In this episode, President Trump speaks at the Faith and Family Conference in Philadelphia, and the Supreme Court is expected to rule soon on the controversial abortion issue. Steve and J.D. also discuss the importance of the Chevron deference ruling, and what it means for the pro-life movement.
00:01:54.720But the reason I wanted to come in right for that clip, there's going to be a platform fight at the RNC, and the platform fight is going to be about this issue.
00:02:03.000And you heard Father Pavone right there throwing down.
00:02:04.980This is a big – this is Ralph Reed's group, big right-to-life group.
00:02:08.200And they're not about to back off one inch.
00:02:10.780He said they want the – they want a robust platform in the Republican – at the Republican National Convention.
00:02:18.840And I'm just giving you a heads up, folks.
00:02:35.680This is something that people have worked on for years to get to the court, to get with the right case.
00:02:40.860How important – because Dr. Kevin Robbins is here.
00:02:44.320You've got an executive branch way to deconstruct the administrative state.
00:02:48.180You have a legislative way because, quite frankly, as you know, one of the central problems is we have laws that are passed, bills that are passed that are 500 pages long or 900 pages long.
00:03:01.100But that's nothing – the real grit of it is the federal regulations underneath it.
00:03:05.580That's where the administrative state grows like a weed, and then you've got the courts and the judicial system.
00:03:11.360And right now it's stunning how quickly, just in a couple of years – and this is because President Trump came in in 2016.
00:03:18.840This is the – this is what happens when you win.
00:03:21.180How important is the Chevron deference case, the MACDAD to really begin, I think, the most fundamental part of the deconstruction of the administrative state, sir?
00:03:36.480It is the key generalized precedent that will be set by the court this term.
00:03:42.740But let me just make a quick statement about the abortion issue you came in with as the cold open for this segment, which is we also are expecting a big, big abortion decision from the Supreme Court that hasn't come out yet, again, revealing what a giant term this is.
00:03:57.820It's a case called Moyle, and in Moyle, the Idaho legislature passed restrictions on abortions, except to protect the health of the mother, et cetera.
00:04:12.380And instead of trying to challenge that constitutionally because they lost that in the Dobbs case, they're now challenging it as being preempted by the Medicare statute, saying that it's a necessary medical treatment.
00:04:23.280So we're expecting that abortion decision.
00:04:26.440But back to the two Chevron cases, Relentless and Loper Bright, I mean, these cases are so central, Steve, and, you know, it's really the main thing they're trying to protect in many ways is all of the environmental regulation because it hinges on Chevron.
00:04:41.600And so during my confirmation hearing in 2017, it was such a hot potato that the Democrats were, like, grilling me over, are you going to continue to uphold Chevron?
00:04:52.460And the Republicans were doing, you know, the flip side of that, like, are you going to get rid of Chevron?
00:04:58.040And what I explained to them, and you just alluded to, Steve, is that this has always been in the hands of the Supreme Court and Congress.
00:05:05.720Congress could overrule the Chevron doctrine like that.
00:05:08.400I think we're going to get the Supreme Court, you know, having to step up because Congress hasn't done that.
00:05:13.580But they're the two bodies that can overrule that.
00:05:16.000If you're in the executive branch, you're stuck with whatever the Supreme Court has told you about Chevron unless and until Congress or the Supreme Court changes it.
00:05:24.360And I think we're on the verge of the Supreme Court very drastically changing that doctrine, which is the undergirding, you know, the steel undergirding of the administrative state and the fourth branch of government that Kevin Roberts talked about.
00:05:42.640You've got the Missouri about big tech.
00:05:44.380Nick, your thoughts on that, and I also want to talk about the two I think are obviously huge immunity, but I think Fisher may be one of the most important and fundamental ever done in American judicial and legal history.
00:05:56.740Let's go to Missouri first on the big tech.
00:06:00.080So we've got two big tech cases actually, Steve.
