Bannon's War Room - Episode 3557： Billionaires Underwrite The Protests On College Campuses

00:00:00.000 University keeping the media out. This is the COO of the university.

00:00:05.100 Are we not letting the media in?

00:00:10.100 My card has been deactivated? Why?

00:00:12.100 Can you back up, please?

00:00:13.100 Wait, wait, wait, wait. Everybody, my card has been deactivated.

00:00:17.600 This is Cass Holloway, the COO. This is Gerald Lewis.

00:00:21.200 They were in the meeting where I asked them if Hamas is a terror organization

00:00:25.300 and they couldn't say that it is a terrorist organization.

00:00:28.100 Why? I'm a professor. Why can I help you?

00:00:29.800 Shai, we are willing to take you to the math lawn?

00:00:34.800 No, I am a professor here.

00:00:36.800 We are an alumnus. We have a room.

00:00:38.500 Wait, wait, wait. Everybody quiet.

00:00:40.200 I am a professor here.

00:00:41.800 I have every right to be everywhere on campus.

00:00:44.900 You cannot let people that support Hamas...

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00:01:39.900 The ongoing political protests at Columbia over the Hamas-Israel war.

00:01:45.900 Cooperman's comments came as some billionaire Columbia donors are saying they are rethinking their support of the school amid everything that is going on with the protests.

00:01:56.900 And Andrew joins us now.

00:01:59.900 So, Andrew, I agree with Mr. Cooperman.

00:02:03.900 I think maybe they were a little slow to it.

00:02:08.900 I know this will make nobody happy, but I think at Columbia, I think Columbia is a good example of where they're trying to do the right thing.

00:02:16.900 Now, you know, it was Columbia where students took over, you know, during the Vietnam War, students took over the president's office and everybody thought that was so cool and so noble.

00:02:25.900 Younger people like me grew up and they're like, what?

00:02:29.900 What? I was always, you know, afraid to knock on the president of the university's door.

00:02:34.900 There's nothing cool about anarchy and chaos on your college campuses.

00:02:40.900 And I think sometimes these administrators, I don't know if they came straight from academia.

00:02:45.900 I don't know what the problem is, but they're paid to be adults.

00:02:50.900 They're paid to keep people safe.

00:02:53.900 They're paid to have an orderly environment where students can learn.

00:02:59.900 So I think I think Mr. Cooperman may be right there that they're getting it better late than never.

00:03:05.900 Well, look, you know, one of the things just happened today is they've just announced they've gone hybrid effectively for the rest of the semester as a way of dealing with it.

00:03:14.900 Now, a lot of people said that means you're not controlling anything.

00:03:16.900 I mean, you're effectively giving up. You're saying you can't control the situation.

00:03:20.900 Now, maybe that's the practicality of of where we are.

00:03:23.900 But I think there is a real question as to whether Columbia is handling this well.

00:03:28.900 I think they're getting they're getting better at it, if you will.

00:03:31.900 But, you know, that hasn't stopped Robert Kraft. Of course, you know, the owner of the Patriots came out.

00:03:38.900 He's an alumnus and said that he is effectively not going to be giving them more money.

00:03:43.900 And there's a whole number, by the way, of major billionaire donors on Wall Street and others who come from come from Columbia.

00:03:51.900 You know, Warren Buffett, one of the probably the most famous alumni, he has not spoken out.

00:03:56.900 I think there's a real debate as as to whether the donors should be trying to use their influence, not trying to use their influence.

00:04:02.900 That's another piece of it. And so many of them, frankly, I know a bunch who would like to actually speak out, who say, you know what?

00:04:08.900 I don't want to because I'm so scared that actually my employees will actually either turn against me on this issue or that my customers will turn against me on this issue.

00:04:17.900 So there's a real sort of push pull going on here in terms of all of it.

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00:04:54.900 No.

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00:05:58.160 Yeah, and it's very sad to me, and, you know, we, you know, but look at America.

00:06:06.460 We've done research, and it shows 90% of the people in this country are good people.

00:06:13.080 They just have to be educated, and we can't have them apathetic or misguided.

00:06:20.400 We have to let them know, and they have to stand up and not be silent.

00:06:27.900 And, you know, it starts with the Jews, but then every group that feels marginalized, 0.94

00:06:35.320 whether it be blacks, Asians, Hispanics, gay people, 0.97

00:06:39.380 it'll just really impact the great fabric of this country,

00:06:44.600 where people have freedom to operate and go the way they want.

00:06:49.780 And now we have hatred and intimidation taking over.

00:06:55.620 And, you know, I was just thinking when I went to Colombia,

00:07:00.680 it was a place where people listened, were empathetic, had compassion.

00:07:05.540 And now, you know, we have professors who, instead of teaching how to think,

00:07:13.040 that they're trying to tell our young people what they should think.

00:07:17.640 Let's stop.

00:07:34.560 Let's go.

00:07:37.140 Let's go.

00:07:39.640 Let's go.

00:07:41.140 Let's go.

00:07:44.700 Let's go.

00:07:45.640 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:08:04.820 Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.

00:08:08.800 I've got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:08:14.440 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:08:16.420 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:08:17.840 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:08:20.460 It's going to happen.

00:08:21.740 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:08:25.120 Mega Media.

00:08:26.540 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:08:31.900 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:08:35.040 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:08:41.960 War Room.

00:08:42.880 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:08:44.960 Let me get my microphone cut on.

00:08:56.640 It's Tuesday, 23 April in the year of our Lord, 2024.

00:09:01.380 We're going to go to Lower Manhattan in a minute.

00:09:03.120 Ben Burquam, and now we've got a seat inside the courtroom, a lot going on today, including

00:09:07.800 about the gag order.

00:09:09.360 We've got some cuts.

00:09:10.420 Really, I think Jonathan Turley really summarized what's happening.

00:09:13.360 But what's happening in Lower Manhattan is inextricably linked to what's happening at Columbia

00:09:17.640 and at Yale and Harvard and these other places.

00:09:19.720 Robert Kraft and Cooperman, these large donors, progressive donors, they didn't have any.

00:09:29.000 All of a sudden, it's like they're shocked that the radical Sharia supremacist jihadist

00:09:37.120 are coming after Jewish students. 0.51

00:09:40.180 But they had no problem.

00:09:42.980 They were underwriting for years what got us here.

00:09:46.740 This just didn't happen overnight.

