Episode 3506： The Lefts Expunging Of Whiteness Out Of The Evangelical Movement
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Trump celebrates Good Friday with an all-caps Easter message calling himself the chosen one of God s chosen among the world s chosen ones, and declaring that he's the Messiah who will save the world. But what does that really mean, and why does it matter?
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to remember the holiday by evening time with an all-capped Easter message screaming accusations
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of election interference, attacking Special Counsel Jack Smith, Fulton County DA Fonnie
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Willis, and Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg. He did manage to get in a happy Easter before going
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off the rails, but it is fitting that Trump would make the Easter holiday all about him.
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He has perverted his own persecution complex, overwhelmed everything, into a full-blown
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Messiah narrative, where he himself is Jesus. One post linked to a Washington Examiner op-ed
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titled, The Crucifixion of Donald Trump. Another was a link to the right-wing conspiracy site
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Gateway Pundit that proclaimed him the chosen one, sent and blessed by God. Now, we all know that
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Donald Trump has probably never so much as cracked a Bible to know anything about the real Jesus,
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whose Sermon on the Mount advocated tenets like turning the other cheek and loving one's enemies.
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Because Trump is the kind of Messiah who gets his followers to violate the first commandment about
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having no other gods before God, and who fantasizes on social media posts about kidnapping and
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hog-tying the real president in the flatbed of a pickup truck decorated with idolatrous MAGA flags.
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Or at least that's the message he endorsed on Good Friday, when he shared a video with that image,
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amplifying the violent imagery and rhetoric he's normalized and passed on to his most ardent MAGA fans.
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As the New York Times noted, photos of trucks featuring similar images of Mr. Biden tied up
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have been shared across social media, and online vendors sell vehicle stickers with the image,
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probably to people who call themselves Christians.
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On Sunday, the pastor talked about the question, what must I do to make it to the kingdom of heaven?
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And Jesus said, you must, of course, love God, and you must love your neighbor as yourself.
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He picked the person that nobody he was talking to would want to stop by.
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Just like when people ask Jesus, why do you hang out with the dregs of society?
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He said, I didn't come here to, like, heal the healthy.
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So all of this other talk, all of this other, like, the others is the antithesis of everything Jesus talked about
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They, you know, this is Manson stuff, where you stop saying, worship God, and you start saying, I am God.
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I am God, is what Trump is saying to his followers.
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Yeah, Joy, in a lighthearted way, you'd simply say Donald Trump is jealous of Jesus, all the attention given to Jesus Christ by the Christians of the world yesterday.
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But, look, this conversation is going pretty deep.
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And I think you put your thumb on something in this conversation very important.
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And Donald Trump is praying, with an EY, on the fallibility of faith, right?
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The whole notion of faith, of Christian faith, Muslim faith, whatever it might be, is that you are putting your trust in something you cannot see.
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And what Donald Trump is doing is saying, wait a minute, let me show you all these reasons you should doubt your faith,
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and you should trust me, and you should follow me, that is dangerous.
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I mean, take the trans proclamation, for instance.
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It is a weakening of faith to suggest that the Christian world should be concerned about that.
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People of weak faith are concerned about the actions of government.
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People of strong faith yesterday know that they have put their faith in a deity that they have entrusted their lives and the future of the world to.
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Regardless of one's faith, it's a concept that is easily understood.
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This idea of faith, and Donald Trump seizes on the fallibility and creates doubt and then suggests he's the one.
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He alone can fix all the problems you face when it requires an abandonment of the deity that you have previously put your trust in for those fixes.
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I think every movement has to figure out who they can persuade and who they must defeat at the ballot box.
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So I think there are persuadable people out there.
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I'm going to go and meet them all over the country.
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You're trying a book tour into a town meeting tour on faith and democracy.
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And I'm going to talk to lots of people, and I want to bring them back to the story.
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Jesus says, why do you call me Lord, Lord, and not do the things I tell you?
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And I want to have a debate on faith, because I think faith could be a factor now in these weeks and months ahead.
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And the fact that it's Easter makes it even more significant.
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But I had to find Jesus outside of my white church, white neighborhood, white school.
