Episode 3765： WarRoom RNC Special Day 4： New MAGA Deal
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Former White House strategist Peter Navarro joins Jemele to discuss his time in the White House and how he got into trouble with the law. He also talks about why he thinks Donald Trump should be locked up and why he doesn t think Steve Bannon should be either.
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Every person who has taken me on this road to that prison is a frigging Democrat
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and a Trump hater. It starts with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who forms the J6 committee.
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I'm pissed. That's what I'm feeling right now. But I'm also afraid of only one thing. I'm afraid
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for this country, because this, what they're doing, should have a chilling effect on every
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American, regardless of their party. If they come for me, they can come for you.
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Well, you know, as a person, I wish it was four years instead of four months. But it is always
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heartening to see the system work and to see someone who has worn a suit and tie to work
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forever and has been in the halls of power be held accountable for refusing. You know,
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I wish more people had been charged with contempt of Congress. I understand why they weren't.
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If we don't control all three branches of our government, legislative, executive and judicial,
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their government will put some of us like me and Steve Bannon in prison
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Well, I think the issue is that people like Peter Navarro and others are still out there
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trying to radicalize Americans. Right. That's the point of this whole thing. And I almost feel like
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it's projection. It's we the willingness and wanting it to happen. Right. That's the issue is
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that they want to see this happen in the United States to kind of sort of thrive on it. And it backs
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their narrative. And it's also a way to kind of like express intimidation towards Americans and say,
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you know, given what's going on, the rule of law is prevailing right now and we're in some serious
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trouble. But we want to push these narratives to create fear, fear in communities. Right. And
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speaking of the law and order narrative, that's what they did. That's what they did in the summer
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of 2020. I was there for that. They were pushing that sort of law and order, fear and suburban things
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that is classic Trump and Peter Navarro. And look, Peter Navarro, I just want to say,
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was considered a complete lunatic in the West Wing of the White House. I had strict orders to keep him
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out of the vice president's office because he would write these conspiracy field memos that he
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wanted to deliver to vice president Mike Pence at the time. And I was specifically ordered by the
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vice president's chief of staff to take those memos out of his hand and make sure that he never stepped
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foot in the office. That's the kind of individual that we're dealing with right now. We heard Peter
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Navarro, who is fresh out of jail, I should know, by the way, literally got out today. And I was like,
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every formally, come on now, I want every formally incarcerated person in America,
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especially all the black and brown people, to have the privileges that these formally incarcerated,
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non-low melanated, because when people, it is low melanation, it's not non-melanated,
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the formally incarcerated, low melanated individuals have, because I just, it is astounding,
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Because, I mean, the reality is he is helping to write the planning for how Donald Trump would
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stay in office. So you're saying the vice president wanted him completely kept out.
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How much influence did he have on the Trump side of that?
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Well, that's the issue, right? He would then take those memos and distribute them around the
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rest of the West Wing, try to get in Donald Trump's ear. I mean, he did this countless of
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times. And I'll tell you, the staffers were aware of the type of lunacy that he was doing. I mean,
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this is a man who also, I mean, tried to pick a fight with Dr. Hahn, a doctor in the West Wing.
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This was in the hallway where the vice president and chief of staff actually had to step in and
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separate. So, I mean, picture that and picture another Trump presidency with Peter Navarro at
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the helm and these types of individuals running amok and trying to run a country.
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They stripped me of every possible defense. And then what? Just like in Manhattan with Donald
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Trump, they threw me to the wolves of an anti-Trump jury in where? The D.C. swamp.
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They convicted me. They jailed me. Guess what? They did not break me.
