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00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:00:10.360 these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have

00:00:16.960 had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything

00:00:20.720 the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people

00:00:24.300 like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people

00:00:32.120 had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my

00:00:40.060 country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band

00:00:47.280 it's tuesday to april in the year of our lord 2024 of course there's a couple of big rallies today

00:00:55.920 we're going to we have jane zirkle we're going to try to interview mike lindell later i think for

00:01:00.120 the afternoon show that's an afternoon rally in green bay wisconsin when all the uh we're in

00:01:06.080 passing of course all the mega folks uh we're going to be having live coverage uh for part of it uh

00:01:11.720 david zier is there we're going to try to get we're going to try to get some pregame too also i think

00:01:15.760 there's one in michigan uh we'll try to get as much of that as possible as president trump takes

00:01:20.020 his message of populist nationalism on the road uh ben's going to hang with me we'll get back in a

00:01:25.480 second so if we talked about the spiritual warfare elements of this in the uh in the first hour a

00:01:30.420 little bit in the second hour we're going to talk about more of the the physical manifestations of

00:01:34.580 this and i want to say everybody you know i don't have to do rants all the time sometimes i can

00:01:38.460 actually be you know calm down and and stay on point that's i owe that to uh to um the coffee

00:01:45.420 my favorite coffee warpath coffee go to warpath.coffee slash war room to get your discount

00:01:51.160 the dark roast we get it every day big pots of it brewing early in the a.m the 5 a.m or even pre

00:01:58.380 uh when we get up and get rolling on putting the show together of at least verifying what we've done

00:02:04.420 the night before to make sure that the show kind of hangs together with what's happening

00:02:07.580 to give you signal not noise uh batia ungar sargon joined us a couple weeks ago people loved it it

00:02:14.020 was a fantastic interview she's back her book launches today second class how the elites what

00:02:19.000 the elites in america i don't know stole the future uh batia i want to talk uh the reason i think i've

00:02:25.680 got an answer for why they did it or how they did it the cnbc had an article the other day that one

00:02:32.000 percent the one percent owned 44 trillion dollars worth of assets and what's happened uh since uh the

00:02:40.080 federal reserve since pal and uh you know the treasury department started talking right after

00:02:44.060 thanksgiving early december kind of shocked everybody they start talking about rate cuts

00:02:48.900 and oh maybe we got inflation beaten and we're gonna have rate cuts the stock markets took off

00:02:53.600 and i think there's been eight somebody told me i think the calculation eight trillion dollars in

00:02:58.300 stock value and most of this wealth is tied up not just in real estate uh but a lot of it's tied up

00:03:03.800 in private and public equities uh the reason that the elites have backed politicians in the uniparty

00:03:10.840 to basically suppress the working class and even the middle class of this country it's damn profitable

00:03:17.420 this is the wealthiest that anybody's wealthier than anybody's been in the roman empire and the british

00:03:22.440 empire i mean our sociopathic overlords as ben hornwell labels them are the wealthiest people in the

00:03:29.620 history of the earth the business model seems to be working so why should they why should they change

00:03:34.720 it's working for a ma'am and and so that the little guy hasn't had to participate in that it's cut tough

00:03:39.800 break for a swell guy is it not uh bachia so first of all thank you so much for having me back mr bannon

00:03:47.700 it's such an honor and a pleasure to be here with you and with the posse um after the last time i came on

00:03:53.400 your show i came back to new york i was sitting on the airplane waiting to take off and my hit my book

00:03:58.200 became the number one bestseller on in economic theory completely because of war room posse so i'm

00:04:04.780 i'm so grateful to you and to this community that you've built i also forgot to tell you an amazing

00:04:10.200 story um last time that i met you and it is that about six months ago i was in dc for work and i got

00:04:17.500 into an uber and the uber was this you know big um african immigrant he had come here legally of course

00:04:23.640 30 years ago and he asked me what i do and i said i'm a journalist and then he said you'll never

00:04:28.460 guess the only journalistic outlet that i listen to and i immediately without batting an eyelid said

00:04:35.280 steve bannon's war room and he whipped out his phone and showed me a picture of him standing with you and

00:04:41.300 he said how did you know and i said because it's the only thing worth worth listening to you are

00:04:47.700 absolutely right mr bannon this is this is plunder of the middle class by the elites it is extremely

00:04:55.540 profitable the democrats entire economic platform is an upward transfer of wealth from the working

