Episode 3748: Disrupting The Grift On Cap Hill
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Summary
In light of the latest scandal involving Supreme Court Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas, what does it mean for the future of the Supreme Court and the country as a whole? On today's episode of War Room, host Stephan Kamb and co-host mark payletta break down what the scandal really is and why it's not a scandal at all.
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thing that we do have to underline here just so so viewers can can follow what's going on behind
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the scenes is is the Biden campaign and many Democratic officials do believe that Barack
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Obama is is quietly working behind the scenes to orchestrate this. Reasonable Americans will
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and do believe that justices Thomas and Alito are prone and subject to corruption.
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That the institution failing to punish them is broken and that consequently their impeachment
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is a constitutional imperative and our congressional duty corruption without consequence
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infects all it touches. And that is why this body Congress has a constitutional and moral obligation
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to hold these justices accountable. Moments ago Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York
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took to the floor to make the case why she introduced articles of impeachment against
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Supreme Court Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas. The resolution against Thomas says he
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engaged in high crimes and misdemeanors by failing to report multiple gifts of luxury vacations and
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travel. Impeachment articles against Alito focus on his refusal to recuse from cases related to
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January 6th despite his indicating sympathy with efforts to overturn the 2020 election
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by allowing symbols of support for those efforts to be flown outside his residency.
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So at the heart of all this right the heart of what we're talking about and we're talking about
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this story and the coverage of it is is not a scandal. There is no wrongdoing.
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The heart of it is the fact that an old man has gotten older and he's gotten older in ways that
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are not necessarily predictable because aging isn't after having the most stressful job in the world for
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three years and it is very clearly taken a toll on him. We can all see that. And now in the next four
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months he has to do the only thing that may be harder than being president more stressful and more
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demanding which is to be president while also running for re-election. Those are both full-time
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jobs. Beyond the incredible media feeding frenzy that that feels like a scandal is the one very
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obvious question which is at 81 having been the president now with all that stress is president
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biden capable of enduring the unbelievably taxing task of running the country and being a candidate
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who can persuade unpersuaded american voters in order to defeat donald trump. I think that in a sense this
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is long overdue because what democrats have served up for a year now is inaction on the corruption
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scandals that have rocked the supreme court uh some angry letters uh some public appearances but this is
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a leap forward in terms of seeking accountability and i think what aoc is trying to remind us here
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um is that federal judges serve for life with good behavior and that congress is well within its rights
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to decide that a judge or justice has failed to live up to that standard of good behavior and that when
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it does congress is really left with no choice but to begin impeachment you know we've heard for now more
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than a year from republicans well congress can't impose ethical rules congress can't impose an
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enforceable code of judicial conduct well if that's true and i'm not conceding it but if that's true then
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that only leaves the impeachment and removal power for congress and that is why aoc is using it right
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have had
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a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything in the world
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to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people like that go
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to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people had a conscience
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ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my country
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this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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thursday 11th of july anno domini 2024 harnwell here at the helm filling in for steve bannon who is
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in one of joe biden's federal prisons up until the november um november the first keeping him out
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of uh of influence for this general election campaign that's what the democrats need to do
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folks that's not news for you um i've got cash patel who's going to be co-hosting um with me this
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morning former chief of staff to the acting secretary of defense but we're going to go to mark payletta
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start off now uh to analyze and break down this initiative on behalf of the democrats to impeach
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two justices samuel elita and clarence thomas now my background folks i'll just just give a 30
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seconds here my background in politics as i worked in the house of commons at 25 to 20 years ago and
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and then um i worked for the same mp who was then elected to the european parliament and as his chief
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of staff in brussels i had a couple of insights there in the legislative environment and i'm going to
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share them with you now before we cut to mark and before we speak to cash um these are these are
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some of the uh the insights i had working in a in a political environment there is no idea so crazy
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that you won't see it mainstreamed from the peripheries and then implemented bear that in mind