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And they will never break Donald Trump. They will never break Donald Trump.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval
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on these people. Here's the time I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people,
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the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried
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to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega Media. I wish in my soul,
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I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Yo, Navarro here, back. Good to be back with the posse. And I couldn't be more pleased to be sitting
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next to my good brother here. The man you need to know if you don't know him, he's been on the
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War Room before, Sergio Gore. Now, what I love about this guy is he's running the most successful
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now conservative publishing imprint on behalf of Don Jr. And I'm so pleased that he's publishing
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the new book, the new MAGA deal. And Sergio, you're much more than a publisher because you're
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also one of Donald Trump's right hand men. He's a he's a great person. I think I just want to say
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on behalf of everyone yesterday, you blew it out of the water. People were so happy with your speech.
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People were so happy to see you back here. So welcome back. Don't go anywhere again.
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It is unbelievable. I don't know if the viewers have seen the reception that you have gone.
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You can't walk through hallways without people stopping you.
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You know what made that speech? I walked out there. It was the audience. I didn't know what
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to expect. And the warmth of that audience and it's just everything.
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It was incredible. I was actually with the president at a meeting. Yeah, he stopped the
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meeting as soon as he saw you and said, no, no, no, we got to watch this because let's take a few
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minutes. So you watch the whole thing start to finish. Loved it. Absolutely loved it. So
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congratulations. Bonnie was great when she came out on stage. I hope people love that perfect speech.
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He loved it. He was very happy. He was very happy. And, um, he loves you, frankly.
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Um, look, this country loves him and we need him so much. And, um, my worst day in prison
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the day he got shot, um, I was sitting in, uh, there's like a room where it's a combination
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ping pong tables, TVs. And I'm trying to do some, some emails actually working on the speech. And I
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looked up and the first thing I noticed was the venue. I'm going, man, has that been a bunch of
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these? I'm going, wait a minute. This thing has this band box feel to it. What the hell are those
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trees doing in the background? Right. And then they pan out there and they see these rooftops.
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I'm thinking, no, I don't know. They go back and then it hits the fan and, and it was, it was
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helpless in there. And that was the worst day I had. It was, um, I think all of us were in such
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shock. Um, it just didn't feel real, if that makes sense. It's, it's how, how you have
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hundreds of law enforcement officers everywhere. I don't know if you saw the director of secret
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service was here yesterday. You know, it's funny thing. Um, I was, I was sitting up top,
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uh, my, my, my dearest girl who knocked it out of the park in that speech at the end.
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Um, we're, we're sitting there watching and it's this big commotion comes by and we, we turn
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and they're saying Senator Barrasso read her, the frigging riot act, Chris Lasavita had to
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come and separate him. Yeah. And separate him. And then, then they got, she was refusing to
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answer questions. Why would she come to this place? Correct. You know, that's a desecration
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of the temple. Exactly. Exactly. How dare you, especially when you, when you get, after you
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almost got the president assassinated and then you're telling secret service not to wear red
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ties. Are you frigging kidding me? I mean, these people, there's so many of them, Sergio,
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they need to be investigated and, and, and behind bars, frankly, you know, they put the good guys
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behind bars. You're right. And, and meanwhile, they, they run, they run crazy. So no, it was
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absolutely, it was chaotic. When she walked through there, you had multiple senators and
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she just refused to answer any of the questions. She just kept walking. Why was she there?
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Who knows? Who knows? She just wanders in. Yeah. I mean, you know, she's the director.
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I guess she can, she can, she can do what, well, exactly. She got, she got what she deserves.
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Um, what are we looking at tonight? You got a busy day. You had a busy
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day yesterday, um, yourself and the convention. So you would kind of have two parallel tracks.
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As you mentioned your book, which just came out this week and we encourage everyone to
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get it on new mega deal.com. Um, I've been getting on your case a little bit because the
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Patriots, and by the way, a lot of them from this show. So go ahead, sign the first one
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so people can see, but literally we've sold thousands of these signed copies. So if your
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book has not arrived yet, we're going to get Dr. Navarro to sign these today, but I was
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in prison. He was in prison. And do you want to share this story? Yes, go ahead.
