Bannon's War Room - Episode 3617： Coverup Of The Justice Department

00:00:00.180 I now recognize the ranking member.

00:00:03.440 Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

00:00:05.140 Ladies and gentlemen, in this special nighttime episode,

00:00:09.080 we resume the madcap comedy mystery series called

00:00:13.000 Combers, High Crimes, and Misadventures,

00:00:15.680 the hilarious quest to impeach a president who has done nothing wrong,

00:00:19.640 an avowedly low-budget but multimillion-dollar taxpayer-funded production

00:00:23.960 which most Americans assumed had ended two months ago

00:00:26.920 and had completely forgotten about.

00:00:28.840 An avowedly low-budget but multimillion-dollar taxpayer-funded production

00:00:34.040 which most Americans assumed had ended two months ago

00:00:37.000 and had completely forgotten about.

00:00:39.340 But tonight, with the cast and crew now fresh back from a surprise trip to New York City...

00:00:42.620 You mean like the January 6th committee?

00:00:45.460 Uh-uh. Stop it.

00:00:47.220 I'd like my time restored to me, Mr. Chairman.

00:00:50.720 Order. Order. Chair recognizes the ranking member.

00:00:54.120 Okay.

00:00:54.420 Order. Order. Order.

00:01:01.400 Well, tonight with the cast and crew...

00:01:03.420 There is literally no branch of government that Michael Cohen has not lied to.

00:01:08.480 He lied to investigators.

00:01:10.160 He lied to the judge who sentenced him.

00:01:12.300 He lied to the United States Congress.

00:01:14.120 And he committed these lies for his own benefit.

00:01:17.280 And while we're talking about what we saw in that courtroom going on for people's own benefit, 0.80

00:01:22.880 we would be remiss if we did not mention this corrupt judge.

00:01:27.880 This judge whose own family is making six figures off of Democrat politics that continues to gaslight the country,

00:01:36.180 that there's some sort of crime committed by President Trump.

00:01:39.260 We're seeing today what lengths the Democrat Party will go to to try to rig or steal another election.

00:01:45.860 They tried to do it in 2020.

00:01:48.040 They're doing it again here in 24 by trying to keep the nominee off the ballot,

00:01:52.360 by trying to keep the nominee campaigning, by trying to ruin the nominee financially.

00:01:57.900 And we're seeing that today.

00:01:59.280 We saw the perjurer-in-chief, Michael Cohen, multiple times admit and acknowledge that he has lied under oath.

00:02:06.500 He's perjured himself.

00:02:07.840 And yet we're supposed to believe his testimony as the star witness against President Trump.

00:02:12.580 This is lawfare, again, to try to steal or to rig an election. 0.87

00:02:16.540 You've got a corrupt prosecutor.

00:02:18.220 You've got a corrupt star witness.

00:02:19.560 You've got a corrupt judge whose daughter is one of the leading fundraisers for the Democrat Party, 1.00

00:02:26.060 having raised some $100 million.

00:02:27.920 That's the judge's daughter. 1.00

00:02:29.640 This is a crooked, sham trial to try to hurt the nominee.

00:02:33.960 It's going to be the president of the United States, whether or not they like it

00:02:36.760 or whether or not they want that to happen.

00:02:38.560 President Trump is going to be re-elected.

00:02:40.200 ...different congressional investigations and inquiries.

00:02:43.360 And I know that pleases the gentlelady from Georgia because he issued...

00:02:46.580 I just want to hear Joe Biden.

00:02:48.060 Why can't the American people hear him?

00:02:50.220 Order, Mr. Chairman.

00:02:51.500 Get her under control.

00:02:54.160 President Trump issued an edict.

00:02:57.840 No, I am glad that the gentlelady from Georgia is learning something tonight, okay?

00:03:03.800 The president, I encourage her to be a good listener, and she's been a good listener.

00:03:11.820 So, Mr. Chairman, the last president...

00:03:15.500 I'd like to know if any of the Democrats on this committee are employing Judge Mershon's daughter.

00:03:24.800 Please tell me what that has to do with Mary Garland.

00:03:27.540 Is she a porn star? 1.00

00:03:29.340 Oh, Goldman. 1.00

00:03:30.180 That's right.

00:03:30.860 He's advising.

00:03:32.560 Okay.

00:03:33.960 He's advising.

00:03:34.560 Do you know what we're here for?

00:03:40.540 You know we're here about...

00:03:41.820 I don't think you know what you're here for.

00:03:44.520 Well, you're the one talking about...

00:03:46.000 I think your fake eyelashes are messing up what you're reading.

00:03:48.780 No, ain't nothing.

00:03:49.060 Hold on, hold on.

00:03:51.400 Order, Mr. Chairman.

00:03:52.620 That's beneath even you, Mr. Green.

00:03:54.300 That's beneath even you.

00:03:55.380 Order of your committee.

00:03:55.900 Order.

00:03:56.340 I do have a point of order, and I would like to move to take down Ms. Green's words.

00:04:00.460 That is absolutely unacceptable.

00:04:03.800 How dare you attack the physical appearance of another person?

00:04:07.880 Are your feelings hurt?

00:04:08.900 Move her words down.

00:04:10.220 Aw.

00:04:10.660 Oh, girl, baby girl.

00:04:12.760 Oh, really?

00:04:13.640 Don't even play.

00:04:15.400 Baby girl, I don't think so.

00:04:16.840 We are going to move, and we're going to take your words down.

00:04:18.940 I second that motion.

00:04:20.440 Ms. Green agrees to strike her words. 0.75

00:04:22.600 I believe she's apologizing.

00:04:24.140 No, no, no.

00:04:24.480 She's apologizing.

00:04:24.960 Okay, hold on.

00:04:25.760 Then, after Mr. Perry's going to be recognized, then Ms. Green...

00:04:28.280 I'm not apologizing.

00:04:29.600 Well, then, you're not striking your words.

00:04:31.840 I am not apologizing.

00:04:33.820 No, let's go.

00:04:34.520 Come on, guys.

00:04:35.980 Why don't you debate me?

00:04:37.940 Mr. Chairman, the minority...

00:04:40.560 I think it's pretty self-evident.

00:04:41.660 Chair recognizes...

00:04:42.400 You're not...

00:04:42.820 Yeah, you're not...

00:04:43.700 You're out of order. 0.95

00:04:43.720 You don't have enough intelligence. 0.97

00:04:44.900 You're out of order. 0.70

00:04:45.160 Chair recognizes Mr. Perry.

00:04:47.020 Okay, move to strike the...

00:04:48.400 I'd like to strike those words as well.

00:04:50.120 I would like orders as well.

00:04:51.040 Move to strike the ladies' words again. 0.99

00:04:53.040 That's two requests to strike.

00:04:54.960 That's two requests to strike.

00:04:55.920 Oh, they cannot take the words.

