Episode 3708： Chaos In the Courtroom In Florida; Trump's Rescue Mission
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Summary
Special counsel for the Russia investigation, Jack Smith, is in the courtroom today, and the question of whether the existing appropriation for the independent counsel's office is legal under the Constitution is the subject of today's hearing. And CNN's Julie Kelly is there to break it all down.
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in the courtroom for this hearing. What's been happening so far?
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That's right. That's right. Jack Smith is in the courtroom. He was not here on Friday,
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but he is here today. And they're arguing this morning over a rather esoteric, legalistic,
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highly technical question that, by the way, has already been litigated in the Hunter Biden case,
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which is the question of whether the existing appropriation for the special counsel's office
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is legal under the Constitution, in part because it dates back to the old Independent Counsel Act,
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which expired in 1999. So Donald Trump's lawyers are trying to argue that it's not legal and
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therefore this entire case should be thrown out. It flows from their argument on Friday where they
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argued that the special counsel's office was illegal under the Appropriations Clause, a different part
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of the Constitution. The big picture here is that many legal experts say these are not the kind of
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things that should be burning a day and a half of hearing time before a trial judge. These are
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appellate court issues, legal issues, not fact issues. But nonetheless, Judge Aileen Cannon has
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chosen to have a hearing on nearly every disputed matter. And that's what they're talking about
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today. This question of whether the technical language of the law in the Independent Counsel statute
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applies here and whether the case should be thrown out on those grounds. It's a real long shot.
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Again, Hunter Biden's lawyers tried it and failed, but we don't know exactly what Judge
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Cannon's going to do here. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies
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because we're going medieval on these people. Here's the time I got a free shot at all these
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networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like
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hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to
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stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,
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this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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It's Monday, 24 June, year of our Lord, 2024. We have a lot of breaking news to go through,
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including about this debate, quote unquote, so-called debate. We're going to get to that
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momentarily. But Julie Kelly joins us now by phone from Miami. She was in the courtroom today.
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Julie, CNN, massive headline lead story is that Judge Cannon had a full beatdown on Jack Smith
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today, said Reading the Riot Act, dressed him down as their headline, dressed him down,
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which is pretty hard for CNN to say. That very dismissive cold open, it started off as like,
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this is just another Trump delay tactic. But the federal judge did not take it like that, ma'am?
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No. So, yes, I just left the courtroom. She had two separate hearings today. This morning was a
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continuation of the motion to dismiss based on the unlawful appointment of Jack Smith that took
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all day Friday and then third of the morning. And then this afternoon was debate over Jack Smith's
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proposed gag order against the former president to ban him from making public, critical statements
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about law enforcement agents involved in this case and, of course, specifically the armed
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unprecedented raid of Mar-a-Lago. Yes, Judge Cannon, I will say this morning, what I saw is what I've seen
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a lot of Judge Cannon, and that is really pressing both sides to make their arguments. As you played in
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the cold open, it is a very leading technical debate as to the congressional authority that permits
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Jack Smith's appointment, the constitutional separation of powers issues. I will argue with
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whoever was saying that this was an issue for the appellate court. Well, of course it's not. This is a
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motion presented to the trial judge, Judge Cannon, if you are going to choose every right to hear both
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sides of this motion. But I would say this is Congress's responsibility, Steve. Yet another example
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of Congress not doing their job dropping the ball on whether it's a statutory language in the special
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counsel, alleged statute, independent counsel. They kept going back and forth on that. These Reno
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regulations that were put in place after the independent, the original independent counsel statute
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expired. And then, of course, appropriation. And what Judge Cannon really was drilling down on today,
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and this is where she confronted James Pierce, who is one of Jack Smith's prosecutors. She kept asking
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where the appropriation source is, what congressional authority allows, what the DOJ says and Judge Cannon
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said, this is a permanent, indefinite, limitless supply of public money to the special counsel without any
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oversight by Congress. And so that was really, I think, CNN's headline. That's really where she was
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grilling Jack Smith's team as to the congressional authority, the separation of powers issue, that they
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just have this nonstop, they get up our tax money going to Jack Smith, no oversight, no accountability.
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And I think that that might be an issue, aside from the congressional or constitutional authority of his
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appointment. Really, the funding source, and who says that the special counsel, unaccountable special
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counsel, can also have access to an unlimited amount of public money, because there's really no other
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comparable appointment or office that has that.
