Stephen K. Maan is joined by Jim Rickards to discuss the latest in the MBS saga, including the possibility of an assassination attempt on the Saudi crown prince, MBS bin Abdulaziz, and what it means for the future of the country.
00:01:37.000You've become an audience favorite in your analysis of the global economy macro, particularly geopolitics.
00:01:46.000What about this attempted or maybe not attempted, at least rumored enough that the Saudi Armed Forces and intelligence services had to put out an official denial that there was an assassination attempt on MBS last night in which first reports I heard up to 10 security guards were killed or injured in the process.
00:02:05.000What would happen geopolitically given that I think Netanyahu is calling their bluff and heading into Rafa?
00:02:12.000What do you think geopolitically would happen to the world right now?
00:02:16.000The author of Strategic Intelligence, the great monthly newsletter, sir.
00:02:22.000Well, the first rule of intelligence analysis is if the government is denying something, it's probably true.
00:02:27.000Not automatically, but the good chance that there was some kind of mini rebellion, attempted assassination, et cetera.
00:02:36.000Bearing in mind that King Faisal was assassinated in the, I believe, the 1970s, but some time ago.
00:02:42.000But there was an assassination of a king not all that long ago.
00:02:46.000The Saudi Arabian monarchy is very inherently unstable.
00:02:51.000Every king so far, when I say so far, I'm going back to the 1930s, was, well, there's Abdullah bin Saud, who was the founder of the kingdom.
00:02:59.000But every king since then has been one of his sons.
00:03:02.000And I don't know exactly how many sons he had, but 30 or 40, maybe more.
00:03:06.000So you've got this huge crowd of brothers.
00:03:09.000But they're all, a lot of them are half brothers, depending on the wife, because they can have, they have polygamy.
00:03:14.000So, but there are certain groups of four or five or six who had the same mother.
00:03:20.000So they sort of, there are some full brothers, but then a whole bunch of half brothers.
00:03:24.000So they have their own cliques inside this royal family.
00:03:27.000So the reason I'm explaining this is that this is not like a linear succession.
00:03:31.000This has been brother to brother to brother, not father to son, as in the, say, the British royal family.
00:03:38.000And there are cliques among these brothers.
00:03:41.000So, so MBS is the first, he's the crown prince.
00:03:45.000He's not the king, but he's effectively the ruler because his father is not, you know, kind of exerting that much power.
00:03:50.000He is the first member of the third generation.
00:03:55.000He is, he is a grandson of, of Abdul bin Saud.
00:03:59.000So, so, but there are other brothers like, yeah, why him?
00:04:03.000You know, what about my son, et cetera?
00:04:05.000So there's a, there's a potential rival.
00:04:08.000Remember, MBS basically rounded up a large group of the royal family and a lot of the Saudi oligarchs, maybe not royals, but extremely rich, took them to the Ritz Hotel and hang them by their feet and kind of beat them until they gave up between a third and a half of their wealth.
00:04:38.000His other half brother, I think was blown up, partially blown up by a terrorist attack.
00:04:42.000Hey, Jim, just hang on for one second.
00:04:44.000I've got, we finally tracked down MTG.
00:04:46.000Congressman Green, of course, all the shows, all the morning shows, all the political shows are focused on the timing of your motion to vacate.
00:04:56.000Of course, you had a two hour meeting, I think, with Johnson yesterday, which I don't think, you know, it's your struggle session, but I don't think it shows particularly well on his position when he's got to spend two hours with a rebel like yourself.
00:05:09.000Can you give us an update of what's going on?
00:05:11.000Yes, absolutely, Steve, and thank you for having me on the show today.
00:05:15.000After I left the meeting yesterday, I went out to the press and I said, I really don't have any comments to give.
00:05:22.000We had a long discussion and I, you know, expressed my resolve, how I've been patient.
00:05:43.000You know, I didn't give my demands out publicly, but somehow they've gotten leaked all over the press today.
00:05:50.000Went in simply asking for four simple things.