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as we're talking about aoc now there is no idea so crazy so delusional so you know unreal so surreal so
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absurd that you won't see it in real time real time being dragged in from the peripheries to the
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mainstream and then implemented um the center-right response in this case in the american context the gop
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the center-right response will be performative they'll go through the motions um of opposing
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these resolutions they'll be weak their hearts won't be in it because look fundamentally these
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guys are in politics for the grift the revolving door right they want to do a bit of time in congress
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and they'll go out do a bit of lobbying on k street perhaps they'll go over to the chamber of
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commerce then they'll go back into congress it's all like a continuous thing right and for them donald trump
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is um not an agent of chaos he's an agent of disruption he's a disruption to their strategic
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paths of grifting of institutional grifting that's what the gop wants to do it wants to be able to do
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that to do that in peace donald trump and maga this great maga audience on the woman you're the you're
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you're you're the you're disrupting their plans to do that um without distraction okay so the gop
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response it would just be performative right as it was for example with steve bannon i overheard a
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conversation with it with a with a republican congressman last week i won't meet one of the good
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guys i won't mention his name and he was sort of saying oh yeah you know i keep thinking about how bad
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it is how terrible it is for steve bannon to be in prison and i keep saying to myself i wonder
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if we couldn't have done more and i felt like saying guys you didn't do anything you did absolutely
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nothing if you'd have really wanted to stop steve bannon from going to prison you'd have passed a
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resolution when you still had a majority of 20 saying that the j6 inquiry was invalidly constituted
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and by effect it's subpoenas invalid and then you would have given had something
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to steve bannon's lawyers to go to the supreme court and say this is a material um indication of
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how this conviction is unsound right those subpoenas were invalid right the gop response will be
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performative and on the back of it they'll send out emails and they'll do fundraising that's how they'll
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counter this maneuver by aoc right this is this is absolutely fundamental to the security of your
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republic what democrats are doing now the left third point the left has to have its way always when it's
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in power and the left has to have its way always when it's not in power that is a golden rule in all
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legislatures around the world um oh and the fourth thing which we'll come back later and and this is
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my experience having just come out totally vindicated totally absolved after four years
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five years of criminal inquiries here in italy um i repeat totally absolved there's no such thing as
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despite whatever anyone says there's no such thing as an objective meaning in in the law you might you
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might think because i thought in innocence having worked in on in a number of legislatures i thought yes
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what parliamentarians do they write the law and then the judges implement it there is no such thing
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as an objective meaning to the law that law finds its meaning when it when a case arrives before a judge
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and the judge has to has to say what it means that's when a judge that's when a law actually has a meaning
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we'll come on to that later right mark pay a letter um good morning to you um can you break down for us
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like because we saw the war room but we had war room impeachment they followed breath by breath
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blow by blow play by play here on this transmission the impeachment of donald trump in what way to start
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off because this is going to be a big thing now this is it's not just like like five minutes on on on a
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podcast we're going to be hitting this day after day after day because the democrats have you know have
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taken initiative and they've moved the needle here they brought an impeachment against donald trump
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too and now they're bringing bringing impeachments against supreme court justices this is the new
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normal can you play out for us for the war room posse here how does the an impeachment of a supreme
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court justice work is it the same way as a as an impeachment process for a sitting president president
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which from memory you might correct me here it was simple majority in the house of representatives
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and a two-thirds majority in the senate for conviction does there's an impeachment process
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for um um and i guess this is unprecedented i guess there hasn't ever been uh i don't know perhaps you
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could tell me here uh whether there has actually ever been an impeachment either successful or simple
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process for a supreme court associate justice or chief justice good morning to you and can you help
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now sort of explain to us exactly what's gonna what's going to go ahead now moving forward
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sure she um this is the the the the dying lashing out of this regime the progressive regime i really do
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think that they've been exposed uh the american people are on to them we need to fight hard and defend
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this but yeah aoc has has introduced these uh two articles of impeachment against justice thomas
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and justice alito when you read through them ben they're an absolute joke filled with lies filled