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So, Julie, yeah. Julie, she kept asking questions. I just want to know what the answers were. She kept
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asking who's supervising Jack Smith, who's overseeing this, the kind of conversations he's having with
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Maine Justice. And also, is there a budget, with spending, appropriations, who back in the House?
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Did Jack Smith or his team answer any of these questions, or did they just simply blow them off?
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It's mostly a blow-off, which the DOJ's position now is that the special counsel is an inferior officer
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of the Department of Justice, which allows for the attorney general as the principal officer,
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superior officer, to appoint inferior officers. But then, of course, that opens up a lot of
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the whole bag of worms. Well, then, who is overseeing this inferior officer? Well, it's the
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attorney general. And so, Cannon again brought this up. Is the attorney general overseeing the special
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counsel? Well, yes, in a way, but he's still independent. It's not a day-to-day oversight.
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Which, of course, flies in the face of how Merrick Garland presented Jack Smith when he was appointed
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in November of 2022. And his continued... The Jack said it's completely independent because they
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want to demonstrate... They want to demonstrate no conflict between the Biden-Garland DOJ and what
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Let's pivot now to the gag order. Did we make any progress in the gag order? Of course, as you know,
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the war room has... We have some skin in this game. So how did it go in the gag order?
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Yes. Yes, your name did come up, albeit by defense attorney Todd Blanche, who was one of Trump's
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attorneys. And so after the whole kerfuffle of May 21st, it's a little weird to sit there
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hearing them talk about May 21st and that week because, of course, I do know Steve. I was the
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first one to post the motion and the FBI operations plan. And then that prompted Donald Trump and
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others to weigh in and say how the DOJ-FBI authorized the use of lethal force in Mar-a-Lago, which
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is true. At any rate, in sort of a safe-base measure, Jack Smith came to the court a few days
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later, Friday the 24th of May, seeking this gag order saying that Donald Trump was lying, making
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false inflammatory remarks about the elements of the FBI Mar-a-Lago raid, that these posed an imminent
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and foreseeable threat to the law enforcement agents involved in the case, that Donald Trump has a
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history of history of doing this, and that Judge Cannon, not just a gag order like we saw in Washington
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or we saw in New York, but to set specific conditions to his bail that would prevent him from making
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public criminal, a public critical statement about law enforcement agents in the case. And he was not really
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by DOJ's argument, as you can imagine, because they could not demonstrate a clear nexus between
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Trump's true social posts and the email saying how Joe Biden's DOJ was locked and loaded, ready to take
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out him and his family, and any threats that have been made to any law enforcement officials in this
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case, because as Judge Cannon said, all of the names of law enforcement agents have been redacted
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from all the materials that have been posted. So how can you threaten an FBI agent involved in
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the Mar-a-Lago raid when the name is not public? So that was really her back and forth with David
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Harbaugh, who is one of the other prosecutors, who almost got himself thrown out of the courtroom,
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by the way, to the scene. That was interesting. How did that happen? How did that happen?
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So David Harbaugh, you'll recall, and I reported this from the last hearing, Judge Cannon had to
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tell him to calm down, because he was having a mini temper tantrum about how the proceedings were
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going. He was pounding on the podium, he was like clapping his hands in anger, so he had to tell him to
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calm down. Well, today David Harbaugh comes up, and he starts addressing Judge Cannon like she is a
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child. It was so obvious from the beginning. They all have this condescending tone, Jay Barrett and
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David Harbaugh, but this was really amplified today. He was really intentionally trying to get under her
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skin. So he's up top, he's like, well, as I just said, Judge Cannon, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And he was really trying to goad her into what she did finally say, which is, Mr. Harbaugh,
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I'm going to ask you, I don't like your tone. I expect a quorum in my courthouse at all times.
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If you cannot act appropriately, one of your colleagues can take up this motion.
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So he backed off a little bit, and then at the end of their initial exchange, he said,
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I want to apologize. I did not mean to act unprofessionally. Yes, he did. This is what
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we get to pay for. These bullies, these thugs going in saying that Donald Trump's troops
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pose a threat to law enforcement while demeaning a federal judge sitting here presiding over this
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case. The hypocrisy is just off the chart. Judge Cannon's hung tough on this. Where do we go next
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on this, Julie Kelly, on this case? So my guess is that she is going to say that the motion for
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conditions of release of the GAB order really is premature, that the DOJ has not demonstrated any
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nexus between Donald Trump's posts for his comments and legitimate threats to law enforcement.
