Episode 3721: The Elite Coup Against Joe Biden
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In the wake of the Supreme Court's 5-4 ruling in favor of John Roberts in the case of Mifepristone v. Loper Bright, Alex Blumberg and Peter Bergen discuss the implications for the economy, the environment, and the economy as a whole.
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case Loper Bright is what it's called. You've been very vocal. I've seen you today about just
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how monumental this is. And because admin law is sort of obscure, I think it's hard to sort
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of communicate why. But tell me why you think it's so significant. I just think it's a game
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changer in terms of how government can possibly work going forward. And I think if you read
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Justice Kagan's dissent, it's really, really clear that not only is this now a question of,
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you know, the water we drink, the food we have, the drugs that we take, you know,
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environmental policy. Ironically, everything that was being talked about on the debate stage last
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night, every one of those policies is administered by an agency. It's not administered by Joe Biden
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or Donald Trump. And all of those agencies have been kneecapped, absolutely kneecapped in their
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ability to do their work. And more urgently, and this is really the chilling part, we have a bunch
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of justices who just in the last few weeks, we've got Justice Alito playing doctor in the EMTALA
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statute, Neil Gorsuch, now an expert on emissions and air pollution. We've got the court telling us
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that they know better than ETF what a bump stock is. So this has been sort of happening over years
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and years, substituting their judgment in areas where they have no expertise. Now it's just wholesale.
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It's not agency by agency, case by case. It's just the entire administrative state has to bow before
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Matthew Kaczmarek and his idea about whether Mifepristone should be on the market or not.
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I defer to you guys, you're the experts, but I wonder if there isn't a bit of MAGA sprinkled in there,
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Mark Joseph Stern, just because the deep state, the administrative state has been such a whipping
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post for the upper echelons of Trump, Inc., including Steve Bannon, the guy going to jail
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on Monday. You know, they have loathed agencies, the federal bureaucracy, and they have come to
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embrace the judiciary since they have hijacked it for conservative ends. Yeah, I think this is an
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aspect of the traditional Republican business lobby that the MAGA movement has sort of embraced
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and turbocharged because what the majority opinion by Chief Justice Roberts reflects is not just this
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deep distrust of government employees, like you say, the deep state that Donald Trump wants to purge,
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but also a fundamental hostility toward how government works today, right? The majority
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is furious that when Congress steps in to enact new legislation in response to evolving problems,
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like, for instance, the Great Recession in 2008, it understands that it can't foresee every little
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problem that could arise on the ground, and it can't prescribe every future solution to all of
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those issues. So what Congress does instead and has done for more than a century is grant these
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federal agencies broad power to decide how exactly to implement and enforce these laws and to do so in
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accordance with their own expertise. The agencies that the court dismisses as staffed by beady-eyed
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bureaucrats, I mean, they're actually staffed by career civil servants and experts with deep knowledge
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and experience working on issues like here monetary policy, elsewhere environmental policy, food and
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drug safety, right? I think that these are the people you would rather trust deciding these major issues,
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some of which can be literally life or death, rather than judges who happen to have a law degree in a
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black robe and have now made themselves sort of the kings, the deciders of all major and minor
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questions of law and policy in the country. So what the majority of the court is telling Congress
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is you have to start writing narrower legislation, you have to start giving less authority to these
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agencies, you have to write feebler laws that are less capable of addressing future problems as they
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arise, and all of that is a recipe for paralyzing government, for paralyzing specifically the regulatory
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state that whether we know it or not, we are all relying on to ensure we have clean air, clean water,
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safe food and drugs. Who really likes that outcome? It's industry, it's polluters, it's corporations,
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it's billionaires. And so that has always been the class that kind of came together. MAGA and the
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Republican lobby are absolutely in agreement on this particular issue because it's good for their
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bottom line when they can evade EPA regulations and dump as much pollution into our rivers as they want.
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Yeah. I don't know that it will affect Trump, but as you know, Monday is actually what we're
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waiting for. That's what I want to ask you for. How bad is this going to be on Monday? They're
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going to give them immunity from all prosecutions? Again, they just said that they are kings and
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queens and can rule over the EPA and the SEC and all these other things. I'm pretty sure now that if
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they don't give them full immunity, they'll give them enough to get through the election.
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They'll say the Constitution said in the night, in the early 18th century, that Donald J. Trump,
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who shall be born in the year of our Lord so-and-so-and-so, is immune from all prosecution.
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What news today that when the Supreme Court denied Steve Bannon sort of Hail Mary to stay out of
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prison, he's going to have to report on Monday, when they denied it, that it was the court saying,
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you've done your service on deconstructing administrative state, but we'll take it from
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...is effectively frozen as we await the court's decision on Trump's absolute presidential immunity
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case. Today, the court signaled that it will hand down that decision on Monday, July 1st,
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right in time for the 4th of July holiday. Happy Independence Day. The best case scenario here is
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that there will be no federal criminal trial for Donald Trump before this election. That's the best
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case scenario, which means that anyone looking to stop Donald Trump and to secure the fate of American
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democracy and the gains made in the last half century on civil rights and social progress and
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to ensure a more equitable and stable future for this country and this planet is now dependent on
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a Democrat to stop Donald Trump. And right now, that person remains President Joe Biden.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot, all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a
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belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world
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to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go
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to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,
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this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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It's Saturday, 29 June in the year of our Lord, 2024. We've got a lot to get to today. I want to
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thank Brother Chris Hayes. That is one of the funniest lines. We'll play that a little bit
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later. Exactly. It's next man up, and now that next man is the Supreme Court. Monumental day
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yesterday. Historic. And you saw last night, the smart folks over at MSNBC, the ones that get it,
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are in full and total meltdown. We're starting, we got Mike Davis, we got Bill McGinley from the RNC.
