Bannon's War Room - Episode 3714： Weak Rulings From SCOTUS; Fact Checking Biden For The Debate

00:00:00.000 Hello, hello.

00:00:01.000 You said the other day that millions of people would die if Donald Trump got reelected.

00:00:06.000 What did I say?

00:00:07.000 Millions of people would die if Donald Trump got reelected.

00:00:10.000 What's up with that?

00:00:11.000 What proof do you have to say something like that?

00:00:14.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:00:17.000 Who would say anything bad about Trump?

00:00:20.000 Nobody would say anything bad about Trump.

00:00:23.000 Why do you say bad things about Trump?

00:00:26.000 I mean, you just can't say people are going to die.

00:00:29.000 You're a really powerful woman.

00:00:31.000 So, like, when you say things like that, people get really scared.

00:00:34.000 No, no, what I said was Bannon told Trump that the way to win is you gotta play the race card.

00:00:42.000 You just talk about race and you'll win.

00:00:44.000 That's what Bannon said.

00:00:45.000 Well, the article said you said millions of people would die, and I pulled the clip.

00:00:49.000 Thousands, maybe millions of people, you know, being threatened and being at risk because of Donald Trump.

00:00:56.000 No.

00:00:57.000 So you didn't say that.

00:00:58.000 No.

00:00:59.000 Video doesn't lie, Congresswoman.

00:01:00.000 No, no, no.

00:01:01.000 What we said was what Bannon said.

00:01:03.000 I don't think so.

00:01:05.000 I think so.

00:01:06.000 This evening that the House of Representatives is weighing in and actually taking an official position on what we're on the verge of seeing happening on Monday.

00:01:18.000 Steve Bannon reporting to prison for defying a congressional subpoena and failing to respond to that.

00:01:25.000 Can you confirm that the House is expected to take an official position on that?

00:01:29.000 And if so, what is it?

00:01:32.000 Yeah, I can confirm that.

00:01:34.000 We'll be filing a brief in that legal proceeding.

00:01:37.000 And we think that's really important to do.

00:01:39.000 We think the previous statement of the House under Speaker Pelosi was incorrect.

00:01:44.000 We do not believe the January 6th special committee was properly constituted.

00:01:49.000 We don't think it followed the House rules.

00:01:51.000 And now we're finding under our own investigation that they may have, in fact, covered up some evidence.

00:01:56.000 That's a great concern to a lot of people.

00:01:57.000 You'll see a lengthy report come out on that.

00:02:00.000 But in the meantime, when they're using that to prosecute people, we think it's important for the House's position to be known, the current House.

00:02:07.000 And that is that we don't believe that that was a proper committee, properly constituted, that did appropriate work.

00:02:13.000 The court should take that into consideration.

00:02:15.000 And I think we have an obligation to make that position known.

00:02:18.000 Do you worry that that will undercut your ability to enforce congressional subpoenas in the future, though?

00:02:23.000 No, not at all.

00:02:25.000 You've got two totally different matters.

00:02:28.000 I mean, we're going to court, by the way, to enforce the subpoena against Merrick Garland.

00:02:33.000 The Judiciary Committee is is going to proceed in the court to make sure that the audio tape of the lengthy interview with the special counsel and President Biden is turned over to Congress.

00:02:43.000 We have a right to see it.

00:02:44.000 In fact, we have an obligation and necessity to hear that audio to make sure that it matches with the written transcript that Merrick Garland, the attorney general, turned over to the House.

00:02:54.000 You know, you've got you've got a conflict between the two branches.

00:02:56.000 The two branches were using Article one of the Constitution as we're supposed to do.

00:02:59.000 And of course, Steve Bannon was no longer working in the executive branch when he had his subpoena for the time period that it was relevant to.

00:03:06.000 We'll see how this pans out, how the Supreme Court takes it.

00:03:09.000 We had Steve Bannon chairing the campaign.

00:03:11.000 This cycle, Steve Bannon is on a schedule where he will be in a federal prison on Election Day.

00:03:17.000 He's speaking out here before reporting and he told the Guardian where the railhead of the big steel every day, every aspect of it, we take pride in it.

00:03:24.000 There shouldn't be anybody, he says, in the Trump campaign or the Republican Party that doesn't believe in their bones the 2020 election was stolen.

00:03:32.000 That is a false claim.

00:03:34.000 If you don't believe that, he says, you missed the point of where we are and why we're here.

00:03:40.000 James, what does it say about Mr. Bannon and the fate of this party?

00:03:46.000 He served in the Trump White House that he will be incarcerated under this federal calendar on Election Day and that he's demanding that to be in any position in the party, you have to spew these lies about their past loss.

00:03:59.000 Well, he's going to have four months to contemplate everything, but I think whoever his cellmate is can make a good Eighth Amendment case.

00:04:09.000 If you remember that from Roscoe, that's cruel and unusual punishment.

00:04:12.000 Yeah, I know the amendment.

00:04:13.000 You have to be in a cell and smell this guy.

00:04:15.000 I think that's something out of some North Korean torture chamber, but he's going to have a lot of time to think about 2020 and his past life and whatever the future holds. 0.51

00:04:28.000 Because he's going to the penitentiary probably for longer than four months.

00:04:32.000 So, yeah, well, it's not the only problem he has.

00:04:35.000 He needs a cell by himself.

00:04:37.000 Yeah, he needs a cell by himself because he's going to sink that jail up something fierce.

00:04:41.000 Well, there you go.

00:04:43.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:04:49.000 Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.

00:04:54.000 You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:05:00.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:05:02.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:05:03.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:05:06.000 It's going to happen.

00:05:07.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:05:10.000 Mega Media.

00:05:11.000 Mega Media.

00:05:12.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:05:17.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:05:21.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:05:27.000 War Room.

00:05:28.000 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:05:30.000 Band.

00:05:34.000 It's Wednesday, 26 June.

00:05:35.000 You're of our Lord 2024.

00:05:37.000 No, we're not going to have time to contemplate.

00:05:39.000 We don't contemplate.

00:05:40.000 What we do is action, action, action.

00:05:42.000 Next week, nothing is going to change.

00:05:45.000 Trust me, there's no prison in the world that can shut down the voice of the War Room,

00:05:49.000 the most powerful platform in all media.

00:05:52.000 That's what they fear us.

00:05:53.000 So let's keep grinding.

00:05:55.000 We're honored today.

00:05:56.000 It's been a couple of years.

00:05:58.000 First, it's been a couple of years since we even got you on Skype, right?

00:06:01.000 We're doing the phones.

00:06:02.000 A couple of Boris Epstein joins us for the hour.

00:06:05.000 As you can see, I've only gained in handsomeness.

00:06:08.000 You have.

00:06:09.000 Very squared away.

00:06:10.000 You look very lawyerly.

00:06:11.000 You've got the three-piece suit on.

00:06:13.000 It all works.

00:06:15.000 So historic week.

00:06:17.000 Supreme Court.

00:06:18.000 Yes.

00:06:19.000 Cases going on all over the place.

00:06:22.000 And also a historic debate tomorrow night.

00:06:26.000 Yes.

00:06:27.000 Let's start with the Supreme Court.

00:06:28.000 Particularly, a lot of people very disappointed in the Facebook situation today.

00:06:33.000 Now, if some people say.

00:06:34.000 It's on standing.

00:06:35.000 So you're saying that it never really got to the merits.

00:06:37.000 No, it never got to the merits.

00:06:38.000 It was on standing.

00:06:39.000 In some ways expected.

00:06:41.000 And the court continues to take its time.

00:06:45.000 There's decision days tomorrow and Friday.

00:06:47.000 But now, generally seen as very possible that it goes into next week.

00:06:51.000 And obviously there's two main cases.

00:06:53.000 Immunity and Fisher.

00:06:54.000 But hang on.