00:04:57.040 There's another motion to strike her words again.

00:04:58.940 And please get your members under control.

00:05:00.100 Here's the correct apology.

00:05:02.380 Ms. Green, do you agree to unanimous consent to strike your words?

00:05:08.140 I repeat again for the second time.

00:05:10.420 Yes, I'll strike my words.

00:05:11.540 But I'm not apologizing.

00:05:12.720 Without objection.

00:05:13.420 But if they had nothing to hide, and if they're truly being honest about this, why is it that

00:05:18.180 you guys can't be in the courtroom and see exactly what we're seeing?

00:05:21.340 Just because we're members of Congress does not mean we have authority more than you guys

00:05:25.860 to know exactly what's happening in that courtroom.

00:05:28.660 The fact that this trial, look at the timing of it.

00:05:31.660 Before the presidential primary, before the conventions, having Donald Trump sit here, their

00:05:38.180 whole purpose is to keep him off the campaign trail so that he can't do what he does best.

00:05:43.300 You know what their intent is?

00:05:45.180 This is their intent, to put him behind bars.

00:05:47.620 And the American people are going to say no.

00:05:50.020 They're not going to put an innocent man behind bars.

00:05:52.440 And what kind of political fear do they want to keep going?

00:05:56.580 This is a kangaroo court, pure and simple.

00:05:59.220 I was only in that courtroom for about two hours, and I heard Michael Cohen admit at least

00:06:04.720 six times that he lied.

00:06:06.740 I mean, that's what this is about.

00:06:08.300 That tells you everything you need to know.

00:06:09.960 And this is the star witness, him and Stormy Daniels.

00:06:13.620 The American people know what's going on.

00:06:15.700 You guys know what's going on.

00:06:17.040 You guys know why President Trump is here.

00:06:19.700 Why is he here?

00:06:21.240 Right there.

00:06:21.940 Political persecution.

00:06:23.560 They can't beat him.

00:06:24.900 They can't beat him, and everybody knows it.

00:06:27.280 The polls are showing it right now.

00:06:29.580 They couldn't beat him.

00:06:30.460 They tried to take him out with the Russian scandals.

00:06:34.100 They tried to impeach him multiple times.

00:06:36.420 And the American people also know that he could have retired down to Florida and live the American 0.90

00:06:41.260 dream.

00:06:42.000 But he came back.

00:06:43.340 Why?

00:06:44.460 Because he sees what's happening in this country.

00:06:46.860 And this is just one more example of it.

00:06:48.800 What I'm getting is these members of Congress saying, we're here to support him, and the

00:06:54.040 American legal system is illegitimate and corrupt. 0.77

00:06:57.800 And the judge is corrupt. 0.94

00:07:00.240 And let me tell you about the judge's family. 0.93

00:07:01.920 And that is just a wholly different thing.

00:07:06.380 It is a hard thing to have people in very high office committing crimes in this country.

00:07:10.580 It was hard with Nixon.

00:07:11.340 It was hard with Agnew.

00:07:12.300 It's hard with Trump.

00:07:13.520 There's a reason that sitting presidents can't get prosecuted.

00:07:16.040 Like, it's all very difficult.

00:07:17.900 But when instead you've got a political party saying the American legal system should be

00:07:24.220 gotten rid of because it's corrupt and the people involved in it are corrupt and bad and

00:07:29.840 evil and persecuting you and me, that is something totally different.

00:07:35.040 That is corrosive to the legal system at a minimum and potentially fundamentally destructive

00:07:41.400 to it if that's going to become the new platform on which the Republican Party makes the case

00:07:46.740 to the American people that they should be put back in full power.

00:07:49.120 Motion to adjourn, Mr. Chairman.

00:07:54.340 I think these 17-hour days might not work for us.

00:07:58.860 Something about working, huh?

00:08:01.920 Yeah, maybe showing up for a vote.

00:08:03.600 You have a lot to say being that you're on retainer for the judge's daughter.

00:08:09.820 Sorry, trust fund kit.

00:08:10.980 Mr. Chairman.

00:08:13.260 We should strike those words, too. 0.50

00:08:15.120 I hope you brought your popcorn.

00:08:16.640 Mr. Chairman.

00:08:17.420 We have to strike those actors as well.

00:08:18.700 We strike the fact that they called Mar...

00:08:20.300 They were making comments about Marjorie's body.

00:08:23.000 So we can do this all night long, but I have a motion at the desk.

00:08:24.880 Mr. Chairman, this is out of control.

00:08:26.420 We should adjourn, Mr. Chairman.

00:08:28.540 Motion at the desk.

00:08:30.020 Mr. Chairman.

00:08:30.720 I think my body's pretty good at...

00:08:32.940 I'm going to be 50 this month.

00:08:35.380 I am.

00:08:35.840 I turned 50.

00:08:37.080 Mr. Chairman.

00:08:38.040 Pretty good.

00:08:38.700 Mr. Chairman.

00:08:40.460 It's me.

00:08:41.120 Ms. Crockett.

00:08:42.020 I'm just curious, just to better understand your ruling.

00:08:44.840 If someone on this committee then starts talking about somebody's bleached, blonde, bad-built,

00:08:50.940 butch body, that would not be engaging in personalities, correct?

00:08:54.460 A what now?

00:08:57.360 Chairman, I make a motion to strike those words.

00:09:00.600 No, I don't think that's a part of it.

00:09:02.360 I'm trying to find clarification on what...

00:09:04.760 Chairman, motion to strike those words.

00:09:06.480 I have no idea what you just said.

00:09:07.840 We're not going to do this.

00:09:09.460 Look, you guys earlier literally just said...

00:09:11.660 You just voted to do it.

00:09:13.700 I did it first, so you don't want to talk about...

00:09:15.820 Order, order.

00:09:17.240 I'm trying to get clarification.

00:09:18.580 Look it, calm down.

00:09:20.000 Calm down.

00:09:20.420 No, no, no, no.

00:09:21.020 Because this is what y'all do.

00:09:23.160 So I'm trying to get clarification.

00:09:23.820 Hey, Ms. Crockett, you're not recognized.

00:09:25.580 Ms. Crockett.

00:09:25.840 I can't hear you with your yelling.

00:09:27.060 And you don't want me to be...

00:09:27.700 Calm down.

00:09:28.400 No.

00:09:28.640 Can you please calm down?

00:09:29.080 Don't tell me to calm down.

00:09:30.300 Calm down.

00:09:30.740 Because y'all talk noise, and then you can't take it.

00:09:32.960 You're out of control. 0.86

00:09:33.820 Because if I come and talk s*** about her, y'all going to have a problem. 0.85

00:09:37.540 Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman. 0.91

00:09:39.000 All right.

00:09:39.360 Chair...

00:09:39.960 Okay.

