the situation we're in speaking out in the way, for instance, Archibald Cox had spoken out.
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And, you know, you have three former prosecutors here with Claire and Tim and my experience.
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And if you would ask any of us, if we ever had a defendant like this and their name was not Donald
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Trump, would any of us say that the judge wouldn't have hauled that person in and read them at the very
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least read them the riot act about what they can and cannot do? That would have happened the moment of
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the of the of the post being made with respect to the current president. Remember, this has nothing
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to do with a gag order. It is simply a crime to threaten the president of the United States.
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But it's also something that can lead to having a much, much stricter gag order. All of that would
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have happened by now. And it's the idea that he can say that he's being treated unfairly is is so laughable,
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because I think anybody on this panel would say he's been treated with kid gloves by the system.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly
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full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop
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that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the
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the big line? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,
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this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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It's Easter Monday, one April in the year of our Lord, 2024. So the day we did the Tale of Two Cities
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at the beginning about New York City in the four days, you know, four days in March, Holy Thursday,
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Good Friday, Holy Saturday, and Easter Sunday, Resurrection Sunday, about what went on in New York
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and the difference in these campaigns. I said it could encapsulate the choice the nation has,
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but the direction the nation wants to go in those four days. Now, Michael Bender, who I think is a
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very, you know, look, he's New York Times, so he's always going to be biased, but he was over at the
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Wall Street Journal for years. He's written a huge piece in the New York Times today about all this
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Christian imagery, this new Christian imagery that's been infused into the Trump campaign.
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And right there, and I really want to thank Denver, in particular our production team here
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for doing that great cold open, because that comparison contrasts now even another subset of
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two different sides of this. You get the Andrew Weissman, Nicole Wallace, and all they're doing, and I keep
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telling folks, and we're going to make some announcements here in the next couple of days,
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because we are going to do quite big coverage with Real America's Voice on the trial in New
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York City. And the reason is it's going to be a global media event. In fact, Hope Hicks was announced
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today, I think under subpoena. She's going to come and be a witness for the prosecution.
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Remember, the prosecution, when they send you these subpoenas, you don't have a choice
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on these trials of not showing up. And they've got, they're going to be subpoenaing a lot of people.
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But this is not about any kind of business records or anything like that. This is their shot,
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the one shot they've got using lawfare to try to smear Trump, position Trump in the people's minds.
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And particularly here, they're going to go to the storm because they think, hey, this is very simple.
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You've got porn stars, you've got playbait bunnies, you've got the Billy Bush situation, you're going to
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have all this. And that'll be simple for people to understand orange man bad, orange man bad.
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So that's what they're going to do. And the coverage, the global media coverage is going to
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be unbelievable. MSNBC, particularly Nicole Wallace and a couple of the announced, they are
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literally spending every second of every day of, oh my gosh, a gag order, Trump's been treated with
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the kid gloves. I mean, this is pure election interference. This is never, if you look at and
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conceive of or just conceptualize what's happening. Never before in American history, ever, not even
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have we had as much election interference by these radical Democrats. They do not want Trump
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to get a fair hearing in front of the American people. Forget a trial. We know they don't want
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that, but in front of the American people. On the other hand, you're seeing they're all now
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completely and totally freaked out. And by the way, if we could prep, which I will call for Amy
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Semple Brzezinski, that I've got to play that again. Amy Semple Brzezinski. They're so freaked
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out that their coalition's not coming together. It's not coming together. So they have to do two
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things. Number one, say that Trump is a cult. Now Trump is infusing this with Christian imagery,
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and Trump is trying to run as Jesus, and Trump is trying to be Christ-like, and we know that Trump
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is a devil. That's what they're saying. Also, at the same time, they're putting out their false,
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phony, self-serving. All of a sudden, all of them are in love with Jesus, right? All of them are
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Jesus's, you know, Jesus is my bestie. They're all hugging up on that. Remember, you probably didn't hear
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that for, I don't know, years and years and decades and decades, but now it's, they got to do that
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because they understand in their coalition certain elements like the Hispanic community and the
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African-American community are quite conservative socially, socially conservative, and they like
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traditional values, and they don't like what's happening. Like, here's what they don't like.
