Episode 3520: Biden's Attempt To Push Out Netanyahu; Forced Consumer Of Government
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On today's show, Alex Blumberg joins us to talk about a new piece by Alex's new book, Trump's White House in 2024: How the President s Campaign Is Locked Down. Alex talks about how the Trump 2020 campaign is run by strategists who are focused on getting Donald Trump re-elected in November 2024.
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In your new piece, you write in part, quote, while Trump's 2016 agenda was frequently stymied by
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infighting and incompetence, available signs point to a second West Wing staffed by loyalists
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who would actually carry out his policies. President Trump knows who can deliver and who
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can't. The backstabbers who weren't around in 2016 won't be in the next White House.
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Trump's senior campaign advisor, Jason Miller, told me Trump's 2024 campaign has already
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demonstrated Trump can run an effective operation. This campaign is locked down, a Republican close
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to Trump said. Most of all, Trump is disciplined because fear is a powerful, powerful motivator.
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His wealth and freedom are at stake. He is terrified of going to jail. A longtime friend from New York
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told me the criminal charges helped solve Trump's messaging problem. Prior to the indictments,
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Trump was a one line artist singing a tired tune that the 2020 election was stolen. But the dozens
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of felony counts gave him new material. He cast himself as a political martyr being prosecuted
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by the Biden White House. He's so distracted with the legal stuff. That's why the campaign
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is smooth. The Republicans to Trump, close to Trump said. And Gabe, you know, he says out loud
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that he would be a dictator and that he is your retribution to his voters. He says a lot of the
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quiet part out loud, even the frightening part out loud. He also has a campaign construct that now has
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his daughter-in-law built in. There are a lot of different factors to this that didn't exist the first
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time around. That's right, Mika. You know, everyone here on the show has been covering Trump for years.
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And the big story in 2016 and to some extent 2020 was that his campaign was a soap opera. It was a
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it was clashing personalities whose nonstop drama and covering this cycle. The thing that I've been
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struck by time and time again is that it's really a low drama campaign. These are operatives who are
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focused, who don't want press, who don't want their egos out there. They are focused on getting
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Donald Trump into the White House in November 2024, because as I write in the piece, his freedom
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is at stake. Really, the only thing that is guaranteed to keep Donald Trump out of jail is
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becoming the next president of the United States and appointing an attorney general who will get these
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charges thrown out. It's really that simple. And I think that is really why you see Donald Trump
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so focused. And yes, he says incendiary things on the stump. But when it comes to the mechanics of
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running the campaign, it is a much different operation. Highly confident that when you go back
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and is a senior member of this administration, President Trump's administration, starting in
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the afternoon of the 20th of January of 2025, do you feel confident that you will be able to deliver
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the goods that we can have serious prosecutions and accountability? And I want the Morning Joe
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producers that watch us and all the producers to watch us. This is just not rhetoric. We're absolutely
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dead serious. We're not you cannot have a constitutional republic and allow what these
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deep staters have done to the country. The deep state, the administrative state, the fourth branch
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of government never mentioned in the Constitution is going to be taken apart brick by brick. And the
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people that did these evil deeds will be held accountable and prosecuted, criminal prosecutions.
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Let me ask you finally, how does the campaign interact with people like Steve Bannon and Kash
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Patel when they they go on podcasts and they say that they're that Trump is going to throw political
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opponents and reporters in jail? And he looks into the camera and says, and Morning Joe, we're looking
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at you. We're coming after you. You're basically you're going to jail. How does this button down campaign
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respond to that? Well, I think they not only do they respond to it, Joe, I think they're encouraging it.
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You know, Jason Miller is close to Steve Bannon. There's a whole network of people who have while
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they're not officially part of the campaign, they have links to the campaign and they're using it
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through the MAGA media to get the ground, you know, to get the troops, the MAGA foot soldiers all riled up.
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And, you know, I think we should we've learned all since the last cycle. Let's not pretend take Trump
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at his word. I think the media, all of us, Democratic Party, even the few Republicans who are
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anti-Trump are sort of not paying attention. Just look at what they're saying. This is a national
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emergency. And I think Donald Trump is just hoping that throwing up sand in people's eyes, he can get
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into office. But as Anthony Scaramucci told me, Trump's former communications director, you know,
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this they want to be a dictator. He said it out loud and we should take him at his word.
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But I think that what caught my eye, Isaac, about your book, because I think some of us that consider
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ourselves progressive, me and the civil rights side of that, failed to really build. We try to work on
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this now with Nash Action Network and infrastructure. Talk more about how they redid themselves and went
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from the bottom, very local, very grassroots up, because I think that's underestimated in all of
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the flash we see of Donald Trump. Yeah, absolutely. It's been very under the radar. And it's just in
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the past few years, it's really since Trump left office that this has been happening. And Steve Bannon
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had a huge part in this by popularizing this idea called the precinct strategy, which was exactly that
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stop starting at the bottom at the precincts and going up in the party organization itself.
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This was the innovation over the Tea Party, which was like, you know, everyone go to this Tea Party
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meeting, you know, this Tea Party, that Tea Party. And the idea here was, no, no, we have the Republican
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Party and we're going to use the Republican Party organization, the Republican Party structure.
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There's real power in that. There's money, there's volunteers, there's infrastructure. That is the
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infrastructure that all the candidates use. And they're not the motivation for that,
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which has a lot of truth in it, actually, is that the reason that Trump failed in 2020
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was because of a few uncooperative Republicans. And that by taking over the party apparatus and
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purifying the party, they would make sure that that wouldn't happen again.
