Episode 3715： Democrats Lose Grip On Democracy Narrative
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Trump's former campaign manager and chief White House strategist will become Federal inmate No. 05635509 on Monday morning. That is unless the Supreme Court intervenes, which it could do at any moment. Today, the Department of Justice formally urged the high court not to intervene here and to let Mr. Bannon face accountability for his actions. But remarkably, the Justice Department isn t the only group that has lobbied the court about Steve Bannon.
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as Steve Bannon. But on Monday, Trump's former campaign manager and chief White House strategist
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will become federal inmate number 05635509. Having already lost his case and his first
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appeal, Bannon is expected to report to a federal prison in Connecticut on Monday morning. That is
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unless the Supreme Court intervenes, which it could do at any moment. Today, the Department
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of Justice formally urged the high court not to intervene here and to let Mr. Bannon face
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accountability for his actions. But remarkably, the Justice Department isn't the only group that
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lobbied the court about Steve Bannon today. Mr. Speaker, I understand there might be a change
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in position regarding the House and their stance on the January 6th committee, and it might be
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regarding Steve Bannon, and it may have a big impact on on his contempt case. Tell me what's
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going on. Yeah, we're working on following an amicus brief and his appellate work there in
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his case. Today, Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson and several other Republican members
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of the House voted to make the formal position of the U.S. House of Representatives, the formal
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position that the January 6th committee did not have the authority to do the work that it
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did, and that therefore Steve Bannon should not have to go to prison. To step back here for some
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context, remember that the reason Steve Bannon is headed to prison in the first place is because
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he refused to comply with the subpoena from the January 6th committee. That's despite clearly knowing
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a lot about January 6th and the plan to overturn Biden's win in Congress. Just to refresh your memory,
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here was Mr. Bannon the day before the attack on the Capitol.
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Tomorrow morning, look, what's going to happen, we're going to have at the ellipse,
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President Trump speaks at 11, we're going to be live at 10, we've got a lot more news and analysis
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of exactly what's going to go into the day. I'll tell you this, it's not going to happen like you
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think it's going to happen, okay? It's going to be quite extraordinarily different, and all I can say
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is strap in. The war room, a posse, you have made this happen, and tomorrow it's game day.
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Strap in, tomorrow it's game day. Today, the Washington Post and George Mason University
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are out with new polling that asked voters in six key swing states who they trusted more when
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it came to protecting our democracy, Joe Biden or Donald Trump. And somehow, Donald Trump came out
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on top. 44% of voters in those six swing states trust Trump over Biden to protect democracy.
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In Arizona, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Georgia, 44% of voters trust Donald
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Trump. The man who incited the attack on the Capitol, the man who calls the January 6 rioters
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hostages, and more to the point, the man who tried to subvert democracy and steal our last
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presidential election by force. But somehow, somehow, more voters in the swing states that
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will likely decide this election trust Donald Trump over Joe Biden when it comes to defending
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our democracy. That poll is confounding. But it also highlights a dark reality, and one
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that we have to wrestle with to understand what is really happening in our nation's politics
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right now. The big lie is working. Not everywhere and not all the time. But Donald Trump and his
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Republican boosters in Congress and the right-wing media, they have all successfully sold a sizable
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portion of the American public, not just on the lie that the 2020 election was rigged, but that people
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like Donald Trump and Steve Bannon are victims. And that they, Trump and Bannon, are the defenders
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of freedom, fighting against an unseen fascist cabal. As preposterous as it may seem, that lie,
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based on grievance rather than the actual truth, well, that lie really seems to have found an audience.
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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I got a free shot, all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it.
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I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
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but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie? Mega Media. I wish in my soul,
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I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my
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purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Thursday, 27 June, in the year of our Lord, 2024, in a historic week. Of course,
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a lot going today. Debate, everything. We're going to go to the Supreme Court. But
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I got to tell you, I think while I'm away, I think while I'm away, we've got a new cold open for the
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show. That was about as perfect as you can get. She hit every beat. And a hat tip to Alex Wagner.
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She is the only, I believe, person over at MSNBC or CNN that dealt with that poll. We're going to
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get into a lot more on this whole thing, democracy and democracy dies in darkness. And, you know,
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Biden is practicing all week. And the big thing they're talking about,
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if you follow their debate prep is democracy, the defender of democracy. Hello. When you look at the
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swing states, voters, Washington Post poll, President Trump's crushing him on being the
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defender of democracy. And with independent voters, I think it's a 13 point spread. Huge. We'll get back to
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it. Alex Wagner does it last night. We'll have more of that show a little later. We're going to
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go to the Supreme Court. The historic day, even before the debate, is what's happening in the
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Supreme Court. Mike Davis joins us. Mike, do we know anything right now?
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We have a couple cases that have just come out by Justice Gorsuch, my former boss. One of them
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is an EPA case where the Supreme Court in a five to four ruling with Gorsuch, the Chief Justice,
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Justice Alito, Justice Thomas, and Kavanaugh. And then Barrett wrote a dissenting opinion. Justice
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Barrett wrote a dissenting opinion with the three liberals, a five to four decision where the Supreme
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Court held that the EPA must stay its process under the Clean Air Act. The states, the federal government
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is supposed to work with the states, and the states are supposed to work with each other as they come up
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with clean air regulations. Well, the federal government, of course, tried to bigfoot the states
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and didn't follow the Clean Air Act. And so the Supreme Court in a five to four decision just
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stayed the enforcement of a new part of the Clean Air Act.
