Episode 3684: Trumpism Abroad; Populists Lead In Europe
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Summary
Stephen K. Bannon and J.D. Vance join me in the War Room to talk about President Trump's trip to Florida and his meeting with the House and Senate delegations. Steve and I also talk about the latest in the Democratic response to the president's trip.
Transcript
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Friday, 14 June, the year of our Lord, 2024.
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The day after Kumbaya on Capitol Hill, of course, Nancy Pelosi,
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Hakeem Jeffries, and others are not particularly happy about it,
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but President Trump met with the House delegation.
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They sang him happy birthday and talked about the program going forward,
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He met with the Business Roundtable, talked about his economic plan,
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how he intends to stop the madness and turn things around.
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He also talked about getting his supply-side tax cut from 2017 back,
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reinitiated, maybe even with a slightly bigger corporate tax cut,
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the Business Roundtable, who you know are not exactly fans of the populist
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nationalist right of President Trump's movement.
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It seemed like they were on board, welcomed him with open arms.
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And then later, Mitch McConnell came in complete, total capitulation.
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Like I said, everybody in the boat as we get off the amphibs to go down the ropes
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into the landing craft to converge on the beach.
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Everybody's got to be concentrated now on the convergence on the point,
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the point of attack that we call it here in the war room.
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Senator J.D. Vance is going to be with us as soon as we work out some technical issues
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He's going to talk about he's led this effort to block everything Joe Biden's doing
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Because remember, in the Senate, it's a lot different.
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And so he has pledged with other MAGA senators like Tommy Toverville, Mike Lee, others to
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really say, no, we're not going to go forth anymore, any more madness.
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So I think President Trump's trip, absolutely incredible yesterday.
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We're going to be live from Detroit as soon as our set gets totally set up and everybody
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We're going to be live in the five o'clock hour, six o'clock.
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And we're going to go live down to Club 47 in Florida, where President Trump is going
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He's also going to be back in Detroit tomorrow.
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It seemed like an incredibly successful meeting yesterday.
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You've been really President Trump's man in the Senate, right?
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You actually, you and others, I think, had Mitch McConnell come over and do a fist bump,
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have everybody kind of have a good meeting and say, hey, we're going to fight this one
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And you had, you know, a number of folks, of course, who were allies of the president.
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You also had some folks who were more skeptical and been critical in the past who recognized
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that, look, the voters have decided Trump is our nominee.
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And whether, like me, you were sort of on the team early in this cycle or it took you
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a while to come around, it's time to actually get on the team and help elect Donald Trump
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There's also broad recognition in that room, Steve, you have to recognize that if you look
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at our Senate polling across the country, there are a lot of really close and very winnable
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Senate races in Montana, Ohio, Nevada, a bunch of other places as well.
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But every single one of our Senate candidates right now is running behind Donald Trump.
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So there's a sort of recognition in the room that the MAGA movement has a certain amount
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And we've got to figure out how to tap into that, not just for Donald Trump, but also for
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And so there was a really good, I think, conversation just about, well, how do we narrow that gap?
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If Trump runs a couple of points ahead of these Senate seats, we'll still win most of
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But we can't have these Senate candidates running five, six, seven points behind Donald
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And so it was really interesting that these guys now realize, I'm sure some of them for
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pure self-interest, that they need to get on the team and they need to figure out how
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to close that gap between Trump's movement and their voter base.
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The other point I make, Steve, is you just compare the United States Senate of 2024 and
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hopefully of January of 2025 against the United States Senate of January of 2017.
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You just have way more people who are open to restricting immigration at a large scale,
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way more open to people who are sort of skeptical of globalization and trade, of the entire globalist
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movement, of the free movement of labor and people and goods.
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It is fundamentally a good thing, I think, for Trump's governing agenda to have people
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Just real quick, I've got other things going on, but this is just such a brilliant point.
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Talk to us about this theory of the case, that Trump's running five to seven points ahead
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because of the MAGA movement in some of these states.
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And these states are a lot of, some of these are red states.