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And in the phrase white evangelical, the defining word there is not evangelical.
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But also, we can help people find the language.
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And I believe in a God who increases the value of our two cents.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Tuesday, 2nd of April, Year of Our Lord, 2024.
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This is going to be very hard for me to get there because I'm going to be laughing.
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The people that are worried about the church and about the Christian faith over at MSNBC, deeply, deeply worried about this.
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It's all about Christian nationalism and for a reason.
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People of strong Christian faith don't need to get involved in politics.
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People of weak faith, it's the weak faith people that get involved.
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They are so, the fear, you can smell the fear now.
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I also want to say, I just want to make an observation.
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On our favorite morning show, Morning Mika has now shifted to, it's Amy Semple Brzezinski and Billy Sunday Scarborough.
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Folks ought to, if you have not seen it, one of my favorite films, and I think one of the greatest films ever made, Elmer Gantry.
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Burt Lancaster as a Billy Sunday type character, Elmer Gantry.
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And Gene Simmons, and I think in the greatest female role that was not nominated for Best Actress,
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she plays Sister Susan Falconer in a stunning performance.
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And if you have not seen that film, you ought to see it, because it's got a deeply religious undertone.
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Although, on the surface, it's all about how bad the evangelical Christians are,
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and what a rip-off the movement to have people going around in tents and giving revivals.
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The revivalist movement of the early 19th century, I think it was off of Sinclair Lewis' novel,
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of which he always saw the surface of things and kind of ripped them apart, but it's very deeply religious.
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And those characters were based upon Billy Sunday.
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The Elmer Gantry character is based upon Billy Sunday.
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And the Sister Susan Falconer in this, like I said, stunning performance is based upon Amy Semple McPherson,
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who was the top female evangelist of the early 20th century.
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So you got Amy Semple Brzezinski, because she's gone all in, and you got Billy Sunday Scarborough.
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Do you think, do you think it's by, there, remember, there's no conspiracies, but there's no coincidences.
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In seeing how demonic their side is, and how purely satanic their side is,
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and the evil ones with those, those, like a serpent with the tongues,
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they are absolutely stunned now, and they can't pull their coalition together.
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And one of the reasons they can't pull their coalition together, and if you look at the crosstabs,
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they're getting slaughtered, is because African-American and Hispanics are saying,
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nah, we're not, the economics, you're crushing us on the economics,
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you're crushing us on the ability to actually make a better life for ourselves,
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you're trying to replace us with this invasion of these illegal alien invaders.
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But as importantly, they believe in traditional values, and they understand because they are true believers
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in not just go to church and support their faiths, they also try and attempt to raise their family with those values.
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And they understand in this new Marxism, the cultural revolution, the Mao cultural revolution,
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that Jack Posobiec, it goes through so brilliantly in the book Unhuman.
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And when that comes out, you ought to try to pre-order it, because Jack goes through all of this.
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I mean, how many people over the last couple of years have we had here, you know,
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from the Moms for Liberty, the Moms for America, all the groups at the PTAs, you saw it.
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Don't take it from me. You saw it. You saw the books they're trying to put in there.
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You're seeing the propaganda they're trying to do. You see the grooming people see that.
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That's where the African-American community, Hispanic community are not.
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And now it's all, oh, Jesus, Trump holds himself up to Jesus. Trump doesn't do that.
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Trump never does that. That's not Trump. Now, Trump is an instrument of divine providence.
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I was there. I was a witness to it. I saw it in 16. I saw it in 16. I saw it throughout the White House.
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He's an instrument of divine providence, and that's what they hate.
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They hate that, so they're going after him to tear him down, to destroy him,
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because they understand they have to destroy him.
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They have to destroy him because they're trying to put fear in everybody else.
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Billy Sunday Scarborough, check that quote out, fear not, right?
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We're not afraid. In fact, we're getting more empowered.
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And people are now more and more comfortable saying, yes, I am a believer.
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I'm a traditional Catholic or I'm an evangelical Christian, and I understand that I have to use my agency,
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and I have to use my faith to inform not just what is out there in the material world,
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but also to take an active role in it, because if you don't, the whole thing's going to be destroyed.
