An exclusive look tonight at the making of America s new World War I Memorial and the sculptor Sabin Howard, considered the best in the world. Plus, a Memorial Day weekend special with Patrick K. O'Donnell.
00:12:34.660And then this continues for the next 100 years until the United States picked this up with the MoMA and Doubleday Books with the Rockefellers.
00:12:44.740And all of a sudden you are doing a 180 away from art that actually celebrates something of value, tradition.
00:12:53.220And it says, let's throw out the baby with the bathwater and we're going to start fresh here and make crap.
00:12:59.380And so if it looks like crap, smells like crap, it must be crap.
00:13:02.620And I don't think a lot of artists are willing to stick their neck out and say that.
00:13:07.340I'm going to do that because my calling card is 60 feet long and 25 tons.
00:13:12.020And I got something to back up my words.
00:13:18.220We'll talk about that when we get back.
00:13:20.320We're going to take a break here in a minute, but the extraordinary thing about all this, Sabin, is that you were actually selected and then were able to execute all within, I think, four years.
00:13:31.240And the scale and beauty of your piece and how it's come together is also, I think, just leaves people in awe of how this actually happened.
00:13:40.020And to go into Washington, D.C., which there is some magnificent, magnificent sculptures, although there haven't been a lot of magnificent ones that have been done, I don't know, in the last, I don't know, 30, 40, 50 years.
00:13:55.320Most of these were done, I think, before World War I.
00:13:58.620We're going to take a short commercial break.
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00:14:04.680Philip Patrick, we're going to have on later, but I want to thank the team at birchgold.com.
00:14:09.120Remember, what we're talking about, we start off with the World War I and talk about the short 20th century, 1914 to 1989.
00:18:06.060So that's what I was asked to follow in the footsteps.
00:18:08.520So I took that as my mission and my task.
00:18:11.560And I completely revamped myself as an artist because I had to grow on the job through the training and the process of reaching that final iteration, which is a soldier's journey.
00:18:24.840Then I had to go through the Commission of Fine Arts, which is a bureaucracy in Washington, which was a tremendous challenge.
00:18:32.160We passed that hurdle never to turn back.
00:18:35.360And I began sculpting finally in August of 2019 the life size full scale clay that would be cast in the U.K. in bronze and then shipped back this summer to Washington, D.C. in July.
00:18:51.700This August, I will be assembling the four panels together to make that one panel telling the whole story of that soldier that leaves home, enters into the Brotherhood of Arms, and then battle.
00:19:06.720And from that point, he is shell-shocked.
00:19:09.820Now, he is an allegory for the United States.
00:19:12.700He is an allegory for the world and a transformation that occurred that went from that divine order to an alienated, chaotic, you know, nihilistic vision of what and who we are.
00:19:25.900And come the night of September 13th, which is General Pershing's birthday, we will have a candlelit vigil that will celebrate and be first light on that sculpture for the general public.
00:19:43.780Sun sets on September 13th at 7.19 p.m.
00:19:50.380That is the time that that vigil will begin.
00:19:55.820Now, I used a lot of veterans from our service in this project.
00:20:54.340And so I am hoping that all you patriots will show up on September 13th.
00:20:58.480And I want to add to this that my wife, Tracy Slatton, who is part of the War Room Posse, will be delivering a documentary on the creation of this sculpture next spring after the election.
00:21:20.440So on the evening of the 13th, Pershing's birthday, you have the vigil starting at 719.
00:21:25.900Is there also going to be something the next day?
00:21:29.200Are people going to see an unveiling in the daylight?
00:21:31.700Or are you going to unveil it that night at sunset?
00:21:34.260That night we will unveil there is a private event with commissioners, government officials, and the commissions involved in the project in the afternoon.
00:21:48.820And then it is open to the public that evening.
00:21:52.460And the next day it will be officially open to the public for forever or for as long as Washington, D.C. stands.
00:22:01.160When do you actually ship from the United Kingdom?
00:22:25.280I guarantee you we are on time on budget.
00:22:27.520And on June 22nd, that sculpture should be completed at the end of that week.
00:22:33.580That Monday right after that, we're going to start cutting it back into those four sections.
00:22:39.200And those four sections will be put into two shipping containers.