00:05:02.340 class to themselves to the elites in the top 20 percent the top 10 percent you know we rail a lot

00:05:08.160 against the one percent but it's actually the top 20 percent who now own more than 50 percent of the

00:05:14.400 gdp i mean how does that make sense right and what you have is this entire economist cast out there

00:05:20.640 saying oh but mass immigration is great for gdp it raises gdp in the aggregate and they somehow always

00:05:28.080 forget to tell you that all of those gains are going to them and their colleagues and the other people

00:05:34.420 with the two and the three degrees it is so disgusting they sit there and they preen from their perch

00:05:41.480 of immense economic privilege because they took an economy that worked for the little guy and turned

00:05:46.660 it into an economy in which they could plunder the little guy in the name of justice and you are

00:05:51.900 calling it out mr bannon walk me through how you the inspiration for this book and then how you put this book

00:05:59.540 together i know you had uh you had the intellectual you know architecture to do this and you're very

00:06:05.820 smart about what you look for as sources but you also have personal stories in here so walk us through

00:06:10.920 how did you initiate this book and what's the story of putting it together first of all everybody

00:06:16.680 told me not to write it they told me it couldn't be done and i ignored them all because i thought it

00:06:22.280 was important to tell this story um i had noticed that the class divide why did they why did they why

00:06:27.220 why why did they tell you it couldn't be done why they why did they actually tell you not to write

00:06:32.020 it what was it about your your working thesis or your your theory of the case that they said you

00:06:38.260 shouldn't do it or it can't be done all of the other books that try to give a kind of ethnography

00:06:44.900 of the working class who is the working class are written by um liberal academics um and so they have

00:06:52.380 teams of researchers to sort of scour the nation for the kinds of people that they're looking to

00:06:57.800 interview um and they have just immense immense resources at their disposal that was the first reason

00:07:04.260 they thought you know how can you create something that's worth reading if it's just you the problem

00:07:09.340 with all those books is that because they are interviewing people from a liberal lens they all

00:07:14.840 end up with the same prescription which is we need more welfare that's how you help the working class and

00:07:19.720 of course mr bannon as you know that is not what the working class wants they don't want to be

00:07:24.980 dependent on the government they value autonomy they want to be self-sufficient they want their immense

00:07:33.060 efforts and hard work to reward them with the most modest things that this country used to guarantee

00:07:38.880 a person who works hard for a living and no longer does because all of those gains are going to the top

00:07:44.900 10 the top 20 the over credentialed elites and so i think they just thought there's no market for this

00:07:51.220 and i i felt like saying to them but what about all of the working class people who have been erased

00:07:56.540 from the public sphere whose voices you never hear anymore i wanted to bring those voices back into the

00:08:01.900 conversation because as you know mr ben you talk about this a lot um you know americans are so much

00:08:07.560 more united than divided trump is the consensus candidate he's a total centrist he's speaking to that

00:08:13.160 70 percent of moderate americans in the middle very little distinguishes working class americans who vote

00:08:20.060 for democrats from working class americans who vote for republicans because neither party is really

00:08:23.940 speaking to their concerns which is of course why they're not polarized because how could you hold

00:08:28.380 something so meaningless against somebody else um so you know i went into this wanting to elevate their

00:08:33.980 voices wanting to give the elites in the chattering classes in the political classes a sense of what

00:08:39.720 do working class people sound like what do they think will help them because these people are so good and

00:08:45.960 so smart so how did you how did you do get that aspect of it i mean the economic analysis in this and we

00:08:53.720 strongly recommend everybody get this book so make sure you go to amazon right now uh to check it out

00:08:59.100 but but how did you get then all the stories because just the the logistics of putting it together

00:09:04.320 would seem to be pretty uh you know awe-inspiring that's so kind of you thank you um what i did was

00:09:11.720 i wanted to first get a look at the data who is the american working class so i would know what i was

00:09:16.620 looking for because i wanted people whose stories were representative of the larger trends

00:09:21.140 so uh there's this amazing professor joe price at byu brigham brigham young university and he has a

00:09:27.100 team of grad students and he hires them out to journalists like me and what they did was they

00:09:33.240 looked at the american census survey i asked them to look at 2000 and 2020 so that i could get a

00:09:39.080 perspective over time of what was happening to the working class and they gave me that data analysis of

00:09:45.060 you know the demographic breakdown uh the religious the racial breakdown the economic breakdown how much