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with ridiculousness right and just they're just crappy pieces of work and there's no basis for them
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but but even in you know justice alito is being impeached because he literally you know allowed his
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wife to fly two flags they don't even have the uh you know they don't even name the appeal to heaven flag
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they say it's a flag associated with with uh you know insurrection um these things are jokes
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we need to beat them down hard in terms of these resolutions uh these and these articles of
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impeachment but they're going nowhere right it's in the house of representatives uh no one believes
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them as we're as we're seeing the democrats say things that they don't believe in right they say aoc
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says joe biden's fine sharp as attack uh you know and he's not everyone knows that we've known that
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we've talked about that for years uh it was on full display uh at the debate and before then
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but they are on the run that's why these that's why these articles were of impeachment were introduced
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because they need to deflect they need to get away from joe biden is incompetent and his mental acuity
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is gone uh the the articles you want to make a point mark mark sorry let me just so you're so
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basically that's a really important point here this is substantially a distraction operation isn't it
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to distract as is the fallout if you can call it over project um 2025 this is the mainstream media
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finding non-stories to go with in order to distract people's attention away from the fact
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that joe biden is no longer mentally competent is that right so yeah so ben remember uh and i've been in
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this town um we haven't met but i've been here since uh 1983 went to law school been in a number of
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administrations uh you know bill clinton bombed a country because he was being impeached right
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that was the classic wag the dog movie uh you know distraction so this is what the democrats do
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they're tried and true thing they they my view is they you are right they want to destroy their
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adversaries pulverize them you know zero you know a tolerance for dissent right and they go after
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people they target them they've been targeting justice thomas and just by way of background for you
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i worked on justice thomas's confirmation in 1991 i was a white house lawyer and worked you know side
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by side when those attacks came on him and how they went after him they had lost the battle of ideas on
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justice thomas right he was coasting to victory right he would have gotten more than 60 votes
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right in 1991 with a democrat senate was 57 democrats and what do they do they pull out the lies of
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anita hill right that's what they did this is what they do impeachment i was a lawyer at omb
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during the trump administration that signed the legal memo uh holding the funds for ukraine which
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the president was impeached on i do it again in a second president acted absolutely proper but that's
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what they do so they've debased impeachment that's what they've done they just made a political act
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right that has no meaning this is going nowhere but we need to use it expose how awful they are
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of the articles okay in if you folks if you've just joined us we're talking here about aoc's
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resolution which she introduced into the house um yesterday calling for the um articles of
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impeachment for justices associate justices currents thomas and samuel elita here's one of the the the
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charges if you will refusal to recuse from matters involving his spouse's financial interest in cases
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before the court now now he's denied that right but however however it's not true and here's he's he's
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not here's the point right fundamentally with with my third uh my third case that i mentioned in in
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the introduction democrats want to get their way when they're in power and they want to get their
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way when they're out of power right what they want is basically what has to be now one example of that
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principle is that is the miss uh not the misapplication the disequal the the the partial application
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of principles now even if this were true right and and clarence thomas says it's not true even if this
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was true where were the articles of impeachment on judge juan mershan right whose daughter now that is
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not open to question because the fact that he his daughter was fundraising for democrats on the basis um
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right of of of of mershan's conviction of of donald trump that is not in dispute that is that is
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objectively uh uh appreciated by all sides no articles of impeachment there right and there's
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a straight up conflict of interest there right so look this is what i've focused so the law says a
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judge a judge and the supreme court abides by the lower court uh laws uh the the the the federal law
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on recusals which is you need to recuse if your spouse is a party a lawyer uh you're going to be a
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witness or uh will have a substantial interest will be substantially affected by the outcome
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jenny thomas has nothing like that the so one of them was her financial she's never done anything
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in the legal lane she's been a political activist uh her her entire professional career there was no
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reason for justice uh thomas to recuse i point you to and i've written a lot about this there was a
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liberal judge as you talk about the partial application a liberal judge judge stephen reinhart who