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And she, I believe, will then say, we will address this pre-trial, how we make sure that law
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enforcement agents who are witnesses in the trial receive protection, et cetera.
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Tomorrow, though, Steve, there's another hearing. There's a sealed hearing for two motions.
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One is related to D.C. former Chief Judge Carol Howell, our favorite judge, who took the extraordinary
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step in 2023 of piercing attorney-client privilege between Donald Trump and Evan Corcoran, forcing
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Evan Corcoran to turn over all of his records and communications related to the documents
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investigation to Jad Smith. So Donald Trump's team has filed a motion to suppress that evidence.
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So that will be heard at a sealed hearing first, and then a public hearing tomorrow afternoon.
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After that part of the hearing, we will also hear another defense motion to suppress evidence
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from the Mar-a-Lago raid. And see, that is when the defense will sort of get into the details
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as to how the Mar-a-Lago raid was conducted, how it violated the broad term of the search warrant,
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how the warrant application itself was deceitful, that they misled Judge Bruce Reinhardt, which
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probably was easy to do, and did not give Judge Reinhardt all of the information, how the
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investigation had proceeded from that from the very beginning. So another big hearing
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tomorrow afternoon. I will be there covering it as well.
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Julie Kelly, we have a presidential debate on Thursday night. Well, let me say this. I'll talk
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about this segment supposed to be about them. We get to in a second. They should not have a
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presidential debate. First off, we don't know if Joe Biden's even going to be the nominee. Number
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one, that should be very clear. Number two, these rules, as shown today, CNN has no respect for the
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Trump campaign, for President Trump, for MAGA, for the American people, and certainly not for the
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institution of a fair debate of what they did to the press secretary today. But I'll get into that
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in just a moment. This debate is on, is Thursday night. You have Wednesday, I thought, just for the
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opinions, have they added Thursday and Friday? And where, ma'am, is Fisher? And where is immunity
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in between Wednesday, Thursday, Friday? Right. So the Supreme Court announced today that they will be
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publishing opinions on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, because to your point, they've got 18
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opinions still that have not been posted, two among them. The crucial decisions about Fisher,
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the DOJ's abuse of the 1512C to obstruction of an official proceeding statute, post-Enron statute,
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against 350 J-6ers and half of Jack Smith's indictment against Donald Trump in Washington,
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which is related to the event of January 6th. That we're anxiously waiting for and half then.
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And then, of course, the question of presidential immunity, whether a former president has immunity
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from criminal prosecution for his office in office, which also relates to the four counts of
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Jack Smith's J-6 indictment. There is some speculation, Steve, and I hope this is not the case,
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because it will represent such a brazen interference by the court and political proceedings, political
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issue. And that is, some speculate that the court will hold off publishing both Fisher and immunity
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until Friday after the debate. So neither matter can be raised during the debate. And if both issues
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sort of go the way that we're anticipating the consensus, especially Fisher, that Donald Trump
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can use it to his advantage in that debate. So let's hope that the court is not, you know,
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trying to prevent the former president from highlighting this lawfare against him and his supporters
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by withholding publishing those opinions until the debate Thursday night.
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But isn't this how we've allowed the left, you know, that we talked with Mark Paoletta,
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he says a lot of this pressure, a lot of the banging on the court every day, a lot of the protests around
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the houses is to get them to pull in, like particularly on a case like Fisher, right, or like the Chevron
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deference to pull in what they're where they would really want to go, quite frankly, after being
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intimidated. And the Fisher, look, I think Fisher could be one of the most important decisions in the
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history of the court and completely exposed like what happened in Watergate with Sirica and the
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federal bench working with the Justice Department and working with the committees and having behind
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the scenes meetings. Have you ever read Jeff Shepard's two different volumes on this? He went, he's it's
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all archived. He's got everything's got a receipt. There's no speculation in this. And he proves it
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categorically how they took out Nixon. And even Nixon wasn't big enough or tough enough to take him
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on. Isn't that what Fisher isn't? Fisher could be one of the most explosive decisions ever in the
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history of the court. And hey, ma'am, it makes sense to me if I'm those guys, I drop them on. I'm out of
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town. They drop Friday afternoon. And I'm on a plane to somewhere to take the rest of the summer off.
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And I'll see you that what the second Monday in or the first Monday in October, ma'am.