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Gabe, you did a great job here of nailing the sophistication of the Trump campaign this go
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round and that it is not just a hack organization the way it was playing by the seat of their pants back
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in 2016. So if the campaign competency continues over into the policy realm, that's where I think
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Democrats should really worry if, you know, not only that the campaign might be successful, but then
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in the policy realm, what are you hearing about there? Do you think that it's going to be run with
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equal sophistication? Well, I mean, by their own admission, you know, Jason Miller said that if they win the
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election, that the White House will be staffed only with loyalists. They've weeded out all the backstabbers.
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You know, a really important figure in this whole drama is Johnny McEntee, who was Donald Trump's
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former body man in the 2016 cycle. He rose up in Trump world. He became the head of White House
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personnel in the Trump administration. And his job is really to vet thousands and thousands of
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potential appointees who will go into the civil service and carry out the MAGA agenda. He's working
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with the Heritage Foundation and they're creating similar to this ground game, basically an army of
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people that will be ready in January 2025 to get into the government and carry out Trump's agenda.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full
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of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop
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that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share
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the big line? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,
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this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
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It's Monday, 8 April on the Year of Our Lord 2024. You see this morning, complete and total meltdown
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over at the Information Warfare Center of the Biden regime over there at Morning Joe in MSMEC.
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They had Gabe Sherman on from the Vanity Fair. He's got a huge piece out about how the killing
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machine of the Trump campaign now is going to lead into policy. And of course, Isaac Arnsdorf,
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who's the author of Finish What We Started. That book will be out tomorrow. We hope to get Isaac on
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the show later in the week. It's really a deep look at Dan Schultz's precinct strategy in the last
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two years and the school boards too, to look at the last two years or really almost the last four years
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from 2021 until today about how the grassroots really took over the Republican Party. Remember,
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I want to connect some dots here and I want to start with the $50 million that was raised
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at John Paulson's house on Saturday night for President Trump. Remember a couple of weeks ago,
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you had on Holy Thursday at Radio City Music Hall, you had the Three Kings, you had Obama,
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the traitor, you had Clinton, the rapist, and you had Biden, the criminal, raised $26 million. And
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they're all sitting there going, this is so amazing. Trump can't raise any money. Well,
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they raised $50 million on Saturday. But the reason they raised $50 million is tied back to that also
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to that Holy Thursday. Remember, standing in the rain, going to Officer Diller's Christian Wake that day,
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the little guy, the people out in Queens and in Brooklyn and Long Island, they went out there to
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commemorate and honor the officer, his widow and his infant son. President Trump also went. It's those
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little guys. It's the precinct strategy. It's what you've accomplished. Virtually none of the people,
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I mean, a couple like Scott Besson, Jason Trenner, a couple, there's a handful that went on Saturday
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night that have had President Trump's back from the beginning. But the vast majority of those
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billionaires, 95% of them, did not support President Trump. They don't like Trump. They're
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there for one reason. They see the ascendancy of MAGA. They see President Trump leading in the polls.
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They see President Trump coming to a victory. And they all have needs and wants, and they want a
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piece of the action. We don't say that's a bad thing. You know, modern politics is about money.
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MAGA is essentially tapped out. The small donors are nowhere have the capacity they had in 16 or in
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20. You've got to go to large donors, but they're only there for one reason. They're there because
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you forced them there. Remember the MAGA movement, having President Trump's back has done something
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historic. You've taken out Mitch McConnell, the leader of the Senate. He's powerless now. He's retired
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done. Because he broke his pick on Ukraine. And you're the ones that were the hard granite that
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he broke his pick on. You were relentless on that ridiculous bill he tried to put up. He broke his
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pick and he essentially retired. You took out the leader of the Senate. You took out a Speaker of the
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House. The first time in the history of this republic, McCarthy, forced him out of office. And you took out
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the entire senior leadership of the RNC. Now, that purge is not complete. There's still a lot of
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problems over there. And President Trump's got his team trying to sort things out. Las Vida and Lara
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Trump and that team, they're trying to sort things out. But you did that. That was a grassroots move.
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And this is, you know, Dan Schultz has had this idea for many, many years. He's been working on it.
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I actually got him on a conference call with very sophisticated and wealthy people back in,
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I think, 15 or 16. And it just didn't resonate. It didn't resonate with them. Because like Ecclesiastes
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says, there's a season for everything, right? A time and purpose under heaven.
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This is your moment. You forced those billionaires who all, by the way, they were all DeSantis and
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Youngkin and Nikki Haley. They're all neoliberal neocons. They're not populist nationalists.
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They're there for one reason. You took their choices away. You honed this down to the MAGA
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movement, to President Trump, to America First, the deplorables. You forced their hand. They're not
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there because they love Trump. They don't love Trump. Heck, a bunch of them were hanging in for
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Nikki Haley. All the biggest donors for these guys were all there saying, yes, sir, no, sir,
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three bags full, sir. How big a check to have for a $50 million? Now, that's all going to come with
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deal baggage, as we say on Wall Street. But hey, we'll work through that over time.
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And right there, you're seeing their panic with also Project 2025. Remember in 16,
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the company behind Victory, we weren't staff. We admit that. We didn't. Who MAGA? We had
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who these MAGA guys? Let's get them in the White House. Let's get them in the administration.
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Those 3,000 billets that you can fill immediately, they're going to be filled day one this time.