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They particularly don't like Transgender Visibility Day at the White House on Easter Sunday.
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Now, we've got Brandon Showalter. Brandon's going to join me at the top of the sixth hour,
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and he's going to walk through, you know, all from Whitmer to President Newsom and First Lady
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Newsom, you know, their video messages, Biden, Hochul, all of them on this transgender, and now they realize
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there's some heat they're trying to back off a little bit, but that is the alternative religion
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they're putting up from Christianity, this kind of merger of this, you know, this Gaia-infused
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voodoo that combines a climate cult with transgender ideology and a little dose of transhumanism on top
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of it to get some, I don't know, some weird pagan religion for the 21st century, and they're freaked
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out that particularly, as Ralph Reed said, hey, there's 30 million unregistered Christians that are
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now coming to the, are awakening to the fact that you have to be in the public square, and you have to
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defend your religion in the public square, and you have to fight in the public square.
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So we're going to take a short commercial break. Remember, turbulence all over. We're back.
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Alex DeGrass is going to join us later in the show about redistricting. Yes, you, War Room
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You know, somebody the other day said to me, Zerlina, well, but you know, Joe Biden's old. I
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said, you know what? Joe Biden is old. Let's go ahead and accept the reality. Joe Biden is old,
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so we have a contest between one candidate who's old, but who's done an effective job
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and doesn't threaten our democracy. We have another candidate who is old, barely makes sense
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when he talks, is dangerous, and threatens our democracy. Really, pick between your two old
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ones and figure out how you're going to save our democracy, because no matter where you stand on
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the political spectrum, you want to maintain freedom and the rule of law and protection for
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people's fundamental rights, or at least I used to think so. You know, I've been very vocal about
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this. It's horrifying. Our numbers among younger voters, particularly black, younger blacks, younger
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Latinos or whatever, but whatever younger, younger people of color, particularly males.
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We're not shedding them. They're leaving in the droves.
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You know, Charlie Sykes, yesterday, you know, celebrating Easter, we went to church. We heard
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from a pastor who made this point. I mean, there's so many good points in his sermon, but it's that
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Easter was a day for renewal, to think about your relationship with God, to think about your
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relationship with Jesus, because he loves you unconditionally, because it's a relationship
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that you have with your God, with God, and not religion. It's not a relationship with religion.
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It's not a relationship with politics. It's not a relationship with a person. It's a relationship
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with God, and today is your day to, maybe it hasn't been so good, but here's your day to come back.
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It was very beautiful, and then, you know, reading in for the show this morning, it was very
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jarring to see a candidate, the frontrunner for the Republican nominee, just, there's a word I want
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to use, but just tear all over that, that concept, and make it about himself.
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Wow, that Carvel, I think that was from Maury Milber the other day, he kind of lays it out,
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their coalition's not coming together, not even close, as he said, they're leaving in the droves.
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Part of this is us continue to hammer on the economics of it. Remember, young people under
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35 are the new Russian serfs. There's a report out today, I think for the first time in American
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history, it's more expensive to buy in everything than to rent in every different real estate market
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in the country. I'll have more on that tomorrow as I can delve into the report overnight, make sure I
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understand it. And this is why now they're freaking out. This is why they're going to hammer Trump
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thinks he's Christ, Trump is running a cult, these people are dangerous, they're outside the mainstream.
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No, no, no. The Judeo-Christian West is the foundational element in the foundation of the
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country. Oh my gosh, they're going to go crazy. Isn't this Christian nationalism talk? This is reality
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talk about the United States of America. You can come back with all the multicultural stuff you want,
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that's all fine. The Christian faith in this nation has always welcomed other faiths, so you need to
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practice your own faith and your own idea of how do you get to God. But this civilization is built on
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the foundations of the Judeo-Christian West. Full stop. We're the new Jerusalem. Full stop.
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And they're starting to freak out because they see their coalition not coming together, so they're
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throwing everything up. That's why this trial on the 15th is not about business records.
