Episode 3756： WarRoom Special Coverage： Live From The RNC 2024 Day One
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Alex Blumberg joins me to talk about the knee-high protests in Washington, the deep state's attempt to delegitimize Trump s presidency, and why we should all be worried about the possibility of an assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
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dictator, tyrant, dangerous, threat to democracy. I cannot in good conscience endorse Donald Trump.
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We don't take an oath to a king or queen or a tyrant or dictator. We don't take an oath to a
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wannabe dictator. We worked with him. We knew him. This man is unfit to be president. A second term
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would be more dangerous than a first. Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-un, they're fully
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prepared to take advantage of him. Yes, I do regard him as a threat to democracy for all those things
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that make America great. Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath. Why are
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they taking the knee and why are they doing it in such humiliating fashion, including Mitch McConnell?
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Well, these are classic authoritarian dynamics. And the saddest, one of the saddest things about
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authoritarianism is it asks you to betray not only your compatriots when they start getting hauled
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away for deportation, you turn the other cheek or you abet the violence, but it asks you to betray
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yourself. And it's a kind of moral collapse that, you know, having Trump back on Capitol Hill, I see
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this as a kind of symbolic undoing of January 6th, where he had Republicans running for their lives.
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These were people who were calling their loved ones to say goodbye. Some of them, you know, escaped harm
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by 20, 30 seconds. And authoritarian leader cults require you to submit to that and then forget
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about it. Forget about your own well-being and instead clap the leader who has humiliated you
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and put you in harm. You don't always get choices in your love. You get what mom made for dinner or take
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your ass a bit. And in this case, it's either what mom made for dinner or Hitler.
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I'm voting for whoever ain't Hitler and it ain't him. And I'm going all the way down that ballot,
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rooted to the Tudor school board, up to the White House. This is about power and about picking not
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Hitler. That's it. That's it. That's me. Okay. Now I'm really done. They can't win on policies and
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they can't win on execution. Look at Trump's, look at the lived experience of the country under Trump,
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the economy, peace and prosperity. So it's just not policies. It's a guy that can make it happen.
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They said, well, everybody, you know, all the donors, oh, well, you know, we like Trump's policy.
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We don't like Trump. Dude, you got to execute the policies. You think this just happens? Oh,
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we're going to announce something that just happened? It doesn't even happen in the government.
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What do you think internationally? You need a strong, tough individual.
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Beattie, walk me through this. I don't want to get to the Kagan piece because Darren Beattie is right
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and his piece is magnificent. He's the only one to call them out to their face. They're trying to set
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up Trump for an assassination. Let me repeat that. They're trying to set up Donald Trump for an
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assassination. They are trying to take out Donald J. Trump personally. Darren Beattie, walk me through
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your case. I agree. I do not think it's beyond this administrative state and their deep state apparatus
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to actually try to work on the assassination of President Trump. I think everything's on the
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table. I think his security ought to be at the highest it's ever been. And honestly, I think he
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ought to and I think he should have flown down at Mar-a-Lago this morning, walked out there at
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noon today and said, hey, I'm running for president of the United States. Suck on that.
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It's not just that Donald Trump poses a threat to democracy. It's that Donald Trump only cares about
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himself. This is a populist looking to serve his own interest and harm other people and
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dismantle our democracy and make it just about himself. This is a guy who's doing it on behalf
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of Putin. Do you think Trump cares about any of his supporters? I think he's only ever cared about
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himself. He's still a greasy pig. He's still a greasy pig. He said that a hallmark of strong
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men leaders is they don't care about their followers. Loads Donald Trump. Things like a
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lunatic and a criminal, someone corrupt who's bankrupted people. That the goal for all of us to
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save our republic has to be to keep Donald Trump far away, make sure he never gets anywhere near the
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Oval Office again. The threat that Donald Trump is to this nation. Cult of authoritarian personality
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in league with autocrats and kleptocrats and dictators all over the world.
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Everybody has to follow Donald Trump like a monarch. That's what the election is going to be about.
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Democracy and freedom versus dictatorship and authoritarianism.
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Want to remain a democracy? Or do we want to take this hard turn
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into an autocracy? And taking direct aim at our democracy?
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There are autocratic-leaning remarks he has made in recent weeks and months, such as ones that echo
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Hitler. Extreme measures taken to fundamentally change the course of the country or we're all
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going to die. Trying to get rid of the form of government that we have and install something
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else. To the degree that the country's in any decline, it is the threat of a second Trump term.
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America becoming a threat, which is what it becomes, a threat to the world order if Trump
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is re-elected, is a no-no, to quote Don Rumsfeld. America can survive one Trump term. It won't survive
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the second. Think about what you just said. We are one inch, one inch from something far
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more terrible tonight. I mean, the country is already shocked and we are in bad need of healing
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and unity in this country. But we are one inch from something far worse. Republicans I'm hearing
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from tonight are shocked. They are worried about our country. They're worried about Donald Trump.
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They're worried about the rhetoric around Donald Trump. I mean, I hate to say it, but the rhetoric
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around him over the last few weeks that if he wins an election, our country will end, our democracy
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will end. It's the last election we'll ever have. These things have consequences. Okay. I don't know
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what the motivations of this shooter are. I don't know any of the details, but I know the rhetoric around
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Trump has grown extreme. You mentioned some other violence. You didn't mention the Supreme Court
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attempted murder of a Supreme Court justice or the congressional baseball game where Steve
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Scalise was nearly murdered. One a conservative, the other a Republican. But we have people in this
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country who are dedicated to telling half the country that if Donald Trump wins an election,
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the country will end, the Constitution will go away, and so on and so forth. What I want to hear from
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all elected officials is this kind of hyperbolic extremism has consequences and it must end.