00:05:55.000The easiest one that we can ask from our Republican elected speaker is that he obeyed the Hastert rule, which means no bills are brought to the floor unless the majority of the majority, which is the majority of Republicans, support it.
00:06:10.000And that's it. It's very simple that that goes to my next request.
00:06:15.000No more funding for Ukraine, no funding for Ukraine, period.
00:06:50.000We are fed up with the weaponized government, the weaponized Department of Justice that is being used as Joe Biden's campaign arm.
00:06:57.000We saw special counsel Robert Mueller.
00:06:59.000We saw that witch hunt against President Trump and the lies of Russian collusion.
00:07:03.000And now we've seen it again with Jack Smith, who with the FBI tampering with evidence and completing setting, completely setting the stage for a fake trial and fake prosecution against President Trump.
00:07:17.000And now the American people are being forced to pay for the Department of Justice and the special counsel Jack Smith.
00:07:24.000I want the entire special counsel defunding and I want it to end.
00:07:29.000And I think our Republican speaker can make that happen.
00:07:31.000And I think our Republican conference can make that happen because Donald Trump is our Republican presidential nominee.
00:07:38.000You know, the press and the Democrats didn't want Hunter Biden's laptop out when when Joe Biden was the presidential nominee and he was running for president.
00:07:47.000And so I think it's an easy case to make.
00:08:12.000And that is how it should be done in Congress.
00:08:15.000Now, if if Speaker Johnson can't get those bills passed with Chuck Schumer, we aren't going to have an omnibus that Chuck Schumer wrote rammed down our throat.
00:08:55.000You've got to have the hassle rule majority majority.
00:08:58.000But you've asked for no funding of Ukraine, total shutdown of the special counsel and everything related to Jack Smith.
00:09:05.000And I think that would roll through Colangelo and what's happening in New York.
00:09:08.000And you've asked you're basically saying you've got to commit now to shut the government down at midnight on 30 September of this year, you know, 30 days before an election.
00:09:17.000So the reason your demands were out, he leaked them immediately to show, oh, she's so crazy.
00:09:23.000Here's what she's asking for. Understanding he'll never be able to give up that to you because that would make you essentially speaker and not Hakeem Jeffries.
00:09:30.000What day are we going to call what day are we calling the vote?
00:09:33.000So just just so I can move the ball forward, because I agree with all these and I get about 20 others, including he's got to deny what he what he's going to unwind and go back to the pre McCarthy days.
00:09:44.000Even Kevin McCarthy gave us the accountability and the and the transparency.
00:09:49.000He told the donors Sunday night he's going to undo that. So given this and if he does this, then you're the speaker.
00:09:55.000You're the speaker. If he goes on the motion vacate, Hakeem Jeffries tells in 60 minutes he's the speaker.
00:10:00.000What day, what hour do you plan now to call the motion vacate?
00:10:05.000Well, Steve, you you're you're nailing the subject to the wall.
00:10:08.000And this is what war room and this is what people all over the country are screaming for.
00:10:12.000They want to see this vote because this vote will expose the unit party.
00:10:16.000I've walked into Johnson's office yesterday and I'm going back at 1230 with very simple demands.
00:10:22.000The easiest, easiest things to ask for.
00:10:25.000And I want to hear his answer today at 1230, Steve, because that that will really tell us.
00:10:31.000Is it Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi who came out and endorsed Mike Johnson?
00:10:37.000Are they running our Republican controlled House of Representatives?
00:10:41.000Are we going to pull it back and go back to Republican control with the majority of the majority?
00:10:46.000Are we actually going to stand up and fight for President Trump this time?
00:10:50.000Because Republicans didn't do it last time, Steve.
00:12:14.000That's the little chitter chatter going around Washington, D.C. right now.
00:12:18.000That's the chitter chatter going on in the inner circles that is trying to divide me away from President Trump.
00:12:24.000You know, I fight for President Trump harder in Washington, D.C. than anybody.
00:12:29.000But everybody right now is trying to pretend like there's a problem between us.
00:12:33.000And I'm going to tell you right now there is not.