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The trial on the 15th is to destroy Trump in front of the American people, and particularly
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women. Although I don't, I'm pretty adamant you don't, you shouldn't go out of your way to chase
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that vote. You put forward your program, and if it votes for you, great. If it doesn't, there's many
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other demographics and coalitions that are being built right now. You can see in the African-American
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community and the Hispanic community coming more to this populist message every day. But, you know,
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Amy Semple Brzezinski shows you what they're going to do. They're all going to be loving up on Jesus
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now because they don't really want to expose their true ideology. What's their true ideology?
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You saw it over the last four days and culminating on Easter Sunday. The most, you know, Christmas is
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one thing, but Lent and, you know, Advent and Christmas obviously ends in a celebration, the birth of
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Christ. But Lent, Ash Wednesday, Lent, and then leading up to Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Holy
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Saturday, hey, that's like the real deal. That's the most solid, that's like the high holy days in the
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Jewish faith. This is the most solemn part of the Christian and Catholic calendar. Biden is so freaked
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out now. He's issuing one statement after the other that, hey, we didn't, you know, I didn't know we did
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that. I didn't issue that. It's some staffer, no, not good enough. It was on your letterhead with the
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big, you know, proclamation from the White House. You're telling me that Zen master Jean-Pierre
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doesn't run that stuff by you, that you just put these massive proclamations under your name?
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And I think quoting, had a quote from Genesis? Brandon Showwater, I think, is going to get us
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straight on that in the next hour. That you didn't know anything about this? Well, you know,
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Newsom did because he put out a video, and Whitmer did. It's your new ideology. You're a
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confluence, a convergence of this radical climate change, Gaia, paganism. It's a pagan,
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it's a pagan cult, pagan religion, coupled with radical transgender ideology, another bizarro
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cult, and it's a cult. Don't take it from me, take it from Dr. Marion Grossman, take it from
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these experts in the field. They're sitting there going, now is it totally false and phony?
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It's a cult. The convergence of that. And this is what you've got. You've got this, you've got
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this radical, this radical ideology that's counter. It's an, it's a, it couldn't be clearer.
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Yes, it's tax policy, it's national security. So, but it gets down to a couple of basic things
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like the invasion of the southern border. That not only has not stopped, you do understand
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it's getting worse every day. One, they want it to be worse. Two, they think they get more voters
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in here, or people that can fake like they're voters. Number three, they actually want it for
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the economy. Their measure of the economy is you're not good enough, you're not buying enough,
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you won't work cheaply enough, or essentially for free. So they have to get more people in here.
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And also the fact that they know they can be shown the door here quite quickly.
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And all this gets about, oh, accountability, these people are going to be wrenched. We're
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not revenge. I said the other day, investigate, litigate, adjudicate, incarcerate. How's that?
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Have a flow that have a, you like the process there? But we are going to investigate. It has
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to be investigated. We're not going to just sit here and let you steal an election. We're
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not going to sit here and let you try to destroy this country. We're not going to just sit here
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and allow you to destroy the greatest nation in the history of the earth and the citizens
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of that country, which you're destroying. We're not going to just sit there and go,
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that's fine. No, no, you have to be held accountable.
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With great power goes great responsibility. Well, you stole the power and then you did bad
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and evil things. You must be held accountable for it. As sure as the turning of the earth,
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I don't care how much you whine and cry and, oh no, and Nicole Wallace loses it. She got
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that whiny, teeny voice. That's where they're putting so much on the 15th. All the chips are
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going in the table for them. All the chips are going in the middle of the table. That's
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where they're all going. Because they have to stop Trump. Trump is the evil one. I can't
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wait till they wake up and understand that President Trump and the movement that he created
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is a moderate. He's a good man. He's got a big heart. He's a very nice guy. That's what that
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great piece right there. People think, they think that he cares about them. They know that he cares
00:25:14.600
about them. They think that he's thinking about them. That's what they say when they go.
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Oh, this guy understands where I am. This guy understands where the country is. He understands
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how angry I am. He understands how frustrated I am. He understands how powerless I am.
