Bannon's War Room - Episode 3620： Ukraine Begs For NATO Troops

00:00:00.000 Look at this number for Donald Trump, 22%.

00:00:03.180 Where was Donald Trump at this point four years ago in the polls?

00:00:06.860 He was just at 9% of the vote, so he's seen more than a doubling in his support among African Americans.

00:00:14.560 This margin, which was in the 70s just four years ago, look at where it is now, 69 minus 22.

00:00:20.900 That puts it in the 40s.

00:00:22.660 My goodness gracious, if this held through the general election, obviously we're still months away,

00:00:27.180 this would be by far the best performance for a Republican candidate among black voters in a generation,

00:00:33.640 two generations, probably since 1960 and Richard Nixon against John F. Kennedy.

00:00:39.320 That's how long we're really talking about when we're looking at this margin here.

00:00:42.920 This could be a truly historic margin.

00:00:44.880 It's quite a troubling sign for the Biden campaign.

00:00:47.240 I think there's two things at work here.

00:00:49.440 One is there is a cognitive decline of Donald Trump.

00:00:52.080 If you look at Donald Trump even eight years ago, he looks like a, sounds like a very different person.

00:00:57.940 He was mean. 0.98

00:00:59.100 He was racist. 1.00

00:01:00.140 He was sexist. 0.98

00:01:02.920 But he wasn't in the cognitive decline that he's in now.

00:01:06.820 This is a guy who is on a fast track to dementia.

00:01:10.480 And we should talk about that because it's extraordinarily dangerous if this guy becomes president of the United States.

00:01:15.860 I mean, do you really want to give nuclear weapons to somebody who's up there talking in public about Hannibal Lecter as if he's a real person?

00:01:22.900 I mean, it's just, it doesn't have anything to do with right or left or conservative or liberal.

00:01:27.180 Right.

00:01:27.460 This is just, you know, a man who's in decline and he should never be president.

00:01:33.280 But there is a right and a left and there are people who have opinions as they should across the political spectrum. 0.97

00:01:40.600 And I would think, but I've been an idiot because I've been thinking this for eight years. 0.59

00:01:44.480 I would think this is a great time for some of those people to do what people like you have done and said, whatever my political beliefs are, wherever I lie on the ideological spectrum, it's not getting achieved with this guy. 0.93

00:01:54.820 It's not, we're not furthering the debate in American politics with this guy.

00:01:58.900 And yet they line up.

00:02:00.640 They go to that courtroom.

00:02:01.680 They have no business going there.

00:02:02.540 If you never showed up in Donald Trump's trial, it wouldn't affect you politically.

00:02:05.540 And yet they go.

00:02:07.340 Yeah.

00:02:07.860 You know, I miss Shane, Ali.

00:02:09.880 I really do.

00:02:11.540 It was a useful instrument in civil society.

00:02:15.480 Yes.

00:02:16.940 You know, this is why I called this book I wrote.

00:02:19.400 It was all a lie because I don't know any other conclusion you can come to.

00:02:23.460 You know, people don't abandon deeply held beliefs in a few years.

00:02:26.620 And this party, this was the character counts party.

00:02:29.800 You know, Peggy Noonan wrote a book when character was king.

00:02:32.960 And they're up there voluntarily dressed like some sort of aging boy band reunion. 0.68

00:02:39.420 And talking about the guy that wants to be president of the United States who is accused of having sex with a porn star 10 days or so after his young son was born, who paid her off. 0.98

00:02:53.140 I mean, it's just all so tawdry.

00:02:55.040 You know, in 2000, when I worked for Bush, the single most powerful message that we had in that campaign was restoring honor and dignity to the White House.

00:03:05.020 I mean, it worked better than anything else because it resonated with people.

00:03:09.780 And, you know, I still think that America's out there.

00:03:12.380 I think the Republican Party is out of step with that America.

00:03:15.920 And I think it's one of the reasons that Joe Biden is going to win resoundingly in the fall.

00:03:20.080 But specifically with black voters, it's not all black voters.

00:03:24.520 It's younger black voters and particularly younger black men.

00:03:28.480 I discovered this when I got off a plane at JFK when two baggage handlers came over to me to tell me that I don't get it, that they're going to vote for Donald Trump because they think they are being victimized the same way that he is.

00:03:42.800 In some of these votes that have left Joe Biden over the last four years, it's because of Biden's weakness.

00:03:49.400 In this case, young black men see in Donald Trump the same kind of oppression, the same kind of persecution, the idea that Trump is a victim and they feel victimized by the system.

00:04:02.920 And so they're endorsing Trump because of the fight that he's having.

00:04:05.840 And I actually think it's possible that among black voters, male black voters under age 40, that even a third of them could end up with Trump in the fall.

00:04:17.880 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:04:22.800 Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.

00:04:28.060 I got a free shot.

00:04:29.380 All these networks lying about the people.

00:04:32.380 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:04:33.880 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:04:35.800 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:04:38.420 It's going to happen.

00:04:39.700 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:04:43.080 MAGA media.

00:04:44.440 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:04:49.840 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:04:53.620 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:04:59.820 War Room.

00:05:00.820 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:05:03.880 It's Saturday, 18 May.

00:05:08.560 You're a very lord.

00:05:09.580 2024.

00:05:10.480 We have an absolute packed show today.

00:05:13.020 We're going to go from Minnesota to get a summary of what President Trump said last night to Grant Stinchfield, of Real America's Voice, is at the NRA, where President Trump will talk today.

00:05:23.200 We're going to talk geopolitics.

00:05:24.500 We've got capital markets.

00:05:25.440 Birch Gold is going to join us.

00:05:26.600 It's jammed for the next two hours.

00:05:28.160 Thanks for joining my favorite show of the week, as you guys know, the Saturday morning show.

00:05:32.700 Raheem Kassam, my co-host.

00:05:34.560 Raheem, first off, we'll talk about the Rudy thing a little while.

00:05:37.500 Raheem and I were there last night.

00:05:39.320 Raheem much later than I was.

00:05:41.060 Raheem, you're completely ripped.

00:05:42.780 I haven't been in a—you know, it's like a gun show now.

00:05:45.880 You're like Anderson Cooper.

00:05:47.680 It's a gun show.

00:05:48.580 What is going on?

00:05:49.820 When did you find the time to work out?

00:05:51.900 I thought National Pulse was taking 24 hours a day.

00:05:55.260 It's lots of tea and lots of raisin bread and a lot of push-ups.

00:05:58.800 That's all we're doing now.

00:06:00.660 Raheem, you've got a—I've got a great piece, and two of the great guys are going to join us in a second about this—about the tip of this race.

