Bannon's War Room - Episode 3637： The Modern Era Of Man

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.600 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.840 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:17.120 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:19.040 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.480 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.220 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:23.160 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.420 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:00:27.840 Mega Media.

00:00:28.740 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.620 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.360 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.740 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:00:47.900 All of a sudden, you're creating something that changes everybody's perception of what is possible.

00:01:02.340 In four years, that's my deadline.

00:01:05.820 It's never been done.

00:01:06.720 It's never been done.

00:01:19.780 It's never been done.

00:01:21.480 It's never been done.

00:01:24.540 It's never been done.

00:01:26.660 Don't let people tell you that art's like all about how you feel.

00:01:43.260 It's a massive bull.

00:01:44.860 If you don't know what you're doing, all you're doing is like throwing like paint up on the wall and saying it's a masterpiece.

00:01:50.620 New Jersey-based sculptor Sabin Howard has been commissioned to create the World War I Memorial.

00:01:56.860 An exclusive look tonight at the making of America's new World War I Memorial.

00:02:02.340 And the sculptor Sabin Howard considered the best in the world.

00:02:05.580 I just want people to know that you're referred to as the greatest living sculptor.

00:02:10.300 America's Michelangelo.

00:02:11.500 I'm responsible to humanity.

00:02:22.920 I'm responsible to history.

00:02:26.740 The digital is a great tool to expedite and create an armature.

00:02:31.900 It is absolutely not art.

00:02:33.800 Art has to come from the human experience and has to be created through the physicality of our hands and our mind. 0.63

00:02:50.780 I can have a platform and I can talk about the bull crap that Jeff Koons and Damien Hirst create.

00:02:56.940 And if you destroy Western art and culture, then what are you going to replace it with? 0.75

00:03:01.960 Building and uplifting are hard.

00:03:06.460 They're hard because the time it takes to establish mastery in art form is a lifetime's voyage.

00:03:14.300 I was commissioned to commemorate a war.

00:03:19.520 This war is one of the most horrible meat grinding moments in all of human history

00:03:25.660 because all of a sudden you throw in machinery and this industrialized destructive force comes in

00:03:34.040 and skin and bones and flesh is no match for metal artillery shells being wobbed at human beings as they march forward.

00:03:44.660 It's really important that the visitor have a visceral reaction to what they see.

00:03:51.680 I know they've already decided what they're going to say, so this is an act of pro forma.

00:03:57.160 This is right next to the White House.

00:03:58.860 The entire east side is not connected to the rest of the park.

00:04:10.860 The scheme that we've already accepted has been presented to us several months later

00:04:18.040 without the alterations and the visions that we ask for.

00:04:22.720 What we did was to make something that speaks about human consciousness and the human heart.

00:04:28.960 Once the threshold is crossed and you walk inside, it's like this sense of belonging to something bigger than oneself.

00:04:39.400 Nothing else to say.

00:04:52.720 Okay, Saturday, 25 May in the year of early 2024, Memorial Day weekend.

00:04:59.940 This is our Memorial Day weekend special.

00:05:01.640 We're going to have our Memorial Day special on Monday with Patrick K. O'Donnell.

00:05:07.700 I'll be joined shortly by a couple of Englishmen who I revered their thinking and them as people.

00:05:14.460 Raheem Kassam and Ben Harnwell.

00:05:15.800 We're going to talk about the current Third World War, the kinetic part that we've already started, 0.92

00:05:21.440 but also get their thoughts on particularly World War I.

00:05:26.060 It wasn't called World War I until 20, 30 years later during World War II.

00:05:32.000 It was called the Great War, the war to end all wars.

00:05:34.800 We've never really had in this country a memorial for it.

00:05:39.820 We've got the great artist who conceived it and is now constructing it

00:05:43.080 and will eventually place it in Washington, D.C. later this year.

00:05:47.500 Sabin Howard joins us.

00:05:48.620 Sabin, one of the things we're going to talk about this weekend,

00:05:51.480 we're definitely going to drill down with Patrick K. O'Donnell on Mondays, this whole thing,

00:05:55.500 because he's going to go through, as he traditionally does, he's done this show with me for 10 years.

00:05:59.920 We talk about the Tomb of the Unknown.

00:06:02.240 He wrote the book called The Unknowns, and we go through Arlington National Cemetery,

00:06:06.780 the unknowns, but particularly how the bodies were selected,

00:06:09.220 how we followed on France and Great Britain that had these monuments to unknown soldiers.

00:06:18.360 But part of it was because of the trauma, because the World War I kind of came out of nowhere.

00:06:24.680 I tell people from the day of the assassination of the Archduke and his wife,

00:06:30.360 which is the 28th of June, I think it was,

00:06:32.180 that made the front page of the Times of London, which was the definitive paper in the world.

00:06:37.000 It was not on the front page of the Times of London again until the 28th of July,

00:06:44.200 when essentially the mobilizations began of these empires, which really couldn't be stopped.

00:06:50.520 And as Tuchman lays out in the Guns of August, this thing started.