00:09:40.500 Order, pursuant to this vote, the committee hereby adopts the report recommending that

00:09:46.000 the House of Representatives find Attorney General Merrick Garland in contempt of Congress

00:09:50.980 for refusal to comply with a subpoena duly issued by this committee.

00:09:55.980 We will move the report to the full House.

00:09:58.760 Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table.

00:10:01.720 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:10:09.600 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:10:14.820 Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:10:19.080 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:10:20.980 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:10:22.420 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to

00:10:24.660 stop it.

00:10:25.100 It's going to happen.

00:10:26.160 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:10:29.780 MAGA Media.

00:10:30.700 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:10:36.620 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:10:40.320 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:10:46.720 War Room.

00:10:47.540 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:10:49.880 It's Friday, 17 May in the year of our Lord, 2024.

00:10:57.020 Tale of two cities and a firestorm in both.

00:11:00.360 Yesterday, the House Freedom Caucus, led by Congressman Bob Good, goes to New York City

00:11:04.860 to defend President Trump in front of the nation.

00:11:07.140 Then last night, the Oversight Committee, following on the Judiciary Committee earlier

00:11:11.660 in the day, complete firestorm, defying Merrick Garland in contempt of Congress about the subpoenas

00:11:18.280 over the tapes.

00:11:19.080 Of course, the White House exerted executive privilege.

00:11:21.460 We have Congressman Good from Virginia Five here with us today.

00:11:27.140 Congressman, tell us first about New York City and then about Merrick Garland.

00:11:31.340 You have one president exerting executive privilege.

00:11:34.760 Justice Department, fine with that.

00:11:36.260 You have President Trump up in a kangaroo court in New York City.

00:11:39.220 Your thoughts, sir?

00:11:40.740 It indeed is a kangaroo court. 0.99

00:11:42.580 You've got a corrupt judge. 0.97

00:11:43.740 You've got a corrupt prosecutor. 0.95

00:11:44.980 You've got a corrupt ex-con as the star witness.

00:11:49.140 And it was a privilege to go up and support the president, to have his back, to say the

00:11:53.000 things that this corrupt judge is trying to prohibit him from saying with this gag order,

00:11:58.620 this incredible, egregious gag order, which is trying to prevent President Trump as a defendant

00:12:05.400 from having a fair trial, from being able to defend himself in the court of public opinion,

00:12:10.180 about speaking about his innocence, speaking about what's happening to him in this courtroom.

00:12:15.400 But in the courtroom itself, I was able to have a front row seat there for a couple hours with my House Freedom Caucus colleagues.

00:12:21.060 And you saw the so-called star witness, the ex-con, Mr. Cohn, multiple times, six, seven times admit that he's perjured himself,

00:12:29.940 that he's lied under oath, and in addition to admit that he wants to personally get the president,

00:12:35.440 he wants to personally harm President Trump, he wants to see harm come to him because he's got a personal vendetta,

00:12:40.760 because he blames President Trump for whatever he has suffered legally for his behavior,

00:12:44.960 for his breaking the law, for his perjury and so forth.

00:12:47.960 So this is on full display what the Democrat Party will do to try to rig the next election.

00:12:57.280 We know about what they did in 2020.

00:13:00.080 But here in 24, of course, they first tried to keep President Trump off the ballot.

00:13:04.800 Thankfully, the Supreme Court put an end to that.

00:13:07.100 Now they're trying to weigh him down by keeping him off the campaign trail,

00:13:11.680 trying to strain or drain his resources.

00:13:14.300 Ideally, they'd like to put him in jail if they can get a crooked court in Georgia or New York or Florida or Washington

00:13:21.760 to convict him of something and to take him off the campaign trail by putting him in jail. 0.71

00:13:26.960 He'll ultimately be cleared of all these false, ridiculous charges. 0.84

00:13:31.020 But it may take appeal to do that with these crooked courts. 0.72

00:13:34.360 He's certainly not getting a fair shake at this point.

00:13:36.380 And this judge, as you know, to be the one whose daughter is raising tens of millions of dollars for the Democrat Party off this very trial.

00:13:44.660 So it was a privilege to have his back.

00:13:46.260 I was thankful that my House Freedom Caucus colleagues came and stood up for the president and said what he's not able to say.

00:13:53.380 We'd like to hold you through break and go to break in a second.

00:13:55.700 Just a question.

00:13:56.740 Was it 12, 15 House Freedom Caucus members were able to garner to get up there?

00:14:02.160 It was a true show of force.

00:14:03.600 How many?

00:14:03.940 Yeah, well, what they told us, there's 10 that are allowed in the courtroom at a time.

00:14:08.520 So that's the number that we had.

00:14:09.680 And then we're going to hopefully maybe be having some go up very soon again.

00:14:14.500 Congressman Goode, if you just hold on, I've got a couple more questions I want to talk about.

00:14:18.220 Merrick Garland.

00:14:18.960 Also want to address, and maybe we play briefly when we come back, Rachel Maddow, going specifically after you and some of your colleagues.

00:14:26.300 You're one of the most powerful members of Congress, being the head of the House Freedom Caucus, which I think people recognize as the most powerful caucus in all the Congress.

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00:14:40.420 Big article in Bloomberg today about Scott Besant.

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00:16:19.140 Is these members of Congress saying, we're here to support him and the American legal system is illegitimate and corrupt. 0.90

00:16:26.220 And the judge is corrupt.

00:16:29.740 And let me tell you about the judge's family. 0.93

00:16:32.300 And that is just a wholly different thing.

00:16:35.880 It is a hard thing to have people in very high office committing crimes in this country.

00:16:40.060 It was hard with Nixon.

00:16:40.820 It was hard with Agnew.

00:16:41.780 It's hard with Trump.

00:16:43.000 There's a reason that sitting presidents can't get prosecuted.

00:16:45.640 Like, it's all very difficult.

00:16:47.400 But when instead you've got a political party saying the American legal system should be gotten rid of because it's corrupt and the people involved in it are corrupt and bad and evil and persecuting you and me, that is something totally different.

00:17:04.280 That is corrosive to the legal system at a minimum and potentially fundamentally destructive to it if that's going to become the new platform on which the Republican Party makes the case to the American people that they should be put back in full power.

00:17:19.580 OK, we have Bob Good from the power.

00:17:22.280 He's chairman of the very powerful House Freedom Caucus, arguably the most powerful caucus in all of Congress and clearly in the Republican Party as they set the agenda for MAGA.

00:17:32.360 Congressman Good, your response to Rachel Maddow, I think she twists, I've never heard you say our system as a system is not the problem.

00:17:42.220 It is the corrupt people and particularly radical Democrats that are the problem.

00:17:45.480 Your thoughts, she criticizes you, quite frankly, specifically for leading that contingent that went up to defend President Trump yesterday, sir.

00:17:53.640 Well, a lot of people in my district are really concerned about what Rachel Maddow has to say.

