Episode 3699: Reforming Our Institutions
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In this episode of War Room, we have a special guest, Scott Besson, join us to talk about the current financial situation in the United States of America. Scott is a senior advisor to President Donald J. Trump and a close ally of the President's and has been with him since the early days of his administration.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to
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medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
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the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do
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everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and
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where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of
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these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer
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is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann
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it's thursday 20 june in the year of our lord 2024 we started the show off with uh two of the
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heavyweights we had matt boyle from breitbart national political editor and we had uh the gateway pundit
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uh is is here and i've got uh i've got two heavyweights uh here and as soon as one of my
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heavyweights okay i got paul dans in studio project 2025 also lawfare paul's going to be in this segment
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but i gotta finish with thank you for coming by paul love it when you come by pleasure audience loves
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it um yeah okay we got all the mics on now we're we're having mic issues today uh scott besson
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the the uh test of whether somebody really knows something is to take a very complicated issue and
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to be to break it down very simply uh your last 60 seconds in that break was the smartest
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explanation of the three card money that um that this regime is running with janet yellen who i think
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now has proven herself to be actually dumber and more radical than she was coming out of college
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when i think she was a mouse um because this is the way the chinese communist party would finance
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something to hide it from the people just go back so you have you're adding a trillion dollars every
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hundred days you got 35 trillion i hate the way they say public debt versus all debt but
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you've got this the gross interest not the net the gross interest already over a trillion
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you've made the case and and people know that you're you're very close to the president talking
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about financial matters that this is now you believe and you're i would call a hawk like you
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come from south carolina so you're like us in virginia and south carolina you're a hawk you say that
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you believe this may be the most important national security issue facing the american people
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but explain why it's even worse than you than than we can imagine because of the way they're
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financing the problem that they created sir right and steve i'm going to correct you you know you said
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this this is a malice chinese style you know this is a peronis argentine the a shot best style venezuelan
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is you know i i think i'm starting to look like it but i've been doing this for 30 or 40 years now
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and every emerging market that i've ever seen get into trouble does what janet yellen is now doing
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you go into an election cycle the incumbent is behind they start you know they engineer a boom
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and house prices and stock prices and so you engineer an asset boom you finance the asset boom
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with borrowing and then as you get closer to the election you switch the borrowing to short-term
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borrowing like that that you know this is not the stuff the united states of america should do
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this is you know argentina turkey venezuela style and you know as i said before what she has done
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is she is paying down low-cost mortgage debt but you know she's also increasing new debt and she's
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worried that the market will not give her any more mortgage debt so she's now you know on her
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spending lalapalooza they are having to finance it with short-term 90-day debt which is the most
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unstable and you know this is going to be a mess is we have they have probably a debt ceiling coming up
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in 2025 in january and you know this isn't like the way the u.s finances are run during peace time
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or not in a recession scott one last thing just real quickly for nomenclature because people now
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think that the audience loves this i want to just give you give a there are two kind of opposite ends
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you have been warning and president trump remember the the the golden year of 2019 2018 2019 where we
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had you know low inflation low interest rates uh blue collar salaries of higher you know growing
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faster than white collar non-college graduates salaries growing higher than college graduates
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kind of the perfect you know mega economics um you have warned that because of the biden regime's
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economics fiscal plan but also their radical monetary the way they finance this just the economics and
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the finance that we are towards the end of really what started with president reagan really a supply
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side solution so i wanted can you compare and contrast modern monetary theory which is infected
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this town the political class but particularly coming from the lords of easy money on wall street
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versus what a supply side is and why you fear that we may be if if first off president trump's not
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elected you'll never see again but even with president trump being elected it's going to be a herculean task
