Episode 3759： WarRoom RNC Special Day 2
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J.D. Vance is the newest addition to President Trump's 2020 vice presidential ticket, and he's a conservative firebrand with a long history of anti-Washington, anti-Democrat views. Will he be a good fit for the president?
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is shows you how the party has changed since 2016. In 2016, he picked Mike Pence because back then
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he needed some help from evangelicals. He had to reassure some Republicans that he could be the
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choice. That is no longer the case. This is not any sort of even somewhat moderate Republican
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like a Rubio or a Burgum. This is full on MAGA. This is his ideological heir apparent. This is
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Trump and his team feeling very confident, very confident about where they stand in this election
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to allow them to go to Vance. It's also a push here to play on the economic populism and nationalism
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that has worked with Trump voters, white working class voters, particularly in those Rust Belt states
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that we all believe will decide this election. The Vance pick is one they believe. Ohio, of course,
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no longer a battleground state. It's pretty deeply red at this point. But now Pennsylvania,
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Wisconsin and Michigan, and particularly Pennsylvania, Western Pennsylvania, they think
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is now Vance helps solidifies their case there. And we should note, Willie, that the Vance and Trump,
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their relationship really blossomed in the wake of the East Palestine train crash. Vance was a
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outspoken critic of the Biden administration's response. That moment, according to Trump camp,
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when Trump went out there, they see his key to his political comeback. It was not long after the
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disastrous 2022 midterms. They saw the response Trump got there and believed that could still
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be a winning coalition going forward. Are you worried that Senator Vance is proposing a sort
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of procedural radicalism, saying he would do what Trump wanted Mike Pence to do, even though Mike Pence
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wouldn't do it, suggesting that Trump shouldn't follow court orders, shouldn't even follow Supreme
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Court rulings? There's an argument that's been made. I don't think Senator Vance is a very high
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profile figure yet. And so I'm not sure how well this has translated broadly to the public. But
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the argument has been made about him that he's proposing a form of sort of procedural radicalism
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for Trump that is more radical than even Trump has suggested in the past. Do you subscribe to that?
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So there is a plan written down on paper to transition American democracy to autocracy.
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There is a very mainstream element of the Republican Party and Trump's infrastructure that is very thoughtful
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about how they are going to end Democratic norms. J.D. Vance is part of that infrastructure.
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He has been fairly public in his antipathy for democracy. There is just a dominant strain in the
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Republican Party and some of the sort of thin intellectual veneer that covers Trumpism that
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J.D. Vance is a big part of that simply believes that democracy is antiquated, that it doesn't work any
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longer, that we would be better off if we just had one person in charge and the rest of us were
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of our rights and that we put men back in charge, that we created this nation in a new cloak of
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Christian nationalism. That's where J.D. Vance comes from. And he talks of good game. But if you really
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listen to him, he is being picked in part because he is going to help shape this transition away from
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democratic norms, this transition to a white, patriarchal, Christian-dominated nation, something
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that's very different, right, than the nation that many of us have thought we have been a part of this
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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J.D. Vance has not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a
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belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop
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that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these
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people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to
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Welcome to The War Room. It's Natalie G. Winters hosting live from Milwaukee at the RNC today,
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Tuesday, July 16th in the year of our Lord, 2024. Quite the evening we had last night. It was great
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to see President Trump as always, and of course, the selection of J.D. Vance as his vice president.
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We broke it down yesterday a little bit on the afternoon show, but I'm honored to be able to
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bring in Dr. Darren J. Beattie to sort of walk the War Room posse through why we think J.D. Vance is
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such a good choice. I also have, if you want to go to the two shot, the one and only Raheem,
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also Raheem J. Kassam, right? We like to do middle initials here in the War Room. Js are all good.
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Js are the good ones. That's how you know. What's yours? G. Yeah, we don't like that. Js over Gs,
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definitely. I think G's better. Ask Darren. Well, Darren J. Beattie, emphasis on the J.
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You have been a strong proponent of J.D. Vance. I would love for you to sort of walk us through this
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decision, but particularly I've gotten a lot of comments from the War Room posse last night,
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how we sort of reconcile with the fact that he has made some Never Trump remarks in the past and
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why you think that he was indeed a good selection for President Trump to make.
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Absolutely. First of all, I'd like to say it's great to be with you, Natalie. It's great,
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especially great to be with Raheem. You know, it's nostalgic. I remember the old days,
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the old days of War Room. It kind of brings me back to that. We had some great,
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great times in the early days of War Room, and it makes me think of Steve and everything that's
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happened. So great to be here. And yes, about Vance, you know, Revolver News, I'm very proud that
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we, just like the War Room, we're always ahead of the curve. It's almost unfair. The people who watch
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War Room and read Revolver.News, the advantage they have in terms of being on the bleeding edge of
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political developments, it's almost unfair. Like when you think about how we wrote a whole thing
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about Elon taking over Twitter before it was public, he was even interested, to the Color
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Revolution series, to the January 6th thing, and then calling for J.D. Vance, explaining why he would
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be the great choice. We ran this like four months ago, and I think it's a critical piece for people
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to read if they're not familiar with Vance and who he is. It's up there at Revolver.News right now.
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And yes, as you pointed out, he wasn't always for Trump, but he was for Trump in a deeper sense
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that, you know, his entry into the political stage is through this book called Hillbilly Elegy.