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This is why I say divine providence had its hand in the 2016 election, but also in 2020, the big steal.
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God himself had a role in this because we would have never seen people said, well, it's just Republicans, Democrats.
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It is a Marxist, a neo-Marxist, atheistic revolution on the other side.
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Don't take it from me. Look at Sunday, and now Biden's trying to run.
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I didn't know it. Biden says, I didn't know I put out a proclamation.
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I didn't say anything about Transgender Visibility Day.
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Yet the admiral, the dude, the guy that's dressed like a, you know, with the bad hairdo,
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the one that wears the, who is he, the Surgeon General?
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He's something. He runs around with a Navy uniform on.
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He's saying, no, it was great. It was fantastic. It was a big success.
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Yeah, it was such a success, you're running away from it.
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No. This is now, the Christian nationalism, what it's, in Sojourner, the guy there, Wallace,
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the false white gospel, the false white gospel, all gets back to your whiteness.
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Remember, it all gets back, the railhead of all the evil that you embody is your whiteness.
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Because I told you, the Christians are going to be called Christian nationalists,
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and you're going to, then they're going to say, no, you're actually white supremacists.
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But this is, the reason they're talking, and it's just talk.
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It has no meaning to it because they don't believe it.
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Everything they put up there, all the barbarity that they believe in,
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all the freaks and perverts they put up all the time, all of it.
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This is just, this is just another, this is just another element,
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another error in the quiver for them politically.
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And the reason they're pulling all the crossbows out
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and hitting us all at one time is they're, they're panicked.
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MAGA, in fact, after being debanked and deplatformed and all of it,
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Because in those dark days of 2021, people really went back and said,
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And when I dig deep on this, I dig down to my, the bedrock of my faith,
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whether it's evangelical Christianity or traditional Catholicism,
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And upon that foundation, upon that rock, you rebuilt this movement.
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Donald Trump as a religious figure, Michael Bender.
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I found your article today so interesting because I've been to like a hundred more Donald Trump rallies.
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And they have a certain religious fervor to them.
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Yeah, it's these like last 10 or 15 minutes of his rally.
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I mean, these rallies have long been known as for being raucous and volatile and off script.
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It's a very big tone shift in these last few minutes for his finale.
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It's very reverent, soft, reflective music plays throughout the arena.
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And he kind of recites this fairly tightly scripted, especially for former President Trump, a kind of political creed for his MAGA nation.
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It reminded me a little bit of the Nicene Creed we used to say in church.
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But I've had other people describe this to me as, no, no, this is an altar call at the end of a lot of Christian services, this kind of ambient music plays.
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And people come down and proclaim their faith in their Lord and Savior.
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And Trump has really, you know, this is how he's positioned himself in this third campaign.
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He is the, you know, again, he is very careful not to call himself a Jesus figure, but he very much presents himself as the one true Republican leader.
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And we've seen this at multiple levels of the party.
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Him replacing supporters at the Republican National Committee with people who are even more loyal to him.
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Arm twisting in Congress to get people to back off endorsements or to back off legislation that might be harmful to his campaign.
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And among the rank and file level, this is how he does it.
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He's turned his rallies into a sort of aesthetic church-like experience and supporters eat it up.
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I mean, they are, at the end of the rally, you'll see people kind of bow their heads, hold their, you know, hold their arms close to their chest and almost like they're praying along with them.
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Because it's a spiritual war and they understand that.
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The working class in this country, the middle class in this country understand exactly what this is about.
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It's going to manifest itself in many different ways.
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It's going to manifest itself in the physical world.
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And you're using your agency in the physical world.
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The common sense and, quite frankly, the knowledge and the deep spirituality of a large portion of our country.
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Particularly as you get down to the bedrock of society, the foundational element of our civic society.
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That's all imbued with a deep spiritual understanding of what this country is, of what the new Jerusalem is.
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The importance of bequeathing it as a constitutional republic down to our progeny.
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And what we owe of everyone of all those generations, of what, 12 and 13, 14 generations, that it bequeathed to us.