00:09:49.380 You know, there's a lot of complaints on some of these sites that, hey, these students are

00:09:53.540 all affirmative action, DEI, et cetera, that got in there.

00:09:58.140 Hey, I don't know that or not.

00:09:59.420 But I know that Kraft and Cooperman underwrote Columbia when it's most progressive.

00:10:07.360 They kept pouring money in there.

00:10:08.540 It was no problem until it turned on them.

00:10:11.200 All of a sudden, it's a problem.

00:10:12.620 And Columbia cratered.

00:10:13.840 Columbia is basically going to give remote learning.

00:10:17.620 And if you saw the two young women that Ben Burquam interviewed yesterday, who are essentially

00:10:22.320 scared to walk across campus and said, hey, I'm paying $60,000.

00:10:26.400 Why am I doing it online?

00:10:27.480 It looks like that's going to be the part of the solution.

00:10:31.280 Like I said, that very first in that cut, the very first, that professor who couldn't

00:10:35.400 get on campus, he's one of the most progressive professors there.

00:10:40.100 This is the progressive world order turning on itself.

00:10:44.600 And you have to have, you have to have total clarity here with people like Trevor Loudon

00:10:50.580 and Frank Gaffney, who've been mocked and ridiculed and banned, you know, banned at CPAC

00:10:54.020 years ago.

00:10:54.660 You don't see him on Fox News, banned over at Murdoch News, banned every day.

00:10:57.480 They've been talking about the Red Green Alliance, the progressives teaming up with

00:11:02.340 the jihadist.

00:11:03.680 And eventually part of that's going to come unwound.

00:11:06.020 You're seeing it right now.

00:11:08.060 This is a very dangerous situation, extremely dangerous situation.

00:11:12.700 If you were to walk through some of those encampments, you'd be torn apart.

00:11:15.380 Look what happened in New York City last night.

00:11:16.960 NYU, incredibly dangerous down near, what, Washington Square Park over by the Stern Business

00:11:24.720 School, incredibly dangerous.

00:11:26.240 If you're a young Jewish student, you're walking in there, you're going to be torn to shreds, 1.00

00:11:29.200 torn to shreds. 0.96

00:11:30.560 If you're up in Columbia, you're going to be torn to shreds.

00:11:32.220 But how did it get to this point?

00:11:34.040 And how the big donors and Kraft's given this thing about marginalized communities?

00:11:40.040 The marginalized communities think you're the problem.

00:11:44.400 They don't need, they're not going to, what do you mean better educate them?

00:11:46.700 You're going to have a group hug and you're going to explain to them how the world is?

00:11:52.520 What are you not seeing?

00:11:53.940 This is all happy talk.

00:11:55.160 It's happy talk of Kraft wandering around.

00:11:57.800 You underwrote this.

00:11:59.140 Cooperman, you underwrote this.

00:12:01.300 And the other thing they say is, and on Morning Joe, the CNBC, Andrew Ross Sorkin, well, many,

00:12:08.540 many more would want to come forward.

00:12:10.780 But they're scared because their employees and customers could turn on them.

00:12:14.220 Well, what do you think happens to the MAGA every day?

00:12:19.220 You can't be scared.

00:12:20.100 You got to step forward.

00:12:20.940 You either believe in something or you don't believe in it.

00:12:24.440 If you're scared and you're going to curl up, you're going to be destroyed.

00:12:27.340 Hey, this is not going to stop.

00:12:28.620 You underwrote this.

00:12:30.640 You underwrote this.

00:12:32.120 This is, what do you think, the 10 to 12, 15 million, you think they're Jeffersonian 0.69

00:12:36.600 Democrats coming across that border that all you people and all the people on the left

00:12:41.320 are sitting there cheerleading on every, yeah, yeah, these are xenophobe, 0.90

00:12:44.100 white nationalists, all these bad people trying to stop it?

00:12:46.260 No, because we've argued and seen for years what's on that square out there in the commons

00:12:52.940 in Columbia.

00:12:54.220 We've warned you about this for years and years and years, and we stood up and fought it.

00:12:59.320 And the people that did that were vilified.

00:13:03.500 And you think it's going to go away now because you stopped your donations?

00:13:06.400 As I said, it's not stopping your donations.

00:13:08.480 You've got to go on offense.

00:13:09.660 If you don't go on offense, it's eventually going to be over.

00:13:13.660 All the pressure right now to stop the destruction of the Muslim Brotherhood's franchisees,

00:13:19.740 Hamas combat brigades, it's because people are blinking.

00:13:24.380 And the Israelis have laid it out that that is the first order of business they have to 1.00

00:13:29.260 take care of or there'll never be peace.

00:13:30.840 Well, these people don't want peace.

00:13:34.220 Peace is not part of the program.

00:13:36.740 If you want to see how it manifests itself, you want to see how it manifests itself, just

00:13:41.320 look at lower Manhattan.

00:13:43.480 Donald Trump, the one individual that stood up and said, we have to stop this madness or

00:13:48.820 we're going to lose our country.

00:13:50.440 They want to put him in prison.

00:13:52.400 The same progressives of Tish James and Eric Adams and Alvin Bragg and Matthew Colangelo coming

00:14:00.460 from the Eric Holder, Obama, Merrick Garland, Joe Biden, Justice Department is up there arguing

00:14:07.840 the case.

00:14:08.780 These are two sides of the same coin.

00:14:12.200 And don't give me your happy talk.

00:14:13.840 Oh, it just needs education.

00:14:15.160 They're so uneducated.

00:14:16.500 They just don't know.

00:14:16.920 Oh, they know fine.

00:14:19.380 They know fine.

00:14:20.140 You trust me, Kraft, you ought to walk Kraft.

00:14:22.440 Here's what you ought to do today.

00:14:23.800 Get some of you guys, get some of those consultants you have and Kraft, go to the university you

00:14:30.020 graduated from and walk across that lawn and spout that happy talk to them.

00:14:34.400 Let's see what happens.

00:14:35.660 We'll send a camera crew up there.

00:14:38.060 You don't understand.

00:14:39.420 This country is in hanging in the balance and the people that have tried to defend it

00:14:45.440 and have tried to defend you, you've mocked and ridiculed for years.

00:14:49.200 The Trevor Lowden's, the Frank Gaffney's, all these heroes.

00:14:54.500 Back in one moment in the war room.