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to get a supply side solution for this sir right so steve you know i i'm not an economist i'm an economic
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historian and you know what i have observed is the rubber has now met the road on the spending so
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you know we are stretching the debt deficits the savings glut in the world is going away the the global
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south the chinese the russians don't don't want our debt anymore and you know we would have to
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put in some proper spending so lo and behold there's a new theory called modern monetary theory
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it is neither modern nor monetary nor theory this has been around forever as you mentioned the the french
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thought it up and you know probably the reason they had to sell us louisiana it's not monetary it is fiscal
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because it is all contingent on government spending that is financed by the central bank and like i said it
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is not a theory because it has been practiced and you know on the supply side the idea is that you grow
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your way out of it and you have private solution not government spending the the government spending you
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you know what what we're seeing now you know if the chips act is so great and intel is getting all
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these subsidies why is the stock at a new low like you know that that's all you need to know
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so you know they've just run out they've run out of road with fiat currency which was
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we had brenton woods and we went off the gold standard and that kept us going for about 50 years now we're at the
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end of the road and we got to create you know this new bit of sophistry uh called modern monetary theory
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and you know the core modern monetary theory is when inflation gets high congress will stop spending
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can you imagine the uh like that they're like the politicians stop spending you know why do we have a
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central bank but it it all goes back to you know in my mind the failure the recent failure of central
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banking since a great financial crisis we have let these people become the central planners
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that you know highly educated um vision of the anointed style central planners and the central
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planning comes from setting the price of money not from you know like some gigantic soviet style plan
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it's you know we we are planning around here's the price of money we're going to buy bonds and then
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we're going to hand it to the government yeah hey i've i know you've got to bounce i got it i'm
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gonna come back i want to get into this situation with this uh with the biden bonds and the biden
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inflation that have blown a hole through this this agriculture bank in japan what that means for us also
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one last thing supply side also means you guys and what you do and will do you focus on
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the production and production capacity it's a production side solution not a consumption side
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solution correct yeah the the key to supply side is high after-tax returns on investment that's why
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it's dependent on the private sector what we are seeing right now is the green new deal
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and government spending whether it's to the bloated states or forgiving student loan debt that is
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crowding out both households who want to make productive or spending decisions but most of all
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it's crowding out business the success of the trump tax cuts was from business investment it gave people
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the confidence and you know steve i will finish with when whenever i talk to industrialists they
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will tell me the tax cuts were important and you know like everybody likes making money and having high
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after-tax returns then they said the other thing about the trump administration very different from the
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obama administration was regulatory certainty you had to know if you're going to build a pipeline if
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you're going to build a chemical plant if you're going to build a real estate development you have
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to know that you have you know that the rules are the rules and that some executive order will not change
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them yeah i i've coined a new phrase in monetary policy they talk about forward guidance on interest rates
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what will be different under a trump administration is a trump administration will give forward guidance on
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competence and confidence wow fantastic scott how do people uh get to you got a lot of writings out
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there now a lot of interviews where they go for it yeah they our central firm email is ir at keysq.com
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scott besson thank you very much we give you access to to to philip patrick and birch
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going we give you access to scott besson one of the smartest guys around thanks for the explanation
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sir okay appreciate you thank just a kid just a blue collar kid from south carolina
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it's game cock some of those game cock game cocks turn out pretty well paul dance i got a cold open paul
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dance there i tell you what let's hold that let's hold the project 2025 man they're all worked up over that
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lawfare we have the uh supreme court is going to have 21 decision i think a couple decisions came out
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today but there's tons of these uh administrative state uh others but we had uh gateway put it on
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this morning uh the justice department is involved in uh their bankruptcy they're trying to put them
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out of business give us your pull it back let's pull the camera back for a second what is going on
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here how has because president trump's on a roll now talking about the weaponization he's putting