00:17:57.700 I can tell you I get asked a lot about Rachel Maddow.

00:18:00.240 The next time will be the first time.

00:18:01.580 But, you know, she's she's right in the sense that the danger of this, but not the way that she means.

00:18:06.720 And I think she forgot Clinton Biden on her list of individuals who are corrupt and who who have abused power and ought to be held accountable.

00:18:15.160 Certainly Joe Biden and his family, the most corrupt presidential family in the history of the country.

00:18:19.300 We could go on and on about that.

00:18:21.240 And obviously he should be held accountable for that.

00:18:23.520 But perhaps among the greatest harms that the administration has done to the country in these last three and a half years is the loss of faith and trust in once sacred institutions.

00:18:33.880 Our judicial system, our judicial system, our system of justice in this country, our federal law enforcement.

00:18:39.200 And it demonstrates the harm that's done to the country when you elect people, Joe Biden, at least, or to allegedly elect people who will abuse their power.

00:18:49.360 They're not even pretending anymore.

00:18:50.760 They're colluding with big tech to suppress free speech and freedom of expression and sharing of information to suppress political opponents, to use the full power of the federal law enforcement to go after pro-life protesters and concerned parents who show up at school board meetings.

00:19:07.260 And those who are exercising their second amendment rights to go after political opponents, to try to put them in jail, like we've talked about, the great harm that's being done that threatens our very existence as a constitutional republic.

00:19:20.400 Does anyone think we could survive four and a half more years of this?

00:19:23.920 So it is at stake.

00:19:25.340 It is at risk.

00:19:26.180 And that's why the American people are going to overwhelmingly elect President Trump.

00:19:30.420 They're better off by every standard.

00:19:32.020 I'm sorry.

00:19:32.580 They're worse off by every standard of measurement than they were three and a half years ago.

00:19:37.260 Everyone knows they were better off.

00:19:38.920 They were safer.

00:19:39.720 They were more prosperous.

00:19:40.900 They were more free.

00:19:41.800 They were more secure under President Trump by every standard of measurement.

00:19:45.180 They know they can't beat him at the ballot box.

00:19:47.300 They know that they're heading for a disaster in November.

00:19:50.060 And that's why they're, again, trying to steal the election by destroying our nominee, by destroying President Trump.

00:19:55.700 It's not going to work.

00:19:56.560 The American people aren't going to stand for it.

00:19:58.140 But that's why we needed to go to New York City and have his back and to stand up for him and every Republican ought to be doing that.

00:20:04.440 Are we hurtling towards a constitutional crisis?

00:20:06.280 Two committees marked up contempt charges on Garland yesterday for trying to protect Biden and the executive privilege.

00:20:16.080 Are we hurtling towards a constitutional crisis during the next week or two?

00:20:19.600 Well, it is incredible, Steve, that Garland has asserted basically that he doesn't think that his department should be accountable to Congress.

00:20:27.220 You know, we're not three co-equal branches of government.

00:20:29.680 It's the legislative branch.

00:20:32.200 That's why Article I comes first.

00:20:33.720 That's why it is the longest article in the Constitution.

00:20:36.540 It's the legislative branch.

00:20:37.840 It's the people's representatives that are supposed to be the most powerful.

00:20:40.580 We're the only ones that are directly accountable to the people, particularly the House of Representatives.

00:20:45.700 And so, yes, we're the only ones who can hold accountable, bring transparency, bring consequence.

00:20:51.600 We can do it through the power of the purse.

00:20:53.540 We've not shown a willingness to do that, sadly.

00:20:55.440 And unfortunately, I will acknowledge not all Republicans have been willing to do that.

00:20:59.000 We also can do it through the hearings.

00:21:00.540 And that's why I'm glad that judiciary and oversight are going after Garland for his unwillingness to turn over the audio tapes of Joe Biden.

00:21:08.320 He doesn't want the American people to see this sympathetic elderly man who has a poor memory.

00:21:13.760 But so, yes, we may be facing that kind of a constitutional crisis, to your question.

00:21:20.720 Congressman Good, where do people go for your site to find out more about you, social media, all of it?

00:21:25.420 Where do they go?

00:21:26.720 At Rep Bob Good, good.house.gov, and bobgoodforcongress.com.

00:21:31.540 I know you take this very seriously, coming from the part of the Commonwealth of Virginia, God's country, where both James Madison and Thomas Jefferson came from.

00:21:41.180 So thank you very much, sir, for doing this.

00:21:42.820 And thanks for your leadership yesterday.

00:21:44.260 Very impressive.

00:21:45.500 Thank you, Steve.

00:21:46.220 Great to be with you.

00:21:46.960 Keep up the fight, my friend.

00:21:48.800 Thank you, brother.

00:21:50.140 I think we've got a cold open for Jeff Clark, who was also up in New York City yesterday.

00:21:54.400 Let's play the cold open and bring Jeff in.

00:21:55.860 They rose in court, reserved for Trump's guests, who were so bloated with members of the Pick Me Caucus, elected Republicans transparently and vainly seeking Trump's recognition and praise, 0.63

00:22:09.340 that one of his advisors reportedly asked some of them to sit in the back of the room.

00:22:13.420 They were out of room.

00:22:14.360 The only thing more humiliating than that is the fact that in attending court today, those Republicans, either wittingly or unwittingly, sacrificed their House majority for the day.

00:22:24.120 That body's oversight committee had to reschedule a hearing this morning on contempt charges for Attorney General Merrick Garland, likely because so many Republicans were at Trump's trial.

00:22:34.660 Just one political stunt running up against another political stunt.

00:22:38.760 And again, like a bad sitcom, there were weird crossovers from other Trump trials.

00:22:44.040 Our producer in the room today noticed right away that Jeffrey Clark, yes, that Jeffrey Clark of oil spill fame, an architect of the fake electors plot.

00:22:55.920 Jeffrey Clark on the short list to be the next Attorney General, also Nicole Wallace.

00:23:02.020 Brother Clark, give me your summary.

00:23:03.900 First off, your thoughts.

00:23:05.240 Let's take New York City since she went there.

00:23:07.840 Give us your thoughts yesterday.

00:23:08.860 We couldn't hear you that clearly because of the weather.

00:23:10.900 Tell us your thoughts from the show of force yesterday to protect President Trump and what you saw in the courtroom.

00:23:17.260 Sure, Steve.

00:23:18.180 Well, look, what Rachel Maddow and Nicole Wallace will do is they'll try to portray members of Congress going up to support President Trump and others going up to support President Trump as some kind of nefarious activity, the likes of which has never been seen before.

00:23:33.300 But I was struck by the fact that while they tried to talk about the quote unquote public attending the trial, the the actual courtroom was filled by far with more leftist figures from the so-called mainstream media than anybody else.