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I want to put it in perspective, Mike. This is part of the five, I think, administrative state
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decisions. And this is what Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are kind of known as experts in. It's really their
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line of work as far as legal theory. Correct me if I'm wrong here, brother. Not a good
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sign, Kony Barrett. Not a good sign, Kony Barrett. Once again, not on the side of the angels, sir?
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Well, here's the deal with Justice Amy Kony Barrett. She is a very cautious former law professor.
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And I think the issue for her was this was a, it was an order, it was an injunction as opposed to a
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decision on the merits, right? So I think Justice Amy Kony Barrett at times is very cautious. I would
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say a rattled law professor at times who can't make decisions, but sometimes they, these law professors
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get rattled and they don't want to make tough decisions. They don't want to rock the boat. You
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know, sometimes it's really hard with your lifetime tenure and pay protection. It's still hard for some
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who get rattled, these nutty professors to do their damn jobs. So Justice Barrett is in law professor mode.
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Why is this for the administrative state? And we're waiting for the Mac daddy, which is the
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Chevron deference. But these cases, why is this important for kind of the MAGA movement and this
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redirection of America, particularly about this? We've talked about limited government for a long time.
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We've talked about getting federal spending down. Everything has failed. It just grows more and more.
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And it grows more into your, into your citizen's life every day. What is Gorsuch's theory of the case?
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Why are these cases important? And why, where, where does this EPA case fit into that mosaic?
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Yeah. So this is what we've been talking about on the war room for several years now. Our constitution
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is a loan agreement between we, the people and our governments. And we, the people loan our
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governments, the federal government, state governments, tribal governments, specific
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enumerated and divided powers. Congress has the power to legislate. The executive branch has the power
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to enforce the laws and the judiciary has the power to decide cases and controversies. And the problem is
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over the last, you know, 70 years, these administrative agencies not only have taken all the powers from
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the states and the people, as confirmed by the 10th amendment, they just grabbed all these powers the
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federal government does not have. Then they've made it worse by consolidating all of the federal powers
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into these unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats called the administrative state, the Tony Fauci's
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of the world, where you have, uh, you know, you have these doctors and scientists and career
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officials who think it's their job to make policy decisions on behalf of the American people instead
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of our elected members of Congress. And this Supreme Court understands that, you know, starting with
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FDR, the Constitution has been turned on its head from a shield that protects the American people
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from the government into a sword the government uses to come after us. And that is going to be
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the project of this constitutionalist Supreme Court. Thank you, President Trump, over the next 20 years,
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is to reverse that, to put the, put the, put the federal government back in its proper place
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under the Constitution and to make sure that these, the executive branch has executive power and not,
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I, I want, we hear people, politicians all the time on TV hits, uh, in, on speeches talk about federalism,
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devolving things back to the states. That's what, when we talk about the administrative state,
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it's deconstructing at the federal level. And to the degree those powers are necessary, get them back to the states
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and have the government in a much smaller capacity, work with them. You talk about a 20 year project
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with these young judges. That's why you're starting with these cases. Remember, we had one, I think,
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West Virginia, a year ago. Now you got four or five, including the Mac Daddy, the Chevron
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deference. In your thinking, as you see it right now, do you see a consistency with the majority,
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including Chief Justice Roberts, which I'm glad he's, he's joined this posse, about their thinking
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about the administrative state and how to deconstruct it from a judicial aspect, sir?
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Yeah, I think there are three camps on the court. There's the Thomas Alito Gorsuch camp, who would
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follow the constitution today and let the chips fall where they may. You have the Chief Justice
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and Justice Kavanaugh and Justice Barrett, who are more incremental, but they're still largely with
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us. And then you have the three leftist women on the court who that they are just political actors
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and they like political results. If the result is pro left, pro Democrat, they're going to vote for it.
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And if the result is not pro left, not pro Democrat, they're going to vote against it because they're
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So then I want to get to, in fact, let's go there now. I think we've got time. Justice Alito's,
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you finally had time to take a look at it. He was, he was, he was pretty worked up in his dissent
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yesterday, sir, on Facebook. Yeah, he should be. And I've had a chance to go back and read that
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opinion. And I would say this, this, that these judges will come up with these tricks and games
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that they play to avoid making tough decisions when the political pressure is applied. And the Biden
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regime put political pressure on the Supreme Court because the Biden regime wants to have
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disinformation and misinformation police that they can politicize and weaponize and deploy to come
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after conservatives and others with whom they disagree. And what the Supreme Court did yesterday
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is they found an out. You had Justice Barrett, this rattled law professor, and she's conservative,
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no doubt, but she's just rattled. And she sometimes she likes to navel gaze and overthink things. And so she
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came up with this opinion that said that these, what, five individuals in these two states did not
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have standing, meaning that they didn't have injury in fact or ongoing injury in fact, in order for the
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court to uphold the injunction that the lower courts put in place, stopping the Biden administration
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from working with trillion dollar big tech monopolist like Facebook that gets Section 230 immunity from
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the government, that gets antitrust amnesty from the government, that gets these government grants.