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00:16:44.800 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:16:47.200 Bannon.

00:16:47.520 No, what you're seeing is the unwinding of the progressive world order up at Columbia

00:16:55.080 and Harvard and Yale.

00:16:56.120 And what you're seeing is the power that still has its grip.

00:17:00.860 It's destroyed our universities, destroyed centers of higher education.

00:17:07.700 It's all propaganda now.

00:17:08.900 I don't remember Cooperman and Kraft coming forward.

00:17:13.840 I missed that.

00:17:14.520 Maybe it was because of everything.

00:17:15.900 The Summer Love, when they've taken over Columbia during BLM, during George Floyd.

00:17:23.020 I forget hearing the big donors there saying how bad that was.

00:17:26.040 I forgot that.

00:17:26.800 I missed that.

00:17:27.620 I'll go back.

00:17:28.420 I'll go back and check.

00:17:29.540 But I kind of missed that.

00:17:30.580 I missed that one.

00:17:31.360 I don't think the donation stopped then, did they?

00:17:33.220 I don't think so.

00:17:35.460 They don't understand that that's what this is.

00:17:38.900 Ben Burquam was there.

00:17:41.300 You saw how dangerous it was.

00:17:42.840 Burquam, I got, and I think there's an insight in here.

00:17:47.820 I was actually more concerned with you, particularly staying around in the evening, or going down

00:17:54.200 to NYU.

00:17:54.960 We have a lot of young people we know at NYU, and we heard that was revving up.

00:17:59.500 I actually was more concerned with you being down there than oftentimes you're on the most

00:18:04.260 dangerous parts of northern Mexico or down in the Darien Gap.

00:18:08.900 That's how dangerous this is. 0.69

00:18:10.860 And those people, the Shriya supremacist, jihadist, anti-American, hate American, they're

00:18:17.480 not looking for a debate.

00:18:18.920 They're not looking for some sort of conversation.

00:18:22.160 They're not looking for dialogue.

00:18:24.400 You notice they're not talking about dialogue.

00:18:26.560 They're past dialogue.

00:18:28.600 And you have to take it for what it is.

00:18:31.280 They're past dialogue.

00:18:32.340 Okay, so what do we do next?

00:18:35.060 Ben Burquam, you were there.

00:18:36.300 Tell me about it.

00:18:38.700 Yeah, no, everything they say, you just basically flip it.

00:18:41.880 So if they say peace, they want war.

00:18:43.740 If they say tolerance, they want violence.

00:18:45.820 They are the exact opposite of what they claim to be.

00:18:48.260 They're the definition of Satan himself.

00:18:50.300 When you look at an angel of light who is pure darkness, that is what this is.

00:18:54.660 This is a battle of good versus evil, and it is pure evil.

00:18:58.440 I'm telling you, you can feel it.

00:18:59.960 When you walk onto the campus of Columbia right now, you feel the spirit of darkness there.

00:19:04.560 You go down to NYU, you feel the spirit of darkness.

00:19:06.900 You go to any college campus across America, and this has been invited in.

00:19:11.000 These pillars of evil have been invited in for 40-plus years.

00:19:15.600 And you're right.

00:19:16.380 These guys weren't saying anything back in BLM.

00:19:18.660 These guys were taking a knee.

00:19:20.000 These guys were bending over.

00:19:21.020 And all you have to do is look at this.

00:19:22.440 This is terrorism.

00:19:23.280 It has gotten the highest levels of our society to bend over and take it when these guys make

00:19:30.400 a demand, even to the point where a college university—I mean, that's what's happened.

00:19:35.720 They didn't have a problem.

00:19:36.980 These guys are so afraid.

00:19:37.180 They didn't have a problem when these were used as the shock troops or the brown shirts

00:19:42.620 in the summer love to take down Trump to surround the White House and actually have

00:19:47.360 the Secret Service take Trump down into the thing.

00:19:49.400 They didn't have any problem at all with that.

00:19:50.740 That's exactly right.

00:19:51.560 And for Robert—I want to—because you're right.

00:19:55.040 If Robert Kraft hasn't read the Bill Ackman, when Bill Ackman put up the money for Harvard

00:20:01.880 to really do a study—because he was shocked.

00:20:03.860 Another—he was shocked.

00:20:05.360 And he did the big study.

00:20:06.440 He had all kind of guys looking at all the DEI programs.

00:20:09.460 And he came back, and he said—he took it on himself.

00:20:11.540 He said, I gave money.

00:20:12.620 I was asleep.

00:20:13.380 I kept underwriting this stuff.

00:20:14.860 I had no earthy idea of what I was doing.

00:20:17.720 I didn't really understand how it had gotten down into the hiring practices of the university.

00:20:22.560 He had never listened to Mark Ruffo.

00:20:24.060 He had never seen what Governor DeSantis and Ruffo were trying to do down at—to break

00:20:28.800 the University of Florida system from having this.

00:20:30.980 They didn't study that.

00:20:31.860 But Bill Ackman about—and one time he had, I don't know, it's like a 5,000-word, looked

00:20:35.840 like a tweet, just went on forever.

00:20:38.860 And in the middle, he says, I came to the realization after all this thing that in these 0.57

00:20:43.200 people in the DEI programs, et cetera, Jews are white. 0.78

00:20:46.440 That was his phrase.

00:20:47.920 And he said that was a big shock to him.

00:20:49.860 Kraft thinks he's going to go into the audience up there.

00:20:52.480 I want you to tell Robert Kraft, the owner of the Patriots and one of the wealthiest guys

00:20:57.480 in the country, I think he's worth $11 billion.

00:21:00.040 If he was to go into that crowd today that you've seen and been up there and try to argue

00:21:04.360 that Jews are marginalized just like these Syria supremacist jihadis think they are, is

00:21:11.380 he going to win that argument?

00:21:12.540 Are they going to have a group hug?

00:21:13.860 Is he going to get some high fives and be invited back, Ben Berkwam?

00:21:19.200 Within a millisecond, he will be shouted down and they will start doing their chants from

00:21:23.800 the river to the sea.

00:21:24.820 Palestine will be free.

00:21:26.160 They want to wipe Israel off the face of the map. 0.96

00:21:28.100 They do not want dialogue.

00:21:29.620 I was there yesterday.

00:21:30.640 As soon as you start asking questions that they don't like, they immediately start shouting

00:21:34.840 you down.