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Yes, we're all shocked. And yes, political violence has no place. Where does it come from?
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Oval Office gives you an opportunity to be, you know, the leader of the country, not just a candidate,
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which of course he also is, who happens to be running against the person who was shot yesterday.
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It's a very awkward and unusual situation. But the president made a point of condemning this attack.
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He called Donald Trump to wish him well. And he has made clear that he thinks there's no place
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in society for political violence like this. And it's not going to stop until we stop it.
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And the one way we stop it is victory. That's why I say victory or death. It's either victory or the
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death of this constitutional republic. We're right on the cusp right now. And there's nothing they will
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not do. Listen to Nancy Pelosi right there. Right now, President Trump, arguably the greatest president
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of the 20th and 21st century, is going to be sentenced by this corrupt judge on this bogus charge with
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Michael Cohen and all these dirtbags and brag to prison in all likelihood on July 11th because
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they can't beat him any way else. They can't be in the polls. That's why they had the early debate
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the other night. He's not beatable politically because of this movement. However, they talk about
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Trump is Caesar and Trump. We're dictators. Although we do everything with little d democracy,
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like the precinct strategy and the moms for liberty taking the school boards over and changing the
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schools, right? Everything's a little d democracy. They sit there and want to control from the top
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down. And I'm telling you right now, if they don't get a replacement and they got to run Biden,
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you cannot take off the table a potential assassination of President Trump.
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For only third time in the history of the Republic, is the fate and destiny of one man tied to the fate
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and destiny of this country, General Washington, President Lincoln and Trump.
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What is going to happen to this country if Donald J. Trump does not have his hand on his family's Bible
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at noon on the 20th of January, 2025? What is going to happen in this nation? It's over. You know it.
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I know it. We don't need to go into detail. You see it every day. He's the only one that not just
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stood up for this country. He stood up for the citizens of this country, and particularly he stood
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a
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belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world
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to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like
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that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a
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conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,
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this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Banff.
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It's Monday, July 15th in the year of our Lord 2024. War Room is coming at you live from Milwaukee
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here at the RNC. An exciting day for War Room. It's an exciting day for, of course, President Trump
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and the Republican Party writ large, that very same Republican Party we've been working to transform
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from the inside out. We should view this week as a celebration of everything that you guys,
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the MAGA base, the War Room Posse, have done to transform the RNC. Wouldn't think that War Room
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would typically be here at the RNC, but we're, of course, always honored to be here. I guess this
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is the first time that we are back live since the events that unfolded last Saturday with President
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Trump. The shooting, obviously, War Room. We've been giving you some live coverage from our social
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media channels, but I'm honored to be joined here by Brian Glenn, who was actually at the event
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now. There's so many things that we have to get into. I want to kind of get your thoughts on what
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actually happened, but now a few days out, how the media is handling it. In a certain word, it starts
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with a U. It's not Steve Bannon's favorite. Unity, which we'll get into after, but you were there
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in Pennsylvania. I would love to just kind of get your breakdown analysis of what happened
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from a kind of boots on the ground perspective. Yeah, it's one of those experiences that I'm still
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trying to unpack, and you go through this range of emotions from being so shocked that this could
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happen at a Trump rally. We think of Trump rallies as almost being the safest place on earth, right?
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We've got all the local security, law enforcement, Secret Service. We've got the best of the best on
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the ground. So something like this is almost unimaginable. So when it did happen, I had to
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literally pinch myself for a second and say, are we really witnessing an attempted assassination on a
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president? So I went through shock to sadness to depression, actually. And I'm now in the anger
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phase, which I think is healthy as well. I think we all need to wake up and realize, and I think that
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open that you had really lays out the reason why we are no longer surprised that there is something
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that would drastically happen, an assassination attempt on a president. So I'm in the anger stage
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right now. But I am glad that I'm here at the RNC because I think this is a one, and you said it
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great earlier, the RNC now is MAGA. That it's a unity. Look at the policy planks. Look at the policies.
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And I think that the UNC has really come together to rally behind America first policies from President
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Trump. And I'm happy that is happening. I remember if you watch old interviews with Steve,
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and I will say this is our first time doing a live show without Steve, moment of silence, many moments
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of silence. It's weird to be here hosting. But if you watch old interviews with him when he was
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talking about the 2016 election, even before when they were pushing candidates, whether it were Jeff
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Sessions or other people like that, they always said, hey, in 2012, you may not win the election,
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but you know what you will? You will take over the apparatus at the RNC. And that's what we've seen
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happen, right? With the Trump movement. You can't go anywhere around here in Milwaukee without, you know,
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the trolley's named Trump trolley. You look at the platform planks. They're make America great again.
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And I think that that's a really historic victory that is not going to be overshadowed by what
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happened. But we have captured the RNC, which is something that sitting here, I never thought
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really we would ever be able to do. But it's amazing. But I'd love to get your view on sort of
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the logistics of someone who was actually there in Pennsylvania, right? The shooter was, what was it?
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148, roughly? 148 yards away. The reports are coming out now. Secret Service is blaming local
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police officers saying that it was their job to secure the area. People who lived or worked in
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that area where the roof was, they said no one ever came to them in the days preceding the rally.