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And that book really sort of captured, in a deep sense, the underlying developments going on in the
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country that helped pave the way for the success of the Trump movement, the America First movement,
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the movement that was concerned with fixing our trade deals, fixing our immigration problems,
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fixing our foreign policy problems. J.D. grew up and lived amongst the very communities
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that were sold out and destroyed by our corrupt elite. And so even back when he was not the biggest
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Trump supporter, he was on this deeper sort of sense of ideological affinity. He was in tune and
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resonated with the underlying currents responsible for the America First movement that Trump led.
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And for that reason, I think it was almost inevitable that once, you know, you cut through
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the media lies, J.D. would be one of Trump's biggest supporters as he's become and remains to this day.
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And so I think there's all this talk. You know, I've been one to really dump on this concept of
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Trumpism after Trump, because it's constantly used by people who don't understand the unique
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importance of Trump's style of leadership and really just want to undermine everything Trump
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stands for. But I think it's important to have someone who embodies at a core level, both in the
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brain and sort of in the biography, the underlying logic and momentum behind Trump's victory in 2016.
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And so I feel good that Trump picks someone who embodies that legacy and who can fulfill that legacy
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in his role as vice president and then possibly beyond in the future. It's it's smart from a kind of,
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I guess, you know, it's not narrow, but it's, you know, it's still important to win the election.
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Trump's a winner. He cares about winning. Vance has won. So there are a lot of sort of electoral
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advantages in terms of 2024 race. But I'm more pleased and optimistic about the longer term
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advantages of having someone. And we should be optimistic, too, I think, when you see where
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the opposition has been mounted from. Obviously, John Bolton, Karl Rove, Rupert Murdoch,
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Rahim, I want to bring you in on this when you see who's sort of opposed, right, to the selection
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of J.D. Vance. I know we were talking about this a little bit yesterday with Jack Posobiec.
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But can you sort of walk us through why you think this is confirmation that that President Trump
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is really sticking to that America first? He's not letting the, you know, consultant class,
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the sort of establishment wing of the Republican Party have a hand in his selection.
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Yeah, look, we had a piece up yesterday on the National Pulse by one of our long term contributors,
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Thomas Farnon, and he described J.D. Vance as the non-compromise candidate, right? And it's not just
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being a non-compromise candidate. It's being kind of a technocrat, really. Somebody, something that we
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were missing a lot of, I think Darren can speak to this more, in 2016, was actually not just the true
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believers that we were missing out on, but actually people who knew how to advance the football,
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who knew how to, you know, sink their teeth into legislation. I just ran into Pete Hegseth out on the
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street and I said to him, you know why I like J.D. Vance? Because he's a nerd. And actually we do need...
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Right. And we do need that kind of like detail-driven, detail-oriented person in there to
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help Trump advance the football. This is a finite amount of time that they have. They've got to get
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a lot done. And he's, you know, let's face it, he's also got the youth factor, the energy factor,
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to be able to bring that into the team, into the ticket, and to say to vast swathes of America,
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actually, you know, you don't just have one person at the top of your ticket saying the
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things you believe in. You now have two people at the top of your ticket, not just saying the
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things you believe in, but who know how to get things done. I think there too are a lot of
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similarities between J.D. Vance and Stephen K. Bannon, in that they worked their way up, right,
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from sort of blue-collar backgrounds. And they joined the military. They went to these elite
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institutions. Steve, in his case, worked on Wall Street for J.D. Vance. It was venture capital.
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But I think in many ways, the left and the establishment sort of used them as not class
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traitors, but in a way, they left that world. And I think people who do that, it proves that
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they have a backbone. And at the end of the day, it is populism to its core, right, when they return
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from those ivory towers to defend the American people. And I think when you're looking for a VP pick
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for Trump, which I think in this case, it's more of someone who can be a spokesperson for him,
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right, you're looking for someone who will not pull a Mike Pence, someone who has a backbone
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of steel. And I think J.D. Vance, in his lived experience, in his life, has demonstrated
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that he has that. Now, Darren, I'm curious. There's obviously been a lot of talk how, you know,
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President Trump's VP pick, right, it's sort of assassination insurance, although that comment was
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made before what happened on Saturday. But convince the war room posse, if you think it is the case,
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that J.D. Vance really is a solid pick in that regard, and that he is similarly loathed and feared
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by the establishment. Well, on that point, you don't require convincing from me. It's only necessary,
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as you were pointing out earlier, look at the people who worked so vigorously to bury J.D. Vance's
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political career, not only for the VP slot, but all the way going back to the Senate. I mean,
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the opposition, a lot of people don't, you know, there's a lot in public facing, but the private
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facing behind the scenes opposition was absolutely insane going against J.D., and it was coming from
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the usual suspects. Huge push by Rupert Murdoch. Rupert Murdoch did a huge push against Vance.
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Lindsey Graham, you know, this is really interesting, and it shows what a snake Lindsey Graham is. I think
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we all know from how he operates, you can kind of intuitively sense how a person like that would be
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so snake-like, but Lindsey Graham was working so hard to sabotage J.D., pushing Tim Scott, thank God
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Trump didn't pick Tim Scott, pushing Tim Scott so hard, then pushing others, and then when J.D. got the
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nod, Lindsey Graham comes out and does this big public statement like they were friends, and he was
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supporting him all along. It gives you a sense of how someone like Lindsey Graham maneuvers, but all
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the usual suspects, from the John Boltons to the Karl Rhoves to the Rupert Murdochs, absolutely hate
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J.D., and there are a lot of reasons for that. One of the big reasons is that he doesn't want to get us
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involved in foreign wars. He doesn't want to take your taxpayer money and dump it into the coffers of
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corrupt oligarchs in Ukraine just to prolong a war and the deaths of innocent people for no benefit to
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American interests. He's been against that. He's been one of the stalwarts in the Senate for his
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time there. So I'd say, you know, the people who hate this country, they are stupid in many ways,
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but they're not stupid in the sense that they don't understand who would benefit them and who
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wouldn't benefit them. And they clearly understood that J.D. elevated to a position of vice president
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would not benefit the crooks and the snakes that have run this country into the ground.