00:09:50.940 are people making what industries are they in and that gave me a kind of roadmap for what i was

00:09:56.500 looking for so that i could interview i interviewed about 100 people and from that i called it down to

00:10:01.500 about 20 people whose stories you will read in second class and i went back to these people again and

00:10:07.060 again to say okay what would help you with this struggle what would help you with that struggle i

00:10:11.460 interviewed the experts and then i brought the expert solutions back to working class people

00:10:16.420 and said do you like this solution do you like that solution and invariably mr bannon they came

00:10:21.880 up with better solutions than all of the experts so those are the conversations throughout second

00:10:26.440 class you will meet people you understand what their struggles are like what their triumphs are like

00:10:30.640 who is the american working class and what is standing between them in the american dream

00:10:34.760 now correct me if i'm wrong you you are you're a liberal or i know you used to be a liberal you

00:10:41.560 still live in brooklyn i think how is this i mean how did you connect your personal life to now this

00:10:47.460 kind of at least awakening you've had on economic populism economic nationalism well i as an orthodox

00:10:55.560 jew i've always had a healthy skepticism i think for uh the college credentialed set because the way they

00:11:02.140 talk about my community is as dismissive as the way they talk about you know working class americans

00:11:07.380 um but i i you know we talked last time about how i had been woke i did have the trump derangement

00:11:12.780 syndrome um and then i started to shed it slowly but surely as i became more and more disgusted with

00:11:18.860 the woke mentality and you know it's so funny because as somebody coming from the left the first

00:11:26.460 time you notice donald trump saying something and you think wow that's actually really smart and

00:11:32.800 earth shattering it's accompanied by a oh no you know like because you know you're about to lose

00:11:39.060 all of your friends so there were a lot of moments like that i would say you know it took a while you

00:11:45.660 know one is in denial of course for a while and then i think you know mr bannon the impact you have had

00:11:51.620 on this country by pushing economic populism and creating a framework for working class people

00:11:57.640 to express their economic needs in a way that is dignified um it cannot be overstated and to to have

00:12:07.800 um created this um a framework for donald trump to really create economic policy whether it's tariffs

00:12:15.560 trade war immigration um you know whether it's um steel and aluminum whether it's reshoring of

00:12:22.840 manufacturing all of this stuff that means so much to the american working class and i heard this

00:12:27.560 again from working class people who are democrats and who are republicans that not much separated

00:12:33.300 them from each other i'll be honest what do do the in the stories you tell is there a general

00:12:41.940 sense that the credential class forget the one percent or the or the sociopathic overlords but the

00:12:47.440 credential class that are actually the managerial uh apparatchiks that run the system that they're not

00:12:53.760 being heard that that they're not being heard on purpose or there's just total indifference to them

00:12:58.380 uh in kind of uh industrial america and agricultural america they feel the contempt of the credentialed class

00:13:07.280 very very keenly they know that they're looked down on and they have started to return the favor

00:13:13.900 because they also know that they work so much harder than these people who dare look down on them

00:13:21.020 i mean they know that they know that they are the backbone of this country and that we have this

00:13:25.540 preeming credentialed class it's a caste really that has plundered them and destroyed their children's

00:13:32.500 futures and then from this position of immense privilege has the chutzpah to look down on them

00:13:37.440 and sneer at them they're very very keenly aware of that i would say the conservatives um who i

00:13:43.340 interviewed were um more angry about that and the liberals that i interviewed were more hopeless about it

00:13:48.560 a lot of people did not have a feeling like things could get better um but also a lot of the democrats

00:13:54.380 that i interviewed admitted to me that things had been better under under donald trump that there was

00:13:59.620 more money in their bank account at the end of the month that they didn't feel quite so strapped

00:14:04.340 and whether or not they liked trump they admitted that they felt the country was in a going in a better

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00:16:03.180 10-9-8-9-8-9-8 do it today action action action i've been very vocal about this it's it's horrifying

00:16:12.500 our numbers among younger voters i vote particularly you know black younger blacks younger latinos or

00:16:24.720 whatever but whatever younger younger people of color particularly males we're not shedding them

00:16:32.340 that they're leaving in the droves

00:16:35.360 they're leaving in droves uh younger african-american males hispanics uh people under 35 there's a another

00:16:44.820 piece i haven't had a chance to get it up but in usa today i think i mentioned it earlier

00:16:48.100 that talks about you know this wealth uh transfer generation to generation that's really kind of