00:21:35.320 And if shouting you down doesn't work, they get violent.

00:21:37.260 That is the MO.

00:21:38.240 That is who these people are.

00:21:39.540 And it works.

00:21:40.340 The reason they do it is because it works.

00:21:42.420 And these are not just college students, like AOC says, practicing getting their voice.

00:21:47.180 These are terrorist organizations that are funded by the left, globalist organizations

00:21:51.840 around the world that are funding the demise of not just America, but the Western world. 0.93

00:21:56.300 If you don't understand that, you're going to get eaten alive. 0.54

00:22:00.400 When you go there. 0.94

00:22:03.180 Let me, Ben, you have been our lead sled dog on all things related to the border.

00:22:09.140 You've spent most of your time the last couple of years, not at rallies, not election fraud,

00:22:13.280 not at the university.

00:22:13.980 You've spent some time they were going to free you up, but you're literally the investigative

00:22:16.820 reporter on the border.

00:22:18.280 What you've seen come across the border, is that not one of the big underwriters of personnel

00:22:25.680 of the types of folks you're seeing on the commons at Columbia or down at NYU last night,

00:22:30.920 sir?

00:22:31.180 Oh, yeah.

00:22:32.600 Yeah, I know.

00:22:33.240 No, we're importing a generation of people that hate this country.

00:22:36.840 We're doing it on purpose, coming directly out of Washington, D.C.

00:22:39.900 And all you have to do is go to any border on our southern border and our northern border

00:22:43.700 now, and you'll see it.

00:22:45.000 We are inviting in the people that will terrorize this country for decades to come.

00:22:49.200 And you go to the college.

00:22:50.940 And you mentioned it, Steve.

00:22:51.920 I want to touch on this point.

00:22:53.320 I feel much more in danger when I'm on a college campus in America than I do when I'm in most

00:22:58.720 third world countries that I go to, whether that's Mexico or Colombia, the border of Venezuela,

00:23:03.200 or coming up through Guatemala.

00:23:04.900 I feel you can sense the immediate danger that you're in in these places because there is

00:23:10.640 no compromise.

00:23:11.280 With the cartel, there's a level.

00:23:12.800 It's like the mafia in America.

00:23:17.100 There's a code.

00:23:18.380 The cartel has that same code.

00:23:20.200 You don't mess with their business.

00:23:21.160 They don't typically mess with you.

00:23:22.480 There is no code with these people. 1.00

00:23:23.880 They are pure, demonic, evil people that want to destroy us. 1.00

00:23:27.000 They want to kill us. 1.00

00:23:27.900 They want to destroy our ideology, but ultimately they want to kill us. 0.99

00:23:30.600 And when they have that opportunity, they'll do it.

00:23:33.940 I want to hit rewind on that for a second, and I'm going to be a little, I'm going to

00:23:37.200 have to keep you past 1030.

00:23:38.400 I know you've got to get back into the courtroom.

00:23:42.440 I want you to rewind that.

00:23:44.740 You and Oscar Blue Ramirez in the last three or four years have been in some of the most

00:23:50.140 dangerous places on earth.

00:23:52.320 What's more dangerous?

00:23:53.240 Some of the places you've been to and exposed yourself to, or the Ivy League University in

00:23:59.240 upper Manhattan of Columbia or NYU down near Washington Square Park?

00:24:06.160 Again, they're equivalent to me.

00:24:07.740 It's the same evil, but I'll tell you that the threat I feel when I walk on those places

00:24:12.680 is immediate.

00:24:13.920 You know, when you've got bullets flying at you in the middle of the Darien Gap, yes,

00:24:16.860 there's danger there.

00:24:18.220 You duck down, and then the threat's over.

00:24:20.500 But in these places, the danger never goes away.

00:24:23.100 When you're on that campus, in particular, if you're a conservative student on that campus

00:24:26.500 or a Christian or a Jewish student on these campuses, the danger never goes away. 0.98

00:24:30.660 When you're down in the Darien Gap, you go from danger to danger, and the soft spots

00:24:35.080 in between.

00:24:35.860 Here, the danger's always there.

00:24:37.300 That's the difference.

00:24:40.220 And this is why they closed, this is why they closed, basically closed the university, and

00:24:44.000 they're going to do it by remote for the Jewish students and for the Christian students.

00:24:47.820 Let's go ahead and play the, let's play his cold open on Hillary Clinton. 0.99

00:24:51.240 I'm going to get Ben Frey has to go back in the courtroom.

00:24:54.240 The kind of threats that you hear coming out of Donald Trump should scare every American,

00:25:00.800 because with an authoritarian, you never know what side of the bed they'll wake up on.

00:25:05.120 You never know who they're going to be upset with today.

00:25:07.820 You never know if somebody, you know, basically bribes them by giving business to a relative

00:25:13.460 or, you know, some other gift that they will try to destroy one business to advantage another.

00:25:19.500 You just never know because they don't believe in the rule of law.

00:25:23.200 They don't believe in institutions.

00:25:25.900 And therefore, if you give them a chance to be more unfettered than he was in his first

00:25:31.760 term when he was trying to figure out what he could do, and he had actually some people

00:25:36.100 around who were restraining him, that is all going to be gone.

00:25:40.260 If he ever gets back near the White House again, it will be like having a dictator.

00:25:45.980 And I don't say that lightly, but go back and read Project 2025.

00:25:50.880 They're going to fire everybody.

00:25:52.640 Oh, the person in, you know, the government who knows about what may be the next pandemic,

00:25:58.460 get rid of him.

00:25:59.200 He didn't vote for me or I don't, you know, like the way he looks.

00:26:02.100 I mean, just think about the chaos and the instability that we got through with COVID,

00:26:10.820 although it cost hundreds of thousands more lives than it should have because he was such

00:26:17.260 an inept leader when we needed somebody to really grab hold and guide us through this

00:26:25.020 unprecedented global pandemic. 0.95

00:26:28.420 What is clear is in this case, Trump is right.

00:26:32.420 I mean, this is an embarrassment.

00:26:34.580 I mean, the fact that we are actually talking about this case being presented in a New York

00:26:39.620 courtroom leaves me in utter disbelief.

00:26:43.360 I mean, the arguments today did, in fact, capture all the problems here.

00:26:49.360 You know, you had this misdemeanor under state law that had run out.