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Darren, if you can hang with us through the break, I have some more questions, not just on
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Elon Musk. Maybe you can get the pom poms out, but also the weird coincidences between the Secret
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Service actions on the January 6th pipe bomb stuff. And of course, what happened on Saturday,
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we also got Raheem Kassam, who will stay as long as he's willing to sit. I'm hearing he's not really all
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that. I don't like sitting down. I want to stand up, but then you'll only see my crotch. So
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that's allowed. Wait, we need to get viewership up. We'll be right back after this break coming at
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Welcome back to the war room. I'm getting production notes from Raheem Kassam that I need to do some
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little rusty Natalie. Repartee about rusty. I'm rusty. Hold on. Welcome to the war room. We're here at
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the RNC convention. They know that. They know that. Do you know that? Here's her email address so you
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can tell her. Some repartee. How do you enjoy your convention? I am. So I've actually never been
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to an RNC before because in 2016, I was in high school. Yep. 10th grade. And then 2020 was virtual.
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So I think that was when the national pulse was, I think, I was about to say at its peak,
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but I won't denigrate your company like that. We're definitely doing better now. Don't worry about
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it. Fake news. But yeah, I miss you. Whenever I see no typos in the copy anymore, I'm like,
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where's Natalie when you need her? So this is a very odd convention. It feels odd compared to 2016.
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The security is way, way more this time around. And I'm sure they deployed many more assets in the
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last couple of days. It's also spread out a lot further and it's boiling hot outside.
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So people like walking back and forth between the media areas, between the convention, between the
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arenas. I don't know. I don't know. It feels draining at this point in time. And every-
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Well, the problem, yeah, no, I don't like to sit. I like to stand when I, when I present.
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And, um, and, um, the other thing is, look, it puts much more stress on the speakers. It puts
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much more stress on the people running the actual show in the forum because they have to make it
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worthwhile for people hanging out all day, sweating through their suits. You know, there's all this
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more expectation, especially of an evening to G people up, to get them excited. And that's what
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you saw last night, right? You saw president Trump come out. Um, you saw JD Vance come out there.
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You saw Tucker Carlson and all of that. And yes, for a lot of people, for most people, I would say
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that is worth it all day long. And I think that's why president Trump will show himself at the
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convention floor every single day is to, to make, it's basically thanking people for enduring,
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you know, the days long processes, the weather, the travel, all of this stuff. It's pretty intense
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No, there's definitely a show of force last night. And I want to get into your thoughts
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on the speeches we saw last night, of course, president Trump's first appearance since
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what happened Saturday. But Darren, if we still have you, which I think we do,
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I would love to kind of get your rundown. I don't think we've had you on the show
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since the shooting or the attempted assassination happened, but particularly through the lens of
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the secret services, frankly, you could call it weird. I don't think that's really the right
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adjective to use, but behavior. Again, the age old question with the Biden regime,
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is it a result of incompetence or is it, you know, intentional, but how they sort of
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with the, the January 6th, the pipe bomb footage, how they were walking past and Capitol police
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officers were taking pictures of it. They were letting school children walk by the bomb that
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was allegedly supposed to detonate. Can you walk us through just the sort of pattern of failures
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that have occurred under secret services? How under their watch?
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Indeed. Well, you know, one hates to be irreverent about serious topics like this, but my tongue in
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cheek line is the only reason the attempt failed is that the affirmative action in the CIA has kept
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pace with the affirmative action in the secret service. Now, there is some truth to that joke in
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the sense that however you cut it, it's a colossal security failure on the part of the secret service.
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The idea that a building that close on the roof of the building would be unsecured for a second
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is simply unfathomable. And the fact that he was able to get off that many shots, one clipping Trump's
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ear, and it wouldn't have been the ear. People need to really digest this. It's hard to digest.
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If it had been a millimeter in another direction, if he hadn't turned his head at that precise moment,
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we'd be in a very different situation in this country. And the fact that he turned his head
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in order to address a chart of immigration statistics is simply remarkable. I mean, there's so many
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elements of this that are just unbelievable. But when you dig into the details of how this happened,
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there's some really disturbing questions. So I mentioned, how is the guy able to get up on the
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roof for that long? You think about it. He's got a rifle. He's able somehow to get to the top of the
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roof with a rifle. There's multiple videos at this point of people in the crowd pointing the guy out
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saying, officer, officer, officer. There's that footage of the guy in the with the red sort of carrot
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top hat talking about how he alerted officers. And if you look at the timeline, it's as minutes in
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advance. It's inconceivable, especially to people who have, you know, been around the Secret Service
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and see how they generally tend to operate with these things. They're deadly serious for and for
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that matter. How would this shooter have simply assumed that that roof was unsecure? Even if you look
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at the roof and see there's nobody on there. For me, I would assume the second that you start to
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climb on a roof like that with a rifle, your head gets blown off. Why wasn't that his assumption?