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How close was it? I mean, truly, how preposterous is it that someone was able to get up on that roof
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and fire eight rounds before being taken out? It's insane, Natalie, to be honest with you. And one
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of the things I'm probably most shocked is from when you got out of the car to you walk to the front
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of the magnetometers to go into the clean zone, there was no police officers. There was no local
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police officers in the parking lot, even patrolling, who was walking around the area.
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That's shocking. And this wasn't necessarily the, I think, the biggest open air event that he's done.
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He has done far bigger outdoor venues than he did on Saturday. So the fact that they couldn't lock
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down that perimeter the way they should have is really surprising to me. Why that building was
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outside their clean zone is surprising. But more importantly, we've seen this over the last couple
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of days, the amount of videos that have come out on social media showing the gunman on the roof,
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kind of like this little bear craw, if you will, trying to roll and get in place. I cannot believe
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that. And that is shocking. It's the age-old question of the Biden regime, which is, is it
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not necessarily intentional, but intentional or incompetence? Right? And I think that that is
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what people are asking. And frankly, with the interviews that are coming out, whether it's the
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BBC, those are valid questions to be asking with such an abysmal security failure that we just
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witnessed. We're going to be back after this short break. I think we should have Ben Burkwam joining us
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from Milwaukee, and so is Ben Birquam. We gave him, I guess, a week off from having to go
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down to the border. I think he is there with Congressman Burgess Owens. Ben, if you can hear
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us, if you want to give us a little update, and I'll toss it to you to interview the congressman.
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I'm sure the posse would love it. Yeah. Hey, Natalie, and shout out to the war room posse.
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We're here in Milwaukee. My first time at the RNC convention. I want to show if we can pan the
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camera down. We're out in front of the Pfizer arena, just to make sure it's not Pfizer. This
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is not, this segment's not brought to you by Pfizer. It's Pfizer. Down the way, you can see the
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Panther arena where you guys are at. We've got another arena behind that. This entire part of
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downtown has been taken over for the RNC convention, and it really, the energy here,
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Congressman, is really about President Trump and Maggie. You can see the big Trump 2024 here.
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How, this is my first time here. Yeah, I know you just said this is your first time here.
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How important is or are the events that are going to happen this week?
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Well, I think all of us, those are listening, those are participating. These are very,
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very special times, and we're going to look back on time and realize that we were here when our
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country was about to go over the edge. And now we have a place where we're really hopeful.
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We see a president who really highlights who America is, his defiance, his courage,
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his boldness, his love for our country. And we're here celebrating that this week. And a lot of
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people, because of what's happening on Saturday, we're tuning in probably sometimes for the first
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time. So it's going to be an exciting time for our country because America's been waiting for this.
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We have this desire to become a more perfect union. That's who we are. In the last few years,
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we've been losing that. And we're just tired of it. We're tired of the negative. We're tired of the
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fighting. And this is our time to coalesce behind President Trump, who's going to pick
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America first, put the policy in place. The next two to five years is going to be some
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exciting times for us. I look forward to it. I want to come back to that in a second. But
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you're talking about that negativity. You look at that, the assassination attempt against
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President Trump. And then we just played a cold open when we came into the show with people like
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Joey Reed, who are out there basically calling that, setting this up, calling President Trump a
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dictator, calling him Hitler, all these things for the last eight years. How much do you think that
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played into the violence that we've seen? We saw that under President Trump. We saw the country
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burning down with Antifa and BLM. And how much does the media play into that? And how important is it
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that they're held accountable for their words? Well, there's no question. When people are tuning in
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to only hate, they have a tendency of just thinking that's going to be okay to hate, to stop what they
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think is the worst thing that could ever happen. I think what's happening, though, is the media is
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losing their brand. The last four years, they're realizing American people, I'll say this, on both
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sides of the aisle, good people do not like to be lied to. And what's happening right now, they're
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waking up and finding out, wait a minute, this guy is who has been representing us all this time and we
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didn't know about it? So what's happening with this is the American people are beginning to hold
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everyone accountable who's lied to them. We're going to go and do something very special this next four
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years. We're going to win the House, the Senate, President Trump. We're going to finally put
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policies in place that people can feel the difference. And that's what's nice about where
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we are now. They know what it is to go through misery, to pain, to hopelessness, because that's
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what the Democratic Party's been doing to them. With President Trump and a group that really is
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looking at him as a leader and his guidance as a leader, we're going to be able to give the
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American an idea of what it truly feels like to be hopeful again. So I'll add on, to be great
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again, to be hopeful again. And that's where we are heading off to. And this is going to be an exciting
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time for our country altogether. A lot of good people that are Democrats will be leaving like I did 40 years
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ago and it'll never go back because our brand is forever broken because of what's happened the last
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four years. And you're seeing that. I do most of my coverage on the southern border down in New
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Mexico, Central America, what Joe Biden, the Democrats have done on that southern border.
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You're from Utah. We're seeing that shift across America, particularly in the black and Hispanic
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communities. Are you seeing that everywhere as well? And following up to that, are you seeing a
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shift in Congress? I know you just mentioned that a little bit, how we're getting rid of some of the
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bad and we're getting some of the MAGA in there. Talk to us about that and why you're seeing that.
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I would say, first of all, I came in in the 117th Congress. The 117th, the 118th, the ones coming
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on, we are truly America first legislators. And that's because of the shade of what Trump showed
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us. What showed us is that we need to move on. And so I'm excited about that. And black Americans
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want everything like everybody else, Hispanic, Jewish, everybody wants freedom. We want to have
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a positive view of our future. And that's what President Trump is offering us. So yes,
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we're going to be coming back to this. Together we'll be more united than we have in a while.