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Johnny McEntee, Paul Dans, Project 2025, Russ Vogt, the entire team working. This is where,
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look at the faces of those people. They're in shock. They're not happy. They're not happy
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because they understand that President Trump is leading not just a political party and not just
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a political movement. This is a deep, deep tectonic plate shift in American culture, society,
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civilization, all of it, as we drive towards this monumental victory. Now, do we have a few speed
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bumps in front of us? Yeah, a couple of three. We're going to talk about those today. Joel Pollack
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is going to join me in a minute to talk about Israel. MTG, we've shifted her to 11 o'clock. She's
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going to be here talking about the fight, this brutal fight that's going to take place in the House
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on FISA in Ukraine. She's going to be here with latest updates. We've got Jason Trent is going to join us,
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talk about how we get control of this federal budget. He's got a few modest proposals. Brilliant
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guy from Wall Street. So we're going to get it all done today. We're on a roll here. This historic
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Depends on whether you care what happens to the Palestinians as opposed to the Hamas government
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and the people with guided missiles. Yes, they were. Yes, they were. Now, wait a minute. Yes,
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they were. And Hamas is really smart. When they decide to rocket Israel, they insinuate themselves
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in the hospitals, in the schools, in the highly populous areas. And they are smart. So they
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try. So they wait, wait, wait. So they try to put the Israelis in a position of either not defending
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themselves or killing innocents. They're good at it. They're smart. They've been doing this a long
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time. Look, I don't agree. I killed myself to give the Palestinians a state. I had a deal they turned
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down. That would have given them all of Gaza. Wait, wait. All of Gaza between 96 and 97 percent of the West
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Bank compensating land in Israel. It is six months since October 7th, the worst massacre of Jews
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since the Holocaust. Today, Senator Schumer was supposed to appear at the Council of Jewish
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organizations to speak. He has done that for decades, has never missed an event. Today, besides betraying
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the people of Israel, besides betraying America's number one ally, Israel, today he showed the world
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that he is also a coward. He said he was coming. I was waiting for him, but he never showed up. What a coward
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he is. I can tell you one thing, Senator Schumer. If you had come today to this event that you were scheduled
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to be at, you and I would have remembered it for the rest of our lives. You are a betrayer and you
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We've been asked in the past, why are our protests on the International Day of Quds, why are they so
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anti-America? Why don't we just focus more on Israel and not talk so much about America?
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Gaza has shown the entire world why these protests are so anti-America. Because it's the United States
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government that provides the funds for all of the atrocities that we just heard about. And this is
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why Imam Khomeini, who declared the International Day of Quds, this is why he would say to pour all of
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your chants, all of your chants and all of your shouts upon the head of America.
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Malcolm X said, and I quote, we live in one of the rottenest countries that has ever existed on this
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earth. It's not genocide, Joe, that has to go. It's the entire system that has to go. Any system that
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would allow such atrocities and such devilry to happen and would support it, such a system does
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not deserve to exist on God's earth. And so when these fools ask us if Israel has the right to exist,
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the chant death to Israel has become the most logical chant shouted across the world today.
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El monte Israel! El monte Israel! El monte Israel!
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El monte Israel! El monte Israel! Okay, welcome back. That last was not in Tehran. That was in Dearborn,
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Michigan. I have said this and said it from the beginning. This pro-Palestinian movement is the
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most anti-American movement in the history of this country. And right there, it's the First Amendment,
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right? He's sitting there right there, death to America. America is the worst. America is the great
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Satan. He's got the mullahs in Persia and Tehran. These are his heroes. All of it. Joel Pollack,
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who was Andrew Breitbart's executive editor, later became the senior editor-at-large at all things at
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Breitbart, has written a couple of brilliant pieces, I think, over the last week. So, Joel,
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help me out here. There are four combat brigades of Hamas. Everybody agrees with this. This is not even a
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question. There are four combat brigades of Hamas in southern Gaza. There's two combat brigades,
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essentially, in Judea-Samaria. There are, so that's six, and I think originally 21. The IDF
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retreated or pulled back, attacked a retreat over the weekend after a conversation with Bibi Netanyahu
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and Biden and also this massive protest on Saturday night. You kind of said this was coming. You wrote
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that the color revolution is coming to Israel to remove Netanyahu and basically to surrender
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to the radical Muslim Brotherhood franchisee Hamas. Now, our audience is very familiar with color
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revolutions, given the great work of Darren Beattie and Rahim Kassam and Michael Benz about,
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you know, Victoria Nuland in Ukraine and the color revolution against Trump in the summer of 2020.
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Tell me, what do you mean? Is Israel, is Bibi blinked? Are they actually going to withdraw these
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troops and not take care of, not finish the job against these six remaining combat divisions, sir?
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Well, I had the opportunity to speak to an Israeli government spokesman today,
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and I asked him that question, is Israel retreating from Gaza? And he said, you should not read too much
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into the withdrawal of troops from southern Gaza, that we have the capability of moving those troops
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back in there at any time. And some Israeli sources I spoke to told me that they expect the nature of
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combat operations to shift from having a heavy presence of infantry on the ground to having more of a
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special forces type of engagement as they go into Rafa, that city, which is the last Hamas stronghold
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in southern Gaza. Very, very strategic location, by the way. It's right on the border between Gaza and
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Egypt. It controls all the border crossings there and the smuggling routes underground. It is the last
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stronghold of Hamas, the four battalions you mentioned, plus the Hamas leadership and more than likely
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about 100 living Israeli hostages who are being used as human shields by Hamas. Israel has to go
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into Rafa to complete the destruction of Hamas as a military force, but they pulled back. So some
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people are telling me, no, it's just a tactical withdrawal. But as you mentioned, it happened
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after President Biden told Netanyahu in that phone call last week that he wanted an immediate ceasefire.