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We're going to go through it all. First off, why don't you start, Mike Davis, because you saw the
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MSNBC meltdown on the deconstruction of the administrative state. And Bill, this has been a
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multi-year project, right? I mean, I said it at CPAC in February of 17, about the third line of
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work. You had national security, you know, end of foreign America first. You had the economic
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nationalism to bring the jobs back. But the third line of work was going to be deconstruction
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of the administrative state. In that audience, the CPAC was packed that day. The mainstream,
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I mean, it had to be, it had to be a thousand mainstream on the riser, right? This is when CPAC
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was, you know, Trump's coming in, CPAC was huge. They had a thousand media, and they're all
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looking at each other. What in the hell is that guy talking? That's crazy, Ben. And what's
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he talking? It's the first time I ever talked in public. So what's he talking about? The
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audience was standing on their chairs. The MAGA and the deplorables and Republicans, the
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limited government Republicans have been around and understand this is the only way you take
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down the Leviathan, right? The only way you take it down is that. Mike Davis, your thoughts
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yesterday, we had five, we got five administrative state, I think maybe even one more is on Monday,
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or are they all done? But the Mac Daddy, the Chevron deference is dead. And you know who
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told me the administrative state is dead? Not Stephen K. Bannon, not Mike Davis, not Bill
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McGinley, Lawrence Tribe. People have to understand something. I take pride in making sure we squashed
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little Merrick Garland from a lifetime appointment by beating Hillary Clinton. Remember, Merrick Garland
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was already appointed, already was in for confirmation. Mitch McConnell did his job and made sure
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that was delayed, right? And we got Neil Gorsuch for that. That's not a bad trade. But the
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guy they really wanted was Lawrence Tribe, but he was too old. The whole theory is you got
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to get guys in their 50s or 40s, you know, if you're going to get him confirmed, you want
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them there for a long run. But Lawrence Tribe is the head guy. He tweets yesterday, when
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Chevron deference came out, the administrative state is dead. And he was not happy about it.
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Mike Davis, your thoughts? I would say to you, Stephen K. Bannon, take a bow, my friend. You
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were on the selection committee with Mark Paoletta. Take a bow before they send you to the clink,
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before Biden sends you away, because you were key in all this, in selecting my former boss,
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Neil Gorsuch, who was the intellectual force behind the Chevron case. Justice Gorsuch, when
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he was Judge Gorsuch on the 10th Circuit, wrote a powerful opinion that got people's attention
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across the judiciary and throughout the executive branch.
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Hey, Mike, Mike, I'm going to tell you a story of how this really came about, because I was
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one of those guys always yelling about the Leviathan, always arguing about, and noticed
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nothing was ever getting done. This came up, and Don McGann does not get enough, because
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Don had a pretty, he had some rough patches, as our first White House counsel, as I think
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Don would admit. Let's say this, President Trump and Don did not see eye to eye on a couple
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of three topics. But Don McGann is actually one of the silent heroes here. It was the second
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list. When I got in there, we put out 10, and they hired Pence as VP. But there was still
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a number, you know, it was still like 10 percent of the Republicans, 12 percent of the standard
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Republicans weren't there yet for Trump. This was in August. And the concept was, let's double
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down once again and work with Federalist Society and Leonard Leo and others and say, let's get
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another list to show that we intend to have a couple of things, and you're going to have a deep
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bench in everybody in the traditional conservative movement. And Gorsuch was on that list. And that's
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for Don McGann. As I went through the list with Don McGann, McGann said, I think he was on the
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second list. McGann talked to me about the administrative state. I had heard about it and
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read about it, but I didn't understand it. And then I realized, aha, this is why I was the only
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non-lawyer on the selection panel. Because what Don McGann laid out is really a new vision. This
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is getting America, Mike, back to the constitutional republic we are. If you're going to do it, the
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thing you have to go after the Leviathan on spending and everything. But like I say, it's
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not, you can't cut 3% of spending. You have to programmatically go in and stop doing things.
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You can't go and fire a couple of bureaucrats. It's not about individual people. You have
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to take out programs and billets. And the administration, and this thing about the
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administration and Chevron deference, and that's the thing that came up with Neil Gorsuch
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was the intellectual firepower of then Judge Gorsuch about this topic and how a new young
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generation of lawyers and judges had a little bit segued from the social conservative, you
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know, gay marriage, abortion, which had traditionally been, they were now segueing to this concept of
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the administrative state. And Mike Davis was the young Turk that was out there with Judge
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Gorsuch, that opinion. And that is the connecting the dots that led to yesterday. And as you saw
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in the open, Mike Davis, they realized the 20-year project we have ahead of us as we win again and
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get more Trump judges in here. It's just started on taking down the administrative state, sir.
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Absolutely. And this is a monumental decision overruling Chevron deference. And I'm listening to all
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those leftists in your opening talking about how we need to defer to the experts. Hell no,
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we don't need to defer to the experts. We see, we saw what happened during COVID lockdowns when we
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deferred to the experts, when we deferred to the CDC, when they had us with a six-foot rule that was
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not based in science, when we had these mask mandates that was not based in science, when we
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closed down these schools. This is insane that we would defer to these experts, especially after
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their COVID disaster, where they destroyed our country and destroyed so many people's lives.