00:16:52.840 propped up the system uh and i don't know the number was like 30 trillion dollars some humongous

00:16:57.760 number it may not happen and the reason is as people live longer particularly medical and they

00:17:03.140 use many examples had lots of statistics of how a lot of that wealth transfer is may not happen

00:17:08.700 because of what's going to the medical system of people that have to pay for certain uh medical

00:17:13.760 procedures as they get into their 80s and 90s which here to four you know hasn't been an issue

00:17:18.840 because you didn't live that long um the younger the under 35 year old and i continue to say this

00:17:24.500 are simply russian serfs they don't own anything and they're not going to own anything and i think

00:17:30.440 they're awakening to that as african americans so from the first hour we talked about the spiritual

00:17:34.300 warfare side of this the awakening of people spiritually to this here is the economic populism i think

00:17:41.780 people in your book what's amazing about your book is your book shows that batia second class that

00:17:48.500 people understand which america has never really been class riven right that's one of the great

00:17:54.960 things about us departing europe and and and coming here uh that uh you know and we came as irish

00:18:01.900 you know immigrants um back in the 19th century and no one had any kind you know no one was fond

00:18:08.480 uh about the emerald isle i remember as a kid later my daughter started taking irish dancing it was all

00:18:14.360 about irish culture but hey for a long time you know we've been kicked out essentially uh it's

00:18:20.040 probably deserved but uh are people awakening to this economic do you see this across the board as a

00:18:25.900 as an awakening like your people are saying we're having a spiritual awakening like america's head

00:18:31.240 many times forward do you think there's now there there's a an awakening on a class basis to

00:18:36.240 understand that this is not the way the system is supposed to work that something's uh grossly uh out of

00:18:41.680 whack here oh a hundred percent um in the book i interviewed a lot of black working class men

00:18:48.340 i don't think any of them's voting for biden so i saw that firsthand um uh and this this you know the

00:18:56.740 the barrier to that economic awakening is that um working class americans don't really think of

00:19:01.880 themselves as working class because we were all raised on this mythology that this is you know the

00:19:07.420 country where you have equal opportunity and unfortunately that's really just not the case

00:19:11.620 anymore um the the idea of the meritocracy has been co-opted by people like president obama

00:19:17.860 uh to to attempt to basically imply that if you don't get a college degree if you're not smart in a

00:19:24.280 particularly book smart way you don't deserve the american dream and people are waking up to that also i

00:19:29.500 think that there's a lot of frustration among black and hispanic americans that they've been thrown over

00:19:34.660 for illegal immigrants this is something you hear again and again and again and they are drawn to

00:19:39.880 the economic populism they can admit that things were better under donald trump so my question to

00:19:45.120 you mr bannon is when you see james carville talking about you know how they're you know they're the young

00:19:50.840 working class people of color are banding democratic party in droves do you sit there and think to

00:19:55.540 yourself i did that

00:19:57.620 no i think it's i think it's i think it's really you needed until president trump you know we kicked

00:20:06.260 around these ideas for a long time and we were putting forward this idea is one of the big

00:20:10.520 controversies quite frankly when i ran breitbart is that i'm a populist and i'm an economic nationalist

00:20:15.580 um but this is why trump and i say he's providential when president trump when a billionaire comes in

00:20:23.540 and you and he's more queens than he is manhattan and he actually speaks and he has this ability to

00:20:29.360 connect to an audience to a working class and middle class audience in a very powerful way

00:20:34.680 and all of a sudden these these policies start to come in and people see those three years of his

00:20:40.320 presidency 17 18 and 19 in 19 that that fall and christmas was the height of a tremendous economic

00:20:48.440 program that all yes it did have tax cuts and the wealthy participate in those taxes but by and large

00:20:53.460 this was blue collar workers and what i tell people is the most important thing is that the

00:20:57.860 federal reserve janet yellen was chairman she took almost a trillion dollars off the balance sheet of

00:21:02.860 the federal reserve we didn't expand the balance sheet we didn't juice the system we didn't juice

00:21:06.820 the asset base they actually shrunk the the the the asset bubble that in those headwinds trump still

00:21:13.900 had over three percent growth it's an extraordinary record and i think people respond to that i think

00:21:19.880 people of of and they've been bombarded with orange man bad and trump's evil and trump is all this and

00:21:25.720 he's anything but that i think the empirical evidence shows that i think it's the power of your book the