00:06:54.500 And by in the next 90 to 100 days, you already had almost a million casualties.

00:06:59.520 I mean, this destroyed the Victorian era and the technologies overwhelmed people.

00:07:04.640 That trauma, that traumatic impact, we've never really recovered from as a civilization or a society.

00:07:12.680 And Saban, you now have the mandate to be able to manifest this for the American people

00:07:17.760 who have never really had a monument.

00:07:19.980 And quite frankly, I don't think I've ever really delved into the trauma that World War I caused in our country, sir.

00:07:26.020 Well, we are living after 100 years, after 22 million people are decimated.

00:07:36.500 So we are still recoiling and reacting to that tragic event.

00:07:43.820 What happened was that there is the elimination of a divine order,

00:07:48.880 the idea that we are a unified world interwoven,

00:07:53.360 each one of us part of a greater whole.

00:07:56.300 The idea of God is decimated, and you have the springing up of nihilism.

00:08:01.700 Camus, Albert Camus in France, Sartre in France, these are nihilists.

00:08:07.640 They say there is no God.

00:08:10.080 We are now at the beginning of the modern era.

00:08:13.480 Man is alienated alone,

00:08:15.280 he is no longer interconnected with his country or the people and the community around him.

00:08:24.120 And what does that sound like?

00:08:26.260 Doesn't that sound like what we are being force-fed today by the media, by the narrative?

00:08:32.300 And I'm specifically just, I've been very, very hit hard by this,

00:08:38.380 because as an artist that began studying in the 80s,

00:08:43.600 I could not find the education that I needed.

00:08:46.360 I was, it was a miracle that I found the people that handed me the tools

00:08:50.100 to make something of this importance and sacredness could be played forward.

00:08:55.320 Because I am in lineage to what happened before World War I.

00:08:59.760 I go back to the Greco-Roman tradition, the Renaissance.

00:09:02.640 Those are principles and standards that this country was built upon, Western civilization.

00:09:08.800 And I am here to move forward with that message,

00:09:11.900 that art is about us and the elevation of human consciousness and the sacred.

00:09:17.680 And I want to say something here that's very important.

00:09:20.160 Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire.

00:09:26.220 And that is what this sculpture will do.

00:09:28.080 It'll play forward the importance of mankind and how we are all interconnected.

00:09:35.020 Now, if we go back to World War I, our troops, 116,000 of them died in that bloody conflict.

00:09:42.880 And of those soldiers that died, that did not return home to our shores,

00:09:48.520 they left behind something that we could play forward.

00:09:52.440 It is our freedom that we will celebrate this Monday on Memorial Day.

00:09:56.520 So I want you all to stop.

00:09:59.040 Stop for one moment and just give thanks to those that have made your freedom possible,

00:10:06.100 the ability for you to manifest your destiny.

00:10:09.200 That is what this country is built upon, upon the Constitution,

00:10:12.860 upon the ideas that you can choose the life of your creation.

00:10:18.040 And that is something that we need to protect with this.

00:10:20.300 And I protect that in art by making art that is sacred, that represents those values.

00:10:27.200 Thank you, Steve.

00:10:27.860 Now, is the loss of that, that loss of that connection, the loss of the sacred nature of art

00:10:38.580 and how it manifests itself in our lives, was that, was World War I and the brutality of it

00:10:47.020 and the suddenness of it and the scale of it, is that what did it?

00:10:50.440 Well, it's my opinion that you lose that many people, you lose your village.

00:10:57.680 And we're talking about Europeans here because we basically had just a bloody nose. 1.00

00:11:02.120 They took it pretty badly when 22 million people were, you know, vanished, evaporated from the planet.

00:11:08.260 And you no longer have the village that you were born in.

00:11:10.700 You no longer have the family that you were born in.

00:11:13.180 You no longer have that home, the job.

00:11:15.440 The whole world is destroyed.

00:11:19.340 Nature has been just, it's like a bulldozer came.

00:11:23.160 And if you look at the destruction that came from World War I physically to the planet in Europe,

00:11:28.260 we cannot comprehend it.

00:11:30.220 If you look at 9-11, 3,000 people died.

00:11:33.440 Okay, 3,000 people used to die every hour during World War I.

00:11:38.280 You get battles where 50,000 people are no longer there by afternoon.

00:11:42.420 So that is the end of making figures that look like what came out of the Renaissance.

00:11:49.860 Now, the standards of the Renaissance are about making things that are connected to God.

00:11:54.640 There is a sense of a huge hierarchy of all these little small parts that a Renaissance sculpture contains.

00:12:02.640 It's a very complex system that mimics the way the world and the universe are put together.

00:12:07.280 So not to be too didactic, okay, that's gone.

00:12:10.300 And you start getting artists coming out of France like Marcel Duchamp who makes something called like the urinal.

00:12:16.040 He takes a pissing pot and he states that's a piece of art.

00:12:20.740 It pokes fun at us, who we are as human beings.

00:12:23.960 And it's about the ironic.

00:12:25.460 It celebrates the inane, the mundane, things that are not sacred.