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There's two funny stories about that because on two separate occasions, um, I had a guy
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come in with, uh, all of these, these, they're the, the, the book plates, right? You sign them
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and then, and then, um, Sergio personally puts them in each book. I I'm told that
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right. Um, Don does actually, we put Don. Okay. Kimberly helps. She's very good at it.
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Okay. Yeah. It's a cottage operation in the Trump world. This is very hands-off.
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You're right. And so the first time the guy comes in and he's got like red pens everywhere
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and these things are out in the open and stuff like that. And the guards take one look at
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him and go, you can't bring it. Right. So we try again in a couple of weeks, like a little
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bit more discreet, right? The cards in some envelopes and stuff like that. I actually got
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out of the, I got out of the room. I'm halfway around the quad and that guy goes, Hey, Navarro.
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That's amazing. Turn around. I go, Oh, Sergio is going to be on my ass. No, but we love the
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viewers, the Patriots. We've gotten hundreds of emails from people that watch this show
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asking about you. Don and I joined the show, um, with Steve after we visited you and the amount
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of outpouring, the amount of support that you received was incredible. Last night was your
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first full night out. What was that like? Um, well, I mean, you go from, um, prison to the floor
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of the Republican national convention. And you literally flew from Miami. Got out in the early
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morning. Right. My girl met, meets me there, uh, and, um, jump on a plane. We actually had
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some problems with that because the planes avionics were down. We had to swap, you know,
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it was kind of the whole thing, but it's a surreal, uh, I wouldn't put it past the deep state to try
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to block you from coming here. But, um, you know, it's just, um, it's so good to be back with the
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folks. And, you know, I'd get out and they put Steve in. I mean, that's just incredible. That's
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a sacrilege. And the whole theme of the speech last night is I went to prison. So you won't have
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to. And what I was trying to tell people there, which by the way, I thought was one of the loudest
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applause lines, the convention hall erupted. And you never know. Cause I thought the whole theme of
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the speech for me more kind of conceptually was if we don't control our government, their government
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will control us. But at the end of the day, viscerally, I think people understand that what
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I went through has really heightened awareness about this weaponization of now the injustice
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system. And my case, I mean, the whole control, we don't control our government. I go through the
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speech and it was like, it's a legislative branch, the executive and the judicial branch, all three
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branches of government were involved in my imprisonment. I mean, think about that. And, and there
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wasn't a single Republican involved in any of that. Of course, it was every time it was the
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Democrat, Democrat majority in the house holds me in contempt. Merrick Garland, Democrat
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attorney general indicts me and prosecutes me for a crime. That's not really a crime
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ever in our history. And then I get this Democrat judge, Ahmed Mehta. And besides stripping me of
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every possible defense, the worst thing he really did was not release me pending the appeal. I mean,
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this is a historical constitutional case that if it's not thrown out, executive privilege and
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constitutional separation of powers is dead. It's gone. So how can, how can that not be a
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significant issue for the Supreme court? So here we are. Um, and here you are. And, um,
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Well, you've done, you've done a phenomenal job. I think you're making a great case on what needs
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to change quickly. What's the boss's, uh, run a show tonight. What time's he going on?
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Um, he'll be speaking in the evening in, um, the nine o'clock hour, nine o'clock hour. So it's a
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final night of the convention. You know, he loves those short speeches. Um, but I think people are
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in, um, it's, it'll be incredible. All right. We'll be right back. Uh, Sergio Gore,
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new magadeal.com. And, uh, I've got to sit here and sign these things on the break. I'm not allowed
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any water or anything. And my girls here, you're going to see here in a little bit too. All right.
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Be right back. Steve, if you're watching, we're with you, brother.
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Hey, you're watching Good Morning America. We've taken over that show and we're going to do kind
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of the good morning America stuff for the posse. But I don't know if you saw my little talk last
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night, but this girl stole the show. That's my sweetheart. I call her Pixie. And the way we ended
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that speech last night, it's really true. I want to talk a little bit about when people get sent to
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prison, particularly when they shouldn't be sent to prison. Uh, it's really, it's really their
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families that do the time with them. And, um, my girl here say hi. Hi. Yeah. Tell them a little
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bit about, tell them a little bit about the weekend, uh, a little weekend. She would come every weekend.