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had the same sex marriage case uh in back in like 2011 2012 it's a celebrated case his wife was ahead
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of the aclu southern california chapter and she filed two briefs in the court below right that went up to
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judge reinhart and he didn't recuse and he said my wife's you you know my my views are my views my
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wife's to use of her own there's no reason for me to recuse and that the left machinery the legal ethics
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expert stephen gillers they filed a brief in the supreme court saying this is outrageous that you
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think that just a judge reinhart needs to recuse his wife had literally entered the case right
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in the court below and went up to him she was very vocal on the legal issues in that case
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so with jenny thomas there's nothing even close to that another one justice ginsburg's husband was
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at a law firm that repeatedly appeared before the supreme court and she never recused once
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from a single case in fact ruled in favor of marty ginsburg law firm's clients so you see this you
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know you saw justice ginsburg literally you know attack right try and stop donald trump from becoming
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president during the 26 campaign and everyone celebrated her right and she never recused from
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a case involving donald trump so that is just a complete ridiculous argument there's nothing there
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it's both consistent with the law that justice thomas didn't need to recuse and the double standards
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that the democrats show are just outrageous the second one is that they claim justice thomas didn't
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recuse because of his wife's involvement in the january 6th full disclosure i was jenny thomas's
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lawyer during those proceedings before the january 6th committee she went in for an interview
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right they went after her they had no reason and no basis to go after her
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she interviewed for four four hours produced you know she produced whatever relevant document she
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you know they asked for and guess what uh she wasn't named in the january 6th uh committee's
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final report which was 845 pages the this articles of impeachment says she's directing donald trump
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she's advising donald trump she's going into the legal strategy you know she's she's uh she's urging trump
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uh on on on on on his on his legal strategy and and the lawyers jenny thomas was texting with her friend
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mark meadows that is not advising uh you know you know the president on his legal strategy she was so
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uninvolved that the january 6th democrat appointed right and completely democrat appointed committee
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uh didn't mention her once in any hearings or in the final report so she's absolutely had minimal
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involvement in the january 6th uh you know issues and and again those are sort of you know she went
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to the she went to the rally has nothing to do with the legal issues okay there's no reasonable basis
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for justice thomas to have to recuse from the from uh those issues like presidential immunity and the like
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uh gifts they claim he didn't disclose gifts it is very clear okay and i've written on this a lot
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uh um 2012 the judicial conference had allegations that justice thomas was violating the law for not
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disclosing his trips with his friend harlan crowe both on his plane and and his boat okay he has a he
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has a friend who's wealthy okay he hangs out with him he goes on vacation with him the the judicial
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conference said he had done nothing wrong in 2012 he had complied with all the the the requirements
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of disclosing trips so all this entire section on you know not disclosing gifts is just a complete
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lie okay the judicial conference which is the body that runs ethics administers the ethics for the
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judiciary had taken up this issue in 2012 and ruled that justice thomas was in full compliance so
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right down the line okay on every single um harlan crowe bought his boyhood home to make it a museum
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okay his mother lives in that home okay as part of the negotiation because she's still living there and
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he wanted to own this home uh and make sure it wasn't torn down or or whatever um he gave her a
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right to live in it for the rest of her life okay um that was part of the negotiation in this articles
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of impeachment they say he's giving her free rent it wasn't free rent it was a you know a hand uh an
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arm's length transaction uh to preserve the boyhood home of what i consider our greatest living american
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and our greatest supreme court justice not a bad thing to do it's a great thing to do yet this has
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turned into a crime uh for these articles of impeachment so and then you have aoc right you're
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talking about this partial stand remember the stories on her going to the met gala and she gets a dress and
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her makeup and all of this stuff and she stiffs all of these workers she doesn't pay them right uh and
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and then there's finally i think a new york times or some sort of story about it and she finally pays
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and lies about how there was miscommunication no she was stiffing working class americans because
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she thought she's entitled right the the we're the ruling class uh give me my my stuff for free
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uh and then i'm going to impeach justice thomas for complying with the law it's ridiculous
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okay mark um i do want to come back on the on the technical procedures uh on how uh an impeachment
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against a sitting supreme court associate justice would enroll what the anatomy of this um would be
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right it would have to pass yeah oh go ahead go please please go ahead yeah it would have to pass