00:06:02.960One called Murthy, which is about, you know, social media working with the government to censor in the wake of the COVID so-called crisis, right, that those who were questioning the treatments, the idea of how serious a public health problem it is, the vaccines, et cetera, they all had to be censored.
00:06:23.100And then we also have restrictions on social media in the wake of the January 6th incident that were imposed by Florida and Texas.
00:06:34.080So the first case, the COVID case, is Murthy, and the case about the Florida and Texas laws is Moody.
00:06:41.500So there's another two huge First Amendment blockbuster set of cases that we're still waiting for, Steve.
00:06:47.020And, you know, sadly, the Supreme Court seemed, you know, maybe a majority of them seemed skeptical of the idea that you could try to stop, you know, the government from engaging in – or big tech on their own initiative engaging in these kinds of censorship episodes.
00:07:04.560You know, the ones who seem to have a different approach, not surprisingly, Justices Thomas and Alito, which is why they hate them and why they're trying to drive them from the court.
00:07:13.300Talk to me about – I want to go Fisher first and then Immunity.
00:07:21.320I believe Fisher, because of the illustriously linked nature of how this went down with the federal bench, federal justices, and the Department of Justice, and maybe I'm reading too much into it, but talk to us about Fisher for a moment.
00:07:33.800Sure. So Fisher, Steve, is about 18 U.S.C. 1512 C.2, which has this language that they glommed onto in the Biden administration to try to throw people in jail and throw away the key after January 6th of obstruction of an official proceeding.
00:07:52.080And if you just focused on that myopically, you could make an argument that people who caused a delay in the certification timeline on January 6th for the presidential candidates, you know, the way they see it on the left is, you know, to confirm Joe Biden's victory.
00:08:13.920And, you know, but the problem is it's part of a larger statute.
00:08:18.140It was adopted with a particular context, and that context was to seal off a loophole that became apparent during the Enron debacle.
00:08:26.940And I think that it's, you know, about documents, it's about testimony, traditional obstruction of justice situations, not situations of someone exercising their First Amendment rights and going up to the Capitol to raise a sign or, you know, shake their fist in the air and complain about the election problems in 2020.
00:08:50.820So I think the statute's been wildly misinterpreted and just bent to this purpose of throwing the book at January 6th.
00:08:59.740And I think, you know, from the oral argument, although it can be hazardous to make predictions based on oral argument, it looks like the Supreme Court's pretty skeptical of applying 1512 C.2 in that way.
00:09:11.160And so we're talking about the consequences of that, you know, number of people could be freed who or have their sentences reduced or they could just be let out of jail because they've already served enough time for their other charges.
00:09:23.960And it knocks out half of Jack Smith's D.C. indictment against President Trump.
00:10:39.260And look, you know, you mentioned Judge Sirica and even the judges back then in the 70s, you know, during the Nixon era on the D.C. circuit, the appellate court.
00:10:48.700Jeff Shepard, who was in the Nixon White House counsel's office, has convincingly shown in scholarships since then that they were engaged in ex parte context.
00:10:58.260They were working with the Democrats essentially to pillory and drive Richard Nixon from office.
00:11:03.460We're seeing the same kind of Democratic playbook down in Atlanta where we have this other judge, Glanville, who has the young thug case.
00:11:12.860He's having ex parte contacts with the prosecutors and he's threatening witnesses.
00:11:17.760And there's a defense lawyer who finds out about that.
00:11:20.840And instead of the judge saying, you know, hey, I guess I was caught having improper ex parte contacts, he demands to know how the lawyer found out about it, which isn't the issue.
00:11:29.660Then he holds him in contempt and orders him to jail like every weekend for the next like five months.
00:11:35.260And the Georgia Supreme Court had to put a freeze on that while they they take a look at it.
00:11:41.600I think they're going to reverse that lickety split.
00:11:43.880So it's just the way Democrats proceed. Right.
00:11:46.460Like you cannot have what is an ex parte contact?
00:11:49.200It's a it's a situation where the judge is talking to only one side outside the hearing and ability to advocate of the other side.