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And I think it's going to be really good for our party to have this remarkable resurgence of good
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old-fashioned American way, for sure. Congressman Burgess Owens from the great state of Utah.
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Natalie, Brian, amazing event already out here. I'm going to be out here on the street talking to
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the people. Stay tuned for much more of that to the War Room Posse. Until then, thank you,
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Congressman. God bless you, sir. Thank you, Ben. And thank you, Congressman. I certainly like hearing
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the word accountability come from a member of Congress's mouth. I just wish they would
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do a little more to act on that. I want to pick up, though, where we left off in our last
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discussion. We were talking in the break. Again, you were there in Pennsylvania at the rally when
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everything happened, when everything went down. And to sort of dovetail with the cold open that we
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played, which was just a collage, which, frankly, you probably could make a collage like that
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just from 24 hours of mainstream media coverage of Trump, right? They say those talking points every single
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day, 24-7. What was the crowd's reaction to it happening, particularly towards the media?
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It was really interesting. Of course, you know, President Trump often at his rallies will, you
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know, take a look at the fake news back there. They don't turn the cameras around to show the
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crowd. This often uses that in his speech. He had referenced them three times up until the seven
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minute mark whenever the shooter, you know, attempted his assassination on President Trump.
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Now, after Trump got up, put his fist in the air and said, you know, fight, fight, fight,
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as soon as they put him in the car, I have never witnessed this at all in all of the Trump events
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I've ever covered. I would probably say 45 to 50 percent of the crowd that was still there,
00:22:28.300
because some people did foul out. You know, they were, you know, obviously scared, wanted
00:22:32.040
to leave. They would, they turned to the media riser and they started giving the media the
00:22:38.860
business. I'm talking about blank this, blank that. It's your fault. It's your fault. Pointing
00:22:45.640
at them. Middle fingers, the whole bit. I have never seen a crowd turn.
00:22:52.000
You didn't really hear that in the mainstream media coverage of what happened.
00:22:54.740
No, they were peppering them with insults. And it's almost to the point where the Secret Service
00:23:00.880
had to come over and separate people from the media barrier, the bike rack there. So
00:23:07.480
the people in the crowd felt like it was the media's responsibility for what happened. It was
00:23:15.020
crystal clear where they stood on that. And I thought that was a very interesting fact. Now,
00:23:19.660
granted, uh, thank God, they, none of those was directed towards me. I think they pretty
00:23:24.980
much. Not, not Rav. Yeah, not Rav. And they knew that we were. Maybe a little Fox, not Rav.
00:23:29.300
Well, it's interesting about that. They were peppering the Fox girl in the pre-program. They
00:23:35.160
were calling her fake news and calling out. Matter of fact, she looked at me at one point,
00:23:38.800
like, what do I do? And I said, I literally went like this. Like, I don't know what to tell
00:23:44.400
you. I don't know what to tell you. Yeah. So that was an interesting point. I have never
00:23:48.640
seen that before to that degree, but that's what, that's how America feels right now. They
00:23:53.820
do feel like the media has perpetuated these talking points of Hitler, threat to, threat
00:24:01.280
to democracy, which we all found out that 2016 when he won, nobody's rights got taken away.
00:24:07.040
Yeah. I mean, even in Joe Biden's address last night, he said that, you know, foreign actors
00:24:10.820
are trying to flame the fans, right? That was an interesting line. And of course they said
00:24:14.280
the, uh, very nice M word misinformation, never miss an opportunity to say that, but
00:24:18.060
to sort of continue pulling this thread of the media's response. They know that people
00:24:22.760
detest them. And I'm not just talking poll after poll showing that what I think there
00:24:26.340
may be more dislikes than Congress, which is already a pretty low bar, but it seems like
00:24:30.620
they're cognizant of the fact that right now people do not want to see the vamping of people
00:24:34.520
like morning Joe and morning Mika on air so much to the point that CNN was reporting that
00:24:39.200
they basically pulled morning Joe, I believe maybe for the next week or at least a few days
00:24:44.200
probably coinciding with the RNC. And they have basically just, you know, emergency
00:24:49.420
coverage. If you look at the title of it, it's like, you know, assassin, live assassination
00:24:53.540
coverage. And it's very interesting for those of you who watched it today in honor of Stephen
00:24:57.660
K. Bannon, you know, it's his favorite, favorite program. They're throttling a very interesting
00:25:01.360
line in the sense that they're just sort of having historians on the hosts that they have
00:25:06.040
on look like you're just most, you know, basic journalism graduate school graduate types,
00:25:11.400
there's no really, you know, panache there. They're trying to keep it kind of dry. What's
00:25:16.860
your take on why they're playing that optics game?
00:25:19.740
Well, because they know they've been found guilty in the public court of opinion that
00:25:23.400
their information that they've been pushing out for the past six years about this man
00:25:27.980
finally came to the point where someone thought they had the courage enough to try to assassinate
00:25:33.120
him. I predict this goes for this week. They're going to preempt morning Joe for this
00:25:37.900
week. They'll put these people in there. They'll have their happy talk and they'll have
00:25:41.460
a kumbaya about how much they love this country and how significant this event was. But after
00:25:46.620
the RNC, you will see morning Joe and Mika back on the air drinking their coffee with the
00:25:51.540
same, maybe toned down talking points, but that's in their DNA though. They can't fake
00:25:59.620
It'd be a test pattern on the screen if they couldn't say that.