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Right, exactly. So let's hope they're not being that cynical. But of course, we know that these
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justices are under tremendous pressure. Personally, their families are. We see this with Justice
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Leto and Justice Thomas. I don't really see either one of them capitulating to this political
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pressure. But back to your point, aside from that, I don't think, and I've asked other attorneys,
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there's anything comparable to if the Supreme Court comes back and says that the DOJ wrongfully
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prosecuted hundreds of Americans for political purposes by intentionally misinterpreting
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a statute, a corporate fraud statute, turning that into lifelong felons, throwing that in prison for
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years, including denying the release, holding them under pretrial detention on 1512C alone, C2 alone.
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This is historic. This would be a historic black eye, not just for the DOJ, but the 18 federal
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judges in Washington, district and circuit court judges, who allowed that charge to proceed
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against defendants in their courtroom. That cannot go unpunished. I know we've talked about
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that. Are you going to be in D.C. Wednesday? You're going to stay in Florida for the hearing
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tomorrow? Are you going to be in D.C. on Wednesday for the Supreme Court? Unfortunately, I don't have
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wings and I don't have my own plane, so I could be able to go to D.C. in time. But there's really
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no need because it's better to sort of cover it as, you know, the docket, whatever the docket
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hits. So I will not be in D.C., but I will be watching Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
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Okay. Julie Kelly's going with me. Julie, I want all your social media. I just wanted to make
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sure, I was just cross-checking to make sure you weren't taking off for Wimbledon on holiday
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while the world hangs on these Supreme Court decisions. But go ahead. What's your social
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Well, I am going to Wimbledon, so let's hope there's nothing happening that week. And Steve,
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I'll talk to you tomorrow after this hearing should also be explosive. And it will relate
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to the shenanigans of the D.C. federal court when they did to enable this prosecution. So
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we'll chat tomorrow also. To classify with Julie Kelly is my substack, Julie underscore
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Kelly Q on X Twitter, also Real Player Investigation.
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Julie Kelly, thank you very much, ma'am. Appreciate you.
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I think what I'm going to do, I'm going to have Bossy's going to be here at 530. I'm going
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to hold. I want to play the Caroline Levitt clip again when he's here. So I tell you what,
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do I have time to play it? Let me have time. Is it ready to go? Let's play Caroline Levitt
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again. I got to get into the CNN thing. Let's play it so the audience, afternoon audience
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Joining me now is Caroline Levitt. She is Trump campaign national press secretary. Caroline,
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thanks very much for being here on the show. We played that to remind everyone that that was
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some of what they saw on the debate stage in 2020. Of course, President Trump went on to lose that
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election to Joe Biden. Can you tell us what Donald Trump is going to do differently on the debate stage
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this time? Sure. Well, President Trump is well prepared ahead of Thursday's debates. Unlike Joe
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Biden, he doesn't have to hide away and have his advisors tell him what to say. President Trump
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knows what he wants to say, and he's going to relay his vision to the American people to make this
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country strong, safe, secure, and wealthy again. He's been doing that across this great nation
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to all corners of this country. That's why he was in Detroit, Michigan last week. He was in
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Philadelphia for a big rally on Saturday night, and that's why President Trump is knowingly going
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into a hostile environment on this very network on CNN with debate moderators who have made their
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opinions about him very well known over the past eight years and their biased coverage of him. So
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President Trump is willing to bring his message to every corner of this country, to voters, to ensure
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that he wins this election in November. He looks forward to doing that, and I know the American
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public look forward to hearing from him. So I'll just say my colleagues, Jake Tapper and Dan Abash,
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have acquitted themselves as professionals as they have covered campaigns and interviewed
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candidates from all sides of the aisle. I'll also say that if you talk to analysts of debates
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previous, that if you're attacking the moderators, you're usually losing. So I really want to focus in
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on what these two men are going to do and say when they stand on the stage. Now, we have a little bit
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of what Donald Trump, your boss, has said in trying to set expectations for this debate. I want to play
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some of a series of his comments, and then we'll talk about it. Watch.
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Maybe I'm better off losing the debate. I'll make sure he says I'll lose the debate on purpose. Maybe
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I'll do something like that. I assume he's going to be somebody that will be a worthy debater.
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Should I be tough and nasty and just say you're the worst president in history, or should I be nice
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and calm and let him speak? So he's basically saying there, well, will I let Joe Biden win?
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It does seem as though many Republicans have set the bar very low in terms of arguing that Joe Biden
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is basically senile. Now you have people like Doug Burgum coming out and saying, well, President Biden's
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very accomplished, trying to set expectations in a different place. What do you expect from Joe Biden?