00:06:08.520 But you've got a scoop.

00:06:09.580 I think it's up on—the reason that everybody's focused on the throwdown in the House, on the markup of the contempt citation, it's not about—they're not talking about the constitutional crisis.

00:06:21.200 We're heading to, as they circle the wagons at the White House to try to protect this tape that we're eventually going to hear.

00:06:28.880 But they don't want to talk about Cohen's disastrous testimony of the cross-examination by Todd Blanche.

00:06:37.200 And I've got to tell you, I'm so glad they stretched it over until Monday.

00:06:40.820 They're going to be able to go through everything, get another bite at the apple.

00:06:43.680 But you picked up a buried lead.

00:06:46.260 Yeah, that's right.

00:06:46.780 I mean, we've been watching the trial really closely, and National Pulse readers will know that Will Upton has been working on, like, long roundups every afternoon.

00:06:56.980 And one of the things I kept picking up on was—

00:06:58.340 I think you're the only guys that are doing it.

00:06:59.440 Yeah, that's right.

00:07:00.300 Not many people are following this.

00:07:02.140 And Will Upton pulls out that, you know, he keeps calling himself a surrogate.

00:07:06.960 He keeps calling himself a 2016 campaign surrogate.

00:07:09.640 Well, surrogate, for the people that know, is a political industry piece of technical jargon.

00:07:16.220 Term of art.

00:07:17.060 Exactly.

00:07:17.580 For people who are outside of, like, being paid by the campaign, but they're still getting talking points in the inbox every morning, go out on television, on radio, represent in the best way possible.

00:07:27.320 So I just thought, hey, has anybody bothered to check with the people who are running surrogate operations from 2016 as to whether or not Michael Cohen was actually a surrogate?

00:07:36.140 So I checked.

00:07:37.140 And it turns out Brian Lanza, who was the director of communications back on the campaign—

00:07:40.460 He ran surrogates for us.

00:07:41.880 He ran the surrogate operation.

00:07:43.720 He sends me a message.

00:07:44.760 He says, at no point did Donald Trump or anybody on the campaign ask me to treat Michael Cohen as a surrogate.

00:07:50.740 No way.

00:07:50.880 He was not one of our surrogates.

00:07:52.480 Impossible.

00:07:52.960 And so this is—it seems like a small deal, but at the same time—

00:07:56.620 No, it's another perjury thing.

00:07:57.640 It's perjury.

00:07:58.540 Right.

00:07:58.860 He's perjured himself, and he didn't say it once.

00:08:01.420 He said it all throughout the trial.

00:08:02.880 Yeah, because he tried to make himself like he was part of the campaign.

00:08:05.140 He was not.

00:08:05.460 We wouldn't let him on the 14th floor.

00:08:06.920 Guy's bad news.

00:08:08.340 We're going to get to more.

00:08:09.400 Rahim, thank you for joining us today because we're going to talk a lot about Ukraine, geopolitics, Xi and Putin, Ben Harnwell, Dr. Larry Swiker, who wrote the new book on globalization.

00:08:18.960 We'll start with Dr. Bradley Thayer, one of our top contributors, and, of course, Captain Jim Fennell.

00:08:23.620 You guys have a piece out this morning that kind of lays the framework, and that's why I wanted to start with you.

00:08:28.200 You really teed it up well.

00:08:29.360 Dr. Thayer, tell us your argument over at American Greatness, and Grace and Mo, Carly Bonet, everybody, our Telegram page, if people can push this out.

00:08:39.520 I want this—this is on the must-read list for this weekend.

00:08:42.680 Dr. Thayer.

00:08:44.240 Hi, Steve.

00:08:44.840 It's great to join you and Rahim again.

00:08:48.300 Our argument is the election of 2024 is a critical election.

00:08:53.980 This is essential.

00:08:54.800 It would go back to 1860 to find anything equivalent in American history, and the choice is clear.

00:09:02.760 This election is going to determine whether we have a renaissance, really, in American freedom and a rebirth of American liberty and conceptions of the spirit of 1776,

00:09:14.820 or whether we're going to, increasingly, as we have been, go down the path of totalitarianism.

00:09:22.040 And that's not hyperbolic, but that is the stark choice that we face.

00:09:28.480 The path to totalitarianism has been decades in the making.

00:09:32.400 This isn't something new.

00:09:33.640 It's not like Athena out of Zeus's head.

00:09:36.140 This is something that we have been—essentially, many currents have brought us to where we are.

00:09:42.500 But that's the choice, the lawfare, the tactics that have been employed, 2016, then 2020, and then with the run-up to the election today.

00:09:53.660 And, Steve, as you've stressed time and again, what happens after the election is also essential to ensuring that we have a faithful election.

00:10:05.700 But that path to totalitarianism is a really stark one.

00:10:10.020 And we draw the contrast to the Bolsheviks in 1917.

00:10:13.780 They didn't know how far they could push the Russian people. 0.98

00:10:16.980 It's not because they didn't have the intent, the revolutionary and bloodthirsty intent,

00:10:23.020 but they recognized that year after year they could push and they could continue.

00:10:29.580 And the result was that you reached the horrors of Stalinism.

00:10:34.140 And that's something that we need to recognize.

00:10:36.460 Americans need to recognize the stark choice which is present.

00:10:40.560 But at the same time, there's the possibility with President Trump and the coalition that's coming together, as your cold open identified, right, folks are coming to the MAGA movement in droves and from many different populations who they hadn't before.

00:10:59.060 There's that possibility for the renaissance really in American thought, in American politics, and to recapture really what made the United States an exceptional and great country.

00:11:14.900 Let me get Captain Fennell in here because he's seen it from Europe.

00:11:17.460 With your guys' thesis and what Dr. Thayer just laid out, and we just had on Thursday in Atlanta, I think the second or third of the Freedom Alliance's, the Third World War, the early years,

00:11:31.680 which the Committee on the Present Danger, Captain Fennell, you, Dr. Thayer, obviously War Room, have helped.

00:11:37.500 But you see Xi and Putin.

00:11:39.840 You see the coming together.

00:11:41.120 And we force Putin to kind of partner with Xi.

00:11:43.260 You see Xi.

00:11:43.980 You see Putin.

00:11:44.540 You see the Mullahs in Persia.

00:11:45.720 You see all the conflicts in Ukraine, everything.

00:11:49.300 I mean, do we have a—if we're going to have a renaissance, I mean, how are we going to do that, Captain Fennell, when the storm clouds of war are right there with us, sir?