00:26:02.520
And I want to get now to sort of a bigger thing. We've heard this word unity be rolled
00:26:07.560
out. And, um, you know, we were talking about this before I was talking for those of you
00:26:11.860
who saw Steve's comments to the national polls, kind of reacting, um, to the shooting that
00:26:16.860
happened, you know, make no mistake. If you turned the tables and it were a say Trump supporter
00:26:22.300
who had tried to shoot Biden, do you think Democrats would be pushing for unity right now?
00:26:27.520
They would be weaponizing though. They already have the full force of the federal government
00:26:32.560
to come after MAGA. The media would be squarely blaming this on president Trump. I'm sure social
00:26:39.460
media companies, big tech companies would be cracking down on misinformation. Social media
00:26:44.220
censorship would hit a new high. The word unity would be nowhere, nowhere in the vernacular.
00:26:49.520
You can't have unity with people who fundamentally do not want you to survive or your movement to
00:26:57.380
survive. Surely this was maybe a little more directed attempt to take president off president
00:27:02.240
Trump off the ballot. But really, what is the difference between what Colorado was doing with
00:27:07.000
the Supreme court, what they've been doing with all of these document cases, which we'll be having
00:27:11.400
Jeff Clark. And I just see Mike Davis walking by right now, joining us shortly to walk through
00:27:15.340
that. They've actually dropped the classified documents case. Eileen Canada has actually dropped that
00:27:19.060
case. We'll have Jeff Clark joining us after the break. But really, what is the, it is a distinction
00:27:23.660
without a difference. It is what the shooter said. They'd be calling for the second amendment.
00:27:29.220
They would be taking your second amendment, right? Where are the Republicans calling for gun control
00:27:34.000
after the left attempted to suicide on president Trump? You would think that we would be calling
00:27:38.780
for gun control. No, we're not doing that, but the left would do that. And I'll just leave you with
00:27:44.000
this. The unity, I want the Republican party to unify. I want Americans to unify.
00:27:48.880
And get behind Republicans. But I'm not unifying with Democrats. End of story.
00:27:52.920
No, and I don't want to unify with, I would say, probably 60 percent of the Republican party
00:27:56.380
either. I would aim into that. But we need the vote, though. We need the vote.
00:27:59.120
We'll take the vote, but we want actual accountability. And you know what? If Steve were here, he'd be
00:28:03.300
saying the same exact thing. It's not the time for unity with people who hate you, want your
00:28:08.900
children to be trans and dead. We'll be right back after the break.
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Welcome back to the War Room. We are joined by the one and only Mike Davis. I was going to say of
00:29:34.180
War Room fame, but you have a couple other accomplishments. Maybe that's why we have you
00:29:38.000
on, not including what you drank at the bar last night. I have to channel Steve. I have to give you
00:29:44.160
flack for that. No, but in other good news, although I don't know if that's good news,
00:29:48.980
Judge Eileen Cannon has, if I'm not mistaken, dismissed the classified documents case against
00:29:55.820
President Trump. Can you walk us through all of that? Yeah, absolutely. So the United States
00:30:00.080
Constitution is very clear that if you want to create new officers or if you want to spend
00:30:07.020
taxpayer money, it has to be through our elected representatives in Congress. And we had the Office
00:30:13.040
of the Independent Counsel, and Congress intentionally let that lapse after the Ken Starr
00:30:19.100
investigation of President Clinton. And so what did the Justice Department do? They tried to
00:30:24.340
sidestep that. They tried to create by fiat the Office of the Special Counsel through regulation,
00:30:30.260
not through Congress. And then this Office of Special Counsel is not accountable to the Attorney
00:30:36.580
General on a day-to-day basis. There's no day-to-day management. And it essentially gets an
00:30:41.140
unlimited budget. So Judge Eileen Cannon followed the Constitution. It's very clear that the Office
00:30:48.000
of Special Counsel is unconstitutional, and she just ruled that way today.
00:30:52.000
So walk us through the ramifications of this. Does this mean it's totally done? Do you think this
00:30:58.120
is going to mean they're going to double down on the other cases they have against President Trump
00:31:01.680
or kind of battle planning it out? What do you think is the fallout?
00:31:05.140
The classified documents case down in Florida has been dismissed. If the Biden Justice Department
00:31:10.740
wants to bring a new case, I think they would have to bring it through a United States Attorney,
00:31:16.740
or they would have to, yeah, you'd have to go through the United States Attorney for the Southern
00:31:22.000
District of Florida. I don't know what other way they could do it. And that would be the path they
00:31:28.200
should pursue. The United States Attorney is nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate.
00:31:33.220
That is an officer of the United States, an inferior officer of the United States. And
00:31:36.740
that inferior officer can have assistant U.S. attorneys manage the day-to-day operation of
00:31:44.120
this. And they can use taxpayer-appropriated funds to do this. And that's the way the system is
00:31:50.300
supposed to work. And I believe we have Jeff Clark joining us via Skype. I think we do. He didn't
00:31:57.000
trek all the way out to Milwaukee. It's okay. We'll still have him on the war room today. But Jeff,
00:32:01.000
if we have you, I would love to get your thoughts on sort of the dismissal of this case. And then
00:32:06.820
I want to continue to kind of drill down on the ramifications of this ruling.
00:32:27.380
I was going to say, we can't. Now we can hear you. Yes.