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Well, first of all, it's to take someone five minutes to Google Jake Tapper, Donald Trump to
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see that Jake Tapper has consistently- Ma'am, we're going to stop this interview if you're
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going to keep attacking my colleagues. Ma'am, I'm going to stop this interview if you continue to
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attack my colleagues. I would like to talk about Joe Biden and Donald Trump, who you work for.
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Yes. If you are here to speak on his behalf, I'm willing to have this conversation.
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I am stating facts that your colleagues have stated in the past.
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I'm sorry, guys. We're going to come back out to the panel. Caroline, thank you very much for
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your time. You are welcome to come back at any point. She is welcome to come back and speak
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about Donald Trump and Donald Trump. I'm joined now by deputy campaign manager from 2016. He's got
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a win on his belt in the ring for it. Right there, no respect for the national press secretary for
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President Trump. We've got a minute, and then we're going to hold you. What are your thoughts?
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It was outrageous. CNN has just lost all perspective. We've known that since 2015.
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They have been broken. They have never been able to fix themselves. And so when somebody
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Remember, Zuckerberg would come over and try to have these-
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It's just ridiculous. But you have the press secretary coming on stating facts,
00:27:38.460
and you cannot say a word about somebody. I wish CNN would have me on. I wish they would
00:27:43.660
have you on. They will not have anybody who doesn't speak exactly their politically correct
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speak on their air. And that is dangerous for America.
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Okay. I'm going to ask you what a solution is because President Trump has somehow made a
00:27:58.580
decision to save CNN by having this debate. They're sinking. President Trump, don't throw
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the deputy campaign chairman from 2016, is with us next in Word.
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elected. It's hardly a surprise then that trust in the federal government is at historic lows.
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Federal agencies have been turned against the very people they're supposed to serve. The Department
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of Justice putting out a memorandum saying, oh, we might want to go investigate parents showing up
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the field office in Richmond, Virginia putting out a memo saying if you're a pro-life Catholic,
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you're a potential extremist. We've seen whistleblowers come forward and tell us about
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these kind of things and then they get retaliated against. We've seen the whole censorship effort
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where big government, big tech, big academia work against conservatives. So it has most certainly
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been weaponized against we the people. The best example, though, of course, is what they've done to
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President Trump. Today, an indictment was unsealed. Charging Donald J. Trump 34 felony counts
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of falsifying business records in the first degree. 41 felony counts. Today, we are filing a lawsuit
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against Donald Trump. And you want to talk about the double standard. All right, let's take
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classified documents. That was one of the first ones that the media went in a tizzy over.
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The Democrats went in a tizzy. They're like, we got him. We got him. And then they discovered,
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wait a second, Joe Biden has classified documents. Not one, not two, everywhere. He's got them in his
00:31:22.100
garage. He's got them by his old Corvette. He practically stuffs them in his underwear.
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You know, he sent a lot of them to Chinatown. He had them at Penn. They were all over the place.
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It was over 50 years. He took them when he was a senator. He took them all the time.
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But they let him go scot-free. President Joe Biden willfully retained classified information.
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But the president will not face criminal charges. They concluded it would be difficult to get a
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jury to convict a, quote, sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory, unquote.
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When that report came out, the first thing I said is Xi Jinping, Kim Jong-un, Maduro. You go
00:31:58.220
through the list of dictators, Putin. All of these guys are reading that report as well and making
00:32:03.820
plans and sizing up America based on what the Department of Justice said about Biden, about him
00:32:09.800
being a feeble old man with a poor memory. So call me old-fashioned, but if you're not competent
00:32:15.600
mentally enough to be held responsible for your crimes, then maybe you shouldn't have the nuclear
00:32:21.740
codes. Okay, so this is a new film that you've made. You and I have made, what, 10 or 12 films
00:32:28.960
together? A lot. You've made this film. It's going to come out. I want to get into it because
00:32:35.080
it's quite amazing. But I got to go back to the CNN thing. And you've done, people should
00:32:39.820
know, you've done a lot of debates, negotiations for the president, correct?
00:32:45.820
With you in 2016 and then with the leadership of the campaign in 2020.
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We did. You know what? We, but we did it the right way.
00:33:04.200
Trump's a big fan of him. Trump is a huge fan of Ferenkoff.
00:33:07.520
On my way over here, Frank Ferenkoff announced that they have canceled their four debates
00:33:15.320
Republicans. The Commission on Presidential Debates is dead. We killed it from two years
00:33:22.220
That has been a very high priority of President Trump's, has it not?