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Tell them what you saw in the visitor's room and all that stuff. Yeah. Well, it's, yeah,
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it's really hard because as much as you want to see, as I wanted to see Peter and dying to see
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and look forward to it most of the week, you know, it's really hard because it's very unpredictable
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of like, you know, if, um, the doors are going to open on time because, you know, things, you know,
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happen in the prison and, uh, just the, the unpredictable part of it. And then you're in a
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room with so many other, you know, uh, uh, you know, inmates and, uh, the families, you know,
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forget about them, but the families and the children and they sit as I did with Peter for
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more than three and a half hours, just talking all together. And, uh, you know, and then to leave
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the heartbreak, you know, on Sunday, that was the last bit I visited, you know, you're visiting
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Saturday and Sunday and, uh, you know, the Sunday goodbye, like it breaks, it breaks my heart.
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He, you know, it's just, you know, it's heartbreaking. Forget about me, but, you know, for the other,
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um, you know, loved ones, mothers, families, and the children. Yeah. So, uh, but, um,
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She had a couple of boys, uh, wanted, wanted to, uh, get adopted by her, I think as co-parents
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there. And yeah, I mean, we've become like, you know, a, you know, a family. Um, so, you
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know, cause it's just survival mode. Everybody's on survival mode, but, but, you know, Peter and
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I always knew thanks to him and his strength and amazing, uh, you know, um, fortitude, you
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know, we got this. And I'm, I'm going to talk, uh, we got this. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. But we're
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prisoners too. I mean, you know, I always talk about, you know, I can't call, I couldn't call
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him at any time. We can't email at any time. And, um, sometimes the phones were out just of, you
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know, you know, the, maybe, uh, lightning or just the phones didn't work. And if we didn't know
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beforehand, it's like, you know, what's happened, you know? So yeah, we are, we're prisoners too, but
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you're the hero, dear, not me. Well, posse's the hero. We got a lot of, we got a lot of
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work to do. And, um, yeah, next week, uh, I'll get on the show and I want to do a whole
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show on the scandal at the Bureau of prisons, um, that I uncovered. Uh, I couldn't figure
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out why I got sent to prison other than for political punishment, but it almost turned out
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to be a good thing because what I learned about the Biden administration and the scandal
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of the Bureau of prisons, it's a $5 billion scandal, um, that involves just direct horrific
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abuses, um, of the inmates themselves. Um, don't worry. I haven't gone soft on crime,
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smart, but what you got to do. Yeah. You got to be smart on crime. And the idea here is that
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a lot of these first time nonviolent offenders, they're there for crushingly long sentences
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and they're supposed to get out at a certain time and they're just not being let out. And
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what that does is it costs us money as taxpayers, but these families, it's like,
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it's, it's a sad situation where they don't have anybody to put bread on the table and they wind up
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food stamps, housing subsidies, this, that, and the other thing. And these things are, it's a,
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it's a warehousing system that doesn't work. The warehouses are good for the violent types,
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but for these first timers, um, it's an issue. So this girl, she was my rock during it. And, um,
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I really, uh, really appreciate your support. Oh God. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. That's what,
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you know, that's what we do. And you miss Steve too, don't you? Yes. Yes. You know,
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I was on the show, um, a few months ago and then, um, with Matt Gates recently. Yes, of course. Yes.
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I'm sure he's sitting here, you know, you, you miss Steve too. Um, but again, thank you,
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War Room audience. Um, always, I've always thanked them, you know, throughout the show and,
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you know, for your support, just knowing that you're there and then the comments, you know,
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we read on the War Room, like, you know, it's just, it's a lot. Yeah. Let me talk a little bit about what I was
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trying to do, um, doing that speech last night. Um, if you kind of, kind of break, break it down,
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I mean, the, the, the dramatics of, of somebody walking out of prison in the morning, having been
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in there for essentially defending the constitutional separation of powers and winding up on the stage
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in Milwaukee of, of, of what is going to be arguably the most important presidential election
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in, in the last hundred years. I mean, you know, this posse, if we lose this election,
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we're going to lose this country, lose this election. We are going to lose this country.