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the house of representatives right uh so that will never happen um and and if it were to pass as we saw
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with uh bill clinton right um or or even uh president trump uh it goes over to the senate uh and and and they
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have a trial where they would have they would you know presumably invite the justice that you or his
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lawyers to make his case um but it's never going to get that far but just to answer kind of run it
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through it would need to be i think it's two-thirds uh majority of the senators voting to convict um
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the person who's being impeached it'll never get out of the house this is just a stunt this is a publicity
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stunt by by by aoc but we do need to fight back hard then i agree with you and expose it for what it is
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which is they are trying to destroy the supreme court right for for many many years decades the
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left has controlled the supreme court with president trump's appointments right and justice thomas of
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back in 91 is the beginning of this this this great supreme court alito roberts uh in 05 um you know
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that it is now an originalist court the left has never had to deal with that in in modern times they
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had this reliable ally who was going to implement their left-wing agenda right always and so
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uh once trump made these three appointments and the court turns to an originalist court
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you know not perfect but but the best court in 80 years the court now wants to destroy it and burn it
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down and intimidate justices which triggered these assassination attempts so they are now on 24 7
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you know protection mark i want to come back to that point um but first let's bring in cash
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patel cash good morning to you hey good morning guys so you're you're you're following this um
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what's your first reading when you heard that aoc uh had had tabled the these um these resolutions
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of impeachment uh i thought it was one of those uh headlines from the uh daily the honeybee or whatever
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that west coast outfit is that constantly puts on uh yeah there you go babylon b um but i guess
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it's the reality as mark was uh you know outlining it's just uh i guess it's not a surprise because
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their knee-jerk reaction is to come in over the top and utilize the media to say this is normal we do
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this all the time why wouldn't we do this so if it's the norm might i propose that we take aoc's articles
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of impeachment and instead of the names of thomas and scalia we insert the names of every single
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federal judge that has applied the two-tier system of justice at the behest of merrick garland and
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president joe biden both criminally and civilly let's just do that how about the house republicans
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since they're not seem to be moving the machinery on impeaching garland and ray and holding them in
00:27:07.500
contempt let's see if we can use their own game board against them and let's see what the media's
00:27:13.100
reaction is um are you telling me that there isn't an actual federal judge out there who based on aoc's
00:27:19.740
guidelines actually committed the alleged crimes that she's talking about or the alleged violations
00:27:24.700
of the canons of ethics i think i don't know mark could probably name 50 off the top of his head
00:27:30.300
um maybe let's start with some of the jan 6 folks what do you think yeah so so again banning and cash
00:27:37.020
you're putting it right on the head in terms of what the left does uh i identified that um justice
00:27:42.940
jackson had failed to disclose her husband's consulting income right for malpractice cases for
00:27:48.780
10 years right and uh russ vote and the center for renewing america filed an ethics complaint against her
00:27:55.100
with the judicial conference it's gone nowhere right but for 10 years she's not
00:27:59.820
disclosed her husband's consulting income okay on her forms we'll be back
00:28:04.540
i want to warn you of a huge change that could be coming to our money in our bank accounts first
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think back to 9 11 shortly after the government pushed through the patriot act this gave the
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the wrong things on social media donate to the wrong causes buy firearms or even vote maga the government
00:28:58.620
may be able to shut us out of our bank accounts i can't say for sure if this will happen but it's an
00:29:05.180
interesting and dire warning fortunately jim rickards an american patriot and friend of mine has made it his
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rickardswarroom.com that's rickardswarroom.com now to see the video here's your host stephen k bann
00:29:40.540
hey welcome back to war room everybody good to be with the panel mark if uh do we still have you can
00:29:45.260
you give us a memory of what the house leadership and republican response should be and where everybody
00:29:51.500
can find you and uh read all the things you're doing sure thanks cash uh look they need to just
00:29:57.100
expose this isn't going anywhere right and and so but they knew to they they do need to expose and and
00:30:03.260
sort of focus on the fact that aoc is weaponizing the articles of impeachment against two justices
00:30:08.860
that they don't agree with it it's not a coincidence right that the supreme court ended the term on july
00:30:14.060
1st and these things were filed this week it wasn't a coincidence that senator white house
00:30:19.260
file a criminal referral with the department of justice on uh with and asking merrick garland
00:30:24.140
to prosecute justice thomas it's all because of their opinions it's all because they hate them
00:30:29.500
and particularly thomas because he's a black conservative and the left it you know it he
00:30:33.900
triggers their racism okay that's what's going on with with justice thomas in in a word so uh they
00:30:40.140
need to they need to again it's not going to go anywhere but they need to focus on it highlight it
00:30:44.780
show how the left wants to tear down the supreme court make this an issue for the election
00:30:48.780
okay president trump won 2016 in my view because of the supreme court lots of things but the
00:30:54.540
supreme court and how he was going to appoint conservatives and he did that and you know and
00:30:59.580
fulfilled his his promise and it's made it the greatest court in in in modern times um you could
00:31:05.580
reach me at at mark paoletta on x and i have a website mark paola.com all my articles i have a lot
00:31:13.100
of articles op-eds defending the court and all these and pushing back on these attacks with receipts
00:31:18.620
statutes examples the hypocrisy of the left i urge the posse to go check it out it'll educate you