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And so these big tech platforms like Facebook, of course, say, how high do you want us to jump
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when the Biden White House and the Biden disinformation weirdos call over to Facebook and say,
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hey, we need to censor this doctor on the right because he disagrees with Father Fauci?
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dealing with the administrative state. Sir, can you walk us through it?
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Another very big case out of the Supreme Court, and another win for the Constitution,
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6-3 with the Chief Justice writing the opinion. Justice Barrett found her backbone. That's good.
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6-3 decision where the Supreme Court held that the Securities and Exchange Commission,
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which is supposed to be this executive branch agency, but it is this weird independent agency
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that, well, they're not independent. They think they are, but they have what are called
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administrative law judges, which are essentially federal bureaucrats who pretend like they're
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judges. And they use these ALJs, administrative law judges, to decide their cases within the SEC,
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to impose fines on people. And they do this without a jury under the Seventh Amendment to the Constitution.
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They also do this when they're not judges. They're executive branch employees. They're not even
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appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The Supreme Court said they can't do this,
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that this is unconstitutional for executive branch employees to pretend like they're judges. They're
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trans judges, apparently. And they also, if you want to be a judge, you have to get nominated by
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the President and confirmed by the Senate and supported by the Article III project so you don't get
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clobbered. But these ALJs just don't cut it. So a huge, huge monumental case in the 20-year effort to
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deconstruct the administrative state. And I would say this, we may be disappointed from judges from
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time to time, like Justice Amy Coney Barrett, being a rattled law professor when the cases aren't perfect
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Who is the lead opinion? Is this all Gorsuch and Alito people that have, as you know, Justice
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Thomas, but he never had any backup. And now you're seeing Justice Roberts. I think what's so incredible
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here is that the initial, you know, with West Virginia happening, and now you get two big wins
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today on the administrative state. It's, it's, it's, it's directionally, I like it. And I particularly
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like who's signing up for the opinions and getting six to three decisions, sir.
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Yeah. And I would say that, look, I've said this all along, the Chief Justice is not liberal,
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right? He's not even moderate. He's conservative. He's just too incremental for my liking. And he's too
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small p political, meaning he cares about being incremental. He cares about the optics. He cares
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that, you know, we don't, we don't anger people too much that we do this slowly and incrementally.
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And Kavanaugh to a lesser extent and Barrett to a lesser extent are in that chiefy camp, but make,
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make no mistake. This is certainly a six to three constitutionalist Supreme Court. And that is
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because President Trump transformed that Supreme Court and elections matter.
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Yeah. And there's more coming. That's about Sotomayor. Let's go back for our audience that
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maybe doesn't trade stocks or not involved in capital markets, don't deal with the SEC.
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Why are the alphabet agencies, when we talk about the administrative state, we're talking about expansion
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of powers of cabinet, of the cabinet officers and, and, and, you know, Department of Agriculture,
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Interior, Interior, all that. But as importantly, you're talking about these alphabet agencies that
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have kind of come out of nowhere and metastasized to really drive the Leviathan. For the average
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schmo in the streets that doesn't trade stocks, why, why is this administrative, why is the SEC case
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important in their lives? Yeah, because these SEC bureaucrats purport to regulate Wall Street,
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right? And they do this through what they think is an independent agency. If you're an executive
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branch agency and you think you're independent of the president of the United States who's elected to
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run the executive branch, then your agency is unconstitutional. We'll get there eventually over
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the next 20 years. But the bigger problem is, is these agencies were set up to be insulated from
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some accountability. They were, they were set up to be insulated from the president of the United States
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in Congress and courts. And that's the very definition of tyranny. Not only are they taking
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power that the federal government does not have under the Constitution, they have consolidated all of that
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power into people who are not accountable to the American people, namely the president of the United States
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and are elected members of Congress. And I would say this, that they've done this on purpose because
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it's hard to legislate. It's intentionally hard to legislate. That's what our founders wanted because
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legislation takes away our liberties. And so if you're going to legislate, you need to have
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the House pass it. You need to have a supermajority in the Senate usually pass it and the president
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has to sign it. Well, you could bypass all that if you're a leftist and just set up an
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administrative agency with the Tony Fauci's of the world. And they're not accountable
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to anyone and they can write their own laws and they can enforce their own laws and they can adjudicate
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their own laws. And then they get Chevron deference. Even if the, even if they, even if we, a judge
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disagrees that the SEC or one of these other unconstitutional agencies is grabbing too much power,
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as long as, you know, as long as a court says, yeah, that seems reasonable, then we're supposed to
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So on MSNBC, CNN, New York Times, everything, all they're doing is hitting, this is the radicalization,
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the Trumpification of the court to really, you know, destroy the government. And they're going
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to take apart the government where Project 2025 and Bannon and these J6ers couldn't do. The radical
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court is now going to do. That's what makes yesterday most disturbing. Can you go back and
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just set the table? How big were the stakes in this Missouri case, particularly as our audiences,
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our audience feeds on information. They love information. They want to immerse themselves
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in information. Why was yesterday such an important case? And why did the, the, the Supreme Court look
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like it blinked? It just didn't want to handle it pre a 2024 election, if I could be so bold, sir.