00:06:55.000 There's no conference scheduled for tomorrow.

00:06:56.000 So that means they've done everything.

00:06:58.000 They would schedule a conference tomorrow.

00:07:00.000 So they may have them backed up.

00:07:01.000 Is it too much to give Thursday and Friday?

00:07:04.000 They would have a conference if they didn't have things finished.

00:07:07.000 Generally.

00:07:08.000 Well, maybe yes, maybe no.

00:07:09.000 They could also schedule one.

00:07:10.000 And also generally.

00:07:11.000 Are you repeating MSNBC?

00:07:12.000 You're getting your information.

00:07:13.000 You're a warm room baby.

00:07:15.000 There's no conference.

00:07:16.000 Chief Justice Roberts usually announces the last day of the term from the bench.

00:07:23.000 Yes.

00:07:24.000 And he hasn't done that yet.

00:07:25.000 Okay.

00:07:26.000 So you don't anticipate Friday.

00:07:27.000 It's all tea leaves.

00:07:28.000 It could easily.

00:07:29.000 I mean, there's about 13 left.

00:07:31.000 Could they do seven and six?

00:07:34.000 Absolutely.

00:07:35.000 But there's 13 left.

00:07:36.000 They only did two today.

00:07:38.000 I think the largest amount they've done this term, I believe, is five cases.

00:07:43.000 Well, they actually inadvertently did three today because they somehow leaked the abortion one.

00:07:47.000 Just shockingly that happened.

00:07:49.000 Yeah.

00:07:50.000 I remember Dobbs.

00:07:51.000 I remember two years ago yesterday that that happened.

00:07:54.000 Yeah.

00:07:55.000 You don't believe in coincidences?

00:07:56.000 You don't think of coincidence?

00:07:57.000 I don't believe in conspiracies or coincidences.

00:07:59.000 Yes.

00:08:00.000 Let's go to the...

00:08:01.000 So just, you know, as you look at this term, it's been a very interesting term in the Supreme Court.

00:08:05.000 It's been historic.

00:08:06.000 It's been historic.

00:08:07.000 It's been historic.

00:08:08.000 Some of the decisions have been, you know, right where they were expected to be.

00:08:12.000 For example, the decision on malicious prosecution.

00:08:16.000 Some of the decisions on, you know, criminal evidence, et cetera.

00:08:19.000 Right, you know, right on point.

00:08:21.000 And where they were expected today.

00:08:23.000 Again, more on, you know, more on standing, more procedural.

00:08:26.000 So, and, but it's really in the end, it's all about the two main cases.

00:08:30.000 Okay.

00:08:31.000 It's about Fisher and it's about immunity.

00:08:32.000 And you cannot have a presidency without immunity.

00:08:34.000 Let's go back.

00:08:35.000 Why, why has this been historic?

00:08:37.000 Last year was historic, but this year is really historic by the types of cases they take on.

00:08:42.000 Which is expanded.

00:08:43.000 Why is that?

00:08:44.000 Because of President Trump.

00:08:45.000 Totally.

00:08:46.000 Those, those young justices that are up there, particularly Gorsuch is driving a lot of things by his opinion.

00:08:53.000 And they're settling into.

00:08:55.000 Walk to how we did that.

00:08:56.000 Because at the time in the spring of 2016, right when he came out of the, right when he came out of the primary, there's a lot of still, it was a bigger group of rhinos that didn't want to support Trump.

00:09:09.000 He's a Democrat.

00:09:10.000 They're going to overthrow him at the convention.

00:09:12.000 Right.

00:09:13.000 He put the, he put the list of 10 judges up.

00:09:15.000 Ken Cuccinelli.

00:09:16.000 10 judges up.

00:09:17.000 And that was good.

00:09:18.000 Then when I came aboard, we put another, I think another 10, I think it was 12.

00:09:22.000 I think it was 12, yes.

00:09:23.000 Well, Mike Lee was there, but Gorsuch was there.

00:09:25.000 Right.

00:09:26.000 That brought a lot of the conservatives on.

00:09:28.000 For sure.

00:09:29.000 I mean, shouldn't, when you hear a lot of back talk and back chat now with 14 or 15% of Republicans saying, well, you know, I wanted Nikki Haley, et cetera.

00:09:38.000 You see what this court has done.

00:09:40.000 You see how they're actually driving the agenda on taking on cases.

00:09:45.000 First of all, we have the Chevron deference.

00:09:47.000 We have three massive cases, tons of important ones, five on the administrative state.

00:09:52.000 But you have the Chevron deference, which is the mac daddy of the administrative state.

00:09:56.000 You have Fisher, which I think is going to be massive.

00:09:59.000 And you have immunity, which is historic.

00:10:03.000 That's all because of the Trump court.

00:10:06.000 President Trump, why don't certain, particularly big donors see that today that, hey, you could have another spot.

00:10:13.000 You know, Sotomayor, God bless her.

00:10:17.000 But she's the first one to say all the time how ill she is.

00:10:19.000 Totally.

00:10:20.000 Talk to me about why don't, why are these people so upset with President Trump?

00:10:26.000 So that 10%, that kind of rump of the old Republican Party coming home.

00:10:29.000 A month ago it was 15%, let's say.

00:10:34.000 You like the trend line.

00:10:35.000 Today it's 10.

00:10:36.000 We'll come out of convention.

00:10:38.000 It'll be at five.

00:10:40.000 You don't see a Karl Rove.

00:10:41.000 You don't see the Murdochs right now with Karl Rove with the white thing trying to have a rear guard action about getting Nikki Haley either on the ticket or trying to force something to the convention?

00:10:50.000 Post-sentencing of President Trump on the 11th?

00:10:52.000 Could they be trying to come up with something?

00:10:54.000 Absolutely.

00:10:55.000 Are they going to be successful?

00:10:56.000 Absolutely not.

00:10:57.000 Because what you see all across the country, right, from the rally in Wildwood, New Jersey, to the Bronx, and obviously to the key states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, and others, President Trump has gotten the backing and support of the populace, of the movement in a way nobody ever has.

00:11:17.000 Nobody ever has.

00:11:18.000 And frankly, I think it's hotter now than it was even in 2016.

00:11:21.000 Oh, it's hotter now.

00:11:22.000 Definitely.

00:11:23.000 And a lot of that…

00:11:24.000 We're coming off a 74 million base.

00:11:25.000 Right.

00:11:26.000 That's why.

00:11:27.000 We took 63 million to 74 million is a big ratchet.

00:11:28.000 And 74 is what they say, right?

00:11:30.000 Let's be honest.

00:11:31.000 Exactly.

00:11:32.000 Might have been a couple of three short counts on that.

00:11:34.000 Could have been maybe 10 million more than that, right?

00:11:36.000 If he had 80, if Brooker Joe had 81.

00:11:39.000 Right.

00:11:40.000 So what you're looking at is an increase and a broadening of the MAGA base.

00:11:46.000 And this show and the War Room Posse in huge ways to take credit for that.

00:11:52.000 So if you look at that and if you look at the way it's working out right now, even the donors are seeing what's happening.

00:11:59.000 And that's why you're seeing them.

00:12:00.000 You're more and more now.

00:12:01.000 Big article about Paul Singer yesterday.

00:12:03.000 They're all kind of coming home.

00:12:04.000 They're coming home.

00:12:05.000 They're coming home.

00:12:06.000 They're coming home.

00:12:07.000 Maxine Waters.

00:12:08.000 I said this in 16.

00:12:09.000 Remember, Boris, by the way, in 16, was head of surrogates.

00:12:11.000 He worked with Jason on the comms thing.

00:12:13.000 And I had known Boris, but I got to really know him.

00:12:16.000 Here's how I got to know him.

00:12:17.000 And on the second day I think I'm there, we get a call from Zucker.