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And he exudes that and connects. What did Shaw say? Only connect. He connects. That Biden,
00:25:39.540
these rest can't. The none of them. It's a joke. That's where they hate Trump. They hate Trump
00:25:45.260
because of the connection. They hate Trump because of the passion of his followers. And
00:25:50.780
of course, they've demonized you to all over the map. Orange man bad and orange man supporters
00:25:57.020
worse. This is why it's the greatest comeback in the American political history with virtually
00:26:04.720
no money. Remember, they're rubbing, they're spiking the football. They had $26 million. Suck
00:26:09.920
on that. How's that? And President Trump's got one coming in April. Now, look, as you know,
00:26:15.260
I'm not fond of that sort of thing, but in modern politics, it's got to be done.
00:26:22.700
And right now, MAGA's tapped out. You know, you guys are pretty tapped out. The small donors
00:26:26.480
can't give because they're hurting. This is why 2016 was the miracle of all miracles. We ended up
00:26:32.820
in the White House, didn't owe anybody anything. I told him, I said, you understand that this has never
00:26:37.060
happened before in politics and maybe back at the founding of the, of the Republic.
00:26:42.980
It's Roger Kimball told us today about the issues of factions and General Washington's farewell address.
00:26:49.420
But no, unbelievable. Trump didn't owe anybody here because Biden's raising $2 billion. President
00:26:57.480
Trump's got to take large donor, large donor checks. I'm not a fan of that, but he's not going to change
00:27:04.320
his fundamental policies. He may have to, you know, a little bit because that's just nature of politics.
00:27:08.800
But Trump, boom, populism. Trump, boom, nationalism. Trump, boom, America first. Just bang, bang, bang.
00:27:17.320
And they hate him because they understand your commitment to him. And part of your commitment
00:27:24.720
is you understand, wait for it, MSNBC. Wait for it. Wait for it. No, don't go. Wait for it.
00:27:31.080
Again, he is an instrument of divine providence. Yep, he is. No, of that there's no doubt. There's
00:27:40.120
empirical evidence of that. This is one of the reasons people support him because they understand
00:27:46.560
he's doing God's will to save this Republic. When all rationality said, no, let me not do that,
00:27:57.420
they win. Trump wouldn't do that. Trump would never quit. Trump would never back down. And that's
00:28:03.600
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00:30:59.120
how the enemy views us, how the enemy breaks this down in information warfare. Now I've
00:31:06.680
got a brilliant young man that's done an incredible job. Let me play the cold open. We've got Alex
00:31:11.800
de Grasse on here of where the War Room policy has put his shoulder to the wheel in more victories.
00:31:17.400
Let's go ahead and have it, and we'll bring Alex in.
00:31:23.560
Remember them? Well, they're in South Carolina, and they're looking at a new district map,
00:31:27.880
a map that courts have already called unconstitutional. Now, this was the map before redistricting in 2022,
00:31:37.080
six Republican districts and one Democratic district. And now this is the map that was challenged after it
00:31:43.720
was drawn in 2022. The same number of districts, but a few changes near Charleston that make one
00:31:50.200
district less competitive than it was before. Civil rights groups sued. They argued the map was drawn to
00:31:56.600
intentionally move thousands of black voters into a different district for political reasons and dilute
00:32:02.360
their voting strength. A three-judge panel frankly agreed. South Carolina... Let me have it.
00:32:08.520
Um, so de Grasse, and I want to go through, we got other better clips too. We're going to play later in the week
00:32:14.280
with you on this because it's so important. This Alabama, South Carolina, they're accusing, uh, this is Chris
00:32:20.440
Hayes the other day, accusing the, um, the court of moving too slow in one time, too quick in the other, that the
00:32:27.400
MAGA movement and Trump have all got this gun deck because of these right-wing MAGA judges on the Supreme Court.
00:32:32.520
Just pull the camera back for a second. Where do we actually stand? What's the situation in South Carolina?
00:32:38.360
What's the situation in Alabama, in North Carolina, in New York? Because folks, you have had Alex's back
00:32:44.680
and the team over there's back. This is all important for what's coming up in November this year, sir.