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Walk us through that, the fact that, and was there a consensus with Steve Daines and these
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guys on the team now to say we've got to embrace MAGA, we have to embrace President Trump
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here, if we're to take, and to get to 53, 54, maybe 55 seats in the Senate?
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And when I talk to Steve Daines, who I think is doing a good job as an RSC chairman, I have
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to say, they recognize that there is this gap between the top of the ticket and some of
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And there's just a recognition here that Trump has tapped into something that is not just
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There are independents, there are Democrats who are traditionally loyal to those parties who
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will turn out for Donald Trump, but they may not turn out for other Republicans.
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And so the big question for us as a party, Steve, is how to take that movement and make
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it durable and make it something that benefits our Senate candidates too, especially the Senate
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candidates who are actually aligned with the agenda.
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And I think what you're going to see in the Senate side, Steve, over the next six months
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is a lot of heightening the tension between the Trump movement and what the Democrats have
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You're going to see a lot of people talk about the wide-open southern border.
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A lot of people talk about mass deportation, which until a couple of years ago, frankly,
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until Donald Trump was considered a complete taboo in American politics.
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And you're going to hear a lot of people, especially in the industrial heartland, the Michigan,
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Ohio, Pennsylvania races, you're going to hear people talking about tariffs and about
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protecting American manufacturing and really leaning into that.
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So this is not your granddaddy's Republican Party, Steve.
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This has in many ways been totally transformed by the last six years of American politics.
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And really the question for us Senate candidates, and I'm not a candidate myself, of course,
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but I'm helping a lot of Senate candidates, is whether we can actually get over the finish
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line, closing that gap by at least a few points.
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But if these guys run six or seven points behind DJT, then we're in for a deep, deep set of
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You've been the leader in the Senate on this forever wars issue, particularly Ukraine.
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Biden, who hasn't actually presented that well in Italy at the G7, yesterday was up with
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a, talking about a 10-year, signed a 10-year security agreement with Ukraine.
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And then part of that's underwritten by essentially stealing or taking the interest of $300 billion
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of the Russian people's assets and funding it because Europeans don't want to step up
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And as you know, the people in the United States are fed up with putting money into Ukraine.
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There's complete failure of raising any of these troops, the 500,000 fresh troops.
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It's a non-event, even with this new draft law.
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So put that in perspective, and what are you in the Senate going to do between now and the
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Because I thought to sign a 10-year security agreement, I kind of thought that was a treaty.
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I thought the Senate might have something, two-thirds of the Senate might have to opine
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It is a treaty, and there's no way that that is binding unless the United States Senate
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And I'm going to do everything I can to prevent the United States Senate from doing that.
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Look, we have to remember, Steve, that the entire argument for this posture towards Ukraine
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is that if we acted like the tough guys and sent the Ukrainians a lot of weapons, the Russians
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Well, now we have Russian warships off the coast of Cuba.
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Where is the respect that we were supposed to have earned?
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It's reflected in Joe Biden going on the world stage and embarrassing the entire country.
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You can't have respect when you're led by a guy like Joe Biden.
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It's one of the strongest arguments for re-electing Trump in 2024.
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Here's the other crazy thing about all this, Steve.
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We have no plan, no pathway to victory in Ukraine, and the president cannot stand there
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and articulate what we're trying to accomplish over the next 12 months, much less the next
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It's one of the great failures of the globalists of the last three or four years.
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I've, of course, been proud to fight against it.
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But we have to be asking ourselves, what is the exit strategy?
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OK, you know, I don't I don't want to claim a victory lap and say, you know, I was right
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for the last three years, even though that I was.
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I want to know what the exit strategy is so that we don't escalate this thing into a nuclear
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war where the guy with his finger on the button doesn't know where the hell he is.
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And the Republican Party in particular, we need to be statesmen over the next six months,
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enough bumping our chests and talking about how tough we are.
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We need to be careful about the next six months so that we hopefully set the next president
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And, Steve, you know, we've talked about this in other contexts.
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One of the biggest problems with some of these funding packages is not just that we've
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It's that they've explicitly tried to tie Trump's hands when he wins the presidency and
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So we as Republicans need to make sure that the next president is set up for success and
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Everything that Biden is doing is designed to tie Trump's hands.