00:26:53.420 This is going back to related to the 2016 election.

00:26:57.700 And they zapped it back into life by alleging that there was a campaign finance violation

00:27:04.220 under the federal laws that doesn't exist.

00:27:07.680 The Department of Justice doesn't view it this way.

00:27:10.120 But on top of that, you've got these tough factual issues that were laid out well by the

00:27:14.540 Trump team saying someone else designated this as a legal expense.

00:27:18.860 And he was actually paid far in excess of this because of this was a legal account.

00:27:24.940 But also keep in mind, this is what Hillary Clinton's people did. 0.97

00:27:29.360 You know, remember when they funded the Steele dossier, which they denied to reporters, they

00:27:35.080 put it as a legal expense.

00:27:36.820 And then they fought the eventual fine that they received from the federal government saying,

00:27:42.800 but it was a legal expense.

00:27:44.460 But now you've got some of the same Democrats supporting this bizarre theory.

00:27:50.040 The same lawlessness you see up at Columbia is the same lawlessness you see down the courtroom.

00:27:55.380 This is how the progressives roll.

00:27:57.020 There's nothing about the rule of law.

00:27:58.720 There's no upholding of the customs or traditions of the United States of America, the customs

00:28:03.720 and traditions of the Judeo-Christian West.

00:28:05.800 None of it.

00:28:07.060 None of it.

00:28:08.340 This thing's beyond a joke.

00:28:09.460 You've got Hillary sitting there. 1.00

00:28:10.700 Oh, look at this.

00:28:11.920 He's going to be a dictator.

00:28:14.140 You're going to get pounded on this every single day.

00:28:17.220 Okay, we'll take a short commercial break.

00:28:18.480 Ben's got to bounce.

00:28:19.300 He's got to get back in the courtroom, but I'm holding him for a second.

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00:30:06.880 Okay, let's go back to Lower Manhattan.

00:30:09.200 For one hour, the trial has not started.

00:30:11.500 They've been in a firefight inside on this gag order.

00:30:15.840 As Mike Davis told you, a totally unconstitutional gag order.

00:30:19.580 Ben Burquam, I mean, President Trump's defense team and the judge are going at it here.

00:30:25.680 It's not even the prosecution anymore.

00:30:27.340 It's the judge, right?

00:30:28.860 It's defense who are saying, hey, President Trump tweets or puts true socials out 24-7 all the time.

00:30:34.540 This is what he does.

00:30:35.800 This is a big part of his campaign.

00:30:37.700 And the judge is getting angrier and angrier.

00:30:41.080 Your thoughts, sir?

00:30:41.960 Well, first thought is I'm looking at an illegal alien bus drive across right in front of me as we speak, heading over to the ICE office.

00:30:51.800 So that's happening every single day down here.

00:30:53.940 And the second part is this is you play that Hillary Clinton thing. 0.98

00:30:58.100 Every time you play a Hillary Clinton piece, you should call that a gag order because the entire audience of the war room is throwing up in their mouth. 0.99

00:31:07.640 These people are the exact thing that they claim.

00:31:11.680 It's just like we're talking about at Columbia.

00:31:13.640 They claim that we're these things.

00:31:15.220 They are professional projectionists.

00:31:17.240 They are the ones trying to tear down justice.

00:31:19.400 And I just want to point out what it says on this building behind me.

00:31:22.460 Equal and exact justice for all men by Jefferson.

00:31:26.440 That is what we are fighting for in this country.

00:31:28.860 And that is what the left is taking away. 1.00

00:31:30.600 And if you don't see that happening, you're either blind or ignorant or you're just a liar. 0.99

00:31:35.780 A lot of people are simply behind it. 0.99

00:31:37.560 Hillary Clinton knows exactly what she's doing. 0.99

00:31:38.980 She's laughing.

00:31:39.880 She's laughing as she says that because she knows they are the ones that are doing that to the American people.

00:31:47.060 Well, this is about the like the donors and others, these progressives that have been underwriting this mess and now realize is blowing back on you.

00:31:53.980 I call it the DEI civil war.

00:31:55.480 That's what you're having right now.

00:31:57.240 And they have willful blindness.

00:31:59.000 Andrew Rourke Sorkin said it.

00:32:00.560 Some are so scared that their employees and or customers are going to turn on them.

00:32:07.220 And they're taking the coward's way out.

00:32:09.260 If you don't stand in the breach right now, this is a moment of clarity for this country.

00:32:14.840 We're having a great awakening.

00:32:17.200 Part of the great awakening is the great unmasking.

00:32:19.460 You're seeing exactly who's on the side of the American Republic.

00:32:22.840 And you're going to see exactly who's on the side of destroying the American Republic.

00:32:27.680 Simple.

00:32:28.060 There's no middle ground here.

00:32:29.960 You're going to have to choose a side.

00:32:31.580 OK, we're going to and those don't will force you to choose a side.

00:32:35.500 But this is what this is what this fight's all about.

00:32:37.660 Yes, sir.

00:32:39.520 This is gangrene of our country, Steve.

00:32:41.680 And the longer we wait, the more fatal it becomes.

00:32:44.080 You got to cut that limb off.

00:32:45.340 You got to you got to cut this cancer out of our society.

00:32:48.080 And these people are afraid of it.

00:32:49.960 The truth is, every single day they don't stand up.

00:32:53.160 They cower.

00:32:53.820 They give these people more leverage.

00:32:55.660 They embolden these people and eventually you won't be able to stand up.

00:32:59.400 It is it's now or never for this nation.

00:33:00.960 It's 2024 or never for this nation.

00:33:02.980 This is why a lot I'm getting, as you can imagine, given some of the things you've seen in social media, I'm taking a lot of calls of people saying, Steve, you got to back off.

00:33:13.560 You got to back off.

00:33:14.380 You just go.

00:33:14.660 No, we're not backing off Johnson.

00:33:16.940 Johnson.

00:33:17.880 Johnson gave the forces of darkness one of the biggest victories they've ever had.

00:33:23.320 The southern border, what's plowing up here through the southern border is sitting there in the on the commons at Columbia.

00:33:31.240 It's what it's what's a person of persecuting Trump and lower Manhattan.

00:33:36.020 Johnson gave him that win.

00:33:37.020 I'm never going to back off that.

00:33:38.420 Matt and the war on posse is not going to back off it.

00:33:41.280 And if it's too hard for some people, that's fine.