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Yeah. Well, look, I would say this. I don't think as, as big as of a, of a loss as people think,
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because I don't think they decided the case on them. There, there's some merits to the case because
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of how they looked at standing, but this, this is not over. And I don't think people should say,
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okay, we're done. Big tech can censor silence, de-platform and cancel us. This is far from over.
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I think that the three, uh, the, the three, uh, the three, uh, the three, uh, I'll be kind here.
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The three, uh, the three conservatives who joined the three liberal hens and in a six to three decision
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and said that, Hey, it's okay that, uh, Joe Biden and his misinformation and disinformation czars are
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censoring, silencing, de-platforming and canceling doctors who ended up being right on COVID. I mean,
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think about this. How many people unnecessarily got locked up and died because of these, these bogus
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COVID measures by Tony Fauci, because Tony Fauci was trying to cover up the fact that he funded
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COVID in the Wuhan lab illegally. He lied about it. He covered it up. He purged himself in front of
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Congress. And, and then they put Tony Fauci in charge of the response to the disaster that he
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created this pandemic. He created that killed millions of people and destroyed the entire
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world's economy and destroyed our lives. And then if you question question this little mad scientist,
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this corrupt little monster that you get, you get, you get canceled from Facebook. And I,
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I got kicked off of Twitter twice for questioning Tony Fauci. I worked with 20 Tony Fauci over
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20 years ago, right? I know what a little bastard this guy is. And then you're going to have some,
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you know, some trans weirdo with purple hair in the, in the Biden White House censor you hell no
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wake up on Amy Coney Barrett and Kavanaugh and, and the chief justice. I know that she's a rattled
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law professor and, and, you know, Kavanaugh and the chief justice live in Chevy chase and, you know,
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maybe at the Chevy chase country club where they're still wearing COVID masks and flying their Ukraine
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flags. Maybe this is what they think is normal. We're trying to save Kavanaugh from assassination.
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Come on, brother. No, um, real quickly, you're going to be there. We've had three, but we still got
00:26:41.600
10 or 11 ago. What does that is, are they signaling right now? They're going to put out any more today,
00:26:46.600
or are they telling you that they're going to go into next week and drop some of maybe even the bigger
00:26:51.260
ones that won't be tomorrow, Mike? Well, what's your, I know you're speculating, but what's your
00:26:54.340
educated guess? Well, I'm on the air, so I haven't had a chance to look at if other cases have come
00:27:00.600
out. One more has come out. What is it? It's some case no one cares about, but I would say this,
00:27:07.060
that, uh, the, the fact that the Supreme court has not set another, they had a conference last
00:27:15.200
Thursday where they meet in private and talk about these cases. They have not set another conference.
00:27:21.260
So they didn't set a conference this week and there's nothing set yet for next week. And so
00:27:25.880
the fact that they have not set another conference indicates to me that they're done. They're just
00:27:31.700
waiting to put out these opinions. I could be wrong. Uh, usually I'm not, but, uh, I would imagine
00:27:37.620
that all the cases are going to come out tomorrow. It could bleed into next week, but I'll tell you
00:27:41.960
what, uh, the end of June is like a high holy, uh, you know, a high holiday around the Supreme court.
00:27:48.020
But they want to get the hell out of town. Yeah. Yeah. Hang on for a second, Mike. We're
00:27:53.000
going to come right back to you. We'll figure out what the Supreme court's doing. And if not,
00:27:55.980
we'll get you over here to the studio. Mike Davis, the intrepid viceroy of DC or the soon
00:28:02.540
to be viceroy of DC on the afternoon of 20 January, 2025 is with us at the Supreme court. Much
00:28:08.780
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Okay. Can we go back to another case that's dropped to the Supreme Court? This one kind
00:29:31.080
of got previewed, uh, last night, inadvertently quote unquote online. Another big one, uh, Mike
00:29:36.920
Davis, uh, you're there, Idaho abortion emergency services. What do you got?
00:29:42.100
So this is the case where after the Dobbs decision, the, uh, and there's no federal constitutional
00:29:51.280
right to an abortion. Obviously, everyone's known that for 50 years. It's just a made up
00:29:56.060
right in row that the Supreme Court finally said, this is an issue for the states. What
00:30:01.040
they are doing now is they're trying to use EMTALA, a federal statute that deals with emergency
00:30:07.200
medicine to, uh, to resurrect a federal right to abortion. And the Supreme Court granted certs
00:30:15.380
on a, I, an Idaho case dealing with this because abortion activists in Idaho didn't like the
00:30:21.200
fact that Idaho has largely outlawed abortion. The Supreme Court granted the case. And then
00:30:28.380
the Supreme Court just dismissed the case and said that we should not have granted the case.
00:30:34.380
It's, it's just another punt. So, uh, that's where we are on. So, so, so, so, but hang on real
00:30:40.340
quickly, the left, because number one, how did this get leaked? Mike, this is the Supreme Court
00:30:45.680
of the United States. And I, I've got some pattern recognition here. Anything associated with abortion
00:30:50.860
gets illegally leaked. So I'm not buying that this inadvertently got set up on their website.