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That is you're seeing this then you consider this part of this de-Trumpification movement
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for the second term, understanding he looks like if it was held today, he'd win and win
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This is a de-Trumpification movement to de-Trumpify the second term, sir?
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Oh, sometimes they say this explicitly in private, that they want to make it harder for the next
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And what they mean, of course, is Donald Trump, because a lot of people expect he will win.
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They want to make it harder for the next administration to do anything diplomatically with that
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Well, look, we shouldn't roll over on anything, Steve, but diplomacy is part of the job of
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And you have to have both the carrot and the stick to do diplomacy successfully.
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They're trying to take away both of those tools from the next president of the United
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And they're trying to do it because they know Trump's going to win and they don't want
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him to be able to conduct diplomacy successfully.
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That Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize like six months into his presidency for doing absolutely
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If Trump is able to come in, guarantee Ukrainian neutrality, guarantee Ukrainian independence
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and actually bring this war to a close, it'll be the most successful piece of public diplomacy
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I really think they want to deny that from Donald Trump.
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And most importantly, they want to deny that kind of victory from the American people.
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I know you've got to bounce, but we keep saying the show, people got to take the burden off
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President Trump now, both in the House and the Senate.
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We can't, everybody just can't wait till he comes in on 20 January, 2025.
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You've actually taken the lead on that in the Senate.
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You're saying, hey, you're getting a couple of Tuberville, Lee, Hawley, a couple of the
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populists and more of the big Trump backers and saying, hey, we're going to throw down and
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we're going to block everything Biden's going to try to accomplish.
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Yeah, very briefly, Steve, procedurally, the details kind of matter here because to block
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something in the United States Senate, to block a nomination, effectively to force Schumer
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to take up days of floor time to bring this thing up to a vote, you have to be willing
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to hold a nomination, but then you simultaneously have to be willing to fight for that hold on
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And so I've gotten a number of my colleagues together.
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And we're all joining hands and saying, look, there are 44 nominations that Biden has brought
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forward that are fundamentally connected to the lawfare against Donald Trump and the entire
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Of course, you've got the pro-life activists, the J6ers and so forth.
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So we're not letting Biden have additional foot soldiers, at least not for free.
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If they want to do it, they're going to have to use the Senate procedures, force a vote on
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And this is important, Steve, because look, our voters don't expect us to win every fight.
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They know that we're Senate Republicans are in the minority, but they expect us to do more
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than treat the Senate as a high class debating society.
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Even from the minority, there are things that we can do to deny Joe Biden foot soldiers for
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And we know what those people have been used for the last three years.
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Me and a few of my Senate colleagues are saying, we're not going to do that anymore.
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I want to make sure everybody – Senator Vance is in this dogfight in the Senate to basically, you know, get a pound of flesh from Schumer and the radical Democrats as they try to increase the apparatus of lawfare.
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However, it's quite brilliant, and you have some of the best people in the Senate, the Hawleys of the world, the Mike Lees of the world, the folks that are very, very focused on, you know, taking lawfare out of the system, trying to get pay a letter.
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But Hakeem Jeffries, his discussion of Associate Justice Alito today was just – not just over the top.
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It's to shrink the court and to have them trim their sails.
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I'm not saying the 9-0 ruling yesterday was because of this.
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But to trim their sails, particularly on the Fisher decision that now looks like it's going to come in the next week or two, which I think will be monumental.
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Also, the immunity hearing and the pressure on the Supreme Court is incredible.
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Mark Paoletta and the team over at CRA is doing the best of giving some air cover for that.
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But that's why J.D. Vance and his team are really taking the lead on this in the Senate.
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Also in Ukraine, yesterday what happened – and this is after reports now overnight that the – they're putting in the draft in Ukraine, which they fought for a year.
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There's essentially 500,000 minimum combat troops short.
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They need those combat troops from young men, and they don't have them.
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The parents of the young men, the young men themselves, had decided they're fighting for the sociopathic oligarchs in Ukraine that control the country and steal the money.
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Oh, and MTG just lost an amendment on the floor.