00:23:47.280 You know, there was or or practitioners of journal lawfare, people like Norm Eisen were there.

00:23:53.760 Lawrence O'Donnell was there.

00:23:55.320 Ari Melber was there.

00:23:57.120 Kyle Cheney was there.

00:23:58.940 It was a veritable who's who of folks on the left who are constantly attacking President Trump.

00:24:04.640 They were occupying most of the seats.

00:24:06.540 So from that perspective alone, right, what's the problem with one of our with a group of our elected officials attending the trial to observe what's happening, particularly because it is a clear attempt to interfere in the 2024 presidential election.

00:24:22.520 And those members of Congress have an interest in oversight, even of what happens in the states.

00:24:28.520 And we know that Alvin Bragg is resisting efforts to see himself be, you know, called to account and having to account for his actions in Congress.

00:24:37.400 So it's a totally legitimate function being exercised by these members of Congress.

00:24:42.120 And yet the the the Nicole Wallace's of the world try to portray it as if, you know, it's some kind of dagger at the republic.

00:24:49.500 Are we hurtling towards a constitutional crisis is what happened yesterday backing capital?

00:24:54.420 I mean, you've got all of this in New York, the lawfare, you've seen a great amount of these people are now on meltdown.

00:25:00.080 Once again, we're the bad guys, right, because we're challenging this corruption and want to reform this corruption.

00:25:05.400 But what happened on Capitol Hill?

00:25:07.020 What happened between the White House yesterday, executive privilege?

00:25:09.780 Are we hurtling towards a constitutional crisis here?

00:25:13.280 Look, Steve, I think, you know, we may well be.

00:25:16.400 And, you know, my takeaway from what happened yesterday is, you know, they want to have their cake and eat it, too.

00:25:22.520 So, you know, I think they may have even ginned up the documents case against President Trump, recognizing that they had a problem once they discovered that Biden, back when he was a senator and a vice president, so had no stop, full stop, full stop.

00:25:38.480 That is exactly my point.

00:25:40.160 It's been my point from the beginning.

00:25:41.400 I want to hit rewind because you're a great legal scholar and great legal mind.

00:25:45.520 I'm not. I think it's becoming clear now, particularly they're going to the mattresses about these tapes and they're going to the mattress about Biden's participation in documents.

00:25:58.060 And I've said from that, even the timing of all this looks strange.

00:26:02.540 Do you agree with me that there's something just there's something odd about this, something weird about this and why they're thrown down so hard on this Biden situation?

00:26:10.420 Absolutely. Look, and, you know, I'd been on your program early on in the Biden document scandal about the Biden Pen Center, the suspicions, their activity.

00:26:22.200 You know, Kathy Chung and the fact that she got lawyered up with, you know, lawyers who are, you know, at the highest tiers of the profession, you know, and white collar practitioners in D.C.

00:26:33.000 It's very suspicious. So what I was going to say about about that is that, you know, Biden didn't have any ability to keep those documents.

00:26:42.820 We have him on tape saying to his biographer, hey, I found the classified documents in my garage.

00:26:49.400 Right. So and then, you know, later we have her saying, well, you know, he's a kindly old man.

00:26:55.480 He might be sympathetic to the jury.

00:26:57.440 You know, he might have a poor memory, et cetera.

00:26:59.960 That's not the right time period. The right time period for assessing his conduct is at the time when he was actually taking the documents, first and foremost.

00:27:08.760 And then second, using them to make eight million dollars for a book advance with his biographer.

00:27:14.900 So what I was going to say in terms of the cake and eat it, too, point is when they set up Robert Herr, right, they tell us, oh, he's oh so independent.

00:27:23.460 He doesn't have any ties to Biden.

00:27:26.420 You know, he can totally go off and do what he wants.

00:27:28.600 So then if that's true, right, if he's somehow, you know, not part of the executive branch of the government in some way, in however limited a fashion, and he does interviews of Biden, then why can't Congress get access to those precisely on the theory that there couldn't be any executive privilege if they're talking to someone who executive privilege doesn't cover?

00:27:50.260 But what they're going to say, Steve, is they're going to set it up as a fight between the Biden White House and Congress.

00:27:56.580 And they're going to just imagine that Robert Herr dropped off the face of the earth.

00:28:00.940 Exactly. Hang on for one second, Jeff. Just want to hold you through the break.

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00:30:20.880 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:30:24.300 Okay, Ben Harnwell is going to join us in a second.

00:30:27.140 I just want to make sure the audience understands how far ahead of the curve you are as an audience more than anybody else in media,

00:30:35.340 and here's why it is on Friday, May 17, 2024, the New York Times, the paper of record of our beloved republic, cover, right-hand column, that means lead story.

00:30:49.540 As you can see, NATO considers sending troops to Ukraine.

00:30:54.340 How many years have we said this from the beginning?

00:30:57.260 NATO considering sending troops to Ukraine.

00:31:00.160 Sub-headline, or seriously, down here, Ukraine's manpower shortage.

00:31:05.880 You can see it right there.

00:31:06.560 I'm going to get to Ben Harnwell in a minute.

00:31:08.360 Ukraine's manpower shortage.

00:31:10.820 The reason that they're thinking of sending 150,000 advisors and people that can train.

00:31:17.340 Remember that from Vietnam?

00:31:18.480 150,000 NATO advisors, I know it doesn't coincide at all with Tony Blinken being over there having his nightclub gig.

00:31:28.560 NATO considering sending troops.

00:31:30.360 We're going to get to that in just one minute.

00:31:31.880 We've got a cold open for Ben Harnwell.

00:31:33.900 He joins us live from Rome.

00:31:35.780 Back to Jeff Clark.

00:31:37.020 Jeff, this is going to be a long, hot summer, dude, and it's starting already.

00:31:42.820 Yesterday was a throwdown, and last night on Capitol Hill is about as wild as I've ever seen it.

00:31:48.620 Tempers were short, but the stakes are quite high.

00:31:52.400 Talk to me.

00:31:53.060 Where are we?

00:31:54.160 This is a very—they're trying to hide something.

00:31:56.640 Do you agree?

00:31:57.420 I mean, they are trying—if there's no problem, we've got the transcripts, why can't we hear the audio tape?

00:32:04.960 And why don't we have a videotape, brother?

00:32:08.420 Those are very good questions, Steve.

00:32:10.100 I'm sure you remember back to Ken Starr being the independent counsel before that statute lapsed.

00:32:15.720 We were treated to video excerpts, the American public was, of Clinton under fire, right, as part of that process and having to squirm in the chair, et cetera, right?

00:32:26.080 I mean, you know, this is the reason why oftentimes in modern litigation in America there are videotaped depositions because you get information that you don't get from a cold transcript.

00:32:36.940 You get to see people, you know, actually react to the questions, their body language, their facial expressions, et cetera.

