Bannon's War Room - Episode 3708： Chaos In the Courtroom In Florida; Trump's Rescue Mission

00:00:00.000 in the courtroom for this hearing. What's been happening so far?

00:00:05.040 That's right. That's right. Jack Smith is in the courtroom. He was not here on Friday,

00:00:09.020 but he is here today. And they're arguing this morning over a rather esoteric, legalistic,

00:00:14.440 highly technical question that, by the way, has already been litigated in the Hunter Biden case,

00:00:18.980 which is the question of whether the existing appropriation for the special counsel's office

00:00:23.720 is legal under the Constitution, in part because it dates back to the old Independent Counsel Act,

00:00:29.100 which expired in 1999. So Donald Trump's lawyers are trying to argue that it's not legal and

00:00:35.060 therefore this entire case should be thrown out. It flows from their argument on Friday where they

00:00:39.900 argued that the special counsel's office was illegal under the Appropriations Clause, a different part

00:00:44.640 of the Constitution. The big picture here is that many legal experts say these are not the kind of

00:00:49.740 things that should be burning a day and a half of hearing time before a trial judge. These are

00:00:54.440 appellate court issues, legal issues, not fact issues. But nonetheless, Judge Aileen Cannon has

00:00:59.280 chosen to have a hearing on nearly every disputed matter. And that's what they're talking about

00:01:04.160 today. This question of whether the technical language of the law in the Independent Counsel statute

00:01:10.220 applies here and whether the case should be thrown out on those grounds. It's a real long shot.

00:01:16.300 Again, Hunter Biden's lawyers tried it and failed, but we don't know exactly what Judge

00:01:20.460 Cannon's going to do here. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies

00:01:30.280 because we're going medieval on these people. Here's the time I got a free shot at all these

00:01:35.880 networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like

00:01:41.180 hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to

00:01:44.140 stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:01:48.580 MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:01:56.080 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,

00:02:03.020 this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:02:09.440 It's Monday, 24 June, year of our Lord, 2024. We have a lot of breaking news to go through,

00:02:22.500 including about this debate, quote unquote, so-called debate. We're going to get to that

00:02:27.320 momentarily. But Julie Kelly joins us now by phone from Miami. She was in the courtroom today.

00:02:35.520 Julie, CNN, massive headline lead story is that Judge Cannon had a full beatdown on Jack Smith

00:02:44.480 today, said Reading the Riot Act, dressed him down as their headline, dressed him down,

00:02:48.500 which is pretty hard for CNN to say. That very dismissive cold open, it started off as like,

00:02:54.900 this is just another Trump delay tactic. But the federal judge did not take it like that, ma'am?

00:02:59.660 No. So, yes, I just left the courtroom. She had two separate hearings today. This morning was a

00:03:07.180 continuation of the motion to dismiss based on the unlawful appointment of Jack Smith that took

00:03:13.700 all day Friday and then third of the morning. And then this afternoon was debate over Jack Smith's

00:03:19.960 proposed gag order against the former president to ban him from making public, critical statements

00:03:27.880 about law enforcement agents involved in this case and, of course, specifically the armed

00:03:34.100 unprecedented raid of Mar-a-Lago. Yes, Judge Cannon, I will say this morning, what I saw is what I've seen

00:03:41.520 a lot of Judge Cannon, and that is really pressing both sides to make their arguments. As you played in

00:03:47.440 the cold open, it is a very leading technical debate as to the congressional authority that permits

00:03:57.040 Jack Smith's appointment, the constitutional separation of powers issues. I will argue with

00:04:04.120 whoever was saying that this was an issue for the appellate court. Well, of course it's not. This is a

00:04:09.040 motion presented to the trial judge, Judge Cannon, if you are going to choose every right to hear both

00:04:16.020 sides of this motion. But I would say this is Congress's responsibility, Steve. Yet another example

00:04:24.060 of Congress not doing their job dropping the ball on whether it's a statutory language in the special

00:04:32.640 counsel, alleged statute, independent counsel. They kept going back and forth on that. These Reno

00:04:39.100 regulations that were put in place after the independent, the original independent counsel statute

00:04:44.540 expired. And then, of course, appropriation. And what Judge Cannon really was drilling down on today,

00:04:52.100 and this is where she confronted James Pierce, who is one of Jack Smith's prosecutors. She kept asking

00:04:59.980 where the appropriation source is, what congressional authority allows, what the DOJ says and Judge Cannon

00:05:08.700 said, this is a permanent, indefinite, limitless supply of public money to the special counsel without any

00:05:20.900 oversight by Congress. And so that was really, I think, CNN's headline. That's really where she was

00:05:28.680 grilling Jack Smith's team as to the congressional authority, the separation of powers issue, that they

00:05:36.640 just have this nonstop, they get up our tax money going to Jack Smith, no oversight, no accountability.

00:05:44.020 And I think that that might be an issue, aside from the congressional or constitutional authority of his

00:05:51.440 appointment. Really, the funding source, and who says that the special counsel, unaccountable special

00:06:00.060 counsel, can also have access to an unlimited amount of public money, because there's really no other

00:06:08.020 comparable appointment or office that has that.

00:06:12.100 So, Julie, yeah. Julie, she kept asking questions. I just want to know what the answers were. She kept

00:06:19.420 asking who's supervising Jack Smith, who's overseeing this, the kind of conversations he's having with

00:06:26.700 Maine Justice. And also, is there a budget, with spending, appropriations, who back in the House?