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And that was extraordinary because the Biden administration essentially took the side of
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Hamas that says they won't exchange hostages in any kind of deal until there's a ceasefire first.
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For many months, both Israel and the United States were on the same page saying you only get a ceasefire
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if you give up hostages. Hamas has said, no, we want a ceasefire first. Then, of course, there's no
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guarantee they give up the hostages. They have a much stronger bargaining position. They're not under
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military pressure. Biden essentially took the side of Hamas in that negotiation. That is now the
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official position of the Biden administration. And what becomes clear before we get to the bit about
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the color revolution, what becomes clear is that Biden has been using Hamas in the last two months
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as leverage against Israel. That is to say, when Israel came close to destroying Hamas,
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first in the city of Han Yunus and now in Rafa, Biden tried to stop Israel from destroying Hamas
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because he wants to use this war to leverage a broader deal in the Middle East. Now, President
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Trump was very, very close to that broader deal without any kind of concessions to terror groups,
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to the corrupt Palestinian authority. He was going to base it simply on the mutual interest of the
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Saudis and the Israelis and having trade, commerce, peace and normal relations. But Biden is now trying to
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use this conflict to force Israel to accept a Palestinian state, which the vast majority of Israelis
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don't want. Ten years ago, Israelis were in favor of it. They believed that peace was possible. After October
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7th, the polls have completely flipped in Israel. Israelis don't want any Palestinian state on their border
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that could direct this kind of violence at them again. And Biden, nevertheless, is trying to impose this on Israel
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so he can show constituencies like the one you showed in Dearborn, that at least this wasn't just
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a wasted effort, that he hopes to bring them back on board in time for November 2024. And so he's trying
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to use Hamas as leverage. He's saying to the Israelis, don't you dare destroy Hamas, because if you do,
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then you're going to be able to impose your vision on Gaza, which is a demilitarized Gaza controlled by
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non-terrorist Palestinians. Biden is saying, no, I want the Palestinian authority back in there.
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I want a big deal with the Saudis that includes a Palestinian state, Israeli withdrawals from
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this, that and the other place. So Biden is using Hamas, a terrorist organization, as leverage against
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Israel. And it becomes clear now that he's done that since the beginning of the year. Back in February,
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Netanyahu said, let us go into Rafa. It'll take weeks, not months, for the war to be over. Two months
00:25:56.680
later, the Israelis have now pulled out of southern Gaza. They've essentially said it's a tactical
00:26:02.060
retreat, but they've really been forced to do it. And there's no hostage deal. There's no big deal
00:26:07.020
with the Saudis, although Biden keeps talking about it. And Biden is publicly trashing our ally. And it is
00:26:15.620
making the mullahs in Iran very happy. It's making Hamas very happy. This has always been their strategy.
00:26:21.380
Put as many civilians in harm's way as possible, create global international outrage,
00:26:25.560
and hope that the United States forces Israel to withdraw. It looks like that is happening.
00:26:32.000
You broke some news here. I got to go to break, but I got about 60 seconds. With the force of the IDF,
00:26:39.880
we've taken out 15 combat regiments, battalions in what, six months or five months since they actually
00:26:47.200
engaged in combat. You're saying now they want to, they're going to, they're trying to sell that
00:26:51.260
they can go in special forces and impossible. You can't take out the four hard. These are the hardest
00:26:55.120
of the hard down there in the South. And they got in this top flight in Judeo-Samaria. Are you saying
00:27:01.300
they're pitching now that they're going to use special forces to get this done and not the blunt
00:27:07.640
That's what they're saying. They can go in and limited operations. And they point to the successful
00:27:11.880
operation at Shifa Hospital a couple weeks ago, where they fought a pitched battle against Hamas
00:27:17.380
terrorists who had returned to that hospital. They killed 200 Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists.
00:27:22.640
They arrested more than 500 and they had zero civilian casualties. The Israeli military protected
00:27:27.720
the doctors, the nurses, the patients, the staff, and they got the terrorists without any civilian
00:27:32.540
casualties. So they're saying that was a successful operation. We can do that in Rafa. Unfortunately,
00:27:37.560
that's not the only thing that has to happen in Rafa. As you mentioned, there is the presence of so
00:27:43.800
much Hamas. Joel, Joel, Joel, Joel, just hang on. I want to take time and develop this. Joel Pollack,
00:27:49.620
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Okay. I'm coming out in the next 48 hours with our next 72 hours with the fifth installment of
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you know, the global south that control the resources, where they are completely focused on
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de-dollarization and trying to come up with some basket of currencies and get us off the dollar.
