Bannon's War Room - July 10, 2024


Episode 3747： Democrats Turn Their Back On Biden


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Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-D.C.) joins CNN's Rachel Maddow to discuss the Supreme Court's decision to grant President Donald Trump immunity from prosecution in the Russia investigation, and why she thinks he won't win re-election.

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00:00:00.000 Last week's presidential immunity ruling by the Leonard Leo-appointed Supreme Court
00:00:03.800 conservative majority all but put a nail in the coffin of the efforts to hold Donald Trump
00:00:08.220 accountable for his many alleged crimes before November's election. The federal election
00:00:13.060 interference case won't be returned back to D.C. Circuit Court Judge Tanya Chutkin
00:00:17.580 until next month, when the Supreme Court officially issues its judgment in the immunity case.
00:00:23.660 At that point, Judge Chutkin would need to parse through what parts of the indictment
00:00:28.100 could still be charged against Trump and that would likely require and that would likely require
00:00:33.440 evidentiary hearings to be held. That would be the last opportunity before the election for Jack
00:00:39.760 Smith to make public any of the damning evidence against Trump, including the possibility of having
00:00:45.400 high profile officials like Trump's former vice president, Mike Pence, testify at the hearings.
00:00:51.300 The Guardian reports that Trump's team is already preparing to fight to stop such hearings from
00:00:55.980 occurring. According to the Guardian, in the coming months, Trump's lawyers are expected to argue
00:01:00.600 that the judge can decide whether the conduct is immune based on legal arguments alone. If
00:01:07.380 prosecutors try to call Pence or his chief of staff, Mark Short, to testify about meetings where Trump
00:01:12.420 discussed stopping the January 6th certification, Trump would try to block that testimony by asserting
00:01:18.660 executive privilege and having Pence assert the speech or debate.
00:01:22.680 I heard from Senator Schumer there. There was this long, lengthy lunch that Senate Democrats had
00:01:27.580 today. And after my colleague, Dana Bash, reported that you, Senator John Tester and Senator Sherrod Brown
00:01:33.720 all said during that lunch that you don't think President Biden can win in 2024. Is that true?
00:01:39.180 Well, it's true that I said that. And I did say that behind closed doors. And you guys and others asked
00:01:46.620 whether I'd said it. And that is what I said. So I figured I should come here and say it publicly.
00:01:51.160 Why do you think he can't win in November?
00:01:53.120 I just think this race is on a trajectory that is very worrisome, if you care about the future of 1.00
00:02:00.880 this country. Joe Biden was nine points up at this time, the last time he was running. Hillary Clinton
00:02:06.440 was five points up. This is the first time in more than 20 years that a Republican president
00:02:11.100 has been up in this part of the campaign. Donald Trump is on track, I think, to win this election
00:02:17.880 and maybe win it by a landslide and take with him the Senate and the House. So for me, this isn't a
00:02:25.000 question about polling. It's not a question about politics. It's a moral question about the future of
00:02:30.440 our country. And I think it's critically important for us to come to grips with what we face if
00:02:37.020 together we put this country on the path of electing Donald Trump again.
00:02:41.300 So you're worried that your party is not just going to lose the White House if Joe Biden is
00:02:45.700 at the top of the ticket, but that you're also going to lose both chambers of Congress?
00:02:49.780 I think that we could lose the whole thing. And it's staggering to me. I mean, Donald Trump's
00:02:54.120 already been president. I thought he was the worst president that we've ever had.
00:02:57.980 How do we stop this case from going back to the Supreme Court? Because I feel like their best shot
00:03:03.220 would be to somehow appeal her attempt to hold the evidentiary hearing and somehow get it back into the
00:03:10.180 hands of the pro-insurrectionist majority on the court. Because if they did that, we already know
00:03:15.460 that whether it's John Roberts or Alito or Thomas, they'll shut it down.
00:03:19.860 So that's a really interesting question. I mean, obviously, all roads do lead back to the Supreme
00:03:24.220 Court. There would be a hearing before Judge Kachukkin about whether or not the hearing could happen.
00:03:28.640 That could be appealed onto the D.C. Circuit. And then any decision from the D.C. Circuit could be
00:03:33.720 appealed to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court, however, does not have to take this. And again,
00:03:37.880 so many Americans are up in arms about this immunity decision. 75 percent of Americans don't
00:03:43.480 believe that the president should have complete immunity from criminal prosecution. And they worry
00:03:48.900 that although the court has not given the president complete immunity, it has opened a quite wide door
00:03:53.500 to the president having immunity from criminal liability in the future. And they are understandably
00:03:58.840 upset about it. And so I wonder if the court, which has to rely on public opinion to some degree for its
00:04:03.540 own legitimacy, might think twice about taking up this case and handing another win to Donald Trump. 0.94
00:04:08.840 But the delay is really where all of the action is.
00:04:11.640 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going
00:04:22.820 medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people,
00:04:29.580 the people had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do
00:04:33.660 everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
00:04:36.660 And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul,
00:04:43.420 I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my
00:04:49.800 purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:04:57.020 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
00:05:00.440 Dave Brad in the War Room with Stephen K. Bannon. We open every show in honor of Steve. Behind him,
00:05:11.760 he's got a sign of the cross in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. We all are praying
00:05:18.680 for Stephen K. Bannon. We're praying for our country. We're all praying in the little cold open there.
00:05:24.720 Everybody's bringing up morality lately. And so maybe now is the time to go back to first principles
00:05:33.380 and all the great principles our founders set up to form a good republic. We've improved it along the
00:05:43.080 way. And so we're hopeful on the War Room that we have a great conversation. We got the Supreme Court,
00:05:50.040 Mark Paoletta is going to be coming in. But first, we're going in to continue the dialogue from this
00:05:56.000 morning with Dr. Naomi Wolf. She set up early this morning a bit on the piece she wrote in defense of
00:06:06.480 liberty. When conservatives and independents and classical liberals are missing from the fray,
00:06:13.680 she wrote a piece called What Time Is It? Implying it's late in the game and made some historical
00:06:20.680 references to that effect. And I think after that, I think we got enough time in this segment. I
00:06:27.560 apologize for earlier in the day. We had a quick, quick out. But Dr. Naomi Wolf, I think she's also
00:06:32.800 going to go into some big pharma news as well. And so, Naomi, thanks for coming back on with us at the
00:06:38.800 five o'clock hour. Great to have you on the War Room. And why don't you just take off where you left off?