00:31:25.180
and you will be well armed and then of course i'm at the center for renewing america a fantastic
00:31:29.340
organization run by russ vote uh who i work with it at omb in the trump white house and um and and and
00:31:35.420
go to their website for more information great thanks so much go ahead mark before you before you
00:31:42.140
jump by and we'll be talking about most folks a little later on in the show as well um you know who agrees
00:31:47.500
with you on your analysis on this axios here's the article that they they put out today on uh aoc
00:31:54.060
unveiling the articles of impeachment right at the top of the article second line it says this why it
00:32:00.700
matters it's a long shot element of a broader legislative push by house democrats to reign in
00:32:08.780
the court after a spate of decisions in june that incensed liberals it's right there in your face this is
00:32:16.780
exactly what this is it is this is the democrats trying to reign in the supreme court because it's
00:32:22.780
produced decisions that don't that aren't pleasing to democrats and it's up front in your face and
00:32:28.860
they're not they're not even trying to hide it so i thought you'd be interested mark to hear that axios
00:32:33.900
agreeing with you 100 on your analysis last thing here guys look the the the the the new supreme court
00:32:41.580
is just kind of just a game changer in america right thank god for donald trump's three appointments
00:32:47.340
what you saw was schumer standing on the steps of the supreme court physically threatening
00:32:51.500
corsage and kavanaugh on an abortion vote right that led to the assassination attempt in my view
00:32:56.620
in 2022 right you had the dobbs opinion right and and that was the assassination attempt in 23
00:33:03.420
was the affirmative action case right that struck down race-based affirmative action and they went
00:33:08.140
after justice thomas every single spring now they will ramp up these attacks in the supreme court
00:33:13.420
and this is just the next step right criminal referrals and impeachment this is 24 you know
00:33:19.340
welcome to the new welcome to the new world but here's the thing the left is on the run right
00:33:24.140
this supreme court is the greatest supreme court in modern times and it's going to protect our liberties
00:33:29.340
and the constitution and this is what the left's response is to try and destroy it
00:33:33.580
try and make their lives miserable that's why they have 24 7 protection right because the left has
00:33:40.620
has triggered lunatics to want to go take go after the justices mark thanks very much god bless catch you
00:33:47.580
tomorrow thanks this is going to be a developing story this is going to dominate i think the conversation
00:33:54.620
for the next few months cash let me ask you a question here what do you think because there are
00:33:59.420
different schools of opinion as to what an incoming trump administration should do here should it try to
00:34:05.900
de-escalate the doj um and try and sort of tone down the tenor of debate or should instead the trump
00:34:14.540
administration use the weaponized doj to do to democrats exactly what democrats have been doing to
00:34:20.860
republicans which which side do you come down on this it's simple we just follow the constitution
00:34:29.260
they're the ones that project how we are the ones that are rigging and scamming the rule of law and
00:34:35.340
justice in the courts and in reality we are the ones that have caught them utilizing a weaponized
00:34:41.580
system of justice and intelligence and defense whether it's russia russia russia whether it's 51 intel
00:34:47.420
letter whether it's the bogus jancic's insurrection narrative whether it's the national guard issue and
00:34:53.260
whether we're talking about impeachments the classified documents case joe biden hunter biden's laptop
00:34:58.300
what have you all they have done is told us we were wrong about every single one of those things
00:35:03.900
and we were right because we put the truth out and all we have done is wanted the american people
00:35:08.700
to receive the truth so that that's what they use on voting day to elect our leadership in washington
00:35:14.700
and around the country and since we've been proven right each and every time for telling the truth
00:35:19.900
they hate us and so i think look as a former doj national security division prosecutor guy there is no
00:35:25.580
vengeance there's simply the constitution and we cannot allow the left to preemptively issue headlines
00:35:32.940
as if we are the ones distorting justice if you in the left or anywhere broke the law and you happen
00:35:39.980
to be in a leadership position in government so be it you must be held accountable whether it's criminally
00:35:44.860
or civilly and whoever you worked with to do so we are not going to raise bogus investigations
00:35:51.500
for political headline grabs like the left is doing like the aocs of the world are doing and saying hey
00:35:56.940
we have to um you know impeach these people we don't have anything left to do but um yeah i mean i
00:36:02.380
can i mean the two-tier system of justice is something i can rant on forever but i think we've got hammer on
00:36:06.460
deck uh and let's put him in the hot seat great listen i'm going to hand over to you now cash because
00:36:13.500
you're going to co-host the rest of this segment with josh hammer josh good morning to you uh i don't you know
00:36:19.900
this is good now this is an interesting thing here because which one of us is really in studio and which
00:36:25.260
one of us is using the green screen that's that that's going to set up some debate uh on the getter
00:36:31.260
live chat oh i'll give a shout out to to the to the getter live chat rumble live chat um telegram
00:36:37.980
live chat and the rav live chat before i hand over to cash love you guys you look fantastic uh
00:36:45.500
that interaction on the live chat cash josh i'll hand over to you guys now and i'll catch you um
00:36:51.500
the posse a little later on today for the evening show um tonight thanks very much god bless
00:36:59.820
camera good to be with you man um i think you look better in studio than anyone i've ever seen before
00:37:05.020
don't tell that to i said that to bannon um uh but what do you think where does this so look we've got
00:37:10.380
i think everything we've been talking about on the show today leads to the one confluence point
00:37:17.340
that is joe biden so what are they going to do with it like what is the outcome here are they
00:37:23.340
really going to take him out how are they going to do that are they going to keep him in is george
00:37:27.180
clooney going to run for president yeah cash i don't buy it i mean i i have been a skeptic of this for
00:37:33.900
over a year now i mean this conversation has been going on for a very long time it obviously accelerated in
00:37:39.340
the aftermath of joe biden pooping his pants in front of the whole world in the cnn presidential
00:37:43.580
debate there but this conversation has been going on slightly more in the background for a very long
00:37:48.140
time and i have said again since the beginning that he's not going going anywhere literally as
00:37:54.140
long as he has a pulse obviously if he stops breathing and his heart stops pumping then we
00:37:58.460
have a different conversation there but i have a few reasons for this one is joe biden has been
00:38:03.420
here in washington dc for literally a half century he first got here in 1974 he has run for
00:38:08.780
president three times the first time was before i was even born in 1988 he has wanted this office
00:38:15.260
for essentially his whole life and good luck trying to convince not just him but his lady macbeth wife
00:38:21.420
so-called dr jill good luck convincing them at this point to just give up the reins of power
00:38:27.180
now that they have it so that's point number one i i mean i i just don't see the actual convincing
00:38:32.700