00:21:30.640 power of your book is not simply the analytical obviously brain power you bring to it to walk people

00:21:35.880 through exactly what the structural problems are and issues in this country but then you have imbued with

00:21:41.800 these personal stories that i think drives home the point and that's why i think it's a it's an

00:21:46.800 incredible book and i i know it's going to be a bestseller first of all the people that encounter

00:21:50.560 we had roger kimball on yesterday and he's one of those extraordinary brains in our movement and just

00:21:55.480 an extraordinary guy a real classicist uh and i know he's very proud of this book and this book's

00:22:00.260 going to get a broad reading i think you're going to be attacked viciously because you're they're going

00:22:04.800 to say oh you're you're putting out a fairy tale that shows that working class people who don't

00:22:10.620 who trump's just all for the one percent he's all for the wealthy and you know it's on the same

00:22:14.940 msnbc hit you see all the time your thoughts uh like you i answer to the god of abraham isaac and

00:22:23.740 jacob and uh they can come um i i i you know i i have to do right by my country uh i love what you

00:22:33.100 talk about you know a spiritual revival i think it's so important um we're fed this lie constantly

00:22:39.460 that we are polarized that we are divided the elites make so much money and get so much power

00:22:45.540 off of trying to make americans hate their neighbors and americans have simply said no to

00:22:51.820 that and i think that you are both a catalyst of that and a reflection of that um and i will i will

00:22:58.920 not allow the american people to be smeared like that i just can't it's i can't i have to resist that

00:23:04.980 i have to that's that's that's why i was put on this planet in this moment i think that's why god

00:23:10.160 wanted you know roger kimball to pick up my book when nobody else would nobody else would touch me and

00:23:15.420 and roger kimball said you know what this is we this is important so i feel really grateful to god and

00:23:20.640 really grateful to you and and to your posse for for for valuing this work that i've done and i'm

00:23:26.220 very excited for for them to meet the people in the book because i think they will recognize them

00:23:30.360 as their friends and neighbors when you were when you were pitching the book to publishers and when

00:23:36.680 people saw drafts of the book or today what is what is the central line of attack on your theory of the

00:23:42.140 case um so first of all when you get attacked by the egghead class you know it's uh it's a very

00:23:51.120 unique experience because i'm not an economist you know i i'm just a person looking and and and saying

00:23:58.120 you know what i'm going to trust the voice of the american people yes i'm a populist so i believe

00:24:02.360 deeply in the wisdom of of the american people but um i you know so they'll say oh you know she's

00:24:09.140 misreading this graph or you know the way eggheads attack right like oh that's not median that's average

00:24:15.700 you know this kind of thing and and uh i i i just feel so impervious to that stuff because i'm speaking

00:24:23.700 for people who don't get a voice because they get shouted down by by the the so-called expert class

00:24:29.540 and of course if trump one of his major achievements was to show how empty all of the prognostications

00:24:36.080 are i mean i'm sure you remember this mr bannon but when he slapped those 25 percent tariffs on steel

00:24:40.900 and aluminum to protect steel and aluminum jobs which pay an average of eighty eight thousand dollars a

00:24:45.440 year which is in many parts of the country a solidly middle-class wage and all of the experts said

00:24:50.620 no one will be able to afford anything except the wonderful john carney at breitbart who got it right

00:24:56.040 he always gets it right but all of the other economists and experts were saying oh steel is

00:25:00.980 going to get so expensive no one will be able to afford anything no one will be able to afford a car

00:25:04.720 blah blah blah and you know of course for a few months it did get a little more expensive and then

00:25:09.420 because of the free market and the way it works in america the prices came down so we were able to both

00:25:15.580 keep things affordable for the consumer but also protect the labor of the american working class

00:25:23.940 that is that's trump in a nutshell you know figuring that out

00:25:28.000 and of course the individual that led the charge on that sits in prison today i want everybody to

00:25:34.820 understand that peter navarre is in prison he was the main architect with president trump of that policy

00:25:40.080 with bob lighthearted but navarre drove it drove it for years and he sits in prison today because of

00:25:45.980 standing up to nancy pelosi batia where do they go to find out more about you where they go to get

00:25:50.840 the book uh where they go to find your writings um you can get the book on amazon or you can order it

00:25:56.780 from encounterbooks.com but roger tells me it's all the same to him so feel free to buy it on amazon