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How this is supposed to work under our Constitution is our elected members of Congress write the laws,
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the president enforces those laws, along with his aides in the executive branch, but they report to
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the president of the United States. And then courts are supposed to interpret those laws, including
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how much power these, this executive branch, these agencies have. And what, what the courts have done
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for 40 years is they just defer to these executive branch agencies. They just defer to the CDC and the
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FTC and SEC and say, you know what, we're going to defer to your interpretation of your own power. And guess
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what? They take more power. Yeah. I think MSNBC actually, I think there have been 18,000 formal
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deferrals to the bureaucracy. That ain't happening anymore. Hang on one second. I got Bill McGinley
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here from the R.C. And Bill McGinley is going to walk you through the signal, not the noise, on the
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coup by the radical left led by the New York Times against Joe Biden to turf Biden out and to replace
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When the Supreme Court denied Steve Bannon sort of Hail Mary to stay out of prison, he's going to
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have to report on Monday. When they denied it, it was the court saying, you've done your service on
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deconstruct the administrative staple. We'll take it from here, which I thought was pretty funny.
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A hundred percent. There's no doubt about that. Hey, I stand relieved, okay? It's now in your hand.
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Davis, you did an amazing job. People forget Mike Davis with Associate Justice Gorsuch and then went
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over to the Supreme Court as a clerk. And then Mike Davis did the really heavy lift on Kavanaugh.
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And Kavanaugh is a example of that moment, that defining moment. You remember this, Mike?
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There was a moment they were all over Trump and people wanted to pull the nomination.
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And it was Mike Davis and Grassley. And some tough, tough, some tough hombres said, we're not doing
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that. And we're not going to do that. If we do this, we're playing their game and we're not going
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to do it. And that was a profound courage. McGinley. Mike, hang around for a second. I got to have you
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comment on this. McGinley, you have, before you went over to the RNC, and people should know this,
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you know, the RNC, and I realize there's some controversy, but hey, they're turning the apparatus
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over in the pointing downrange, okay? And so right now we don't have time for petty squabbles. I'm the
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king of the petty squabbles, so we don't have time for the petty squabbles. It's everybody point guns
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downrange. But you and Rahim had done a research project over the last couple of years. Because
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McGinley came to me and says, hey, look, we got it. And Caroline Ren is going to join us in a minute.
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He said, we have a fundamental problem in the two political parties. Number one, our donors
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are essentially star blank. They want to give to candidates. They want TV advertising. This is why
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the consultants can be fluffers and get them all excited and have meetings with candidates. You
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know, I've got this guy. I got that guy. And the money doesn't go into, it's not investing. You're
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spending just on commercials, and they're the least effective thing, but it's the way the consultant
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class makes the most money. He says the Democrats are in this for the, they're in this for power.
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They're in this to make sure that they can keep control of the American imperial project,
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and they do investments as shown in Colorado years ago. But more importantly, they're making
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investments today in infrastructure. And you're the first guy to bring them. He says, hey, look,
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people, and this is over a year ago, Bill McGinley came to, we spent a whole afternoon here in the
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war room. In fact, it was on a Saturday. McGinley goes, here's what's disturbing. He says, this money
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they're going to put in, it's going to be billions of dollars, is investing in an apparatus that is
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plug and play. You don't need, you don't need Joe Biden. So walk me through that at first. We're
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going to get back, and David's going to hang with us. Walk us through, there is a, folks, you got
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to understand, there is a coup going on right now, a coup going on against Biden after last night.
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These people hid it forever, but the New York Times, the big donor money, etc., realize what we have said
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for a long time, that guy cannot beat Donald Trump. Right. And they're just not going to sit here,
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and under no circumstances will they give up this apparatus. What was exposed on the night of the
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debate is that Biden is simply a vehicle for the big donor class and the Democratic elites to achieve
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their goals, right? That's their looking for their return on investment. And this is why they held back
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the laptop from hell when it was delivered in 2019, and Biden was in fifth place. Biden finished fourth
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in Iowa. He finished fifth in New Hampshire, I think. This was historically out of it, and all of a sudden,
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Biden becomes the candidate. He's the vehicle. He was that middle-of-the-road guy or the thought that could,
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that could, as they stole the election, had the summer love, the pandemic, everything. He was the guy, not,
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not Elizabeth Warren, not Bernie Sanders, not Amy Klobuchar, but this was the guy. So the apparatus even moved
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at that time. That's right. Because they're able, because they're outside, and the donors have invested in
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the infrastructure. Like you said, it can become a turnkey operation when they sense a political
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opportunity. And last time I was on, we talked about how the Biden campaign had signaled to the
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Washington Post, this is how we're going to structure our campaign. But if you really understand how these
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things work, what they really said was, this was going to be an effort that was going to allow us to
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use this apparatus for whatever candidate sits atop the ticket or down ballot. And so that's why,
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when you look at what they've done, they've have, the campaign is probably the smallest unit
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of the, of the apparatus. The DNC and the state parties and their joint fundraising agreements are
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receiving most of the money. That is not Biden-specific money. That is money going into the
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Democratic Party apparatus that they're going to be able to use no matter who is atop the ticket.
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And most importantly, I think, are the dark money network that they've established. And they've blessed
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a number of organizations that are going to come in and support future forward.