00:06:43.120 Sure. Well, we were talking about this essay I wrote about Steve Bannon's incarceration.
00:06:50.120 And what I'm saying in the earlier show is that so much of the conditions at Federal Correctional
00:06:58.120 Institute Danbury are the outcome is to silence him. Right. And that, I think, is one of the goals
00:07:06.620 of this so assiduously sought sentencing. He can't speak to us, even in a recording. He can't,
00:07:15.200 as I understand it, access the Internet in such a way as to follow the convention. He can't advise
00:07:22.680 the president in real time. He can't text people. He's really, his voice is really silenced. He has
00:07:30.960 limited snail mail privileges, right? He can only be in possession of 20 postage stamps at one time.
00:07:39.960 And they're like what seemed just emotionally cruel, like psychologically burdensome conditions.
00:07:46.320 For instance, if a family member visits him, they can only kiss or shake hands at the start and end
00:07:52.400 of the visit, no hugging, no touching during the visit, even for family. And he has a limited number
00:07:59.920 of visitors allowed or visits allowed. And the restrictions depend on things as random as how
00:08:05.960 far they have to travel. I guess all of that being said, the takeaway for me is he's this alone achieved
00:08:13.260 what they've been wanting to achieve for so long, which is the silencing of Steve Bannon at this critical
00:08:18.060 four-month period leading up to the most important election of our time, in which his candidate is
00:08:25.300 now being acknowledged, even by the opposition, by the leading administration, the ones in power,
00:08:31.440 as at risk of winning in a landslide, right? So this is not a coincidence. It's not accidental.
00:08:38.680 But the second more important thing I want to say is this is not just about Steve Bannon.
00:08:43.560 I was very horrified to see a pretty muted response from even conservatives, with the exception of a few
00:08:52.080 outraged podcasts and articles in the alternative media. Many conservatives have been pretty silent
00:08:59.160 about Steve Bannon's incarceration. Libertarians have been silent. Centrists have been silent.
00:09:06.800 Certainly liberals, even those who claim to care about due process of law and the Constitution have been
00:09:11.880 silent. And this is really stupid and scary because it's not just about this prisoner, right? Just like
00:09:20.040 Julian Assange wasn't just about that prisoner. This is about all of us. And what people really need to
00:09:25.780 understand, which is why the title is What Time It Is, is it's one thing to be at the stage of a dying
00:09:32.260 democracy in which people are deplatformed, de-licensed, debanked, persecuted, lawfare, right? All of that is a mere
00:09:43.880 annoyance indicating the decline of a formerly robust democracy. But once the state starts to take
00:09:51.600 opponents into physical custody, once they take your body, then we've passed a point of no return.
00:09:58.740 And there are historic precedents. So what I keep saying is, it's the first six months of 1933.
00:10:05.240 And this is before the Nazis actually had a formal majority in the Reichstag. The SS and the SA were
00:10:13.000 mopping up. It's the mopping up of the opposition physically. They were arresting informally, right,
00:10:19.680 opposition leaders, critics, editors, journalists, clergy members who were outspoken, union leaders,
00:10:27.240 people who just didn't agree with them, and were standing fast in opposition to them. And they
00:10:33.560 took these people informally into basement prisons. They beat them up, or they disappeared them. And
00:10:39.880 it was no secret, right? And then the ones who survived went back and told the tale of their being
00:10:45.740 mistreated or silenced or beaten. And then within six months, all of German civil society had gone quiet.
00:10:53.800 The people who would be expected to stand up against Nazis didn't do so because they, too,
00:10:59.000 were afraid. And that's what I'm seeing, this silence, as if you let them have Steve Bannon,
00:11:05.180 they won't come after you, right? Or your podcast gets market share. Whatever nonsense is the
00:11:10.180 reason for the silence, relative silence, about Steve Bannon's incarceration is really wrongheaded,
00:11:16.540 because if they can take him, you know, quarantine camps, which they've set up right here in New York
00:11:23.300 State, we had to sue, or actually Bobby Ann Cox, a lawyer, had to sue the governor of this state where
00:11:31.040 I'm sitting to not open quarantine camps where people like us could be quarantined. They have
00:11:36.620 them in Australia, right? Dissidents are quarantined. Or hospitals where your loved ones can't come see you,
00:11:43.440 which happens often in lockdowns. All of these are conditions in which anything can be done
00:11:47.860 to the person whose body is in custody. And one of the things that really scared me about
00:11:53.680 FCI Danbury is that it's the prisoner's responsibility to go along with not to refuse
00:12:00.640 medical protocols. What does that mean, right? That's really scary. So in many ways, this is dangerous,
00:12:07.460 not just for Steve Bannon, but for all of us. And if we don't speak up now, in support of him,
00:12:13.720 but also in just opposition to having political prisoners in the United States of America,
00:12:19.320 which is not how our system is supposed to work, then it's not like, oh, they got him,
00:12:23.480 they won't get me, they won't get you. It's because of our silence that we will be next.
00:12:27.480 Yeah, well said, Naomi. And I applaud you and your logic, the way you generalize from what happens to
00:12:36.840 any individual in this country happens to us all, right? That's kind of at the guts of the moral
00:12:44.760 fiber that made this country special from its inception, right? That hope. It hasn't been
00:12:50.360 perfected. We were all, you know, fall short of perfection. But the way you put that is just
00:12:58.920 perfect. And it is interesting. I have some classical liberal in me, right? Uncle Milton Friedman.