00:22:42.700And then it will travel via ship across the ocean now to probably Elizabeth, New Jersey, because it can't go to Baltimore anymore, given the fact that the bridge has disappeared.
00:22:55.640And so now it will arrive probably last week of July.
00:23:00.580August is all of the installation, which is lifting these pieces out with a crane out of those shipping containers and reassembling and re-patining.
00:23:16.120And we are working on lighting so that this sculpture will have a real footprint, a visual footprint in terms of like how it's seen at night.
00:23:25.280I wanted to do something that was very, very dramatic.
00:23:28.380The figures will pop off of the back wall so the contrast will be increased.
00:23:32.580And I'm telling you this because I'm making something that follows in the footsteps of Western civilization, but you need to play it forward.
00:23:43.040And so what is our favorite type of medium in terms of the art world today?
00:24:08.420You don't need to be an art aficionado to get this one.
00:24:12.160This one is – it's obvious, but I'm going to tell you it also has a great deal of depth and carries a lot of allegorical symbolism concerning our country and a voyage that we passed through historically during World War I.
00:24:25.240And it was not really paid attention to in this country because it was usurped by the Great Depression and by World War II.
00:24:33.280So this is really something that is long overdue, and I think that it will have a tremendous impact historically because it's – I am a strong component of maintaining and really taking care of history because history is our culture.
00:24:48.420And if you destroy your culture, you create a void, and why is that happening right now?
00:24:55.260Because there are attempts to rewrite history, and that is not the direction that this culture will go.
00:25:03.620Why did it take – I think the World War II monument came about in the early aughts to that extent, and then World War I just came up.
00:25:14.840You did – why did it take so long to do monuments to the two great wars that really – with the Civil War, defined this country?
00:25:39.740We went then to Korean War Memorial and the World War II Memorial, and then finally the World War I Memorial.
00:25:47.000And this has been a very strange way of looking at things.
00:25:51.600I would wish that our culture had more reverence for the history of this country.
00:25:58.500And perhaps with shows like yours and pieces of art like mine, we can actually change the trajectory of the way general public and the narrative is written.
00:26:08.780Because if you do not have history of a country, you do not have anything that brings all of us together.
00:26:16.200Our history is what unifies us, that we can stand under.
00:26:21.400And I would like to add to that that the soldiers that went off to World War I were neither Democrats or Republicans.
00:26:30.940They were red-blooded because all of their blood was red Americans.
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00:30:05.080But Raheem, I'll start with you and bring in Ben.
00:30:08.360You two are Englishmen and from our mother country.
00:30:12.320One of the things we talk about, and I wanted to kick off with Sabin on the World War I monument, memorial.
00:30:20.120And Philip Patrick K. O'Donnell, we spent a lot of time, we're going to spend a lot of time with him on Monday going through this topic as we always do.
00:30:29.680But World War I totally and completely changed the direction of not just Western civilization but particularly England.
00:30:38.160And you guys have remembered the trauma there and you remembered it and it changed that nation.
00:30:44.360Walk me through that in particular way you – because your November 11th, Armistice Day, is your Memorial Day where you honor – not your veterans, but you honor your war dead.
00:31:11.680Yeah, Steve, I think – I mean there's so many things there as well.
00:31:15.620And obviously just to pick up on a point that another of your guests made over the course of this week was that we are accustomed to showing that by wearing a poppy, right?
00:31:27.400The red flower found in Flanders Fields.
00:31:29.620And it's one of the most critical ways, obviously, that everybody can show for that day, that week, that weekend, that we're all thinking of exactly what was just said, right?
00:31:50.040And, you know, there was so much lost institutionally, technologically, you know, financially.
00:32:00.000But, of course, as we mostly remember today, so much lost in blood.
00:32:05.420And, you know, a friend of mine once said, and I think I've said it on the show a bunch of times before, that, you know, were so many not lost, especially in the First World War, especially the upper echelons of British civil society, the landowners, the aristocracy, the thought leaders, the generals.
00:32:26.840We would not have a current political settlement as we currently have it.
00:32:36.380And it laid the groundwork really for the current political settlement in Western Europe, the financial settlement, the mass migration that you see taking place today, the political settlement, the economy.