00:12:00.340 Well, Steve, thanks for having us on.

00:12:02.840 And I think the answer is we have to return to the spirit of 1776, which we mentioned in the article, which is that we have to put truth first.

00:12:11.560 In your cold open, you had somebody on.

00:12:13.480 I don't know who that person is, but they talked about that the party, the GOP, used to stand for principles.

00:12:18.720 Well, here's a principle.

00:12:20.500 Since Biden's been in office, we've had probably a million people be vaporized through war.

00:12:26.860 In Afghanistan, Americans and Afghani friends and allies murdered.

00:12:31.220 In Ukraine, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians murdered, Russian soldiers dead, five million people displaced out of Ukraine at a minimum.

00:12:43.820 And now we see what the tens of thousands are being killed in Israel and Gaza.

00:12:48.680 So by allowing the totalitarians that are pursuing their agenda inside the United States, we're watching people be killed. 0.67

00:13:00.180 And we didn't see that during the previous administration.

00:13:02.860 So when people want to talk about principle and stand for principles, we have to speak out for truth.

00:13:08.540 And so if they want to focus on some trial and be titillated with that, that's their business.

00:13:14.100 But the reality is people are being killed because of the policies and actions of Joe Biden.

00:13:20.380 And it was highlighted this last week, watching our secretary of state go out and play a guitar in Kiev while people are in war. 0.81

00:13:29.800 It's disgusting.

00:13:31.580 And Americans, if we're going to avoid this war or prepare for this potential war that Xi and Putin and the mullahs want to inflict upon us, 0.89

00:13:40.180 we're going to have to stand up now and reject the lies, reject these lies that are coming out of every orifice in D.C.

00:13:48.160 and the press and the media, and we've got to speak truth, and we've got to say we've got to get back to rational thinking,

00:13:55.000 and we can't allow this agenda to take Trump out to dominate everybody's mindset.

00:14:01.280 It's killing people right now.

00:14:04.400 Guys, hang on for a second.

00:14:05.640 We're going to take a short commercial break.

00:14:06.960 That was Stuart Stevens, who you know well.

00:14:09.620 And just back to Thayer's point.

00:14:11.280 The reason we got here, Stuart Stevens says we stood on principle.

00:14:14.360 That's controlled opposition.

00:14:15.440 We got into the situation because they didn't have the backbone or the spine to stand up to the radical left.

00:14:23.620 Well, you know, in a lot of senses you have the internationalization of American, both domestic and foreign policy, right?

00:14:30.260 And so everything that they're talking about now with, you know, the throwbacks to the Bolshevik revolution,

00:14:34.700 all of these things that America has been so good at fending off for centuries now actually has come home to roost.

00:14:40.060 And it's done it. It's done it in such a disturbingly nascent manner.

00:14:45.560 Like, Joe Biden doesn't seem like that totalitarian figure to most people out there.

00:14:49.540 And that's why they want to keep him up there as the guy.

00:14:52.900 Short commercial break.

00:14:54.280 We've got Dr. Swiker.

00:14:55.440 We've got Ben Harnwell, Captain Fennell, Dr. Thayer next in the war room.

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00:16:01.880 In the War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:16:06.500 Dr. Thayer, Captain Finnell picked up on it, Stuart Stephens.

00:16:10.300 Remember, Stuart Stephens was the major strategist for Mitt Romney and one of the most prominent political voices.

00:16:17.260 We opened, we had both Luntz talking about the rise of MAGA as a multi-ethnic, multi-racial, populist, nationalist movement that right now looks like,

00:16:27.560 if you look at the polling, and we can deliver that and not let them steal it, this could be a blowout.

00:16:32.980 Controlled opposition.

00:16:34.360 The Republican Party had power for decades and decades and decades.

00:16:37.420 The House, the Senate, the White House.

00:16:39.100 And we are where we are.

00:16:40.460 Your thoughts?

00:16:40.940 Well, indeed.

00:16:43.560 And that's in no small measure because the Republican Party, big chunks of it in terms of the elite, not the base, certainly.

00:16:53.040 But those who are running the Republican Party were controlled opposition.

00:16:57.920 They were always a half a step or maybe one full step behind what the Democrats were doing.

00:17:03.560 And they were that way for decades.

00:17:07.240 And that really shows the success of the communist totalitarian movement in the United States,

00:17:14.180 where they were not only able to work their way into the educational system, media, universities, of course, foundations,

00:17:22.380 but politics, including opposition parties that should have resisted that movement,

00:17:28.380 called it out and resisted it time and time again, but obviously did not.

00:17:35.720 In fact, because of the rewards or because they were coerced or because they were cowed by other mechanisms, right,

00:17:44.720 they always went along with whatever that totalitarian impetus in the Democratic Party was doing.

00:17:52.840 And that explains why we are where we are in terms of our politics, in terms of the Republican Party,

00:18:00.300 and the separation between, if you will, the elite and the MAGA movement.

00:18:04.520 But it also shows why 2024 is critical because this is the last chance, the last chance we have.

00:18:12.260 Captain Fennell, you guys use the, you know, you analyze the Bolsheviks in your piece.

00:18:16.540 Do you think that modern Democratic Party and the combination of Wall Street and the tech feudalism out of Silicon Valley,

00:18:22.120 do you think we're looking at modern Bolsheviks?

00:18:25.620 I do, Steve. I think it's a form of communism.

00:18:29.540 And it's a form of, as Brad said, we have this elite capture,

00:18:33.780 and we have people that are just more willing to believe in themselves.

00:18:39.000 And that's why, you know, we wrote this book, Embracing Communist China, America's Greatest Strategic Failure, 0.62

00:18:44.840 which talks to the fact that elites from both parties, Democrat and Republican,

00:18:50.140 have put us in a position of weakness vis-à-vis the PRC and allowed the PRC to grow.

00:18:55.360 We fed them. We gave them money.

00:18:57.320 We helped them build their military.

00:18:59.780 We helped them build their economy.

00:19:01.120 And now they're turning it on us to destroy us.

00:19:03.400 And so these people in Washington can't ever admit that they made that mistake.

00:19:07.360 They should, but they won't.

00:19:09.520 And they have a tendency, as Brad said, to think this way and to think in terms of total control.

00:19:14.780 And we saw it during COVID.

00:19:16.480 That was probably the biggest revelation, I think, to the American people.

00:19:21.560 Captain, for now, where do people get the book, where do they get more of your writings?

00:19:25.200 How do people make contact with you, find out more about you?

00:19:27.580 You're one of the seminal figures in this fight against the Chinese Communist Party

00:19:32.980 and this spread to the United States of America.