00:26:01.920 i'm on twitter at bunger sargon i'm on instagram at batia us a little bit easier um and

00:26:09.720 uh i i'm the opinion editor at newsweek so if you go to newsweek you'll find opinions

00:26:14.040 from op-eds from across the political spectrum we give maga a really fair hearing in fact a lot of

00:26:19.680 people say we're leaning a little too far right uh what have you you make of that what you will

00:26:24.040 and um gosh mr bannon i can't thank you enough thank you so much for opening your platform to me and

00:26:30.220 giving me access to your amazing amazing war room posse i'm so so grateful thank you

00:26:36.020 well by popular acclaim uh we're going to do something they're going to want to town hall

00:26:41.800 with you on the book so we're going to figure something out we'll do something in person to

00:26:44.760 make sure that uh our audience gets uh can actually meet you and uh share some time with

00:26:49.520 you extraordinary book extraordinary person thank you so much for coming on josh hammer

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00:29:34.880 landmark rulings on abortion access in the state in a pair of conflicting decisions yesterday the court

00:29:41.720 both upheld the state's strict abortion ban and said it would allow a proposed amendment to enshrine

00:29:48.940 abortion access to appear on the november ballot the court's ruling was for a planned parenthood lawsuit

00:29:57.060 against a 15-week abortion ban signed into law in 2022 but in allowing that ban to take effect

00:30:04.980 the conservative-leaning court has also made way for the more strict six-week abortion ban that

00:30:13.220 governor de santa signed in 2023 to move forward the court's decision on the 15-week ban yesterday means

00:30:21.460 that six-week ban on abortion will take effect in 30 days also yesterday in a narrow four to three

00:30:31.420 ruling the court agreed to allow floridians to vote on enshrining abortion access under florida law

00:30:39.340 the supreme court must approve the language of any citizen-led constitutional amendment before it

00:30:45.400 can move forward opponents of the ballot measure criticized the proposed wording of the ballot

00:30:51.240 question saying it was unclear at least 60 percent of voters will have to back the move for it to

00:30:58.700 ultimately pass kind of a mixed bag yesterday joe but in a way not a way that i would choose but uh florida

00:31:07.440 is being set up for a very important vote in november and they will have some pretty searing examples

00:31:14.700 along the way as to why perhaps a ban on abortion is a problem

00:31:19.500 okay uh kind of a bombshell i don't really understand it so i brought in matt staver who's

00:31:26.900 at the working on this the tip of the spirit liberty council is always at the forefront of these

00:31:30.740 matt you help me out here i'm gonna explain to me what actually happened because i'm totally confused

00:31:36.520 what happened in florida yes we were involved liberty council in all these cases we filed briefs both in

00:31:43.780 the 15-week abortion ban case and then i also argued in the florida abortion amendment case so there's

00:31:51.360 two decisions coming down the same day from the same court the first one is a great decision six to

00:31:56.420 one decision and that decision very much mirrors the dobbs case at the u.s supreme court a 15-week abortion

00:32:03.500 ban just like in the abortion case at the supreme court and the florida supreme court upheld that law

00:32:11.000 15-week abortion ban but in doing so they overruled a 35-year-old precedent going back to 1989 the so-called

00:32:18.700 n-ray tw decision a case that i argued against back in 1989 in a brief before the florida court there was an

00:32:26.700 activist court back then that said that the florida constitution protected the right of privacy to

00:32:33.580 the extent that it allowed abortion and since then 35 years of abortion have been in the florida supreme

00:32:40.440 court's opinions so when the u.s supreme court overruled roe in 2022 didn't have any effect on abortion in

00:32:48.080 florida florida became an abortion destination especially when the other surrounding states had

00:32:52.480 more restrictive abortion laws so on april the 1st six to one decision upholds the 15-week abortion ban

00:33:00.360 overturns the 35-year-old precedent saying there's no right to abortion in the florida constitution

00:33:06.340 and now as a result of that in 30 days or less than 30 days the six-week heartbeat abortion law will

00:33:14.220 also go into effect so in one moment one fell swoop in this decision florida moves from one of the most

00:33:20.680 liberal states in the nation on abortion to one of the most pro-life states in the nation on abortion

00:33:26.080 but at the same time the same court released a four to three opinion that particular case is

00:33:34.460 involving a florida proposed abortion amendment to appear on the november ballot that was promoted by

00:33:41.360 planned parenthood and that case has to be argued at the florida supreme court they have to approve that