00:12:31.400 And so this is a complete decimation.

00:12:34.660 And then this continues for the next 100 years until the United States picked this up with the MoMA and Doubleday Books with the Rockefellers.

00:12:44.740 And all of a sudden you are doing a 180 away from art that actually celebrates something of value, tradition. 0.98

00:12:53.220 And it says, let's throw out the baby with the bathwater and we're going to start fresh here and make crap. 1.00

00:12:59.380 And so if it looks like crap, smells like crap, it must be crap. 0.99

00:13:02.620 And I don't think a lot of artists are willing to stick their neck out and say that. 0.99

00:13:07.340 I'm going to do that because my calling card is 60 feet long and 25 tons.

00:13:12.020 And I got something to back up my words.

00:13:17.120 It's actually extraordinary.

00:13:18.220 We'll talk about that when we get back.

00:13:20.320 We're going to take a break here in a minute, but the extraordinary thing about all this, Sabin, is that you were actually selected and then were able to execute all within, I think, four years.

00:13:31.240 And the scale and beauty of your piece and how it's come together is also, I think, just leaves people in awe of how this actually happened.

00:13:40.020 And to go into Washington, D.C., which there is some magnificent, magnificent sculptures, although there haven't been a lot of magnificent ones that have been done, I don't know, in the last, I don't know, 30, 40, 50 years.

00:13:55.320 Most of these were done, I think, before World War I.

00:13:58.620 We're going to take a short commercial break.

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00:14:09.120 Remember, what we're talking about, we start off with the World War I and talk about the short 20th century, 1914 to 1989.

00:14:18.020 That was a time of turbulence.

00:14:20.680 We're in another one as Rahim and Ben will walk us through.

00:14:24.340 The kinetic part of the Third World War has already started, and it's already left.

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00:14:54.340 Short break, the great artist Saban Howard on the other side.

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00:16:11.120 War Room.

00:16:12.060 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:17.060 Saban, you drew inspiration, obviously, from the Renaissance and from the greats that you studied.

00:16:22.120 But also something that inspired you and particularly one of the reasons I think you were selected was even the panel.

00:16:29.340 Some of the some of the most powerful sculpture in Washington, D.C.

00:16:33.800 Talk about that and then how the next last four years.

00:16:37.500 Where do we what have you gone through?

00:16:39.300 Where do we stand?

00:16:40.100 Because we want people now to get the countdown of when this is going to happen,

00:16:43.660 because I think we're within 90 days, if my memory serves me correctly.

00:16:47.240 That is correct.

00:16:49.640 I was I was really lucky enough to have Edwin Fountain, who was part of the Centennial Commission.

00:16:56.100 They were the organization that put out the 360 global team competition.

00:17:03.220 And we were the lucky guys that won this commission.

00:17:07.380 And Edwin's taste was towards the Grant Memorial.

00:17:13.520 This is done by the sculptor Schrader.

00:17:14.880 Schrader dropped dead after 20 years, two weeks before that memorial was unveiled to the public from the stress of creating this project.

00:17:22.500 And that sculpture that stands in front of the Capitol was probably the best sculpture in Washington, D.C.

00:17:28.520 And I'll tell you here why it's the best sculpture.

00:17:31.040 OK, first of all, it shows human beings in an artillery wagon pulling artillery through the mud.

00:17:38.000 And there are horses that you can you can smell the sweat on their flesh.

00:17:45.080 It is truly what visual art should be.

00:17:49.060 It's it's a visual narrative.

00:17:51.280 It returns back to presenting art in a way that the common man can understand.

00:17:57.240 You don't have to go read a book about the Schrader Memorial to understand it.

00:18:00.880 And that is what great art does.

00:18:03.560 It's first and foremost, it's visual.

00:18:06.060 So that's what I was asked to follow in the footsteps.

00:18:08.520 So I took that as my mission and my task.

00:18:11.560 And I completely revamped myself as an artist because I had to grow on the job through the training and the process of reaching that final iteration, which is a soldier's journey.

00:18:22.380 I did 25 iterations.

00:18:24.840 Then I had to go through the Commission of Fine Arts, which is a bureaucracy in Washington, which was a tremendous challenge.

00:18:32.160 We passed that hurdle never to turn back.

00:18:35.360 And I began sculpting finally in August of 2019 the life size full scale clay that would be cast in the U.K. in bronze and then shipped back this summer to Washington, D.C. in July.

00:18:51.700 This August, I will be assembling the four panels together to make that one panel telling the whole story of that soldier that leaves home, enters into the Brotherhood of Arms, and then battle.

00:19:06.720 And from that point, he is shell-shocked.

00:19:09.820 Now, he is an allegory for the United States.

00:19:12.700 He is an allegory for the world and a transformation that occurred that went from that divine order to an alienated, chaotic, you know, nihilistic vision of what and who we are.

00:19:25.900 And come the night of September 13th, which is General Pershing's birthday, we will have a candlelit vigil that will celebrate and be first light on that sculpture for the general public.

00:19:43.780 Sun sets on September 13th at 7.19 p.m.