00:19:35.640 So where do people go?

00:19:37.580 Well, they can get our book anywhere you buy books.

00:19:41.120 It's for sale on any website, but it's Amazon or Skyhorse Publishing.

00:19:47.160 And Brad and I do a weekly column for American Greatness, and we write for other outlets as well.

00:19:53.260 And then for me, I don't do social media, so you can get a hold of Brad.

00:19:57.020 You do social media.

00:19:59.100 He does.

00:20:00.220 Dr. Thayer, where do people go to get you?

00:20:03.220 Bradley Thayer at Getter or at Truth or Brad Thayer on X.

00:20:07.020 And thanks very much, Steve, and great to see Raheem, too.

00:20:10.800 Yeah, great.

00:20:11.680 The book is fantastic.

00:20:13.240 The article is fantastic.

00:20:14.400 We'll push it out whenever I go.

00:20:15.740 And, you know, you two guys are—when you guys say this, you're not folks that run around with your hair on fire.

00:20:21.280 So it has even more power, more gravitas.

00:20:24.100 Thanks, guys.

00:20:24.780 Join us on a Saturday.

00:20:25.620 Appreciate it.

00:20:29.540 So where are we, Raheem?

00:20:30.860 You've been doing this for a while.

00:20:32.500 You see the collapse of the Tory party in the United Kingdom.

00:20:35.440 We've got a run-up.

00:20:36.800 I say the European parliamentary elections could be as important in this movement as Brexit was to the tee-up of 16 for President Trump.

00:20:44.300 You do this every day, and you've been both in the trenches and then an observer of it.

00:20:49.980 Your thoughts?

00:20:51.260 Still in the trenches, by the way, but just kind of taking a step.

00:20:59.180 Is it different being an information warfare than it is being a day-to-day operative?

00:21:02.980 Yeah, day-to-day operative, you know, the logistics take up all your time, right?

00:21:07.260 And you don't really have the time to think about some of the things that I'm just going to mention now, right?

00:21:10.900 Which is, where does this fight go?

00:21:12.480 And who are we actually fighting here?

00:21:14.340 Because you can talk about the ideology.

00:21:15.700 You can talk about the Democrat Party.

00:21:16.980 You can talk about, you know, a lot of the NGO class, the DC operatives, the rhinos, all of that stuff, as we do every day, right?

00:21:23.040 That's the logistics.

00:21:24.240 But let's talk about the 50,000-foot picture here.

00:21:26.180 The big problem that we face at the moment, you look at Natalie Winter's story yesterday about the Soros stuff and all of that.

00:21:33.640 You look at how much they're buying up all of these media outlets across the country.

00:21:38.020 Yeah, the radio Soros is running the tables on radio.

00:21:40.720 Look, none of the—I'm sure you've said it before.

00:21:42.520 I'm going to say it again.

00:21:43.620 None of this lawfare could exist.

00:21:46.280 Nothing that's going on right now that usurps the U.S.'s founding principles could exist.

00:21:53.300 Unfortunately, I'm going to say this, and no offense to Dave Bossie, without Citizens United.

00:21:57.680 The flood—

00:21:58.940 Not the organization of Dave, but the ruling that came out.

00:22:03.180 Walk our audience through that.

00:22:04.480 Look, the idea—and by the way, this brought something back to my attention last week because I think it was The Guardian.

00:22:12.300 Of course it would be The Guardian.

00:22:13.640 It had a piece that says, well, if corporations can be people, then animals can be treated as people as well.

00:22:18.900 And I thought to myself, this is the crazed thinking of these depraved people.

00:22:24.540 We need to be thinking about rowing back the idea that corporations can act as individuals in an election in the United States, right?

00:22:34.040 That somehow the defenses, the pretenses—

00:22:38.200 This is what the donors wanted from day one, right?

00:22:40.040 This is what the corporate class wants, right?

00:22:42.360 Because it effectively negates your agency out there.

00:22:47.160 And it's not a human against human thing.

00:22:49.940 It is a faceless corporation against your economy, against your constitution, against your agency, against your neighborhood.

00:22:57.400 And I think the future of this movement in a lot of ways, and call me a hippie maybe, lays with assailing corporations at the most fundamental level, right?

00:23:05.760 They've now found these forever chemicals ubiquitous in the Great Lakes.

00:23:11.760 Yes.

00:23:12.160 In the Great Lakes, right?

00:23:13.440 Ninety-five percent of America's fresh water, right?

00:23:16.340 Right there.

00:23:17.380 And they've been dumping these chemicals in there.

00:23:20.380 And I think if this movement, you know, wants to grow into that area, you have to take the fight to them on the poisoning of America.

00:23:29.780 I think the MAGA movement is.

00:23:31.040 I think this is what MAGA stood up against the COVID pandemic and what Fauci was pushing with the mask.

00:23:37.080 Obviously—

00:23:37.680 Flint.

00:23:38.340 You know, the water in Flint.

00:23:39.920 Flint, the first thing President Trump went to in the 16 campaign when the Democrats couldn't do it.

00:23:45.840 So much that came out of COVID and the restriction of the pandemic.

00:23:48.600 I think it's the backbone of the—and you can't trust these giant corporations.

00:23:53.380 People know these people—

00:23:54.520 Look at what Tyson Food is doing.

00:23:56.140 We're entrepreneurial capitalists, right, and not finance capitalism.

00:23:59.440 But look at what these big companies are doing.

00:24:00.920 Tyson Food is a great example of this.

00:24:02.460 You've seen this?

00:24:03.320 Yeah, about firing the small—the people in the villages and hiring the illegal aliens. 1.00

00:24:08.740 Hiring?

00:24:09.200 Yes.

00:24:09.680 Well, they say—

00:24:10.180 They're in your face.

00:24:10.880 No, but here's the thing.

00:24:11.560 This is how they do it.

00:24:13.020 Jobs Americans don't want. 0.95

00:24:14.640 They're not illegal migrants.

00:24:16.260 Right.

00:24:16.740 Why are they not illegal migrants? 1.00

00:24:17.940 Because what happens is they're illegal migrants when they enter the country. 0.96

00:24:20.820 But then the Biden regime has been giving them right-to-work documentation.

00:24:24.980 Yes.

00:24:25.080 Yes.

00:24:25.180 So they're laundering illegals. 0.62

00:24:27.420 Yes.

00:24:27.660 And now they're working.

00:24:29.200 And then who's going out and buying Tyson Foods?

00:24:32.360 Yes.

00:24:32.500 Yes.

00:24:32.600 It's ordinary Americans, and they're unaware of this stuff.