00:33:43.880 And President Trump, President Trump's got enough burden on his shoulders.

00:33:46.940 I realize when President Trump comes out and says, hey, Johnson's doing a good job.

00:33:49.440 He's got to focus on what he's got right there because they're trying to throw him in prison for 20 years on made up charges.

00:33:54.560 OK, Johnson doesn't have his back.

00:33:57.820 Jordan, these guys haven't lifted a finger to protect.

00:34:00.080 There should be a mass criminal conspiracy investigation going right on.

00:34:03.960 You've got to go on offense.

00:34:04.940 There's been no offense to support President Trump.

00:34:07.380 None.

00:34:07.780 And for those people out there leaning on your rakes, thinking, hey, we got this.

00:34:12.240 We're going to win and see the polling every this thing is in the balance.

00:34:16.120 And the the the campaign, we need more bodega runs.

00:34:20.740 We need a bodega run like every other day.

00:34:22.980 We need Trump, a show of force, the people that love him, the people that support him.

00:34:27.480 So you know what?

00:34:28.880 The the commons in Columbia have the radical Sharia jihadists. 1.00

00:34:33.780 Trump's a couple of blocks away, goes into Harlem.

00:34:35.980 They're five and six deep people of color, five and six deep cheering for Trump because they know that in in 17, 18, particularly 19, we were at peace and prosperity and they were making a good living and could live.

00:34:49.880 They understand that with all remember, they are inundated and bombarded 24 hours a day with nothing but Trump hate.

00:34:58.660 Read the New York Times.

00:35:00.100 Look at MSC.

00:35:00.820 We look at their local news.

00:35:01.880 They are inundated.

00:35:02.780 They are swamped.

00:35:03.700 Every they can't breathe unless they have Trump hate forced down their throats and they stand seven deep loving the guy.

00:35:12.960 OK, that's the campaign.

00:35:14.780 Trump's not running against Mershani's running against Biden.

00:35:17.120 And those people right there have his back and the enemies on the commons on the commons and in the faculty Senate and in the in the administration of Columbia University.

00:35:28.020 And for Kraft and for Cooperman, turn your fire and purge the faculty, purge the faculty and purge and fire every administrator there that's tolerated this.

00:35:37.900 You're not going to be safe until that happens because they want to destroy Israel and they want to destroy the Jews in America. 0.90

00:35:46.720 And people better take this seriously because every day the cancer is not cut out.

00:35:51.900 It metastasizes.

00:35:53.240 And the one guy that stood up for you is down there in the who's gal, quite frankly, supported by guys like you that supported all this madness, supported D.E.I.

00:36:02.080 C.R.T., E.S.G., Larry Fink and that crowd.

00:36:05.420 That's why Trump's down there.

00:36:07.400 It's it's this is obscene.

00:36:09.440 You're either on the side of the American Republic or you're against her.

00:36:13.760 OK.

00:36:14.280 And right now, there's no in between.

00:36:16.840 There's no in between.

00:36:17.760 What did Jesus say?

00:36:18.580 If you're lukewarm, you're going to get spit out.

00:36:20.900 You can't be lukewarm in this.

00:36:22.020 You've got to choose a side.

00:36:23.180 Ben Berkwan's been he's been from the Darien Gap where they start coming through all the way up through the cartel Tories and all the danger of the of the Rio Grande Valley.

00:36:31.840 In South Texas, which Hispanic citizens are supporting Trump because they're sitting there going, I can't take anymore. 1.00

00:36:37.740 Just like the people in Harlem, they can't take it anymore.

00:36:41.100 They're being destroyed as citizens of this country.

00:36:43.860 And Trump's the one person that stood up for him.

00:36:46.300 And Hillary Clinton all puffed up like Jabba the Hutt. 1.00

00:36:49.480 She's over there like Jabba the Hutt. 0.99

00:36:51.320 You know, oh, he's a dictator.

00:36:52.600 This is going to be terrible. 1.00

00:36:53.600 Screw you. 1.00

00:36:54.200 Get out of here. 1.00

00:36:54.800 You got defeated.

00:36:56.120 I'm so glad I had a tiny role in that, that you and Garland are gone.

00:37:00.120 Right.

00:37:00.320 That Garland's on the Supreme Court and you're gone.

00:37:02.820 Ben Berkwan, give me some summary thoughts, brother.

00:37:05.320 You've been the hero.

00:37:06.060 Been everywhere on this before you bought the the most dangerous place ever.

00:37:10.280 You're about to walk in is that courtroom because they're trying to send Trump to prison for 20 years, sir.

00:37:17.360 Yeah, man, that is so true.

00:37:19.760 The the real mafia in America today is the Bar Association.

00:37:22.380 And you have as American citizens, general American public have no recourse.

00:37:27.260 You are eaten by the machine and these guys are used and these D.A.'s are used to protect these demons, these vipers that are on these college campuses.

00:37:36.440 If we don't deal with this right now as a nation, these guys are going to take this country over and you're not going to be able to deal with it.

00:37:42.580 You're going to have to deal with them screaming at you.

00:37:44.500 You're going to have to deal with them calling you names.

00:37:46.200 You're going to have to deal with them attacking you. 0.99

00:37:47.680 And we have to say, shut up, sit down. 1.00

00:37:49.300 We're done with it. 0.76

00:37:50.080 And the adults of this nation and the warriors of this nation have to take this nation back or else it's gone.

00:37:56.620 That's it.

00:37:58.180 You don't you don't deal with it now.

00:38:00.340 And this is the greatest gift that Trump has given this country.

00:38:03.040 He could have gone to Mar-a-Lago and gone away and allowed us to deal with this without his leadership.

00:38:09.140 He had the courage to come back.

00:38:11.680 There was no necessity for him to come back.

00:38:13.600 He had the courage to come back after they stole the election from him and tried to destroy his presidency and came back to destroy his business and put him in prison.

00:38:23.060 And for doing that, they're trying to put him in prison for 700 years.

00:38:26.360 This is why we either take care of this now or the country is going to be over.

00:38:31.480 This is the inflection point.

00:38:33.080 We've got to take care of this now.

00:38:34.500 And that's why do not think for one second that this is a sealed deal about November.

00:38:42.140 Because every day you can see what they're trying to do in golf Trump and try to take him off the campaign trail and bleed him out.

00:38:48.180 And also, no offense, he's getting some terrible advice.