00:19:50.380 That is the time that that vigil will begin.

00:19:55.820 Now, I used a lot of veterans from our service in this project.

00:19:59.800 I used Navy SEALs, Marines, Rangers.

00:20:03.800 And I used them specifically because their faces and their morphology carried their history.

00:20:10.500 It carried their sacrifice in service of our country to protect our freedoms that we so often take for granted.

00:20:21.540 And those soldiers are now immortalized in bronze on that wall forever.

00:20:29.940 This project is the first time that the story of soldiers leaving home, entering battle, and then returning home is told.

00:20:39.480 So it is a historical piece.

00:20:42.220 And it is also a universal piece where any soldier from any part of the world that comes to Washington, D.C.

00:20:50.540 to learn our history will understand.

00:20:54.340 And so I am hoping that all you patriots will show up on September 13th.

00:20:58.480 And I want to add to this that my wife, Tracy Slatton, who is part of the War Room Posse, will be delivering a documentary on the creation of this sculpture next spring after the election.

00:21:13.920 So there you have it.

00:21:15.480 Thank you, Steve, for giving me the time today.

00:21:17.180 I'm really honored.

00:21:17.920 Hang on.

00:21:20.440 So on the evening of the 13th, Pershing's birthday, you have the vigil starting at 719.

00:21:25.900 Is there also going to be something the next day?

00:21:29.200 Are people going to see an unveiling in the daylight?

00:21:31.700 Or are you going to unveil it that night at sunset?

00:21:34.260 That night we will unveil there is a private event with commissioners, government officials, and the commissions involved in the project in the afternoon.

00:21:48.820 And then it is open to the public that evening.

00:21:52.460 And the next day it will be officially open to the public for forever or for as long as Washington, D.C. stands.

00:22:01.160 When do you actually ship from the United Kingdom?

00:22:07.580 Has it already been on vessels?

00:22:09.100 When does it actually ship on the vessels itself to the United States?

00:22:14.340 Well, right now we are slamming at the foundry.

00:22:17.900 We are about to finish off by probably the last week of June.

00:22:23.680 We will complete the sculpture.

00:22:25.280 I guarantee you we are on time on budget.

00:22:27.520 And on June 22nd, that sculpture should be completed at the end of that week.

00:22:33.580 That Monday right after that, we're going to start cutting it back into those four sections.

00:22:39.200 And those four sections will be put into two shipping containers.

00:22:42.700 And then it will travel via ship across the ocean now to probably Elizabeth, New Jersey, because it can't go to Baltimore anymore, given the fact that the bridge has disappeared.

00:22:55.640 And so now it will arrive probably last week of July.

00:23:00.580 August is all of the installation, which is lifting these pieces out with a crane out of those shipping containers and reassembling and re-patining.

00:23:12.920 And that will be a task in itself.

00:23:16.120 And we are working on lighting so that this sculpture will have a real footprint, a visual footprint in terms of like how it's seen at night.

00:23:25.280 I wanted to do something that was very, very dramatic.

00:23:28.380 The figures will pop off of the back wall so the contrast will be increased.

00:23:32.580 And I'm telling you this because I'm making something that follows in the footsteps of Western civilization, but you need to play it forward.

00:23:43.040 And so what is our favorite type of medium in terms of the art world today?

00:23:48.320 It's film.

00:23:49.260 So I made a bronze film that you can actually walk from left to right, and any eighth grader is going to get it.

00:23:56.620 And that was the whole point of this.

00:23:58.020 It's a sculpture for we, the people, for everyone.

00:24:01.460 It's not for the people that are the elite, the ones that, you know, have to go read the book and write the book to understand it.

00:24:07.100 It's for everyone.

00:24:08.420 You don't need to be an art aficionado to get this one.

00:24:12.160 This one is – it's obvious, but I'm going to tell you it also has a great deal of depth and carries a lot of allegorical symbolism concerning our country and a voyage that we passed through historically during World War I.

00:24:25.240 And it was not really paid attention to in this country because it was usurped by the Great Depression and by World War II.

00:24:33.280 So this is really something that is long overdue, and I think that it will have a tremendous impact historically because it's – I am a strong component of maintaining and really taking care of history because history is our culture.

00:24:48.420 And if you destroy your culture, you create a void, and why is that happening right now?

00:24:55.260 Because there are attempts to rewrite history, and that is not the direction that this culture will go.

00:25:03.620 Why did it take – I think the World War II monument came about in the early aughts to that extent, and then World War I just came up.

00:25:14.840 You did – why did it take so long to do monuments to the two great wars that really – with the Civil War, defined this country?

00:25:23.260 Why did it take so long?

00:25:24.360 We worked backwards.

00:25:27.580 If you remember the Vietnam Memorial, which was done under the Reagan era, that was – received a tremendous amount of publicity.

00:25:37.060 And from there, it went backwards.

00:25:39.740 We went then to Korean War Memorial and the World War II Memorial, and then finally the World War I Memorial.

00:25:47.000 And this has been a very strange way of looking at things.