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And what I'm concerned about right now is that, let's face it, everything's been going our way.
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Everything's been going our way and the polls look good and this and the other thing, but it's only
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July. Right. I've been through this. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sorry to interrupt you, but remember,
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you know, action, action, action, just because, you know, Biden, uh, looks feeble. Oh yeah. He's
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never going to win. No, you have to get out there and vote. And I think that's one of the greatest
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messages you can relay to everybody. You know, even when I'll take an Uber when, you know, Peter
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wasn't there to, I don't drive really well. So I take, depended on Ubers. Like I would talk to the
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Uber drivers and people and I would say, and they would, um, you know, they would bring up politics.
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It was in Florida kind of, we have conversations and I would always say before I step out of that
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car, please just make sure, you know, cause I knew, you know, they were, uh, you know, Trump
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supporters, the conversation, you know, just tell your friends, tell your family, just go
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member to vote, vote, vote. Right. Am I right? Absolutely right. And look, I, I am of the opinion
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and I wrote this, spoke about it under the worm almost two years ago. I don't believe Biden
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will actually be at the top of that ticket. And I've said from the outset, this is just
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kabuki theater. Yeah. The whole idea of Biden being the, not being the candidate, they didn't
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have to go through the obligatory primary fight. If they'd gone through a primary fight,
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the primary, you have to run to the extremes. And so you would have had, you know, the Gavin
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company kind of just trying to outwoke each other saying stuff, which would have got them
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in hot water in general. So I, you know, now you see everybody turn on Biden, including,
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uh, the, the fake news. And I mean, look, if, if this were a novel or a Hollywood movie,
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you, you reject it as being plot too predictable, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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The feeble guy gets on there. They expose him. Yeah. I, and then, and then, and then they dump
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him at the end and, and the savior comes through is who's that going to be? Um, Kamala, Gavin,
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Michelle, whoever, but as the boss says, um, let's see what happens in August.
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But what I'm saying to you folks is you've got to keep fighting on this. And what I love
00:24:55.420
about Steve Bannon in this show is that the people he has on teach us how to be political
00:25:05.160
activists in the best sense of the word. So if you, if you're out in your community, you
00:25:10.440
can go be a pre-seed captain. I personally would like to see between now and, um, late September,
00:25:19.860
uh, kind of a peaceful posse organized, um, in areas around this country, but particularly in,
00:25:28.700
in places featured in 2000 mules, that great movie so that we could do run surveillance,
00:25:35.520
peaceful surveillance on any drop boxes and any kind of nefarious activity. Cause you
00:25:42.440
know, the only way they're going to be able to win this election is by doing the 2000 mules
00:25:47.740
approach. And by now they probably got 10,000 mules. And what I mean by that, if you haven't
00:25:51.680
seen that movie, yes, they, um, that is a ballot box with absentee ballots that don't have
00:26:01.300
any people who signed him. Um, so get involved. I think there's a fine line between confidence
00:26:12.100
and overconfidence. Yes. And I'm worried now in kind of the exuberance of this all
00:26:19.780
that we're going to lose sight of the fact that this election is going to come down to
00:26:24.260
three states. I'm sitting right in one of them right now in Wisconsin, Wisconsin, it's
00:26:33.260
Michigan, Pennsylvania, right? We're here in Milwaukee and in Wisconsin, it's, it's Milwaukee
00:26:41.300
and Madison versus the rest of the state. That's the way it dopes out. But what you have in
00:26:47.900
Madison is you have, have the young folks. We're doing a good job of wooing them now in
00:26:53.480
the sense of the more and more of these young folks are realizing that if they want
00:26:57.420
job, house, car, family, a future, rather than have Zuckerberg plant a chip in their frigging
00:27:06.900
head, let them kind of live in a hovel and just enjoy the virtual world that they're going
00:27:13.260
to have to come over to Trump's America. Yes, indeed. Right. Um, and then here in Milwaukee,
00:27:20.160
um, the African-American voters are going to be a decisive factor. And I think we're doing
00:27:29.840
a good job there. Um, anyway, so any last words for the posse here and say hi to Steve?