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Hang on a second, right before you get there. Remember a couple of weeks ago, we, and if Denver
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can get that chart, but here, I want to go back for the Roman posse. Because, hey folks,
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just because I'm leaving for a while doesn't mean I'm leaving. But this is, we're setting the
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narratives here. Once again, the two narratives, the national security issue, and they have to have
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a 25th amendment, and that's going to cause a constitutional crisis. Chip Roy and these guys,
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we're going to drive that. But they're going to change by now. When the New York Times comes out,
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for the left, the New York Times editorial is like the voice of God. So Biden's going. We have to make
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that process. We have to make, when the Praetorian Guard changes out to the next general, maybe Gavin
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Newsom, the next loyal general, we have to make that process as painful as possible. We have to,
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because they're going to come with search for their Messiah, and then that process of the honeymoon.
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When they get to, when they get to Chicago, it's going to be all sweetness and light like you've never
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seen before. I mean, we have to make the process between now and then, expose to the American people
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what's going on here, that this is a controlling apparatus. Here's the important thing that Bill McGinley
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said on this show over a month ago. He came in with the, with the member on a Saturday, he made the
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presentation, he says, look, I want people to understand something. This is not about the DNC versus
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the RNC. This is not even about Biden versus Trump, or the Biden campaign versus the Trump
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campaign. This is about Trump and an outgunned RNC with $2 billion of outside money from the
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smartest and most vicious people out there with the best operatives that are paying the real
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dollars. You don't see, things are, people hang around the DNC is like a clown show. This is the
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serious money. Continue on. And also just understanding the difference between the two parties, right?
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The DNC, the Democratic Party is a top-down party. The elites really have the authority
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to control a lot of the nominating process, but also at the convention, have an opportunity to
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really throw a wrench into Joe Biden's plans if he wants to fight this. The RNC, the Republican
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Party, on the other hand, is more of a bottom-up party. If you look at how the delegates are selected,
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how the governance is done. And so it's more of a grassroots focus.
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That's why Dan Schultz came up with the precinct strategy. If you look at the structure of it,
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it's supposed to be a grassroots party. They just cut out the grassroots. That's why the
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precinct strategy. But it's also why we talked about the posse is the difference maker. Big.
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Right? Because they may have the billions. It's Trump versus the popular, versus the posse,
00:23:32.220
because that, the posses, they get out the vote and more as importantly, the stop the steal is,
00:23:39.420
which would cost a couple of billion dollars if you had to pay for that manpower. Here,
00:23:43.020
it's going to be volunteers. That's right. And that's why we talked about signing up so that you
00:23:46.620
can be put to work and volunteer, put the sweat equity into this election, counteract the billions
00:23:52.060
of dark, dark money that are coming after President Trump and the Republicans. And that's
00:23:55.880
why you go to protect the vote, to sign up to be a poll watcher in the battleground states. That's
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why you go to Trump Force 47. That's why you go to swampthevoteusa.com so that you can figure out
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the best way for you to vote. And you become a force multiplier. You find 10 of your friends
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to either volunteer as a poll watcher or to make sure that they go out there and cast their ballots
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and so that we can have something to argue over if there's any sort of post-election proceedings.
00:24:21.040
But let's go back to the Democratic structure. So they have, you know, just like you said,
00:24:26.280
it's Biden, DNC plus billions of dark money versus Trump, RNC and the posse volunteer army.
00:24:33.420
Now, the way that they structured this, and they said that they were breaking new ground,
00:24:37.340
they're not really breaking that much new ground. But what they're doing is, when you see these
00:24:41.320
million dollar fundraisers with all of the Hollywood types and all the billionaires
00:24:44.720
from Silicon Valley. The 30 million they had in New York City and another 28 million they got in.
00:24:49.000
That's right. 30 million is not going into the Trump campaign. Most of that money is...
00:24:52.220
You mean not going to the Biden campaign. Excuse me, to the Biden campaign.
00:24:55.240
That money is actually going into the DNC and the Democratic state parties.
00:24:59.360
That is non-Biden specific money. That is money that can be used for anybody who sits atop the ticket.
00:25:05.960
So when you think about all this money that's coming into these joint fundraising agreements
00:25:10.020
with a million dollars... It's not tied to Biden. It's not tied to Biden.
00:25:13.060
Folks, repeat this, and all the left-wing media watching us, we understand what's going on here.
00:25:18.360
Follow the money. So let me go back. When you see these, the one in Radio City Music Hall
00:25:24.140
was, I think, $28 million. The one in Hollywood by George Clooney and these guys were $30 million.
00:25:30.420
When you see these massive fundraisers, that doesn't stick to Joe Biden.
00:25:34.700
That goes into the committee, and the committee then funnels it down to the state parties.
00:25:38.500
All those donations to the state parties come back to the DNC.
00:25:41.220
So on the evening of the 28th of August, if that nominee that walks down the stage is
00:25:45.140
Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama or Ofer Winfrey, it's whoever that person is, the official
00:25:51.940
A lot of that money is available. A lot of that money is available.
00:25:55.480
But all of the $2 billion in the invested infrastructure around it.
00:26:00.860
That's available. So what does this mean? There are a number of hurdles that the Democrats
00:26:07.320
have to replacing Joe Biden. Number one, they've been lecturing us for years about they're the
00:26:12.600
party of democracy. They need to preserve democracy. And now the Democratic elites are actively and
00:26:18.760
openly talking about disenfranchising every Democratic primary voter who voted for Joe Biden.
00:26:24.380
Why? Because they don't think he can win. They're concerned that he may not win an election.