00:32:30.080
Yes. Sorry about that. So look, sorry, I can't be there in Milwaukee. I'm chained to my desk at the
00:32:37.920
moment. But it's exactly so I can look at developments like this. This is a thunderbolt
00:32:44.260
ruling. It's smashing. It shows that Judge Cannon is really 11th Circuit material. And I hope that
00:32:52.300
if and when President Trump becomes president again, the once and future president, that he consider her
00:32:58.580
for any vacancy that occur there. And look, I got to take a victory lap on this because more than a
00:33:05.540
year ago, I started arguing that the special counsel's entire office was unconstitutional under
00:33:11.180
the appointments clause. I made several appearances on war room about that. The reaction from the
00:33:16.440
mainstream media was, Clark's crazy. This is well-established precedent that we can have somebody
00:33:22.340
like Jack Smith. The Supreme Court's going to ultimately authorize this. And then we saw the
00:33:28.440
very bold Justice Thomas strike out in a separate concurrence in the Trump United States immunity
00:33:34.420
case and say, there's another reason why this case likely can't go forward against President Trump,
00:33:42.480
namely the January 6th case from Jack Smith in DC. And that's the January, and that's the Jack Smith's
00:33:48.420
office is entirely unconstitutional under the appointments clause. As Mike was pointing out,
00:33:53.800
there has to be an appointment by law. And even on the assumption that Jack Smith is an inferior
00:34:00.100
officer, which is an assumption that Judge Cannon indulges for purposes of her opinion, still she finds
00:34:07.200
that none of the statutes that were invoked to put Jack Smith in place actually justify putting him in
00:34:14.000
place. And as I've been pointing out for a long time, and Mike referred to the U.S. attorneys,
00:34:18.820
Jack Smith is a super U.S. attorney. Regular U.S. attorneys all have to go through Senate confirmation,
00:34:24.660
right? Presidential appointment, Senate confirmation. Jack Smith has not gone through any of that,
00:34:29.660
yet he wields the powers of all of the U.S. attorneys fused into one. His office is unconstitutional,
00:34:36.900
and it's great to see Judge Cannon in a 93-page opinion proclaim that. And then also, she adds in
00:34:44.500
the ground that he's been scooping money off the public fisk like a demon, millions and millions of
00:34:52.860
dollars based on an indefinite appropriation. And that indefinite appropriation, she finds,
00:34:58.640
also violates the appropriations clause because Congress has not authorized the money that Jack
00:35:04.640
Smith is spending hand over fist. So this is a truly monumental decision, and it comes and could
00:35:12.500
not come at a better time than after the very tragic and dangerous assassination attempt against
00:35:18.620
President Trump. And last thing I'll say before turning it back to you, Natalie, is that there was
00:35:25.440
a lot of criticism of Judge Cannon. Oh, she's just trying to hold this up. She's in over her head. She
00:35:30.300
doesn't know what she's doing. This is a 93-page opinion. She's been working on it carefully for
00:35:35.760
some time. And that gives lie to those who have just tried to besmirch her by arguing that she's
00:35:41.460
just trying to create delay. She wasn't. She's been working on this. She's seen this as an angle from
00:35:46.220
the start. I think she was emboldened by Justice Thomas's separate opinion in Trump. But it's a great
00:35:53.560
day to see this and to see this nonsense case against President Trump tossed out.
00:35:59.360
Judge Cannon is certainly a hero. And Mike, I believe the prevailing consensus is that this
00:36:04.400
case was one of the stronger, if not strongest, cases going against President Trump, kind of taking
00:36:09.800
a bird's eye view at just the lawfare attacks against President Trump writ large. How do you think
00:36:15.820
this is going to affect their larger strategy? In other words, do you think they're going to kind of
00:36:20.300
focus on the other cases? Do you think maybe after the shooting or just as they see the polls and the
00:36:26.740
fundraising, all those numbers, that the lawfare isn't totally working, do you think they're going
00:36:30.560
to sort of recalibrate? How do you think this affects their kind of battle plans going forward?
00:36:36.460
Well, President Trump's opponents have tried to bankrupt him. They've tried to throw him in prison
00:36:42.720
for the rest of his life. They tried to throw him off the ballots and they just tried to kill him.
00:36:48.260
So I would not expect that President Trump's opponents are just going to quietly go away.
00:36:55.960
They're going to come up with something new. And that's why President Trump's supporters need to
00:37:01.080
forcefully defend him against this lawfare, this republic-ending lawfare. That's what we've been
00:37:06.720
doing with the Article III project for the last two years. Like Jeff said, Jeff was one of the few
00:37:13.340
lawyers out there who joined us in this fight. We were laughed at two years ago. They're not laughing
00:37:20.760
And Jeff, if you're still with us, this seems like such a, I don't know, silly oversight coming from,
00:37:26.420
you know, Democrats in this very well-oiled machine. You know, they've read The Art of War.
00:37:30.240
They know how this stuff goes down. Do you think that this is some procedural, you know, issue that
00:37:35.920
they were just hoping that would be overlooked because they always seem to get away with it?
00:37:39.400
There always seems to be a double standard. Or how do they make such a critical error?