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it up on truth every day walk me through your perspective of how the biden regime and
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particularly garden a garland at doj has weaponized uh the legal system in this country sure great to be
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with you scott um steve and great to hear scott there you know that the attacks on president trump
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and and some of even the attacks on project 2025 are all of the same kind it's essentially um you know
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they tried out the dictator authoritarian narrative but in reality it's all projection we are actually
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living now when we have an authoritarian resident in in the white house in the name of uh biden and
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and what an authoritarian generally does is uh you know as scott was saying his first model with the
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economy you know the first two purposeful things that biden did was electively spend and and touch off
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inflation really and then start war like within two months he did a pivot on ukraine and then he
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brought in the dictatorial um tactics that followed those in the main have been through lawfare and a
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perversion of this department of justice under him so um there we have on you know this again maps what
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you might see in a third world country where you have the leading candidate for president on the on the
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threshold of being imprisoned in the middle of a presidential race and uh you know quite frankly
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uh you wouldn't you wouldn't raise it because you're too modest but we also have the leading
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dissident journalists here and the probably the number one issue that the posse is thinking about
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other than trump is uh threatened to also be thrown in in the clink so i mean this is this is part and
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parcel this is how third world countries absolutely they take they take that they take the leading
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political figure they take his crew around him particularly the media and any advisors he has
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and they try to throw them right before an election i mean it's pretty it's pretty banana republic cookie
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it's true now we we know that we see the the uh what's going down but now it's time for us to act
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and i think that's what the real call to action has to be and i know you're not going to do it but
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here again you know in your particular case uh i'd submit you're the leading journalist on our side
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you know and and there is i would never call myself well i mean i i respect we have a platform
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you're a news gatherer and some yeah but uh you know the point is that journalists are protected
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here in dc if people might not know there's a journalist shield statute as there are many states
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those apply generally to courts but there again you know that in that particular case in dc congress
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ratified that statute so congress here is is using its mechanism to persecute you through the
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court system at the at the workings of the department of justice but in at the end of the
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day they're taking a major uh you know news disseminator offline in the run-up to an election
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we had we had we had uh we're gonna let's go to break we got a short commercial break uh paul
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dance with us he's in house later we are going to go to london uh to with uh with rahim and uh ben
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burquam uh now it's with bobert at five o'clock uh uh brother bob goods also going to join us at
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five thirty we're packed throughout the day paul dance in the house can your savings weather an
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economic storm think about what you've put away for the future inflation can render cash worthless real
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estate can crash like in 2008 economies built on a mountain of debt can fall like a house of cards
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there are very few physical assets you can invest in that can stand the test of time gold has withstood
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this as a valued form of money for millennia i actually think for eight thousand years of man's
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recorded history it's why people are flocking to it now why birch gold is busier than ever
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through a little known tax loophole birch gold lets you convert a retirement account into a tax
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sheltered ira in physical gold and the best part it doesn't cost you a penny at a pocket let me repeat
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that it doesn't cost you a penny at a pocket to learn more about this to immerse yourself in information
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text bannon b-a-n-n-o-n to 989898 and claim your free info kit on gold let me ask you this again can your
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ira or 401k weather an economic storm because a storm's coming if it can't call the people i trust
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that's birch gold text bannon to 989898 secure your savings today birch gold group would donald trump's
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second term really entail there are republican allies trump minimizers who argue that for all
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the bluster the second term will not really end democracy as we know it we've heard that and that's
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a common refrain on wall street where they have their own economic reasons to look at it that way
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but people who've actually served in trump's white house vowing something very different a two-front war
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dismantle what they call the administrative state and prosecute trump's perceived enemies and what
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they call the deep state oh by the way we are also going to have teams because we can multitask
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to deconstruct the administrative state and to go after criminals and the traitors in the deep state
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there you have it and that's not an obscure individual steve bannon was in the white house