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The reason they're nervous is Ralph Reed, remember Ralph Reed said, we're raising, we're putting in $60 million and we're going to finally get to those 30 million evangelical Christians and traditional Catholics that are just out of the system.
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They're not low information voters, low provincial voters, they've kind of punched out.
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They've kind of punched out and they're living their lives and they're living their lives along the value set that they believe in.
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And they haven't, they may have been awakened, but they haven't been to the part that they think they have to participate in this.
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I would rather spend our time and money there than chasing and all these people coming.
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You've got to modify your message because you've got to chase college educated white women, college educated suburban women, college age women of color.
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I mean, college graduate, not age, college graduate women, all the Karens, the women of color.
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You're just, you're going to pick up a few, but it's just a waste of time and money.
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I said this years ago when Oprah Winfrey first started talking about this, it started with the Me Too movement, but went to the, which I thought in Hollywood needed to happen.
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And obviously a lot of people, I didn't think as many as I thought were going to be, were all added by the oppression that they put on women in the industry.
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But it started with the Me Too movement, even in corporate America, Me Too movement.
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The Time's Up, as I said at the time, it's time up on the patriarchy.
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All the consultants, they try to modify Trump's message.
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Oh, no, you've got to modify it here on the Social Conservative.
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You've got to do that because you've got to get the suburban women.
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The ones that are gettable are out there that can listen to the message of MAGA and the message of President Trump.
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But some of that message they're just not going to relate to, and they're not going to vote for you.
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Yet, you have a very deep, deep well of support out there that are people just not part of the process.
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And if President Trump's movement means anything, it's that, hey, you have a role in this process, not a small role, a huge role.
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It's you that, it's upon your shoulders that you lift him up and said, hey, we understand.
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It wasn't the wealthy, that gathering next week or this week with the billionaires, they all dumped him.
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We played the cut last night, I think, on the show.
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They went on to, you know, Nelson Peltz and all that crowd.
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It was at that first CPAC that he saw my people.
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You've been there, and you've been in the breach.
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The vast majority of you have deep religious and spiritual yearnings and practices, and you understand that it's inextricably linked with how you're in the world but not of it.
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But being in the world, you understand that there's some grimy stuff that has to happen.
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Your lived Christianity, I think, shows you that.
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And that's why there's tons of your compatriots out there, tens of millions, tens of millions who are aligned with us.
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These people, remember, when you're dealing with satanic and demonic forces, they're plenty smart.
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Everybody comes in and says, I can't stand these people.
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They're not good people, but they're very cunning and very smart.
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I said this for months and months and months over the last year.
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They're going to eventually get down to Christians and Christian nationalism.
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Because they understand it's an unstoppable force, that the Christian movement in the Judeo-Christian West,
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and we're not saying everybody in the country has got to be Christian.
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I'm a big believer in that people got to come to their own individual destinies themselves.
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And if you work it through with another faith, then, hey, that's your judgment.
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We live in a country, a constitutional republic of free men and free women.
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And you've got to make that individual decision.
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But this country is the power of the working class, the power of the little guy, the common man.
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What President Trump says is the forgotten man and woman.
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Everything in this country that's ever gone right is when the forgotten man and woman finally said,
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Remember, all this happy talk about unity and you've got to bring the country together.
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The country's been people like Ronald Reagan and and and President Lincoln and even General Washington were very divisive figures when they were alive.
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Remember, General Washington, they were trying to cashier him three quarters of the time he was head of the Continental Army.
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But Washington and Lincoln and Reagan were quite divisive when they were in office.
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Of course, all the media now says, oh, they're trying to paint this glowing around Reagan.
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I had a ringside seat for that one, too, at the Pentagon as a junior officer.
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I saw the hate and vitriol when he said, hey, how about we win, they lose?
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And Jamie Raskin's dad and all these people that all want to get Putin, take their money and and steal their money and crush the Russian people, do all this.
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They were all supporting the Soviet Union at the time.
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Let's have Raskin's dad being one of the worst, a flat out, a flat out Marxist communist.
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Notice all those guys that fought Reagan the most, all of them now.