00:38:51.100 You know, seeing Johnson and seeing these people and, you know, MAGA wants MAGA.

00:38:56.600 MAGA wants America first and they want American citizens first.

00:38:59.800 We have to have President Trump's back.

00:39:01.260 The first thing he's got to get on the road and run for mayor of New York City.

00:39:06.280 Like he did the other day in the bodega.

00:39:08.360 That's a show of force that puts the fear of God in them.

00:39:11.660 Because they understand the streets of New York and the people in New York are on Trump's side.

00:39:17.680 Ben Burkwam, what's your social media?

00:39:19.020 Where do people go?

00:39:22.080 At Ben Burkwam on all social.

00:39:24.460 FrontlineAmerica.com.

00:39:25.620 America'svoice.news.

00:39:26.480 And I have so much content.

00:39:27.880 Wait till you see it, Steve.

00:39:28.640 When you talk about it, you highlighted the fact the legal immigrants that came in, the interviews I got yesterday from people from Colombia, from India, from Africa, from China.

00:39:36.760 All legal immigrants that are on the Trump side.

00:39:39.100 Wait till you see these interviews versus the radical, deranged left that hate this country and hate you and hate the society that has given the prosperity that we have to the world.

00:39:48.440 God bless our veterans.

00:39:49.500 I had one I was just speaking to a minute ago.

00:39:51.440 Our freedom comes from their blood.

00:39:53.500 And, you know, that's what we're fighting for.

00:39:55.520 If we don't do it, we're going to lose this nation.

00:39:57.360 But we're going to continue to show it.

00:39:58.980 At Ben Burkwam, I'm going to head back in the courtroom and bring you the latest when I get out.

00:40:03.800 Real America's Voice has now got a media pass being in the courtroom, so they're going to frickin' frack it today.

00:40:08.340 Ben, we'll talk to you this afternoon.

00:40:09.500 God bless.

00:40:11.080 Yes, sir.

00:40:11.600 All right.

00:40:13.920 You know, we try to stay on the news here 24-7 and signal, not noise.

00:40:19.480 There's something that was bugging me for the longest time, and it took Jackie Tarbaroff up in New York.

00:40:25.060 Jackie, thank you for joining us today.

00:40:26.560 And we're going to get Donna Berksham from Minnesota on in a second. 1.00

00:40:29.840 But you wrote this piece.

00:40:31.020 If Real America's Voice can get it up.

00:40:33.080 What was bugging me were these beautiful state flags, these beautiful state flags that talk so much about America, just artistically classical and beautiful, being replaced by these things that were so hideous and so ugly.

00:40:47.720 And they had – there was something bugging me about it that I just couldn't put my finger on.

00:40:53.340 And then your article came out today about the stars.

00:40:56.040 I'm going to take it – I've got three minutes here.

00:40:57.600 We're going to hold you through the break.

00:40:59.040 Walk me through this article of yours, this piece of what Donna Bergstrom's analysis and yours is telling us.

00:41:06.520 So, as of now, 17 cities and states have either approved a new flag or have proposed a new flag design, erasing the five-point American star and replacing it with an eight-point Islamic symbol.

00:41:23.620 This cannot be a coincidence.

00:41:25.580 Something nefarious is underway.

00:41:28.080 This is a trend that is happening throughout America.

00:41:30.760 Hold it.

00:41:34.060 Go back to this for a second.

00:41:35.180 I want to just pull the camera back and tell me what you're talking about.

00:41:37.520 Eight-star, five-star flag, five-stars American, eight-stars.

00:41:41.900 What is it?

00:41:42.680 So, walk me through it.

00:41:43.660 I know it's happening in Utah.

00:41:44.800 I think it's happening in Minnesota. 0.92

00:41:46.040 But people are going to go, Jackie, you're crazier than normal.

00:41:49.860 It's just a star, right?

00:41:51.820 What do you – put down the coffee.

00:41:54.420 Put down your Warpath coffee.

00:41:56.440 And so, what is the big deal?

00:41:59.060 It's a huge deal.

00:42:00.120 What unites us in America is our freedom.

00:42:03.040 And the five-point American star dating back to 1776, Betsy Ross, is very unique to America.

00:42:11.820 What is very unique to Islamic art, culture, and history is the eight-point star.

00:42:17.440 In the Quran, on verse 69, 17, it says,

00:42:21.720 The day of judgment on that day, eight mighty angels will bear the throne of your Lord above them.

00:42:26.920 This is very specific.

00:42:28.060 The eight-point octagon is featured in Iranian military intelligence flags in Tehran, in the Turkish – Turkic states, as well as Azerbaijan.

00:42:41.360 This is prevalent throughout Islamic art, culture, and history, the eight-point octagon.

00:42:48.400 And our flags are being replaced, and they are featuring the eight-point octagon.

00:42:54.320 Okay, hang on for a second.

00:42:57.500 I've got a former Marine, a lieutenant colonel, who's going to join us.

00:43:00.860 Jackie Torberoff and Lieutenant Colonel Donna Bergstrom retire.

00:43:05.240 She's now deputy chair of the Republican Party of the great state of Minnesota.

00:43:09.700 They're going to come back to us after the break.

00:43:12.120 Until that time – I've worked a long time.

00:43:14.400 In fact, we're a couple of weeks late, if you remember, on the end of the dollar empire, the fifth free installment, the end of economic freedom.

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00:45:11.520 Okay, I want to go to the deputy chair of the Minnesota GOP, Lieutenant Colonel, retired Lieutenant Colonel Donna Bergstrom.

00:45:20.500 Colonel, thank you for joining us.

00:45:22.620 Walk me through.

00:45:23.100 You've been on top of this for a while.

00:45:27.120 What had struck me, what I couldn't figure out was why were states like Utah and Minnesota, and they have these magnificent state flags that they've had for over 100 years.

00:45:37.620 Just beautiful, fantastic.

00:45:39.600 All of a sudden, why are we getting all these weird designs?

00:45:42.080 And the designs were bugging me, and it wasn't until I read Jackie's piece based upon your research that I realized that star was bugging me, and I was starting to see it everywhere.

00:45:53.160 Walk me through what – why did you come up with this?

00:45:56.160 What led you to this, and what does this mean?

00:45:58.100 Well, thank you, Steve, for having me on, and thank you for having this conversation today.