00:26:30.520
The Democrats actually have a history of this. At the Senate level, if you look in New Jersey,
00:26:35.100
Bob Torselli was a sitting U.S. senator, Democrat, ran into a big ethics scandal. After the primary had
00:26:42.360
already been done and he was the nominee, Democrats realized he couldn't win. So they actually sued in
00:26:47.960
New Jersey to be able to swap him out for Frank Lautenberg, who was a former senator who they then put on the
00:26:53.700
ballot and ended up prevailing in the election. So when you're a Democratic primary voter, you have
00:26:58.920
to realize your vote may not actually determine who your nominee is going to be in the general
00:27:05.040
election if the Democratic elites disagree with your choice.
00:27:07.880
There's zero probability of this. OK, we're going to take a short commercial break.
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The Soviets. Soviets were just coordinating committees. The Soviets, it wasn't the Soviet,
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The DNC was set up as an American Soviet. It was set up in very structure to have the labor unions
00:28:07.320
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report on Monday, when they denied it, that it was the court saying, you've done your service on
00:29:25.820
deconstructing administrative state, but we'll take it from here, which was pretty funny.
00:29:31.540
I stand relieved. Mike Davis, you've been in this fight. And folks, here's why, because this is the
00:29:37.840
Trump revolution. The Trump revolution is in full and they know it. And we can't be stopped. The only way
00:29:44.320
we can be stopped is if we quit. And we're not going to quit. You're just now getting your power.
00:29:52.060
It's that old, I think it's from the Hindu, I think it's from the Hindu religions. They have a thing
00:29:57.280
called the Roar of Awakening. And it's about a little tiger that gets lost from his mom and is
00:30:04.200
raised by a collection of sheep. And he runs around with sheep and he plays with sheep and he does
00:30:11.400
everything with sheep. He's, you know, he's, he's raised by sheep. And then one day, I think they
00:30:16.160
come up on a, on a carcass and he looks over and he jumps over and looks at it and sniffs around it
00:30:20.820
and sniffs around it. And then he takes a bite as a carnivore of meat. And as soon as it happened,
00:30:26.220
it's like, he just roars like a, like a lion. Right. And that's, that's what this movement,
00:30:33.140
this movement and this, what happened yesterday, quite frankly, what happened this entire Supreme
00:30:38.440
Court session. And you're going to see this on Monday, I think with the immunity, but you saw
00:30:42.540
with Fisher yesterday, Mike Davis, people have worked for decades for this. And this is not a
00:30:48.440
small win. This is a big one. The woman last night that was on Alex Wagner, she was absolutely
00:30:54.220
brilliant. I mean, she walked in, she goes, look, even people on the left, you do not understand
00:30:58.480
how big this is. This is actually how they start to take apart the federal government. You know,
00:31:04.040
we are, we are the party of government Democrats and always increase it. This, they've now laid
00:31:08.820
it out and we can't reverse it. They were gobsmacked. So Davis, give me your assessment.
00:31:15.200
How do we get here? Where are we? And where are we going to go? The judges are everything.
00:31:18.920
Every Republican in this, in the war and posse, you must clip this piece and get it to your
00:31:23.680
friends sitting there going, you know, on TV. I don't know. Trump has mean tweets and Trump
00:31:28.100
says bad things and Trump's mean and, you know, Trump and Stormy Daniels and Trump in this
00:31:32.780
and Trump in that. And when Trump gets sentenced to prison on the 11th, it doesn't matter.
00:31:37.720
This is the thing itself. If you want to, if you want to get back to liberty, you want
00:31:43.440
to beat tyranny back. If you want to be free men and women, if you want to slay the Leviathan,
00:31:50.000
this is, you know, it's project 2025 and everybody's doing it from the executive branch. It's supporting
00:31:54.920
those people in the house that want to pass legislation to do this. And the third angle of
00:32:01.200
attack is the Supreme Court. And they have delivered a victory that is the biggest victory
00:32:06.620
we've ever had in taming the Leviathan. Mike Davis, your thoughts?
00:32:11.000
Well, I would say this. The political branches are not going to drain the swamp because they
00:32:17.000
are the reptiles. The executive branch, Congress, they're not going to drain the swamp. No matter
00:32:22.400
how hard Republicans try, that's not going to happen. You know who's going to drain the swamp?
00:32:27.520
Well, the federal judges, the plumbers, right? Those are the people who are going to drain
00:32:31.440
the swamp because they're going to, over the next 20 years, put the federal government
00:32:36.760
back into its place as the Constitution requires, where Congress writes the laws, our elected members
00:32:44.940
of Congress write the laws, the president and the executive branch enforce the laws, and judges
00:32:50.700
decide cases and controversies. They interpret the laws. And we're not going to have these unelected,
00:32:57.040
unaccountable executive branch bureaucrats steal all that power from the other branches and then
00:33:03.760
steal power that belongs to the states and we the people, as confirmed by the 10th Amendment.
00:33:10.660
So you're going to see the federal government lose its power, and it's going to return to the states
00:33:15.860
and the people. And then you're going to see the power that remains with the federal government
00:33:20.380
divided among the branches as it was intended under the Constitution.
00:33:26.380
Amen. That's a vision, brother. They say Trump has no vision. That's the vision. That's MAGA.
00:33:31.740
That's what MAGA has delivered. This is how you get this republic back to a constitutional republic
00:33:37.120
and away from this madness. Now, Mike Davis, Article 3, you're such a central player here. You have a big
00:33:42.540
part of this as I get relieved on Monday morning. You're going to have a big part of this going forward.