00:24:35.080 They're poisoning America, and you're eating the poison. 0.53

00:24:38.240 And also destroying the working class in this country because you're driving on wages.

00:24:42.000 This Bolshevik revolution could not happen in America without the corporate class and all their cash.

00:24:48.460 Remember, I make a big distinction between communism and Marxism.

00:24:53.140 Communism is a set of economic principles.

00:24:55.980 And, of course, the Marxists—these people are clearly Marxist, right?

00:25:00.040 They want total control, and they want to accrete all value to themselves.

00:25:05.580 So it's not like they're, you know, New Testament, Gospel of Matthew, Sermon on the Mount, you know, communist that, you know, everybody gets their own share.

00:25:15.020 That's not how they work.

00:25:15.980 But they are definitely radical Marxists, atheistic against traditional Judeo-Christian West, against the family.

00:25:21.880 Dr. Larry Schweikert, you wrote the book on globalization.

00:25:25.060 Do you see it in a starker terms right now, as Thayer and Captain Fennell, that everything's on the table right now?

00:25:32.340 We've had too much controlled opposition, and that the globalists are out to turn the United States into a totalitarian dictatorship?

00:25:40.020 Well, they've been doing that for 30 years.

00:25:42.500 In historical terms, that's nothing new.

00:25:45.060 What is new is the pushback is exceptional right now.

00:25:49.560 It's unbelievable.

00:25:51.140 I mean, in just this last couple of weeks, we had Ireland begin deporting illegal immigrants.

00:25:57.560 We had England start deporting illegal immigrants.

00:26:00.320 We had the Netherlands begin mass deportations of illegals and a crackdown on the Green Revolution. 0.98

00:26:07.620 We had Peru say that transism is a mental disease.

00:26:12.840 A few, what, two months ago, we had the Cass report in England, which I think shocked everybody, that said, yeah, there's biological sexes and there's only two of them. 0.77

00:26:23.520 And miracle in miracles, the British government actually accepted that with the National Health Service and said, okay, you're right.

00:26:32.740 So the U.S. is actually way behind the global trend right now, which is populism reacting against all of these elements within the globalist movement.

00:26:45.440 I love it.

00:26:46.440 And I think your first guest was talking about where President Trump is with blacks.

00:26:51.720 We're only seeing the tip of the iceberg.

00:26:54.040 The report came out today that Trump is going to hold a rally in New York, the first by a Republican in a very long time.

00:27:01.180 And, of course, he will get an incredible turnout.

00:27:04.380 And you guys are all absolutely right.

00:27:06.700 The only reason we're even discussing Harrison Butker and his church speech or Marjorie Taylor Greene and occasional cortex in their house fight or the Alito flag,

00:27:19.140 the only reason they are bringing this stuff up is because Joe Biden is getting crushed now.

00:27:25.140 The polls are starting to all move away from him in a significant way.

00:27:28.960 Trump's starting in near 50 percent in many of these state polls.

00:27:33.280 And Nevada yesterday was at 49.

00:27:35.660 When you hit that 50 percent margin, boy, they're over.

00:27:39.260 Now, we've talked about the gap.

00:27:41.660 Hold it.

00:27:42.000 Hold it.

00:27:42.500 Dr.

00:27:43.040 Sorry.

00:27:43.320 Hang on one second.

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00:30:47.680 Raheem, Swikert gave us a pretty good tour de horizon on what's going on.

00:30:52.400 Do you buy this that you're starting to see a revolt against the madness?

00:30:57.560 Oh, yeah.

00:30:58.140 Big time.

00:30:58.560 I also think that on the East Coast, we're extremely, like, more kind of bubbled in than ever before.

00:31:07.320 This is huge.

00:31:08.180 Tell us about this because I think you're 1,000% correct.

00:31:11.100 I've started to watch a lot of, like, localized programming from outside of the East Coast.

00:31:16.580 Like, comedy programming, cultural programming, things like that.

00:31:20.200 And the things that we're told in New York and D.C. that you can't say, you can't talk about, you can't joke about, like, all of these things, oh, they're doing it all the time.

00:31:31.680 They don't mind whatsoever.

00:31:33.360 I mean, some of these comedy shows, I've, you know, they've been going on for a long time.

00:31:37.580 When you say comedy shows.

00:31:39.960 Yeah.

00:31:40.280 So, recently, and I know a lot of the audience will know what I'm talking about already, but recently I've started watching a lot of this show, Kill Tony, right, which is out of Austin.

00:31:46.980 They left L.A., especially because of all the pandemic stuff, moved the show out to Austin.

00:31:51.860 They're friends with the kind of Joe Rogan guys and all that community.

00:31:55.180 They have these comedians on every week.

00:31:56.600 And, look, I'm not saying, this is no endorsement from me on this stuff, but, like, Adam Ray, another comedian, gets up on stage a couple weeks ago, and he's in full, like, drag, right?

00:32:05.140 But he's lampooning the drag.

00:32:06.960 He's, like, in Mrs. Doubtfire-style drag. 0.93

00:32:10.420 And all those things, I think, you know, it's hammered into our heads all the time.

00:32:14.940 You see what's going on in Midtown Manhattan.

00:32:17.340 You see what's going on in downtown D.C., George Washington University campus, like, all that nonsense.

00:32:22.260 The rest of the country is just looking at the East Coast and looking at the Acela Corridor and going, who are you?

00:32:28.000 Like, we don't recognize you.

00:32:29.940 And I know a lot of people have felt like that for a long time, but I think that that stark distinction, that gulf is getting wider and wider.

00:32:37.060 I think this is also Gerd Wilders, what's happening with him.

00:32:39.520 He's putting together the anti-mass migration, even Ireland kicking back on some of this stuff.

00:32:44.320 Look, the funny thing is that the East Coast, the Acela Corridor now is like the old world to the rest of America.

00:32:51.600 Exactly.

00:32:51.980 Right?

00:32:52.320 It's fusty.

00:32:53.080 It's stuffy. 1.00

00:32:53.720 They've got all these fucking rules. 1.00

00:32:55.120 It's closer to Brussels than it is to America. 1.00

00:32:56.880 It's far closer to Brussels, right?

00:32:58.980 And also, I mean, it's such a great point, by the way, about what's going on in Europe.

00:33:02.300 Now, listen, I don't think that deporting 12 migrants from the U.K. to Rwanda is necessarily going to change the world.

00:33:08.840 But it's a start, right?

00:33:10.400 Well, it shows you they're panicked about the vote.

00:33:12.400 About the vote.

00:33:13.000 They've got to show it.