00:25:51.600 I would wish that our culture had more reverence for the history of this country.

00:25:58.500 And perhaps with shows like yours and pieces of art like mine, we can actually change the trajectory of the way general public and the narrative is written.

00:26:08.780 Because if you do not have history of a country, you do not have anything that brings all of us together.

00:26:16.200 Our history is what unifies us, that we can stand under.

00:26:21.400 And I would like to add to that that the soldiers that went off to World War I were neither Democrats or Republicans.

00:26:30.940 They were red-blooded because all of their blood was red Americans.

00:26:36.940 That is what they were.

00:26:38.220 They were not one thing or another.

00:26:40.440 They were Americans.

00:26:41.200 Sabin, where do they go to your website?

00:26:46.940 Where do they go to find out about Tracy's film?

00:26:49.080 Where do they go to find out everything about this project and what else you're working on?

00:26:52.940 We could look at Sabin, S-A-B-I-N, Howard.com.

00:26:57.280 Or you can find me on Instagram at SabinHowardSculpture.

00:27:00.540 And I'm now on Twitter at SabinHowardSculpture again.

00:27:07.880 I look forward to hearing back from you people.

00:27:10.940 This sculpture is for you.

00:27:12.480 It's not for me.

00:27:13.860 This is about our country and we the people.

00:27:16.620 Let's everybody get in and get into the comments section and start engaging with Sabin.

00:27:24.160 We're hopefully going to do some live remotes from the actual foundry and then follow the entire trek here to the United States.

00:27:30.720 SabinHoward, thank you very much.

00:27:32.180 Honored to have you on here, sir, to kick off our Memorial Day weekend.

00:27:35.580 Thank you, Steve.

00:27:39.140 Thank you, brother.

00:27:39.840 Raheem Kassam and Ben Harnwell, two of the smartest guys I know, have deemed to be available to us.

00:27:51.720 And we're going to take advantage of that.

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00:29:31.100 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:29:36.440 Okay, welcome back.

00:29:37.460 We left last night's show with a discussion of how the kinetic or part, two parts.

00:29:43.460 One, the kinetic war started.

00:29:45.580 Our allies know about it.

00:29:47.100 You can't hide it anymore.

00:29:48.600 We ought to get it up on the table and talk about it.

00:29:50.400 Also about Nikki Haley and even further information of her and President Trump at the rally.

00:29:57.140 And you've got the New York Times Day, Tom Cotton, probably the biggest neocon hawk in the Senate as a potential VP.

00:30:03.820 We'll get to all that in a minute.

00:30:05.080 But Raheem, I'll start with you and bring in Ben.

00:30:08.360 You two are Englishmen and from our mother country.

00:30:12.320 One of the things we talk about, and I wanted to kick off with Sabin on the World War I monument, memorial.

00:30:20.120 And Philip Patrick K. O'Donnell, we spent a lot of time, we're going to spend a lot of time with him on Monday going through this topic as we always do.

00:30:29.680 But World War I totally and completely changed the direction of not just Western civilization but particularly England.

00:30:38.160 And you guys have remembered the trauma there and you remembered it and it changed that nation.

00:30:44.360 Walk me through that in particular way you – because your November 11th, Armistice Day, is your Memorial Day where you honor – not your veterans, but you honor your war dead.

00:30:56.120 And that's the difference here.

00:30:57.100 Memorial Day weekend, we want to remind everybody, veteran – I'm a veteran.

00:31:00.160 Veterans Day for us is November 11th.

00:31:03.280 Memorial Day is where we honor our war dead.

00:31:05.320 And it's a very different commemoration.

00:31:08.860 Raheem Ghassam.

00:31:11.680 Yeah, Steve, I think – I mean there's so many things there as well.

00:31:15.620 And obviously just to pick up on a point that another of your guests made over the course of this week was that we are accustomed to showing that by wearing a poppy, right?

00:31:27.400 The red flower found in Flanders Fields.

00:31:29.620 And it's one of the most critical ways, obviously, that everybody can show for that day, that week, that weekend, that we're all thinking of exactly what was just said, right?

00:31:45.400 The preservation of fire, not ashes.

00:31:50.040 And, you know, there was so much lost institutionally, technologically, you know, financially.

00:32:00.000 But, of course, as we mostly remember today, so much lost in blood.

00:32:05.420 And, you know, a friend of mine once said, and I think I've said it on the show a bunch of times before, that, you know, were so many not lost, especially in the First World War, especially the upper echelons of British civil society, the landowners, the aristocracy, the thought leaders, the generals.

00:32:26.840 We would not have a current political settlement as we currently have it.

00:32:32.660 It turned everything completely upside down.

00:32:36.380 And it laid the groundwork really for the current political settlement in Western Europe, the financial settlement, the mass migration that you see taking place today, the political settlement, the economy.

00:32:48.640 Obviously, Britain losing its empire geopolitically, it had huge, huge ramifications in the ascent of America on the world stage as a result of all of that.

00:32:59.700 So the memories are not just about, you know, what happened on those battlefields, but what flowed from those battlefields additionally.