00:32:43.280 And also the tone of voice, you get that from an audio tape, right?

00:32:46.980 But you get, you know, increasing levels of information depending on whether you just have a transcript that a court reporter does, whether you have an audio tape, whether you have a videotape.

00:32:55.040 And, you know, why didn't her go, you know, the full Monty here and get that information so that the American people can see? 0.91

00:33:03.260 And again, you know, it's one thing, right, if an advisor to the president goes into the Oval Office and they have a discussion, you know, and Congress says we want to get that.

00:33:10.700 I mean, that's classically executive privileged.

00:33:13.280 But if you have this figure who's supposedly doing an independent investigation, that should be turned over to Congress on their very own theory.

00:33:20.980 But they're magically going to ignore that theory now.

00:33:23.040 They're going to have Merrick Garland say, oh, this is very confidential.

00:33:26.260 This cuts at the heart of what the executive branch does.

00:33:29.900 But I have the same question you have.

00:33:31.960 Like, if we got the transcript, why can't we get the audio tape?

00:33:35.580 What are they hiding?

00:33:37.980 Jeff, how can people get more information?

00:33:41.160 You've been at the cutting edge of all this.

00:33:42.860 Obviously, the paper, our papers say all the time, Washington Post, New York Times, you're on the short list, either the White House counsel or the attorney general.

00:33:51.360 People want to find out more about you and your work over at CRA.

00:33:53.800 Where do they go?

00:33:55.600 I'm at JeffClarkUS on Twitter, X and Getter.

00:34:00.580 And I'm at RealJeffClark on Truth Social.

00:34:03.260 And you can follow all of the work, especially as we ramp up still more with, you know, expanding personnel at the Center for Renewing America, which is americarenewing.com.

00:34:13.920 Jeff, thank you so much for joining us today.

00:34:16.920 And thank you so much for going up yesterday and having the president's back and then coming out and reporting in very difficult circumstances.

00:34:24.140 Thank you, sir.

00:34:24.600 Appreciate it.

00:34:25.640 Thanks, Steve.

00:34:28.080 Jeff Clark.

00:34:28.700 Okay, I got a cold open.

00:34:30.120 Ben Harnwell, we're pulling him into the morning show this morning because we have very big news.

00:34:35.600 And you need to know about it because this is going to drive a lot.

00:34:39.340 And this comes after.

00:34:40.280 And Ben Harnwell is the guy that called it after the House Republicans bailed out Biden.

00:34:45.200 Let's go ahead and play it.

00:34:46.700 Front page story of The New York Times today.

00:34:48.840 NATO allies are inching closer to sending troops into Ukraine to train Ukrainian forces.

00:34:53.900 We know how much President Biden has prized, revitalized the NATO alliance.

00:34:57.680 Its 75th summit will be the summer held in Washington.

00:35:01.660 But take us to this decision.

00:35:03.660 There's real risk here, too.

00:35:06.140 It wouldn't be combat troops.

00:35:07.240 We're probably talking about trainers.

00:35:08.960 Right now, the training of Ukraine has taken place in places like Poland.

00:35:12.380 And the idea is just to step it up and to have more people on scene and probably giving a little bit more tactical advice.

00:35:17.960 And I think it's a reflection that the trajectory of the war is moving against Ukraine.

00:35:22.520 What we've seen in the last few months, in part because of the delay in U.S. military aid for several months,

00:35:28.160 and then also because Russia's really geared up, in part because of Chinese help, North Korean, Iranian help,

00:35:34.120 and their own wartime economy, the tide of the battle is turning against Ukraine.

00:35:38.880 Not decisively, but the trend is clear.

00:35:41.500 And I think what you're beginning to see are people in NATO saying, what can we do to stem this momentum?

00:35:46.200 And that's why we're going to probably see this step of having trainers inside Ukraine itself.

00:35:50.960 That's Haas from the Council on Foreign Relations.

00:35:55.360 That's a bald-faced lie right there.

00:35:57.960 We've been dead spot on on everything in Ukraine from the beginning, and including this one most importantly. 1.00

00:36:04.760 Right there, if they can see it.

00:36:06.480 Look at my underline down there.

00:36:07.640 This is 1,000% because they ain't got the 27-year-olds, 500,000 that the two generals they cashiered said they need it.

00:36:19.880 They're 500,000 troops short.

00:36:22.420 Why is that?

00:36:23.120 Because the moms and dads in Ukraine, the moms and dads in Ukraine have gotten them out at $5,000 and $10,000 a shot.

00:36:30.580 Why?

00:36:31.400 Because the mothers and fathers in Ukraine do not want their sons and daughters thrown into the charnel house, thrown into the charnel house of the Ukrainian front.

00:36:42.100 Ben Harnwell, what do you got for us?

00:36:44.940 Steve, well, this is a very dramatic maneuver.

00:36:47.260 Good morning to you.

00:36:48.040 And I think it just illustrates somewhat the precarious nature that America is in and also that NATO is in.

00:36:55.240 Your cold open there said that this is evidence that Biden is revitalizing NATO, one of his key ambitions.

00:37:03.560 I don't quite know if that's true.

00:37:04.940 I think it's more cases splitting NATO because NATO's position here, considering the European contingent, is very much 50-50 on this.

00:37:16.300 And as you saw, and I say that, I mean that euphemistically, we had the poll, didn't we, a couple of days ago, which had not – there was not a single European member state that actually wants to send ground troops into NATO.

00:37:28.560 So I think what we see here, Steve, is the difficulty that Biden is in.

00:37:32.340 This is – we're six months away from the American elections.

00:37:35.840 Biden cannot afford for Kiev to fall, and we're waiting on a daily basis for Kharkiv, Ukraine's second largest city, to fall.

00:37:44.700 So we can't – America cannot afford Biden.

00:37:46.780 Hold, hold, hold, hold.

00:37:47.740 Slow down.

00:37:48.380 Slow down.

00:37:48.920 Slow down.

00:37:49.500 Stop.

00:37:49.940 Full stop.

00:37:51.120 Talk to this about the American people.

00:37:52.520 You've had the Secretary of State go over there.

00:37:54.520 You've seen what's – the parents refuse to send their kids.

00:37:59.760 They're 500,000 combat troops short.

00:38:01.780 They're talking about 150,000 NATO troops as advisors and as trainers.

00:38:07.660 That's all BS.

00:38:08.780 These are going to be combat troops.

00:38:10.660 But talk about the buried lead.

00:38:13.140 Kharkiv is about to fall, the second most important city in Ukraine, sir.

00:38:18.420 Am I correct in that?

00:38:20.380 Yeah.

00:38:20.840 I mean, we're expecting on a day-by-day basis.

00:38:23.860 You can tell that the situation is touch and go because the conflicting news reports are coming out from all quarters day by day.

00:38:30.960 Some say that Ukraine is holding on to these five villages towards the eastern frontier of Kharkiv.