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Did he just get remarkably lucky that he decided to take that risk at the exact event, singular event,
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when there was that monumental and unfathomable security breach right there? It's a very bizarre
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thing. And people are asking disturbing questions about this. And then finally, I find it weird that
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we basically know nothing about this shooter. He's virtually a ghost. He's one of these weird guys.
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But there's, as far as I've seen, no internet footprint, which is hard to believe. So there are
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just a lot of things that deserve a more thorough answer. And I really hope that in the midst of all the,
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you know, the vicissitudes of the news cycle and things, we really can't lose sight of this question
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because everything is just kind of too convenient. And it comes, you know, people forget the Secret
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Service that had all of these amazing, implausibly unlikely failures, that sort of redolent of the
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failures we pointed out in the January 6th pipe bomb, that they managed to miss this pipe bomb when they
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sweep. And then when someone alert, the plainclothes Capitol police officer alerts the Secret Service,
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then protecting VP-elect Kamala, they somehow knew that the pipe bomb was fake because they let a
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bunch of kids walk right by it like it was nothing before going through the spectacle of getting a
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bomb-safe robot to defuse it. So the same Secret Service that has this really bizarre behavior in
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relation to the pipe bomb, is the same Secret Service that has this really bizarre behavior in
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relation to this one millimeter off from a successful assassination attempt. And the Secret
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I want to bring Rahima on this, particularly to the point of getting these thorough answers.
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Obviously, we saw Morning Joe, Morning Mika, as we call it here in the war room, was pulled off air
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yesterday. They're back today. But how do you think the rollout of the shooter's alleged motives,
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right? They're saying he's a lone wolf, but that was before they could even get into the phone.
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How do you think they're going to sort of weaponize that narrative to push what I would say is
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something anti-Trump, push lockdowns already, saying that, oh, this guy could spur more violence
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that's geared towards elections and just electoral activities? What's your take?
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A lot of noise. I mean, they'll do a lot of noise because at the end of the day,
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what they don't want to do is account for themselves, their own actions, their own words.
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And frankly, you know, the Joe Biden going up there with Lester Holt and being asked,
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have you spoken to the Secret Service director? And he says, yes, I've spoken to him.
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Could be. Maybe he's just outed the Secret Service director, perhaps as trans. Who knows?
00:24:24.160
But I think the more important answers to get right now are, you know, tactical answers that
00:24:30.300
they will need resolving immediately before he goes out and is able to do this again.
00:24:34.240
Are they going to have to put in front of a bulletproof screen when he does rallies in the
00:24:37.540
future? Are you going to need 20 Secret Service mags instead of five Secret Service mags at
00:24:42.460
these events from now on? Are you no longer going to be able to have them in front of an
00:24:46.820
open field? Did this person scope other events? Was he an attendee at prior rallies? Was he trying
00:24:53.620
to see what it was like? How many times did he visit the scene itself beforehand? I think
00:24:58.580
we need answers to this question sooner, not later. I know from an operational perspective,
00:25:03.020
the Secret Service will be reluctant to get into some of those details because they will
00:25:07.120
now not want other people knowing what they're looking for. But I'm afraid they've already
00:25:10.980
failed at their jobs. And this is the time for accountability. I know our friends in Congress
00:25:16.000
Well, that's what I was going to ask you. House Oversight is having a hearing with the
00:25:19.060
director of Secret Service. What do you think they really need to press her on or focus
00:25:25.500
Oh, look, there's going to be all sorts of things that you can provide. You know this from
00:25:30.240
going through freedom of information requests, you know, massive amounts of data and documentation
00:25:35.220
and emails especially. Is what was the Secret Service really focused on in the last six or
00:25:40.720
eight or 12 months, right? Is it the security of its principles? Or is it, you know, I hate
00:25:46.880
saying it over and over again because it's kind of trite at this point. Or is it DEI? You
00:25:50.480
know, is it these things that sort of engulf and create a culture and it's so hard to get
00:25:54.460
out of them? It's like a blob, right, inside government that captures you. And I do have to say,
00:25:58.860
I'm glad that Morning Joe and Morning Mika are back up today because they clearly heard
00:26:04.600
that Morning Raheem and Morning Natalie were on this morning. And so they had to counter
00:26:10.020
Well, frankly, I don't even think it's six or 12 or 18 months. I think it is nearly a
00:26:14.540
decade that you've seen this systemic approach from DHS, which of course oversees Secret
00:26:18.780
Service, basically rework what it means to be a domestic extremist, rework what it means
00:26:23.680
to be a domestic terrorist. And the definition that has become synonymous with MAGA, right?
00:26:28.960
So it's really no wonder to me that someone like this individual who is trying to shoot
00:26:34.380
President Trump would slip through the cracks because he does not fit their criteria of what
00:26:38.900
it means to be a domestic extremist in today's America.
00:26:43.880
Darren, if you can stick with us through the break, I want to keep you because I want to
00:26:49.820
Yeah, one critical point that I need to make, but I'll make it after the break.
00:26:51.340
Yes, feel free. You got a minute if you want to make it.
00:26:55.840
I'll keep people in suspense, but the teaser is, guess what agency runs the Secret Service?
00:27:04.320
None other than the Department of Homeland Security, which has been the tip of the spear
00:27:08.220
structure in the weaponization of the national security state against MAGA.
00:27:17.460
I thought it was PepsiCo running the city. You know, that's where they got her in from.
00:27:21.200
But she used to work for Joe Biden. She was one of his lead details back in the vice presidential
00:27:32.220
Yeah, I mean, I got to tell you, you know, we could talk about this till we're blue in the
00:27:35.980
face as well. What happened that day, you have to have, like, everything that could possibly
00:27:42.360
go wrong has to go wrong in order for that to come off. So lots to talk about.