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for trump now some democrats think that right now bannon is helping them and they are leaning in and
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really trying to get attention and scrutiny on a written maga plan that should scare voters they say
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you've probably heard about this so-called project 2025 which tried to grant trump larger powers dismantle
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government programs which bannon just referenced there and limit the reproductive rights of women
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around the country one democratic senator seizing on the plan to mobilize voters republicans intend to ban
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abortion nationwide and it's not just me saying that because they have made their plan public for all the
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world to see plainest day it's called project 2025 they don't even need congress to pass bills for most of
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it they will try to do this with just donald trump in the white house wielding the power of the presidency
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this is a choice it does not have to be resolved through anger or violence or sound bites or cheap fake
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videos it can be resolved through actually looking at the plans and the stated intentions of the people
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running and decide for the public which you prefer
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i've got my presidential transition mug right here project 2020 is a big old mug i love it
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um this is the book and of course this and this is just one of many you got cra's doing a plan other
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people everybody's working together remember in 16 we couldn't fill the 300 3 000 uh billets we have
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that are political appointees to oversee the 2.25 federal bureaucrats now and what's upset people
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what's that and this is you know president trump's going to have his own formal transition as he
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will somebody will head it up but this is all you got to do the work you got to do the pick and
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shovel work beforehand and this is what's gotten the left so uh upset and we are deconstructing
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the administrative state you just heard uh scott say what what the executives and industrialists want
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it is a certainty on regulatory certainty just tell me what it is the the administrative states more than
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regulations taking apart the administrative state is this vast fourth branch of government and it's
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really even infected the cabinet level to basically deconstruct that take that apart brick by brick
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and get back to what is a constitutional government and a constitutional thing i tell everybody this is
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free you go to the site of course kevin great kevin robertson you got paul danz right there is one of
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the co-authors he joins me uh and so you got a two front you actually have three front we're waiting right
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now for the for this there's five major including the chevron deference which is kind of the mac daddy
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of everything we're involved with um the administrative state at the supreme court this
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is where gorsuch and kavanaugh and these younger justices who are very focused on the administrative
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state uh are but you've also got the deep state why are people so afraid of what is just an organized
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effort to kind of think through the problems that are addressing the nation and understanding
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we can't continue to spend at seven trillion dollars a year in a two trillion dollar deficit
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part of that is you have to go in programmatically you can't just have a three percent budget cut you
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have to programmatically take things and shut them down and you do that by taking apart the
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administrative states are well i think it's only certain people who are afraid of it and those are
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the ones who've been basically stealing from the cookie jar over all these years we have now a permanent
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government in washington you know this was always the great american experiment of a government of by
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and for the people but over time this administrative state government self-governance this is the great
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experiment of self-governance democracy our democratic republic but it's it's not functioning as a
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democratic republic anymore because there's this permanent bureaucracy that's that's surrounded through
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media big tech big finance big law and it's essentially just an ecosystem that lives here in
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washington the only way we can kind of break that apart make things more democratic is bringing in new
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people and new ideas now to be clear our book is is a set of proposals by conservative organizations
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donald trump and his campaign alone set the agenda but these are ideas to help them and they'll pick and
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choose but you know a lot of the mischaracterization now and false attributions of things the project
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2025 it's it's kind of what scott's saying they have nothing else to run on right now so all they
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have is a fear and loathing uh strategy we'll put it up for an up or down vote the american people want
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the boot on their neck from a bunch of faceless bureaucrats in the administrative state that now act
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as like a praetorian guard with the deep state and the deep state's got to be taken care of and it will
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be taken care of it's going to be taken apart because that's a national security threat
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when when when you look at these people that are in full meltdown we started today with a
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eight minute cold open you know rachel maddell sad and and nicole wallace is sad and joy behar
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said and little donnie deutsch is said they're all said caitlin collins they're sad and they're sad