00:13:05.640 And I liked, you know, many elements of the enlightenment, even though on the moral theory,
00:13:11.080 I don't think it closed the circle quite fully. And so it's very interesting. Sometimes it's hard for
00:13:18.520 conservatives, maybe to see our own selves clearly, but maybe you can see it better. And so
00:13:22.300 what do you think it is about conservatives? Liberals, right? The ACLU was initially formed
00:13:27.660 back when you had classical liberals, and they were shouting and screaming on behalf of minority 0.61
00:13:31.900 communities, which was the right thing to do for the liberty of every single person. And the
00:13:37.360 conservatives, we weren't doing it back then. And now conservatives are awfully quiet. As you say,
00:13:42.780 are we defective in some manner when it comes to making noise and protesting?
00:13:48.520 What's wrong with the conservative movement, where we, we can't make any noise?
00:13:54.320 Yeah, that's a great question. Well, I, I've actually thought about that a lot,
00:13:58.180 because I would have, there are critical points in the last few years, since I kind of, I don't think
00:14:04.320 I've switched sides, but, you know, I'm much more friends with you all than I am with my own former
00:14:09.620 team right now, certainly, where I would have thought that there would be a forceful show of unity
00:14:16.600 and resistance from conservatives, and there hasn't been. So I think one thing which is true is that
00:14:24.040 liberals do seem to be, or the left seems to be better able to organize, partly because we're not
00:14:31.320 philosophically committed to individualism. And so all of, all of you guys are like, you know, we're a bunch
00:14:40.180 of individuals, you know, we, we decide for ourselves, and that's awesome, but it makes it hard to, I gather, it makes it hard to kind of coordinate.
00:14:47.620 I would have thought, though, that the fact that so many of you have military training, that's just the best, but it's time to...
00:14:54.680 Very good. Back with Naomi Wolf in a second.
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00:16:13.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:18.700 Dave Bratt, in the War Room with Stephen K. Bannon.
00:16:22.640 And our special guest was in this morning.
00:16:26.040 Had the moral courage to write a fine piece in defense of Stephen K. Bannon and all the work they've done together over the years in the pharmaceutical industry on the Fauci mischief, etc.
00:16:41.900 And so, Naomi Wolf, why don't you, if you were done with the freedom argument, or if you wanted to close the loop on that,
00:16:51.120 and then give us the latest breaking news on the pharmaceutical industries as well.
00:16:55.620 And thanks again for being with us today.
00:16:57.920 Yeah, my pleasure.
00:16:58.700 Yeah, just to wrap up, it's, I think, it's interesting, you asked why conservatives don't seem to mobilize and kind of rise up as a group the way that I think they should at critical moments,
00:17:13.420 for instance, when one of their chief leaders is taken into custody.
00:17:17.060 And I think also one reason is they have an optimism about this country that is sometimes respectfully naive, given what history knows can happen.
00:17:28.620 And so I think they believe that, you know, it can never get that bad in the United States of America,
00:17:35.020 because they have this boundless faith in America, but America depends on people, right, to defend it.
00:17:41.200 So I think they need a little bit of kind of dark awareness of the 20th century in Europe to see what can happen in America.
00:17:50.140 So that's what I would say about liberty.
00:17:53.200 And it was very moving.
00:17:55.060 I read this essay last night on a live stream, and by the end of it, people asked me to pray.
00:18:00.960 And I've never prayed in public.
00:18:02.700 It's kind of embarrassing to people on the left to pray in public.
00:18:07.060 And I thought, I'm asking people to go outside their comfort zone.
00:18:09.460 I'll do that too.
00:18:10.280 And I did.
00:18:11.540 So we prayed for, you know, for the war room, for Mr. Bannon, for his posse, for his family.
00:18:17.100 And beyond supporting him through supporting his sponsors, which I know the family has asked us to do,
00:18:23.000 I do think that that has got to be helpful.
00:18:25.980 And if there's more that we can do, I'd love for the war room and the family to tell us,
00:18:29.960 because I'm inundated with people saying, what more can we do for Mr. Bannon and his family?
00:18:35.440 Yeah, outstanding.
00:18:36.460 I think you're exactly right.
00:18:37.900 I'm from Michigan and Minnesota, and, you know, up there, we're Minnesota nice and all that.
00:18:43.040 Now I say we're, I, I just say, I am Minnesota stupid.
00:18:47.280 And your phrase there was perfect.
00:18:50.540 Respectfully naive.
00:18:51.500 I didn't know about minority positions or justice or, you know, I just liked everybody up there, right?
00:19:00.520 It wasn't an issue.
00:19:02.380 And then now there's books out here that are serious by Glennon called National Security and the Double Government
00:19:07.560 that says us Madisonians are equally naive, right?
00:19:11.220 We believe in this separation of government, that it actually works when, in fact, the fourth branch is all powerful,
00:19:17.020 the administrative state.
00:19:18.720 And you've been working on that, the three-letter agencies.
00:19:21.660 And so he contrasts the Trumanites with the Madisonians.
00:19:24.720 And he's spot on.
00:19:26.500 And so that's a perfect transition into the Fauci, big pharma.
00:19:30.940 I'm a free market person that's looking for any semblance of a free market anywhere now.
00:19:36.460 I can't find any.
00:19:38.420 They're all, the Magnificent Seven are all monopolies.
00:19:41.720 I do not defend those.
00:19:42.960 Conservatism should not defend any of this nonsense.
00:19:45.880 Not only are they economically dangerous, they're politically dangerous.
00:19:49.660 And I think a lot of your work has done the nation a huge service.
00:19:53.720 So why don't you give us a few minutes on the breaking pharmaceutical news you have to share?
00:19:59.100 Sure. Well, that's a great intro, Dave, because, you know, Pfizer and its massive profits over the last few years
00:20:07.380 are a real example of kind of a Marxist centrally planned economy in which the government just handed over
00:20:14.320 billions of dollars in taxpayer money for a product that turned out to be murderously dangerous.
00:20:19.480 But the big news, it is big, is that Mikhail, I want to pronounce his name correctly,
00:20:26.060 Dolphin, the chief research scientist at Pfizer, and the one who was responsible for the rollout of Comernati,
00:20:34.660 which is the original name of the COVID-19 Pfizer shot in 2020, is stepping down.