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All of them that supported the Soviet Union, the Bolsheviks.
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Maybe it was because the Bolsheviks and the Soviets were atheists.
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They don't care a whit about our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
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And the embarrassment of seeing me seeing Amy Semple Brzezinski and Billy Sunday Scarborough preaching to you.
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The whiteness is the island and bringing on some guy, the false white gospel.
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Once again, you're going to get drilled with this.
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It's not simply I told you, it's not simply Christian nationalism.
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It's white superiority, white dominance, Christian nationalism.
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And don't think that they're trying to take the and proclaim the gospel of the living Lord or Jesus Christ upon the earth,
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because they would be quite happy if their mission succeeded, that no Christians came to the pole.
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What kind of country do you think you'd have then?
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You'd have what happened last week in New York City and Washington, D.C.
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That's what kind of country you'd have, a country of anarchy and chaos, demonic spirits,
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and an absolute disgrace to the revolutionary generation and the great people upon whose shoulders,
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Distrust in so-called authorities is spreading like a bad cold.
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A lot of people, at least with the way you put it, it's almost like you, I didn't tell
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you I was going to ask this, it's almost like you knew.
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Here's the quote, recent to the New York Times.
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A suspicion of mine, James Carville quote, is there's too many, quote, preachy females.
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The message you went on to say is, quote, too feminine.
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AOC, among others, have pushed back, basically saying that you're not helping, that you're
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wrong to say preachy females, that you're sort of trafficking in something.
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And she said, if you want to spend your time like this, maybe you should just start a podcast
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and join what is, you know, potentially the other uninformed bro-style podcast.
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Are you doing addition when you put it that way?
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I said, obviously it was premeditated on what I was saying.
00:30:26.340
On what I was saying, Maureen got it exactly right.
00:30:29.560
By the way, how many times do you watch a panel on this network?
00:30:34.420
The key vote here is going to be the women's vote.
00:30:39.100
When have I ever heard someone say, you know, the male vote's going to be pretty important
00:30:43.720
We've got to, you know, that's 48% of the electorate.
00:30:47.280
And again, I'm a believer in addition and multiplication.
00:30:52.600
And I did not, not Biden, but I think some Democratic vapors are far too metropolitan and far too
00:31:02.900
I understand that, but you didn't just say, let's open up and be balanced.
00:31:08.040
It comes across, if you listen to MSNBC or you listen to NPR, I'm sorry, that is what
00:31:17.440
And there is this whole thing about you, you see that in focus groups, particularly with
00:31:26.820
You know, I work eight hours a day, you know, at the tire store and I want to drink beer and
00:31:34.780
You're saying this is alienating as a brand because you all support women's rights.
00:31:38.980
I went to Kansas and I think I was the only national Democrat to go to Kansas and campaign
00:31:46.580
But what I'm trying to say is that you've got to, the way that this comes across is
00:31:56.040
it's, you know, we use these words, but it's a disaster and some men were in it, but a lot
00:32:01.140
of, you know, this Latinx foolishness, this defund the police foolishness, which was really
00:32:10.780
And, you know, sometimes I, it's going to surprise you.
00:32:14.700
Sometimes I go out on a limb and say provocative things, but what I was trying to do is bring
00:32:24.960
It's, it's, it's horrifying our numbers among younger voters, particularly black, younger
00:32:35.360
blacks, younger Latinos or whatever, but whatever younger, I don't like that.
00:32:52.760
So James Carville gives them a, a, a, a, basically a metaphorical shotgun blast, too
00:32:58.680
feminine, too many, and his words, not mine, too many preachy females, too many preachy females.
00:33:05.820
Mike, take your number two pencil out there, Amy Semple Brzezinski, and just write that
00:33:14.600
Ben, your, your thoughts about all of this, sir.
00:33:18.840
Well, look, Carville, I think, was the chief strategist for Bill Clinton back in 92, when
00:33:25.340
the Democrats, back in the days when the Democrats actually legitimately won elections.
00:33:29.940
And you can hear in his analysis there, I think, Ari Melba, who's not a, he's not a schmuck.