00:32:52.680
So Steve, I think if we do take a step back and thank you, thank the posse, because it's, I mean,
00:32:57.240
Politico has the headline. I sent it over to Cameron. I don't know if he's able to put it up,
00:33:00.760
but if you look, boom, right there. This is it. This is what we've been speaking about on War Room.
00:33:06.040
This was the goal. I mean, we didn't seek to necessarily redraw these maps across the board.
00:33:11.480
It was the Democrats that played this game. They went to the media. They went to, I mean,
00:33:15.880
they had every mainstream outlet talking about a three to four seat pickup just in New York alone,
00:33:20.920
down south, another three or four seats. We were talking about flipping the majority
00:33:25.560
right there, Steve. I mean, you and I, you know, months and months back, of course. And now,
00:33:29.800
as the dust has settled, it's actually a net one Republican pickup, which the first time I think
00:33:35.000
that was discussed was actually at the force multiplier event when we were going through
00:33:39.000
those numbers and we had some breaking data and projections.
00:33:43.560
Hang on. I want to make sure the audience understands the impact of this and the lefties
00:33:46.920
that watch this show. As we went through this and talked, we had the great fights and the great
00:33:51.400
wins and 22 to lead up to that. But we looked at the map in, in, uh, we looked at the map in, um,
00:33:57.640
New York and also looked at the voting rights issues that they were going to come at us
00:34:01.880
in the South. And it was looking like a six to eight seat pickup. And that's what the,
00:34:06.200
they were banging the drum and all over this. And of course, Mark Elias, all these guys are all over
00:34:11.080
it. That article the other day and what they saw and sensed about as it comes down to this,
00:34:16.440
it's not going to be a six to eight seat pickup by the Democrats. It could be a net one,
00:34:20.840
net one increase to the Republicans. Is that where we stand on the 1st of April of 2024?
00:34:27.240
Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is a one. It's a plus one pickup. We don't necessarily see any opportunities
00:34:33.400
for any further changes as we draw into the military ballots going into the federal primaries
00:34:38.840
and whatnot. So we feel this is locked in. That's why with South Carolina, where they're melting down,
00:34:44.680
you know, they, they had one lower court rule that had to be looked at. Then that same court said,
00:34:50.040
let's do the election. Cause this is sort of getting drawn out. So they play a big game,
00:34:54.600
but the reality is New York was really the key Steve, because they talked about how it was sort
00:34:59.480
of Democrats are being timid, but it was really Republicans, Elise and some others that were on
00:35:04.840
very hard offense on the counter offensive in 2022. We went to court, we won. They were very
00:35:10.280
nervous about another lawsuit. And so for them, they mostly folded, uh, due to the pressure and
00:35:15.560
sort of the inside games, we had people actually inside the room with them. So there you go for
00:35:19.960
everyone watching. And we were able to play them off each other and got this map through,
00:35:24.120
which in New York, we can hold every seat and pick up one, we believe, um, actually pick up two
00:35:29.800
now that we lost New York three. So everything's in play. It's very interesting, of course, across
00:35:35.240
the board, but that net one pickup due to North Carolina is critical. Of course,
00:35:42.440
again, the result, what is this? Chris, state Supreme court seat. Sorry. Yeah.
00:35:47.400
I, this is what I'm saying. State Supreme court. I want to go to the, they're, they're going crazy
00:35:54.040
about state Supreme courts and about, I guess our own US Supreme court too, or the federal,
00:35:58.600
what is happening on the legal side that looks like it more has our back or am I misinterpreting
00:36:04.360
that? Because the left MSNBC is going crazy that I guess the courts haven't really backed them up at
00:36:09.560
the end of the day, particularly people moving, uh, more quickly.
00:36:13.080
Well, they, they've tried to move. I mean, this stuff sort of came out of nowhere. I mean,
00:36:17.560
this sort of unprecedented how quick they tried to move. I think what you see here is, I mean,
00:36:22.440
these guys are tough, these Democrats, but it's a lot of grift. I mean, they, they talk a good talk,
00:36:27.000
they get out there, the media feeds it, they get their people in a, in sort of a frenzy,
00:36:31.080
the money starts pouring in, they sell this stuff to donors. And I mean, they really have no legal basis
00:36:36.120
for most of this stuff. And some of this stuff needs to be really looked at, of course. And so
00:36:41.080
it's all about the state Supreme courts. It's all about state courts sort of broadly on this front.