00:12:20.000 And Zucker says, this guy is never allowed in the CNN.

00:12:24.000 Hold on.

00:12:25.000 On the first day you were there, CNN tries to destroy you with every piece of Steve Bannon

00:12:30.000 and Oppo ever.

00:12:31.000 OK?

00:12:32.000 And I go on CNN with Aaron Burnett.

00:12:34.000 And we'd known each other.

00:12:35.000 Yeah.

00:12:36.000 And Aaron Burnett says, you know, and there was some comments.

00:12:39.000 Well, you're Jewish. 0.67

00:12:40.000 And I go, Steve Bannon is a friend.

00:12:43.000 He's a champion of the state of Israel.

00:12:44.000 He's a champion of the Jewish people.

00:12:46.000 He's supportive.

00:12:47.000 So that was day one.

00:12:48.000 Day two, they tried to ban me.

00:12:49.000 No.

00:12:50.000 Day two, Zucker calls up and says, look, this guy, Boris, we came on because the host,

00:12:56.000 he won't back down.

00:12:57.000 I said, well, that's who he's supposed to be.

00:12:59.000 He's the head of surrogates for Trump campaign.

00:13:00.000 I mean, he says, no, no, no.

00:13:01.000 He's got to be more reasonable.

00:13:02.000 So here's the thing.

00:13:04.000 If he comes back, I said, well, look, he's our head of surrogates and he books and we

00:13:09.000 always want him on CNN or MSNBC.

00:13:11.000 And he goes, look, let me be blunt.

00:13:13.000 If he comes in the building, we're not going to lay him up.

00:13:16.000 I go, fine.

00:13:17.000 He'll just come in the building, stay in the lobby and forget it.

00:13:19.000 He says, no, no, no.

00:13:20.000 If he comes in the building, we're going to arrest him.

00:13:21.000 I said, our head of surrogates.

00:13:23.000 And we still sent you over there.

00:13:24.000 He still went over there.

00:13:25.000 And then the best part is after we won, I was the communications director for the inaugural.

00:13:28.000 So then they had to take me nonstop with a long fake tapper and the long faces.

00:13:33.000 So we've got a lot of history.

00:13:35.000 You talk about the oppo they had ready to go and dump on there.

00:13:39.000 And Hillary Clinton came off the beach and went to Reno for her big speech. 0.85

00:13:42.000 And what she said is exactly, that's why I want to start with Maxine Waters.

00:13:46.000 Said the exact same thing.

00:13:47.000 Ban has told Trump, be white nationalists, everything.

00:13:50.000 And I said to the Temer, I called Temer, I said, hey, if they're going to argue this,

00:13:54.000 and we're arguing, you know, populist nationalist economic policies,

00:13:58.000 particularly for people of the Northwest and about the border and immigration,

00:14:02.000 we've got this.

00:14:03.000 They can't beat us.

00:14:04.000 If that's what they're going to talk about.

00:14:05.000 And frankly, they've got a tough argument with Crooked Joe, right?

00:14:09.000 Because with Hillary Clinton, they had some story.

00:14:11.000 Oh, it's a woman, glass ceiling, all that nonsense, right? 1.00

00:14:13.000 But Joe, he's got the oldest, whitest guy. 0.99

00:14:16.000 And he's getting whiter.

00:14:17.000 I don't know what's happened to his skin. 0.99

00:14:18.000 He got the, and he's, he's stone cold racist. 0.97

00:14:21.000 Yeah, big time. 0.98

00:14:22.000 I mean, literally anybody looks at him, they're like, stone cold racist.

00:14:24.000 I mean, all you got to do is pull up the comments.

00:14:26.000 And not from like 30 years ago, from 10 years ago.

00:14:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:14:30.000 So they have no argument.

00:14:32.000 Nothing.

00:14:33.000 What they have is these vague appeals.

00:14:36.000 We're getting this.

00:14:37.000 Bidenomics is failing.

00:14:38.000 It's just an epic fail.

00:14:39.000 Oh, that's why they don't use it anymore.

00:14:40.000 Bidenomics.

00:14:41.000 They don't want to talk about it.

00:14:42.000 And they're trying to set a trap for President Trump.

00:14:43.000 President Trump ran up more debt in the six o'clock hour.

00:14:46.000 Dave Brat's going to join me.

00:14:47.000 We're going to, we're going to blow that up.

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00:16:23.000 Folks, remember, Boris, your most famous hit on here is the one standing at Andrews Air Force Base.

00:16:32.000 That's right.

00:16:33.000 The president just left.

00:16:34.000 And we committed that day that this is not the last time, you know,

00:16:37.000 he's coming to Washington, D.C. as president of the United States.

00:16:39.000 We made a commitment on air and dug in hard on this thing.

00:16:43.000 It looked a little grim there for a couple of days.

00:16:45.000 There's a lot of crickets around.

00:16:46.000 A little grim.

00:16:47.000 We looked around for friends.

00:16:49.000 There were not a lot around.

00:16:50.000 You couldn't even come over here because, remember,

00:16:52.000 we had a hundred up-armored National Guard troops with two up-armored Humvees on the street.

00:16:57.000 Of course, every street head but the barbed wire of the Supreme Court.

00:17:00.000 A little different now, is it not?

00:17:01.000 It's a little different.

00:17:02.000 A little different.

00:17:03.000 Getting a lot of phone calls, a lot of texts from people I hadn't heard about.

00:17:05.000 Got a lot of friends.

00:17:06.000 Yeah, a lot of friends.

00:17:07.000 Best friends.

00:17:08.000 Speaking of best friends, you're Georgetown Undergraduate School of Foreign Service,

00:17:12.000 which is the elite program over there, the Walsh School of Foreign Service.

00:17:15.000 You're also a Georgetown Law School graduate.

00:17:18.000 That's right.

00:17:19.000 Double hood.

00:17:20.000 I notice when I see all the articles about famous Georgetown alumni, I'm not reading your name.

00:17:26.000 I just don't know why they keep excluding me.

00:17:29.000 It's really shocking.

00:17:30.000 You know, it really hurts me a lot now.

00:17:33.000 You know, actually, and we've talked about this.

00:17:35.000 Neil Katyal was my professor.

00:17:37.000 The biggest demon on MSMEC. 0.73

00:17:40.000 I mean, a true hater.

00:17:42.000 He's not a big fan of ours.

00:17:43.000 Not a big fan.

00:17:44.000 But always kind to you whenever I run into him with Tosca.

00:17:47.000 Which I never go to.

00:17:48.000 Was he a good professor?

00:17:51.000 He was a solid professor.

00:17:54.000 He was a Solicitor General, wasn't he?

00:17:56.000 Acting Solicitor General.

00:17:57.000 Acting Solicitor General.

00:17:58.000 After.

00:17:59.000 So I was there, 04 to 07.

00:18:00.000 I believe it was criminal law, either criminal law or criminal justice.

00:18:04.000 And you know what?

00:18:05.000 He was fair enough.

00:18:07.000 I may or may not have booked the class.

00:18:09.000 Right.

00:18:10.000 You have been senior advisor, one of the senior advisors to the president for about two

00:18:14.000 and a half years.

00:18:15.000 In this instance, right?

00:18:16.000 In this instance.

00:18:17.000 Yes.

00:18:18.000 Yes.

00:18:19.000 Advisor before.

00:18:20.000 The.

00:18:21.000 And I believe.

00:18:23.000 That you have not been.

00:18:25.000 Because you used to do Skype.

00:18:26.000 We do hits.

00:18:27.000 Because you were all over the country doing things also here.

00:18:29.000 I don't think we've seen you on Skype.

00:18:31.000 I'm checking my crack producer.

00:18:32.000 I think in over a year.

00:18:33.000 I think it's been a long time.

00:18:34.000 By phone.

00:18:35.000 I'm not here.