00:33:25.360
But it has been since 2016. They rigged the system against us, against Hillary Clinton.
00:33:31.220
They rigged it again in 2020. Frank Ferenkoff, whether it was the modulation of the microphones,
00:33:37.580
right, of the 2016, the first debate in Hofstra.
00:33:40.860
Don't even get me started. How we have no mics. They have total control of the mics in a
00:33:45.220
booth. And remember how they screwed with us in the first one?
00:33:53.680
Matt Drudge came. I mean, it was crazy. It was crazy.
00:33:58.080
But I got to tell you, these guys, the same in 2020. Here's President Trump for you. In 2020,
00:34:04.240
we rolled into the first debate, which I think was in Miami. And the president sees...
00:34:10.980
Yeah. And we see the... And Frank Ferenkoff and his crew's there. President Trump sees
00:34:16.880
the same technical engineer who was in charge of the microphones from 2016. And he said,
00:34:23.660
Steve, how did I never tell you this story? He sees the guy and he goes, and he points
00:34:27.440
to him and he says, you, you screwed with my microphone in 2016. And I thought the guy
00:34:33.880
was going to wet himself. It was the greatest. I can't believe I've never shared that story
00:34:39.700
Remember at 16, the guy messed with his mic. So how do we... Okay. So here's the underlying
00:34:44.260
theme of everything you talked about. 1620, the cancellation of the commission dead. Because
00:34:50.480
Trump's a headliner. Trump plays the big rooms. Okay. Joe Biden is a lounge act. Okay.
00:34:56.560
He's a lounge act. He can't draw. You know that. So we have a headliner. As you know,
00:35:02.100
when Frank Sinatra walks in, the headliner gets what he wants. Right? Stars get what
00:35:07.880
they want. For sure. For sure. He doesn't... How do we, even in this situation of the controlled
00:35:13.920
mic, with the simple fact of what happened today, CNN as an institution, center... Their
00:35:19.800
organizing principle is anti-Trump. They hate him. And they despise him and they will do
00:35:25.940
whatever they can on Thursday to harm him. And whether it is Jake Tapper or whoever else
00:35:31.880
is... Dana Bash... Dana. And the producers. Mostly the producers behind the scenes. They
00:35:37.100
will try to harm him. They will do something. I can't imagine that they don't. This will
00:35:42.620
not be a fair debate. This is three on one. And guess what? It's a thousand on one. Well,
00:35:48.220
yeah. But Donald Trump is going to mop him. He's going to mop him because he is ready.
00:35:53.560
He's been waiting for four years for this. And so, you know...
00:35:57.840
Okay, but hang on a second. Hang on a second. Your theory of the case is he's going to mop
00:36:03.760
him. I can see that. In fact, I believe that. So then we get a replacement. Here's what I
00:36:08.680
would like. Here's what I think the campaign ought to do immediately. Because it's all unseen
00:36:14.540
CNN, MSNBC, New York Times all day long. They should say, look, we're not here for a practice
00:36:21.500
game. This is not an August NFL exhibition game. We are here to debate the Democratic Party's
00:36:29.080
nominee for president of the United States. If that is Newsom, Whitmer, Oprah Winfrey, Michelle
00:36:34.820
Obama, or hold it, Kamala Harris or Biden, we don't care. President Trump is totally indifferent.
00:36:40.920
He is. But he's not here for a practice. He's not here for a practice round. If he mobs
00:36:46.380
the floor, they immediately move to remove Biden. Okay. You're not buying that. Well, see,
00:36:51.680
how... But being the technicians that we are, it's very difficult at this point in time when
00:36:57.800
the delegates have been selected. When those delegates are either Biden's or Harris's.
00:37:02.780
You're a Republican. Let's play by the rules. No, no, no. It's the Democratic Party.
00:37:06.680
They're going to lose the presidency. Don't change any rule they have to change.
00:37:10.020
No, no. I don't disagree with you. But who that benefits is Kamala Harris. Because those
00:37:15.860
people, she has spent four years organizing. She has spent four years running it.
00:37:20.920
Are you saying that Kamala Harris wouldn't be a worthy opponent of our beloved president?
00:37:27.480
She is the one person who has a lower approval rating than Joe Biden.
00:37:31.420
Not just that. They had her this morning on Morning Joe. They asked her a straightforward
00:37:36.360
You can't even Mika. Morning Mika making the face, right? It's harder to follow than Joe.