00:33:11.380 And it bears repeating and it bears coverage every single year.

00:33:15.020 Before I go to Ben, you know, I've been getting up to speed with Saban's monument coming out, the World War I again and going back and reading some of the things I'd read years ago.

00:33:29.680 But I was reading this book about the beginning phases of it.

00:33:33.460 And in 1914, the carnage was so bad for the British, the British Expeditionary Force from mid-August when they got over there.

00:33:45.880 The carnage was so bad, Raheem, that Burke's peerage, I think of 1914, was delayed almost a year in being published because there had been so much slaughter.

00:33:59.380 I think, you know, they had, I mean, dozens and dozens of, you know, dukes and viscounts and knights.

00:34:07.300 What did that do to British society?

00:34:09.940 Has, did British society ever recover from its leadership class being decimated because it got worse as the war went on?

00:34:16.580 And what's shocking is that with this carnage, with the advances in artillery and machine guns and the submarines and airplanes and tanks, everything came in.

00:34:23.960 And there was virtually unquestioning.

00:34:26.940 I mean, it was virtually unquestioning of people just going over in this trench warfare and these slaughters that, you know, massacres of men who almost unquestioningly went and just gave everything where it looked like it was very little actually being won in no glory, sir.

00:34:49.660 Yeah, that's right. I mean, there is no world in which you had those lineages surviving and that Britain looks like it does today. 0.54

00:34:57.280 Just no world whatsoever that that's the case.

00:35:00.180 There's no world in which you have those, as you say, you know, the highest part of British civil society.

00:35:07.420 In a lot of senses, the smartest people in the room, the highest IQ, the strategists, the generals, the viscounts, the landowners, where then you have a post-war settlement, a post-World War II settlement that includes the establishing of a socialized health care system that effectively annually bankrupts the nation.

00:35:30.260 Now, where you have the opening up of borders to all parts of the globe without any level of discernment or discrimination and where you have, if you don't mind me saying, a singular superpower on the world stage for the next several decades to this very day.

00:35:51.840 So, you know, the world would look very different indeed.

00:35:56.620 Ben Harnwell, your thoughts about this? 0.70

00:35:59.700 Well, talking about the First World War, specifically following on from what Rahim said, it's very much the idea of lines being led by donkeys.

00:36:10.000 And it's absolutely clear, I think, that Western civilization lost, in an ontological sense, its innocence in the First World War.

00:36:20.700 That is, after 2,000 years, there'd been wars all the time, there'd been plagues, there'd been catastrophes.

00:36:25.720 But there was something about the First World War, about the sheer lack of value placed on human life on such a large scale that we really lost the ability to think that there was anything morally contained within Western civilization, within the direction of history.

00:36:47.740 You know, the Whig sense of progress, the whole thing was exploded in the First World War just because of the senseless slaughter. 0.97

00:36:57.540 Now, coming to Memorial Day itself, you know, we have the secular state has basically what in Catholic sense would be liturgical dates.

00:37:08.220 But the reasoning is the same. Catholic Church has Corpus Christi, for example, or the assumption of the Virgin Mary on 15th of August.

00:37:18.820 And you have these things where Catholics get together. Historically, I mean, it goes back into deep medieval ages, these things.

00:37:25.280 And the whole community, the whole church community would come together and just remember something important about the spiritual journey.

00:37:32.580 Well, in terms of secular civic religion, it's exactly the same. You have President's Day, you have Memorial Days.

00:37:39.640 And these are ideas where everyone in the community can come together and remember something very important about where it is and how it got there and as part of its civic spiritual life.

00:37:54.160 And as you were saying, Steve, the point about Memorial Day is to spend a moment in prayer and reflection and gratitude.

00:38:02.160 You said that we do this on the on the on the on the on the on the 11th of November.

00:38:06.480 But the point is the same, just to remember the fact that we have things that we absolutely take for granted.

00:38:13.100 And of course, because because they're free, we tend not to put a value on them.

00:38:17.220 One of those things is liberty. So, yeah, it's absolutely right that we take a moment and thanks silently in the deeper recesses of our hearts.

00:38:26.720 The sacrifices people have made in all wars, but especially the First and Second World War, so that we can be free, even if we're squandering that legacy and that sacrifice.

00:38:39.300 We talk about the squandering it, Rahim, correct me if I'm wrong, but these very moving and incredible monuments and memorials you have not just to leaders, but to actual the soldiers themselves.

00:38:52.640 Haven't these been defaced when you have these these protests and these riots?

00:38:57.080 And this is why I keep saying it's against Western civilization and against America, this the Marxist jihadist protests that have overwhelmed central London.

00:39:08.100 Haven't they actually defaced some of these memorials?

00:39:12.180 Yeah, this seems to be just to make it clear for everybody, not not corollary.

00:39:18.980 It's not by accident. They're not just in the way and getting somehow trampled or defaced.

00:39:25.980 These have been the memorials, whether they are to individuals, whether they I mean, the animals of the World War's memorial, the women of the World War memorials, the cenotaph itself, the big memorial where the poppy wreaths are laid every year, as you say, for our own Memorial Day and our memorial services.