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The same 74 to 80 to 100 of the same people in the House that are fighting against any more Ukraine funding.
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Another kind of fiasco in the House just a little while ago, Mike Rogers saying, hey, the money was already taken out.
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This is an ongoing fight, and it's got to stop.
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What they've done now, because the nations of Europe, the Europeans are saying, hey, we can't go back to our people and say they've got to have – they can't retire at 50.
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They can't take six weeks off, seven weeks off in the summer with August.
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They can't have free health care because they've got to fund the war in Ukraine.
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So they've essentially stolen the Russian people's assets, the interest from it, $50 billion, and they're going to use that to arm Ukraine.
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Putin's already said, hey, you're just not going to take our money.
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Jim Rickards is going to join us and Dave Bratt in the second hour.
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We teed this up last night with Philip Patrick, but this is monumental, particularly if you're concerned about your retirement, if you're concerned about the purchase power of the dollar.
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One of the reasons the dollar has the purchase power it has, and it's 20 percent down under Biden, is we're the prime reserve currency.
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Every transaction in the world has to be converted into dollars.
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The fiscal mismanagement, the monetary mismanagement, the insanity is getting the world led by the Saudis who announced yesterday,
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a kind of back channel announced that they're going to cancel the petrodollar deal we've had since the Arab oil embargo,
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and President Nixon taking us off the gold standard in the early 1970s.
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That has been the foundational element since we kind of shattered Bretton Woods back then.
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Eventually, these BRICS nations that have all the resources, and if you don't think BRICS have stroke,
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There's going to be a peace conference in Switzerland about, wait for it, Ukraine.
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Let Western Europe and the United States talk about that.
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When you're ready for a real deal led by Turkey, as Ben Harnwell told us almost two years ago,
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that they will be the guys at the end to actually cut the deal.
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The BRICS nations are starting to flex their geopolitical strength.
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They're also working 24-7 of how to make sure they can take the financial power of the dollar
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because they think it's been weaponized against them and turn that to their advantage.
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If nothing more than stay up with current events.
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But really what you should do is think about you need a hedge against financial instability,
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and that's only going to get worse, the financial instability,
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because our sociopathic overlords are absolutely insane when it comes to the management
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of the fiduciary responsibility of managing the finances of the United States of America.
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We're still trying to track down Raheem, but I think we'll land him.
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But we begin tonight with chaos at home and chaos abroad.
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As President Biden met with nervous world leaders for the G7 summit amid the renewed
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rise of European fascism and what many are calling global Trumpism,
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Donald Trump was rallying his sycophantic troops in Washington, D.C.
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Biden and top global allies took action today to reinforce their solidarity with Ukraine
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clearing the way for a $50 billion loan package for Kyiv.
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Still, Biden is in the beast of European chaos.
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In Rome, tensions in Italy's lower house erupted into a fistfight, sending an opposition
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lawmaker to the hospital over a controversial government proposal that critics say will further
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In fact, it's all eyes on Italy, which is hosting the summit of the group of seven industrialized
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nations in the wake of the European Parliament election that saw victories for the far right
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in places like G7 countries, France and Germany.
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And just like here in the US, abortion has returned to the spotlight in Italy decades after it was
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legalized. Italian Prime Minister Giorgio Malone, a hardline conservative, is reportedly trying to
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eliminate a reference to guaranteeing access to safe and legal abortions in the text of the G7
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summit's final declaration. It's another sign of Europe's far right marching, Europe's far right
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marching steadily into the mainstream as hostilities grow over immigration, climate measures and
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globalization. Over the weekend, center right and far right parties made huge gains in the European
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Parliament elections, meaning they will occupy close to a quarter of the 720 seats.
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A conservative populist backlash to progress should sound familiar to voters on this side of the
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Atlantic, but it's happening all over the world and could very much reorder Europe's political
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landscape. The far right is on the rise over here and over there. I think that's the thing is that
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Americans tend to think that this is just us. But this is a global phenomenon that is happening in
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Europe, too. And it's all the same markers. They want women back in traditional roles. They want
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all white access to things like education and opportunity, economic opportunity. They want to drive
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immigrants and non-white immigrants out. It's what Brexit was. It's all the same thing.