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They're buying gold at record rates in 22, 23, and now starting off in 24. So go to
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BirchGold.com slash Bannon. Gold got up to 23.64. It's backed off a little bit, but every day it's
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but Philip Patrick and the team will. BirchGold.com slash Bannon. Talk to Philip Patrick. He was on the
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Saturday show. Absolutely magnificent. So, Joel, back to you about this reality of what this,
00:30:32.920
you know, with Clinton, I want to put it in perspective. Help me out because you're the
00:30:35.900
expert. Clinton's talking about Yasser Arafat. They came up with a two-state solution back in,
00:30:41.320
you know, in his day. I think they were from Camp David, you know, up there. Yasser Arafat,
00:30:47.020
it's not that the Palestinians turned it down. Yasser Arafat went back and never even put it to a vote
00:30:51.260
because he told people later and they gave him everything. If he had put a vote, he'd been killed
00:30:55.300
because the focus of the Islamic supremacists are the total destruction of Israel. And part of that's
00:31:04.560
because it represents the Judeo-Christian West. That's what this is, a civilizational struggle.
00:31:10.080
Am I wrong in that there's no peace here? There just can't. This is why it's so
00:31:16.740
important for Israel and Netanyahu's government, the coalition war cabinet, to finish the job. And look,
00:31:25.600
as brave as that battle was last week, when you've talked about four brigades of their toughest fighters
00:31:31.800
that are now down the south, and as you said, all the other infrastructure down there, I just don't
00:31:36.320
see how we're going to do it. But if you do it by a series of raids, you're going to be doing this eight
00:31:39.720
years from now and you're losing the information war. So walk, explain to me how that makes sense.
00:31:43.920
It doesn't make sense, except as a strategy, either to placate the Biden administration,
00:31:50.580
which remains the main source of arms and ammunition for Israel, or perhaps as a tactical
00:31:56.500
maneuver ahead of hostage negotiations in Cairo to try to get Hamas to budge. Hamas says they're not going
00:32:01.900
to release any hostages until there's a permanent ceasefire. Maybe Israel withdrew some troops as some
00:32:07.160
kind of a goodwill gesture to hope to entice them into some position of compromise. But they're not
00:32:11.600
compromising. Hamas is sticking to its guns. They are taking heart from the Biden administration's
00:32:18.380
shift against Israel at the United Nations, and again last week in lecturing Netanyahu.
00:32:23.680
And they are toughening their positions. What you mentioned with Camp David, Yasser Arafat walked
00:32:28.760
away from a deal between Bill Clinton and then Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak that was exactly as
00:32:34.680
Clinton described it. He walked away from a deal. The Saudis thought he was crazy for walking away from a deal.
00:32:41.100
They wanted this confirmation or this confrontation over with. And he was welcomed as a hero when he
00:32:47.320
returned to the Palestinian territories. They hung banners saying Arafat is Saladin, the Muslim conqueror
00:32:54.500
who took over Jerusalem 500 years ago. And so there is a religious basis to this conflict. It doesn't
00:33:00.780
prevent every Arab or Muslim state from making peace with Israel, but it does fuel the radicals in the
00:33:06.960
Palestinian movement who only want to destroy Israel. They don't want to build their own state.
00:33:12.680
And that's what you see on campuses and in American cities.
00:33:16.220
Paul, hang on. Slow down. Slow down. Slow down. Slow down. Slow down. Slow down.
00:33:20.940
Go back and repeat that. It's not said on television, and it's not said often enough.
00:33:28.180
The Palestinians don't want a state. They just want Israel not to be a state.
00:33:32.120
The only Palestinians who have given any thought to what it might mean to build a state, ironically,
00:33:38.040
are the Palestinians in Hamas, who had a conference in 2021 at a beachfront hotel in Gaza,
00:33:44.300
where they pulled together all kinds of planners and experts and started dividing up the state of
00:33:49.620
Israel into little cantons that were going to be governed as part of an Islamic state.
00:33:54.580
They're the ones who will tell you, we want an Islamic state. That's the kind of state we want.
00:33:58.180
Go to any of these pro-Palestinian protesters on campuses or in the streets of America and ask them,
00:34:04.260
what kind of Palestinian state do you want? Do you think it's going to be a democratic state?
00:34:08.500
Go ask the queers for Palestine if the Palestinian state they want is going to respect gay rights.
00:34:14.240
And then go to Hamas and see what Hamas stands for, how they execute gay people,
00:34:18.620
how they hope to make the remaining Israelis who they don't chase out of the country or kill,
00:34:22.920
they want to make them into slaves to work for the new Islamic state that's going to work
00:34:27.640
somehow in the land between the river and the sea. That's what Hamas is planning. But the rest of
00:34:33.980
the Palestinian movement doesn't do anything to create the conditions for statehood. They don't
00:34:38.200
even take responsibility for feeding their own people. Somehow in this war, it becomes Israel's
00:34:42.960
responsibility to feed the Palestinians, to give them electricity, to make sure that they're okay,
00:34:47.720
even though the Israelis are not the aggressors here. The Palestinians attack the Israelis,
00:34:51.380
not just Hamas, by the way. Talk to the residents of those border communities like I have in Israel,
00:34:56.720
and I'm going back there tomorrow. They'll tell you Palestinian civilians participated in the
00:35:01.200
atrocities, in the looting, that they came into their communities. Sometimes you had Israeli families
00:35:06.180
hiding out in the safe rooms in their homes, terrified, fearing for their lives, listening to
00:35:10.720
Palestinian civilians go through their refrigerators and go through their closets and take whatever they
00:35:14.960
wanted. That's the reality. Israel was invaded by Palestinian society in Gaza. And
00:35:21.000
that's the reality here. There's no movement toward building any kind of state. And you go to other
00:35:26.020
Arab states, you see different kind of leadership. I was in Dubai, Abu Dhabi last year. You see what
00:35:30.720
the Emiratis have done, how they've changed course, how they've embraced modernity in a way. It's not
00:35:36.060
perfect by any stretch, but they have a different view, a view that looks forward. The Palestinian
00:35:41.160
national movement is a destructive movement. They don't invest in themselves. They only invest in the
00:35:46.260
tunnels underneath the ground. There are no bomb shelters for civilians in Gaza, just for Hamas.