00:20:41.740 There's no suggestion that it's his idea.
00:20:43.840 He's being essentially let go, it would appear.
00:20:47.680 And Pfizer is issuing kind of a press release to make it as nice as possible.
00:20:54.140 But the bottom line is the father of the COVID injection, Pfizer's COVID injection,
00:21:00.320 that Steve Bannon in the war room did everything to expose, right, through our efforts, he's gone.
00:21:07.560 The shot obtained initial authorization 2020, less than a year after scientists identified SARS-CoV-2,
00:21:17.840 and it made billions and billions.
00:21:21.200 However, that did not last, because as we've been exposing the problems with that injection,
00:21:28.440 it also lost billions and billions.
00:21:31.000 And I think that it's important to note that they're dramatically losing market share down to, here we go,
00:21:43.740 these setbacks combined with the quick and steep loss of billions of dollars in COVID-related drug revenue,
00:21:52.140 that's us, you guys, left Pfizer in a precarious position as it searches for a new research leader.
00:21:58.120 So, you know, I think we need a victory lap, even though our general was physically in prison.
00:22:04.440 He brought this about.
00:22:06.320 The posse brought this about.
00:22:08.160 They've lost billions of dollars because we exposed the fact that this was poison,
00:22:12.440 sterilizing, disabling, and murdering people.
00:22:15.400 And the guy who developed it has been booted.
00:22:18.920 You know, you're welcome.
00:22:20.560 Yep.
00:22:21.180 Naomi, thank you.
00:22:23.680 Thanks to the war room posse for putting the heat on Congress when you need to. 0.85
00:22:28.140 I think Naomi's right that we all need to start taking a deeper dive into the dark history
00:22:34.980 that has preceded us and how we got dark so that we can get to the sunlit uplands,
00:22:41.100 as Stephen K. Bannon always says.
00:22:43.380 Naomi, you're part of that bright light shining out there.
00:22:45.860 God bless you.
00:22:46.440 Thank you for all you do.
00:22:47.280 And we're going to have you back often.
00:22:49.340 And let's pivot now to, you bet.
00:22:51.460 Thanks, Naomi.
00:22:51.940 Let's pivot to Mark Paoletta on the courts and the reference back to the cold open at
00:22:59.100 the beginning of the five o'clock show.
00:23:00.800 Mark, sorry to make it disjointed, but some unprecedented moves here and language coming
00:23:07.260 from the president of the United States.
00:23:09.060 Can you please unpack that for us?
00:23:11.600 Sure.
00:23:11.880 Thanks, Dave, for having me on.
00:23:14.000 The left is still furious with the Supreme Court and is doing everything in an unprecedented
00:23:18.700 way to attack the court.
00:23:20.580 Last week, we saw President Biden, after the Supreme Court, end of the term last Monday,
00:23:27.100 attack the court.
00:23:29.100 And he had previously attacked Justices Thomas and Alito by name.
00:23:33.220 There's a New York Post story that I put up on my ex, my ex post, that looked back and
00:23:40.760 you really only find President Obama once attacking the Supreme Court.
00:23:46.900 You remember that with the Citizens United case in the State of the Union.
00:23:51.180 And Nixon criticized the court in 74 for a 68 decision on New York Times v. Sullivan,
00:23:59.300 which was the libel case, which made it a really, really high standard to prove defamation.
00:24:04.360 And that was when he was in trouble in 74 with Watergate.
00:24:07.900 But there's never been a president until Joe Biden, who had a primetime press conference,
00:24:13.920 right, four minutes last Monday, to trash the court and its opinions, not just the presidential
00:24:20.040 immunity decision, but, you know, the Loper Bright and abortion and all these other opinions,
00:24:26.420 the Second Amendment decisions by the court.
00:24:29.160 So he directly trashed the Supreme Court in a form and address to the nation, and then
00:24:34.900 he walked away and didn't take any questions.
00:24:36.900 And I take it he's either a coward or he doesn't have the mental capacity to field any questions
00:24:41.740 about the Supreme Court.
00:24:43.080 And my view is he always wants to outdo Obama, right?
00:24:47.940 He is so desperate for the left's approval, right, the lunatic left, as I call them, that
00:24:54.640 when he I think his advisor said, oh, Obama attacked the Supreme Court in 2000.
00:25:00.120 I think it was 12 on the Citizens United case, 2010, whenever that case came down.
00:25:05.660 Let's go out and do a primetime address.
00:25:07.760 And it just shows you the norm breaking, the dangerous nature of these attacks.
00:25:12.440 Remember, it was Schumer who stood outside of the front steps of the Supreme Court in 2020
00:25:19.100 during an abortion argument and literally physically threatened Justices Gorsuch and Caballero,
00:25:24.640 that they better vote a certain way or you won't know what hit you.
00:25:29.160 And, you know, that led to assassination attempts and 24-hour security on the justices.
00:25:33.680 So you saw Biden last week ratcheted up like we've never seen before in this nation.
00:25:38.900 And then we had just before the 4th of July, a wonderful day to celebrate America.
00:25:44.720 We should celebrate every day.
00:25:46.020 So White House and Senator White House and Senator Wyden, two big Democrat senators, sent a letter to the Justice Department asking Merrick Garland
00:25:57.700 to appoint a special prosecutor on Justice Thomas.
00:26:01.200 And so, again, unprecedented, you know, attacks on Justice Thomas in particular, where with the end of the term, the term just ended July 1st, an epic term, you know, not everything, but a great, great term.
00:26:14.920 This is the best Supreme Court in 80 years, OK, in a very, very long time.
00:26:20.280 And what's their response to that?
00:26:23.080 To try and launch a criminal investigation on Justice Thomas.
00:26:26.960 So, again, unprecedented.
00:26:29.240 And this is on these bogus ethics charges and recusal charges against Justice Thomas.