00:18:36.000 And it's great to be.

00:18:37.000 You know, I'll report to the audience.

00:18:38.000 Nothing's changed.

00:18:39.000 Nothing's changed.

00:18:40.000 I think I see newspapers from 2020.

00:18:42.000 Okay.

00:18:43.000 But in all seriousness, it's great to be in the war room.

00:18:46.000 And there's nothing like the energy of being here.

00:18:48.000 No.

00:18:49.000 The phone's great.

00:18:50.000 And the, you know.

00:18:51.000 The coffee.

00:18:52.000 The Warpath coffee's always burned.

00:18:54.000 It's just.

00:18:55.000 There's nothing like being here.

00:18:56.000 Nothing like seeing the background.

00:18:58.000 And here's the reality.

00:18:59.000 You know, all kidding aside.

00:19:00.000 All jokes.

00:19:01.000 We have had the most historic three plus.

00:19:05.000 I mean, obviously, since the win in 2016, it's been historic.

00:19:08.000 No question about it.

00:19:09.000 We've.

00:19:10.000 Quite a run.

00:19:11.000 The president has changed American history.

00:19:13.000 100%.

00:19:14.000 Since.

00:19:15.000 It's the age of Trump.

00:19:16.000 It's the age of Trump.

00:19:17.000 Age of Trump.

00:19:18.000 Since.

00:19:19.000 As you said, since January 20, 2021.

00:19:21.000 When I called in and you were sitting right here.

00:19:24.000 And it was.

00:19:25.000 And we were playing the Sinatra song.

00:19:27.000 Count them on one hand.

00:19:28.000 Yeah.

00:19:29.000 Right?

00:19:30.000 Folks, you don't remember.

00:19:31.000 It was.

00:19:32.000 Folks that were with us remember.

00:19:33.000 Man.

00:19:34.000 There were not a lot of friends here.

00:19:35.000 Well, we did.

00:19:36.000 To my guests.

00:19:37.000 When you.

00:19:38.000 You were doing the show.

00:19:39.000 It was me and you for like three hours a day for a while.

00:19:41.000 Exactly.

00:19:42.000 For a while.

00:19:43.000 I was calling it.

00:19:44.000 But.

00:19:45.000 And here's the thing.

00:19:46.000 And it's a huge.

00:19:47.000 And not just because you're.

00:19:48.000 You know.

00:19:49.000 A dear friend.

00:19:50.000 And I love you.

00:19:51.000 But you're.

00:19:52.000 You.

00:19:53.000 It is a huge testament to you, Steve.

00:19:54.000 As a leader in the movement.

00:19:55.000 No, it's.

00:19:56.000 No.

00:19:57.000 But.

00:19:58.000 Throwing down.

00:19:59.000 30.

00:20:00.000 45 days later.

00:20:01.000 He's at CPAC Orlando.

00:20:02.000 Throwing down hard.

00:20:03.000 Throwing down hard.

00:20:04.000 But here's the thing.

00:20:05.000 President Trump.

00:20:06.000 And I can say this.

00:20:07.000 And I'm honored to say.

00:20:08.000 I'm honored by my role.

00:20:09.000 President Trump never looked back.

00:20:11.000 He looks forward.

00:20:13.000 And it's all about fighting.

00:20:14.000 And fighting the 2020 election is also all about.

00:20:17.000 It's all about righting the wrongs and bringing America back.

00:20:19.000 And bringing America back. 0.75

00:20:20.000 You're a student of history.

00:20:21.000 I call him the American Cincinnatus.

00:20:22.000 Yes.

00:20:23.000 Just like the.

00:20:24.000 The Roman general.

00:20:25.000 He's come back.

00:20:26.000 He didn't.

00:20:27.000 When he went down Mar-a-Lago.

00:20:28.000 The most logical thing to have done.

00:20:30.000 And Maggie Haber and Swan had a brilliant piece about this.

00:20:33.000 Said Trump is back today in the greatest comeback ever.

00:20:36.000 Because he did not take the knee back in Mar-a-Lago in the first.

00:20:39.000 When the Republican establishment wanted him to apologize.

00:20:41.000 Totally.

00:20:42.000 If he had done what they wanted to do.

00:20:44.000 He would have been finished.

00:20:45.000 By not doing that.

00:20:47.000 And then.

00:20:48.000 Which I think is the most patriotic move in American history.

00:20:51.000 Understanding what was going to be in front of him.

00:20:54.000 You know.

00:20:55.000 Charging him with felonies.

00:20:56.000 Trying to bankrupt him.

00:20:57.000 Trying to destroy him.

00:20:58.000 Power and throw.

00:20:59.000 Still did it.

00:21:00.000 And I'll tell you this.

00:21:01.000 Again.

00:21:02.000 From experience.

00:21:03.000 There's nobody on God's green earth.

00:21:05.000 Including the two people sitting right here.

00:21:07.000 Who could take the constant assault.

00:21:10.000 Every day.

00:21:11.000 The constant oncoming.

00:21:14.000 The onslaught.

00:21:15.000 Like President Trump does.

00:21:17.000 He's golfing better than he ever has.

00:21:18.000 He's firing all cylinders.

00:21:19.000 The rallies are better than they ever were.

00:21:21.000 The rallies are the best they've ever been.

00:21:23.000 The stand up at the rallies is all world.

00:21:25.000 And what he's bringing America right now.

00:21:28.000 Is frankly probably our last chance.

00:21:30.000 It's our last chance to turn it back around.

00:21:33.000 But you talk about that.

00:21:34.000 With his energy and what he's doing.

00:21:36.000 That's why people.

00:21:37.000 And I just put up Amber Rose as the comms director in 47. 1.00

00:21:40.000 Because I see her on Twitter all the time.

00:21:45.000 You're seeing all types of demographics.

00:21:48.000 They've never been exposed to President Trump.

00:21:50.000 And we're told what Mad Maxine Walter said.

00:21:54.000 She's not happy.

00:21:55.000 They're not happy.

00:21:56.000 The same stuff they do in 16.

00:21:58.000 But audiences are sitting there like Amber Rose said the other day.

00:22:01.000 We've believed the propaganda.

00:22:03.000 We're doing our own research.

00:22:04.000 And he is reaching whether it's the UFC when he goes to Miami.

00:22:08.000 The UFC.

00:22:09.000 Wildwood, New Jersey.

00:22:10.000 South Bronx.

00:22:11.000 South Bronx.

00:22:12.000 The Bodega Run.

00:22:13.000 But then to go to the Charlotte's.

00:22:15.000 The Coca-Cola 600 down in Charlotte.

00:22:17.000 He's going everywhere in the United States.

00:22:19.000 What he did to the evangelicals.

00:22:20.000 I was with him in New York.

00:22:21.000 You know.

00:22:22.000 And that was a slog.

00:22:24.000 Right.

00:22:25.000 For anybody to sit through there as he said.

00:22:26.000 Right.

00:22:27.000 It's freezing cold.

00:22:28.000 And they're trying.

00:22:29.000 It's crazy.

00:22:30.000 And he still had the strength and the power to fight it out.

00:22:34.000 To do those press conferences every single day.

00:22:37.000 And then go out and do events.

00:22:38.000 And I'll tell you.

00:22:39.000 The people lining those streets in New York.

00:22:40.000 Sure.

00:22:41.000 There's some haters here.

00:22:42.000 Overwhelmingly.

00:22:43.000 In huge numbers.

00:22:44.000 It was love.

00:22:45.000 The doorman at the hotels.

00:22:46.000 It's love.

00:22:47.000 The random people stopping me on the street.

00:22:49.000 Because they happen to see me in the background.

00:22:50.000 It's love.

00:22:51.000 It's all about love for president.

00:22:52.000 You should.

00:22:53.000 People screaming for him when he pulls back.