00:35:50.660
All that construction money, all that material, it didn't go into buildings and civic centers and
00:35:54.920
stadiums and schools. It went into tunnels for Hamas terrorists, and it went into rockets and
00:35:59.540
weapons from Iran. They are single-minded in their focus on creating an Islamic state in what is today
00:36:05.600
the Jewish state of Israel, which is open to members of all faiths. They're celebrating Eid this
00:36:10.360
weekend, Jerusalem. Muslims can come and observe there. Christians had Easter. They're going to have
00:36:14.700
Orthodox Easter. Israel is an open, tolerant, democratic state, but that's not what Hamas
00:36:19.740
wants. And you should challenge any pro-Palestinian people you see and ask them, what kind of state do
00:36:24.480
you want? Now, in Israel, the other problem, aside from the Palestinian question, is the political
00:36:30.960
instability that's being fomented there in this color revolution that we discussed earlier. The Biden
00:36:36.460
administration is pushing the internal instability of Israel. They're trying to topple Netanyahu because he is
00:36:44.460
the last obstacle to the Biden administration's grand utopian plans for the Middle East that
00:36:50.400
include capitulating to Iran, allowing the Palestinians to have a state, and allowing these
00:36:55.560
other forces to run amok, not just in the Middle East, but all over the world. They don't have a plan
00:36:59.380
for dealing with that. Their plan simply is to give in. And Netanyahu has stood up to Obama and Biden
00:37:07.060
for a decade saying, you can't do this. This doesn't make sense. This is not the reality of the Middle East.
00:37:12.520
And because he's the one person who will tell it straight to them, they want him out of the way.
00:37:17.360
So Biden and Schumer have said openly they want new elections in Israel to get rid of Netanyahu.
00:37:22.280
There was a very interesting intelligence assessment. It was prepared in February,
00:37:26.800
but it came out in March from the U.S. intelligence agencies predicting that there would be protests to
00:37:32.000
topple Netanyahu. At the time, there were no protests. And all of a sudden, after this assessment
00:37:36.620
comes out, there are protests. And the timing is very suspicious. In addition, the White House
00:37:41.900
hosted Netanyahu's main political rival, Benny Gantz, who's a former IDF chief of staff, former
00:37:47.000
general, but he's Netanyahu's main rival. He shows up at the White House without telling Netanyahu
00:37:51.900
right after this intelligence assessment comes out or around the same time.
00:37:56.260
And it's absolutely clear to everybody what's going on here, that the White House
00:38:00.000
of the Biden administration is trying to push Netanyahu out of office by using the same color
00:38:06.220
revolution tactics they've used to topple other democratically elected governments.
00:38:10.380
They create the illusion of public outrage and public unrest. And what you don't see are the 75%
00:38:16.140
of Israelis who agree with Netanyahu's policies, who want to go into Rafa and finish off Hamas,
00:38:21.240
who are sending their sons and daughters into the army, into the military reserves, leaving work,
00:38:26.380
leaving home, going in there. And, you know, at the beginning of the war,
00:38:29.400
when I went in October, right after October 7th, I said that if Netanyahu did not invade Gaza,
00:38:34.200
the army that was camped out on the border with Gaza would turn around, go back to Jerusalem,
00:38:39.260
kick him out of office, and then go back and fight the war, because the people of Israel want to be
00:38:42.940
rid of Hamas. They support the war. They support the policies that Netanyahu has adopted. But Biden
00:38:48.980
is backing the left-wing opposition, which can't win elections anymore in Israel. They have
00:38:53.560
fallen out of favor ever since the failure of Camp David that we just talked about with Yasser Arafat
00:38:57.960
walking away from the deal. The Israeli left has collapsed. They can't win an election,
00:39:02.200
so they go to the streets. And the Biden administration is encouraging them. And some
00:39:06.220
of the leaders of the protest movement in Israel openly bragged that they're talking to the Biden
00:39:11.120
White House and taking instructions from them. Now, I've met some of these protest leaders.
00:39:15.280
Some of them are sincere people who believe that it's in the best interest of their country that
00:39:19.220
they get a new government for whatever reason. But some are hoodwinked by the Biden administration.
00:39:24.140
They think that this administration is great for them and that it's going to arrange the political
00:39:29.660
situation in a post-Netanyahu world in a way that favors the Israeli left. But what both the Biden
00:39:36.060
administration and the left-wing movement in Israel are not reckoning with is the fact that the
00:39:40.280
vast majority of Israelis want to win the war. They don't want to live under the shadow of Hamas.
00:39:44.560
They don't trust Hamas. And they support Netanyahu's policies, even if some are tired of him
00:39:50.980
personally, since he's been around there for so many years. But this is a war that Israelis know they
00:39:58.500
Joe, where do people get your writings over at Breitbart, the Breitbart Radio News, the radio shows,
00:40:04.000
your social media? You come in a little hot sometimes on Twitter. Where do people go?