00:39:49.260 The statue of Churchill in Parliament Square, you name it, they are both the active target of the far left and the Islamists, the red green alliance that we've warned about. 1.00

00:40:04.040 Well, I mean, we've been talking about this now, it feels like for almost two decades to say, and I certainly, you know, that would have put me age wise, by the way, graduating high school and going into university.

00:40:17.420 And that was about the same time that I recognized that this was going on.

00:40:20.540 That was about the same time that I started getting involved in politics and recognizing that that unholy allowance of Western civilization haters was was was was actively trying to tear that stuff down.

00:40:33.560 And by the way, you know, I've been now in the United States for nine odd years and have written multiple times about the the excuseless attempts to tear down statues like those in Arlington National Cemetery, you know, the Moses Ezekiel statue of the North and the South coming together.

00:40:53.960 These will remain targets. And in fact, you know, this was why it was so important under the previous Trump administration that he and his team that, you know, they actually talked about building new monuments and building new statues and preserving history and heritage rather than allowing the left to tear it down so so wantonly.

00:41:13.300 Ben, along that lines is is Sabin Howard on is it is it magnificent what he's doing or could you argue it's a full Zarin?

00:41:25.820 You can't go back to that. And as much as we want to go back to that, that the 20th century, the modernity struck and tore it apart.

00:41:33.980 And so there there's a gap, there's a breach, a scar that can't be healed, that that disconnects us from the Renaissance and disconnects us from a more sacred age like the Middle Ages.

00:41:46.340 Well, a scar is the correct word, I think, because it's a historical biological remembrance within skin of wounds at a previous time that had been absorbed by the system, but which have subsequently healed, but healed in such a way that you can still see the effects of the original injury, even if the consequences of that are no longer felt.

00:42:13.340 So I think that that scar is absolutely the correct word when we're talking about human tragedies that are no longer within living memory.

00:42:22.740 It's a scar. It's a scar, Steve, on the collective psyche, on the collective consciousness.

00:42:29.700 And that's good because it reminds us of what we've done to ourselves and to others and ought to give us some prudence.

00:42:38.020 And, of course, it's not doing, you know, you, Raheem, myself, were talking, I think, on last night's show about the potential for a nuclear war setting off with regards to Ukraine.

00:42:49.580 One would have hoped, having a conversation on this context, that looking at the tragedies, the human tragedies of war, we might actually take a moment to reflect and say, OK, we'll look at these psychological scars on our culture and try not to repeat the mistakes that our forefathers made.

00:43:10.920 But that's probably why you said, is this a false errand? Well, look, look, the cost of losing is total annihilation, in which case there's nobody going to be pointing the finger laughing at us.

00:43:23.360 So let's do the false errand and hope, with the grace of Jesus Christ in heaven, that we're actually successful.

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00:45:36.460 Make sure you honor a nation.

00:45:39.520 Always embrace the flag, the American flag, not the one with five, the star with five points,

00:45:44.040 not the Islamic eight-point star that flies with the capital in Minnesota.

00:45:49.920 Ben Harwell, and I think it was Rahim Kassam, if memory serves me correctly.

00:45:53.600 I think it was Rahim in the National Pulse that first brought up, with Poso maybe it was, on these Nazis, neo-Nazis in Ukraine.

00:46:02.800 But this story actually taken on new development, Ben Harwell.

00:46:06.700 Get us up to speed.

00:46:07.480 We'll get Rahim in here.

00:46:08.420 But talk about not learning the lessons of history.

00:46:11.300 We're here on Memorial Day weekend.

00:46:13.040 We're talking about the monument of the First World War.

00:46:15.260 We've already mentioned the second.

00:46:16.440 And now we have Boris Johnson and the folks in Kiev that are embracing Nazis as Putin. 0.72

00:46:24.740 And everybody called him a liar when Putin warned everybody this was happening, and now it's happening up in your grill.

00:46:32.180 Ben Harwell.

00:46:33.700 Steve, I'd like to invite Denver to put up the article from the Malaysia Sun here, which has the photo.

00:46:41.580 So Boris Johnson, I know one of Rahim's personal favourite British Conservative figures, hosted a delegation from the Azov Brigade in the House of Commons last week.

00:46:57.060 And there you can see him holding the banner with the Wolfsangel, the Wolfshock Insignia.

00:47:02.400 Now, just a bit of background on this.

00:47:04.180 This symbol was actually used by several German divisions during World War II, including the 2nd SS Panzer Division, Das Reich, which was notorious for its war crimes, particularly against Jewish and French populations.

00:47:19.320 Now, there's been some hoo-ha about this.

00:47:23.200 It hasn't really been covered in the British press, but it has been available on social media.

00:47:28.320 And that's a story in and of itself.

00:47:30.340 But a question basically arises, well, you know, hang on, what's going on here?

00:47:36.120 And as you say, the national pulse and human events have been on this from the beginning.