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Is there any point in trying to get Americans to sort of think more globally about this as they
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think about the election in November? Well, I want to take a deep breath here. I'd take 25% in
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Congress by just being MAGA. I mean, 25% is not a majority. It's nowhere close to the majority. I get
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it. They made gains. But I do think we need to go, OK, let's look at this. What's going on in the UK
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right now, Joy? What's going on in the UK right now? The conservatives are about to get their lunch
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handed to them. Yes, they are. They are going to be taken out of power for the first time in a long
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time. Yeah. And the Labour Party is surging now. So what what does what do these two things have in
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common? It's the folks that are in power now. People want something different. People want change.
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The worst thing you can be in government right now is in government right now. And that really is what
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I think a lot of what's going on here. I don't want to discount the fact that they're trying to
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back up some basic freedoms. But, you know, as I said earlier today, you know what? America needs
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to ask a simple question. Are you OK with a dictator who wants to go into a neighboring democracy and
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The worst thing now to be running for government is to be in government. Why is that? Because the
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neoliberal neocon policies of the West have not worked. It's quite simple, ma'am. If you understood
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that, maybe you'd still be a senator from Missouri. But you don't. So you're you're a B-level talking
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head on MSNBC. Joy Ann Reid. But Ben Harnwell, that's the first time I think I've ever seen MSNBC
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actually embrace the reality that the world right now is going through a the populist nationalist
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sovereignty right, whether you call us far right, right wing. But it's certainly right of the
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would have been the conservative Christian Democrats or the Republican Party or the Tory
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Party. Right of that, because this is conservatism with punch. It's the first time I've seen them
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actually go to the thesis of the war room, sir.
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Well, you because I was about to say something different, Steve. Good. Good morning to you. I was
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about to say, we don't even need to do this show anymore, the war room. Just cut to Joy Ann
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Reid and Claire McGaskill and say, not this. Right. Not that. Not what they're saying. Right.
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And then we can just go to the beach. On this occasion, on this occasion, however, they have
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intuited something. And it's not as Joy Ann Reid hysterically says, and hysterical in the sense
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of sort of a mental breakdown rather than anything amusing in her paranoia that there's a rise of
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global fascism around the world. I mean, that's just that's just a delirium. That's the word I
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wanted. It's a delirium. What is taking place is a movement and it is a globe. It is taking a place
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across the globe. It is a movement where people and it's not just on the right either in quotation
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It's a movement of people saying that their sociopathic overlords do not represent them
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nor their interests and they want change. They don't want to hear happy talk anymore. They're
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not going to be fobbed off with a few pre-election platitudes. They want change. That's the essence
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of this movement. Ben, hang on. Perfect. Well, we're not going to the beach, but I love the idea.
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just like, and they said the magic B word, that would be Brexit.
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You know, I think Joy Ann, we're going to blow her head up so much on what's going to
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happen in Europe in the next couple of weeks in the United States, and maybe she gets a
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Nigel Farage is now, the Reform Party is polling ahead of Labour.
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I don't know what they say about Labour surging.
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I think the surging party there is the Reform Party under Nigel Farage, who's talking about
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What remains of the rump of the Tories to have a single party in opposition in Parliament.
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Your thoughts about France and about your beloved United Kingdom, sir?
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Well, let's start off with my beloved homeland.
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The news is that a YouGov survey, for the first time now, has placed Reform UK one point
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The Times of London calls this a crossover moment.
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I prefer the term, I think Nigel Farage used this himself, the expression, the tipping point
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And what you might have expected in the run-up to a general election is that a protest vote
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party, when faced with the reality of perhaps a collapse change in government or something
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like that, one might have thought conventionally that the votes, the protest votes that have
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been sustaining, if I can use the term, a protest party, a protest movement, would start to dissipate
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and converge around one of the two established political parties.
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As we get closer to the general election, the people are taking a long, hard look and they
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are definitively leaving the British Conservative Party and they're coming over.