00:11:56.560It's a violation of basic due process.
00:12:06.580Because this is the one MSNBC and I realize it's huge.
00:12:08.920I happen to think Fisher is 10 times more important because it gets back to Watergate and it gets back to the way they roll.
00:12:15.680It gets back to the way the apparatus operates.
00:12:18.980But I know MSNBC on immunity, your thoughts on immunity, sir.
00:12:23.400Sure. And look, Steve, all this stuff is going to come out in terms of you ask the question of of the Garland Justice Department and how they came to these theories.
00:12:31.140Those documents are going to get released unless they're destroyed.
00:12:34.600But then they have bigger problems when that's discovered as well.
00:12:38.060So, look, the immunity case is is huge because what it ties to is the election of 2024.
00:12:45.520Right. If they can get this trial that Jack Smith is trying to gin up against President Trump going again and they can get it, you know,
00:12:53.220right in the key period of the fall before the election is held, which is what they're aiming for, then, you know, that's huge.
00:12:59.860That could tip the election against President Trump.
00:13:03.040And so President Trump, I do believe, has immunity.
00:13:06.880I think the Supreme Court is going to set the parameters of that in in the Trump case.
00:13:11.680And I think that, you know, the arguments that the left has against this, people like Larry Tribe having meltdowns about that, you know, we have situations where the courts have created immunity doctrines before.
00:13:24.260They've created a civil immunity doctrine for the president in a Nixon case.
00:13:28.920So this would just be extending that to the criminal context.
00:13:33.060We have situations where judges cannot be brought up on charges because they have judicial immunity.
00:13:37.840Prosecutors have prosecutorial immunity.
00:13:40.200All of these things are creatures of case law.
00:13:42.180And all that I ever see on MSNBC is the lame talking point of there's no specific presidential immunity provision in the Constitution.
00:13:51.580Well, welcome to the world of immunity doctrine.
00:13:54.040The courts have created immunity doctrines before in order to make the constitutional system work, and that's what we're talking about here.
00:14:01.040And I think we're going to see them create some form and define it, a span of immunity for President Trump, and then they're going to remand.
00:14:09.140And hopefully they're going to keep a tight leash on Judge Chutkin because I think if she doesn't have that tight leash, she's going to rush ahead to try to get this trial to dirty up President Trump so that, you know, the election can be interfered in.
00:14:22.480And then they can block Trump from returning to office.
00:17:13.360So, look, they're talking out of both sides of their mouths.
00:17:16.120If you watch any of the so-called mainstream media, they say that, oh, Jack Smith, he's independent, right?
00:17:22.060He's independent of President Biden, and he's independent of Merrick Garland, you know, in large measure, right?
00:17:30.800And so they do that in order to prevent and block off the argument that Biden is the one who's really ginning up these prosecutions against President Trump and those adjacent to President Trump, right?
00:17:41.240But, well, if that's true, though, then they have a big problem, which is being explored in these amicus briefs that have been filed and, you know, motioned by President Trump as well down in Florida, that then it's unconstitutional, right?
00:17:57.680He's got the powers of all U.S. attorneys.
00:17:59.660He's like Shazam fused into one, but he is not Senate-confirmed.
00:18:04.460So if he is operating outside the chain of command in the executive branch up to Merrick Garland and up to the president, then they have a big constitutional problem.
00:18:13.240So then they, you know, to try to fend that off, they're like, well, he's actually subject to Merrick Garland's supervision.
00:18:18.960So then Judge Cannon's like, all right, well, let's explore that.
00:18:25.100You know, and then they try to clam up and basically say, well, you can't know about that because that's all privileged, right?
00:18:31.780So it's a convenient way to try to do whatever they can do to make a point that they want to make, right?
00:18:38.080They want to avoid the political consequences of the fact that he's really not independent.
00:18:42.360And even if he were independent, then he's unconstitutional because he's not Senate-confirmed.