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because they've seen the polling numbers but they understand that the game is about to radically
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change here in washington dc and if we're to try to get our hand that's what the cbo report coming out is
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so which they lied about and they came out it's going to be worse than two trillion the timing is
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perfect because you have to have fundamental and basic change and this is a roadmap of an alternative
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of how you do it clearly president trump and his team you know i was one of the people very involved
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in the transition last time and we just didn't have the personnel what what all these different
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groups are doing it shows you so many people want to work in this administration and you're you're
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vetting or curating people right now that are subject matter experts that can go in and join
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the transition and then hit the hit the beaches uh running on uh on uh during the transition on the
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evening of uh november 5th yeah you know we need a big picture vision and donald trump sets that forth
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but we also kind of need the actual instruction manual how to get things done and that takes time
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to figure out you know when when you visit washington there's these beautiful buildings everywhere union
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station that was planned by a guy daniel burnham and he was famous you know for the city beautiful
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movement but he also made the you know the notion that make no little plans because they lack the power
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to inspire men and and and women for that matter but you know it's really that people need a grand
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vision and then the actual um details will get worked out over time what we've come together in and worked
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productively is kind of a first for the conservative movement it's you know typically a lot of a
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liken to herding cats but um our side you know we we constructively came together before anyone was
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running for president uh many of us right out of the trump admin you know i was only in politics
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really because i'm i'm a trump i'm a forever trumper not a never trumper forever if you will but you
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know it's like and i'm saying that tongue-in-cheek for for the media matters people but you know it's
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the point is that he's just part of the cult he's inspired a whole group of us from all over the
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country to to want to come serve and believe again that we can make a change in the government
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as outsiders hang on i gotta throw the story out so you know people know i i love to read i love
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to inquire and learn new things and and and go to new you know throughout the world and meet people and
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you know i've done that since i was a young person um and i'm intellectually curious and i love people
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that can bring it intellectually and i tell people that if you look at maga you'll never have to slum
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as far as it's not slumming as far as public intellectuals go and just flat out smart people
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i mean scott bessen's one of the smartest guys in finance and people will show you that same with
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paul danz and others but the the city the imperial capital refuses to believe that maga is anything
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but a bunch of people in bib overalls with pitchforks right they just you this is the ignorant working
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class in this country and trump is a fascist leader and that's it they can't believe it so paul danz
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it's paul danz is one of these other like best very humble guys modest that modest roots you're at
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is it c-span you're doing c-span the other day you're doing c-span the other day and they're on
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to grill him because he's on this project 2025 because here's why they see the gravy trains going to
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end and they see that the housing prices here are going to drop and the rest some of the restaurants
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so you know the in the lamborghini dealerships the the con is coming to an end and they're furious
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this is why we say they're sad they have a c-span correspondent and they jump danz he's going on project
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2025 give them great thoughts and really smart you know grand vision here's how you do it she's
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so infuriated her her head is blowing up she stops and he goes do you have any expertise what what is
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actually your education bracket because here in the credentialed capital of the world you have to be
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you have to have you got to be stamped with an education okay not just where you work your
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education and paul goes well i've got an undergraduate a master's from mit and a law degree from uva it's like
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boom she didn't have much to say but but you see what they always attack they think maga we they
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think maga natural if you're maga you breathe through your mouth well i want to share an anecdote is
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i'm a simple country lawyer myself but like like the folks that uh the level and the education let's not
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get caught up with like the fancy degree class because the reality is these people made things they
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they're emergency room nurses they're retired uh you know i met a guy who was chips the guy from
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on the highway patrol like eric estrada type um but you know they're all over they're the guys who
00:27:18.940
and and women who are listening to war room kind of nodding like what you know who love this country
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rudimentary background in washington but also take this and and shape your attitude of how you can go in
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and make the change here's the thing is that you don't need money for this um bill mcginley laid it