00:06:34.320 Did Jack Smith or his team answer any of these questions, or did they just simply blow them off?

00:06:41.460 It's mostly a blow-off, which the DOJ's position now is that the special counsel is an inferior officer

00:06:50.840 of the Department of Justice, which allows for the attorney general as the principal officer,

00:06:58.060 superior officer, to appoint inferior officers. But then, of course, that opens up a lot of

00:07:04.300 the whole bag of worms. Well, then, who is overseeing this inferior officer? Well, it's the

00:07:12.460 attorney general. And so, Cannon again brought this up. Is the attorney general overseeing the special

00:07:20.020 counsel? Well, yes, in a way, but he's still independent. It's not a day-to-day oversight.

00:07:25.540 Which, of course, flies in the face of how Merrick Garland presented Jack Smith when he was appointed

00:07:34.080 in November of 2022. And his continued... The Jack said it's completely independent because they

00:07:41.480 want to demonstrate... They want to demonstrate no conflict between the Biden-Garland DOJ and what

00:07:50.020 Jack Smith is doing.

00:07:54.240 Let's pivot now to the gag order. Did we make any progress in the gag order? Of course, as you know,

00:08:00.180 the war room has... We have some skin in this game. So how did it go in the gag order?

00:08:04.640 Yes. Yes, your name did come up, albeit by defense attorney Todd Blanche, who was one of Trump's

00:08:12.200 attorneys. And so after the whole kerfuffle of May 21st, it's a little weird to sit there

00:08:21.140 hearing them talk about May 21st and that week because, of course, I do know Steve. I was the

00:08:25.240 first one to post the motion and the FBI operations plan. And then that prompted Donald Trump and

00:08:34.520 others to weigh in and say how the DOJ-FBI authorized the use of lethal force in Mar-a-Lago, which

00:08:41.800 is true. At any rate, in sort of a safe-base measure, Jack Smith came to the court a few days

00:08:51.120 later, Friday the 24th of May, seeking this gag order saying that Donald Trump was lying, making

00:08:57.320 false inflammatory remarks about the elements of the FBI Mar-a-Lago raid, that these posed an imminent

00:09:07.320 and foreseeable threat to the law enforcement agents involved in the case, that Donald Trump has a

00:09:13.840 history of history of doing this, and that Judge Cannon, not just a gag order like we saw in Washington

00:09:21.140 or we saw in New York, but to set specific conditions to his bail that would prevent him from making

00:09:28.080 public criminal, a public critical statement about law enforcement agents in the case. And he was not really

00:09:39.520 by DOJ's argument, as you can imagine, because they could not demonstrate a clear nexus between

00:09:46.920 Trump's true social posts and the email saying how Joe Biden's DOJ was locked and loaded, ready to take

00:09:54.260 out him and his family, and any threats that have been made to any law enforcement officials in this

00:10:01.340 case, because as Judge Cannon said, all of the names of law enforcement agents have been redacted

00:10:08.580 from all the materials that have been posted. So how can you threaten an FBI agent involved in

00:10:14.540 the Mar-a-Lago raid when the name is not public? So that was really her back and forth with David

00:10:22.900 Harbaugh, who is one of the other prosecutors, who almost got himself thrown out of the courtroom,

00:10:29.640 by the way, to the scene. That was interesting. How did that happen? How did that happen?

00:10:35.500 So David Harbaugh, you'll recall, and I reported this from the last hearing, Judge Cannon had to

00:10:42.720 tell him to calm down, because he was having a mini temper tantrum about how the proceedings were

00:10:49.020 going. He was pounding on the podium, he was like clapping his hands in anger, so he had to tell him to

00:10:54.580 calm down. Well, today David Harbaugh comes up, and he starts addressing Judge Cannon like she is a

00:11:01.600 child. It was so obvious from the beginning. They all have this condescending tone, Jay Barrett and

00:11:08.100 David Harbaugh, but this was really amplified today. He was really intentionally trying to get under her

00:11:14.760 skin. So he's up top, he's like, well, as I just said, Judge Cannon, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:11:22.080 And he was really trying to goad her into what she did finally say, which is, Mr. Harbaugh,

00:11:31.640 I'm going to ask you, I don't like your tone. I expect a quorum in my courthouse at all times.

00:11:38.560 If you cannot act appropriately, one of your colleagues can take up this motion.

00:11:44.820 So he backed off a little bit, and then at the end of their initial exchange, he said,

00:11:52.600 I want to apologize. I did not mean to act unprofessionally. Yes, he did. This is what

00:11:59.060 we get to pay for. These bullies, these thugs going in saying that Donald Trump's troops 0.98

00:12:06.160 pose a threat to law enforcement while demeaning a federal judge sitting here presiding over this 0.97

00:12:13.860 case. The hypocrisy is just off the chart. Judge Cannon's hung tough on this. Where do we go next 0.82

00:12:22.700 on this, Julie Kelly, on this case? So my guess is that she is going to say that the motion for

00:12:29.300 conditions of release of the GAB order really is premature, that the DOJ has not demonstrated any

00:12:35.440 nexus between Donald Trump's posts for his comments and legitimate threats to law enforcement.

00:12:41.700 And she, I believe, will then say, we will address this pre-trial, how we make sure that law

00:12:47.180 enforcement agents who are witnesses in the trial receive protection, et cetera.

00:12:52.800 Tomorrow, though, Steve, there's another hearing. There's a sealed hearing for two motions.