00:30:59.140
I have to be careful about this because I actually know the people in the PIO office. Um, I don't know
00:31:07.200
who's in there now. I know that Mark Joseph Stearns spouse used to work for the PIO. That spouse has
00:31:13.600
since moved on to a different job because I exposed this spouse and what a partisan hack this spouse is.
00:31:20.260
I don't know who they've hired in the PIO now. Uh, I don't know. I, I, look, I think it's very fair
00:31:27.500
to say it's, it's amazing that it's, it's these abortion cases that magically leak out of the Supreme
00:31:34.860
Court. You can, you can say what you said. I don't, I can't, I don't disagree. I don't disagree
00:31:42.520
Okay, fine. I'm just, I'm just noticing a paragraph. Okay. Now, so the MSNBC, CNN, the
00:31:48.040
Times, WAPO, they're all saying this was high politics because they want to take the heat off
00:31:53.200
Trump and they want to take the heat off of MAGA and they want to take the heat off the
00:31:56.420
conservative movement in the run-ups of 2024 by kind of giving them a little thing, giving them
00:32:01.200
a taste on, uh, on abortion. Yet they've got other cases that are, that are teed up that are coming
00:32:07.900
that will, that will even crush abortion rights even more. Is that just left-wing madness on MSNBC?
00:32:14.840
Yeah, I, I know the chief justice and I, I've never seen him wear a MAGA hat. So I, I just,
00:32:20.500
I don't think that that's the case, that there are a bunch of Trump cheerleaders inside the Supreme
00:32:26.560
Court. I think that's kind of one of those crazy conspiracy theories that they always accuse
00:32:31.420
Trump supporters of having. That's utter insanity. I, I think they took this case and realized
00:32:37.880
that they, maybe they're going to make the case law worse by deciding this case. They have
00:32:43.420
discretionary review, meaning they don't have to take cases generally and they dismiss cases if,
00:32:50.700
if they shouldn't have taken the case. It doesn't happen very often. It happens a couple times at
00:32:54.320
term though. Um, so the headline today, if you want the signal, not the noise, is that Trump's election
00:33:02.200
in 2016 really led to a intellectual revolution and really action oriented on deconstructing the
00:33:09.040
administrative state led by essentially a legal scholar or, or, or a judge that brings a big brain
00:33:15.380
to this, Neil Gorsuch. And today in, and yesterday shows you that the deconstruction administrative
00:33:21.160
state is not simply ongoing project at the court, but it's uniting the, the, the, what you call the
00:33:28.060
moderates with the conservatives. It seems like something that can unite, uh, the, the, what is
00:33:33.680
the, the center in the, in the right of the court. Am I incorrect in any of that? Yes. Other than I
00:33:40.400
wouldn't call moderates, I would say the institutionalist, or I would say the coward,
00:33:44.420
sometimes the institutionalist versus the constant versus the, the constitutionalist. And I would say
00:33:50.360
that, uh, yeah, yeah, exactly. Justice Gorsuch, my former boss is certainly the tip of the spear
00:33:57.040
on all this. And you have to remember with the court, they're incremental, uh, with the three
00:34:02.080
institutionists, with the chief justice, Kavanaugh and Barrett. And as the law changes and the politics
00:34:10.140
change, uh, they feel more comfortable, uh, uh, moving more and more and more. And that's why the
00:34:15.680
article three project is doing what we're doing is to make sure that the politics is right. Because
00:34:21.100
these judges have lifetime tenure. They have pay protection. They're not supposed to care about
00:34:25.320
the politics, but I know a lot of federal judges all over the country and, uh, you know, providing
00:34:30.280
political cover for tough decisions very much helps. How do people get to, uh, to article three,
00:34:37.480
where do they go? Cause you've been at the tip of the spear of this for many years, beginning in
00:34:42.280
Trump, uh, the Trump first term. Yeah. Article three project.org article number three project.org.
00:34:50.420
You can take action there. You can follow us on social media and you can donate there. And thank
00:34:55.880
you, Steve. Is, is Posovic over there hawking that book? We had to run, he's here for the second
00:35:01.640
hour, but he's he hawking the book in front of the Supreme court. Doesn't he understand there's
00:35:04.520
certain areas of DC that are civic, you know, almost the civic high religion. You're not supposed
00:35:09.380
to be hawking, uh, books outside of the Supreme court. Does, does, does, does, does Poso get that?
00:35:14.100
Well, he, he, he did take a picture with me and promised to sign the book after I bought
00:35:20.220
two of them. So yes, Mike Davis, you're the best. See you later in the day. Thank you,
00:35:28.000
sir. Thank you. So the big blockbusters are either going to be tomorrow or, or, or Friday.
00:35:34.360
A takeaway politically is that the Fisher case, I would actually say Chevron deference. It
00:35:40.980
will give president Trump a lot of ammo taking on Biden, this big spending, but you
00:35:45.380
got Chevron deference, which is the Mac daddy, the administrative of, uh, the administrative
00:35:49.260
state. You've got, um, Fisher, which I happen to think will be a blockbuster decision, particularly
00:35:55.700
if it goes, uh, if it goes our way. Um, and then you've got the immunity, even unlimited
00:36:01.040
immunity. So you have three massive cases, cases. It looks like they're holding for tomorrow.