00:27:46.580
Well, and it's wild, too, that he was turned back to the right looking at a slide about
00:27:49.980
what was it, illegal immigration and the skyrocketing numbers under Joe Biden.
00:27:53.340
You know what that means? Talk about illegal immigration at every chance you get.
00:27:58.600
It's one of the reasons why I think J.D. Vance is a solid pick.
00:28:01.040
But Warren Posse, we will be back after the break. We've got Darren J. Beattie, Raheem
00:28:05.240
J. Kassam, and Natalie G. Winters coming at you live from the RNC. We'll be right back.
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Welcome back to The War Room. I think we're going to have Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene
00:29:30.200
joining us shortly, but in the meantime, we still got Dr. Darren J. Beattie with us. Now, Darren,
00:29:36.460
Elon Musk announced yesterday that he is going to, until the election, donate about $45 million a month
00:29:44.380
to, you know, pro-Trump PACs. I'd love, you've always had the pom-poms out, within reason,
00:29:50.140
for Elon Musk, but if you could sort of walk us through this decision and the ramifications of it.
00:29:56.140
Absolutely. Just very quickly, at the point about the DHS, the DHS runs the Secret Service.
00:30:02.820
Who is the Democrats' point man for the DHS, who's run the Homeland Security Committee every single time
00:30:11.380
the Democrats controlled Congress? None other than Denny Thompson, the disgraced head of the still
00:30:18.040
more disgraced J-6 Committee, who, as we all know by now, has called for President Trump's
00:30:25.280
Secret Service detail to be removed on account of his sham felony conviction. So the DHS's stooge in
00:30:33.360
Congress is the guy who wanted to pull protection from Trump altogether, and the DHS just happens to
00:30:40.240
run the Secret Service. And the DHS is, of course, at the tip of the spear when it comes to the
00:30:45.700
weaponization of government against MAGA, from the Disinformation Governance Board to criticizing
00:30:52.200
COVID skeptics, vaccine skeptics, whatever you want to call it, as domestic security threats to saying
00:30:59.600
that white nationalism is the number one national security threat to the country. By that, they mean
00:31:04.240
MAGA. That's the DHS. That is the organization that runs the Secret Service. So I'll leave it at that
00:31:10.360
and go to Elon, which is a much more encouraging aspect of what's going on in the country. So I said,
00:31:16.540
Revolver, we did a very detailed and intricate piece on why Elon should take over Twitter. And this
00:31:22.140
was published before it was even publicly understood that he was interested in Twitter at all. In fact,
00:31:28.200
it was so prescient that some morons in the fake media have said that I masterminded this whole
00:31:36.560
Twitter thing. I was like working in cahoots with Elon or whatever. That's how prescient it was. Of
00:31:41.320
course, it's a ridiculous theory, but it's kind of flattering that the mainstream media morons would
00:31:47.420
even entertain such an idea. But here we are where Elon Musk has come around along with half of Silicon
00:31:54.640
Valley. You're seeing people like David Sachs. Now it just came in that Marc Andreessen, a major VC,
00:32:00.720
is going in for Trump. So we're seeing what the social scientists call a cascade effect,
00:32:06.060
a preference cascade effect. And Elon is, of course, a major player. My understanding is he's pledged
00:32:12.840
something crazy like $45 million a month to a Trump-supporting super PAC. And for Elon, it's very
00:32:22.100
clear he loves the country, but it's also existential for his business interests. Whether he liked it or
00:32:27.820
not, you can't be half a gangster. You can't poke your head out a little bit. He already got on the bad
00:32:33.960
side of the regime. And so he needs Trump to win if he wants to save his own hide, if he wants to save
00:32:40.700
his own business interests. Biden's going to destroy his business, if not put him in jail,
00:32:46.080
if Biden wins again. So all of these people now understand that the stakes couldn't be higher
00:32:51.720
for the country and for their own sort of business empires. And so they're going in for Trump.
00:32:58.880
And it's very encouraging to see. And so I hope that $45 million a month is put to good use.
00:33:04.960
Well, we see them obviously rallying the troops for President Trump, even from, I would say,
00:33:11.760
unlikely allies. Of course, yesterday, Judge Cannon dismissing the classified documents case
00:33:17.280
down in Florida. I think the numbers, what is it you see day after day, the polls coming out in swing
00:33:22.400
states and basically every state that President Trump is, of course, dominating, taking sort of a step
00:33:27.340
back, looking at this from sort of a meta perspective. I'm curious to get your thoughts on how you think the
00:33:33.020
Democrats are sort of going to reshape their playbook to go after President Trump ahead of
00:33:38.240
the election. In other words, it seems like the lawfare is sort of crumbling, right, from the
00:33:42.320
polling perspective and just President Trump's ability to outperform Biden, not just on a mental
00:33:46.960
cognizance level, but just from a stamina and just his ability to, you know, put his fist up in the
00:33:52.080
air and say, fight, fight, fight. Joe Biden, no matter how many drugs they give him, could never do that.
00:33:57.140
Do you think, from your perspective, your kind of intimate and intricate knowledge of the way the
00:34:01.380
security state operates, do you think we're going to start seeing, you know, the pandemic talk
00:34:05.800
resurface? Do you think we're going to start seeing, you know, their push for universal vote by mail?