00:33:13.560 It's intent.

00:33:14.360 Netherlands doing this, too.

00:33:15.920 What's happening in Spain?

00:33:17.140 What's happening in France?

00:33:18.600 I mean, we laid the groundwork for these conversations back when, 2013, 2014.

00:33:23.760 I mean, this is a decade ago.

00:33:25.200 We were talking about, hey, you look 10 years into the future, and we are going to have to be mass deporting people.

00:33:31.400 Mass deportation.

00:33:31.740 Look at what's happening.

00:33:32.840 Look at what's happening.

00:33:33.380 We started talking about the book, oh, wait for it, Camp of the Saints.

00:33:36.340 Dr. Swiker, do you buy Raheem's?

00:33:38.560 You're more of a cultural guy.

00:33:40.180 I mean, you're a historian, but you're a cultural guy.

00:33:42.020 You really look at cultural history.

00:33:43.680 Do you buy this?

00:33:45.220 Yeah, absolutely.

00:33:46.060 In fact, I have a good friend who transits between Utah and California, Los Angeles, and he just came back from California because I'm just struck by how much rage and hopelessness is in the eyes of the people out there.

00:34:02.840 I think not just New York and D.C., but obviously Los Angeles and San Francisco are in that same thing.

00:34:10.000 And the people are seeing their own more local governments in California and New York doing this incredibly horrible stuff and just not stopping, and they feel helpless.

00:34:21.820 And to a degree, I think they're blaming the rest of the country.

00:34:24.880 It's kind of that final stage before they get to self-awareness and blaming themselves.

00:34:29.680 But I wanted to bring up one more great example of where we're going with this, and that's Japan.

00:34:34.200 Japan just rejected the WHO treaty.

00:34:37.400 Now, in my rock and roll days, we played the Troubadour, and the real WHO came in and sat through our set at the Troubadour, and Pete Townsend slapped me on the back and said, hey, good show, Watt.

00:34:47.540 I'm not talking about that WHO.

00:34:49.200 I'm talking about the bad WHO, the World Health Organization.

00:34:52.840 And Japan said, no, we're out of this.

00:34:55.380 So everywhere around the world, we're seeing massive pushback against these tyrants, and it's a good thing.

00:35:01.540 Swaykert's been on this show, been on the old Breitbart show for 12 years now.

00:35:07.120 He's been waiting for that moment to get that in there because he's a rock and roller at heart.

00:35:13.400 Before I let you go, Dr. Swaykert, talk about the book because you're one of the great historians out there.

00:35:17.700 You're also one of the best guys looking at polls and looking at trends and looking at the math.

00:35:21.760 Tell me about Trump and actually at the state level.

00:35:24.040 You're seeing some positive trends here.

00:35:26.760 Yeah, well, Trump is just surging everywhere.

00:35:29.260 Again, that's why we are seeing the news about Sam Alito's flag, about the dust up between Marjorie Taylor Greene and AOC.

00:35:39.280 By the way, as a historian, I do have to inform you that in 1836 there was a fight on the Arkansas house floor in which two guys squared off with Bowie knives and one of them was left gutted on the floor.

00:35:52.180 So we aren't anywhere near that spot yet.

00:35:54.560 But the reason you're seeing all this other news is to detract or distract from Trump's incredible growing poll leads.

00:36:03.480 I don't read our side.

00:36:05.000 We got a lot of doomers on our side. 0.97

00:36:07.460 I tend to read the liberals like Ruiz Teixeira and James Carville, Mark Penn, Stan Greenberg.

00:36:13.740 All these guys are in a panic.

00:36:15.180 They're saying that Biden's already lost the working class of all colors, and it's getting worse.

00:36:21.700 But what we aren't seeing is a major surge in a lot of the state-level Republican politicians like Bernie Moreno in Ohio or Carrie Lake in Arizona.

00:36:32.180 I think the Sheehy in Montana has closed the gap and may even be ahead now.

00:36:37.240 But one of the reasons for this is that it's a two-step process.

00:36:42.320 People trust Trump, but they don't yet trust the Republican Party because they've been stabbed in the back for so long, especially this vote two weeks ago about the Ukraine, right?

00:36:52.820 Amen.

00:36:53.600 Dr. Schweikert, the book is amazing.

00:36:56.000 It's a great primer on where the world is today.

00:36:58.820 Where can everybody go to that?

00:36:59.840 And where can everybody go to your history site and social media?

00:37:02.260 Dr. Schweikert's got amazing analysis up there about polls all the time, so you want to be on top of what he's saying.

00:37:07.860 Where do they go?

00:37:08.860 Okay.

00:37:09.280 So I've got a history site, The Wild World of History, where you can get a full curriculum in U.S. and world history for high schoolers, homeschoolers.

00:37:17.300 And I've got a political site, The Wild World of Politics, where I give my more acerbic and inflammatory political views.

00:37:27.080 And, of course, our book is A Patriot's History of Globalism.

00:37:30.380 It's rise and decline, and, boy, it is so timely.

00:37:34.160 You've got to get this one.

00:37:35.380 Timing.

00:37:35.980 It is timely.

00:37:36.800 Dr. Schweikert, thank you for coming on here, man.

00:37:39.480 He's a five-tool player, as they say in baseball.

00:37:43.100 Do you agree with Schweikert that the polling shows that, one, number one, the Democrats are losing the working class, and it's multi-ethnic, it's multi-racial, right?

00:37:52.940 This is now people are focused on how the middle class and working class have been screwed.

00:37:56.560 But also, there is a gap between some of these Senate candidates, even in some of the House, that people are—this new coalition trusts Trump, but they don't transfer that trust right now to the Republican Party or Republican candidates.

00:38:09.920 And why would you?

00:38:11.180 I was talking about this last night with somebody, which we should have to get into last night, by the way.

00:38:16.160 But, you know, look at the caucus, right?

00:38:20.280 And look at what the caucus tries to represent.

00:38:22.220 Unfortunately, I still live on the Hill.

00:38:24.060 You have to deal with these people and their staffers all day, every day.

00:38:28.040 And even things that, to this audience, are obvious, right?

00:38:33.860 Like, hey, maybe we don't want to get into World War III.

00:38:37.340 Right, right.

00:38:37.860 Like, hey, maybe the eradication of the human species for Kharkov is not a good thing, right? 1.00

00:38:44.860 You still actually have to argue with Republicans on the Hill.

00:38:49.940 Oh, all the time.

00:38:50.760 That's the hardest argument.

00:38:51.920 But, like, read-in-the-face arguments about this stuff.