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Even though, by the way, in this two-point leap for reform, it's actually left the Tories
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So reform is actually picking up votes not only from the Conservative Party, but also from
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the rest of the political spectrum, from the undecideds, which is an unusual and very encouraging
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That's not the only poll, Steve, I wanted to look at.
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Because, and this is, the context is, you know, what I like about the war room here is
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that we, in the run-up to the European elections, we said there is something, and not just in the
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run-up to the European elections, we said there is something taking place in Europe.
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In terms of populist nationalism, the rest of the mainstream myths, the mainstream media
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looked towards the election weekend as basically the end of a certain news cycle when they
00:36:33.320
We were, in Accra, which we were laying the analysis, the background for something that
00:36:42.160
And what's happening in the UK, what's happening in France, the total meltdown of their political
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establishment, these are consequences of what happened when the people themselves spoke
00:36:56.440
So quickly to have a look at France now, because this is a very interesting and important poll
00:37:04.740
that that's just been published ahead of their general election, which I think the first
00:37:09.560
round is on June the 3rd, and the second definitive round, and I think it's like July the 6th or
00:37:19.360
So presently, the national rally has 89 seats in the National Assembly, and it's forecast to
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leap up, get this, from 89 to 200, between 235 and 265.
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They're forecast to go from 89 to between 235, 265.
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Macron's party, on the other hand, is set to go from 249, where it is now, to down between
00:37:51.720
So that is a real dynamic that you can see, a real, what we call an undercurrent towards
00:37:58.060
It wasn't dissipated that people's anger at the abuse of their political elites wasn't
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dissipated when they voted in the European Parliament elections.
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It's actually, the results have actually encouraged and fortified them to seek realistic change.
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And as we say always, the issue here, this is the point that Joy and Reid and Claire McGaskill
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In fact, the reason for this isn't just happening in a vacuum, you know, because people, you know,
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they've just woken up one morning and said, oh, you know what, today I think I might vote
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for a party I've never voted for in my entire life.
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No, there's something, there's a massive wall of anger and disgust behind this change,
00:38:43.920
and it is principally tied to the immigration crisis.
00:38:47.820
And that is another thing that links continental Europe politics to American politics.
00:38:53.860
The other thing, you know, one more is that, particularly if you take into Germany, a new article
00:38:59.780
in the Guardian, which is no fan of the worm, as you guys know, that it's the youth.
00:39:05.760
Axios had this story the other day of how the youth vote, when I'm saying youth, I don't
00:39:09.140
mean the under 35s, I mean the 18 to 29s are coming to Trump, hurtling to Trump, I think
00:39:13.920
he lost him by 30 points in, it lost, in quotes, lost him by 30 points in 2020.
00:39:20.260
He's now tied, and the trend line is that Trump's going to take the youth vote.
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I think 24% of the youth in Germany voted for Alternative for Deutschland.
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This is where the establishment is really in shock, that with all the propaganda and
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all the Greens, the Greens are imploding across Europe as young people sit there and go look
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at this invasion of their country, the stealing of their culture, the stealing of their society,
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the crime out of control, and sit there and go, hey, I think I want the country my grandparents
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had, right, I don't want this, and they're coming, exactly what's happening here in the
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One other thing, Ben, you mentioned protest vote, these things are a process, we try to
00:40:01.440
teach process here, go to Pat Buchanan, to Perot, to the Tea Party, then to MAGA, then
00:40:10.120
the arrival of Trump, and the formation of MAGA, you go from a protest vote, to boom, now in
00:40:16.320
power, right, and that's what you're seeing here in Europe as they start to galvanize around
00:40:21.160
some of these leaders, the Bardello, which I think is a great pick, he'll probably, if
00:40:24.880
the French parliament goes along the way that the alliances look like they're working out
00:40:31.160
and the polling shows, he'll be prime minister at the age of 28, right, and this guy's as
00:40:38.540
So, Ben, there are direct connections, there are demographic connections, there's issue
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connections between what's happening in Europe and what's happening here in the United
00:40:46.720
Let's look at the youth thing, right, let's break that down, and, you know, periodically,
00:40:51.540
every few days, Steve, there's an article in the press that details this, and I always
00:40:56.220
send you the text, and I always say the kids, I have a standard tagline for this now, which,
00:41:01.360
you know, probably wearing thin, if it was ever funny, the kids are alt-right, which is
00:41:10.000
But this is a growing thing, right, let's break this down, for all the reasons that you
00:41:13.820
said, people, kids are starting to have a certain nostalgia for a way of life, for a
00:41:19.760
civility, for a way of living, for a civilisation, that perhaps, you know, their parents might
00:41:28.000
There's something else I want to suggest, however, in addition to your point, kids,
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kids are rebellious, right, kids more than adults, because when you grow into adult, you start
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Kids are trying to establish their personality, establish their identity by rejecting, you
00:41:52.540
know, and this has been, I think, a phenomenon since probably the 50s, rejecting, as it were,
00:42:01.880
The kids have been, for the generation Z, right, the millennials, they have had a certain
00:42:10.280
They've been hit with that so intensively over the last, say, 15 years, 10, 15 years in
00:42:18.120
That is the monoculture now, that if they want to establish their identity and their personalities
00:42:22.360
and their uniqueness and their individualness, that is what they have to rebel against, because
00:42:29.880
that is their omnipresent monoculture that has been hit on them so hard.