00:26:36.680 And finally, in a good development, Ted Olson, who is a longtime Supreme Court appellate litigator, one of the top lawyers in the Supreme Court bar, as it's called, he was a solicitor general under President Bush.
00:26:53.200 He won Bush v. Gore in the Supreme Court in 2000 during that election.
00:26:57.640 You know, a very, very talented lawyer, but not a MAGA lawyer in any sense, not a Trump supporter in any sense.
00:27:03.240 He issued, he wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal yesterday calling out the left for these attacks.
00:27:10.460 And it was really, I was glad to see Ted Olson step up and defend the court, defend Justices Thomas and Alito, not by name, but just essentially the left's attacks that were dangerous, trying to undermine the integrity of the court, and that citizens and lawyers should stand up and call this out.
00:27:30.820 And I've talked about this with Steve on this show before, Dave, that lawyers at the Supreme Court bar who practice before the Supreme Court, who know these justices, right, have worked for them.
00:27:42.540 Many of them are former Supreme Court clerks, should step up and say, this is outrageous.
00:27:47.300 They're going to defend them.
00:27:48.360 And that has been one of the deafening silences to me of none, very, very few lawyers.
00:27:54.640 So I'm hoping, I'm always an optimist, that Ted Olson's op-ed is going to unleash a lot of lawyers to defend the court, and specifically Justice Thomas.
00:28:05.040 Back with Mark Paoletta in one minute.
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00:29:49.220 War Room.
00:29:50.760 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:29:55.440 Dave Bratt in the War Room with Stephen K. Bannon and a special co-host, Mo Bannon, sitting in the War Room.
00:30:04.760 We've been having a great morning.
00:30:06.240 Great to have you with us, Mo.
00:30:07.640 We have.
00:30:08.340 Thank you, Dave.
00:30:09.700 Great.
00:30:10.060 We're going to finish with Mark Paoletta.
00:30:12.660 Mark, before we go on, you spoke of all the unprecedented attacks on the justices.
00:30:19.880 You outlined them all.
00:30:21.320 And then you went to two U.S. senators.
00:30:24.160 I was in the Congress a few years ago.
00:30:26.540 And the one virtue of the Senate and the senators is they usually don't do anything.
00:30:32.340 Right?
00:30:32.760 And that's a joke for people that don't know Congress, right?
00:30:36.000 The senators, they're risk-averse beyond comprehension.
00:30:40.340 They rarely take on more than one issue at a time.
00:30:44.620 And so for two senators to come out blasting the Supreme Court, that calls into question, something new is going on here.
00:30:52.560 There are new rules of the game up in Washington, D.C.
00:30:56.640 And it's a transition from classical liberalism, the kind that Naomi Wolf was describing, where we could all rely on the same rules of the game, to now just maybe irreconcilable philosophical differences.
00:31:11.700 And so what are the new rules of the game, where they just continually attack?
00:31:17.700 And it's just kind of Marxist deconstruction across the board.
00:31:22.040 It's not just Article III.
00:31:23.980 It's across the board.
00:31:24.860 But you're the expert here.
00:31:25.780 And so tee it up for us in a few more minutes, and then tell us how we can get a hold of you.
00:31:31.980 Sure.
00:31:32.520 Thanks, Dave.
00:31:33.340 Look, Wyden and White House, they have been the ones leading the charge, attacking the Supreme Court, attacking Justice Thomas.
00:31:41.760 You know, obviously, Ron Wyden, who's the chairman of the Finance Committee, doesn't care about sort of people violating tax laws.
00:31:48.740 He would have been looking into Hunter Biden and his notorious lack of paying taxes.
00:31:54.640 But it's all about, in particular, Justice Thomas just triggers the left.
00:31:58.840 He's been doing this for 33 years, writing originalist opinions and standing strong.
00:32:03.960 And he just triggers the left.
00:32:05.140 I think he exposes their racism.
00:32:07.060 And again, Biden attacked him, a former senator, you know, back in 1991 when he was a chairman, right?
00:32:13.060 Threw everything at him, lied about him, didn't believe in Anita Hill.
00:32:17.140 And that's contemporaneous evidence that he did not believe in Anita Hill.
00:32:20.460 And he led that high-tech lynching, as Justice Thomas called it.
00:32:23.520 And again, those attacks, you know, launched our greatest justice, the beginning tenure, right, of our greatest justice, which is Clarence Thomas.
00:32:31.120 And so he has stood strong.
00:32:32.980 He just finished up a great term.
00:32:35.780 You're right in terms of the—well, I'll say there's a double standard, too.
00:32:41.280 The Senate, they have a Senate Ethics Committee.
00:32:43.680 It does nothing, right?
00:32:45.000 You see Senator Menendez right now standing trial.
00:32:47.920 The Senate Ethics Committee has done nothing on him, right?
00:32:50.080 I think it's something, like I've written on this, 1,800 complaints filed since 2004, and not a single time have they sanctioned a U.S. senator or any staffer, I think, for anything.
00:33:02.060 And so, you know, there's a complaint against Senator Whitehouse for him helping his wife repeatedly and her clients.
00:33:10.020 She's an environmental consultant, and he's done all these things, you know, that benefit her clients and her pocketbook.
00:33:16.980 So that's what you see, the senators that just want to destroy the Supreme Court.
00:33:22.540 And again, one of the other things that Whitehouse is doing, the Judicial Conference under law is charged with administering the ethics laws for the judiciary, OK?
00:33:31.020 And he is bullying them to take actions against Justice Thomas, against other justices.
00:33:37.180 And it's really outrageous.
00:33:38.660 It's just thuggery at the end of the day.
00:33:40.380 It's not liberalism.
00:33:41.540 It's not classic liberalism.
00:33:42.760 It is a thuggish state where if you don't agree with me, I'm going to burn down the Supreme Court.
00:33:49.380 I'm going to attack it.
00:33:50.580 I'm going to raise questions.
00:33:51.740 I'm going to call you corrupt.
00:33:53.560 And it's all to delegitimize the Supreme Court so that they can pack it, right?