00:12:59.420 One is related to D.C. former Chief Judge Carol Howell, our favorite judge, who took the extraordinary

00:13:06.760 step in 2023 of piercing attorney-client privilege between Donald Trump and Evan Corcoran, forcing

00:13:13.940 Evan Corcoran to turn over all of his records and communications related to the documents

00:13:18.920 investigation to Jad Smith. So Donald Trump's team has filed a motion to suppress that evidence.

00:13:28.520 So that will be heard at a sealed hearing first, and then a public hearing tomorrow afternoon.

00:13:33.460 After that part of the hearing, we will also hear another defense motion to suppress evidence

00:13:41.040 from the Mar-a-Lago raid. And see, that is when the defense will sort of get into the details

00:13:47.080 as to how the Mar-a-Lago raid was conducted, how it violated the broad term of the search warrant,

00:13:54.320 how the warrant application itself was deceitful, that they misled Judge Bruce Reinhardt, which

00:14:01.740 probably was easy to do, and did not give Judge Reinhardt all of the information, how the

00:14:08.600 investigation had proceeded from that from the very beginning. So another big hearing

00:14:14.500 tomorrow afternoon. I will be there covering it as well.

00:14:20.160 Julie, can you hang on one second? I have to ask you. I want to take a short commercial

00:14:23.400 break. I need to ask you about Fisher and about immunity in one of the biggest weeks in the

00:14:29.840 history of the Supreme Court. They'll start putting out opinions Wednesday. They may give

00:14:34.520 us another day on Thursday. Never know. Maybe another day on Friday. Maybe even to next week

00:14:38.440 because I think they have 18 left to go, including a couple of three blockbusters.

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00:16:19.260 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:25.880 Julie Kelly, we have a presidential debate on Thursday night. Well, let me say this. I'll talk

00:16:32.620 about this segment supposed to be about them. We get to in a second. They should not have a

00:16:37.220 presidential debate. First off, we don't know if Joe Biden's even going to be the nominee. Number

00:16:41.140 one, that should be very clear. Number two, these rules, as shown today, CNN has no respect for the

00:16:48.480 Trump campaign, for President Trump, for MAGA, for the American people, and certainly not for the

00:16:54.020 institution of a fair debate of what they did to the press secretary today. But I'll get into that

00:16:58.520 in just a moment. This debate is on, is Thursday night. You have Wednesday, I thought, just for the

00:17:07.760 opinions, have they added Thursday and Friday? And where, ma'am, is Fisher? And where is immunity

00:17:14.020 in between Wednesday, Thursday, Friday? Right. So the Supreme Court announced today that they will be

00:17:21.340 publishing opinions on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, because to your point, they've got 18

00:17:27.580 opinions still that have not been posted, two among them. The crucial decisions about Fisher,

00:17:36.880 the DOJ's abuse of the 1512C to obstruction of an official proceeding statute, post-Enron statute,

00:17:44.440 against 350 J-6ers and half of Jack Smith's indictment against Donald Trump in Washington,

00:17:49.960 which is related to the event of January 6th. That we're anxiously waiting for and half then.

00:17:55.380 And then, of course, the question of presidential immunity, whether a former president has immunity

00:18:01.280 from criminal prosecution for his office in office, which also relates to the four counts of

00:18:08.700 Jack Smith's J-6 indictment. There is some speculation, Steve, and I hope this is not the case,

00:18:16.560 because it will represent such a brazen interference by the court and political proceedings, political

00:18:26.360 issue. And that is, some speculate that the court will hold off publishing both Fisher and immunity

00:18:33.240 until Friday after the debate. So neither matter can be raised during the debate. And if both issues

00:18:44.600 sort of go the way that we're anticipating the consensus, especially Fisher, that Donald Trump

00:18:49.860 can use it to his advantage in that debate. So let's hope that the court is not, you know,

00:18:59.820 trying to prevent the former president from highlighting this lawfare against him and his supporters

00:19:09.020 by withholding publishing those opinions until the debate Thursday night.

00:19:16.620 But isn't this how we've allowed the left, you know, that we talked with Mark Paoletta,

00:19:22.960 he says a lot of this pressure, a lot of the banging on the court every day, a lot of the protests around

00:19:27.120 the houses is to get them to pull in, like particularly on a case like Fisher, right, or like the Chevron

00:19:34.040 deference to pull in what they're where they would really want to go, quite frankly, after being

00:19:38.360 intimidated. And the Fisher, look, I think Fisher could be one of the most important decisions in the

00:19:45.400 history of the court and completely exposed like what happened in Watergate with Sirica and the

00:19:51.360 federal bench working with the Justice Department and working with the committees and having behind

00:19:56.340 the scenes meetings. Have you ever read Jeff Shepard's two different volumes on this? He went, he's it's

00:20:03.140 all archived. He's got everything's got a receipt. There's no speculation in this. And he proves it

00:20:08.080 categorically how they took out Nixon. And even Nixon wasn't big enough or tough enough to take him

00:20:12.940 on. Isn't that what Fisher isn't? Fisher could be one of the most explosive decisions ever in the

00:20:18.820 history of the court. And hey, ma'am, it makes sense to me if I'm those guys, I drop them on. I'm out of

00:20:24.800 town. They drop Friday afternoon. And I'm on a plane to somewhere to take the rest of the summer off.

00:20:30.380 And I'll see you that what the second Monday in or the first Monday in October, ma'am.