00:33:47.720
What is your how do people get to Article 3? Well, let me just make a point about that,
00:33:52.260
because Steve is too modest to say this. I don't think Biden understands what a mistake they are
00:33:58.040
making by sending Steve Bannon to jail, because he's going to go in like the nation of Islam and
00:34:03.100
convert the whole jail to MAGA. They're going to come out with all these Trump supporters in jail,
00:34:09.300
and then he's going to come out guns a blazing the week before the election. He's going to become
00:34:14.160
a legend, right? If you think Steve Bannon is a legend now, wait until he comes out of prison
00:34:19.520
with all these conflicts. I don't, you know, I love history. I don't want to say anything,
00:34:25.640
but Bastille Day is celebrating the 14th. That's when we went to the prison with the guys at,
00:34:30.460
and also people, you study the Russian Revolution. It didn't really kick in until they got the jails
00:34:35.480
and got the revolutionaries out. Just saying, Mike Davis, you're great. Article 3 project,
00:34:40.660
you're the tip of the spear. Where do people go, brother? Article 3 project.org. Article 3 project.org.
00:34:48.560
You can donate there. We're not going to piss away your money on stupid TV ads. We're doing our own
00:34:55.120
lawfare. We're lean and mean, and we're fighting back. Maybe we'll go bust Steve out of prison.
00:35:00.740
We'll bust Steve out of prison. We'll use that money. No, hold it, hold it. Tell me, no, no, hang on,
00:35:05.380
but real quickly, give it the criminal referral. You got a criminal referral for what the number,
00:35:09.520
the person that heads the civil rights division of the justice department, you sent a criminal
00:35:14.580
referral over to? Well, we did a criminal referral. We did an office of professional
00:35:18.980
responsibility complaint. We did a bar complaint in DC. We did a bar complaint in New York. We've
00:35:24.660
gone after these Obama and Biden and other Democrat judges with judicial misconduct complaints. We're not
00:35:30.000
messing around. We're not pissing away money on TV ads to line our pockets. I've spent two and a
00:35:35.280
half million dollars of my own money running this because I'm crazy. And so we're spending this
00:35:39.240
money effectively and efficiently, and we're moving the ball. There's a reason that the Supreme
00:35:44.820
Court, there's a reason that John Roberts, the chief justice of the Supreme Court, joined the majority
00:35:50.180
and wrote the opinion. He felt comfortable enough joining the Chevron majority and write the opinion.
00:35:55.380
It's because we've changed the politics over the last four years. And Steve Bannon was the leader of
00:36:01.060
that. Hold it. Hold it. Now that I'm not looking for now that I'm not looking for a stay, we can be,
00:36:08.560
we can talk turkey. I'm just kidding. I got to say, though, it's kind of shocking to me, given the
00:36:15.000
genesis of this and given an extraordinary. And by the way, you got to read Gorses' story about his
00:36:19.060
mother that he adored his mother. His mother was his hero. What she went through in the Reagan
00:36:24.860
administration. I mean, she is a she's MAGA before MAGA. This one was tough as boot leather. And hey,
00:36:30.540
she didn't want she wouldn't work any nonsense. I mean, just an extraordinary woman. You see that
00:36:34.700
he his formation, he's molded in her image and likeness. And the reason he's looked at this
00:36:40.200
intellectually is so powerful and so important about the difference between liberty and tyranny.
00:36:44.220
A lot of people talk about it. He went to the heart of what does it really mean? Mike Davis,
00:36:48.840
given it's so monumental, and it'll be talked about and discussed for decades and decades and
00:36:54.500
decades. Why was Neil Gorsuch? Why didn't Neil Gorsuch write the leader? Why did I don't want to say
00:36:59.520
Roberts kind of came in and globbed on to the to the glory, but he did come on and glob onto the
00:37:05.140
glory? How did that happen? Well, I would say this, I would say Newt Gingrich used to talk about
00:37:10.300
this. If you want politicians to get anything done, you have to build the parade and let the
00:37:16.680
politicians lead the parade. So if John Roberts wants to be the politician leading the parade on
00:37:22.840
Chevron, great. As long as we have his vote, I don't give a damn who's leading the parade. As long
00:37:27.380
as we're overturning Chevron and deconstructing the administrative state. Look, the real answer
00:37:32.880
is, is as the chief justice, if he's in the majority, he gets to assign the opinion. And so
00:37:38.080
he assigned the opinion to himself. I'm surprised he didn't assign it to Gorsuch. But you know what,
00:37:43.380
if we have the chief justice's vote and he's not being a squish and a wep, great.
00:37:47.480
I think Roberts had enough of war room saying it's the Thomas court. Pay a letter on his saying it's
00:37:52.920
the Thomas court. He went on the biggest thing they're ever going to do. He went to put his name on
00:37:55.940
it's the Roberts court. Last thing for you. I got to have that. And McGinley, I want you to jump
00:38:00.420
into, uh, since, uh, associate justice Jackson was with us on Fisher and it's a separate opinion,
00:38:08.600
but it ain't too shabby. I'm not a lawyer, but Hey, she's on our side of the football on one
00:38:13.380
that's huge and blowing up the, and that'll lead to massive investigations of the justice department.
00:38:18.560
And, and, uh, I think the Notre Dame law professor, uh, Coney Barrett, Coney Barrett's a little
00:38:24.600
jiggy right now. Where do we stand? I thought, uh, I thought this was supposed to be, I thought
00:38:28.640
she was supposed to be a conservative. What's going on here. And we got judge Jackson on our side of
00:38:32.560
the football, right in her own opinion that concurs. And she's taken quite frankly, a quite
00:38:37.980
courageous stand. Uh, what is this? What's the deal with the Notre Dame law professor?