00:36:05.640
And I think it's political not to put them out today, uh, cause it can be incorporated
00:36:10.780
into the debate tonight, but not, I don't know if it's going to come tomorrow or Monday. Uh,
00:36:15.280
they haven't made any announcements. Normally they finished by the end of June, unless it's
00:36:18.400
extraordinary. And they still have my count. They still have, I think nine. We had 13 going
00:36:24.380
in today. I'm looking at my trustee associate, my trusted associates here. Um, so big takeaway.
00:36:30.480
Remember when we talk about the budget, when we talk about spending, we talk about this
00:36:35.440
new bondage and slavery of federal spending and fiscal and monetary mismanagement. It
00:36:41.620
gets back to feeding the beast, the Leviathan. A lot of people talk about the Leviathan, every
00:36:46.540
politician that we're going to cut government and never gets cut. This is why this two prong
00:36:50.940
attack with what we call project 2025, but all the other groups from Stephen Miller's, uh,
00:36:56.440
you know, American first legal to the folks down at Texas, American first policy to,
00:37:00.480
uh, Russ vote all working on putting in folks that will start to help deconstruct this from
00:37:07.020
the, from the executive in the legislative side. You see up there right now, a ton of not just
00:37:12.000
freedom caucus, but other people that are sitting there going, how do we start to on a legislative
00:37:16.480
basis, start to take it apart using the appropriations process. Okay. And also later on,
00:37:22.920
let me have you write something down. Cause it'd be quite big next year. Authorizations,
00:37:27.460
it's authorization. We've spent all this time in defense authorization. We know most of these
00:37:31.500
agencies and most of these in cabinet, uh, level departments have not been authorized as they're
00:37:36.540
supposed to be. I think every five years, that is going to get to be a big issue in the future of
00:37:40.220
going back and let's authorize the FBI. Let's authorize the DOJ and let's see how far off they've
00:37:45.740
come. The legal part of it is absolutely important because it's been so embedded into federal law. So
00:37:51.820
when you want to talk about shrinking the government, when you want to talk about taking
00:37:55.600
down Leviathan, it just can't be talk. It's got to be action. And that's what you're seeing today.
00:37:59.460
And where did that action come from, came from political power. This was the great, um, part of
00:38:05.620
the revolution that president Trump brought in. This is why people like the MSNBC, CNN, uh, New York
00:38:11.080
times, watch the post that have had a grip on the federal judiciary and the federal bench for so long.
00:38:16.460
So, and they live and breathe this, this is their baby. This is, this is, uh, this is more sacred to
00:38:22.100
them than the, than the white house. It's more sacred to them than Congress, the judiciary is
00:38:26.440
everything. You know, you see the Andrew Weissman's and these guys on TV all the time. They worship
00:38:30.580
here. Uh, and that is why it's so important. This is where our fight is. They're going to be going nuts
00:38:35.140
today. And that's what even out the Chevron deference. They'll take it. And like Mike Davis said,
00:38:40.200
it's a 20 year project to deconstruct this, but man, are we off to a banger start. Just couldn't be
00:38:45.640
more excited how this has come together. The right justices, the right, uh, confirmation process.
00:38:51.920
People had every opportunity to wave off and they didn't. So it's really coming together. Do we have,
00:38:56.840
uh, maybe I'll wait for the D block to play, uh, Vaughn Hilliard, Vaughn Hilliard, uh, not Vaughn
00:39:01.320
Hilliard, uh, the time magazine correspondent. I think that's a six minute hit. So I think I want
00:39:06.260
to play its entirety because it's a shout out to the war room posse. And here's, so here's what
00:39:10.700
happened last night on MSNBC. Alex Wagner went back and she connected that's, we'd actually
00:39:16.120
done this during the day here. So I'm really impressed that MSNBC did it. The Washington
00:39:20.360
Post came out with a unbelievable poll. And what they did is they went in because Biden
00:39:28.280
has made this such a centerpiece of his, of his presidency and his argument against Trump.
00:39:33.640
And if you've, if you followed what they've been practicing, remember Biden has been up
00:39:39.100
at Camp David for almost a week now by tonight, it'll be a week. And he's running two a days.
00:39:45.120
Remember in high school football, if you ever played sports, we're running two a days, they're
00:39:49.040
running two a days up there of practice sessions. And I think a guy's president of the United
00:39:53.060
States. Of course we know he's illegitimate, but he's, he's, he's sleep. He does sleepovers
00:39:57.340
at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. That guy needs a week, needs a week to stop doing any work
00:40:04.360
and actually go up there and learn what you're supposed to learn or figure out how they prop
00:40:08.280
you up or jack you up. One of the big things they're talking about, and this was on the
00:40:14.080
media yesterday in CNN, is that one of his biggest thing is that he's a protector of democracy
00:40:19.780
and Trump is an anti-democratic fascist. And the MAGA mob, right, which has these, these
00:40:26.780
horrible people like Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon and Alex Jones and Jack Posobiec and
00:40:32.020
Charlie Kirk and Real America's Voice and, uh, all these other pockets, Alex Bruce
00:40:36.660
Woods and Laura Loomer and all these crazies continue to feed misinformation and disinformation.