00:20:36.040 Right, exactly. So let's hope they're not being that cynical. But of course, we know that these

00:20:44.580 justices are under tremendous pressure. Personally, their families are. We see this with Justice

00:20:49.720 Leto and Justice Thomas. I don't really see either one of them capitulating to this political

00:20:57.940 pressure. But back to your point, aside from that, I don't think, and I've asked other attorneys,

00:21:05.100 there's anything comparable to if the Supreme Court comes back and says that the DOJ wrongfully

00:21:12.860 prosecuted hundreds of Americans for political purposes by intentionally misinterpreting

00:21:20.240 a statute, a corporate fraud statute, turning that into lifelong felons, throwing that in prison for

00:21:29.380 years, including denying the release, holding them under pretrial detention on 1512C alone, C2 alone.

00:21:37.940 This is historic. This would be a historic black eye, not just for the DOJ, but the 18 federal

00:21:47.740 judges in Washington, district and circuit court judges, who allowed that charge to proceed

00:21:55.380 against defendants in their courtroom. That cannot go unpunished. I know we've talked about

00:22:02.240 that. Are you going to be in D.C. Wednesday? You're going to stay in Florida for the hearing

00:22:10.000 tomorrow? Are you going to be in D.C. on Wednesday for the Supreme Court? Unfortunately, I don't have

00:22:19.640 wings and I don't have my own plane, so I could be able to go to D.C. in time. But there's really

00:22:27.880 no need because it's better to sort of cover it as, you know, the docket, whatever the docket

00:22:35.720 hits. So I will not be in D.C., but I will be watching Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

00:22:42.340 Okay. Julie Kelly's going with me. Julie, I want all your social media. I just wanted to make

00:22:45.980 sure, I was just cross-checking to make sure you weren't taking off for Wimbledon on holiday

00:22:50.460 while the world hangs on these Supreme Court decisions. But go ahead. What's your social

00:22:56.380 media?

00:22:56.860 Well, I am going to Wimbledon, so let's hope there's nothing happening that week. And Steve,

00:23:03.040 I'll talk to you tomorrow after this hearing should also be explosive. And it will relate

00:23:10.040 to the shenanigans of the D.C. federal court when they did to enable this prosecution. So

00:23:16.000 we'll chat tomorrow also. To classify with Julie Kelly is my substack, Julie underscore

00:23:20.560 Kelly Q on X Twitter, also Real Player Investigation.

00:23:26.200 Julie Kelly, thank you very much, ma'am. Appreciate you.

00:23:30.400 I think what I'm going to do, I'm going to have Bossy's going to be here at 530. I'm going

00:23:34.280 to hold. I want to play the Caroline Levitt clip again when he's here. So I tell you what,

00:23:40.940 do I have time to play it? Let me have time. Is it ready to go? Let's play Caroline Levitt

00:23:45.840 again. I got to get into the CNN thing. Let's play it so the audience, afternoon audience

00:23:49.460 can hear it. Let's go and play.

00:23:51.580 Joining me now is Caroline Levitt. She is Trump campaign national press secretary. Caroline,

00:23:55.940 thanks very much for being here on the show. We played that to remind everyone that that was

00:24:02.320 some of what they saw on the debate stage in 2020. Of course, President Trump went on to lose that

00:24:07.360 election to Joe Biden. Can you tell us what Donald Trump is going to do differently on the debate stage

00:24:12.240 this time? Sure. Well, President Trump is well prepared ahead of Thursday's debates. Unlike Joe

00:24:18.720 Biden, he doesn't have to hide away and have his advisors tell him what to say. President Trump

00:24:23.080 knows what he wants to say, and he's going to relay his vision to the American people to make this

00:24:28.180 country strong, safe, secure, and wealthy again. He's been doing that across this great nation

00:24:33.060 to all corners of this country. That's why he was in Detroit, Michigan last week. He was in

00:24:37.400 Philadelphia for a big rally on Saturday night, and that's why President Trump is knowingly going

00:24:42.140 into a hostile environment on this very network on CNN with debate moderators who have made their

00:24:47.300 opinions about him very well known over the past eight years and their biased coverage of him. So

00:24:51.180 President Trump is willing to bring his message to every corner of this country, to voters, to ensure

00:24:57.100 that he wins this election in November. He looks forward to doing that, and I know the American

00:25:01.640 public look forward to hearing from him. So I'll just say my colleagues, Jake Tapper and Dan Abash,

00:25:07.140 have acquitted themselves as professionals as they have covered campaigns and interviewed

00:25:11.680 candidates from all sides of the aisle. I'll also say that if you talk to analysts of debates

00:25:17.760 previous, that if you're attacking the moderators, you're usually losing. So I really want to focus in

00:25:23.000 on what these two men are going to do and say when they stand on the stage. Now, we have a little bit

00:25:30.140 of what Donald Trump, your boss, has said in trying to set expectations for this debate. I want to play

00:25:35.920 some of a series of his comments, and then we'll talk about it. Watch.

00:25:39.620 Maybe I'm better off losing the debate. I'll make sure he says I'll lose the debate on purpose. Maybe

00:25:44.000 I'll do something like that. I assume he's going to be somebody that will be a worthy debater.

00:25:49.300 Should I be tough and nasty and just say you're the worst president in history, or should I be nice

00:25:55.900 and calm and let him speak? So he's basically saying there, well, will I let Joe Biden win?

00:26:05.120 It does seem as though many Republicans have set the bar very low in terms of arguing that Joe Biden

00:26:10.720 is basically senile. Now you have people like Doug Burgum coming out and saying, well, President Biden's

00:26:16.720 very accomplished, trying to set expectations in a different place. What do you expect from Joe Biden?