00:38:43.300
I would say this to justice, Amy Coney Barrett, if you're deciding whether to, uh, join an opinion
00:38:51.400
or not join an opinion, you look over on the right and you see justice Jackson and you're,
00:38:58.880
you're not at least on the right, then maybe you should get your head out of your ass.
00:39:02.920
Like you are a rattled law professor and you think your job is to grade law school exams instead
00:39:11.440
of exercising good judgment. She's not some liberal. She's not some David suitor, but she's
00:39:17.100
some rattled law professor who thinks that she is the smartest person in the room. And she has to
00:39:22.860
prove to everyone why she's the smartest person in the room. Just get to the right damn results.
00:39:28.740
Just get to the right one. You see judge Jackson, Mike Davis. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.
00:39:33.980
Thank you, sir. Did that, you're a student of this. That shocked you a little bit.
00:39:38.280
Jackson joining the majority. Yeah. Yes. And right. Independent opinion, but the opinion is pretty,
00:39:43.560
you know, it's pretty strong. Yeah. You think that's a good rule for, for associate justice,
00:39:49.380
Coney Barrett. When you see judge Jackson over there sitting with Thomas and Gorsuch and Alito,
00:39:54.620
maybe you're, you know, maybe you slide your papers over there.
00:39:56.900
You're worried about your personal politics. It gives you all the cover you need.
00:39:59.200
The fact that she joined the majority. Do you think it's, you think it's sometimes it gets that
00:40:02.760
political? Yeah, I do. I think sometimes it does, but at the end, I would not opine that maybe my,
00:40:07.880
maybe it was not the best time to drop my stay in during the firefight, the firestorm they're
00:40:13.360
having right now. And Hey, they're just left immunity. They got out of town and they're
00:40:17.180
leaving immunity for Monday. The point to remember is even before, um, president Trump was able to
00:40:22.900
get his justices onto the Supreme court, the Supreme court was very skeptical of taking these
00:40:27.880
vague criminal statutes and giving them an overbroad application. Right. We saw it in the,
00:40:33.180
you know, Enron case. We saw it in the Bob McDonald case. And this is the grandson of Enron,
00:40:38.660
right? Cause they really took the Enron. That's right. Filings and tried to back. This is Andrew
00:40:42.520
Weissman who will be deeply investigated. And Jack Smith, I think was Bob, was Bob
00:40:46.880
McDonald. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. And so the Supreme court, because remember the rule
00:40:50.660
of lenity. I mean, the, the, the governing philosophy is always that the criminal statute is
00:40:54.280
supposed to have a very narrow application so that a man of, of common intelligence can know what
00:40:58.740
is right and what is wrong, what is prohibited and what is permitted. And when they're taking
00:41:02.500
these statutes and giving them an overly broad application, it's really unfair to the defendants
00:41:07.220
because how do you prove the negative? Right. I mean, these guys are, are, are being charged
00:41:11.400
with things where it just doesn't have any application. What happened in New York. Do I
00:41:15.300
have Caroline run up? We're going to try to get her. Let's go back to this coup. I want to make
00:41:20.000
sure I want to reset and explain to people, uh, what's happening. There, there is an apparatus
00:41:26.280
that's well-funded of a couple of billion dollars. Yeah. That is what controls the administrative
00:41:30.500
state and the deep state and puts these radical Democrats in. They're not going to just, that's
00:41:35.380
who, that's who put Biden in to run in the summer of love. Right. Then he's, he, he, he, they,
00:41:40.480
they didn't have a primary, right. They wouldn't have a primary. They wouldn't debate. Wouldn't
00:41:44.140
debate. No debates to keep Biden. And then when Biden, when it's obvious. And they changed
00:41:47.760
the primary schedule. Changed his schedule. Now they realize, and they've realized this over
00:41:52.360
a couple of months. This is, this is the suppression of information that Biden's not.
00:41:56.020
The wall street journal broke this a month ago about talking about, you know, advisors.
00:42:00.420
He's very slow. And they came out in a firestorm and said, it's not true. We know from Europe,
00:42:04.520
people that contact us from Europe when, when Biden was over there for the 80th commemoration
00:42:08.920
of D-Day and also stayed around for the French, uh, stay the, or I guess he came back and went
00:42:14.000
back for the French, um, for the French, uh, you know, celebration of, uh, of, uh, of their
00:42:20.340
celebration that he was, he was slow. He was slow on the uptake. So people have known
00:42:24.020
this for a while. And remember when people were posting the videos of him walking around
00:42:28.840
or getting lost or stumbling his words, those were cheap fakes. Remember that was the narrative
00:42:33.080
that was coming out of the white house. Zen master, Zen master, Jean Pierre.
00:42:36.480
So suddenly that dropped, uh, with the debate because everybody saw it. And one of the things
00:42:42.340
that, that, that I've talked about with people is, you know, one of the reasons that, that,
00:42:45.940
that cheap fake narrative doesn't take hold is because especially in modern day America,
00:42:50.820
people of my generation are taking care of their kids, but they're also taking care of
00:42:54.440
their elderly parents who are in nursing homes, memory units across the country. And they recognize
00:42:59.360
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Okay. McGinley is going to stay with us for a while. I got Carolyn running coming in. Mo's around
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Raheem's from, uh, we're going to go to England and Raheem is on the campaign trail with Nigel Farage.