00:33:34.840
We have a lot of schmuck commentators on the left.
00:33:39.020
But if I were him in that situation, I would have just stopped talking totally and listened
00:33:43.760
to everything that, that, uh, James Carville was saying, because he was absolutely right.
00:33:49.520
Um, and I think his analysis is pretty much exactly the same as the analysis that you would
00:33:54.460
hear on, on the war room about the, the, the, the fact that the, that the Democrats, I mean,
00:33:59.960
he's choosing his words, obviously, because he's a Democrat strategist.
00:34:03.860
Um, but the Democratic Party has been taken over by this woke movement and it, it has
00:34:11.600
ignored the vast majority of where ordinary America is, where ordinary Americans are.
00:34:21.000
So what has come in now is, is, is this Trump movement and people like Carville are looking
00:34:28.480
And they're realizing that the Democrats have a problem, especially with, um, with Joe Biden
00:34:37.340
And you can, you can hear sort of the strains of panic in his voice, but people aren't listening
00:34:44.680
They are so morally convinced of their right righteousness on their rightness on this issue.
00:34:55.060
Um, so, you know, I'm not going to give advice to the Democrat, Democratic Party, but it's
00:35:00.380
there, the truth and the reality of what's going to happen in November, um, is there for
00:35:05.820
Um, and those with a brain on the Democrat side, they can see this and they're trying,
00:35:10.360
they're trying to ring that 3am fire alarm, but you can see Steve that that few people are
00:35:16.220
What about the, now the outright assault on traditional Catholics and, uh, and evangelical
00:35:23.660
Christians, you know, when you had father James Martin or where they got all these, uh,
00:35:27.720
these not liberals, but these radical progressives, either in the evangelical course, like, like
00:35:32.020
this guy Wallace from Sojourners, he's another lefty.
00:35:35.440
Uh, you know, your, your problem, uh, that stands between you and a real acceptance of
00:35:44.520
Uh, you're having all the tax on the traditional Catholics.
00:35:51.140
Are they trying to assist our brothers and sisters here?
00:35:54.060
Are they, they fear this rising movement, uh, that, uh, that understands the importance of
00:36:00.400
the Christian message, uh, in a political aspect, in a, in a political reality?
00:36:04.800
Because it's, it manifests itself in the, in the material world.
00:36:09.540
Well, look, um, we call these people, uh, sociopathic overlords, um, constantly.
00:36:15.440
One of the symptoms of being a sociopath or even a psychopath, one of the symptoms of that
00:36:21.540
mental condition, and that's not like just an acute phraseology that we bring out on the
00:36:26.120
womb that represents a real, uh, a reality here.
00:36:29.680
One of the consequences of that condition is you have zero, um, self-awareness.
00:36:34.220
So you have an inability to read a room, um, and you're just sort of obviously obsessed
00:36:41.240
And that is the condition of these sort of democratic talking headsets.
00:36:45.960
And again, you draw, um, you have to draw a distinction between that and, and, uh, the
00:36:51.120
Clinton-Carville strategy back in 92, which was to expand your penetration as far as you
00:36:57.720
can, to widen your appeal as far as you can, so that you can win the White House from, um,
00:37:08.020
It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, not a doubling, that's a tripling down right
00:37:14.580
Because as I say, these people can't read a room.
00:37:20.020
They think, they thought, right, they thought that the country was going to be with them
00:37:25.520
when they, uh, when they did a bait and switch from Easter Sunday, being the day where Christians
00:37:32.580
celebrate the, the resurrection of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
00:37:36.960
They did a, they did a pivot from that to International Trans Day.
00:37:41.560
And these people, as I say, they're sociopaths.
00:37:44.160
They thought that the whole of the country would be there cheering them on, uh, their
00:37:50.800
People have switched off on these people because they, they realize that they're not
00:37:58.440
Um, so you have this contrast between the Carville-Clinton-Wyden appeal and then the,
00:38:04.600
the present approach, which is just let's, let's double down as far as we can into the
00:38:12.660
And of course, the consequence of that is, um, and you know, obviously they are winning
00:38:17.060
scared as you, as you were intimating that is, is this illustrates the, how the fact that
00:38:23.100
Donald Trump now is driving the agenda with regards to the Christian, the Christian element
00:38:29.240
and the national nationalist element and bringing the two together as a unified concept.