00:36:46.280
That's the key, especially in these battleground states and especially in the context of counting
00:36:50.680
the votes in 2024, of course. So it's all connected and it's been sort of interesting how this has
00:36:55.800
played out behind the scenes, as well as sort of out in front with the posse.
00:37:01.800
We're just right now, correct me if I'm wrong, Alex, with the Gallagher,
00:37:06.280
and it gets so complicated to follow, but we're about 217 to 213 right now, roughly.
00:37:10.840
Is that where we are? Yeah. In the house. Yeah. Yeah. We feel good. I think in November,
00:37:17.320
go ahead, go ahead. I was going to say, I think Steve, I think roll call had,
00:37:21.640
and they're sort of good on the campaign back and forth coverage. I didn't send this to Cameron,
00:37:25.480
but I'll try to, when I get a second, but they talked to, and you and I were talking about this
00:37:29.320
article, Steve, where they'd go through the map and it's really, really tight map. I mean,
00:37:32.840
it's real tight. Just due to redistricting, there's just less, quote unquote, competitive
00:37:37.640
toss-up seats. And in the competitive toss-up seats, all of the fundamentals and metrics of
00:37:43.560
which we've talked about on War Room are now being sort of explained by the mainstream media to the
00:37:49.240
rest of the country, where Republicans hold an advantage to pick up seats if we can execute and
00:37:54.840
get a handle on turning out the vote and protecting the vote, of course. And so now the mainstream media,
00:38:00.040
they're acknowledging our wins on redistricting. They're acknowledging that House of Republicans
00:38:03.720
have very strong structural advantages on this map, which is a very, very tight map,
00:38:09.720
as we also discussed at the force multiplier event as well. Tight map, 34 target seats.
00:38:16.600
So in the tight map, it looks like structurally and where we stand, is it 220 to 222? I mean,
00:38:23.000
is that where people, and I understand you've got to execute, you've got to be on this. They're
00:38:25.960
going to become, they're going to be bringing heavy artillery for this. But you've got to feel
00:38:31.160
pretty, pretty good about where we could have been versus where we are today. Am I incorrect on that?
00:38:38.600
That's right. I mean, we've got strong candidates. We're getting some of the fundraising and small
00:38:43.480
dollar fundraising where it counts, which is in candidate campaign accounts, which is the most
00:38:49.080
critical and important donation that you can make is to a candidate that you support that's sort of on
00:38:54.360
those frontline seats because the candidate dollars can be spent much more efficiently and effectively
00:38:59.880
just by law and a lot of other reasons as well. And so that's important, as well as the fact that
00:39:05.000
you've got four Democrats that are in these target seats that are quitting. We have zero Republicans
00:39:09.640
that are in kind of competitive seats. All of these retirements are in the conservative seats.
00:39:14.680
And so it's a much different dynamic than on the Democrat side. And that's not talked about. Now you've
00:39:19.560
got five Democrats actually with the New Hampshire second district with the leader of the Democrat
00:39:25.000
moderate caucus throwing in the towel. So, I mean, this stuff is really sort of big deal actually.
00:39:33.400
Was that a shocker for you up in New Hampshire? It caught me by surprise. Did it catch you by surprise?
00:39:38.360
Yeah. I mean, she's, she's tough. I mean, we, you know, that's somewhat of a little,
00:39:42.120
it's a, it's a battleground seat. That's one that Biden wins single digits.
00:39:45.560
Um, that's a target seat. She, you know, she's was well liked. I mean, you have some of these
00:39:51.080
Democrats that have built their own name ID. They've, they've run tough races and they've won.
00:39:56.680
Think about Spanberg or some of these people, Kilmeade and they're out. And, um, all of them
00:40:01.160
are really sort of a surprise to all of us because I think they're going to struggle to hold these seats.