00:40:10.040
Well, you can follow it all at Breitbart.com. I'm also on SiriusXM, Patriot 125,
00:40:15.060
from 7 to 10 p.m. Eastern on Sundays. And you can follow me on Twitter, at Joel Pollack. That's
00:40:21.620
where you'll get a lot of my observations about the Middle East. And look, I got to tell you,
00:40:27.400
Israelis are telling me they need a change in the American administration. Many Israelis are
00:40:31.960
despondent and despairing because they feel that Joe Biden is the worst thing that's happened to
00:40:36.080
their country. They trusted him in the beginning of the war. They trusted he would stand up to Iran.
00:40:40.120
Now they're terrified of him because they feel he's unleashing hell on their country by backing
00:40:45.160
away and letting the forces of Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, walk all over Israel,
00:40:50.200
not just Israel, but not even responding to attacks on America. How can it be that this
00:40:53.740
primitive tribe in Yemen that can't even invent a missile, they have to import the Iranians,
00:40:59.920
how can they threaten global shipping? Israelis are looking at this and seeing a weak America.
00:41:04.500
They're terrified. And they're counting the months until November, until January 2025, really.
00:41:10.120
Hopefully, maybe we'll track you down where you're in Israel. You leave, you leave tonight
00:41:15.460
for Israel? I leave tomorrow. Tomorrow. Okay, we'll track you down. Joel, thank you so much for
00:41:22.160
coming on and explaining this. Thank you, Steve. The color revolution and net and hair blink. Thank
00:41:28.780
you, Joel Pollack. Joel, I think, knows this topic as well or better than anybody in this country.
00:41:33.680
Joel Pollack over at Breitbart. Jason Trennett joins us. And Jason, I'm going to ask you to hold
00:41:39.160
through the block. We're getting to you a little late. You were with President Trump on Saturday.
00:41:42.740
We'll get to that later. But you have given, and people should know, Jason is considered
00:41:48.940
by the hedge fund guys on Wall Street as one of the smartest guys out there. And I think you've had
00:41:53.540
such a great understanding and grasp on really where this economy is going. But talk to me for a
00:41:58.920
second about, we got about 60 seconds. Tee it up. You've got a simple proposal that you think can get
00:42:06.020
our budget under control, this massive out-of-control spending. And in essence, it's making the American
00:42:12.000
people kind of the preferred stockholders. It's making them in charge when they write checks that
00:42:17.620
they can actually see what's going on. Give me 60 seconds, and then we'll bring you back and go into
00:42:21.520
more depth. The 60 seconds is this, Steve. You stop withholding at the employer level, and you force
00:42:28.600
people, which you force people to pay for their taxes like they pay for any other good or service
00:42:34.460
with quarterly checks. And that's the way the system worked from 1913. There was no federal income
00:42:41.820
tax, permanent income tax, until 1913, until 1939. And people paid taxes quarterly. The problem with
00:42:49.940
withholding is that it makes the system opaque, and it's not uncommon, even in my office, among young
00:42:56.120
people, where they'll get a tax refund and think that they're getting something from the government
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other than their own money back without interest. And so I think if people paid their tax bills like
00:43:08.200
they paid their other bills, they would demand much more from their government. And I think it would
00:43:14.340
stop a lot of this crazy spending that we're seeing from the government, both at the federal level and
00:43:20.620
the state and local level. This is brilliant. This is something Trump could do. Okay,
00:43:25.200
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Okay, Philip, we're lucky to get you. You know, Philip, it's very tough to book now. It's not like
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Dave Walsh. Dave Walsh and Mike Davis and other guys that we started here on our platform are in
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every different direction. We wanted it to be that way. We've given them a platform and people have seen
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how brilliant they are and they're everywhere. Philip Patrick is just, he's so damn busy because
00:46:00.020
gold is at an all-time, at least an all-time high. Now when you take in inflation, still got another
00:46:05.640
30% to go. And I take it all indications it may go there. But Philip, when we have them go to Birch
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Gold, you've got all kinds of tax-assisted things. You've got 401ks, IRAs, the way you get it over.
00:46:16.860
Just walk people through, when they go to Birch Gold, how do they, because most people in this
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audience have never been gold bugs. Most people in this audience, I mean, we have
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hardcore, don't get me wrong, super hardcore, that love when we talk about capital markets,
00:46:30.340
love when we talk about gold, love the fact of where gold is and worship you guys. But a lot of
00:46:37.720
people are not. So tell us what, when we send them over to Birch Gold, what happens?