00:33:57.800 Now, we're seeing President Trump, thank God, he made those three appointments, and he is going to win in 2024.
00:34:03.840 And so we won't have a packing of the court, you know, but that's why it's so important to win in 2024, because I do believe that the Democrats won.
00:34:12.380 They would get rid of the filibuster, and they would pack the Supreme Court and put four additional justices on the court to essentially control it and make it their, you know, their entity to implement their left agenda.
00:34:24.620 That's why it's important to get out and vote, to support President Trump, to make sure the Democrats do not have that opportunity to do that.
00:34:34.160 Yeah, well, as Stephen K. Bannon always says, it's just a good thing we're heading to polls because the left is just going to hand over the car keys to us, and then we'll run things flawlessly following constitutional principles.
00:34:46.220 Not, right? That's the opposite of what he always says. They're not going to hand over the car keys.
00:34:52.960 Naomi Wolf just explained that conservatives are, in her quotes, respectfully naive, right? 0.70
00:34:59.500 Our side thinks we play constitutional rules that we're Cub Scouts, we're Christians, and the left is doing exactly what Mark Paoletta just showed.
00:35:10.600 And so we need to rethink, and then whenever we fight back, they gaslight us for our fighting language, and we're not used to it.
00:35:21.320 And so, Mark, thank you for that great summary. Where do people get you?
00:35:25.680 And you might want to call out Russ Vogt and the other great team members you got with you.
00:35:30.200 Sure. Russ is a great American, great patriot, doing great things.
00:35:33.100 I'm on X at Mark Paoletta, and I have a website, markpaoletta.com, where all my articles, I've written 50 of them that are up there on testimony.
00:35:42.540 And I'm at the Center for Renewing America, which is a superb organization supporting President Trump and his ideas.
00:35:50.280 Russ and I worked together in OMB in the Trump White House, and he's done terrific work.
00:35:55.440 It's a terrific organization. So thanks for having me on, Dave.
00:35:57.560 Yeah, no, thanks, Mark. Everybody support Mark, Russ, their group. Support them in every way possible, including your prayers, right?
00:36:06.140 The whole country's in need of prayer right now so that we can gain the courage that Eric Metaxas was talking about earlier in the program this morning.
00:36:15.500 Right now, we're shifting over to Sandy Smith. Sandy has some evidence of CCP involvement, right?
00:36:22.920 When we talk about the CCP, we're talking about the Chinese Communist Party, not the Lao Bajing, that Stephen K. Bannon is trying to liberate from this totalitarian surveillance state rule.
00:36:35.600 And so, Sandy, great to have you in the war room.
00:36:39.860 Why don't you tell us the breaking news down there from Carolina and what you're working on?
00:36:43.760 Thanks for being with us.
00:36:45.560 Thanks, Dave. Great to be with you and Mo this afternoon.
00:36:47.760 Hey, we had a great article come out of the New York Post this week in regards to Congressman Don Davis and his ties to the CCP.
00:36:57.520 We're finding out that we have more and more people in Congress and in government that have heavy, strong ties to the CCP.
00:37:06.740 Matter of fact, they're financing trips for these folks to go over to China through an organization by the name of Chinese People's Association of Friendship with Foreign Countries.
00:37:17.440 It's a fully paid trip, and this is so they can have control of these legislators.
00:37:23.940 And, you know, we all thought it was just Fang Fang's boyfriend that was tied to China.
00:37:27.760 No, we have a ton of them, and it's on both sides of the aisle, and we need to sound the alarms and protect our country.
00:37:34.960 They own here in North Carolina over 380,000 acres of farmland.
00:37:43.140 In my district alone, I think it's 6,500 acres.
00:37:49.300 And it's absolutely crazy.
00:37:51.180 And the thing is, this farmland is strategic not only to our food supply but also to national security.
00:37:58.060 They are purchasing these land that's, you know, very close to our military bases.
00:38:03.900 Here in North Carolina, we have over 13 military installations and bases here that are some of the most important in our country.
00:38:12.220 And we allow, you know, the Chinese weather balloons to come flying over, and now we're allowing them to freely come across our open border.
00:38:20.920 And now we're letting them control our food supply.
00:38:24.100 What's really interesting is one of the biggest holders of land here in North Carolina is a company by the name of Smith Foods, who owns, I believe, over 146,000 acres alone here in North Carolina.
00:38:39.080 They are one of the top four meat producers here in our country.
00:38:44.660 And if you don't think that is a national security, I really don't know what is, because if they control the food, they control the people.
00:38:51.680 And if we let them control our politicians, they control us.
00:38:56.100 And that is why it is so important.
00:39:00.000 Sandy, thank you very much for reaching out to war.
00:39:04.500 You're an inspiration in terms of us staying vigilant.
00:39:08.860 You're a perfect example of what a citizen should be in this great country.
00:39:12.880 How do people reach you to find out how they can energize themselves and their communities to keep their eyes open as well?
00:39:18.000 Absolutely. As President Trump says, we have to make it too big to rig.
00:39:22.780 You can find me on all social media platforms, Sandy Smith NC.
00:39:28.640 That's on X. That's on Facebook.
00:39:30.560 That's on Twitter and Telegram and Getter, everything.
00:39:35.940 And I'll tell you, free Steve Bannon and pray for enemies.
00:39:42.000 Yep. You got that right, Sandy.
00:39:44.200 Thanks for being with us.
00:39:45.420 I've been hogging the mic.
00:39:48.040 Mo Bannon, why don't you take over?
00:39:49.880 Who do we got up next?
00:39:50.900 First off, I couldn't agree with Sandy more.
00:39:52.820 Free Steve Bannon and, yes, pray for his enemies.
00:39:56.120 But right now we have someone who is very near and dear to the war room and has been a guest on the show quite often.
00:40:03.220 Caroline Wren is with us.
00:40:05.280 Caroline.
00:40:05.600 Caroline, so I know that you've come on here and talked about a Mr. Ringfield.
00:40:12.820 I believe that he was indicted and made an appearance in court.
00:40:17.780 So could you please provide us an update about Mr. Ringfield?