00:40:06.200
Um, and an open seat is much, much tougher to hold, especially when you've got crazy Democrats
00:40:12.120
running in some of these primaries. I think you've got Vindman. I mean, he's a total lunatic.
00:40:16.040
He's running in that Spanberger seat and he's got massive issues across the board, which we know.
00:40:22.360
Big issues, but he's raised a lot of money. You're saying they've also come,
00:40:26.760
when we see these people like Spanberger and these people that she's going to go run for the
00:40:30.040
government. I got it. But they essentially for the audience, they essentially look, they know it
00:40:35.320
sucks to be in the minority. Uh, they look out there and they say, I seen the restructuring.
00:40:39.960
I seen the redistricting. I see the map. I don't see us pulling this off. I want out.
00:40:44.360
I'm gonna go try something else. Is that one of the things that's going with that
00:40:47.560
is flowing through here that we should focus on?
00:40:50.760
Yeah. I mean, they would rather roll the dice at sort of running for Senate and lose than
00:40:55.800
sort of lose in their house seat. Um, and so that's a big deal because they know that they
00:41:00.760
are in a tough position, Senator, government, uh, governor in the case of Spanberger, of course,
00:41:05.480
um, slotkin in Michigan Senate, of course. So they're all, and they're all not pulling well.
00:41:10.440
And so it's racist that they're running. And so that's also sort of an interesting situation. But,
00:41:14.520
um, you know, the left has a lot of internal problems. They don't get talked about as much.
00:41:20.040
You've got this sort of Michigan and Minnesota issue. I'm hearing from Democrats in New York with
00:41:25.400
Jewish support eroding rapidly, uh, due to a bunch of issues. So Biden is getting pulled in a million
00:41:31.560
directions and the house Democrats are in free fall. They were told to talk about by nomics.
00:41:36.440
Now they don't. Now the only people talking about by nomics or house Republicans, of course,
00:41:40.760
litigating the issues. And so I think Axios had a good spread on sort of how many times that name
00:41:45.960
was sort of mentioned. I was saying it of course, and you know, I'll try to figure out what to do,
00:41:51.480
what to say. And the poll numbers, I mean, they're catastrophic. You've got illegal immigration
00:41:56.680
and the border invasion being the number one unprompted issue with voters in the Gallup poll,
00:42:01.800
or in console, Paul Bloomberg, all these polls. I mean, this is mag has ascended on every single
00:42:07.400
front, Steve. Real quickly. I know you got to bounce real quickly. Mark Elias talked a lot of
00:42:13.400
smack and you know, we think he's the evil genius. How did he not, how did he end up with these terrible
00:42:19.080
results? I think a lot of it is, you know, these guys in D.C., what happens is, Steve, is they push,
00:42:27.480
they push, they push. You know, they're on the phones and they're trying to pressure these Democrats,
00:42:31.160
right? You know, you look at New York, for example. I mean, you have, I know for a fact,
00:42:35.480
because Hakeem Jeffries put out a statement publicly and opposed the sort of bipartisan map
00:42:41.400
that got put out of the commission and talked to all types of crazy stuff. We know that they were
00:42:46.200
desperately working the phones, calling and certainly threatening Democrats. And a lot of
00:42:51.560
Democrats are afraid politically for their own issues. And I don't think that game is working
00:42:56.120
much longer with a lot of people. They don't really care about Central Democrat HQ and people
00:43:01.800
calling from D.C., threatening some of these guys, just like some of our people. They just want to kind
00:43:06.600
of get by and move along. They don't want some of the heat. That's why it's so important that we go on
00:43:11.880
offense on every single avenue we can on this front. We have the posse calling our people,
00:43:16.760
calling their people, putting the pressure on because they folded. I mean, that's what happened.
00:43:23.640
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stuff. As you know, the mainstream media has got it as big stories, a couple, because they got to go
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get their side of it right. Is that really happening? I want to play Carvel though. And I'm having you
00:45:35.320
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underneath the hood, people are paying attention. Let's play James Carvel again from our cold open.