00:38:36.640 And others are saying that, you know, then they're sort of contradicting themselves with their hourly updates of their own online articles, saying, no, no, no, sort of Russia is taking these.

00:38:45.400 So, basically, I just draw the note that Boris Pistorius, the German defense minister, and we did cover this on the show in real time, here in a visit to Washington, came out and said that he thinks it's going to be a good idea to reintroduce conscription in Germany.

00:39:00.980 That would require a constitutional amendment to do that in order to confront the Russian aggression.

00:39:09.180 But, of course, we know that Russia is not in a position, not interested in invading Germany.

00:39:14.240 So, obviously, the question is if they're going to introduce conscription right now in the face of Russian aggression, this is with a view to sending troops to Ukraine.

00:39:25.220 Obviously, they can't come out and say this, the same thing in the United States, because it is massively unpopular.

00:39:31.020 Biden has this election to win, and as much as the House GOP and the Senate GOP are trying to help him, please.

00:39:38.940 No, no, no, but here's what, Grace and Mo, you've got to get this New York Times, and let's get it so the archives,

00:39:43.580 so that people can read it.

00:39:44.780 You must read this story today, because the lies and misrepresentations are all there,

00:39:50.100 but they've got buried leaves where the truth comes out.

00:39:53.440 This is about Ukraine's manpower shortage, has reached a critical point.

00:39:57.140 Now, in the sub-headline, for now, U.S. resisting move that would pull it deeper into the war, would pull it deeper into the war.

00:40:08.100 This is Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan all over again. 0.99

00:40:11.760 You read down here, you've got down here, so far, the United States has said no to trainers or introduction of NATO troops.

00:40:21.860 But General Charles Q. Brown, Jr., the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said on Thursday that a NATO deployment of trainers appeared inevitable,

00:40:30.640 quote, will get there eventually over time, end quote.

00:40:35.180 Folks, you've got to be lighting a fire.

00:40:37.640 This is exactly the reason we shouldn't have sent the $61 billion over there.

00:40:42.820 This is exactly the reason that we should have forced Biden to come on the War Powers Act to explain and lay out a strategy.

00:40:50.060 We're being sucked into this.

00:40:51.940 Ben Harnwell nailed it.

00:40:53.120 The Republican House under Johnson bailed out Biden on the worst military disaster, I don't know, since the collapse of Antietam, let's say.

00:41:08.900 Antietam was actually, I guess, I would say maybe a victory for the North.

00:41:12.140 Let me think about that for a second.

00:41:13.640 But a total military fiasco.

00:41:16.200 And now you've got, they're actually telling you they're going to insert combat troops.

00:41:22.400 Oh, they're going to call them trainers at first.

00:41:24.440 The chairman of the Joint Chiefs said we're going to get there eventually.

00:41:28.040 Incrementalism. 0.76

00:41:28.720 They're going to lay it in there, and then you're going to get American troops over there killed.

00:41:32.540 And next thing you're going to know, just like Golf of Tonking, all of this, we're going to be putting more people in there.

00:41:38.000 This Ukraine situation is about to spin out of control.

00:41:41.540 The parents of the young Ukrainian men and women are saying, no, you will not take our children, because we understand this is a war to support Zelensky and his oligarchs. 0.86

00:41:53.740 When are the parents in this country going to stand up?

00:41:57.000 I know we don't have the draft, OK?

00:41:59.280 But think about the kids that are volunteers.

00:42:00.960 They're all going to go.

00:42:01.960 Ben Harnwell.

00:42:03.280 Steve, look, in terms of buried leads in this article, so you have the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Graham, saying that it's inevitable.

00:42:12.120 That NATO is going to be sending troops into Ukraine, and we just have to get there.

00:42:17.680 That's the same day yesterday, the same day that the White House was also briefing the press, saying this is absolutely not going to happen.

00:42:24.280 Now, what I would suggest here, I mean, this is the point.

00:42:27.480 This is how you can tell that the American people aren't interested in boots on the ground in Ukraine, because the administration is lying about it and yet trying to achieve it by stealth.

00:42:37.140 The buried lead here that I wasn't aware is that the U.S. administration had been pressuring Emmanuel Macron behind the scenes diplomatically to temper down France's commitment to send troops in on the ground.

00:42:52.780 Now, this is slightly confusing under a certain aspect.

00:42:56.500 But, of course, it makes absolute sense when you realize that in this six-month period between now and the election, the Biden administration wants to keep absolute control on what is taking place in Ukraine.

00:43:08.740 It cannot afford Kiev to fall.

00:43:12.060 That's why NATO is being prepared surreptitiously under false pretenses to get in there.

00:43:17.200 But they don't want the war to escalate.

00:43:19.740 How are they going to justify if, as you say, and you tell me Zelensky backs you up on this, Kharkiv, if Kharkiv falls, how are they going to justify it?

00:43:30.740 It's the second biggest city in Ukraine.

00:43:34.220 Once Kharkiv falls, there will be flight out of Kiev like nobody's business into Poland, right? 0.64

00:43:39.340 I mean, Kharkiv falling is a military disaster of the highest order.

00:43:43.520 Do you agree with me?

00:43:44.240 Steve, I think Kiev, in terms of the highest order, that would be Kiev falling.

00:43:50.420 I'll tell you what I think.

00:43:51.440 And this is what I would be looking for, the secret signs that this might be the case.

00:43:55.580 I'd be looking for anything that indicates the administration is making a back-channel outreach to Moscow, saying we're going to send troops in.

00:44:04.620 We want status quo.

00:44:06.020 Don't take Kharkiv. 0.97

00:44:07.500 Absolutely don't take Kiev up until November the 6th.

00:44:10.540 Basically, after November the 6th, you can do what you want.

00:44:13.560 But up until then, we can't afford it.

00:44:16.940 Short break.

00:44:17.600 Back with Harnwell in a moment.

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00:45:47.920 Okay, the war room, engine room, I'm getting blown up right now.

00:45:50.700 Remember, in the Civil War for the Confederacy, for the South, it was always by the name of the town.

00:45:57.760 And the Union always named it by the body of water.

00:46:01.760 So for our Southerners, it's Sharpsburg.

00:46:03.740 And for the Yankees, it was Antietam.

00:46:07.420 And let's just say the bloodiest day in American history.

00:46:09.920 We'll call it a draw.

00:46:11.600 Many strategic and tactical arguments on both sides.

00:46:15.700 But let's just say it's a draw.

00:46:17.500 Not what we're facing here.

00:46:19.120 I'm telling you, it is incredibly, incredibly, incredibly dangerous to what's happening.

00:46:23.920 We've argued this for a long time.

00:46:26.140 Ben Harnwell, we haven't forced Biden to come.

00:46:29.200 This is the bald-faced lies.