00:40:21.720 Yes, back to the most corrupt county in the country, Maricopa County, where, you know, we've been up in arms for weeks on this show.
00:40:30.640 Oh, the posse has about the arrest of Walter Ringfield Jr., who was a employee at the Maricopa County Elections Department, who was arrested about three weeks ago for stealing critical or access bobs at the Maricopa County Tabulation Center, which access critical infrastructure and the actual tabulators.
00:40:47.800 The press has largely not been covering this.
00:40:50.540 It's been a war room really pushing people to look into this.
00:40:53.180 And so yesterday, the Maricopa County Attorney's Office announced that he had been indicted, and he was indicted for three felonies and one misdemeanor charge, which they were in relation to stealing the ballot tabulator key fob from Maricopa County.
00:41:05.040 Then he also stole from the Arizona State Legislature one week before that.
00:41:08.440 And then also they came out last week that he was also caught on video surveillance stealing $9,500 worth of jewelry from the Phoenix Art Museum about one month prior to when he committed the felony of the key fobs at Maricopa County.
00:41:21.960 And so this morning, he actually entered a not guilty plea, which is interesting, and he's being held without bail.
00:41:27.860 But this is the part that is mind-blowing to me.
00:41:30.000 They set his trial date, and you won't believe, guess when this man is set to go to trial?
00:41:34.380 November 6th.
00:41:35.440 That means they're going to hold him in a jail cell without access to be able to speak to others, talk to press, until the day after the election.
00:41:44.580 Come on.
00:41:45.500 As your dad says, Maureen, there are not coincidences.
00:41:48.500 This is not a coincidence that they set the trial date for November 6th and the general election is November 5th.
00:41:55.160 You're 100 percent correct in the fact that he pleaded not guilty this morning when there is clear evidence that we've seen that you've shared on the show.
00:42:05.440 That he is guilty of this.
00:42:07.180 But the fact that he was not only investigated prior to that, but you said that a month before he stole the key fob, that he went and stole jewelry.
00:42:19.660 What makes you think?
00:42:21.400 Why was he even allowed to be in the vicinity of that building to steal the key fob?
00:42:26.500 Well, that's a really important question you just asked, because they did a press conference a couple days after the Maricopa County elections fraud, and they said, we do not think that this is politically motivated.
00:42:37.680 Well, if it's not politically motivated, then what?
00:42:39.520 It's financially motivated?
00:42:40.780 What's the resale value of two key fobs, like, on the street?
00:42:43.700 Five dollars?
00:42:44.720 Please, give me a break.
00:42:45.560 Like, the jewelry theft is an important piece of information because it shows clearly this guy needed money, right?
00:42:51.040 He was willing to commit a felony and go and steal jewelry.
00:42:53.900 So the question is obvious to me.
00:42:55.960 Who paid him to go and steal these two critical access bobs to the Maricopa County tabulators?
00:43:02.180 Someone paid him to do it, which is why I think he entered a not guilty plea or else – I mean, he's caught on video.
00:43:07.360 He's guilty as sin.
00:43:08.320 Everyone knows it.
00:43:09.060 So this is all on video.
00:43:10.600 So if you're going to be not guilty, it means you want to go to trial and you want to say, hey, someone told me to go do this, and, like, this is why.
00:43:16.000 But this is why it's so incredible to me that the trial – we won't know this until after the election.
00:43:20.740 So citizen journalists and the people need to continue to look into this.
00:43:24.020 This guy did not do this on its own accord.
00:43:25.940 He was directed by someone to do it.
00:43:27.860 And we all need to continue looking into him, his background.
00:43:31.340 And remember, this is a guy they're saying is not political.
00:43:33.600 He's been a Democrat operative for years.
00:43:35.220 He filed a run for U.S. Senate as a Democrat last year.
00:43:38.140 He's registered as a Democrat.
00:43:39.220 He requested a Democrat primary ballot.
00:43:41.020 A hundred percent.
00:43:42.460 Caroline, we're going to hold you through the break, and we can finish this discussion when we get back after the break.
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00:45:14.160 So you guys are here in studio with Maureen Bannon, not Stephen K. Bannon.
00:45:23.260 We are going to wrap up with Caroline.
00:45:26.020 Caroline, before the break, I know you were mentioning that someone must have been paying Mr. Ringfield Jr. in order to steal the key fob.
00:45:35.240 Can you please address that once again?
00:45:37.300 Yeah.
00:45:37.480 Yeah, it's just they've been gaslighting us since this arrest, saying that they don't think it's politically motivated.
00:45:43.680 And so, to me, if it's not political, it's financial, but there's no resale value of these fobs.
00:45:48.580 Now, this key fob he stole, it accessed only the Election Day tabulators.
00:45:53.420 Maricopa County, that's where it came out and said that in the press conference a couple days after he was arrested.
00:45:57.640 Why is that significant?
00:45:58.620 It's significant because, reminder, in 2022, in Maricopa County, 61 percent of the polling stations had the tabulators completely malfunctioned, which caused six-hour lines.
00:46:09.560 And these were only the Election Day tabulators.
00:46:11.880 In Arizona, you vote for one month.
00:46:13.340 For a month, the tabulators worked fine.
00:46:14.980 All of a sudden, only on Election Day, when Republicans are known to turn out, those tabulators failed.
00:46:19.920 And Maricopa County—Carrie Lake sued over this.
00:46:21.740 She's been in active lawsuits over this for two years, and people said, oh, she's a conspiracy theorist. 1.00
00:46:27.520 This was just some sort of mistake.
00:46:29.000 Well, now this shows no.
00:46:29.960 Actually, if a temporary elections worker wants to go take a job at Maricopa County, they have access to and ability to steal key fobs that only access those certain machines and could tamper with them.
00:46:41.460 Like, obviously, to me, that is what his intention would have been, or else why would you have stolen these specific fobs?
00:46:47.120 It doesn't make any sense other than someone directed him to or paid him to.