00:42:34.340
So ironically enough, Steve, ironically enough, the very thing where we might have thought,
00:42:39.980
looking at this externally, that the left, and I even mentioned this on the show a few
00:42:43.500
days ago, where the left was omnipowerful, omnipotent, in terms of its sort of forming
00:42:50.620
and shaping kids' minds, they've actually gone so far on that, kids are starting to rebel
00:42:57.900
And that's a very interesting and positive development.
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We're going to go a lot to do capital markets, geopolitics, also politics.
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In France, the meltdown right now is that the French right-wing parties, or the French
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farther from the center-right, are starting to work together in alliances.
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You see this happening in the United Kingdom, where Nigel said, hey, I have no problem merging
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with the Tory party, potentially, after the election, to be a bigger opposition, and I
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Let's go to Houston, Texas, outside the courthouse there.
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So we are standing outside of the court building right now.
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Alex is about ready to go into his first hearing.
00:45:46.900
He did speak to the press briefly before walking into the building.
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But basically today we have a couple of hearings going on.
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One for Alex Jones' personal bankruptcy and another for the bankruptcy for free speech systems.
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And free speech systems, of course, is the parent company for InfoWars.
00:46:02.160
We anticipate that his personal bankruptcy is going to be moved from a Chapter 11 to a Chapter 7, which will basically remove his ownership of InfoWars today.
00:46:10.760
We're not sure what the fate of InfoWars specifically is going to be, but it seems very likely that the judge is going to dismiss the bankruptcy, which will give the company technically back to Alex, but remove the bankruptcy protection.
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We anticipate the plaintiffs will then move to liquidate at the state court all of InfoWars' assets.
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And we don't know what the process is going to be like fighting that from this point forward.
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But it's definitely a very pivotal moment in InfoWars history and in the free speech argument.
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Was this something that Alex and his lawyers worked on to take away the bankruptcy protection, or is this something that happened with court pressure, or is this pressure from the families?
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How did we get to this place that the bankruptcy protection is being taken away?
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And to be totally honest with you, Steve, some of these answers are a little bit too nuanced for me in terms of bankruptcy law.
00:47:00.980
This is something that is part of the legal strategy for Alex Jones.
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But for several reasons, they did make this decision.
00:47:10.660
However, we have been backed into a corner to the point where it seems like every week that goes by, Steve, our options are fewer and fewer as to what we can do to keep InfoWars on the air.
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Can we still anticipate that InfoWars is going to be on?
00:47:28.540
Alex's show that goes from noon, I think it's three, four, five hours sometimes.
00:47:32.500
And you've got these other great shows up there with folks.
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Can we anticipate, at least for right now, nothing will change after the day?
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Worst case scenario would be that this will be shut down this afternoon.
00:47:50.300
I think there's probably a greater than 50% chance that we see a shutdown sometime next week.
00:47:55.380
Best case scenario would be that Alex is able to work out some sort of a deal that allows us to stay on air for the next three to four months while we liquidate and sell our inventory ourselves.