00:32:48.640Obviously, Britain losing its empire geopolitically, it had huge, huge ramifications in the ascent of America on the world stage as a result of all of that.
00:32:59.700So the memories are not just about, you know, what happened on those battlefields, but what flowed from those battlefields additionally.
00:33:11.380And it bears repeating and it bears coverage every single year.
00:33:15.020Before I go to Ben, you know, I've been getting up to speed with Saban's monument coming out, the World War I again and going back and reading some of the things I'd read years ago.
00:33:29.680But I was reading this book about the beginning phases of it.
00:33:33.460And in 1914, the carnage was so bad for the British, the British Expeditionary Force from mid-August when they got over there.
00:33:45.880The carnage was so bad, Raheem, that Burke's peerage, I think of 1914, was delayed almost a year in being published because there had been so much slaughter.
00:33:59.380I think, you know, they had, I mean, dozens and dozens of, you know, dukes and viscounts and knights.
00:34:09.940Has, did British society ever recover from its leadership class being decimated because it got worse as the war went on?
00:34:16.580And what's shocking is that with this carnage, with the advances in artillery and machine guns and the submarines and airplanes and tanks, everything came in.
00:34:23.960And there was virtually unquestioning.
00:34:26.940I mean, it was virtually unquestioning of people just going over in this trench warfare and these slaughters that, you know, massacres of men who almost unquestioningly went and just gave everything where it looked like it was very little actually being won in no glory, sir.
00:34:49.660Yeah, that's right. I mean, there is no world in which you had those lineages surviving and that Britain looks like it does today.
00:34:57.280Just no world whatsoever that that's the case.
00:35:00.180There's no world in which you have those, as you say, you know, the highest part of British civil society.
00:35:07.420In a lot of senses, the smartest people in the room, the highest IQ, the strategists, the generals, the viscounts, the landowners, where then you have a post-war settlement, a post-World War II settlement that includes the establishing of a socialized health care system that effectively annually bankrupts the nation.
00:35:30.260Now, where you have the opening up of borders to all parts of the globe without any level of discernment or discrimination and where you have, if you don't mind me saying, a singular superpower on the world stage for the next several decades to this very day.
00:35:51.840So, you know, the world would look very different indeed.
00:35:56.620Ben Harnwell, your thoughts about this?
00:35:59.700Well, talking about the First World War, specifically following on from what Rahim said, it's very much the idea of lines being led by donkeys.
00:36:10.000And it's absolutely clear, I think, that Western civilization lost, in an ontological sense, its innocence in the First World War.
00:36:20.700That is, after 2,000 years, there'd been wars all the time, there'd been plagues, there'd been catastrophes.
00:36:25.720But there was something about the First World War, about the sheer lack of value placed on human life on such a large scale that we really lost the ability to think that there was anything morally contained within Western civilization, within the direction of history.
00:36:47.740You know, the Whig sense of progress, the whole thing was exploded in the First World War just because of the senseless slaughter.
00:36:57.540Now, coming to Memorial Day itself, you know, we have the secular state has basically what in Catholic sense would be liturgical dates.
00:37:08.220But the reasoning is the same. Catholic Church has Corpus Christi, for example, or the assumption of the Virgin Mary on 15th of August.
00:37:18.820And you have these things where Catholics get together. Historically, I mean, it goes back into deep medieval ages, these things.
00:37:25.280And the whole community, the whole church community would come together and just remember something important about the spiritual journey.
00:37:32.580Well, in terms of secular civic religion, it's exactly the same. You have President's Day, you have Memorial Days.
00:37:39.640And these are ideas where everyone in the community can come together and remember something very important about where it is and how it got there and as part of its civic spiritual life.
00:37:54.160And as you were saying, Steve, the point about Memorial Day is to spend a moment in prayer and reflection and gratitude.
00:38:02.160You said that we do this on the on the on the on the on the on the 11th of November.
00:38:06.480But the point is the same, just to remember the fact that we have things that we absolutely take for granted.
00:38:13.100And of course, because because they're free, we tend not to put a value on them.
00:38:17.220One of those things is liberty. So, yeah, it's absolutely right that we take a moment and thanks silently in the deeper recesses of our hearts.