00:40:41.560
Oh yeah, that was the case yesterday. Misinformation and disinformation to feed this, this, this poor
00:40:48.180
group of, uh, of basically, uh, not terribly bright deplorables into this, into this mob where
00:40:54.720
the anti-democratic forces, you know, don't worry about, we're the ones that fight to make
00:40:59.960
sure you can't have warrantless FISA, that you can't, uh, use your jack boots on the FBI
00:41:04.040
to kick down doors of, of anybody. Uh, forget that we fight for that, for liberty and freedom
00:41:09.540
every day. Uh, it's, you know, it gets back to, uh, you know, Maxine Walters yesterday when
00:41:14.760
they caught her lying. And this is Laura Loomer's group. They caught her lying about President Trump.
00:41:20.380
If he's reelected, millions of people are going to die. And she says it all the time to scare
00:41:24.780
people. Her response was, I never said that. What I said is Bannon got to him and, you know,
00:41:28.820
he's talking to Bannon and Bannon telling him to play the race card, to play the race card
00:41:33.960
just starts out. That's the old school. That's the way they used to do it. When you only had a
00:41:38.160
couple of TV networks, maybe one or two cable channels and, uh, and a couple of big papers
00:41:42.740
that could work. Can't work now. Didn't work with Hillary Clinton. Remember she came off the beach,
00:41:47.040
uh, to go to Reno. When I took over, I was running Breitbart, took over the Trump campaign
00:41:51.620
and they had the Reno speech and, you know, alt-right and white nationalists and white supremacists.
00:41:56.040
And I sat there with the team. I go, Hey, if this is what she's going to talk about for the last
00:41:59.480
hundred days, she's going to talk about that. And president Trump's going to talk about bringing
00:42:02.940
jobs back, sealing the border, stopping illegal aliens from competing for jobs for against African
00:42:09.280
Americans and Hispanic families. And we go up to the upper Midwest. We talk about how China
00:42:13.920
has gutted, how wall street working with China and big tech have gutted all the high value
00:42:18.060
added manufacturers. I think I've got, I bet the American people might go for that. Guess what?
00:42:24.820
Spoiler alert. They did. Merrick Garland ain't on the Supreme court and Hillary Clinton never got,
00:42:32.100
never got to the oval office. Thank God in heaven. Right. It was a tight one, big electoral college
00:42:38.480
win, but it was tight. We know it was tight. We knew we were over the target.
00:42:43.920
But this is what upsets them. This Washington post poll and only Alex Wagner over at MSNBC
00:42:48.820
had the guts to put it up. The Washington post went out and did a poll of where this election
00:42:53.320
is going to be decided in the swing States. Guess what? President Trump wins on protecting
00:42:59.980
democracy. And if you look at the cross tabs underneath among, I think it's independent
00:43:04.700
voters, it's a blowout. That is a shocker, an absolute shocker. And you know why the little
00:43:11.320
guy out there knows president Trump's got his back. Short commercial break back to the worm
00:43:19.720
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00:43:25.400
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I urge the high court to deny that request, but for a man who could possibly be reporting to prison
00:44:45.120
this Monday, Steve Bannon appears sort of unfazed. In a new interview, he tells Time Magazine reporter
00:44:51.040
Eric Cortalesa, I don't fear this at all. I'm a political prisoner. Cortalesa writes that Bannon is
00:44:57.440
attempting to rally an audience he calls an army of the awakened to sustain his anti-establishment
00:45:03.600
crusade. By playing the martyr, Bannon hopes to elevate his brand of burn-it-all-down populism
00:45:09.540
ahead of the presidential election. Joining me now is Eric Cortalesa, national politics reporter for
00:45:15.540
Time Magazine. Eric, thanks for joining me tonight. I mean, my first question is the sort of understanding
00:45:22.660
he has about being sidelined in the months leading up to this presidential election, given
00:45:27.960
what you write about, the real leadership role he plays in the MAGA movement. You write,
00:45:33.660
unlike other MAGA media personalities who largely seem to follow Trump's lead, Bannon
00:45:38.000
can rightly claim influence over the movement. So what are his prison plans?
00:45:42.480
Well, I think that Bannon sees his prison sentence as an opportunity to fortify support for him
00:45:50.200
as a martyr for the cause. And he's going to try and capitalize on that as much as he can
00:45:54.860
in the days leading up to him reporting for prison in a Connecticut penitentiary. And he's
00:46:00.320
going to try and lay the groundwork for this anti-establishment crusade that he believes can help
00:46:06.160
deliver the White House for Donald Trump, where he can unrestrained embark on the right-wing
00:46:11.340
nationalist, populist agenda that he's promising. I think in prison, Bannon plans to spend his time
00:46:18.640
in the library, following the news voraciously, communicating with his associates so that he
00:46:24.400
can still have a role in shaping messaging going into the election.