00:48:04.240
Now, based on the actions of the legal team that's been in opposition to us over the course of the last year, I don't anticipate any goodwill whatsoever.
00:48:11.480
I think they want to aggressively shut this operation down as quickly as possible, similar to how they're shutting you down in as many ways as they possibly can.
00:48:18.360
Because they don't want the truth being broadcast up as this election approaches on November 5th.
00:48:24.480
I really think that what this is truly about is preventing any pro-Trump voices from having a large audience in the coming months as this election heats up.
00:48:35.560
The possibility that the folks that are owed the money could get paid back, you would have to be on air.
00:48:41.680
Alex would have his sponsors be selling advertising, doing the things that you guys do to generate revenue.
00:48:46.900
From that cash flow, they would get it and eventually – one and a half billion is kind of hard to ever see it getting paid down, but at least some money starts coming in.
00:48:55.580
To move to liquidation and just to sell for your property, plant, and equipment as pennies on the dollar, they would never get paid back.
00:49:03.460
So it would lead one to believe that this is all about silencing Alex Jones in the run-up to the all-important 2024 election.
00:49:11.760
Is anything in my logic incorrect there, sir, as you see it?
00:49:18.440
There have been a couple of junctures during this process where we thought we were going to be able to settle with the plaintiffs.
00:49:24.460
One settlement that was offered was for over $80 million.
00:49:26.880
There was another counteroffer for over $50 million.
00:49:29.020
We understand that our assets are somewhere less than $10 million, so they're making substantially less by liquidating us than they would by keeping us or allowing us to be on the air to continue to operate and settle with them and make payments to them over the course of five to ten years.
00:49:41.740
But there's several reasons, and I won't bore you with the logistics or the details of the reasons why we didn't accept some of the settlement offers in the past, trying to silence and control speech.
00:49:50.200
They wanted a board of directors basically to run the company, which is something that was an untenable position for Alex personally.
00:49:57.600
But they made over $70 million suing Remington already.
00:50:00.760
They're making a lot of money, raising money for nonprofits and other organizations based off of depicting Alex as this perpetual villain.
00:50:07.540
So I think in their eyes they want to, A, shut him down, and, B, they anticipate that they're going to be able to generate revenue for themselves in other ways by taking the trophy that is Infowars in the freedom of speech space.
00:50:21.040
What I didn't understand, they actually went after his social media.
00:50:24.160
They went after his Twitter account last night in federal court.
00:50:30.280
And do you anticipate that will be given to them over the next couple of days?
00:50:38.960
And they did file a motion for Alex's at Real Alex Jones Twitter account to be explicitly listed as an asset in this Chapter 7 bankruptcy because they want to take it.
00:50:50.980
And they tried to make some silly arguments for why they should.
00:50:53.600
But this is something that I've never heard of or seen before.
00:50:56.740
I've never witnessed anyone have their personal Twitter account removed in a bankruptcy.
00:51:01.340
Even in examples of Tucker Carlson being fired from Fox or Don Lemon or Brian Stelter, it's unprecedented that when somebody leaves a major news organization that they have to forfeit in any way their personal Twitter presence.
00:51:14.460
So this is something that they're just trying to do without any law to back it up.
00:51:19.920
I think this judge is actually fairly reasonable.
00:51:21.740
I don't think it's something that's really going to happen.
00:51:23.460
But the fact that they're trying to do it is just another example among a litany of examples of why it seems like they're actually trying to just shut him down rather than get what's in the best interest economically, financially for the plaintiffs in this case.
00:51:43.780
We're going to hopefully come back maybe late in the second hour if Alex is out or if you're still up and we have an update.
00:51:55.760
But I encourage everybody before they follow me to follow Alex Jones, which is at RealAlexJones on X.
00:52:11.640
Man, oh man, they are coming after Alex Jones like nobody's business.
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That's a voice they definitely want to shut down in the run-up to the 2024 midterm.
00:52:29.740
I think we're going to try to track down Raheem.
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At 12 noon, Charlie Kirk is going to be, Charlie Kirk's show is going to come on.
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