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i think very clearly the other day is that they've got two billion dollars of dark money uh and this is
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in broad daylight here's your host stephen k bannon uh birchgold.com
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slash war room uh scott bess i want to thank you we're going to break that down into clips and go and
00:30:05.660
i think today at five i'll have time i'm going to take a couple things scott said today and spend a
00:30:10.700
little more explanatory time lauren bobert is going to join us at five lauren bobert has got the lead
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story here in the in the great washington times a paper of love i read the hard copy every day and
00:30:21.660
get my hands on bobert has big primary lead in her new district i think she's at 40 everybody else is
00:30:27.420
basically at 10 so congressman bobert's going to be with us and bob good the head of the freedom
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caucus bob good is going to be with us with an update of this uh too close to call race in the
00:30:37.820
the and virginia five we'll get you updated on that today and i'm gonna break down some other
00:30:42.220
things the great thing about project 24 and other people uh apa fpi's working things steven miller's
00:30:49.420
groups working things cra everybody they're all working together is the amount of enthusiasm of
00:30:54.940
people coming in the tens of thousands or sending in resumes and i think just as a service to go back
00:31:01.500
out into the hinterlands and to be able to preach the gospel of maga and what this means about
00:31:06.780
deconstructing administrative state and getting control of this bureaucracy in and of itself is
00:31:11.900
a massive step and people are so enthusiastic you saw the other day i i know in our audience
00:31:17.500
people have gone and taken the course they've read the documents and they want to learn more
00:31:21.100
this is a great civic exercise is it not sir absolutely you know we're out in the open about
00:31:27.500
this we kind of joke tongue-in-cheek we're loud and proud but ours is on the internet project 2025.org and
00:31:34.860
and we want to look the american public's square eye and say you know we're here to support the
00:31:39.900
next conservative president and these are ideas we're behind but also let let the maga let the
00:31:45.660
base know like we're going to make this happen under president trump oh this is and this is um you know
00:31:51.980
ultimately his direction and his team's direction but we're going to make sure that he has a
00:31:56.540
complement of folks ready ready to roll we've got uh everything now is all about winning and
00:32:01.660
election integrity and and paul's very involved in all that election territory so you turn out the
00:32:06.300
vote but we got to close the deal with election integrity then we got to close the deal stop
00:32:10.780
rasking those guys between november 5th and january 6th then to inauguration day then the first hundred
00:32:16.300
days the first six months and that's where you hit the deck the beaches runner with the 3 000 people
00:32:20.940
should also understand it's it's 3 000 political appointees 1 000 senate confirmed though those will take
00:32:26.620
longer obviously uh although we will control the senate um the um but there's 18 million there's
00:32:33.740
2.5 million in the military 2.25 i think roughly federal bureaucrats that 2.25 is the part of the
00:32:39.740
deconstruction and it's by bill it's not picking on people individually however you know people
00:32:45.900
working don't forget there's 18 as they say how can 3 000 people control or how can 2.25 million
00:32:51.100
control something seven trillion dollars every year well the reality there's 18 million contractors
00:32:56.620
and approximately 10 million of those are the it services guys and people provide those services but
00:33:00.940
there's eight million i've been told by reliable sources you know they do that so they don't have
00:33:07.900
to have in the pure in the beer in the bureaucracy hey maybe that's also where we start so re melber and
00:33:14.300
the guys never see suck on that okay because this thing is we're a rising tide we've got the intellectual
00:33:22.140
energy and the fortitude to do this and i'm just so proud paul for what you guys are doing well there's
00:33:28.940
no transition without winning and we need everyone on boots on the ground to to work towards that so
00:33:35.020
you know look all of us have skills whether you're an attorney right now you can come fight the law
00:33:40.300
fair you can write an op-ed challenging this stuff you can go to that okay what they try to shut down
00:33:45.980
all the law firms so where do we get where do we get the lawyers from that's a huge deal well you know
00:33:50.380
there all the you know you don't have to be trained in in this particular brand of litigation to start
00:33:56.380
doing it you know a lot of the election integrity bar is a small one and it's pretty easy to come up to
00:34:02.220
speed on but lawyers who've practiced in other areas should should start training their focus on on
00:34:08.860
on helping out at the local level two i think you know those who can who can write well you should
00:34:15.980
be putting op-eds and decrying you know locking up the admiral but really locking up the boss here on
00:34:22.060
on july 11th and this has to be put off they're going to give him they're going to give him three
00:34:26.700
four years in prison well i don't think they they're going to do anything if we can if we can
00:34:31.100
change it nothing's immutable no like this is not we have to disrupt this plan and that depends
00:34:36.540
on the on all these groups the ags the state governor red state governors need to go to the
00:34:42.460
new york governor and say lay off uh there's our citizens have a right this man is running for
00:34:48.460
president ags need to go to the state ag in new york and say no bueno this is not happening and we
00:34:54.780
need the rnc and others to go up in front of the court and say you cannot as non-parties take our
00:35:00.940
candidate off the map and new york needs to feel full gale force of pressure to have this put off
00:35:07.740
there is no reason why that and you're working behind the scenes on this yes it's very important
00:35:11.820
to converge 100 they're going to give him a multi-year prison term and then at best delay it
00:35:17.020
and put mershon in charge of letting him go maybe ohio once once a month maybe to wisconsin you watch
00:35:22.700
they haven't come this far and destroyed this many laws and made this up to stop now they're not
00:35:27.980
stoppable unless you stop them it's just it's not a natural order they're going there they cannot
00:35:32.780
stop themselves they won't stop themselves they must be stopped and that's what we're that's what
00:35:38.940
we're working on right now correct paul danz you're a patriot and a hero thank you for coming in brother
00:35:44.780
why don't you why don't you hang you're hooked up i'm gonna paul's gonna hang on for a second let me i
00:35:48.300
want to go to london i've got ben burquam and raheem kasam uh so raheem can can raheem hear me raheem
00:35:54.860
can you give me an update you're over there for the uh for this house of commons this amazing
00:35:59.980
general election that's been called our good friend and your former colleague nigel farage
00:36:05.500
is on a roll uh tell us where you are and put it in context what's happening
00:36:11.820
yes steve thank you we are in the east of england at the moment right outside of the constituency that
00:36:18.140