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Remember massive vote there on July 4th and tomorrow round one and the modern French revolution. We're
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going to get to all that throughout the show. I want to bring a Bruce Castor and Marley Hornick
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from up in Pennsylvania. Bruce, uh, folks remember you is that you were one of president Trump's
00:45:10.000
impeachment lawyers on impeachment. Number one, you've got something that when Jack Posobiec calls
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me up and a couple of other colleagues, I haven't said this thing's explosive and Castor's on top of it.
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What, what in the hell's going on? What do you just, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're,
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you're up there and you're saying you, you know about voter fraud or what's happening? Cause
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Pennsylvania, you know, Josh Shapiro is going to offer himself to the nation here in a couple of
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weeks as a, as a savior to the democratic party. So what in the hell's going on in Pennsylvania?
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Well, it was, it's not that it's not necessarily voter fraud. It's simply that we, we've discovered
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that, uh, in Pennsylvania and we think it's throughout the nation that, um, the various
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minimal touchstones that Congress requires before we can determine whether an election is
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reliable or not, are not being met and we're not met, uh, in the 2022 election. So I filed an action
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in, uh, in Harrisburg in federal court, uh, saying that here's how we know it wasn't followed in 2022.
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And we're afraid that if we don't make some changes, those same problems are going to occur
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in 2024. And, uh, it's not accusing anybody of doing anything wrong. And it's not, it's not, um,
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trying to reverse the election. It's saying just as a matter of mathematics, Congress has said you're
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only allowed to have a certain number of errors in an election. And, uh, in Pennsylvania in 2022,
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we poll voted over that number. And, um, it, it's the, the idea of, um, if you go buy a fancy Swiss
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watch and it runs a couple seconds fast a day, uh, you think you have a marvel of engineering. If it
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runs five minutes fast a day, you send it back because it's no longer reliable when you check your,
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check your watch. And what we were, what we saw in 2022 and, and all the, uh, the vote count
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legislation or, or, or litigation, um, was that if it didn't, if there wasn't evidence that it,
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that the so-called fraud would overturn the election, then, uh, um, then that's okay.
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We don't need to look any further. And what kept bothering me about that was,
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at what point do we say that we're, the election has sufficient number of flaws that we don't have
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confidence in its reliability. So when, uh, Marley and United Sovereign Americans, uh, asked me to take
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a look at their ideas in this area, it matched up with the, the ones I had been, I had been mulling
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on for the last couple of years. And, uh, I thought they were right. And I just agreed to take on the
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case. But, okay, but hang on for one second before I get to Marley. When you say congressional,
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they, congressional is putting in a template and that template is not being met. Be specific.
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What do you mean by that? Well, in the, um, in the help of Eric America Vote Act, uh, Congress
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said that you can have, uh, in, in, in any given federal election run by a state, you can have
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one in 10 million, uh, ballot positions, uh, with an error. Now, a ballot position is each one of
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those little dots you fill in. So the Federal Election Commission figured out that in order to
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get to 10 million ballot positions, you have to have 125,000 ballots. So you can have one error per
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125,000 ballots. So in Pennsylvania, there are five and a half million votes cast,
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you divide 125,000 into five and a half million, and you come up with some number,
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like we, we calculated it out to between 43 and 44 errors, uh, in the election before you could,
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you could say, um, that the election is no longer reliable if you had more errors than that.
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Well, in one area alone, and we, and we listed a number of them in our petition,
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but in one area alone, there were 9,100 more votes counted than there were ballots cast. So you
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have 91 errors right there. Now, I just want to repeat that for the, for the, the audience,
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there were 9,100 plus votes counted more than there were ballots cast. So you know that those are errors
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by the tabulators in over counting. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Slow down for a second.
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Ballots are what counts. It's ballots that count at the end of the day. That's the first one, not votes.
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Are you telling me that you found that there were more votes counted than actually they had ballots?
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And this was all coming through the Secretary of State and the, in the local election officials?
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Yes, that's right. So, so you know that there's a, there's a problem right there and nobody seemed
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to care about it. Well, hold it, but hang on, hang on, full stop. You have an entire apparatus from
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the local level all the way up to the Secretary of State of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania that has
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to certify this. How can you legally certify it? If, if your numbers are correct, how can you actually
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go through a legal certification, sir? Well, there is no provision, evidently, for election officials
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certifying elections that they know have these errors in them. They just say so. And one of the
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things we put in the petition is we asked the federal judge to, to say that you cannot certify an election
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unless you can, you can say that the law has been complied with and there have been fewer errors than the
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Congress allows in the conduct of that election. So yeah, a federal or state and county officials
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were signing off on elections and verifying them without actually knowing them to have accurate results.
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Okay, hang on with Texas. So Marlee, how did you get, how did you and your group get involved in this?
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I picked up a clipboard in July of 2021 and founded New York Citizens Audit,
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which we began looking at what we thought were anomalies, millions of anomalies in the New York
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State voter roll database, where you have, you know, people registered to vote before they're born,
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people voting before they're registered, purged registrations, casting ballots, all this stuff.
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We said, oh, look at all these anomalies. Harry Howery and I founded United Sovereign Americans
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after we took all that data from New York and put it next to the law. And we said, this isn't anomalies.
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It looks like we might have uncovered over 5 million felonies in the New York State voter
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registration list that amounted in the 2022 midterm to 745,000 apparently illegal votes.
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Wow. I tell you, can you guys hang on for one second? We're going to hold you through the break.
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