00:38:54.160 Why is that?

00:38:55.560 Well—

00:38:56.160 They are obsessed with this neocon policy, and they're really obsessed more than Israel.

00:39:02.900 People say, oh, neocon Israel.

00:39:04.100 It pales in comparison to Ukraine.

00:39:06.160 Ukraine is a fetish, right? 1.00

00:39:08.440 Ukraine—I'm talking about from the Republicans. 0.58

00:39:10.360 The Democrats forget it.

00:39:11.620 You know why they—you know, the guys who support the Bolsheviks, they hate the Russian people.

00:39:16.740 They hate the fact that the Russian people are not atheists.

00:39:19.220 I think we said this at the beginning of the war, right?

00:39:22.540 I think you asked me, you know, what has led us here?

00:39:26.800 And the answer is flippant in a lot of ways.

00:39:29.680 It's they needed another Iraq without brown people. 1.00

00:39:32.700 And by they, I mean the defense lobby, right? 0.81

00:39:36.540 It's that.

00:39:38.060 And everybody's gotten rich off general dynamics and so on and so forth.

00:39:41.080 And the perpetual nature of that industry and its lobbying interests in D.C. is kind of one of the biggest things about the populist movement and how the populist left and populist right unite around this issue is get all of those.

00:39:56.380 If you got all of those defense lobbyists and appropriators and all of that, if you got them out of D.C. or you limited their access or you limited their ability to spend cash to buy up the private room at Cafe Milano and to do all of those things, if you even just limited that, America would find itself losing fewer of its children to bloody wars abroad.

00:40:16.660 Ben Harnwell, the parents in Ukraine know what Raheem's talking about.

00:40:25.540 They're the ones that don't want their sons and daughters to go into the charnel house, correct?

00:40:29.160 Can you give us updates?

00:40:30.380 Is Kharkiv on the eve of falling yet, sir?

00:40:33.220 It's still on the verge of falling, Steve.

00:40:37.060 Good morning to you.

00:40:37.720 Good morning, Raheem.

00:40:38.480 The big story that I'm following right now is a follow on from what we covered on the show yesterday.

00:40:44.900 General Charles Q.

00:40:48.560 Excuse me.

00:40:49.420 General Brown, Charlie Brown, in fact, the chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff, said in an interview on an airplane to Brussels to the NATO headquarters yesterday,

00:41:00.280 contradicting the official by the administration line, said that we'll get there eventually, which is, say, NATO presence, American presence in Ukraine.

00:41:09.620 This was with regards to the formal trainers.

00:41:11.720 This is the combat.

00:41:12.400 This is the troops.

00:41:13.300 Yes.

00:41:13.740 150,000, quote unquote, trainers.

00:41:15.860 Yep.

00:41:16.820 There's more on that story that's come out.

00:41:19.220 And that was in the New York Times yesterday.

00:41:21.060 There's more now in the Wall Street Journal.

00:41:22.840 And that is, he said that, this is General Brown, said that Ukraine has formally asked for U.S. help in striking targets inside, deep inside the Russian border.

00:41:35.380 Now, formally, formally, officially, this has always been a big no-no from behalf of the Biden administration.

00:41:42.600 However, however, what General Brown said seems to be corroborated by something Anthony Blinken said just last week.

00:41:52.180 He said, and listen to this, Steve, because I think the duplicitousness here in the Secretary of State's response, a deflection to a journalist's question, is very, very illustrative.

00:42:01.860 He said, we have not encouraged or enabled strikes outside Ukraine.

00:42:06.420 But ultimately, Ukraine has to make decisions for itself about how it's going to conduct this war.

00:42:12.660 That is a flat-out lie.

00:42:14.660 The official U.S. position here, the Biden administration position, is Ukraine cannot use the armaments that the U.S. is providing to Ukraine to strike inside Russian territory.

00:42:27.020 This position here that Ukraine has to decide for itself can only be an invitation, basically, on behalf of Ukraine, to drag the United States into war.

00:42:36.860 Hang on one second.

00:42:38.200 I'll hold you through the break.

00:42:39.240 You have now 150,000, they're talking about 150,000 NATO troops as trainers, just like in Vietnam.

00:42:46.400 Now you've got the Wall Street Journal and the story that Ben and I talked about overnight, saying to target inside of Russia.

00:42:52.980 We are so rapidly heading towards, and we now know from their justice minister, hundreds of billions of dollars to get to victory.

00:43:01.660 Give me 30 seconds before we go to break.

00:43:03.520 Where are we on this?

00:43:04.320 Well, where we are is that we're looking for peace, right?

00:43:08.640 We're looking to January.

00:43:11.840 In fact, if you listen to what President Trump said yesterday, not even have to get as far as January to get that peace accord going,

00:43:18.840 while the defense lobbyists, the neocons, and the prevailing establishment are looking to escalate this war.

00:43:25.400 I said it when it first broke out.

00:43:27.380 This, for them, is a 20-year endeavor.

00:43:29.740 Short break.

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00:45:37.580 Raheem, I don't know if we can wait till – if you listen to Harnwell and the analyses he's doing, we are rapidly being pulled into this thing.

00:45:45.720 It's almost like they want to de-Trumpify the second term and get us so far into it that not even Trump can get us out.

00:45:52.420 Yeah, I'm not sure that scenario actually exists.

00:45:55.460 I do think they think it exists.

00:45:57.180 What do you mean they think it exists but it doesn't exist?

00:45:59.680 What do you mean by that?

00:46:00.220 You don't think they can get the combat troops in there, the trainers, and get guys shot and then call Article 5 or they start targeting into Russia.

00:46:08.320 And all of a sudden the Russians are going, hey, dude, you're targeting.

00:46:11.280 It's your weapons.

00:46:12.040 It's your ties.

00:46:12.740 And you've got guys working the missiles.

00:46:14.440 You're at war with us.

00:46:15.520 By the way, Article 5 is wildly misinterpreted.

00:46:18.960 Article 5 does not require an immediate –

00:46:21.460 Well, I agree with you technically, but do you think that they'll argue that?

00:46:25.340 They'll argue it for sure.

00:46:26.580 But I'm saying like in reality, right, the steps can still be taken no matter how far these people want to push into a third world war.

00:46:32.840 We can stop it.

00:46:33.520 It can be stopped.

00:46:35.120 It must be stopped.

00:46:36.660 And arguably, you know, they say we should expend any resources necessary to free Ukraine from this war.

00:46:43.180 No, we must expend any resources necessary to stop World War III is the actual point here. 0.74

00:46:49.860 But – and here's the thing.