00:38:26.720The sacrifices people have made in all wars, but especially the First and Second World War, so that we can be free, even if we're squandering that legacy and that sacrifice.
00:38:39.300We talk about the squandering it, Rahim, correct me if I'm wrong, but these very moving and incredible monuments and memorials you have not just to leaders, but to actual the soldiers themselves.
00:38:52.640Haven't these been defaced when you have these these protests and these riots?
00:38:57.080And this is why I keep saying it's against Western civilization and against America, this the Marxist jihadist protests that have overwhelmed central London.
00:39:08.100Haven't they actually defaced some of these memorials?
00:39:12.180Yeah, this seems to be just to make it clear for everybody, not not corollary.
00:39:18.980It's not by accident. They're not just in the way and getting somehow trampled or defaced.
00:39:25.980These have been the memorials, whether they are to individuals, whether they I mean, the animals of the World War's memorial, the women of the World War memorials, the cenotaph itself, the big memorial where the poppy wreaths are laid every year, as you say, for our own Memorial Day and our memorial services.
00:39:49.260The statue of Churchill in Parliament Square, you name it, they are both the active target of the far left and the Islamists, the red green alliance that we've warned about.
00:40:04.040Well, I mean, we've been talking about this now, it feels like for almost two decades to say, and I certainly, you know, that would have put me age wise, by the way, graduating high school and going into university.
00:40:17.420And that was about the same time that I recognized that this was going on.
00:40:20.540That was about the same time that I started getting involved in politics and recognizing that that unholy allowance of Western civilization haters was was was was actively trying to tear that stuff down.
00:40:33.560And by the way, you know, I've been now in the United States for nine odd years and have written multiple times about the the excuseless attempts to tear down statues like those in Arlington National Cemetery, you know, the Moses Ezekiel statue of the North and the South coming together.
00:40:53.960These will remain targets. And in fact, you know, this was why it was so important under the previous Trump administration that he and his team that, you know, they actually talked about building new monuments and building new statues and preserving history and heritage rather than allowing the left to tear it down so so wantonly.
00:41:13.300Ben, along that lines is is Sabin Howard on is it is it magnificent what he's doing or could you argue it's a full Zarin?
00:41:25.820You can't go back to that. And as much as we want to go back to that, that the 20th century, the modernity struck and tore it apart.
00:41:33.980And so there there's a gap, there's a breach, a scar that can't be healed, that that disconnects us from the Renaissance and disconnects us from a more sacred age like the Middle Ages.
00:41:46.340Well, a scar is the correct word, I think, because it's a historical biological remembrance within skin of wounds at a previous time that had been absorbed by the system, but which have subsequently healed, but healed in such a way that you can still see the effects of the original injury, even if the consequences of that are no longer felt.
00:42:13.340So I think that that scar is absolutely the correct word when we're talking about human tragedies that are no longer within living memory.
00:42:22.740It's a scar. It's a scar, Steve, on the collective psyche, on the collective consciousness.
00:42:29.700And that's good because it reminds us of what we've done to ourselves and to others and ought to give us some prudence.
00:42:38.020And, of course, it's not doing, you know, you, Raheem, myself, were talking, I think, on last night's show about the potential for a nuclear war setting off with regards to Ukraine.
00:42:49.580One would have hoped, having a conversation on this context, that looking at the tragedies, the human tragedies of war, we might actually take a moment to reflect and say, OK, we'll look at these psychological scars on our culture and try not to repeat the mistakes that our forefathers made.
00:43:10.920But that's probably why you said, is this a false errand? Well, look, look, the cost of losing is total annihilation, in which case there's nobody going to be pointing the finger laughing at us.
00:43:23.360So let's do the false errand and hope, with the grace of Jesus Christ in heaven, that we're actually successful.
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00:46:33.700Steve, I'd like to invite Denver to put up the article from the Malaysia Sun here, which has the photo.
00:46:41.580So Boris Johnson, I know one of Rahim's personal favourite British Conservative figures, hosted a delegation from the Azov Brigade in the House of Commons last week.
00:46:57.060And there you can see him holding the banner with the Wolfsangel, the Wolfshock Insignia.
00:47:02.400Now, just a bit of background on this.