00:33:47.140 it's not deceptive and that it only involves a single subject i think it violates both of those

00:33:52.580 criteria but unfortunately it was a four to three vote three great dissenters all women said that this

00:33:58.920 should not appear on the ballot it violates florida laws very deceptive in fact steve it's so broad

00:34:04.600 no abortion regulation will survive if passed because even the health and safety regulations will be

00:34:15.620 wiped away the only law that will survive if this passes is perhaps a parental notification not parental

00:34:23.320 consent but a parental notification that's the only law that'll stand indeed every law including health

00:34:30.420 and safety regulations will be overturned by this abortion amendment literally women will be thrown to

00:34:37.420 the back alley abortion butchers and the state of florida will have no ability to regulate licensing

00:34:44.040 or health and safety standards in these abortion butchers so that's what's on the ballot the people

00:34:51.160 will clearly be deceived because the ballot summary does not give the voter any clue about the breadth of

00:34:58.160 this amendment moreover it doesn't define key words like health care provider and in florida health care

00:35:04.360 providers are about 58 different categories and believe it or not a health care provider under this

00:35:10.240 provision can be a tattoo artist or a 911 operator that can say that the baby's not viable but even if

00:35:18.380 it is viable the abortion is still necessary people with absolutely no medical training so that's on the

00:35:24.260 ballot or that may well be on the ballot in november and that will be a critical fight in the upcoming

00:35:30.460 election when you say may well be on the ballot in november it wasn't it decided yesterday this one i'm

00:35:38.440 confused about it's going to be on the ballot in november i mean they're they're doing this in

00:35:43.080 arizona and florida this is the way they think they're going to defeat trump because the right

00:35:47.740 to life movement has not exactly shined on a state level in kansas or ohio for many different reasons

00:35:54.020 but the left feels now that they've got momentum so they're trying they're trying to push this thing

00:35:59.580 in arizona they just got to florida but didn't the court rule that it's deceptive language and all

00:36:04.780 it's on the ballot or is there still a way to fight it whether it's actually going to show up

00:36:08.760 in the ballot or not yeah there's two different levels first of all when they get 10 of the

00:36:13.220 required signatures then that triggers the florida supreme court review and the florida supreme court

00:36:17.840 just decides whether it complies with the deceptive not deceptive and single subject rule but then they

00:36:25.320 also have to have the number of voters signatures certified by the state of florida that has not yet

00:36:32.880 happened they are going through the certification process if they get all the requisite number of

00:36:39.420 voters uh petitions certified then it will be on the ballot and that's the process that's undergoing

00:36:45.920 right now so it's not a hundred percent that it'll be on the ballot but if it's not on the ballot in

00:36:51.800 november they can continue to push for the signatures to get it on a subsequent ballot but they're trying to

00:36:58.120 get it on the ballot for this coming november during the presidential election yeah because they want to

00:37:03.720 defeat trump if uh let's assume for purposes discussion it's on the ballot there will be tv with

00:37:09.880 the deceptive language as you described there will be an avalanche of tv ads to convince to bring people

00:37:17.800 out to the polls and they're in their in their the sidebar that is to defeat trump is this is the

00:37:23.620 this is the the real driving force of this also they would love to have this thing pass but the

00:37:28.940 driving force is to get use massive tv deceptive language massive tv campaign drive low information

00:37:35.760 low participation voters out and defeat uh orange man bad sir yeah no that's exactly right because they

00:37:43.260 don't have much going for them and joe biden so they've got to gin up their constituents or potential

00:37:48.560 voters some other way so what they will do is spend tens and tens of millions maybe a hundred

00:37:53.520 plus million dollars just in florida for advertisement they'll bombard the airwaves they'll go to all the

00:37:58.740 different events and they'll tell people to vote yes on amendment four that's what this amendment will

00:38:03.300 be amendment four on the ballot if and when it appears on the ballot so they'll try to also deceive

00:38:08.160 voters into what they're voting for they've already done that by collecting the signatures because we

00:38:12.500 know individuals who have been approached and they've been asked to sign this petition to support

00:38:18.140 women's rights you have to ask them multiple times what it's about they won't tell you it's about

00:38:22.580 abortion finally if you press press and press they will admit it's about abortion but they won't

00:38:28.940 admit how broad this is so the ads will be very deceptive they will be all designed to get people

00:38:36.560 to go to the ballot box to vote yes on amendment four and to vote for joe biden and so you're going to