00:38:34.400
How do you know that Donald Trump is driving this agenda?
00:38:37.520
Because they're quoting the gospel on MSNBC, Steve.
00:38:41.080
Now, 10 years ago, this would have been literally unthinkable.
00:38:43.700
This would be like sort of flicking sort of holy water on, uh, on the diabolically possessed.
00:38:49.120
And yet, and yet there they are, they are quoting the gospel.
00:38:53.400
Because they realized that, that they've so vacated the center ground that they have to
00:38:58.040
come and try and win it back in one degree or another.
00:39:01.100
But of course, what they, what they don't realize is that after decades of this hijacking
00:39:06.480
of, of the Christian message by the sort of globalist, woke, progressive ideology, actual
00:39:12.580
believing Christians have switched off and they're not listening anymore to the, to all
00:39:17.060
of the corrupted and controlled Christian leaders.
00:39:20.520
That's why they see in Donald Trump who like, you know, we're all sinners.
00:39:25.540
Um, but that's why they see in Donald Trump person who's not perfect, but they know he's
00:39:33.820
He will not bow to these people and give them the moral credence they so crave, which is
00:39:39.980
why they are reduced to trying to, to, to try to claw back some of the Christian agenda
00:39:45.220
by, by saying, here we are, you know, we're not antithetical towards the gospel.
00:39:49.460
We'll quote it on MSNBC, but be aware, they say that Donald Trump and his Christian nationalism
00:39:55.420
is really a subversive movement for white nationalism.
00:40:00.100
Of course it won't work, Steve, because I say people have switched off from listening
00:40:08.460
This is why Ben's, uh, our international editor, uh, you may, you bring up a brilliant
00:40:13.220
point, uh, during the reign of Obama, if MSNBC in the entire day had quoted anything from
00:40:21.520
the new Testament, the person would have been immediately fired.
00:40:24.740
This shows you in Trump, look, Trump, Trump's never, Trump is not a churchy guy.
00:40:39.000
And that's why you're seeing, you are seeing at the rallies.
00:40:41.660
And it's not just the last 15 minutes, which they've kind of programmed on certain of the
00:40:45.800
And there's two today in Michigan and in, uh, Wisconsin and a real America's voice in
00:40:51.580
Jane Zirkel's actually with David Zier and the crew there in actually in Wisconsin.
00:40:56.760
I think there's also the, the Michigan, uh, rally.
00:40:59.980
Um, the, um, the, the, the, the Trump people understand cause they've seen the last couple
00:41:06.260
of years, the lived experience of the outright assault on decency, the outright assault
00:41:11.600
on the family, the outright assault on their faith, the outright assault on this country
00:41:15.620
of trying to tear down the very core traditional values that made this country.
00:41:20.300
What it is, the people see that that's where they're getting very spiritual.
00:41:23.320
And that's why at these rallies, you're seeing a real spiritual component of this, because
00:41:27.040
at the end of the day, this is a spiritual war.
00:41:32.900
And they realize now that it's adding up to votes.
00:41:36.820
The probability they would have quoted the gospels in the reign of Obama is zero, but
00:41:43.020
now they're desperate and they, they got a, they got a counter program here, Ben, hang
00:41:49.040
We've got a lot more to go through, but that was, uh, any closing thoughts on that as we
00:41:52.520
go to break a Ben Hart, we've got about a minute.
00:41:56.260
Um, I just want to say the fact that they are reacting to Donald Trump now shows, uh, not
00:42:02.480
just a panic that is setting in Steve, but the fact that the Democrats now are really
00:42:07.940
thinking like an opposition and not like a governing party.
00:42:13.780
It's because they have no merits of their administration of, of, of the white house for
00:42:19.060
the, for the last four years to be able to present to the country as they seek a second
00:42:24.860
It shows that absolute loss of control that Donald Trump has come in and taken.
00:42:31.820
This, this is once again, why, why Ben is also a brilliant political strategist.