working and point number two which is kind of a direct corollary to that is
00:38:36.780
every time that you have now a new democratic backbencher whether it's some random congressman
00:38:41.580
or senator welch from vermont who just comes out and says he's got to go i i think lady macbeth and
00:38:46.940
uncle joe just dig in their heels even further because they still feel peaked they still feel
00:38:52.220
aggrieved by what happened in 2016 that it's kind of a not very well-kept secret that the obama and
00:38:58.060
biden camps don't really like each other very much because biden felt like he should have been the
00:39:02.620
anointed successor to joe biden and then obama chose hillary clinton and we all know what happened
00:39:07.100
there when donald trump won that election heard around the world in 2016 so you kind of add all
00:39:11.500
this psychology combined there and then i think there's there's two other factors that i guess i
00:39:15.580
should probably just also briefly mention so i had on my own show the josh hammer show last week
00:39:19.740
trey trainer who's a sitting fec commissioner on the federal election commission and we kind of got
00:39:24.060
into the nitty-gritty of the actual federal campaign finance law democrats have a huge huge
00:39:29.180
huge problem on their hands if they actually try to change horses midstream like that that's the
00:39:33.020
basic takeaway from my conversation with commissioner trainer we are in unchartered waters of unchartered
00:39:38.220
waters when it comes to what happens to the 200 plus million dollars currently sitting in biden harris
00:39:43.260
campaign coffers a lot of people in the commentariat are saying okay maybe if you swap in kamala then
00:39:48.380
the money stays there it's actually not even clear because those donors cash they donate specifically to
00:39:53.580
the biden harris campaign not to harris whitmer harris newsom whatever so there's some serious
00:39:59.340
serious legal obstacles there as well and then the final point that i'll make here which again i've
00:40:03.580
been saying all along recall that this is a political party this is a party that literally
00:40:08.540
chose katanji brown jackson for the u.s supreme court two and a half years ago when stephen bryer retired
00:40:14.140
literally because she was a black woman they didn't care about the fact that two percent of lawyers
00:40:19.500
across the country happened to be black women they didn't care that they limited themselves to two
00:40:23.900
percent of the national lawyer pool because their intersectionality their identity politics that is
00:40:28.940
their modern day pagan god so good luck at this point trying to shunt aside the first vice president
00:40:36.220
of color i guess would be the correct nomenclature these days it's just it's just not going to happen so
00:40:41.660
i i think that this is kind of a a grand display of ultimately incompetence and ultimately just impotence
00:40:48.220
from democratic media elites who are shouting into the ether trying to make this happen but
00:40:52.860
because of all these nuts and bolts factors i just don't see it happen no hammer thanks for setting
00:40:57.180
me up and the audience is going to think we had like hours and hours to prepare on this but we
00:41:00.780
literally are just meeting right now i'm going to rant for about 30 seconds to bring you right back
00:41:04.860
on the kamala harris issue i have to rant for a little bit i find it as an indian american wildly
00:41:10.860
offensive that kamala harris who is half indian and raised by her indian mother is always referred to as
00:41:16.460
black or african american when her father is from jamaica if you told that guy he's an african american
00:41:21.900
he'd probably punch you and so your point about race politics identity politics or whatever you
00:41:27.100
want to call it and the mainstream media comes in roaring behind them to say we would love to have a
00:41:32.060
first black woman as president what about her actual heritage i mean they don't even care what it
00:41:37.180
is they just want to use whatever sells the best and so um you know that's me on my indian american
00:41:42.220
soapbox i'm sure the fcc is going to come in here and shut down war room in a hot minute
00:41:45.740
but while we still have you hammer we'll hold you through the break we've got about 90 seconds
00:41:49.500
you outlined a a perfect landscape and i didn't even think of the financials honestly that's really
00:41:55.180
brilliant most people aren't even thinking about the hundreds of millions of dollars
00:41:58.380
that is poured into biden harris what happens to that where do you see going in about 90 seconds
00:42:04.140
we'll hold you over but where where do you what do you think is going to become of this in the next 30
00:42:09.180
days in the lead up to their democratic convention so i think that biden's not going anywhere cash
00:42:15.260
and the more that he doubles down i mean his letter to congress on monday was pretty clear i
00:42:20.060
mean he wasn't really not mincing any words there i guess the best that he can given the
00:42:23.500
fact that he can't coherently finish a sentence in the english language but he was really not mincing
00:42:28.140
any words and if they just ride this out for another week look the rnc trump are going to get
00:42:33.420
all the headlines next week so that will be a week where biden's relatively speaking out of the
00:42:37.180
spotlight again so if they could just ride this out for another week i think he basically survives
00:42:42.140
at this point maybe the only thing that would convince him maybe is if literally all the democrat
00:42:48.220
leaders in congress so schumer jeffries all them if they just do like an intervention of sorts in
00:42:53.660
the oval office maybe maybe maybe but i don't see it happening because again the logistical hurdles
00:42:59.180
are so high there are serious logistical legal hurdles preventing this from happening and the
00:43:04.700
more that these quotes get out there the stupid george clooney op-ed that this that you're just
00:43:08.940
feeding rnc and trump attack ads on the airwaves in october so i think eventually that the media
00:43:14.380
and these democratic backbenchers will shut up and basically get in line so i'm gonna hold we
00:43:18.300
got 10 seconds i'm gonna hold you over but when we come back i want to talk about the irony of the
00:43:22.780
25th amendment and whether or not these democratic leaderships that you just uh outlined will use them
00:43:27.580
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00:45:04.060
all right we are back here in the war room i got hammer i'm coming to you live from the sun coming up out
00:45:08.780
here in las vegas nevada for all you east coast heathens out there there is a great american country to the
00:45:13.980
west of the mississippi um i don't know why they allowed me to co-host war room it's probably the
00:45:18.780
worst idea that media has ever had but we're gonna see how this goes hammer we were talking about the
00:45:23.900
25th amendment and the irony of the democrats saying oh you got to take out donald trump with the 25th
00:45:31.980
amendment he's incapacitated he doesn't have the ability to govern um explain to us your thoughts on
00:45:38.780
will the dems because we know they have no boundaries and they're the biggest hypocrites
00:45:43.820
will they actually use the threat of the 25th privately and how would that work against joe biden
00:45:50.460
so the short answer is no they're not going to use it it's a fun talking point the 25th amendment
00:45:55.020
comes up every so often i mean let's step back and like actually walk through just briefly the
00:46:00.060
history and the context of the 25th amendment so this was ratified in 1967 in the aftermath of
00:46:05.900
the jfk assassination and they basically did it because it was all the chaos lbj getting sworn in
00:46:11.260
and they were just trying to solidify essentially how succession works when a president is incapacitated