00:46:52.020 And this is why it's frustrating, because I don't know if or when we're going to be able to find that out, especially when you don't set a trial until after the general election in 2024.
00:47:00.820 And like you said, there's no conspiracies, and my dad says no conspiracies and no coincidences.
00:47:05.380 However, the fact that the trial date isn't set until the day after the election, something smells fishy, the fact that they don't want him to come out and speak to the media prior to the election.
00:47:17.120 And speaking of that election, I know you are a senior advisor or the senior advisor to Cary Lake, and a new poll just came out putting Cary Lake ahead of Ruben Gallego.
00:47:29.320 What is the way ahead for Cary between now and 30 July in order to seal a victory?
00:47:37.900 Cary Lake's race is looking amazing right now, and we're looking good across the country, quite frankly.
00:47:42.360 But Cary specifically, I'd say there's a top-three pickup.
00:47:45.360 The first one is West Virginia that's safely in the Republican quarter.
00:47:48.120 And then you have Montana, which should go our way.
00:47:50.900 And then Arizona is now the tightest.
00:47:52.500 And I've been saying this for a while.
00:47:53.780 President Trump looks great there.
00:47:55.280 Cary Lake looks great.
00:47:56.220 In fact, there's been six public polls in the last three weeks, all showing Cary either within the margin of error or up.
00:48:02.360 And so this is going to be the tightest, most critical Senate race in the country, I believe.
00:48:07.000 Cary Lake is so needed in the United States Senate.
00:48:09.700 Can you just imagine having her in there?
00:48:11.540 She will just be incredible. 0.62
00:48:13.380 And so the race looks very, very good right now, but we are absolutely not going to get complacent.
00:48:17.360 We just launched our bus tour.
00:48:18.620 So Cary is out four or five stops a day meeting with the people of Arizona, and we are moving full speed ahead.
00:48:23.960 But anything that you can do to help Cary Lake will be announcing a program for people to come if you don't live in Arizona,
00:48:30.160 but to come out for the two weeks leading up to the election and help get out the vote, poll watch, and different things like that.
00:48:35.340 So I would encourage people, if you want to organize, to do bus trips out to Arizona and help Cary, phone bake from home.
00:48:40.260 We'll be rolling that out in the next couple of weeks.
00:48:42.040 So we're excited.
00:48:43.400 Cary looks great.
00:48:44.220 The polls look great.
00:48:45.260 And I think that her and President Trump are both going to win Arizona and then go to the White House and the U.S. Senate.
00:48:51.720 That is amazing to hear, Caroline.
00:48:53.960 And where can the posse find you and find out more about this bus tour of Cary Lake's?
00:48:58.000 They can find me at Caroline Wren on Twitter, Get Her in Truth Social, and you can go to CaryLake.com for updates on her schedule and different volunteer opportunities.
00:49:08.880 Thank you so much for joining us tonight, Caroline.
00:49:12.300 And talking about President Trump, Mike Lindell was down at the rally.
00:49:17.920 And I know yesterday on The War Room, Jack Posobiec asked Mike if he would be President Trump's VP pick.
00:49:25.660 I know that was not announced yesterday at the rally, but the media has now attacked Mike Lindell for what he said on the show.
00:49:32.160 Mike, do you want to address what was talked about yesterday with Jack Posobiec?
00:49:37.600 I know you didn't say you'd be the VP, but what did you say?
00:49:41.880 Right.
00:49:42.120 Well, what I did say, I said, Jack, I said, no, he's never approached me on that.
00:49:45.420 And I said, but if Donald Trump asked me to do anything for the administration, I would.
00:49:50.160 And I said, I would hope that he would ask me to have something to do with maybe a new election bureau that we would have in the government, because our government deemed our elections critical infrastructure.
00:50:00.540 And maybe it'd be part of Homeland Security.
00:50:02.520 What a concept.
00:50:03.360 Protect our election.
00:50:04.520 That's what I said to Jack.
00:50:06.000 The media came out today and they've been calling me and attacking, going, you asked Donald Trump to run.
00:50:12.240 Mike Lindell asked Donald Trump to run our U.S. elections.
00:50:15.220 I haven't talked to him about that.
00:50:16.880 I mean, it's just this is how they spin stuff.
00:50:19.560 Then when you read the article, it doesn't say anything like that in there.
00:50:23.400 This but the hit job with the headline then gets every other media outlet calling me.
00:50:29.220 And I guess, like I've always said, everybody, it, you know, we at least I have the attack media attacking me so we can get the word out.
00:50:37.040 What I did say, and I even said it on stage at the rally, Marine, is our new program we have.
00:50:42.760 And do this in the primaries, too, everybody.
00:50:45.920 Request your mail-in ballot or your early ballot.
00:50:48.800 Get it.
00:50:49.540 Don't open it.
00:50:50.440 Get it in your hand.
00:50:51.600 And then when you go to vote, if you get there on the day of Election Day and they say, oh, I'm sorry, you already voted.
00:50:57.620 You got them on identity theft.
00:50:59.860 We lay this out at LindellPlan.com.
00:51:03.300 It's a 10-step thing that you can do that.
00:51:05.660 Then it's at the county level.
00:51:06.980 Everybody can understand identity theft.
00:51:09.740 That DA in Texas a few months ago, that Democrat, she went in to vote. 0.99
00:51:13.820 They said, I'm sorry, you've already voted.
00:51:15.360 She said, no, I haven't.
00:51:16.700 It got into a big argument.
00:51:18.060 They had to check into it.
00:51:20.520 But here, if you have your own ballot, everybody, and remember, it also protects your ballot.
00:51:24.840 It pulls it off the dirty voter rolls.
00:51:26.720 So this is what's needed.
00:51:28.800 We're going to need this new evidence anyway, whether a real president gets in or not, if they steal it or he gets in.
00:51:35.780 Either way, because he wants to get to same-day voting, paper ballots, hand counting, like they just did in the U.K. with the beautiful election, because the people got fed up with the five-year status quo, and they had a real election, not a selection.
00:51:49.740 So I just want to set the record straight there, Maureen.
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