00:22:55.000 You know.

00:22:56.000 Onto 56th Street.

00:22:57.000 Going home.

00:22:58.000 There's something going on in this country.

00:23:00.000 No matter how much Nicole Wallace can scream about it. 1.00

00:23:03.000 And be upset about it.

00:23:04.000 No matter how much any of the haters out there can deny it.

00:23:09.000 It's just.

00:23:10.000 It's there.

00:23:11.000 And there's nothing they can do about it.

00:23:13.000 There's no amount of cheating.

00:23:15.000 There's no amount of lying.

00:23:16.000 There's no amount of fake news.

00:23:18.000 The yearning for Donald J. Trump is unlike anything that I think has ever happened in this country.

00:23:24.000 One of the reasons is I think people have looked at his courage in handling this.

00:23:27.000 And how he's handled it with kind of class and stick to it in this.

00:23:32.000 It hasn't.

00:23:33.000 It hasn't gotten him down.

00:23:34.000 He still does the rallies.

00:23:35.000 He's still a beat.

00:23:36.000 Totally.

00:23:37.000 And I think people who are just coming to politics.

00:23:39.000 And this is why I think his numbers are going to be so huge this time.

00:23:42.000 Just coming to politics.

00:23:43.000 They compare and contrast.

00:23:45.000 Trump every day going to these rallies with a sense of humor.

00:23:48.000 And Biden, which is still Biden.

00:23:52.000 Totally illegitimate.

00:23:53.000 And this is what I said the other day.

00:23:54.000 If you don't believe it's stolen.

00:23:55.000 If you don't believe it's stolen.

00:23:56.000 I have no time for you.

00:23:58.000 I just don't.

00:23:59.000 It's a joke.

00:24:00.000 It's a joke, right?

00:24:01.000 It's a joke.

00:24:02.000 And that's why people say, oh, it's not about the past and the future.

00:24:05.000 It's about the present.

00:24:06.000 Yes.

00:24:07.000 And it's about this country.

00:24:08.000 And we've said this time and time.

00:24:09.000 Look at all the people who say, oh, you never, never talk about.

00:24:13.000 But if we don't continue to make it very clear that 2020 was stolen and that 2020 was an

00:24:22.000 abomination that's an assault on our country, then that gives a green light to the Democrats

00:24:26.000 to do it again.

00:24:27.000 And you better believe that Mark Elias and all those demons are doing all they can to

00:24:31.000 come back and steal because that is the only way they can.

00:24:34.000 Weaponization has failed.

00:24:35.000 Let's be honest.

00:24:36.000 Their attention.

00:24:37.000 Hold it.

00:24:38.000 The Washington Post.

00:24:39.000 The Washington Post lead story in this morning's paper.

00:24:41.000 The democracy issue is Trump's issue now.

00:24:44.000 I know.

00:24:45.000 Biden has done this.

00:24:46.000 They did the polling and the American people feel more comfortable with Trump handling

00:24:50.000 democracy.

00:24:51.000 Could you imagine that poll to the Washington Post?

00:24:52.000 It gets those numbers.

00:24:53.000 No, the guy, the new guy running it told the writers, hey, don't give me your grief.

00:24:59.000 We're 50 percent down in eyeballs.

00:25:01.000 It's not going so well.

00:25:02.000 What do you think, Jeff Bezos?

00:25:03.000 Well, now they say democracy dies in darkness and Trump is winning on the democracy issue.

00:25:08.000 I haven't noticed that today on Nicole Walls. 0.99

00:25:11.000 They haven't played that on MSNBC.

00:25:12.000 They're not talking about that poll.

00:25:13.000 For some reason, the poll is not getting that much coverage.

00:25:15.000 Folks, you've got to know this.

00:25:16.000 Washington Post, serious poll, polled the American voter, and they come back on the

00:25:21.000 democracy issue they talk about all the time.

00:25:23.000 Who do voters trust more on this democracy issue?

00:25:27.000 Trump.

00:25:28.000 Do you think it's at the campaign headquarters right now?

00:25:31.000 Hey, by the way, Biden, Harris.

00:25:32.000 Here's the headline.

00:25:33.000 Trump trusted more than Biden or democracy among key, not just voters, swing state voters.

00:25:40.000 And it's not about like 1%.

00:25:42.000 It's 44 to 33.

00:25:44.000 It's 11.

00:25:45.000 It's unbelievable.

00:25:46.000 It's 11%.

00:25:47.000 Among deciders, it's 38 to 29.

00:25:49.000 What does that say?

00:25:50.000 What it says is that what we've known all along is that when the American people are enabled

00:25:57.000 to take off the goggles, enabled to take off the sunglasses, they see the truth and they

00:26:02.000 see the reality.

00:26:03.000 And this weaponization, as you said, Steve, I've had people who were just hardcore never

00:26:09.000 Trumpers who, you know, you and I have known for years who are reaching out to me now after

00:26:14.000 that absolutely travesty of a verdict in New York saying, you know what?

00:26:17.000 I just donated to Trump.

00:26:18.000 They were.

00:26:19.000 These people were outraged.

00:26:21.000 As Trump says, if it can happen to Trump, it can happen to everybody.

00:26:24.000 Totally.

00:26:25.000 New York City is going to take a major hit on this.

00:26:27.000 Oh, and the business community?

00:26:28.000 The business and finance community because they can make up anything.

00:26:31.000 We still don't know today what the underlying charge we said.

00:26:35.000 It could be four here, three here.

00:26:37.000 It's so confusing.

00:26:38.000 No, no.

00:26:39.000 And remember, and this doesn't get as much coverage as it should, the misdemeanor charged

00:26:45.000 is barred by the statute of limitations.

00:26:47.000 The way they try to get around that is by saying that there was an intent to commit another

00:26:52.000 misdemeanor, which makes the original misdemeanor a felony.

00:26:55.000 That is a complete Frankenstein.

00:26:57.000 It's a travesty and it's un-American and it's coming through that way. 1.00

00:27:00.000 It's, by the way, his numbers since the first time they were indicted have been up.

00:27:06.000 He's on a roll.

00:27:07.000 It's a nice long roll.

00:27:09.000 Byron York's done a great job.

00:27:11.000 Rover's right.

00:27:12.000 He had a slight hickey when the thing was first announced, one or one and a half percent.

00:27:17.000 He's back across the board.

00:27:19.000 Look at the fundraising.

00:27:20.000 The fundraising is unbelievable.

00:27:22.000 Byron York's done a terrific job on that.

00:27:24.000 You're going to hang around.

00:27:25.000 I'm here.

00:27:26.000 We got him in town here for the whole hour.

00:27:28.000 Are you concerned before I go?

00:27:29.000 Are you concerned?

00:27:30.000 Are you concerned?

00:27:31.000 They only got one way they can do this.

00:27:32.000 They have to steal it.

00:27:33.000 Are you concerned about the election integrity?

00:27:35.000 I mean, we've got a recall up in Wisconsin.

00:27:37.000 You've got this madness out in Arizona right now.

00:27:39.000 Am I concerned?

00:27:40.000 Of course I'm concerned.

00:27:41.000 We've got to be concerned.

00:27:42.000 Because by being concerned and being vigilant is the only way we prevent it.

00:27:45.000 But I'm also confident that we've got the right team.

00:27:48.000 You and I know a lot of the players who are on it nonstop, day in, day out.

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00:30:25.000 Okay, let's go back to business here.

00:30:31.000 Let's get to the Chevron deference.

00:30:33.000 Yes.

00:30:34.000 Historic, important.

00:30:35.000 This is Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, the reason they're on the Supreme Court, the deconstruction of the administrative state.

00:30:40.000 Walk me through for the audience.

00:30:42.000 Why is this the Mac Daddy and so important?

00:30:44.000 There are four other administrative state cases.