00:26:22.300 Well, first of all, it's to take someone five minutes to Google Jake Tapper, Donald Trump to

00:26:28.900 see that Jake Tapper has consistently- Ma'am, we're going to stop this interview if you're

00:26:31.760 going to keep attacking my colleagues. Ma'am, I'm going to stop this interview if you continue to

00:26:36.440 attack my colleagues. I would like to talk about Joe Biden and Donald Trump, who you work for.

00:26:41.560 Yes. If you are here to speak on his behalf, I'm willing to have this conversation.

00:26:46.280 I am stating facts that your colleagues have stated in the past.

00:26:49.240 I'm sorry, guys. We're going to come back out to the panel. Caroline, thank you very much for

00:26:53.140 your time. You are welcome to come back at any point. She is welcome to come back and speak

00:26:58.260 about Donald Trump and Donald Trump. I'm joined now by deputy campaign manager from 2016. He's got

00:27:06.040 a win on his belt in the ring for it. Right there, no respect for the national press secretary for

00:27:15.320 President Trump. We've got a minute, and then we're going to hold you. What are your thoughts?

00:27:19.140 It was outrageous. CNN has just lost all perspective. We've known that since 2015.

00:27:26.340 They have been broken. They have never been able to fix themselves. And so when somebody

00:27:30.680 comes on their air-

00:27:31.320 Remember, Zuckerberg would come over and try to have these- 0.81

00:27:33.540 It's just ridiculous. But you have the press secretary coming on stating facts,

00:27:38.460 and you cannot say a word about somebody. I wish CNN would have me on. I wish they would

00:27:43.660 have you on. They will not have anybody who doesn't speak exactly their politically correct

00:27:50.800 speak on their air. And that is dangerous for America.

00:27:53.860 Okay. I'm going to ask you what a solution is because President Trump has somehow made a

00:27:58.580 decision to save CNN by having this debate. They're sinking. President Trump, don't throw

00:28:04.120 him a lifesaver. Throw him an anchor. Throw him an anvil. Short commercial break. Dave Bossie,

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00:29:42.080 Election. Polling shows that more than one in three Americans believe Joe Biden was not legitimately

00:29:48.920 elected. It's hardly a surprise then that trust in the federal government is at historic lows.

00:29:56.140 Federal agencies have been turned against the very people they're supposed to serve. The Department

00:29:59.680 of Justice putting out a memorandum saying, oh, we might want to go investigate parents showing up

00:30:04.460 at school board meetings. Mr. Friend, you ever been to a school board meeting? Yes, I have. FBI ever sent

00:30:10.140 you. You were taking down information regarding people's license plates. That's correct. You got

00:30:20.900 the field office in Richmond, Virginia putting out a memo saying if you're a pro-life Catholic,

00:30:26.440 you're a potential extremist. We've seen whistleblowers come forward and tell us about

00:30:30.860 these kind of things and then they get retaliated against. We've seen the whole censorship effort

00:30:36.220 where big government, big tech, big academia work against conservatives. So it has most certainly

00:30:41.600 been weaponized against we the people. The best example, though, of course, is what they've done to

00:30:46.160 President Trump. Today, an indictment was unsealed. Charging Donald J. Trump 34 felony counts

00:30:53.180 of falsifying business records in the first degree. 41 felony counts. Today, we are filing a lawsuit

00:31:01.940 against Donald Trump. And you want to talk about the double standard. All right, let's take

00:31:06.360 classified documents. That was one of the first ones that the media went in a tizzy over.

00:31:12.080 The Democrats went in a tizzy. They're like, we got him. We got him. And then they discovered,

00:31:16.980 wait a second, Joe Biden has classified documents. Not one, not two, everywhere. He's got them in his

00:31:22.100 garage. He's got them by his old Corvette. He practically stuffs them in his underwear.

00:31:25.760 You know, he sent a lot of them to Chinatown. He had them at Penn. They were all over the place. 0.89

00:31:30.100 It was over 50 years. He took them when he was a senator. He took them all the time.

00:31:34.680 But they let him go scot-free. President Joe Biden willfully retained classified information.

00:31:40.400 But the president will not face criminal charges. They concluded it would be difficult to get a

00:31:45.660 jury to convict a, quote, sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory, unquote.

00:31:51.040 When that report came out, the first thing I said is Xi Jinping, Kim Jong-un, Maduro. You go

00:31:58.220 through the list of dictators, Putin. All of these guys are reading that report as well and making

00:32:03.820 plans and sizing up America based on what the Department of Justice said about Biden, about him

00:32:09.800 being a feeble old man with a poor memory. So call me old-fashioned, but if you're not competent 0.77

00:32:15.600 mentally enough to be held responsible for your crimes, then maybe you shouldn't have the nuclear

00:32:21.740 codes. Okay, so this is a new film that you've made. You and I have made, what, 10 or 12 films

00:32:28.960 together? A lot. You've made this film. It's going to come out. I want to get into it because

00:32:35.080 it's quite amazing. But I got to go back to the CNN thing. And you've done, people should

00:32:39.820 know, you've done a lot of debates, negotiations for the president, correct?

00:32:45.820 With you in 2016 and then with the leadership of the campaign in 2020.

00:32:50.960 We had some good times.

00:32:51.940 We did. You know what? We, but we did it the right way.

00:32:54.460 Is it Ferenkoff?

00:32:55.480 Yeah, Frank Ferenkoff. I mean, come on.