00:12:36.000I'm just not someone that runs around and talks about my conversations with him.
00:12:40.000I don't speak for President Trump and what he has to say.
00:12:43.000But I'll tell you right now, there's a lot of people right now that are planning big paybacks at me for actually demanding that the Republican I elected for Speaker of the House act like a Republican.
00:12:55.000And I'm going to tell you, I'm going to make sure this all stays transparent.
00:12:59.000Steve, I'm going to make sure that everybody knows every single thing about it.
00:13:03.000And I'll tell you right now, I am not worried about getting kicked off committees.
00:13:55.000They knew they had to do it all along and they said nothing and no one is going to stop us.
00:13:58.000Are you pretty shocked given that the United States for years had a policy of not allowing the Soviet Union to get a base there?
00:14:06.000And we were so had a such a kind of well thought to plan in the Middle East that a U.S. government, Biden's government that's supported by so many liberal, you know, liberal Jewish people actually cut off arms at the very moment when Israel needs the most cut off weapons to them.
00:14:24.000It is absolutely disgraceful that this president throws one of our most important allies and certainly our key ally in the region under the bus because they need to win Michigan.
00:20:26.000Melania Zonona at CNN just put up a tweet.
00:20:30.000Johnson was also briefed on this Trump-MTG call per sources.
00:20:34.000And another source says Trump was very clear in telling MTG to, quote, move on.
00:20:40.000I asked, Zononi didn't say, I asked Johnson about this.
00:20:43.000And he told me he has, he is not in favor of the, Trump is not in favor of the motion to vacate Melania.
00:20:49.000Melania, I mean, Dr. Crowley, if Trump is saying he doesn't support it, where do you stand?
00:20:57.000Well, I know Congresswoman Greene, who's an absolute heroine throughout on all of these issues.
00:21:03.000But she's said that she's going to continue this fight.
00:21:06.000Demands President Trump's position, but she has a strong position, too, that you elect a Republican majority in the House to exercise power.
00:21:14.000And by the way, for everybody talking about-
00:21:16.000Do you agree all four points that she laid out are demands?
00:21:26.000I'm an American first rebel like you are, Steve Bannon.
00:21:29.000And by the way, everybody feared on the left and the Uni Party and the regime, they didn't fear Donald Trump's failure.
00:21:38.000They feared his success because his success, they knew, would give rise to thousands of Marjorie Taylor Greene's that they would have to be back.
00:21:46.000When it comes to President Trump, look, I don't know where he is on this issue and what his thinking is.
00:21:53.000I do think that everything is so destabilized in the country and with him trying to stay out of jail for 700 years-
00:22:00.000And all the pressure on him every day when they're hammering him with the lawfare.
00:22:05.000I mean, as powerful as he is, he's still just one man.
00:22:07.000So he may just want some stability in the House, keep Republican control.
00:22:13.000So I understand that point of view, but I want to make one final point about this.
00:22:18.000When the argument is made, well, the Republicans, they only have one vote majority and it's so slim and they don't want the upheaval and the chaos.
00:22:26.000If the shoe were on the other foot and the Democrats had a one vote majority, they'd be exercising brute force.
00:23:16.000This is so important because you don't get people smarter than Dr. Monica Crowley or Jim Rickards on geopolitics, the economy, how the system works, and who the players are, and how the government works.
00:23:26.000And all you've heard is that MTG is by herself, MTG is by herself.
00:23:30.000Then when she lays it out, you sit there and go, that's pretty logical.
00:25:45.000Stanley Drunkenmiller on Squawk Box Jim Rickards today said that he was asked point blank, give a grade on Bidenomics and Joe Biden's handling economy.
00:25:52.000He said, if I had to give a grade today, it'd be an F.
00:26:39.000We have two assassination stories this morning.
00:26:42.000One is MBS and, you know, need more details.
00:26:45.000But the other one was a foiled assassination attempt on Zelensky.
00:26:49.000The New York Times is blaming it on the Russians.
00:26:51.000That's the most ridiculous idea I can think of.