00:30:48.000 Because for the last, what, 50 years, there's been an acceptance that courts were going to, quote unquote, defer to the agencies.

00:30:57.000 And the issue with the agencies, as simple as it can be, is that no one knows what branch they're a part of.

00:31:05.000 Are they legislative?

00:31:06.000 Are they executive?

00:31:07.000 Are they executive?

00:31:08.000 But really, much like the independent counsel, special counsel, which issue came up, obviously, in Florida this week, they're effectively a fourth branch of government because they have no oversight.

00:31:18.000 And that's what the Chevron deference held up.

00:31:20.000 And now that it's gone.

00:31:21.000 Because they said that you deferred to the government to make the rules and interpret the rules.

00:31:25.000 Exactly.

00:31:26.000 Once you do that, business is on its back foot, but also the legislature.

00:31:28.000 Because, again, you pass these general bills and they fill it in with the details.

00:31:32.000 If you have a deference from the courts, then you have no oversight from Congress.

00:31:36.000 And the executive branch, once it's put into place, doesn't have, has no power over it.

00:31:43.000 So, again, these were effectively became Frankensteins that were not able to be.

00:31:47.000 This would be one of the great legacies of the age of Trump.

00:31:49.000 He took on Leviathan, not talked about it.

00:31:51.000 Totally.

00:31:52.000 And not deregulation.

00:31:53.000 This is actually going to take it apart.

00:31:54.000 Because if not, then all these agencies are able to do whatever they want without any oversight.

00:31:58.000 You can't control the 7.2 training budget.

00:32:00.000 It's only going to increase.

00:32:01.000 Totally.

00:32:02.000 You can't control that.

00:32:03.000 And that's what these, again, these Trump justices, they put an end to that.

00:32:07.000 And now the big two cases left are immunity.

00:32:10.000 And to really boil it down, just for the audience, as you think about it.

00:32:16.000 And President Trump put this so poignantly and so directly.

00:32:21.000 Without immunity, you cannot have a presidency.

00:32:24.000 Because if you don't have presidential immunity for official acts, people get, oh, look who's in the background.

00:32:30.000 People are going to be indicted.

00:32:31.000 You're always looking over your shoulder.

00:32:32.000 Always.

00:32:33.000 Always.

00:32:34.000 You have to be.

00:32:35.000 If you didn't have immunity, you would not be doing what you thought was right.

00:32:40.000 No.

00:32:41.000 You'd have to.

00:32:42.000 Truman would literally have not bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

00:32:45.000 Even Obama, who knows if he would have.

00:32:47.000 Took out the Yemenis. 1.00

00:32:48.000 Or Bin Laden.

00:32:49.000 Yeah.

00:32:50.000 Who knows?

00:32:52.000 It will destroy the presidency.

00:32:54.000 And the president will become a figurehead who can't, you know, who can't do anything.

00:32:59.000 As monumental as that.

00:33:00.000 In terms of their decision.

00:33:01.000 And by the way, just real quick, Steve.

00:33:02.000 Go ahead.

00:33:03.000 That's not Bobby Madison.

00:33:04.000 The reason that Chief Justice Marshall said that courts will not sit in judgment of the

00:33:08.000 president is because if that happens, you not only don't have a separation, you have

00:33:13.000 nothing left.

00:33:14.000 That's it.

00:33:15.000 The whole system collapses upon itself.

00:33:17.000 Isn't even more controversial, as controversial as that is, isn't Fisher, because I keep saying

00:33:22.000 that Nixon was removed by Sirica, the DOJ, and the House committees that are so radical.

00:33:28.000 Ex parte meetings, getting together, they had a roadmap of getting the federal judiciary

00:33:34.000 involved.

00:33:35.000 Isn't this going to explode, if this thing is overturned, to get to the bottom of what

00:33:40.000 Fisher was, of stopping a government event?

00:33:46.000 At its base, what they're talking about, that section of 1512 was part of Sarbanes-Oxley.

00:33:52.000 It was after Enron and Arthur Anderson.

00:33:55.000 And it was about the fact that you were not allowed to not produce, but you were effectively

00:34:02.000 documents.

00:34:03.000 You were not allowed to not produce documents, but effectively it was not outlawed.

00:34:06.000 Shredding was not outlawed. 0.66

00:34:07.000 So they passed this to outlaw shredding.

00:34:09.000 It was never meant to be applied as it has been applied.

00:34:12.000 And if you look at the history of Jack Smith, from everything he's done, from New York, to

00:34:19.000 participation in-

00:34:20.000 Virginia.

00:34:21.000 Virginia, to Bob McDonald.

00:34:22.000 To the international court thing over there.

00:34:24.000 Very questionable.

00:34:25.000 To the Hague.

00:34:26.000 Absolutely.

00:34:27.000 It's always been about overreach.

00:34:29.000 It's always been about overreach.

00:34:31.000 And the problem with that for them is that if 15, if Fisher goes the way that frankly

00:34:38.000 at now, I think you could say it's expected to go.

00:34:40.000 Because of the oral argument?

00:34:41.000 Because of the oral argument.

00:34:42.000 And because it's taken so long, too.

00:34:44.000 It's just debilitating.

00:34:47.000 Debilitating to, it takes away a huge section of that absolute canard of an attack against

00:34:53.000 President Trump in D.C., but it crushes all those other prosecutions.

00:34:58.000 And I think, again, it'll continue to expose weaponization.

00:35:01.000 You mentioned Nixon.

00:35:03.000 When they did that to Nixon, his approvals went down, right?

00:35:07.000 But we're seeing now, again, American people have taken the sunglasses, they've taken the 0.93

00:35:13.000 goggles off.

00:35:14.000 Trump's increasing.

00:35:15.000 And the weaponization is now driving a huge increase for President Trump.

00:35:20.000 Why?

00:35:21.000 Because the American people don't want to become Venezuela or the USSR in the 30s.

00:35:25.000 In Judge Cannon and what she's talking about, let's go back to the special prosecutor.

00:35:28.000 Let's leave Jack Smith out of it.

00:35:30.000 She's not talking about individual personalities.

00:35:32.000 She has structural concerns about what this entire thing is, right?

00:35:37.000 The special counsel and how it's paid for, the separation of powers, the appropriations.

00:35:42.000 It goes back to Morris v. Olsen.

00:35:44.000 So that's a famous case from the 80s.

00:35:46.000 And it was about the special counsel statute, the independent counsel statute.

00:35:50.000 And at that point, there was only one dissent.

00:35:53.000 It was Justice Scalia who said this is, again, a fourth branch of government.

00:35:56.000 The first guy in the administrative state.

00:35:58.000 Right now, that dissent has become effectively the Bible for truly conservative judges and

00:36:06.000 justices.

00:36:07.000 And the question she was asking is very simple.

00:36:10.000 Okay.

00:36:11.000 How is he appointed?

00:36:12.000 Is he independent?

00:36:14.000 And the problem, again, for the argument, and the attorney that had handled that case down

00:36:19.000 in Florida did not do a good job in the D.C. circuit and immunity.

00:36:22.000 And he didn't do a good job in Florida.

00:36:24.000 This is the one she had to correct a few times.

00:36:26.000 He contradicted himself because in D.C. they said, yes, yes, yes, totally independent.

00:36:31.000 But in Florida, they're saying, no, no, no.

00:36:33.000 It's fine because Merrick Garland oversees it.

00:36:35.000 Guess what?

00:36:36.000 Even they can't have it both ways.

00:36:38.000 And then on the money, she said, okay, what if the money gets cut off?

00:36:41.000 Well, we'll find funding.

00:36:42.000 Whoa.

00:36:43.000 What does that mean?

00:36:45.000 Fine.

00:36:46.000 You're going to do GoFundMe?

00:36:51.000 Like, what are you going to do?