00:37:46.840
Well, it goes back, Natalie, to the fact that they do not believe
00:37:51.000
that the president is in charge of the Justice Department. They think that the Justice Department
00:37:55.740
is an independent thing or to borrow, you know, it's for the intelligence community and his terminology,
00:38:01.060
but to borrow Mike Benz's blob terminology. They think the Justice Department is its own separate
00:38:06.480
blob that the president cannot oversee. And that's why they recreated the independent council statute
00:38:11.680
that Congress allowed to sunset in these special council regulations. And who did this? The regulations
00:38:18.300
were signed by Janet Reno, but she's not the one who crafted them. The one who crafted them back in
00:38:23.520
the Clinton administration was Neil Katyal, who is one of the darlings of MSNBC. He shows up almost on a,
00:38:30.720
you know, nightly or weekly basis on MSNBC to bash President Trump. He's a rabid partisan. He is
00:38:36.880
very prominent as a Supreme Court practitioner. And so they gave him the task of putting those
00:38:42.880
regulations together back in the Clinton administration. And I've thought that they were
00:38:47.060
all wet all from the start because they were an attempt to circumvent Congress's power. It's one thing
00:38:52.100
if Congress created this regime, right, a regime of a fourth branch of government, right? I think it's
00:38:58.800
still illegitimate. I think Justice Scalia was right in his dissent in Morrison v. Olson that the
00:39:03.780
independent council statute was unconstitutional under the appointments clause. But certainly if
00:39:09.540
it's just attempted to be done by regulations, when Congress has deliberately made the choice to let that
00:39:15.320
statute lapse, you're really in territory where you're just making it up as you go along. And as Justice
00:39:22.100
Thomas pointed out in his Trump concurrence, Congress has the power to create offices.
00:39:27.960
The executive branch cannot create offices. And this was very important to the framers because – and it's
00:39:33.820
one of the grievances in the Declaration of Independence, for gosh sakes, that the king was creating offices and
00:39:40.700
sending them to America in swarms to eat Americans out of their substance. And so Justice Thomas said we can't
00:39:47.000
have that kind of system. And so it's great to see Judge Cannon take that logic, take that approach, which is
00:39:53.840
really the approach of the framers, and jam it down Jack Smith's throat.
00:39:57.700
Jeff, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything you're working on in writing,
00:40:06.720
Sure. So we are at the Center for Renewing America, americarenewing.com. And you'll also
00:40:12.140
find a lot of great defenses tied in there with Mark Paletta's work and my work, especially on this
00:40:19.720
issue of whether the DOJ is independent or not. It's not independent. And I'm at Jeff Clark U.S.
00:40:26.160
on X and Getter and at Real Jeff Clark on Truth Social.
00:40:34.740
Now, Mike, we usually have you on to talk about lawfare. I always say it's not a Mike Davis
00:40:39.200
warroom hit if you don't say Matthew Colangelo. But you're not going to say it this time because I
00:40:44.120
know that you've been here for a while now, I think, kind of talking with members of the RNC,
00:40:49.280
working on the policy platforms. The word unity is something that we keep hearing. I would love to
00:40:54.120
just kind of get your kind of inside baseball scoop on what you're hearing, whether what President
00:40:57.360
Trump is going to talk about or just what sort of the temperature inside the room is, for lack of a
00:41:01.320
better word. So I've been volunteering here for over a week as one of President Trump's legal
00:41:06.380
surrogates, including for the platform committee. President Trump was very hands-on with the
00:41:12.440
platform, and he took a platform that was like 50,000 words and reduced it 75 percent down to
00:41:19.940
a platform that the American people can understand. It is an America first platform. It is forward.
00:41:26.560
Can you walk us through the historic nature of that for the RNC, which has historically been,
00:41:31.580
I think, harangued by many members of the warroom posse as, oh, it's establishment. I mean,
00:41:36.520
the significance of the rewording of the platform.
00:41:39.360
It's very much President Trump's party, and this is very much President Trump's platform. It's like,
00:41:45.940
there are like 20 points to this thing. It is messaging for real Americans and real America
00:41:53.240
instead of the lawyers and lobbyists who wrote platforms in the past. And this is a winning
00:41:58.080
platform. It can unite all factions of the Republican Party. It brings in right-thinking
00:42:04.320
independents and even right-thinking Democrats. It is an American first.
00:42:08.260
Who is in the room in terms of helping reformulate? You know, like from a personnelist policy, right?
00:42:14.280
You're saying it's more the grassroots as opposed to the like, no offense, but the lawyer consultant
00:42:18.920
class. It's President Trump. He was very hands-on. He called into the platform committee
00:42:24.780
and explained to the platform committee of the RNC why he's updating this platform and why it's
00:42:31.480
important. And it is important because guess what? We need to win elections. And if Republicans don't
00:42:36.460
win elections, then we don't get to pick people for the Supreme Court. We don't get to pick people
00:42:41.500
for the federal courts of appeals. We don't get to pick people like Judge Eileen Cannon in the
00:42:47.240
Southern District of Florida. Personnelist policy. Mike, I want to hold you through the break.
00:42:50.660
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Welcome back to the War Room. We are still coming at you live from Milwaukee and we will be
00:44:50.600
I believe for the next week or so. We're joined in person still by the one and only Mike Davis.
00:44:56.740
We jumped to break, but I want to get back to that very important discussion that we were having about
00:45:00.760
the shift in the RNC kind of policy planking and platforming of what their priorities are. So if you
00:45:06.320
want to kind of keep walking us through what you saw inside the room, you're saying President Trump
00:45:09.800
was really the man behind the wheel steering a lot of these conversations.