00:42:38.140
He has just nailed something that's very important.
00:42:40.420
The quiet part, everything you're seeing from these people right now is like a party in
00:42:52.880
We got to look, they're going to try to steal it at April 15th.
00:42:55.900
The biggest, uh, trial in human history is going to start where they're going to try to
00:42:59.020
destroy Trump and they're going to try to steal this thing as sure as the turning of the
00:43:02.600
earth, but they understand we're driving the agenda.
00:43:10.020
They're already positioning themselves and in a thought, in a mode of thought, like an
00:43:16.900
Ben's on the other side, uh, Birch gold, the times are turbulent.
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When I arrived here and I saw your gracious countryside,
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I just won't be cooped up with a lot of stardy old ministers discussing hell and damnation.
00:46:03.700
So I sneaked out, and I've been doing what most of you have been doing, farming.
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Milking the cows, lying in the clover, and letting the joy of God's nature flow into my heart.
00:46:24.280
There's a happy, joyful God, a bountiful God, a generous God.
00:46:38.960
And pass it along to those dear newspaper reporters so they can wash out the taste of whiskey.
00:46:55.880
We're going to sing together, laugh together, rejoice together like carefree children of a happy God.
00:47:02.220
We're going to rejoice that inside of us lives the veritable spirit of the everlasting, redeeming Christ Jesus.
00:47:09.660
Bill, see how many of those dear people can match a bountiful gift with their own offerings.
00:47:23.600
You darlings can't make milk, and God just won't make money.
00:47:40.480
No teaching tonight, no sermonizing, no sad faces or tears.
00:47:48.420
Tomorrow, tomorrow is the last night of our revival here.
00:47:52.780
But when I leave, you're going to carry on my work.
00:48:13.180
It's happiness just to hear your wondrous message.
00:48:21.140
That is from, I think it's 1960, I think it's 1960, 61, that is the movie Elmer Gantry.
00:48:27.560
Right there, Sister Susan Falconer, an absolutely stunning role I strongly recommend.
00:48:35.880
It talks about the revivalist movement of the early 20th century.
00:48:39.440
Of course, Sinclair Lewis wrote the novel to be absolutely destructive.
00:48:44.560
Sinclair Lewis was the equivalent, although he was kind of a crusader for corruption,
00:48:48.880
but he's equivalent a little bit to the MSNBC crowd.
00:48:52.000
But Amy is, the character of Susan Falconer is based upon Amy Semple McPherson.
00:49:04.160
She preaches to us every day of the problem of you and your religion and your faith.
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Has nothing to do with any belief in Christianity.
00:49:17.340
It has nothing to do with any kind of promulgation of the gospel.
00:49:21.600
It has nothing to do with making the New Jerusalem even better, more faithful, more decent,
00:49:29.260
and to spread that decency throughout the world.
00:49:32.460
It has everything to do with just raw political power.
00:49:43.940
They've tried to destroy Trump in every aspect.
00:49:49.360
You've had a ringside seat on this since, if you've been watching this show since the pandemic here,
00:49:55.220
before the first impeachment, when the first impeachment, if you've been with us for the entire time,
00:50:09.900
And quite smart from their point of view, because they, I think, understood that one day,
00:50:19.380
That you're seeing a revival of the American spirit.
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I was on John Ferguson today, and talking about people in the precinct strategy is so hard.
00:50:35.720
It's hard work to fight for power in the most powerful nation in the history of the world.
00:50:45.160
Read the great Roman historians about the fall of the republic.
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And this republic is 1,000 times more powerful than the Roman Republic or the Roman Empire.
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We now have the ability, and you're going to have very shortly,
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the ability to transcend man itself and play God.
00:51:10.540
And what upsets them the most is the driver of the narrative is Donald J. Trump.
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He is the instrument, and he's relentless, and he will never bend a knee ever to them.
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It gets under their skin every second of every day that you have a voice.
00:51:37.060
You have a movement, and you have a movement that's about to drive them from the temple.
00:51:43.700
Hopefully, we won't do it as angry as Christ was when he drove them from the temple.
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