00:36:52.000 What's the solution here?

00:36:55.000 So this was a very tough Friday, Monday, Tuesday.

00:37:00.000 Very tough days.

00:37:01.000 And then at the end of both Monday and Tuesday, Judge Cannon was, you know, very direct to one of the prosecutors.

00:37:08.000 And he was a little disrespectful saying that Harbaugh was disrespectful.

00:37:13.000 And then he had to apologize.

00:37:14.000 And, you know, she was very, very direct and specific and stern both days.

00:37:21.000 And here's the issue.

00:37:22.000 You've got the New York Times two articles a day playing the refs.

00:37:27.000 They're trying to do their Bobby Knight, as President Trump says, right?

00:37:29.000 They're trying to go not for this call but for the next call.

00:37:31.000 They're trying to work the refs. 1.00

00:37:33.000 But it's not working.

00:37:34.000 And it's not working, again, because overall the structural weaponization, and Steve, I talk about this all the time.

00:37:40.000 It's not about each specific case as much as it's about the whole house of cards.

00:37:44.000 And it's a rotten house of cards that's falling apart, and it's falling onto itself, including, obviously, the Georgia ridiculousness, because there's no cases. 0.96

00:37:54.000 These are ridiculous charges, each and every single one of them. 0.66

00:37:58.000 And where you have a fair judge, and that's all we ask for is fair judge, and Judge Cannon, they fall apart under their own weight.

00:38:04.000 What Smith was supposed to have almost a mini trial about him, about National Archives.

00:38:10.000 She pushed that back.

00:38:11.000 Until July.

00:38:12.000 What do you anticipate in that?

00:38:14.000 I mean, it could be July.

00:38:15.000 It could be later.

00:38:16.000 That is going to be about as explosive as you can get, right?

00:38:18.000 Because she's asking pointed questions about they're working with the National Archives.

00:38:22.000 They're working with the White House Counsel's Office.

00:38:25.000 How explosive could this be?

00:38:27.000 It could be extremely explosive because it'll, again, continue to expose what we know, which is there's no crime here.

00:38:34.000 This was just all one big conspiracy of entrapment against President Trump.

00:38:39.000 And it's there for anybody who has at least some version of clear vision to see.

00:38:46.000 And Judge Cannon has now shown the ability and interest to drill down on it.

00:38:52.000 And you're going to continue to see that.

00:38:54.000 You've had a long history with Jake Tapper, right?

00:38:57.000 My best friend.

00:38:58.000 Your besties.

00:38:59.000 We're always hanging out.

00:39:00.000 Tell me about tomorrow night.

00:39:01.000 What do you anticipate?

00:39:03.000 And do you like where we stand right now?

00:39:07.000 And I understand there have been changes made about, as you know, remember from the first debate at Hofstra in 16, we had the issue with the mic.

00:39:15.000 And they finally copped to the fact that the control room had an ability to control a mic.

00:39:20.000 President Trump picks it because he understands mics. 0.99

00:39:22.000 He understands lighting.

00:39:23.000 Right?

00:39:24.000 This guy knows TV.

00:39:25.000 Nobody else could do that, right?

00:39:26.000 From the stage.

00:39:27.000 From the stage.

00:39:28.000 It's unbelievable.

00:39:29.000 You can see how they kind of cut it.

00:39:31.000 What are your thoughts?

00:39:32.000 First off, let's go out big picture and then get down to the basic tactics.

00:39:37.000 Big picture.

00:39:39.000 This is a make or break moment for the illegitimate president, you know, who's a couple yards away.

00:39:48.000 Because there's a reason that the Democrats wanted it early now, right?

00:39:52.000 He's got to show them something.

00:39:54.000 And they're going to hop them up full of stuff, whatever it is they give them.

00:39:57.000 And you're going to see something.

00:39:58.000 But in the end, again, the American people are no longer fooled.

00:40:03.000 The American people are smart.

00:40:05.000 The American people are savvy.

00:40:07.000 And they're onto what the Democrats have been trying to sell them.

00:40:11.000 And, hey, we know they lost in 2020.

00:40:14.000 We know that they stole it.

00:40:16.000 And that was COVID and all the crazies around them.

00:40:19.000 Right now, the world's going on, right?

00:40:23.000 People out there living their lives.

00:40:25.000 And their lived experience is terrible.

00:40:27.000 Correct.

00:40:28.000 And their experience.

00:40:29.000 For Wall Street, for the lords of easy money, the tech oligarchs, life's never been better.

00:40:33.000 But even they're coming to President Trump.

00:40:35.000 And look what happened in San Francisco.

00:40:36.000 That's amazing.

00:40:37.000 And in New York.

00:40:38.000 And Paul Singer.

00:40:39.000 Right.

00:40:40.000 And the whole thing.

00:40:41.000 Business Roundtable.

00:40:42.000 Because they understand this is not sustainable.

00:40:43.000 The Business Roundtable meeting was so good they had to leak it, try to make it seem like it was...

00:40:47.000 Not a friend.

00:40:49.000 Right.

00:40:50.000 So, I think tomorrow is going to reinforce what we know and what the American people see.

00:40:59.000 Is that you have the clearest contrast we have ever had in the history of this country.

00:41:04.000 Of a decrepit, illegitimate, angry, absolutely divorced from reality, shadow of a human being in Biden.

00:41:12.000 And the strength and power of President Trump.

00:41:15.000 I think it's going to be full spectrum dominance.

00:41:17.000 I really do.

00:41:18.000 I hope, because you remember the debate in 20, when Joe Biden...

00:41:23.000 I've never seen this before.

00:41:25.000 And I hope they demand the tapes played.

00:41:28.000 When he looked the American people in the eye and bald-faced lied to them about the laptop from hell.

00:41:32.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:33.000 The information in there.

00:41:34.000 He told them, you know, you don't know what you're talking about. 1.00

00:41:36.000 You're a liar. 0.99

00:41:37.000 And there's nothing going on. 0.99

00:41:38.000 It had nothing to do with my son's business.

00:41:41.000 And that's all lies.

00:41:43.000 Russian disinformation.

00:41:44.000 Yeah, Russian disinformation.

00:41:45.000 How do you think that will play tomorrow?

00:41:47.000 I think he's been exposed.

00:41:49.000 The Biden crime family has been exposed.

00:41:52.000 And it happened in Delaware because of that tough judge.

00:41:55.000 It's going to happen again in California in a couple months.

00:41:58.000 The Democrats and the Bidens have nothing to offer the American people but lies.

00:42:04.000 And the president put out an amazing truth this morning.

00:42:08.000 Talk about all...

00:42:09.000 Oh, the Democrats are complaining about fact-checking.

00:42:12.000 Biden plagiarized.

00:42:13.000 He lied about his college education.

00:42:15.000 About his law school education.

00:42:16.000 He lied about...

00:42:17.000 Ripped off the speeches.

00:42:18.000 Ripped off the speeches.

00:42:19.000 From the British guy. 0.98

00:42:20.000 From the British. 0.99

00:42:21.000 He lied about being a trucker.

00:42:22.000 He lied about marching in the civil rights movement.

00:42:25.000 He lies about his handicap. 0.63

00:42:26.000 That guy says he's a 6.2 handicap.

00:42:28.000 No way.

00:42:29.000 If he's a 6...

00:42:30.000 First of all, what is a 6.2?

00:42:31.000 Where's the point to?

00:42:32.000 And if he's a 6.2 handicap, I'm a ballerina. 0.89

00:42:34.000 Yeah.

00:42:35.000 All right?

00:42:36.000 No way.

00:42:37.000 So, Joe Biden...

00:42:38.000 Maybe we should call him Lion Joe.

00:42:39.000 L-Y-I-N apostrophe Joe.

00:42:41.000 Lion Joe Biden is the champion of disinformation.