00:18:47.300So, you know, they're casting about saying to themselves, what can we do about this?
00:18:50.880They decided on the strategy last night, it seems, of let's file another gag order against President Trump.
00:18:56.740And they try to paint themselves as virtuous.
00:18:58.860Like, we've, you know, exercised a lot of restraint here.
00:19:02.180We haven't filed prior gag orders down here in Florida.
00:19:05.220You know, they were just doing that up with Judge Chetkin in D.C.
00:19:08.560But, you know, so they're asking for one now and they're saying that, you know, agents and other DOJ personnel are at risk because of what President Trump's saying.
00:19:17.300So let me say something about that quickly.
00:19:18.940Look, yes, there are standard operating procedures that the FBI follows.
00:19:24.580But if you're going to do the first ever raid and execution of a warrant, you know, on a surprise basis against a former president of the United States, first time that's ever happened in history, do you use the standard playbook, Steve?
00:19:37.920Or do you say, look, we're going to have a special process here, we're going to treat the former president with respect, and we're going to make sure we don't have any inadvertent incidents between the FBI on the one hand and the Secret Service on the other, right?
00:19:51.960And of course, that's exactly the way they dealt with Joe Biden when they went to supposedly do investigation of his documents issue, right?
00:20:00.920So President Trump never gets the benefit of that equal treatment, and the fact that they, you know, they purported to pull off their off-the-shelf standard operating procedure is suspicious, I think, for the reasons you've laid out.
00:20:13.260And President Trump should be able to criticize that under the First Amendment, especially during an election season.
00:20:18.700Quickly, Alvin Bragg, the last 48 hours on MSNBC is how the death threats to Tish James, death threats to Alvin Bragg, is just terrible, President Trump and his awful followers.
00:20:31.800This is all laying a predicate, is it not, sir, for a multi-year prison sentence to be handed out by Judge Mershon on 11 July?
00:20:39.360Yes, Steve, a couple days ago I was at a conference and I was sitting next to, you know, a learned lawyer who's in the criminal defense bar, and that lawyer was speculating that, you know, he doesn't think that President Trump's going to get a prison term.
00:20:55.220I told him I wasn't so sanguine about that, given everything else that's happened with Judge Mershon up there and giving Alvin Bragg and Matthew Colangelo their wicked way against President Trump.
00:21:05.860And look, we had a gag order development up there.
00:21:10.000You know, he's being shut down from talking about that ridiculous case, which now even Andrew Cuomo recognizes is a ridiculous case that wouldn't have been brought against Trump if he weren't a presidential candidate on the Republican side.
00:21:22.780And the New York Court of Appeals, that's their highest court, you know, they don't call it the Supreme Court, they call it the Court of Appeals.
00:21:30.200They ruled that no substantial question was presented by the gag order.
00:21:34.080And I just think that's facially laughable.
00:21:36.740Of course, it's a substantial question if the president of the United States is being muzzled and gagged during a presidential election season about a ridiculous records-related misdemeanor case that they've, you know, plussed up into a felony using three theories that President Trump had no notice of.
00:21:55.680And it's like, pick a theory, pick your adventure path, like just security, the leftist folks have admitted.
00:22:02.320Jeff, my call is prison sentence deferred to start on 6 November, the day after the election.
00:22:12.880And he won't – he will not be remanded.
00:23:09.960Ben, pre-revolutionary – I want to go to France.
00:23:13.060And I also want to go to the Uniparty's come together.
00:23:15.840Richie Sunak will be the first, as you mentioned, the first member of – the first prime minister in the history of England to be turfed out of his own House of Commons.
00:23:45.600This is Tony Barber, I think, their foreign affairs editor.
00:23:48.400He says, in June 2014, the Paris news magazine, Le Poir, commented that France finds itself now in a pre-revolutionary situation where everything is becoming possible.
00:24:03.080Ten years later, the FT says, after President Emmanuel Macron's gamble in calling snap legislative elections, is Le Poir's prediction finally coming true?