00:32:57.100 What a dirtbag. What a dirtbag. 0.99

00:32:58.080 By the way, what a dirtbag. 0.99

00:32:59.200 On my way over here. 1.00

00:32:59.940 Look at you right now and lie to you.

00:33:01.120 And lie to you. On my way over here.

00:33:03.080 Trump's a big fan of him.

00:33:04.200 Trump's a big fan of him. Trump is a huge fan of Ferenkoff.

00:33:07.520 On my way over here, Frank Ferenkoff announced that they have canceled their four debates

00:33:12.440 for the year.

00:33:13.820 Unbelievable. Are you kidding me?

00:33:15.320 Republicans. The Commission on Presidential Debates is dead. We killed it from two years

00:33:20.740 ago when we did that launch.

00:33:22.220 That has been a very high priority of President Trump's, has it not?

00:33:25.360 But it has been since 2016. They rigged the system against us, against Hillary Clinton.

00:33:31.220 They rigged it again in 2020. Frank Ferenkoff, whether it was the modulation of the microphones,

00:33:37.580 right, of the 2016, the first debate in Hofstra.

00:33:40.860 Don't even get me started. How we have no mics. They have total control of the mics in a

00:33:45.220 booth. And remember how they screwed with us in the first one?

00:33:47.920 Absolutely.

00:33:49.760 And plus Cuban. 0.97

00:33:51.040 Mark Cuban.

00:33:52.240 That was amazing.

00:33:53.680 Matt Drudge came. I mean, it was crazy. It was crazy.

00:33:57.040 Different level.

00:33:57.700 Different level.

00:33:58.080 But I got to tell you, these guys, the same in 2020. Here's President Trump for you. In 2020,

00:34:04.240 we rolled into the first debate, which I think was in Miami. And the president sees...

00:34:10.380 COVID debate.

00:34:10.980 Yeah. And we see the... And Frank Ferenkoff and his crew's there. President Trump sees

00:34:16.880 the same technical engineer who was in charge of the microphones from 2016. And he said,

00:34:23.660 Steve, how did I never tell you this story? He sees the guy and he goes, and he points

00:34:27.440 to him and he says, you, you screwed with my microphone in 2016. And I thought the guy

00:34:33.880 was going to wet himself. It was the greatest. I can't believe I've never shared that story

00:34:39.220 with you before.

00:34:39.700 Remember at 16, the guy messed with his mic. So how do we... Okay. So here's the underlying

00:34:44.260 theme of everything you talked about. 1620, the cancellation of the commission dead. Because

00:34:50.480 Trump's a headliner. Trump plays the big rooms. Okay. Joe Biden is a lounge act. Okay.

00:34:56.560 He's a lounge act. He can't draw. You know that. So we have a headliner. As you know,

00:35:02.100 when Frank Sinatra walks in, the headliner gets what he wants. Right? Stars get what

00:35:07.880 they want. For sure. For sure. He doesn't... How do we, even in this situation of the controlled

00:35:13.920 mic, with the simple fact of what happened today, CNN as an institution, center... Their

00:35:19.800 organizing principle is anti-Trump. They hate him. And they despise him and they will do

00:35:25.940 whatever they can on Thursday to harm him. And whether it is Jake Tapper or whoever else

00:35:31.880 is... Dana Bash... Dana. And the producers. Mostly the producers behind the scenes. They

00:35:37.100 will try to harm him. They will do something. I can't imagine that they don't. This will

00:35:42.620 not be a fair debate. This is three on one. And guess what? It's a thousand on one. Well,

00:35:48.220 yeah. But Donald Trump is going to mop him. He's going to mop him because he is ready.

00:35:53.560 He's been waiting for four years for this. And so, you know...

00:35:57.840 Okay, but hang on a second. Hang on a second. Your theory of the case is he's going to mop

00:36:03.760 him. I can see that. In fact, I believe that. So then we get a replacement. Here's what I

00:36:08.680 would like. Here's what I think the campaign ought to do immediately. Because it's all unseen

00:36:14.540 CNN, MSNBC, New York Times all day long. They should say, look, we're not here for a practice

00:36:21.500 game. This is not an August NFL exhibition game. We are here to debate the Democratic Party's

00:36:29.080 nominee for president of the United States. If that is Newsom, Whitmer, Oprah Winfrey, Michelle

00:36:34.820 Obama, or hold it, Kamala Harris or Biden, we don't care. President Trump is totally indifferent.

00:36:40.920 He is. But he's not here for a practice. He's not here for a practice round. If he mobs

00:36:46.380 the floor, they immediately move to remove Biden. Okay. You're not buying that. Well, see,

00:36:51.680 how... But being the technicians that we are, it's very difficult at this point in time when

00:36:57.800 the delegates have been selected. When those delegates are either Biden's or Harris's.

00:37:02.780 You're a Republican. Let's play by the rules. No, no, no. It's the Democratic Party.

00:37:06.680 They're going to lose the presidency. Don't change any rule they have to change.

00:37:10.020 No, no. I don't disagree with you. But who that benefits is Kamala Harris. Because those 1.00

00:37:15.860 people, she has spent four years organizing. She has spent four years running it.

00:37:20.920 Are you saying that Kamala Harris wouldn't be a worthy opponent of our beloved president? 0.93

00:37:27.480 She is the one person who has a lower approval rating than Joe Biden.

00:37:31.420 Not just that. They had her this morning on Morning Joe. They asked her a straightforward

00:37:34.200 question. She gives another word salad.