00:42:45.000 And are you going to try to see some of that tomorrow?

00:42:47.000 Yes.

00:42:48.000 If there's anybody who should be fact-checked, it's Biden.

00:42:50.000 Because him and his crime family have been lying to the American people for 50 years.

00:42:53.000 How many times has Joe Biden come in...

00:42:56.000 Because you're a deal guy and a financier.

00:42:58.000 How many times has Biden tomorrow used the term Bidenomics?

00:43:03.000 If they could drill it into him...

00:43:06.000 President Trump will.

00:43:07.000 If they could drill it into him, zero.

00:43:08.000 If he starts stumbling around talking about how he's hanging out with Helmut Kohl and Miniran

00:43:12.000 and him and FDR are having coffee together, who knows?

00:43:17.000 Who knows?

00:43:18.000 Do you anticipate he'll be jacked up?

00:43:19.000 President Trump's told he's going to be jacked up.

00:43:20.000 Do you think he'll be jacked up?

00:43:21.000 I think he's going to be jacked up.

00:43:22.000 I mean...

00:43:23.000 By the way, who takes seven days off?

00:43:25.000 Trump is hitting stuff every day, going to rallies, doing things.

00:43:28.000 Of course.

00:43:29.000 What guy takes seven days off to get ready for...

00:43:31.000 No conspiracies, no coincidence.

00:43:32.000 I'm going to just say, you know, maybe he needs the rest or whatever, the recovery.

00:43:36.000 What about the fact that he went to Europe, came back for 20 hours, then went back to Europe?

00:43:40.000 What is...

00:43:41.000 You know, again, none...

00:43:42.000 I mean, even the New York Times wrote a story.

00:43:44.000 And the White House wasn't too happy.

00:43:45.000 Oh, why are you asking us?

00:43:46.000 There's a reason we're asking, because there's something off.

00:43:49.000 And again, the American people are not going to be fooled.

00:43:52.000 And tomorrow, they're going to see a contrast, unlike we've ever seen President Trump on

00:43:56.000 full display.

00:43:57.000 Did Macron think, wish he hadn't come back?

00:44:00.000 I mean, talk about a cooler.

00:44:01.000 Yeah.

00:44:02.000 I'm going to get the stink right on that.

00:44:03.000 He's a crush.

00:44:04.000 Okay.

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00:47:46.000 Jillian, Barbary, thank you for joining us.

00:47:50.000 Now more than ever, you got to take you got to take the angst out of people's lives.

00:47:55.000 We understand tomorrow night you're going to see Biden on the talking, you know, his debate talking about Bidenomics.

00:48:01.000 People's lived experience are terrible.

00:48:03.000 Credit cards are one point three trillion dollars.

00:48:05.000 I think they're 10 percent nonperforming.

00:48:07.000 What can done with that?

00:48:08.000 How can that help solve the problems, man?

00:48:11.000 Good to see you, my friend.

00:48:13.000 I want to mention one thing.

00:48:14.000 Do they have the American flag bikinis? 1.00

00:48:16.000 Because I am definitely down for that.

00:48:19.000 I can afford that these days.

00:48:21.000 That's probably all I can afford.

00:48:23.000 People don't realize how bad things are, right?

00:48:26.000 It just happens that way when we are in a situation like we're in with gas, with groceries, with everything else.

00:48:34.000 I was in a pretty bad position a few years ago.

00:48:37.000 I'm never ashamed to talk about it.

00:48:39.000 It was pretty bad.

00:48:40.000 And friends from the last time I was on your show, Steve said to me, I didn't know that this happened to you.

00:48:46.000 And I said, well, it can happen to anyone.

00:48:49.000 If you trust a money manager, if you get sick, as I did with cancer, it was really bad.

00:48:55.000 And I didn't know that there was anyone out there that could help me.

00:48:59.000 I'm not going to ask friends.

00:49:00.000 I'm not going to ask family.

00:49:02.000 But there was a company called Done With Debt.

00:49:04.000 And so what they did was that sort of three-prong approach, right?

00:49:08.000 So they stopped the calls.

00:49:09.000 People, you know, we always say health over wealth.

00:49:12.000 And it's so true.

00:49:14.000 Because when the phone would ring or I'd go to the mailbox, I would freak out.

00:49:18.000 I was so bad that I had to go on the cuckoo pills.

00:49:21.000 You know what those are?

00:49:22.000 Antidepressants.

00:49:23.000 And everyone thought, oh, it's probably because of the cancer.

00:49:26.000 And I'm like, little do you know.

00:49:29.000 So it affects people's lives.

00:49:31.000 I was a single mom, two kids, no child support.

00:49:34.000 I was working two jobs in the radio business and on HSN.

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00:49:41.000 And so what they do is they scoop in.

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00:49:56.000 I would do chemo and be freaking out the rest of the time.

00:49:59.000 And I knew behind the scenes they were tackling it for me.

00:50:02.000 What does that mean?

00:50:03.000 Well, they're running interference with all of that noise, right?

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00:51:05.000 Jillian Barbary, great. 1.00

00:51:07.000 We love it when you come on here.

00:51:08.000 Keep fighting.

00:51:09.000 And we will check with Steve Stern about that bikini.

00:51:11.000 How about that?

00:51:12.000 We'll do that.

00:51:13.000 I got that for action.

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00:51:16.000 Thank you, ma'am.

00:51:17.000 Mike Lindell, we got one of your favorite people here.

00:51:19.000 Boris, first of all, Boris, are you coming in hot on the gram or you're not posting?

00:51:22.000 I'm kind of cold.

00:51:23.000 Some people said cold on the gram.

00:51:24.000 No, no, no.

00:51:25.000 It's so cold it's hot.

00:51:26.000 It's so cold it's hot.

00:51:27.000 It's hot on the gram.

00:51:28.000 I'm hot.

00:51:29.000 It's hot.

00:51:30.000 We're hot.

00:51:31.000 Social media, where do they go?

00:51:32.000 First of all, honor to be with you.

00:51:33.000 Honor to be with the posse.

00:51:34.000 Thank you for having me.

00:51:35.000 Amazing to be here.

00:51:36.000 Amazing.

00:51:37.000 Great interview.

00:51:38.000 Social media, BorisCP.com's website.

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00:51:46.000 Stay strong.

00:51:47.000 God bless.

00:51:48.000 And we'll talk to you soon.

00:51:49.000 I just want to make sure this is not a wake.

00:51:50.000 Boris was in town.

00:51:51.000 I said, you got to come by.

00:51:52.000 You look like a million bucks.

00:51:53.000 It's an honor.

00:51:54.000 Mike Lindell, you got Boris here.

00:51:55.000 First off, real quickly, tell me about this massive thing that's happening up in Wisconsin,

00:52:00.000 sir, and why it's important for President Trump in 2024.

00:52:03.000 Absolutely.

00:52:04.000 You know, when I got into this, I started getting uniparty blockers everywhere.

00:52:07.000 And we tried to recall back in the day, Rusty Bowers in Arizona.

00:52:11.000 Well, now we've gotten very good at it.

00:52:13.000 We didn't give up.

00:52:14.000 And we got old Robin Voss.

00:52:16.000 There is going to be a recall election now on August 6th.

00:52:20.000 And everyone that fought there, I did so many speeches over there and got the people involved

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00:52:28.000 Colonel Conrad, the great Michael, Justice Michael Gabelman, Will Huff, all of them.

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00:52:33.000 And we got it done.

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00:52:47.000 And I'll tell you, Boris, Robin Voss has to go.

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00:53:01.000 And that was what Robin was all about.

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00:53:49.000 Thank you so much for dropping off.

00:53:50.000 Thank you for having me.

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Bannon's War Room - June 26, 2024

Episode 3714： Weak Rulings From SCOTUS; Fact Checking Biden For The Debate

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