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You know, I've been very vocal about this. It's horrifying. Our numbers among younger voters,
00:45:55.000
particularly black, younger blacks, younger Latinos or whatever, but whatever younger,
00:46:02.840
I don't like that. Younger people of color, particularly males. We're not shedding them. They're
00:46:09.720
leaving in the droves. Leaving in the droves. We're going to get more into this in a couple of
00:46:18.040
days. Alex, your closing thoughts on where do people go to follow everything you're doing?
00:46:23.080
Thanks, Steve. Yeah, the issue set, especially for young voters, for African-Americans, Hispanics,
00:46:27.880
of course, illegal immigration, crime, cost of living, sort of jobs here at home, manufacturing jobs,
00:46:33.480
you know, being able to pay for a family, fund a family. Those are all issues, especially to young
00:46:38.600
voters and all of those minority groups. And so they're plummeting because the Democrats are a
00:46:42.920
disaster. We got more to talk about on that. You look at some of these dark money redistricting
00:46:48.600
groups. News articles are coming out that they're panicking because they're by accidentally registering
00:46:53.960
MAGA and Republicans, these groups that are not allowed to be partisan. But we'll talk more about
00:46:58.120
that later this week. But you can see me on Truth. I'm at DeGrass, at DeGrass81 on Twitter.
00:47:07.240
DeGrass, it's amazing. We're going to have you back on the next couple of days to go through all
00:47:09.960
the rest of it. But hey, we're hammering on the house. Just we wish that when they got in there,
00:47:14.280
they were better. But that's a topic for a different day. Alex DeGrass, your warrior.
00:47:19.000
Crom Carmichael, we're making a lot of demands of MAGA, you know, going door to door,
00:47:23.400
knocking on doors, all this, go to the ramparts. You need the heart of a lion to do it,
00:47:28.040
because these are lion hearts. How do they get better hearts, sir?
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Steve, you are correct. And thanks for having me on. And I'm holding up a bottle of Soul Tea.
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And I take zero prescription drugs. I'm 75 years old. And I think a lot of the reasons for my good
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Where do they go? Once again, where do they go right now? Where do they go? To immerse themselves
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offer for the posse. And thanks so much, Steve. I appreciate it.
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Thanks. Thank you so much, brother. I'm here to make a special announcement tomorrow in Green Bay,
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Wisconsin. Our own Jane Zirkel will join David Zier. And Jane Zirkel is going to do an interview with Mike
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Lindell. You know why Mike Lindell is going to be in Green Bay, Wisconsin? He's not selling pillows.
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He's selling freedom. He's there at the rally tomorrow with President Trump. Mike, you're going
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to speak tomorrow, sir? Yes, I am. Yep. I'll be speaking. I think about 3.30 central time,
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somewhere after that. The pre-speakers started around 3.30. But I'm going to be there all day,
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Steve. I go into the crowd. I want to tell the people what we're all doing in Wisconsin. And
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remember, we're still trying to recall Robin Voss. That's the RacineRecall.org.
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This is our second attempt now after they threw out a bunch of stuff. That's just one side note
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there in Wisconsin. Wisconsin is huge. It's so important to this upcoming election.
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And we have more... Hang on. Ho, ho, ho. We have to win Wisconsin. I'll be blunt. You got to win
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Arizona. You got to win Wisconsin. You win Wisconsin, Trump's the president.
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Absolutely. And I have so many great people on the ground here.
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You're going to speak at 3.30. Jane Zerker's going to be there. She's up there tonight. She's
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going to interview you, probably get you in the morning show, talk about this rally is so important
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in Wisconsin tomorrow. We must win Wisconsin. Let me be blunt about it. Mike, talk to me about
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deals. We're going to talk about the election tomorrow and the Robin Voss recall. Tell me,
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people want to know about deals, sir. They're deal oriented. Where are the deals?
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Well, everybody, you make it possible that I can get to these rallies and speak. The biggest deal
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is going to interview Mike Lindell. Mike Lindell is going to fire a breathing speech. Brother,
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thank you so much. Breaking news. Biden's trying to walk back the transgenderism ideology post he
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