00:46:18.300
is literally comatose or god forbid if the president dies you know it was never meant to be an excuse
00:46:25.100
for a palace coup or an excuse for just some sort of internal power struggle between the president and
00:46:32.140
the vice president and more specifically so it's actually section four of the 25th amendment that
00:46:37.340
people are currently invoking here that's the section that provides that when the vice president
00:46:42.060
and a majority of the cabinet or i believe a two-thirds majority of congress but we really
00:46:47.580
typically focus on the vice president and majority cabinet if they combine to state solemnly and they
00:46:53.260
sign whatever that the president is incapable of discharging his duties then he is removed but again
00:46:59.900
cash i mean i don't have to tell you i mean this is kamala harris you know this is like
00:47:03.900
this is a transportation secretary pete buddhij alejandro mayorkas at dhs i mean more accurately
00:47:10.460
really not at dhs i don't know where he is in any given day because he's obviously horrible uh tony
00:47:15.260
blinken at state i could go on here i mean the notion that these people are going to agree a majority of
00:47:20.620
them to stage a coup against joe biden it's ludicrous it is good political theater you know it may or may
00:47:27.420
not be good for the country given the fact that he's a corpse that will keel over and die at any moment
00:47:32.620
but you know then you get kamala harris so i guess good luck pick your poison but it's not going to
00:47:36.940
happen and you're right you know to your point yeah go ahead sorry that roster call for me for
00:47:43.820
the first time just illustrated how difficult that would be when you actually went through the names
00:47:48.380
because i don't think people bothered to see who is going to move that kind of machinery but i think
00:47:53.580
there is an individual or individuals in the media that would love to see that kind of machinery
00:47:58.700
and i got i got queued up for you um something that i'd like you to comment on your best friend
00:48:03.260
joy reid had a another nuclear meltdown over religious affiliations and i'd love to get your
00:48:09.420
take on this we've talked about the embrace of religious fervor on the religious right i mean on
00:48:16.140
the american right and why it is dangerous the republican party in this era of donald trump has allowed a
00:48:22.140
small fringe white christian nationalist movement to control the way the party and much of this
00:48:27.740
country operates and so now proud christian nationalists are having their moment not just
00:48:33.420
creeping into the culture but seeking to revamp and define it charlie kirk professional troll and
00:48:38.700
founder of turning point usa embraces christian nationalism and says things like christians need
00:48:43.740
to view the election as a spiritual struggle to save western civil civilization and that trump is crucial
00:48:50.060
to restoring morality in america right the convicted felon sexual abuser equals morality it's the kind
00:48:57.020
of stuff that makes your brain hurt because it makes no sense then there's the interesting choice
00:49:02.860
by the new york times to platform a far-right christian extremist musings on why he doesn't vote which is
00:49:08.700
code for hey maybe you shouldn't vote matthew walther editor of a right-wing catholic literary journal
00:49:15.020
writes why does anyone vote i ask myself the answer cannot be that we believe that by doing so we
00:49:21.180
will influence the outcome and election no actually that's exactly why i vote and why everyone votes
00:49:26.780
as it turns out though the new york times has since made a correction after internet sleuths pointed out
00:49:32.220
that this op-ed writer did in the two most recent election cycles wait for it vote not voting of
00:49:38.700
course means choosing a devastating agenda for lgbtq people women and girls brown and black people
00:49:44.540
basically anyone who doesn't look like charlie kirk or matthew walter okay hammer there's only so much
00:49:50.620
a joy read i can take and since i don't support christian nationalism i guess that makes me a
00:49:56.060
communist or some sort or or maybe a racist or i don't even know what but i know you're in dc for
00:50:01.020
nat con and you're the perfect guy to comment on what she was blathering on about what's your take
00:50:07.340
yeah good old joyless joy read is my buddy from home call sir look i so i am here for nat con you
00:50:14.060
know cash my panel that i spoke on two days ago actually was titled separation of church and state
00:50:19.660
has failed and you know this panel was interesting because i'm jewish when my co-panelist was catholic
00:50:24.700
and there were two protestants on the panel and we all agree that so-called separation of church and
00:50:29.260
state which by the way is not actually there in the first amendment if you actually read the first
00:50:33.580
amendment it very simply says that congress shall make no law respecting and establishment of religion
00:50:38.380
it says nothing whatsoever about a so-called separation of church and state wall which comes
00:50:42.460
from this basically a tweet it comes from a 233 word letter that thomas jefferson wrote in 1802 it's
00:50:49.660
crazy but more generally speaking this debate over nationalism and christian nationalism look america
00:50:55.660
was founded as as a deeply religious country now it's true that they said congress shall make no
00:51:01.260
law respecting an official state religion but it was actually just a federalism provision clarence
00:51:06.300
thomas has said this over and over again he's totally right they did that so that the states
00:51:09.980
could actually establish their own churches and in fact they did that well into the ninth century in
00:51:14.620
fact that noted far-right fascist bastion of the commonwealth of massachusetts had an established
00:51:20.140
church of congregationalism all the way until 1833 i think connecticut might have gone even longer
00:51:24.940
there so the notion that religion in public life was anathema to the founders has no credibility
00:51:31.180
whatsoever the founding was deeply deeply inspired inspired excuse me by the bible by scripture
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benjamin franklin famously wanted the great seal of the united states to be moses parting the red
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sea for the israelites to cross from from pharaoh and the egyptian pursuers there any number of other
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examples as well there look america cash and i say this as a jew america is a better place when it is a
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more christian place america is a more powerful country when christians are emboldened to be more
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publicly and visibly and politically active christians in the public square christians are
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better jews are better all americans are better and the country is better as a whole i think you
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can tie basically a direct line from declining church attendance in this country to so many of
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the woke maladies that we are currently facing and the idea that you have to be a white man to say
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this it's just it's just absolutely nuts i i don't buy it for a second cash okay we got 30 seconds
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i think you surmised it pretty well somewhere everybody can find you working on in the book
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yeah so i'm on twitter at josh underscore hammer instagram is josh b hammer i host two shows the
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