00:37:36.360 You can't even Mika. Morning Mika making the face, right? It's harder to follow than Joe.

00:37:42.700 It is. I mean, so no, I don't see that happening only because... Now, if you say to the vice

00:37:49.740 president, we're going to bring somebody in to replace Joe. And oh, by the way, it's Gavin

00:37:53.720 Newsom. You got to get off the ticket too, because you're from California. So she goes from...

00:37:57.880 She's never given it up without a fight. Okay.

00:38:00.320 This is a fight to the death for her. Because she's immaterial after that.

00:38:04.440 So you did deliver... Bossy delivered a big scalp. 1.00

00:38:08.080 The debate committee. Bossy told me... Bossy, you told me before 16. Because you've had a

00:38:13.700 hard-on for this debate commission for a while. Oh, for sure. A long time.

00:38:16.100 Because it's been rigged for so long. We learned it in 16.

00:38:18.900 16, but the Republicans were always just kind of went along and...

00:38:22.060 Go along to get along. Right.

00:38:23.160 So you're telling me, Ferenkopf just called, the debate commission has canceled all four

00:38:28.680 debates? Just now. Literally as I was walking in the door 10 minutes ago. It's a fantastic

00:38:32.880 scalp. It's historic. What do you mean? It's huge. These are very... Look, these are very small

00:38:36.800 things. And Ferenkopf hates Trump. Hates Trump. Hates Trump. The entire group.

00:38:40.160 Hold it. They had the Cuban... Remember, they lied to us on everything. They lied to us on Cuban, 0.99

00:38:46.260 right, sitting in the president's sight line. Remember, we brought the women there. 1.00

00:38:50.360 That was one of the greatest operations we've ever done. I told Frank Ferenkopf and the

00:38:56.400 other guy, the other stooge, I said, hey, we're going to put these women in the family 1.00

00:39:01.660 seats. Remember? We're going to put them in the family seats. 0.94

00:39:04.920 VIP seats. He goes, no, it's only... He says, you can't do that, Bossy. It's only family.

00:39:09.940 And I go, is Claire McCaskill... Claire McCaskill, her big butt is sitting down there right in 1.00

00:39:15.460 the front. We're putting Paula Jones in there and Juanita Broderick. 0.96

00:39:18.760 And she's going to grab on things. You raped me. 1.00

00:39:21.660 Oh, my God. And they went haywire. They said, we're going to stop you from doing it. I said, 1.00

00:39:27.240 well, the president's going to personal... Mr. Trump is personally going to walk them up

00:39:30.860 to the stage. What are you going to do? We have the Secret Service. And they literally

00:39:34.900 went haywire. We didn't end up doing it, but it got in their heads.

00:39:37.880 The only reason we didn't end up doing it, President Trump made the decision. We went to

00:39:41.720 President Trump. It's 60 seconds before national global TV. And we said, hey, look, we want

00:39:47.820 to run something by you. We need your input. Mr. President, we need your input. We got

00:39:54.540 58 seconds. And we got... And he just kind of says, put the family there, put them in the

00:39:58.880 front row. But remember, Bill Clinton kept going the side out a lot. 0.91

00:40:02.220 Oh, for sure. That's the most famous photograph from that debate is Bill Clinton looking at

00:40:07.120 the women's side-eyed. I just want to say, tell your listeners, the executive director of

00:40:12.040 the Commission on Presidential Debate's salary in 2022, okay, for somebody who hasn't put on a

00:40:18.300 debate and will not put on a debate, is $568,000. Stop. Ferenkopf gets that much money?

00:40:24.800 No, that's his chief of staff gets that much money. They don't do anything. They don't do

00:40:28.440 anything. They produce four debates every four years. It's the best money you could ever have.

00:40:34.480 Does the U.S. government... How's that money... Where's the money come from?

00:40:36.420 It's quasi. It's one of these public-private partnerships. Yeah, they take money from all

00:40:40.140 the big corporations. Corporations. It's incredible. Incredible. Dave Bossie, that is a big scalp.

00:40:46.620 It is. Look, we got two in the last couple of years. One is the debate commission and the

00:40:51.740 other is Liz Cheney. Remember, we ran the operation to drive her out of the party, which then made

00:40:58.000 Marriott Hageman... Harriet Hageman. Harriet the nominee. It was an unbelievable... It was the

00:41:05.840 only real good thing the RNC's done in the last few years. And Stefanik take over as conference

00:41:10.320 chair? Oh, yeah. No, it's been a global change since that. That was one we had. There were

00:41:15.280 a couple of bank shots in there. That's okay. You know what? We had a couple of bank shots.

00:41:18.840 We like to win. We like to win. That debt commission... I mean, the Presidential Debate

00:41:23.920 Commission, that's a big one. It is. And it's permanent. Look, I don't know how four years from

00:41:28.720 now anybody tries to resurrect them. That's the beauty. Now we will have a true operation that

00:41:35.280 the free market will be able to determine who gets to the base. Okay. I'm just saying

00:41:38.940 vis-a-vis CNN. Trump's a headliner. He plays the big rooms. He's saving... First off, and

00:41:45.900 President Trump thinks this thing through in five-dimension chess, which often you and I

00:41:50.940 don't. Yes. He's saving CNN. They're dying. I know. They have nothing going on, right?

00:41:57.800 They're out of business, essentially. He's given them the biggest TV show in world history.