nigel farage is fighting for clackton on sea i've got ben burquam here with me and
00:36:24.460
because england are playing today in the european tournament i have a pint with me
00:36:28.860
because we had to stop here at a pub to do uh to do war room for you so it is the afternoon here in
00:36:34.380
in a very very sunny east of england and you know the talk of the town the talk of the country really
00:36:41.260
is nigel farage it's how good is nigel farage and his reform party how well will they do in this
00:36:47.660
election how well are they organized uh what are they polling at and you know day by day we see
00:36:54.460
the globalist party the conservative party the governing party slipping further and further back
00:37:01.260
in the polls now i think people need to temper their expectations a little bit curb their enthusiasm
00:37:07.020
perhaps a little bit because the way the english political system works the british political system
00:37:11.100
works it's designed to keep smaller parties out of parliament it's designed to make sure that groups
00:37:17.740
like reform uk don't end up winning benches and benches dozens and dozens of seats in parliament on
00:37:24.300
a swing but the way it looks at the moment uh that nigel will certainly get elected that's how the polling
00:37:30.780
is looking right now and i've spoken to them i was with them last night i was with reform i was with
00:37:35.580
nigel i was with his immediate team um they are both extremely upbeat and i can also report have some
00:37:41.740
very very interesting ideas that we are going to start seeing starting tomorrow uh raheem hangerson let
00:37:49.900
me go to ben ben you're over there now to follow this and to to uh memorialize it for the real america
00:37:56.700
voice family uh give me your first impressions well uh i uh you know you some of you've seen that video i
00:38:04.540
went down uh jogged through london with my donald trump did nothing wrong in my make europe great
00:38:09.740
again hat and you know kind of a mixed review i mean similar to what you see in america i'll tell
00:38:13.580
you one thing you don't see all the pride crap that you see across america which is interesting but
00:38:18.300
there's some interesting dynamics going on in england that are different than you see in europe we spent
00:38:22.860
that whole you know several weeks this summer over in uh sweden and france and then i just came back
00:38:27.820
from romania and it's it's there's these ebbs and flows going on here where uh you know we're in in
00:38:33.740
england they're kind of going away from the tories the conservatives kind of going back towards the
00:38:38.780
left sadly in some ways except for in nigel's case where you have this maga movement so you have this
00:38:44.460
kind of pulling effect going on but at the same time it all goes back to my primary focus which is
00:38:49.740
illegal immigration and the impacts in particular from northern africa from the middle east and what
00:38:54.620
that's doing to all these communities so a lot going on we're going to be covering it here we're
00:38:58.620
probably going to be heading over to the mainland going into france with their elections coming up
00:39:02.700
so we're going to be you know giving it to you from multiple different angles what's happening
00:39:06.940
here and you know from time to time i might get threatened to have uh get shanked in my neck but
00:39:11.500
we'll we'll see and that's just by me yeah that's not just by not uh you should you should see his
00:39:16.620
driving he deserves it yeah i'll uh i'll uh i'm gonna play that and when we come back from break
00:39:23.420
uh raheem here's what i understand it's to ben's point about this shift the rest of the
00:39:28.300
the continent's going right wing to the right you guys had your sovereignty movement you took your
00:39:33.980
country back the reason that we didn't report is you remember raheem in 19 we were all over the
00:39:38.460
european parliamentary elections in england this is what nigel farage really had he was had a seat in
00:39:43.820
the european parliament we don't do anymore because you took your sovereignty back but why did that
00:39:48.140
movement immediately not spawn a populist nationalist movement that would that would have taken on the
00:39:53.980
tories the tories squandered brexit they look they i call england now uh you know um singapore on the
00:40:01.100
thames right instead of what it could have been why what was the five-year delay in this and why is
00:40:07.100
this sprouting up now and that's why i think labor's at 35 percent i've seen a poll with reform at like 28 and
00:40:13.340
the tories at 15 percent lib democrats i think at 11 percent why is this coming about now
00:40:20.940
yeah i would definitely take though those some of those polls which which put reform sort of 15
00:40:26.060
ahead of the conservative party i'll take them with a pinch of salt they are outliers um they are
00:40:31.020
anomalies and they're not they're not sort of repeating being able to repeat those results
00:40:35.500
across a number of polls but you're right look uh you know the tory party uh after brexit the
00:40:41.260
conservative party decided that it was going to uh try and foist uh public opinion attempt to usurp
00:40:47.900
uh the brexit movement they they really slow rolled the whole thing and and one would argue
00:40:53.260
actually that the real promises of brexit still have not been uh materialized and realized uh there are
00:40:59.420
still so many parts of the european question that we are still a part of for some reason uh and there
00:41:04.540
are things that can be done to unroll some of those things european court of human rights membership
00:41:08.060
is a big one that nigel is currently campaigning on there are all sorts of other machinations going
00:41:12.060
on there so the reason the reason that the united kingdom right now is is pulling to the left is
00:41:17.820
pulling to the labor party is not because there is this great feeling that oh sir keir starmer this
00:41:24.140
bureaucrat and his cabinet uh you know mostly dei appointments can come along and improve the
00:41:30.060
country no this election is a repudiation of the conservative party of the conservative party's
00:41:36.380
arrogance of the lockdown measures during covid of all of these things of its anti-brexit you know
00:41:41.740
forced brexit behavior all of these things and this is why look nigel's gambling on this election he's
00:41:48.700
rolling the dice and here's why because he understands he figures that whatever this labor party does over
00:41:54.860
the next four five years he's got a chance then to come in and say look that really you thought the
00:42:00.460
conservative party in government doesn't work that really doesn't work and that will lead i think to
00:42:06.140
a major major shift you can sense it you can feel it you can tell by the difference with which they
00:42:11.820
treat nigel himself out on the streets and you can tell it here you know at the pubs in the east of
00:42:16.540
england it is shifting it will just take i think one more election cycle to get there
00:42:21.180
do you think and that's for prime minister do you see a shift even how the media treats him he's
00:42:27.820
almost treated i think at the level of sir cure starmer and uh and and sunak it at least appears
00:42:33.980
to me in the media i watch your thoughts about that sir yeah look see you know ben and i were
00:42:40.140
talking to a bunch of uh a bunch of people at the pub last night a bunch of reporters um who you know
00:42:45.420
they all go to the same pubs every night they all encounter nigel on a on a frequent basis
00:42:50.140
um and and there is a complete tangible shift i mean we were reminiscing about 2015 and when i
00:42:55.820