00:24:17.180And this is funny because when we spoke before the show today, Steve, this is exactly the possibility that we're now confronted with.
00:24:27.000You said it yourself, the French are basically in a revolutionary frame of mind.
00:24:33.640And France, just like the United States, in fact, identically in this sense, you are both two cultures, two societies, made in the imprint of your respective revolutions 230, 250 years ago.
00:24:50.880And it's very much in the forefront of the political establishment's mind.
00:24:56.180But in both cases, in America and in France.
00:24:59.880And here's the point, the gamble that Macron, this is really why he failed.
00:25:05.260And why his whole political class, you know how they pride themselves on being out of touch.
00:25:10.100They pride themselves on being against, about trying to control the democratic impulse, which they see as leading potentially to the overthrow of the system.
00:25:23.700They have that anarch system, that special school where they go to all the top civil servants in France go to this school.
00:25:31.220And they learn, it's like a military school in the sense that it brainwashes you and gives you a specific ideology and a specific contempt for the people.
00:25:41.740Which, by the way, open brackets, is exactly what they tried to implement explicitly when they started constructing the European Union.
00:26:09.140She's a standard, basically, I would suggest in the French mold, socialist, protectionist.
00:26:15.060The one thing that she is, is vehemently anti-immigration into her country.
00:26:19.800And that is the single issue which puts it against the rest of the French political establishment.
00:26:25.600That establishment is so out of touch, Steve.
00:26:27.540It believed that when confronted with a straight up or down vote on a snap general election, the country would panic, face with the far right.
00:26:39.340And it would say, OK, OK, we'll go back into the globalist embrace.
00:26:45.340That is how far removed the French political establishment is.
00:26:52.760We didn't get to discuss it on the show yesterday.
00:26:54.260There's now a poll that came out yesterday that puts Macron at the lowest point now.
00:27:00.480It's tied to the lowest point he was that he achieved, both in the height of the Yellow Jacket protests and then in the farmers' protests in April of last year.
00:27:12.720He fell six points from one day to the next.
00:27:15.180He's now level pegging, the lowest level that he's ever been as president.
00:27:20.660And the reason is, is that, right, there is a revolution taking, sweeping across the European Union.
00:27:27.920But it's not a crypto fascist revolution.
00:27:30.560It is a revolution of people, ordinary voters, traditionally from both sides of the political spectrum, that are disgusted with the autism of their political establishment and are absolutely determined, as Kevin Roberts was saying earlier in the American context, determined and focused on taking their country back.
00:27:52.860And that is what we're seeing in France right now.
00:30:24.960I've got two tweets about you, about my beatdown of Paul Ryan the other day, about talking about character and, you know, Trump's lax character.
00:30:35.120You brought two brutal tweets up about Paul Ryan's character related to the Steele dossier that has not gotten anywhere near the exposure it is.
00:30:49.520Remember in 2016, let's rewind the tape.
00:30:52.080It was Russia collusion, Russia collusion, Russia collusion.
00:30:55.120And then Speaker Paul Ryan enlisted me and Devin Nunes to investigate the Russia collusion.
00:31:00.940Nobody knew what the Steele dossier was in 2016.
00:31:03.740They had already gone to the federal court and unlawfully surveilled Donald Trump with it.
00:31:07.380But what we didn't find out until after we completed our investigation in 2018 was that the Speaker, Paul Ryan, who charged us with investigating Russiagate, was the first guy to ever get a copy of the Steele dossier in 2016.
00:32:51.320The quintessential piece of evidence which was exposed because I went to DOJ and got the FISA, which the Steele dossier was an entire part of,
00:32:59.720and Paul Ryan was the one that fought us tooth and nail on, remember, on declassifying it.
00:37:26.160Ben, I've got you a couple of free minutes here.
00:37:29.000The coming together, starting this morning in the United Kingdom, the whole thing is for Tories and Labour to come together, MI5 and MI6, and destroy Nigel Farage about his feelings towards Ukraine and to Russia.