00:34:11.120
How do you think they're going to try to sort of electioneer an outcome that is favorable for Joe
00:34:16.240
Biden when basically every indicator is suggesting otherwise? Well, you know, this is a really important
00:34:23.560
question, and it deserves a sophisticated and comprehensive answer, and I'll try to give the
00:34:31.920
contours of that. The short version is the Democrats are even more screwed than they were before. You see,
00:34:39.740
one thing that this assassination attempt did was it knocked the news cycle away from the attention to
00:34:49.140
Joe Biden's cognitive state. And what that means is that any Democrats who is thinking of calling on
00:34:57.120
Biden to step down, they no longer have that news cycle at their back that would sort of amplify the
00:35:03.400
significance of those public statements. That's out of the news cycle, and now it's out of the question.
00:35:09.400
I always thought it was out of the question, but now it's really out of the question. So basically,
00:35:13.440
the assassination attempt shut down any remotely realistic chance of Biden being pushed out.
00:35:21.660
So that's one thing, and that's, I think, you know, that's good for, that's good for Trump,
00:35:26.000
that's good for Republicans, that's good for the country, because, you know, Biden's just not a
00:35:30.900
formidable candidate. So that's one. Two, I think it has, even the Democrats, they don't have any shame,
00:35:39.180
but I think it will have a tempering effect on the way that they approach the rhetoric. You know,
00:35:45.940
Biden's whole approach and posture has been sort of the, um, the doomsday dementia guy talking,
00:35:53.900
you know, dementia man talking about what a danger Trump is to democracy. I think that will have to
00:36:00.660
temper a little bit. Of course, we'll see stuff it's, you know, ordinary, um, kind of rhetoric in the
00:36:06.220
campaign, but it will blunt the edges of that a little bit, which is basically the only thing they
00:36:12.480
had rhetorically. And so that's very bad for them. And of course, all of these criminal cases are now
00:36:18.460
in the trash too. And that was the big ace up their sleeve. So they're screwed in terms of the
00:36:23.120
extracurricular approach through the lawfare. They're screwed in terms of the only rhetorical
00:36:28.900
approach that's really viable for someone like Biden and how diminished he is. And basically they're stuck
00:36:34.800
with Biden because it was pushed out of the news cycle. So they are in, in big trouble from all of
00:36:42.160
those accounts. But at the same time, I'm hearing a lot of people saying, Oh, Trump's one it's, it's
00:36:47.440
over. It's not over. There are, you know, just things built into the structure of these elections,
00:36:52.860
which mean that it's going to be relatively close, no matter what it's going to be close at the margins
00:37:00.280
in just a handful of critical swing States. And, you know, they still have, you know,
00:37:06.720
bundling. They still have the ability to mobilize a lot of low information, low IQ voters, all of those
00:37:13.440
things, those kinds of structural type advantages that the Democrats have that those haven't gone
00:37:18.620
away. So I think no matter what happens, it's still going to be very close election.
00:37:24.640
I'm going to have to let you. Darren, as always, thank you for joining us. I know the posse loves
00:37:32.440
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00:37:35.780
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00:37:41.100
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00:37:48.020
It's a great piece. The posse's definitely got to go and read it. Darren, as always,
00:37:51.320
thank you for joining us. We will see you soon. Thank you, Natalie.
00:37:57.680
I am joined by Dean Cain and David A.R. White. Unlike Darren, we have to be out here. He's at
00:38:06.680
home. Where is Darren? That's what I want to know. I want to be at home. Okay. So what are you doing
00:38:12.260
here? Well, we have a movie coming out on September 12th called God's Not Dead. In God We Trust. I
00:38:19.040
screwed that up this morning, so I apologize. It's written on money. God's Not Dead. In God
00:38:23.840
We Trust. Exactly. The one-two punch. It's the most successful faith-based franchise of all time
00:38:31.720
in the film world. And David's produced it and acted in the whole thing. Are you guys rolling
00:38:37.900
it out here at the RNC? We are. Yeah. We're rolling the trailer out on tomorrow, actually.
00:38:42.840
That's so exciting. So film aside, is this your first RNC? Are you here to support the
00:38:48.980
president? Do you want to see him speak? Or is it really just about the film? Or what
00:38:51.780
are you guys doing? I don't know. I'm a huge supporter of President Trump, without a doubt.
00:38:55.440
But, you know, the film is about faith and politics. And that's a big deal, especially with what's
00:39:01.040
just gone on with President Trump. And I think that's going to play a bigger role, not only in
00:39:05.600
this convention, but in his administration moving forward. And I'm hoping and praying that his
00:39:11.100
administration is the next administration. And there needs to be an element of faith and values
00:39:17.460
and morals that I think is not being represented very well in this current administration.
00:39:22.540
And certainly not in Hollywood. Can you walk us through sort of the differentiating factors and
00:39:28.400
features of this film in comparison to the trash, and I use that word lightly, that's out there?
00:39:35.300
Well, the Gods on Dead movie franchise has always been about really trying to open up conversations
00:39:39.920
about things that are going on in our country as we speak. And so, you know, when the first one
00:39:48.000
came out way back in 2014, which is our 10 year anniversary for this franchise, and we are on
00:39:56.120
the fifth installment, which is hard to believe. But, you know, the Fast and Furious, how many Fast
00:40:00.120
and Furiouses are there? 37. 37, right. So we're only just starting.
00:40:03.720
Okay, so I have to be honest. They chose the worst person to interview you guys.
00:40:08.840
Don't be honest. Wait, wait, what are you doing? You're in journalism here. You can't
00:40:11.800
be honest. I don't watch movies. That's perfect though. That's all right. You can start.