00:38:44.100 have those two conflicting positions on this particular constitutional amendment this will become a huge

00:38:50.220 battleground state and some of the other states are also becoming the target for this very reason

00:38:55.660 they're trying to put some of these abortion amendments on the ballot because it's the only way that

00:38:59.800 they can get people ginned up to vote because they're not really excited about the opportunity

00:39:04.860 to vote for joe biden and so they're trying to ginned up people to vote in any way they can

00:39:10.260 they're trying to scare them and they're clearly uh working to deceive them and that's what has been

00:39:15.900 happening in florida and that's what the next several months will look like in florida as well

00:39:20.460 matt we need our audience to immerse themselves in this because this is very very big um where do they

00:39:29.360 go to your site to get all the analysis what can they do social media everything where do they go

00:39:34.860 we got to get people focused because this is going to happen in arizona it's going to happen in other

00:39:39.140 states and folks you just got to understand that matt's a pretty you know pretty steady eddie he

00:39:45.440 just said used the number 100 million dollars in advertising and he's not being crazy they will

00:39:50.400 spend any and they've got these billionaires on the left that will do anything on to support abortion

00:39:55.940 so you could see a hundred million dollars spent in the state of florida alone on this topic

00:40:00.740 sir where do they go well they can go steve to liberty council's website lc.org lc.org

00:40:07.920 we also have a particular website that's just going to be for this amendment lc.org

00:40:13.400 forward slash fl amendment lc.org forward slash fl amendment we'll need to get information out

00:40:21.420 because if this in fact does get on the ballot we'll know pretty soon we have to get educated we

00:40:27.180 have to let people know what this is about in florida to pass this amendment they need 60 percent of the

00:40:32.940 vote but their main point is obviously they want to pass this amendment but they want to get

00:40:37.840 people to the polls and they want them to vote for joe biden that's really what this is about

00:40:43.680 it's about the president of the united states certainly they would like this amendment passed

00:40:48.800 but they're trying to do everything possible to deceive the voters to scare them to get them to the

00:40:53.580 polls in november they also see they'll see the potential of flipping the house on this trust me

00:40:59.320 this is this is as big as it gets matt thank you so much for carbon time out look forward to having

00:41:03.160 your back and uh we'll get everybody over to the site today thank you steve good to be with you huge

00:41:07.980 folks thank you sir uh the liberty council guys are the best but man this is big uh ben harnwell

00:41:14.460 uh on batia and what you just heard on abortion give me your give me your thoughts on all this sir

00:41:20.200 i thought batia was absolutely fantastic steve um absolutely uh outstanding her analysis and also

00:41:28.280 the way she was describing the concepts in this book um it's not often i hear a book review um and i

00:41:36.660 need to go on to amazon and order and think i've got to find the time put aside the time um to to read

00:41:43.160 these arguments um absolutely outstanding i was very very impressed um no um there is something

00:41:50.720 however related to what she was saying um which is how uh sociopathic overlords game the system

00:41:59.560 uh for their own interests at the expense of the ordinary uh working family i don't know i think we're

00:42:07.160 running up to a break now steve um there isn't particularly on that point that that i that i

00:42:13.100 always add which is the entrance of the fed the federal reserve that is one of the key means

00:42:18.640 behind which uh our social uh sociopathic overlords game the system how how's it how does it work well

00:42:26.140 it's the means by which they turn people who have hundreds of millions of dollars into billionaires and

00:42:33.140 they leave ordinary working families needing to have two jobs to make it to the end of the working

00:42:37.980 week because of the did the devaluation of of of money it's it's it's it's as straightforward as

00:42:43.740 that that is why um as time you know we were looking at that film earlier at elmer gantry which

00:42:50.100 i think made in 1960 sort of this sort of has a lot of the sort of the the the golden age 1950s

00:42:57.020 hollywood philosophy behind it if you think back to the 1950s a single working guy could could look after

00:43:03.400 a whole family his wife would stay at home he'd have a number of kids and they'd have more than

00:43:07.660 enough money now you have where you have two parent families both working both the two jobs can't make

00:43:13.560 it to the end of the month one of the reasons is steve you know and this is something that the

00:43:17.420 warren does mention constantly it's because of the federal reserve and its power over the money

00:43:23.000 spike they have to have that power taken the game the game system uh short commercial break

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Episode 3507： Second Class： America's Betrayal By The Elite

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