00:46:42.000
So it's really simple. Birchgold.com forward slash Bannon. What that's going to do is going to get them
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access to a free information kit. It's a very informative, 20, 25-page guide. It's going to give
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people a lot of the history, how they can invest in gold, whether it's through an IRA or cash sitting
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outside. And then from there, they're going to have access to somebody like myself. We're there to sort
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of guide them through, hold their hands, answer any questions, and ultimately help to structure
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portfolios that are based on what the individual is trying to achieve. So the key for us, as you know
00:47:18.800
well, is always education. We feel that people can make the best decisions from a fully informed
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perspective. So that's where it starts. Once people start to build a comfort level, we can help to
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structure, facilitate, and make sure that they can protect either portions of retirement accounts
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or, like I said, cash in the bank. But it's very simple. You contact Birch. From there, we provide the
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information and will hold their hand step by step by step. You've been doing this a long time, and
00:47:49.060
your institution has been doing it a long time. I just want to leave with the fact of, from a
00:47:53.760
professional, and you've been doing this through wars and recessions and all of it. Have you ever
00:48:00.500
seen it crazier in kind of world finance or capital markets than today, and kind of the decisions
00:48:06.940
policymakers are both making on the fiscal side with these legislatures and assemblies and congresses
00:48:13.640
throughout the world, and also on the monetary side with these central banks? Have you ever seen it
00:48:18.400
more, I have to say, irrational? Never. Not in my lifetime. You'd have to go back long before I was
00:48:27.060
born to see it. We've got to remember a few things. Look, we've dealt with inflation before. We've dealt with
00:48:32.280
recessions before. The whole time we've been, or I've been alive, the dollar has been king. So we're seeing
00:48:38.940
very, very different issues today than we've dealt with in the past. And I think doing what we've always
00:48:45.020
done to address them ultimately will not work. And, you know, I say to people on the phone a lot, and I say
00:48:51.180
here as well, if central banks are buying more gold over the last two years than any other years in history, that
00:48:58.660
means more than anything, I have to say. There is not smarter money, certainly when it comes to currency
00:49:04.500
than central banks. So you always follow the smart money. But certainly in my lifetime, I have never
00:49:10.800
seen, you know, decisions being made as this administration are. And as we've said before, we are
00:49:16.980
digging a hole that I'm getting very fearful. We not we will not be able to get out of. And this
00:49:22.980
administration is just playing into the hands of our enemies and creating a sound argument to de-dollarize,
00:49:31.400
which is absurd. So the answer is no, Stephen. It keeps me up at night.
00:49:38.580
OK, we'll take your number two pencil out because I don't think I've said this definitively before,
00:49:44.940
like I've made other statements. I think virtually all became true. There's roughly, I think,
00:49:49.140
three hundred trillion dollars of debt in the world that that is personal debt, corporate debt,
00:49:53.640
government debt, central bank debt, all of it. We are going to have the world's biggest margin call
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in a couple of years. And that margin call, they're going to be going to have a margin call
00:50:05.140
on this debt. And all bets are off when that happens. We're going to see things are going to
00:50:09.940
happen in the next couple of years in capital markets and in your savings and your retirement
00:50:14.300
and what's happening that we've never seen. We have warned on the show now for years.
00:50:18.860
We started the end of the dollar empire with Philip and the team, I think, three years ago.
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We have warned about this for years. And if it continues unabated, I tell you, all bets are off
00:50:28.340
and you're going to see something. You're going to see things you've never seen before. It's going to
00:50:31.280
make the Weimar Republic look like a Sunday afternoon picnic of what's going to happen. And remember,
00:50:36.900
it was the destruction of the middle class because of that monster inflation
00:50:40.420
that led to the rise of Hitler and the fascist movement throughout Europe, in Italy and in
00:50:45.900
Germany. Philip Patrick, where do people go to get to you personally? What's your social media?
00:50:50.520
How do they get to your Birch Gold? Very simple. So for Birch Gold, for information,
00:50:54.880
it's birchgold.com forward slash Bannon. Again, birchgold.com forward slash Bannon. And you can
00:51:02.140
always reach me directly at Philip Patrick on Getter. Again, at Philip Patrick on Getter.
00:51:10.420
Philip, thank you so much. Thanks to the Birch Gold team and look forward to launching
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End of the Dollar Empire segment five, part five, the central bank digital currency. People's heads
00:51:22.960
will blow up when they see that. They will get the pitch. They'll get the pitchforks out and demand,
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hey, we got to start with the forensic audit first, but then accountability second. Philip Patrick,
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thank you so much. Thank you, Steve. Thank you for having me.
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Now, I think you have to, whether you make the decision or not is your choice. I mean,
00:51:42.980
you're free men and women. That's what we try to do here. But we try to immerse in information. I
00:51:47.320
think now is the time, I keep saying, to go do this. There is, there's no logic to this. There's
00:51:53.920
just, this is almost like a banana republic runs itself. What we're doing here on the fiscal side and
00:51:58.540
the monetary side makes no logical financial or economic sense at all. This is purely a ruling
00:52:06.920
class that's trying to protect themselves. That's what it is. This is a ruling class trying to protect
00:52:10.600
themselves. That's why you got to see how you're going to hedge against it, because we're going to
00:52:13.780
have a margin call, global margin call on this, that is going to cut a swath of destruction to
00:52:19.600
working class and middle class people, not just the United States, very big here, but throughout the
00:52:23.860
world. That day, as sure as the turning of the earth, that day is coming. Next week is going to
00:52:32.120
be quite intense. We're going to start with MTG. We've got her currently booked, but we've got a lot
00:52:36.680
more going on. But this whole, they're coming back and they're coming back after approving a $2
00:52:41.520
trillion deficit just this year and not, and not securing the border. The border has been worse
00:52:47.380
since Congress left, been worse. They're literally going to come back and they're going to put $60
00:52:52.160
billion to Ukraine on the table, and we're going to fight this down to the bitter end.
00:52:55.820
This is about the direction of the country, and this is about how irrational, insane
00:52:59.960
your sociopathic overlords are. I want to thank everybody for being here. This week has been
00:53:04.660
quite intense. I would like to say next week's not, but it's going to be even more intense.
00:53:09.020
Congress is back. There's going to be fights all over. President Trump's closer to the trial in New York,
00:53:14.300
the phony trial, the persecution. I'll be up on Getter all weekend. I want to thank
00:53:19.360
everybody, all the War Room Posse, Grace, Moe, the entire team, Jane, Natalie, my great production
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crew. See you back here on Monday Morning Life.
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