00:40:15.800
But there is something, there is a connection though. I don't really even know who you are.
00:40:18.760
No, it's perfect. Oh my God. I'm walking off, right? You said if they didn't know who I
00:40:23.980
was, I could walk off. I hear you're Superman. I did play him. I did play him. Okay.
00:40:28.060
When you were negative 27. Okay. So my parents are like, oh my gosh, my daughter. It's a great
00:40:35.320
thing for me having played Superman 30 years ago or whatever it was, is that like, I get
00:40:39.240
a beautiful young lady comes up to me and goes, oh my gosh, my grandmother loves you. And I go,
00:40:43.440
oh gosh, I was that close. That close. Not even mom, but grandma. That's fair. That's fair.
00:40:49.000
Yeah, that's your grandma. Speaking of that close, Steve Bannon, obviously from prison said
00:40:53.580
that Trump was wearing the armor of God on Saturday night. And when you look at all the trials
00:40:57.540
and tribulations that the Democrats have put him through, every moment led him to being
00:41:01.540
positioned on that stage, tilting his head back, right? To look at that chart about illegal
00:41:04.920
immigration. Had they not put him through those lawfare cases, he probably wouldn't have been
00:41:08.480
in Pennsylvania that day because his whole rally schedule would have been off, right?
00:41:12.200
Because he wouldn't have been stuck in that New York courtroom. There were so many forces that
00:41:15.400
had to come and converge to have him be protected from that, that bullet from, from just the,
00:41:20.920
the faith and the religion perspective. Do you think Steve is right? Does he have the armor of God
00:41:25.540
around him? I mean, I couldn't, I, you know, I, I don't want to say about anything moving forward,
00:41:29.700
but I'll say at that moment, absolutely a hundred percent people like, you know, in this film,
00:41:34.600
it's about God and politics. And I say, God's already put a hand in this, in this election
00:41:38.580
just by having him turn his head. Um, that was a very frightening moment.
00:41:44.080
I tell you what, of the right kind. Yeah. Um, that was just a really frightening moment. That's,
00:41:48.440
you know, that would have been one of the worst moments in American history, political history. And,
00:41:54.200
um, I'm so glad that it worked out how it did. Uh, there were obviously a lot of mistakes made and
00:41:58.460
so on and so forth, but, uh, I think it's helped change this election, maybe change the president
00:42:02.920
Trump. Um, it'll be really interesting to see his speech on, on, uh, Thursday. I think it is. Um,
00:42:08.360
I feel like he's going to be calling for much more unity and trying to bring things together.
00:42:12.320
And I think that might be exactly what this country needs at this time.
00:42:14.640
So if people want to watch the film, if they're here at the RNC, where can they go do that?
00:42:19.200
But the war room posse online, how can they get it?
00:42:21.460
Yeah. Well, the movie comes out September 12th nationwide, um, get involved. The movie's
00:42:26.960
about being involved. There's a, there's a stat that says 40 million, up to 40 million American
00:42:32.840
Christians are not registered and do not vote in the presidential elections. And this movie
00:42:38.180
is about the responsibility that all of us have to get involved.
00:42:41.740
We'd love to, you know, so often we'd love to sit back and say, well, somebody else will
00:42:45.560
take care of it, but how has that gone for us in the future or in the past? It's been
00:42:49.480
not a great experience. And so this movie really is a rallying cry for people to get involved
00:42:56.980
As Steve always says, it's next man. Uh, and I think your film is a perfect demonstration
00:43:01.480
of that. Thank you guys so much for joining us.
00:43:03.180
That's the Navy man talking there. Next man up.
00:43:04.740
Hey, next, next woman up, next, next biological man up. We like, gotta make that clarification
00:43:10.560
nowadays. We will be right back after this break for a posse. See you soon.
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Welcome back to the War Room. Still coming at you live from Milwaukee at the RNC. I think the War
00:44:37.560
Room Posse is one of their favorite guests. I'm honored to be joined by Representative MTG. Thank
00:44:43.660
you for joining us. I have so many questions. We were talking in the break. I don't even know what
00:44:46.980
to ask you, but I want to start with something that we were talking about really extensively on
00:44:51.200
yesterday's programming, which is the U word that they seem to be rolling out, that unity is what
00:44:56.220
we need in face of what happened on Saturday with regard to President Trump. Now, we were talking,
00:45:01.640
we were saying, we don't want to unite with people who want to kill us, people who want to indoctrinate
00:45:06.280
our children and turn them against us, people who want our movement basically quashed, done, thrown in
00:45:11.880
prisons, throw away the keys. What is your take on this push for unity in terms of who it's coming
00:45:18.000
from? Do we want to unite with the people who are pushing it? You know, I remember when Joe Biden
00:45:23.680
took office, he came out with this unity message, unify unity. And then the Democrats proceeded to
00:45:30.580
rip our borders wide open and actually create an illegal invasion into our country that's murdering
00:45:36.100
Americans every single day. Then they have spent the past eight years vilifying us, demonizing us.
00:45:43.300
Hillary Clinton labeled us as deplorables. They called President Trump Hitler. They called all
00:45:48.960
of us Nazis. They called all of us fascists, called us a threat to democracy. President Trump is going
00:45:55.100
to destroy democracy. He's going to become a dictator. No. And then they turned the Department of Justice
00:46:00.920
against us, weaponizing our justice system against people that protested the election on January 6th,
00:46:08.060
against Catholics having Latin mass, against parents wanting to hold their school boards
00:46:13.420
accountable, against pro-life protesters protesting against abortion. Put Peter Navarro in prison.