00:27:37.300
Of course, of course. Hi, Steve Bannon. But we have his wonderful, beautiful Maureen Bannon
00:27:44.680
right by our side. I'm, um, not that she doesn't know already, but I tried it, you know, already
00:27:50.680
in like 10 minutes, I have a conversation with her to, you know, give her, you know, some advice
00:27:55.200
of the experienced, um, you know, uh, you know, so good or bad. Yeah, we got this election. Come
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on girl. Here we go. All right. We'll be right back. We're taking a break in the election too.
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All right. Navarro here. Day two out of prison. Feels pretty darn good. Oh, CPAC, Mr. C, get your
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ass over here. My CPAC boy. All right. That's, that's the hazards of being out in public. You
00:29:56.940
have all these people running by. Um, look, um, I want to do a little, uh, little short riff
00:30:05.200
on, uh, James David Vance. Um, because I want this posse to be at, uh, maximum double expresso
00:30:19.340
enthusiasm for J.D. Vance. Uh, I think, um, as the boss might use the word, it's really
00:30:28.780
a perfect choice. Uh, I've never met J.D., uh, but I feel a very special kinship with him
00:30:39.060
for a particular reason. And it has to do with what my mission was in the White House and
00:30:49.060
what my mission in life became in the early 2000s. Um, and that was to make sure that American
00:30:58.340
manufacturers and workers were defended well, uh, against the economic aggression of communist
00:31:07.960
China. And the reason why I feel a special kinship with J.D. has to do with, um, um,
00:31:19.060
how I came to the issue of communist China and, uh, how he came to it. If you go back to,
00:31:29.940
um, circa 2003, this was, uh, just a couple of years after communist China, communist China
00:31:42.300
joined the world trade organization. I was teaching at the university of California, Irvine at the
00:31:51.060
business school in a fully employed program. And I noticed, uh, people there were, um, basically
00:31:59.920
losing their jobs. And I'm thinking, wait a minute, we're in the, in the, uh, center of, hang on one
00:32:07.420
second. Hey, Hey, Hey, it's so funny. My, my producers are like, like, like just keep it down
00:32:18.900
there. Cool. So I'm, I met, um, I met the university of California, Irvine and, um, I'm seeing all
00:32:29.660
these, these students, they're like 30, 35, four years old, losing their jobs. And I'm thinking
00:32:35.280
what's going on here. And I'm studying this and all roads eventually lead to communist China. So I get,
00:32:41.740
I kind of dig into this thing and I recruit all these hundreds of students to start studying the
00:32:48.400
problem. And it was there, I came up with the framework that would land me in the white house.
00:32:55.420
Um, and it was like, okay, let's, let's break down how communist China is, um, destroying the
00:33:03.580
American manufacturing base and stealing millions of jobs. And it boiled down to not just the cheap
00:33:10.420
labor. That was kind of the common conception. You know, they're just taking advantage. No, no,
00:33:14.320
no. It was the intellectual property theft. It was the currency manipulation. It was all sorts
00:33:20.820
of things that they were doing. And what, what it was, was what president Trump would say years later,
00:33:28.100
American carnage. It was just the total destruction of our manufacturing base. And ground zero for that
00:33:34.840
was the Rust Belt, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. And I would write a book called the
00:33:45.740
coming China Wars that came out in 2006 that described this American carnage in the need to
00:33:53.100
stand up to communist China. And that would be the book that Donald Trump would actually read.