00:42:02.600 We'll be... This will be the biggest... If he doesn't get elected in 16, arguably,

00:42:06.320 they're not even around today. Oh, big time. Right? Yes, yes, yes. That's the only reason

00:42:10.380 they survived for four years. Ask the Washington Post's 50% drop in readership. Ask the reporters

00:42:14.440 getting laid off over there how much they love Trump, right? They have a 50% drop-off. I want

00:42:19.700 to hold you through the next break real quickly. The film is magnificent. When are people going

00:42:24.120 to be able to see it? So we are launching our Trump versus Biden film at the convention

00:42:32.860 on June 17th. So we will be having a lot to say about it. We're going to tease some folks

00:42:38.960 here with a little snippet of it here in a minute. And... No, it plays the cold open coming

00:42:43.440 in. Okay. We just played it. Didn't we just play the cold open? Yeah. We played it. Okay,

00:42:48.020 good. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So... Well, you were busy on your phone. See, this is what happens

00:42:51.180 when you're a big shot. In the war room, the way it works. The way it works. I learned

00:42:53.820 from you. No, no. The way it works. The schmendricks pay attention. The big shots get on their phone

00:42:58.920 and talk to their agent. Hang on for a second. So the film is... Hold on, hold on, hold it.

00:43:05.340 Stop. We're going to go to break. Good. Is it random? There's no coincidences, as you

00:43:09.800 know, in the war room. Right. You're premiering the film at the convention. The convention

00:43:15.540 you're ahead of. Hold it. Hold it. We're having a huge premiere. We're going to do it

00:43:20.780 main stage. Hold it. You are the chairman. Co-chairman of the convention. You're co-chairman

00:43:25.960 of the convention. Yes, sir. You know what? It is... Is Ryan your other co-chairman? That

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00:48:03.520 tomorrow. Dave Bossie, the film is Trump's Rescue Mission. Saving America. Trump's Rescue Mission,

00:48:10.220 Saving America. And that's what everybody who's listening to this show is about. Is President

00:48:15.480 Trump in this film? He is the star of the show. This is the greatest cast I've ever put together,

00:48:22.720 including all the great films that we've made together with all the great cast. This thing has got

00:48:27.620 everybody in it, from Byron Donalds, Matt Gaetz, Tom Holman, Ronnie Jackson, Jim Jordan,

00:48:32.420 Keith Kellogg, Larry Kudlow, Carrie Lake, Jeff Landry, Anna Polina Luna, Cash Patel,

00:48:39.460 Vivek Ramaswamy's in it, Russ Vogt. How long is this film? It's an hour and 11 minutes long.

00:48:46.020 And this is right now, it's going to premiere at the convention? It is. And if you are coming to

00:48:51.020 Milwaukee, and you want to go to this movie premiere, we're going to have an incredible

00:48:57.780 VIP list of attendees, including the cast. This is going to be showtime? And what day

00:49:03.740 is this going to show? It's going to be on Wednesday afternoon. On Wednesday afternoon?

00:49:06.360 So on Wednesday afternoon, before the convention starts. When can the Warren Posse get tickets?

00:49:10.340 You know what? They just have to call. You know what? Cam, we'll figure out a way for you guys to...

00:49:15.020 Fine. And give us a code and everything like that. We'll give you a code. We're going to get the

00:49:20.060 Warren Posse. The website's going to be up around 1 July? It'll be out just after the 4th of July.

00:49:25.200 Are you still editing this film? Dave and I have gone to a premiere before. What do you mean?

00:49:29.580 The thing has got... It's dripping. It's still wet. It's still wet. You know what? That's the best way,

00:49:35.880 because you want the film to be as fresh and current as possible, and that's what this is. Every day,

00:49:41.420 Joe Biden does something screwed up that needs to be in the film, or something that Donald Trump does

00:49:47.960 that needs to be in the film that people need to know about. This is a war film. This is our war

00:49:53.220 film for this year. We have to save America, and I hope that this film's a little bit to educate

00:49:57.820 the American people about it. Should he go back to CNN and say, hey, you disrespected me today? You

00:50:02.540 disrespected me? You know what? I think he should definitely have some strong, strong language for

00:50:07.720 them, because he needs to make sure they understand that he may not come, because you can't treat him

00:50:13.380 this way. You can't... You just can't kick off, you know, our press secretary...

00:50:18.660 The Monday... The starting show of the week on CNN. They dump her. They dump her. 1.00

00:50:24.480 By the way, she didn't even do anything. It's not like having one of us on.

00:50:28.080 She's very polite. She was nice.

00:50:29.440 She was about to throw some receipts up on Jake Tapper, which everybody knows he hates Trump,

00:50:34.100 right? She didn't even get to him. She goes, I want to have you... 0.97

00:50:36.200 It's a no-brainer. It's a no-brainer. So look, what they're going to do is take a beating all week,

00:50:40.360 and they need to. They need to have people like us on in some of these...

00:50:44.420 The control room can't control Trump's mic. Bottom line. Do you agree with that?

00:50:48.140 I do agree with that.

00:50:49.080 Mike Lindell. I've got Gableman in the second hour. We'll go through all the Russ Votes stuff then.

00:50:55.320 He's addressing this Wall Street Journal editorial. We had pay a letter on today that had an op-ed piece

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00:51:05.460 they had one that said, Gableman doesn't know what he's doing, incompetent, spent too much money,

00:51:09.680 and robbing Vos the Greatest. But we do all that at six. Right now, give me a deal for the

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Bannon's War Room - June 24, 2024

Episode 3708： Chaos In the Courtroom In Florida; Trump's Rescue Mission

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