00:45:13.020
Yeah, so President Trump has fully realigned the Republican Party to a America First, a populist party
00:45:20.100
for real Americans and real America. I'm from Iowa and I went and spoke to the Iowa RNC delegation
00:45:26.400
yesterday and they are very excited about this. The Republican Party is very much united and we're
00:45:33.400
strong. And if you contrast that with the Democrat Party, with Biden Democrats, they're very much
00:45:38.460
divided and weak. And that is a very good place for Republicans to be in, you know, what, four months
00:45:45.300
before the presidential election. We need to stay united as a party. We need to bring in right-thinking
00:45:51.260
independents and even right-thinking Democrats. And we need to, we need to have a massive victory
00:45:57.260
on November 5th, 2024. And I would tell these Trump supporters and other right-leaning voters that to
00:46:04.200
make sure you vote as early as possible. Bank your vote. Do not wait until election day to vote because
00:46:11.500
if you think that the BLM and Antifa riots were bad in 2020, just wait for the Hamas riots in 2024.
00:46:18.520
Remember this, President Trump's opponents not only tried to bankrupt him and throw him in prison for
00:46:24.980
life, throw him off the ballot, they just tried to kill him. So it is very important that, that these
00:46:31.000
Trump voters, that these Republicans, conservatives, right-thinking independents and Democrats vote as
00:46:37.220
early as possible. Bank your vote and get, uh, get our allies to vote as early as possible. Do not
00:46:42.820
wait till election day because you may not have the opportunity to vote.
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You're probably one of the foremost experts on all of the lawfare attacks that President Trump has
00:46:51.220
been facing. When you see that and you kind of compound that with just the general rhetoric that
00:46:56.040
you hear 24-7, frankly, on the mainstream media about Trump being, you know, literally Hitler and
00:47:01.600
all the, uh, the attacks and slurs that they use against him. Your reactions to the assassination attempt
00:47:08.680
in terms of how we got here. And when you hear the calls for unity, how we can even coexist with a side
00:47:17.760
that once our movement quashed, once MAGA supporters, frankly, either dead or locked away in prison,
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throw away the keys. How do you make sense of that?
00:47:29.440
I blame President Biden for what happened to President Trump. And I'll tell you why.
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This is a president of the United States, Joe Biden, who has demonized President Trump,
00:47:42.260
called him a fascist and said that we, that the American people needed to stop him
00:47:47.340
at all costs, right? Any, at all costs. And this President Biden has politicized and weaponized
00:47:54.000
his justice departments, along with these other Biden Democrat prosecutors' offices around the
00:47:59.280
country to go after President Trump with this unprecedented republic-ending lawfare and election
00:48:05.860
interference. They've gone after President Trump's top aides, like Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon,
00:48:11.740
who are sitting in prison right now after valid claims of constitutional executive privilege going
00:48:18.300
back 250 years to George Washington. They've gone after President Trump's supporters on January 6th
00:48:25.560
with political persecution. The Supreme Court just reversed a criminal conviction based-
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They've used political violence against Trump supporters, and you see the January 6th defendants
00:48:36.420
committing suicide in prison. I mean, it's projection at its finest.
00:48:40.460
And I always say this to Republicans. It's not just Trump and his top aides, his lawyers like Jeffrey
00:48:45.820
Clark, like Rudy Giuliani, like John Eastman. They're going after his supporters on January 6th.
00:48:51.260
They're going after parents outraged by gender chaos in schools and the resulting rapes in high school
00:48:56.820
bathrooms. They're going after Christians. They put a 75-year-old Christian in prison for praying
00:49:07.740
How can Biden, though, even use the word unity when they're refusing to drop these lawfare cases?
00:49:15.100
I mean, do you think if Biden ever wants to use the word unity again and say that we need to bring
00:49:19.320
this country together, do you think that he should drop every lawfare case that they have perpetrated
00:49:26.600
That's how you get unity. I'll say the word unity if they do that.
00:49:30.460
Yeah, I would say this about President Biden. Look, I strongly disagreed with President Obama,
00:49:36.440
but I didn't hate the ban. I think that President Biden is a wretched human being.
00:49:41.780
I think he's an evil man. I think he's a broken man. I think he's a corrupt man.
00:49:45.420
And what he has done by taking our country to the brink with this republic-ending lawfare
00:49:51.320
and election interference, with this extremely dangerous rhetoric that he's used against
00:49:56.680
President Trump, calling him a fascist and saying that we need to stop President Trump
00:50:01.460
at all costs, that directly led to that assassination attempt.
00:50:05.180
And President Trump was within one second, one millimeter, of having his head blown off
00:50:11.540
on national TV. And President Biden should be ashamed of himself for creating this environment
00:50:16.340
in this country. President Trump is going to bring us together as a country. He's going to unite us.
00:50:21.520
President Biden has divided us. He's corrupt. He's an evil man.
00:50:25.460
And I think the irony, I don't even know if that's the right word to use in all this,
00:50:28.680
is that if you read President Trump's kind of recounting of what happened, the only reason
00:50:33.280
that the bullet just grazed his ear was because he was looking, I believe, tilting his head back
00:50:37.160
slightly to the right to look at slides, charts of these skyrocketing illegal immigration numbers
00:50:43.040
under Joe Biden. So I guess maybe that's the silver lining of it. But as Steve said,
00:50:47.880
President Trump, you know, has the armor of God around him. And it's true. I would love to hold
00:50:53.500
you. I think we'll get Jack Posobiec in here. We can have three people. It'll be a fun show. But
00:50:57.600
War Room Posse, we're going to go to break shortly. I see Jim Hoft of Gateway Pundit,
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fame. Like I said, we got Jack Posobiec. The RNC is just heating up. We don't really have
00:51:07.140
a live audience. I know you're used to the Q&As and audience participation when we usually do
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live shows. But you got to settle for Mike Davis and me. But no, we will be back after this break.
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