00:26:53.000You know, when you do intelligence work, I say if you had all the facts, a smart high school kid could solve the problem.
00:26:59.000Intelligence work is not having all the facts but using Bayesian technique and inference and other, you know, tried and true techniques to figure it out.
00:27:06.000Why on earth would the Russians assassinate Zelensky?
00:27:08.000He's incompetent, corrupt, no military experience at all.
00:27:12.000If you're fighting a war, you want the leader of the other side to be as much of a dope as you can find.
00:40:34.000If it hadn't been for the Union Army supporting Lincoln overwhelmingly, I'm not so sure his second term would have been the landslide.
00:40:42.000Until Atlanta fell, McClellan was basically winning because he was running against his general who wanted to cut a peace deal with the South.
00:40:48.000You also bring up – the reason I love the book is the personalities.
00:40:57.000The Confederate Secret Service, a lot of it was working out in Montreal.
00:41:00.000And they were up to their necks in the assassination of Lincoln.
00:41:03.000I mean, these guys were everywhere and they've never really gotten their due.
00:41:08.000And your book really puts forth both the Union heroes and also the Confederate – these Confederate personalities that are just larger than life.
00:41:18.000And as you mentioned, in Montreal, it's a St. Lawrence Hotel.
00:41:21.000And this is really interesting cloak and dagger stuff, Steve.
00:41:25.000Jefferson Davis knows that the war is being lost.
00:41:28.000So he gives the Confederate Secret Service and its agents a million dollars in gold to buy influence from whoever they can.
00:41:37.000That's overseas powers, Great Britain or France, as well as the Democratic Party at the time.
00:41:44.000And it's at the St. Lawrence Hotel that you have some incredible intrigue that takes place.
00:41:50.000Mint juleps are served year-round there to satisfy anybody that's a Confederate sympathizer or all these expatriates that are up there from the South.
00:42:00.000And they're plotting and scheming the demise of the Union.
00:42:13.000It's about men and women, mostly men in the case of the Jesse Scouts, that literally changed the course of the war through their actions.
00:42:20.000The third battle of Winchester, it's the Jesse Scouts that find crucial intelligence that they realize that Jubal Early's brigade, one of his brigades, is being withdrawn to Richmond.
00:42:34.000And it's through that intelligence, which includes an enslaved African-American who is actually helping deliver the intelligence, and a school teacher, Rebecca Wright, that risks her entire life with this intelligence to deliver it through the Jesse Scouts to General Sheridan.
00:42:50.000And they attack at exactly the right time and place.
00:42:53.000And the third battle of Winchester changes the course of the Civil War and the electorate as well.
00:43:00.000The northern population now finally believes that the war can be won by the north.
00:43:06.000And these men are doing things at the crucial time and place, such as Appomattox.
00:43:14.000And I'll have a signing down there on Thursday on the 9th at 6 p.m.
00:43:18.000And it's the Jesse Scouts that helped capture Lee's supply trains and end the war.
00:46:26.000Patrick is the kind of guy who will spend hours after these big signings getting you up to speed on the history of this country, the true history of this country.
00:47:07.000No matter how much, no, absolutely not.
00:47:10.000And no matter how much pressure Biden and his team rains down on Israel and on Bibi's head, he is going forward.
00:47:17.000What about, are we going to see an explosion in New York City and other cities as it spreads out of the campuses into places like Times Square in Chicago, Los Angeles?
00:48:47.000And, you know, like we talked about how when the Soviets started this whole project to infiltrate and destroy us from within, they started with the government and then they moved quickly to academia.
00:48:57.000Because college campuses are very concentrated environments.
00:49:03.000And so you can get revolutionary thoughts, ideas, and activities going.
00:49:08.000It's like setting a match onto dry kindling.
00:49:11.000Plus, they don't have to work for a living.
00:49:13.000By the way, so Mosby, the book of The Unvanquished takes place, a lot of it takes around Middleburg.
00:49:17.000I know part of your, your stomping grounds, Palm Beach, Middleburg, in the Upper East Side of New York City, is that Monica?