00:37:42.700
It is. I mean, so no, I don't see that happening only because... Now, if you say to the vice
00:37:49.740
president, we're going to bring somebody in to replace Joe. And oh, by the way, it's Gavin
00:37:53.720
Newsom. You got to get off the ticket too, because you're from California. So she goes from...
00:38:00.320
This is a fight to the death for her. Because she's immaterial after that.
00:38:04.440
So you did deliver... Bossy delivered a big scalp.
00:38:08.080
The debate committee. Bossy told me... Bossy, you told me before 16. Because you've had a
00:38:13.700
hard-on for this debate commission for a while. Oh, for sure. A long time.
00:38:16.100
Because it's been rigged for so long. We learned it in 16.
00:38:18.900
16, but the Republicans were always just kind of went along and...
00:38:23.160
So you're telling me, Ferenkopf just called, the debate commission has canceled all four
00:38:28.680
debates? Just now. Literally as I was walking in the door 10 minutes ago. It's a fantastic
00:38:32.880
scalp. It's historic. What do you mean? It's huge. These are very... Look, these are very small
00:38:36.800
things. And Ferenkopf hates Trump. Hates Trump. Hates Trump. The entire group.
00:38:40.160
Hold it. They had the Cuban... Remember, they lied to us on everything. They lied to us on Cuban,
00:38:46.260
right, sitting in the president's sight line. Remember, we brought the women there.
00:38:50.360
That was one of the greatest operations we've ever done. I told Frank Ferenkopf and the
00:38:56.400
other guy, the other stooge, I said, hey, we're going to put these women in the family
00:39:01.660
seats. Remember? We're going to put them in the family seats.
00:39:04.920
VIP seats. He goes, no, it's only... He says, you can't do that, Bossy. It's only family.
00:39:09.940
And I go, is Claire McCaskill... Claire McCaskill, her big butt is sitting down there right in
00:39:15.460
the front. We're putting Paula Jones in there and Juanita Broderick.
00:39:18.760
And she's going to grab on things. You raped me.
00:39:21.660
Oh, my God. And they went haywire. They said, we're going to stop you from doing it. I said,
00:39:27.240
well, the president's going to personal... Mr. Trump is personally going to walk them up
00:39:30.860
to the stage. What are you going to do? We have the Secret Service. And they literally
00:39:34.900
went haywire. We didn't end up doing it, but it got in their heads.
00:39:37.880
The only reason we didn't end up doing it, President Trump made the decision. We went to
00:39:41.720
President Trump. It's 60 seconds before national global TV. And we said, hey, look, we want
00:39:47.820
to run something by you. We need your input. Mr. President, we need your input. We got
00:39:54.540
58 seconds. And we got... And he just kind of says, put the family there, put them in the
00:39:58.880
front row. But remember, Bill Clinton kept going the side out a lot.
00:40:02.220
Oh, for sure. That's the most famous photograph from that debate is Bill Clinton looking at
00:40:07.120
the women's side-eyed. I just want to say, tell your listeners, the executive director of
00:40:12.040
the Commission on Presidential Debate's salary in 2022, okay, for somebody who hasn't put on a
00:40:18.300
debate and will not put on a debate, is $568,000. Stop. Ferenkopf gets that much money?
00:40:24.800
No, that's his chief of staff gets that much money. They don't do anything. They don't do
00:40:28.440
anything. They produce four debates every four years. It's the best money you could ever have.
00:40:34.480
Does the U.S. government... How's that money... Where's the money come from?
00:40:36.420
It's quasi. It's one of these public-private partnerships. Yeah, they take money from all
00:40:40.140
the big corporations. Corporations. It's incredible. Incredible. Dave Bossie, that is a big scalp.
00:40:46.620
It is. Look, we got two in the last couple of years. One is the debate commission and the
00:40:51.740
other is Liz Cheney. Remember, we ran the operation to drive her out of the party, which then made
00:40:58.000
Marriott Hageman... Harriet Hageman. Harriet the nominee. It was an unbelievable... It was the
00:41:05.840
only real good thing the RNC's done in the last few years. And Stefanik take over as conference
00:41:10.320
chair? Oh, yeah. No, it's been a global change since that. That was one we had. There were
00:41:15.280
a couple of bank shots in there. That's okay. You know what? We had a couple of bank shots.