worked with nigel in 2015 and we were all talking about you know just how different it is now how
00:43:01.020
you know how differently he's taken how much more seriously he's taken how much of the country is now
00:43:05.980
giving him a serious look and listening to you know the depth of his speeches and the depth of his
00:43:11.020
debate how they want him on all the debate stages they want to hear from reform they want to hear from
00:43:15.820
nigel farage look if i can tell you one thing that is that is unfortunate about this situation for for
00:43:21.020
nigel and reform is that how quick uh they were called to this election they haven't really had
00:43:26.460
an opportunity uh to pull together all of the best candidates they could possibly do across the country
00:43:31.660
they haven't had the ability to vet those candidates necessarily the way you'd want but they
00:43:35.500
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and buy a flag shirt today action action action supporters on there huh only jihad supporters
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only hamas supporters supporters supporters yeah yeah yeah it's your turn this is your turn where'd you
00:45:35.500
come from where'd you come from leave you want to talk i'll talk to you i'll talk to you okay
00:45:41.980
go go go i'll talk to you i'll talk to you of course when i turned off the camera they didn't want to
00:45:46.540
talk you're tough aren't you you're tough aren't you buddy let's get let's go go go he's a tough guy
00:45:54.060
he's a tough guy why are you coming to show you guys to show this that's why you want jihad you don't want
00:46:01.660
that's what you want you want to kill jews tell me the truth i'm jewish i'm jewish so you're jews for the holocaust
00:46:18.780
so um hey rahim you gotta get control you gotta get control this guy or we're not gonna have ben burquam
00:46:25.740
going anywhere um ben that's very dangerous this may be the most you've been in the darien gap you've
00:46:31.980
been on the southern border you've been in ukraine i think you may be in the most dangerous place on
00:46:35.900
earth which is section sections of london is that correct rahim the most dangerous part place in
00:46:43.660
london is between me and a pint but the second most dangerous place is in these jihadi protests absolutely
00:46:49.340
i mean you know what you didn't hear there in that clip by the way is them threatening repeatedly uh to
00:46:55.020
shank ben in the neck uh that was uh you know direct threats out in the open out in public
00:47:01.580
um and you know to be honest with you ben went of his own volition i didn't even know he was going
00:47:05.580
and and if i out for a jog and if i had known he was going i wouldn't have gone with him either
00:47:12.060
yeah no the most dangerous place actually uh rahim is between you in a free pint just let's be specific
00:47:19.260
ben uh about that uh you didn't instigate that that's just you going around the hat tell us how
00:47:24.140
dangerous you think this is compared to ukraine or compared to the darien gap or places you've been
00:47:28.380
in northern mexico on the border and cartel controlled and ridden northern mexico sir
00:47:35.740
well this is it's exactly why we see this this trend towards populist nationalism again in particular
00:47:41.580
across europe because unmitigated illegal immigration coming in particular from northern africa
00:47:46.620
and the middle east and you have places like this uh there uh here in london same thing in france when
00:47:52.140
we were in paris these no-go zones run by by islamists by jihadists and like you said i just
00:47:57.180
walked in there i'm filming with my camera i'm showing this that they've taken over basically
00:48:01.740
like what we saw nyu and columbia that these leftist colleges have given over to these jihadists
00:48:07.980
these sharia supremacists as you call them and and they're doing nothing about it and as i'm doing
00:48:13.020
this and again you you don't the you don't see that first part that the clip you want to see it's on my
00:48:17.020
social media where the guy actually says as raheem says i'm gonna kill you i'll effing kill you i'll
00:48:22.140
i'll shank you in the neck and he starts reaching into his pants and at that point you don't know
00:48:25.980
you don't know what you know if this guy's legitimate or if he's not but we do know if
00:48:29.500
history is a guide that this is the kind of behavior that this leads to when you have
00:48:35.100
unpoliced uh communities unpoliced areas where it's the average citizen the law-abiding citizens
00:48:41.340
that are the ones criminalized but you have these criminal thugs terrorists that aren't criminalized
00:48:47.020
and in a lot of times are are considered victims you've invited this so the same thing we see in
00:48:51.900
the united states is the same thing they've been for you and it's why yeah they've it's sweden everywhere
00:48:57.260
they forced this on the people real quickly ben uh you're um and steve where do people go to get
00:49:02.540
yep yeah this is why maga is so important this is why president trump being back in office
00:49:08.940
is so important yeah and why maga ascendancy populist nationalism so important europe
00:49:13.020
all the social media you can follow all that we're doing online uh you'll get it on substack
00:49:17.740
frontline america at frontline america on substack on getter at ben burkwam
00:49:21.900
frontlineamerica.com and of course americasvoice.news got a new episode of law and border
00:49:25.980
this coming saturday yeah uh rahim this is why nigel's surging in the polls is what ben saw
00:49:32.540
uh rahim how do we get you and track you you're going to be both here and in
00:49:35.900
france just like ben covering both these massive elections we'll spend more time on france tomorrow
00:49:40.540
but where can people get you and figure out where you're going to go and because i know you're going
00:49:43.900
to be up all time hours of the day yeah listen i'm learning on this trip that ben is an extremely
00:49:50.380
active and busy man so i'm just trying to keep pace with him really at the moment but i have a
00:49:55.020
new story up from our first day one in london on the campaign trail here with nigel farage that's up at
00:50:01.020
thenationalpulse.com now i hope people can go and check it out read it get up to date on what's going
00:50:05.900
on and i'm just at rahim kassam on all social media platforms glad you're there say hi to nigel look
00:50:13.740
forward to having you guys back on tomorrow rahim and ben in um in national pulse make sure everybody
00:50:18.540
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00:50:25.180
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we'll see you this afternoon charlie kirk follows us here on real american voice jack posovic after
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that steve gruber after that then miranda khan tara doll and you're back at 5 p.m in the war room we
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will see you then i want to warn you of a huge change that could be coming to our money in our bank
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intelligence and new york times best-selling author is warning about a coming event that could elevate
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this governmental surveillance to a terrifying new level in fact some of the guests i've had on the
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war room believe that the government will soon expand their powers to track our every move if we say
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government may be able to shut us out of our bank accounts i can't say for sure if this will happen
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