00:46:32.820 The $60 billion, they pretended that was going to take it.

00:46:36.540 Now they're talking about a 10-year plan to de-Trumpify, to stop President Trump so he can't take, can't do anything with the sanctions on the Russians for negotiating tool.

00:46:46.100 He can't put pressure on NATO with the 2% as a negotiating tool. 0.93

00:46:50.040 He cannot, he's going to be hamstrung in everything he's going to try to do to end this war.

00:46:55.360 Yet, they still don't demand that Biden come forward and actually lay out a plan.

00:47:00.920 And as you know, Ben, because you're the first reporter, they're working on a 10-year financing of what you dug up, the buried lead from one of their ministers that says it's going to be hundreds of billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars to complete this fight.

00:47:14.860 Now the New York Times on the front page reporting the chairman of the Joint Chiefs all behind the scenes.

00:47:19.740 Troops, NATO troops are getting ready to go into Ukraine.

00:47:23.700 Of course, we're all going to have, if you read the Pentagon Papers, all the lies, they're going to go in as trainers first and advisors first.

00:47:31.060 They're essentially combat troops getting ready for the big push.

00:47:34.720 Ben Harnwell, thoughts?

00:47:36.620 Steve, there's one segment in this New York Times article, which is a bald-faced lie.

00:47:42.260 And it says, as part of NATO, the United States would be obligated under the alliance's treaty to aid in the defense of any attack on the trainers,

00:47:50.360 potentially dragging America into the war.

00:47:53.720 Look, that's a bald-faced lie.

00:47:54.940 As we've covered on the show, Article 5 simply says that NATO allies can take, and I quote,

00:48:01.680 such action as the NATO ally deems necessary, including the use of armed force to retain, restore, maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

00:48:13.800 So, look, this is absolutely an escalation.

00:48:18.180 It's very concerning that it's being done by stealth.

00:48:21.020 It's very concerning that the administration, even on the very day that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is saying that it's inevitable,

00:48:28.780 that the administration itself is putting out the line, reinforcing the line, that it's not going to send NATO trainers into Ukraine.

00:48:36.540 And that's all very concerning.

00:48:38.580 But, however, the saving grace here, and, of course, NATO doesn't override the acts of Congress.

00:48:44.940 You have the War Powers Resolution, I think it's 1973.

00:48:47.980 That still is operative.

00:48:49.640 Congress can, should, I would say, must sort of assert its prerogatives here in this situation.

00:48:57.220 But if, because, of course, the scenario is with NATO trainers there, this would give a pretext to kicking off World War III, should these trainers be attacked.

00:49:10.000 And that's the whole point, why, up until now, NATO has been training Ukrainian troops, and NATO allies have been training Ukrainian troops outside of Ukraine to not be in the direct firing line of Russia.

00:49:20.540 So these things are going on, but I think now Congress, pressure needs to be put, huge pressure, massive political pressure needs to be put on the useless, low-T Mike Johnson to insist with regards to the White House that the War Powers Resolution should be operative.

00:49:42.060 Congress should have the final say.

00:49:44.100 And the other thing I would absolutely insist on is I want to know what was in this intelligence briefing that Mike Johnson read that calls him to U-turn, stab MAGA in the back, and authorize the $61 billion, which we now know was never going to be enough.

00:50:05.200 We know this, as you were mentioning, thanks to the Ukrainian Justice Minister, who said it was going to require hundreds of billions in order to win the war.

00:50:11.620 We need to know what this information was so that the American public that's going to be providing, potentially, boots on the ground can make an informed decision between now and November.

00:50:25.200 Ben, how do people get to your social media, particularly over the next couple of days?

00:50:30.340 Thanks, Steve. Getter, my social media platform of choice. Tap in my surname, Harnwell, and there I am. Thanks very much, Steve. God bless.

00:50:38.060 Thank you, brother.

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00:51:20.820 Mike Lindell, Newsweek's got a big story about you in the state, the beautiful historic state flag of the great state of Minnesota.

00:51:28.760 I know you're going to be with the president later today.

00:51:31.620 You're going to make a big deal about this.

00:51:33.460 Newsweek's saying you're on the warpath about the Islamic flag that now flies over the capital of Minnesota.

00:51:39.960 Your thoughts, sir?

00:51:41.560 Well, it's true.

00:51:42.720 We are very upset.

00:51:44.560 And I'm saying all people in Minnesota.

00:51:46.360 Everyone I talk to about the last few days is just like, who picked this?

00:51:50.460 Who got involved in this?

00:51:51.640 And, Steve, they narrowed it down, I believe, to eight flags, and five of them had the Islamic ties to the Islamic star in the flags.

00:52:02.940 It's going like, you can't make this stuff up.

00:52:05.240 The people didn't get a choice in this.

00:52:07.300 They put in there.

00:52:07.980 They were flags that were put in for, hey, we'll take, you know, look at everything.

00:52:11.600 Well, who is this committee that looked?

00:52:13.780 And then why wasn't this stopped?

00:52:16.540 And we're not going to let it go.

00:52:19.100 There's stuff that's been going on in Minnesota with this Islam for quite a long time right now. 1.00

00:52:24.900 And we're not going to take it anymore. 0.99

00:52:26.880 This is disgusting.

00:52:28.400 We have the beautiful flag where our roots came from here in Scandinavian roots in Minnesota, our beautiful lakes and everything else.

00:52:35.420 And now look what you've got on the right.

00:52:37.380 It's just, it's horrible.

00:52:39.160 Do you think this could start to, because Minnesota's right on the edge of flipping MAGA and flipping for Trump.

00:52:46.340 President Trump lost it by under 1% in 16.

00:52:49.880 I mean, he was on me all the time.

00:52:51.360 And I said, look, we only got enough time.

00:52:53.260 We barely got enough time for Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

00:52:56.520 But he was right and I was wrong.

00:52:58.480 If we had carved out more time for him to spend, we would have flipped Minnesota in 16.

00:53:03.000 We've got 30 seconds.

00:53:03.980 I'm going to hold you through the break.

00:53:04.840 Do you think that this type of issue that could unite Democrats' independence with Republicans?

00:53:11.120 A hundred percent, Steve.

00:53:12.520 Our whole program we have running right now, Flipping Democrats, this is just one thing to add on here in Minnesota.

00:53:19.420 Minnesota, I believe we can flip Minnesota everywhere you talk.

00:53:23.700 This is uniting the people.

00:53:25.020 One more thing.

00:53:26.020 They ram it down our throat and we don't want it.

00:53:28.300 And it's working.

00:53:30.020 It's the opposite.

00:53:30.860 Evil is greedy, Steve.

00:53:32.680 And it's helping us, actually.

00:53:34.800 Evil is greedy.

00:53:35.620 90-second break.

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Bannon's War Room - May 17, 2024

Episode 3617： Coverup Of The Justice Department

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