00:41:18.840
We like to win. We like to win. That debt commission... I mean, the Presidential Debate
00:41:23.920
Commission, that's a big one. It is. And it's permanent. Look, I don't know how four years from
00:41:28.720
now anybody tries to resurrect them. That's the beauty. Now we will have a true operation that
00:41:35.280
the free market will be able to determine who gets to the base. Okay. I'm just saying
00:41:38.940
vis-a-vis CNN. Trump's a headliner. He plays the big rooms. He's saving... First off, and
00:41:45.900
President Trump thinks this thing through in five-dimension chess, which often you and I
00:41:50.940
don't. Yes. He's saving CNN. They're dying. I know. They have nothing going on, right?
00:41:57.800
They're out of business, essentially. He's given them the biggest TV show in world history.
00:42:02.600
We'll be... This will be the biggest... If he doesn't get elected in 16, arguably,
00:42:06.320
they're not even around today. Oh, big time. Right? Yes, yes, yes. That's the only reason
00:42:10.380
they survived for four years. Ask the Washington Post's 50% drop in readership. Ask the reporters
00:42:14.440
getting laid off over there how much they love Trump, right? They have a 50% drop-off. I want
00:42:19.700
to hold you through the next break real quickly. The film is magnificent. When are people going
00:42:24.120
to be able to see it? So we are launching our Trump versus Biden film at the convention
00:42:32.860
on June 17th. So we will be having a lot to say about it. We're going to tease some folks
00:42:38.960
here with a little snippet of it here in a minute. And... No, it plays the cold open coming
00:42:43.440
in. Okay. We just played it. Didn't we just play the cold open? Yeah. We played it. Okay,
00:42:48.020
good. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So... Well, you were busy on your phone. See, this is what happens
00:42:51.180
when you're a big shot. In the war room, the way it works. The way it works. I learned
00:42:53.820
from you. No, no. The way it works. The schmendricks pay attention. The big shots get on their phone
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and talk to their agent. Hang on for a second. So the film is... Hold on, hold on, hold it.
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Stop. We're going to go to break. Good. Is it random? There's no coincidences, as you
00:43:09.800
know, in the war room. Right. You're premiering the film at the convention. The convention
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you're ahead of. Hold it. Hold it. We're having a huge premiere. We're going to do it
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of the convention. Yes, sir. You know what? It is... Is Ryan your other co-chairman? That
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Trump in this film? He is the star of the show. This is the greatest cast I've ever put together,
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everybody in it, from Byron Donalds, Matt Gaetz, Tom Holman, Ronnie Jackson, Jim Jordan,
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Keith Kellogg, Larry Kudlow, Carrie Lake, Jeff Landry, Anna Polina Luna, Cash Patel,
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Vivek Ramaswamy's in it, Russ Vogt. How long is this film? It's an hour and 11 minutes long.
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And this is right now, it's going to premiere at the convention? It is. And if you are coming to
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is this going to show? It's going to be on Wednesday afternoon. On Wednesday afternoon?
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So on Wednesday afternoon, before the convention starts. When can the Warren Posse get tickets?
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You know what? They just have to call. You know what? Cam, we'll figure out a way for you guys to...
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Fine. And give us a code and everything like that. We'll give you a code. We're going to get the
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Warren Posse. The website's going to be up around 1 July? It'll be out just after the 4th of July.
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Are you still editing this film? Dave and I have gone to a premiere before. What do you mean?
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The thing has got... It's dripping. It's still wet. It's still wet. You know what? That's the best way,
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because you want the film to be as fresh and current as possible, and that's what this is. Every day,
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Joe Biden does something screwed up that needs to be in the film, or something that Donald Trump does
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that needs to be in the film that people need to know about. This is a war film. This is our war
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film for this year. We have to save America, and I hope that this film's a little bit to educate
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the American people about it. Should he go back to CNN and say, hey, you disrespected me today? You
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disrespected me? You know what? I think he should definitely have some strong, strong language for
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them, because he needs to make sure they understand that he may not come, because you can't treat him
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this way. You can't... You just can't kick off, you know, our press secretary...
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The Monday... The starting show of the week on CNN. They dump her. They dump her.
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She was about to throw some receipts up on Jake Tapper, which everybody knows he hates Trump,
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right? She didn't even get to him. She goes, I want to have you...
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It's a no-brainer. It's a no-brainer. So look, what they're going to do is take a beating all week,
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and they need to. They need to have people like us on in some of these...
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The control room can't control Trump's mic. Bottom line. Do you agree with that?
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