00:46:51.600 Okay, so 10 years ago I was in Kiev.

00:46:54.100 I saw what I saw on the ground.

00:46:55.300 I saw the NGO class.

00:46:56.380 I saw the –

00:46:56.860 Hang on.

00:46:57.260 He was working for me at Breitbart.

00:46:58.640 And you say, hey, I've got to go there.

00:46:59.980 It's going to be the future.

00:47:00.500 You haven't started paying me yet, by the way.

00:47:01.240 It's going to be the future.

00:47:02.680 No, I think you haven't.

00:47:03.640 I said, what are you going to Ukraine for?

00:47:06.280 Who cares?

00:47:07.000 You know, we fought over that in World War II.

00:47:08.700 It's history.

00:47:09.360 He said no.

00:47:09.740 You do not understand that the EU, the guys in D.C., Victoria Nuland, people you'd never heard of, they are back at this, and this thing is going to drive the future of modern politics.

00:47:21.460 And, sir, to a large extent, you were right.

00:47:23.240 Yeah, I mean, at the time, the lens was this is their way of trying to stop a Russian resurgence, right, and Russian influence in the region.

00:47:33.040 And, you know, you can understand if you are an interventionist power, if you can understand that if you are NATO, that you are necessarily perturbed by nations in the Russian orbit having pro-Russian prime ministers and so on and so forth.

00:47:47.900 But so what do they do is they did a coup.

00:47:50.640 They did an open, outright coup.

00:47:53.860 The likes of which I thought had been consigned to the history books, quite frankly.

00:47:58.100 I mean, I thought, especially after what we had seen during the so-called Arab Spring, which, by the way, isn't it wonderful that we've got all these flourishing democracies in the Middle East now?

00:48:06.060 Fantastic.

00:48:07.420 The Ukraine overthrow of that, and I know you've been through it like a million times, but seeing it on the ground was really something else.

00:48:15.500 I mean, I was talking to, I mean, it was freezing cold, by the way.

00:48:18.600 We had to walk around with, well, by the way, I do this everywhere, but I had to walk around with a flask full of whiskey.

00:48:23.240 Just to take nips to keep warm.

00:48:25.540 I had three, four layers on, big leather jacket over.

00:48:28.100 And every sort of 50 yards, you're walking around, you'd have a trash can on fire, and people just huddled around it because it was so freezing cold out there.

00:48:37.160 And you got to talking to people that way.

00:48:38.960 And I talked to so many Ukrainians who were pro the overthrow of the pro-Russian regime, right?

00:48:49.240 But who were these people?

00:48:51.220 These were NGO operatives, Brussels funded in large part, and neo-Nazis in large part.

00:48:57.600 I mean, they were so neo-Nazi in large part that they were, like, openly joking about it with us and trying to intimidate us in a little bit of a jocular manner.

00:49:06.980 But listen, so we did that, called that.

00:49:08.960 We've called everything up until this point.

00:49:10.540 I'm going to call something else for you here right now.

00:49:13.660 Ukraine, the plan, what's the plan for the future of Ukraine?

00:49:17.100 Because clearly the plan isn't to keep young Ukrainian men alive to rebuild the nation after all of this is said and done.

00:49:24.780 And I think your parents understand that.

00:49:26.220 That's already getting them the hell out of Ukraine. 1.00

00:49:28.240 There's nothing left.

00:49:30.460 So who do you think they intend to import into Ukraine to rebuild the country?

00:49:37.120 If I can put it so bluntly, Ukraine will be the first African nation in Europe in 10 to 15 years' time, if this thing continues the way it is. 0.99

00:49:45.860 They're going to mass import.

00:49:48.360 They've got a base for mass migration like you've never seen before, and they have a moral imperative for it as well.

00:49:55.500 We have to rebuild, of course.

00:49:56.840 We need all these people.

00:49:57.740 Bring them in there.

00:49:58.640 Academics and doctors and so forth.

00:49:59.180 Just like here in the United States, they're arguing that the illegal alien invasion is what's keeping the economy even going.

00:50:05.860 Ben Harnwell, your thoughts.

00:50:07.040 You've covered this.

00:50:07.800 You and Rahim have been dead right on everything about this since the month before the war when you guys called the shots. 0.53

00:50:13.800 Your current assessment, sir, since we had an assassination—they're trying to do the guns of August this week with the assassination attempt.

00:50:20.300 Well, listening to Rahim talking about Ukraine as being the first African nation in 10 to 15 years' time in mainland Europe is an interesting proposition.

00:50:30.620 However, my direct experience of the Africans who are coming into this continent illegally, not legal workers, but illegally, is that they're not coming here to work, and they're certainly not coming to rebuild Ukraine. 0.90

00:50:43.780 They're coming here to live at existing indigenous taxpayers' expense. 1.00

00:50:49.520 You know, I thought I was being spicy.

00:50:52.040 And obviously to vote left-wing in whichever nation-state that they're coming in.

00:50:59.400 It's a due-fold purpose.

00:51:01.280 So I don't—you know, unless they're actually going to be physically put in cages and taken against their will to Ukraine with whips cracking over their heads, told to work and to construct, they ain't going to Ukraine.

00:51:11.420 I mean, that's—but it's an interesting problem—it's an interesting—Rahim, it's an edgy solution to a Europe-wide problem.

00:51:19.500 But his point—we're going to go to break, and I want you guys to stick.

00:51:22.800 But the point is, the parents in Ukraine—what's obvious right now in all of this is that the manpower to fight the war in Ukraine from the Ukrainians—and, hey, these people have been brave.

00:51:33.740 They've been courageous.

00:51:34.520 But the parents are making a rational choice here, and they're saying, yes, there's not going to be anything left to build over, and I'm not going to throw my son and daughter into the charnel house here, right?

00:51:44.420 I'm not going to—this is why for people making $900 a month, they're paying $5,000 and $10,000 to get their kids out, to get their kids to Ireland, to get their kids to Holland.

00:51:55.500 And you're seeing a big blowback there now in those countries, right, in some of the frontline nations.

00:52:01.740 But the point is, this is all driven by the fact that the people that have the most at stake understand the corruption and understand the con, and that's why they're voting right now to do it.

00:52:13.260 Just hold on, guys.

00:52:14.200 We're going to be jammed in the second hour, but I've got to finish this.

00:52:16.600 Ukraine is—

00:52:17.320 As a cliffhanger.

00:52:19.480 Ben, I'll tell you why I'm right after the break.

00:52:21.680 Okay.

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Bannon's War Room - May 18, 2024

Episode 3620： Ukraine Begs For NATO Troops

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