00:37:45.260So, Steve, he came out and said that Moscow's February 2022 invasion of Ukraine was, and I quote, a consequence of EU and NATO expansion, right?
00:38:03.840This is what we've seen is the uniparty unifying.
00:38:07.980This is Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak coming together to condemn these outrageous remarks, which, of course, any member of the war in policy will say, yeah, sure, it's obvious.
00:38:18.920But in communist Britain, you can't tell the truth anymore.
00:38:24.960And so they've come together to say that basically this is pro-Putin propaganda, suggesting that the country won't be safe in his hands.
00:40:50.780We have to have a free and fair election with only certifiable chain of custody votes by American citizens, Congressman Good.
00:40:58.600How is your campaign going to fight, I guess, the Yunkin administration, the GOP establishment, the McCarthy apparatus?
00:41:05.940What in the hell is going on down there in the Commonwealth?
00:41:07.900Well, I will say my opponent and the McCarthy allies who are funding and supporting his campaign will do anything to try to win an election.
00:41:17.400Those who act like Democrats also run and campaign like Democrats and use Democrat-type tactics.
00:41:24.460And this is on top of the things that I just raised, many other concerns and suspicions and irregularities and things that just don't look and smell right that we're pursuing.
00:41:34.020So we will be pursuing a hand count recount.
00:41:36.620We'll also be pursuing a contesting of the election in terms of trying to get investigated and adjudicated the things that cause some of these results into – legitimate cause to question the results as to whether or not they might have altered the election, certainly.
00:41:54.180And this should not be certified until these concerns are obviously investigated and adjudicated accordingly.
00:41:59.860So we're pursuing it with legal counsel, and we will be filing some things next week.
00:42:06.760Congressman Good, where do people go to keep up on this moment-to-moment?
00:42:10.640Your social media and also the website, people are all over this.
00:42:14.220This has national and global implications, sir.
00:42:21.160They can sign up for our communication there, so we'll keep them in the loop.
00:42:24.520They can also support what will be an expensive recount and election contest there, because we're going to need some help financially also.
00:42:35.900Congressman Good, thank you very much.
00:43:01.020I know the Commonwealth, and I'm telling you, President Trump can win it, but the only way to win it is to make sure that it is absolutely bulletproof as far as any ability to steal it,
00:43:11.000because they get some bad hombres wandering around my Commonwealth, and, hey, they'll steal it from Donald Trump in a second.
00:43:16.760This has national and global implications, and also for the security of the house.
00:43:26.800Don't let happen to you what happened to Graceland.
00:43:29.300HomeTidalLock.com slash ban, and don't let anyone get into your castle.
00:43:34.460Have you heard of cancer-fighting foods?
00:43:36.100The American Cancer Society discovered diets rich in fruits and veggies may actually lower – let me repeat that – lower your risk of cancer.
00:43:46.700Now, hopefully, you're motivated enough to run out to the store and get five full servings of fruits and veggies.
00:45:57.360Governor Ganks has been all over you for a while.
00:45:59.500Tell me about your experience with the FBI, sir, taking your phone and trying to shut down your business.
00:46:04.640Well, you know, as everybody remembers, I was in a hardy restaurant coming back from a hunting trip and we got surrounded and they didn't identify themselves.
00:46:13.180And if it would have been a night scene, I would have bashed through them and went to find a real, you know, a sheriff or something.
00:46:18.960And it would have been a high speed, dangerous shade.
00:46:20.820I got out and I said, hey, who are you and what do you want?
00:51:06.920I even got some reports of agitators that were set up in Delaware County in one of the parks last night that are coming in from out of state.
00:51:13.620And I said, you know what, I don't care.
00:51:43.420So, OK, making my point between the connection between Donald Trump, Emmanuel Macron, Nigel Farage, there's something, there's a parallel between all of them, right?
00:52:54.400We'll be back live, 10 a.m. Monday morning.
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