00:46:04.900 I appreciate Jacqueline reaching out to me and getting us in this conversation.

00:46:09.300 I will say to you that our legislators back in 2023 passed guidance that allowed the governor and others to appoint 13 members to change the flag, which they said was needing to be changed because it was racist and out of date.

00:46:27.940 And this struck me as odd.

00:46:30.140 It was one of the legislative policy changes that were happening so quickly in our legislators that it sort of flew under the radar.

00:46:38.720 But once we got our eyes on it, the chairman of the Republican Party, David Han and myself, took a look at the legislation, and we said, why are we changing this flag?

00:46:48.820 It's beautiful.

00:46:49.480 It's the flag that we – primarily the same design that we used in the Civil War when Minnesota was fighting in our Civil War, and it's got beautiful history to it.

00:47:01.720 For myself as a veteran, I look at that flag, and I see our history, our commitment to this nation.

00:47:08.360 As a Native American, I look at that, and I see myself on there as a Native American.

00:47:13.000 Some argue that it's the Native American writing off in defeat.

00:47:16.240 I say it's a Native American sharing the land with our immigrant culture here, our insignificant dates on there.

00:47:22.960 There's so much history and culture in that flag that it just struck us as very odd why this would have to fly under the radar.

00:47:32.080 It just really became very curious to us.

00:47:34.700 Why are we changing the flag in this way?

00:47:37.580 Why aren't we giving Minnesotans a voice, letting our legislators help us design the flag or vote on the new flag change?

00:47:45.080 And so, again, you start down these culture – cancel culture rabbit holes, and you soon find out there's just a lot more to it than what's at the surface.

00:47:56.420 And so, what I think the legislators sort of hid under this blanket of, oh, it's a racist and odd-of-date flag really had a lot more to it.

00:48:05.800 And I really don't want to take any credit for any of the background research because I think the article really was Jacqueline in promoting this.

00:48:14.820 And what we have found out, though, consequently, the state of Minnesota, is that we've had other communities and states and organizations reach out to us and say, we're having the same thing happen in our state.

00:48:28.300 Do you know what's happening?

00:48:29.700 Do you know why we're canceling culture?

00:48:31.620 Do you know why we're erasing people such as the Native American from our flags and this beautiful history that we have in our flag culture?

00:48:40.800 And so, you start going down this rabbit hole and you realize, I think there's something more to it.

00:48:46.500 And I don't have a lot of evidence.

00:48:49.220 But truly, if this is what's going to be shaping our American culture going forward, I would think that it's just fair that we have a conversation about it, that we let people know these are some things that we're noticing.

00:49:01.500 And where is it that we can step in and change it, stop it, or absolutely just make people aware of it?

00:49:08.540 There are no coincidences.

00:49:11.720 There's no coincidences.

00:49:12.280 This article, there are no coincidences.

00:49:13.920 But I want to go back and use Minnesota particularly as an example.

00:49:17.980 When you go back to the Civil War, Minnesota sent such incredible manpower into the Civil War for what was then, I think, the most far western state, at least until I think Nevada was brought in because of the silver mines in 1863 or something.

00:49:35.420 But Minnesota, you're about as far away from the action as you could.

00:49:38.600 And you've sent tens of thousands of volunteers down there.

00:49:42.000 That flag, tell me, how did it exactly, you said it was behind the cover of night, was the legislature not part of this?

00:49:48.240 Was it not a referendum?

00:49:49.540 Did it not bring in people, average citizens, to comment on the beauty and historical nature of the original flag and then give design things?

00:49:58.180 Because the flag, the things that's replaced these flags or proposed to replace these flags are so god-awful.

00:50:04.840 It's kind of mind-boggling that they could be used as alternatives for really, your flag is a work of art.

00:50:12.320 How could they have taken a work of art and come up with those?

00:50:14.960 Can you just take a minute and just walk us through what the process was?

00:50:18.820 Yeah, and that's, you know, Class A head scratcher, as we say in the Marine Corps.

00:50:22.680 I don't know how they came up with this.

00:50:24.760 And they wrote the legislation in a way that said in 2024, if nobody brings a proposal to change it or there's such language like that, that it will become the flag.

00:50:36.320 So it was a negative approval instead of a positive approval.

00:50:39.560 And if you know, here in Minnesota, the Democrat, which we call the Democratic Farm and Labor Party, the DFL, controls the House, the Senate, and the governor's mansion.

00:50:50.620 So what happened was they're not going to allow, even if we did try to bring legislation forward that said we don't want to change our flag in this way, they are not going to allow us to do that.

00:51:01.860 So really what, just backing up and to answer your question, the legislation was passed that there would be a commission, a state flag commission put together.

00:51:11.700 Governor got to appoint some folks and some of our other commissions appointed folks.

00:51:17.440 We had two minority members, Senator Steve Jaskowski and Representative Byron Olson, who were on there, and they were not allowed to vote.

00:51:28.360 Our Secretary of State was also on the commission, who is a Democrat.

00:51:32.760 And so it seemed really pretty stacked against us.

00:51:36.140 And again, it was a negative approval that if nobody brought objection to it, that it was going to become the state flag on May 11th.

00:51:43.220 And that, again, how do we get this changed?

00:51:46.180 That's what we're trying to do.

00:51:47.620 The Republican Party in Minnesota launched a Save the Flag campaign.

00:51:51.460 It's on our Minnesota GOP website.

00:51:54.060 And we've gotten lots of good response from that.

00:51:56.840 People across the nation, other organizations, like I have said, really reached out to us and said, we want to help you in this way.

00:52:03.340 And how can we help you?

00:52:04.540 And we're really asking people to contact their legislators in the state of Minnesota and even the governor and say, we don't like what we're seeing here.

00:52:12.260 We want to have a flag that represents Minnesota in a way that represents what Minnesotas are thinking at this time.

00:52:20.960 Okay.

00:52:21.440 Can you hang on for one second?

00:52:22.680 And Jackie, hang on.

00:52:23.540 We're going to hold you through a break.

00:52:25.060 I want to get more than 17 examples or 18 examples of what's happening around the country on this.

00:52:31.880 Very disturbing.

00:52:33.180 As I think she called it, a cultural coup d'etat.

00:52:36.420 We're not going to let that happen here, obviously.

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Bannon's War Room - April 23, 2024

Episode 3557： Billionaires Underwrite The Protests On College Campuses

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