00:47:04.180This symbol was actually used by several German divisions during World War II, including the 2nd SS Panzer Division, Das Reich, which was notorious for its war crimes, particularly against Jewish and French populations.
00:47:19.320Now, there's been some hoo-ha about this.
00:47:23.200It hasn't really been covered in the British press, but it has been available on social media.
00:47:57.940We don't have – we haven't been bestowed with the magical ability that globalists have to distinguish between good Nazis and bad Nazis.
00:48:10.020Apparently, the Azov Brigade are good Nazis, hence Boris Johnson, who very much considers himself famously, by the way.
00:48:19.940He's very much modelled himself on Winston Churchill explicitly rather than Margaret Thatcher, which is where most of the British Tory party claims to find its point of reference.
00:48:28.900So here he is, encouraging, holding this banner used by various divisions of the SS.
00:48:38.420And what did we discover last week, two weeks ago on the show?
00:48:43.060There was a buried lead, I think it was in the Times, because I had never seen any reference to this, and I followed these things very closely.
00:48:50.560There has been, since 2017 – this is, Steve, probably when you were still in the White House – there has been a ban, an embargo on American arms going to Ukraine,
00:49:03.660specifically to the Azov battalion, since, as I say, 2017, because of its proto-Nazi links.
00:49:13.580And this isn't something that the U.S. administration isn't aware of.
00:49:17.100They're very much aware of this connection.
00:49:20.060And as I say, there is to this day, to this day, an arms embargo, specifically to this battalion, that Boris Johnson is holding the banner up in the House of Commons.
00:49:31.680So – and I'm going to have something more to say.
00:49:43.160He makes a comment, and they're – we're going to get to that in a second.
00:49:45.940But Raheem, brother, help me out here, particularly how inextricably linked – if Johnson was just a side character in this drama of the Third World War, it would be different.
00:49:57.200It would still be awful, but it would be different.
00:49:59.380He is a central player, and I might argue the deep state's most central player in kind of the connective tissue of this fiasco.
00:50:07.160But how can the British press – why do we have to go to the Malaysian sentinel to see this?
00:50:14.400Why is this not blazing across the sun, blazing across the Times of London?
00:50:20.380Why is it not on the front page of the Financial Times, sir?
00:50:23.320Yeah, well, look, I've got some issues here, and I'm going to start off with Ben Harnwell and the Malaysia paper, which is using a Russia Today write-up about that story.
00:50:39.660We do have it up, including the video of the event, by the way, at thenationalpulse.com.
00:50:45.360So, Steve, maybe you can put your hand in your pocket and buy Ben a subscription to the National Pulse.
00:51:03.160The point is far-flung news outlets all around the world will put their hands on this, but the domestic corporate media class and the corporate media papers don't.
00:51:13.820From Washington to Westminster, this will be broadly ignored.
00:51:16.740Now, what's even more heinous about it was this is a group that's run by some pretty strange figures.
00:51:24.640This is a group called the Conservative Friends of Ukraine, operating out of Westminster in the United Kingdom, where Boris Johnson was speaking, where he lauded the neo-Nazis in the Azov Battalion.
00:51:36.020In the same speech, by the way, he was calling for outright open warfare within Russia's borders, therefore escalating the conflict once again.
00:51:46.900And we know we've heard that again from Westminster to Washington in prior weeks also.
00:51:51.960So it's fascinating because, as you say, I mean, I could pull my hair out talking about this.
00:51:57.700You all both know, and I'm sure the audience knows by now, that I've spent the best part of my 30s now trying to bang into people's heads that Boris Johnson is an evil character.
00:52:09.480He is right up there with Tony Blair as far as it comes to being an outright neoconservative who's in the pockets of big corporations and their war-loving ways.
00:52:22.200But, you know, you also have to remember, it was Boris Johnson who flew to Kiev to tell Zelensky not to embrace a peace process last year.
00:52:35.080So this and everything that flowed from it, remember, all the battles on Capitol Hill, all the Mike Johnson stuff could have all been avoided, and all the blood is on your hands, Boris Johnson.
00:52:49.240We're going to continue this in 90 seconds, hour two of our kickoff on Memorial Day weekend here on a Saturday in May in the nation's capital.
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