00:46:23.200
Steve Bannon is in prison right now. God bless Steve Bannon, by the way. I want to say that,
00:46:27.280
everyone. Keep praying for him every day. And then also here, they want to put President Trump
00:46:32.380
in jail the rest of his life. And Benny Thompson, one of my Democrat colleagues who is the ranking
00:46:38.500
minority leader on Homeland, a committee I serve on, introduced a piece of legislation with a whole
00:46:44.040
bunch of Democrat colleagues co-sponsoring it to take away President Trump's Secret Service detail.
00:46:50.860
Natalie, no, we're not unifying with that. There is no unity with that. And the Democrats have a long
00:46:56.840
ways to go. If they ever truly want unity in this country, they owe America an apology. They need to
00:47:03.660
absolutely drop all these charges against President Trump. They need to rein in their weaponized
00:47:08.560
justice system. They need to release these political prisoners. Every single one of them. Release the
00:47:14.340
political prisoners from prison. And they need to rein in the rabid media. The rabid media that's
00:47:21.040
supposed to report the news to everybody, but act as political activists under these powerful
00:47:25.600
platforms and have brainwashed, like Blue Anon, literally half the country, to the point, Natalie,
00:47:31.160
they think that this assassination attempt was fake and staged. If it had been Joe Biden that there was
00:47:36.740
an assassination attempt on, do you think there would be calls for unity? What do you think the response
00:47:40.880
would be? Oh, I know. We know what would happen, ladies and gentlemen, and I hope there's a lot of
00:47:45.300
people on the left watching this. You people would have been out in the streets, burning down cities like
00:47:50.400
you did the entire summer of 2020. Looting stores, destroying businesses, attacking police officers,
00:47:57.740
absolutely attacking federal courthouses. You would be fighting us, murdering us in the streets
00:48:04.560
if that had happened. But that didn't happen, did it, Natalie? No, we didn't go out rioting. We didn't go
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out destroying property. We didn't go out murdering and attacking people like the left has lied about us
00:48:15.420
for all these years. No, we went to prayer. We dropped to our knees and we prayed for our president.
00:48:20.860
We prayed for his family. We prayed for America. And we prayed to our God who we know saved Donald
00:48:28.340
Trump's life. The most that we call for with Joe Biden is he should retire and go enjoy time with
00:48:33.600
his grandchildren, maybe brought in prison for the corruption. Well, I actually like to impeach him and
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I've been trying for many years. And on that front, right, you guys are obviously going to be
00:48:42.980
holding a hearing. What is it? In a few days on with the director of secret service. What are you
00:48:48.040
guys hoping to hone in on for an agency that is, of course, overseen by DHS, which for what is it
00:48:54.200
nearly a decade has reworked the definition of domestic extremism and domestic terrorists to
00:48:58.680
basically exclude people like the shooter? Because to them, they get this myopic tunnel vision
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that domestic extremism is synonymous with MAGA and anyone else. They don't want to touch it.
00:49:08.420
They don't care. Well said. That's one of the best descriptions I've heard. Thank you.
00:49:13.800
So for people watching at home who are so frustrated and so angry, I clearly totally agree with you.
00:49:21.760
Right now, while you're going, what are Republicans doing? That's a great question. So let me let
00:49:27.100
everyone know what's happening. We're having our convention this week. But what you don't see
00:49:31.940
happening behind the scenes is I serve on the Homeland Committee. We are preparing for hearings next week.
00:49:37.500
We're calling Secretary Mayorkas in. That is the Homeland is the agency that is over secret service.
00:49:44.360
I also serve on the oversight committee. We are bringing in the secret service director. We're
00:49:49.260
demanding answers and accountability. I believe this woman should resign before she comes into our
00:49:54.160
committee. That'd be the right thing to do. That is the proper thing to do. That's the respectable
00:49:58.640
thing to do. But obviously, she says she won't resign. And Mayorkas says he fully supports her.
00:50:03.940
So our staffs are working very hard lining up. We are pulling as much information as possible
00:50:09.320
through the investigations and the law enforcement investigations that are happening right now.
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Please be patient with us. And I understand the like, come on, you should be doing it today
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feeling. I feel that too. Monday, we are getting to work and we'll be doing everything we can
00:50:25.960
to bring as much answers and accountability as possible.
00:50:29.400
And in terms of the ongoing investigation, if you can stay through the break, we'd love to have
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you. But I know you're a busy lady, so no worries. But they're saying he's a lone wolf. That was
00:50:37.540
before they could get into the phone. So sort of curious how they could be able to deduce that
00:50:41.560
in terms of kind of rolling out the motivations for this individual. Do you think we're going to
00:50:45.360
get any kind of clarity on that? Or do you think they're going to try to weaponize that
00:50:49.160
to create certain narratives? What's your take on that?
00:50:52.160
Right. So, you know, the government is the one that lies to us all the time, right?
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I mean, the government was the one in the intelligence community. 51 of them signed
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their name to a lie saying that the Hunter Biden laptop wasn't real. The intelligence community
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created the Russia hoax and sold it. And the media sold it across America. These are the same
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people that couldn't figure out the Las Vegas shooting, right, Natalie?
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Don't trust the experts. We've got to jump to a break. If you can stay, we'd be honored to have
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you, but we get it if you're busy. Warren Posse. Hopefully, we'll be back after a break.
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