00:46:28.560
Yeah, he told you, you think I'm going to come out and be prison ripped? No, I have a lot of work
00:46:33.100
to do. So he's not going to be pumping iron in the yard. He's going to be continuing on with
00:46:37.820
his messaging and missives. Eric, talk to me a little bit about what you saw behind the scenes
00:46:43.440
at Bannon's lair in terms of his consumption of media and his battle strategy, his planning for
00:46:49.720
battle, if you will, his strategizing. Well, you know, I spent some time with Bannon recently during
00:46:56.840
a Saturday morning recording of his podcast at his Capitol Hill townhouse, once known by all as the
00:47:03.220
Breitbart embassy. And, you know, it's a bit of what you would imagine from the popular
00:47:07.420
understanding of Bannon, the imagination of Bannon. You know, it's cluttered, it's sun-deprived,
00:47:13.720
it's full of all these Bannon curiosities and tchotchkes, including, you know, shrines to MAGA
00:47:19.300
icons like Peter Navarro and even a bust of Bannon himself. And, you know, Bannon is, he watches MSNBC
00:47:26.600
religiously, by the way, and he is really, uh, monitoring who he sees as the opposition and the
00:47:32.500
information war, uh, in order to build up MAGA as a social movement as much as he can so that it can
00:47:39.200
have the greatest influence, uh, throughout the next couple months leading up to when voters will
00:47:44.040
cast ballots. But also, you know, if Trump wins, he wants to see these kinds of ideas be imposed,
00:47:49.700
uh, you know, a hostility to immigration, hostility to free trade, uh, and, uh, uh, an aversion to
00:47:57.340
foreign entanglement. So he's really trying to build the infrastructure for, uh, a Trump, uh,
00:48:03.560
revolution. What, what I think is a development, if at least, if not actually surprising is the
00:48:09.320
handshake between Republican establishment leadership and the cause of Steve Bannon. I w I wonder what your
00:48:15.540
impressions were of the work that the speaker of the house, Mike Johnson did today on behalf of
00:48:20.640
Steve Bannon, effectively, you know, distancing Congress from the work of the January 6th committee.
00:48:25.480
So as to negate Bannon's contempt of Congress conviction, I, what is the relationship he has
00:48:31.660
with that kind of wing of the Republican party, which is by no means moderate, but it's not the
00:48:37.040
wing of Marjorie Taylor green. Well, I think it goes to show just how effective Bannon has been
00:48:43.680
at, uh, transforming the Republican party into sort of the political wing of the MAGA movement
00:48:50.740
through war room, through his allied MAGA media personalities. He's really created a fighting
00:48:57.700
machine as a top aid to a president. Trump told me to go against Republicans who are not in line
00:49:04.160
with Trump. He has built a media ecosystem that can exert pressure. And you have people who work in
00:49:10.840
tandem to coerce Republicans and, uh, try to dismantle, uh, the old guard Republican establishment.
00:49:18.140
I think this shows just how effective he has been at doing that really since January 6th, when MAGA as
00:49:23.920
a movement has only grown in, in size and strength. I'll say, I'm glad that Steve Bannon's watching
00:49:34.600
We watch it religiously. Thank you, Alex Wagner. I think between her open at the open of her show
00:49:40.460
and then having, uh, Eric, the, uh, time magazine, he, and Eric's the guy that did the, uh, interview
00:49:45.020
with president Trump. And that was the cover that was so controversial where president Trump just
00:49:48.620
saying, Hey, here's, you know, here's what we're going to do in my second term. And of course the
00:49:53.500
mainstream media is absolutely shocked. She lays it out right there. What is that? What are those
00:49:57.780
segments about? They're about you. This show is, you know, it's, it's anybody can do this. Anybody
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can stand for a microphone and get great people on and talk about it and ask smart and ask questions
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and get them. And this is what the most important thing is this, this is a movement and this is the
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information warfare kind of nexus of at least part of that movement. Uh, and we are, and we're,
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we're proud to be not just conservatives. We're proud to be right wing because the right wing,
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and let me just say right here, look at this in my favorite paper, the financial times of London,
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right? Look at the headline right there. French far right leader vows to fight cultural battle
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against Islamism. Look at that. The guys are going to pray. That's Bardella, the 28 year old leader,
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French far right leader vows to fight a cultural battle on the front page of the financial times of
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London. And why is that? Because they know we're ascendant and they know in France, they're going
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to win. And they know that Nigel Farage is essentially going to become the opposition leader
00:51:01.660
and he's going to win. And this is so enormously powerful. They understand president Trump's going
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to win today. Uh, one of the top, uh, the top, uh, pollsters has out that he shifted from a toss up
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that now two thirds, one third Trump odds, 66% chance for Trump odds. And he goes through the
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battleground states. He goes through the issues. He looks at the crosstabs simultaneously,
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simultaneously, the Washington post has put out a poll that shows that president Trump is winning
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the argument. Now think about that for a second. After all the media firestorm, after the J six
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committee, after all of it, all of it, president Trump is winning on the topic of democracy, which
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is the central organizing principle. At least they tell us of the Biden, the Biden illegitimate regime.
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Uh, if I have to go to prison, if I end up going to prison, but it's brought the Republican house
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to now have to confront, and they got some heroes over there trying to do it to confront the reign
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of terror of Nancy Pelosi and what she did and what she allowed to have happen and what the legacy is
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of her last, uh, speakership, then so be it. We have a deep, hard, tough, long fight to save this
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republic. Okay. A long fight. There's going to be a lot more people that are in a lot, a lot,
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they're coming down a lot harder than they are in Stephen K. Bennett. Always remember that. We're
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