00:47:42.840 But there's clearly a distinction here, because there are good Nazis and there are bad Nazis.

00:47:47.540 Now, look, Rahim, Steve, we're Neanderthals in our political outlook.

00:47:52.380 You know, good, bad, black, white.

00:47:56.340 It's pretty simple, right?

00:47:57.940 We don't have – we haven't been bestowed with the magical ability that globalists have to distinguish between good Nazis and bad Nazis.

00:48:10.020 Apparently, the Azov Brigade are good Nazis, hence Boris Johnson, who very much considers himself famously, by the way.

00:48:19.940 He's very much modelled himself on Winston Churchill explicitly rather than Margaret Thatcher, which is where most of the British Tory party claims to find its point of reference.

00:48:28.900 So here he is, encouraging, holding this banner used by various divisions of the SS.

00:48:38.420 And what did we discover last week, two weeks ago on the show?

00:48:43.060 There was a buried lead, I think it was in the Times, because I had never seen any reference to this, and I followed these things very closely.

00:48:50.560 There has been, since 2017 – this is, Steve, probably when you were still in the White House – there has been a ban, an embargo on American arms going to Ukraine,

00:49:03.660 specifically to the Azov battalion, since, as I say, 2017, because of its proto-Nazi links.

00:49:12.360 So this isn't a secret.

00:49:13.580 And this isn't something that the U.S. administration isn't aware of.

00:49:17.100 They're very much aware of this connection.

00:49:20.060 And as I say, there is to this day, to this day, an arms embargo, specifically to this battalion, that Boris Johnson is holding the banner up in the House of Commons.

00:49:31.680 So – and I'm going to have something more to say.

00:49:34.120 I'll give way to Raheem.

00:49:35.540 But I have something more to say.

00:49:37.100 Well, hold on.

00:49:37.420 I want to do this.

00:49:38.260 But bad Nazis, we have an alternative for Deutschland. 0.94

00:49:41.120 A guy makes a – and he's not a good guy.

00:49:42.840 Exactly.

00:49:43.160 He makes a comment, and they're – we're going to get to that in a second.

00:49:45.940 But Raheem, brother, help me out here, particularly how inextricably linked – if Johnson was just a side character in this drama of the Third World War, it would be different.

00:49:57.200 It would still be awful, but it would be different.

00:49:59.380 He is a central player, and I might argue the deep state's most central player in kind of the connective tissue of this fiasco.

00:50:07.160 But how can the British press – why do we have to go to the Malaysian sentinel to see this?

00:50:14.400 Why is this not blazing across the sun, blazing across the Times of London?

00:50:20.380 Why is it not on the front page of the Financial Times, sir?

00:50:23.320 Yeah, well, look, I've got some issues here, and I'm going to start off with Ben Harnwell and the Malaysia paper, which is using a Russia Today write-up about that story.

00:50:39.660 We do have it up, including the video of the event, by the way, at thenationalpulse.com.

00:50:45.360 So, Steve, maybe you can put your hand in your pocket and buy Ben a subscription to the National Pulse.

00:50:50.320 You'll see that story up there.

00:50:52.280 Hold it.

00:50:52.720 So, Boris, I thought we got a freebie, but obviously not so.

00:50:56.660 Yeah.

00:50:57.260 Go ahead.

00:50:59.840 No, keep going.

00:51:00.760 Keep going.

00:51:01.140 This is too good.

00:51:02.100 Look, I take the point.

00:51:03.160 The point is far-flung news outlets all around the world will put their hands on this, but the domestic corporate media class and the corporate media papers don't.

00:51:13.820 From Washington to Westminster, this will be broadly ignored.

00:51:16.740 Now, what's even more heinous about it was this is a group that's run by some pretty strange figures.

00:51:24.640 This is a group called the Conservative Friends of Ukraine, operating out of Westminster in the United Kingdom, where Boris Johnson was speaking, where he lauded the neo-Nazis in the Azov Battalion.

00:51:36.020 In the same speech, by the way, he was calling for outright open warfare within Russia's borders, therefore escalating the conflict once again.

00:51:46.900 And we know we've heard that again from Westminster to Washington in prior weeks also.

00:51:51.960 So it's fascinating because, as you say, I mean, I could pull my hair out talking about this.

00:51:57.700 You all both know, and I'm sure the audience knows by now, that I've spent the best part of my 30s now trying to bang into people's heads that Boris Johnson is an evil character.

00:52:08.120 He is a malign character. 0.56

00:52:09.480 He is right up there with Tony Blair as far as it comes to being an outright neoconservative who's in the pockets of big corporations and their war-loving ways.

00:52:22.200 But, you know, you also have to remember, it was Boris Johnson who flew to Kiev to tell Zelensky not to embrace a peace process last year.

00:52:35.080 So this and everything that flowed from it, remember, all the battles on Capitol Hill, all the Mike Johnson stuff could have all been avoided, and all the blood is on your hands, Boris Johnson.

00:52:48.040 Hang on one second.

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Bannon's War Room - May 25, 2024

Episode 3637： The Modern Era Of Man

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