00:33:59.220
And in an interview with the Los Angeles Times say, Hey, this is one of my top favorite books.
00:34:04.620
And I would contact him. And that's how I'm wind up sitting on this couch and was on the stage last
00:34:10.100
night of the RNC. Now, what's my point? My point is that I'm, I'm a PhD from Harvard academic out in
00:34:18.460
California. I'm at 30,000 feet trying to figure out why the macro economy of this country is going down
00:34:27.000
the tubes. Remember that we were on the glide path down into, uh, what was going to be the mother of
00:34:33.620
all great recessions in 07, 08, a lot of that Chinese induced. And I'm seeing all this and I'm
00:34:42.140
seeing the, the pain and suffering. And when I did my death by China film in 2011, I went out there and,
00:34:49.040
and would do the stories of these real people. So I'm at 30,000 feet looking down at that point.
00:34:55.440
And all I'm seeing is specs. The specs are the, the suffering people. And one of those specs was
00:35:03.520
J.D. Vance. One of those specs was his mother. Another was his father. Another was the people in
00:35:10.700
his community. He was living the experience at the micro level that I was seeing from 30,000 feet high.
00:35:21.460
And we were drawing over that time, the same kind of conclusions about the devastation that happens
00:35:31.860
when you lose America's ability to manufacture, to make things with your hands in factories.
00:35:42.740
And coming China wars, death by China books in a movie that I did that, that documents all of that.
00:35:55.160
But then you look at J.D. Vance's just classic hillbilly elegy. And that's the micro version of it.
00:36:04.760
That's the, that's the real life kind of version of what happened to these communities from
00:36:14.940
living experience. And, and both of us through very different experiences have come to the same
00:36:25.440
conclusion as Donald John Trump. And it's MAGA. It's the essence of a strong manufacturing base
00:36:34.480
as the anchor of communities, not just for economic prosperity. This isn't about
00:36:40.520
just the white picket fence. It's about our defense industrial base, the ability to defend
00:36:48.260
ourselves. If we don't have the factories here, then we're not going to have the ability. Remember
00:36:54.820
World War II, right? The arsenal of democracy. That was all of the factories that we had
00:37:02.420
throughout this country, primarily in the mess, but about in California at the time, they still
00:37:10.340
made stuff out there. Remember San Diego, they had all the, all the aircraft factories that
00:37:15.100
were used to build the fighters and the bombers that won us the war. J.D. Vance understands
00:37:22.880
this at the most visceral kind of level. And I think that it's a perfect choice because this
00:37:34.220
is not a national election. When you boil, I've been through two of these already. When you boil
00:37:41.220
down a presidential election, we're certainly going to try to compete in all states, but let's
00:37:49.940
be honest. There's blue states and there's red states. And I think because Biden, Harris have so
00:37:59.720
thoroughly bogged, just they ruined this country. We're going to compete in places that we may
00:38:09.060
ultimately win and win very well. One would be, for example, Minnesota, traditional social Democrats.
00:38:16.020
Um, but they also have the iron range up there and they have manufacturing there and they have
00:38:24.460
people there who are intelligent people who are looking around and saying it doesn't work to get
00:38:31.480
rid of the police force. It doesn't work to have all this wokeness in the schools. Um, but at the end of
00:38:39.760
the day, if we take this state here, Wisconsin, we take Michigan, we take Pennsylvania, Donald John
00:38:53.580
Trump will be the 47th president of this United States. And if you think about it, who better,
00:39:02.220
who better among the crop of vice presidential hopefuls would have done a better job at wooing and
00:39:14.720
campaigning in those states other than J.D. Vance? The man has credibility. I wrote a, or an article, um,
00:39:24.400
based on my memoir, the white house about what a president needs to look at in a vice president
00:39:32.620
loyalty, certainly to the man, uh, but important loyalty without being a sycophant. I think the
00:39:41.340
reason why I survived in the white house from the get go, uh, even back on the campaign, uh, I spoke
00:39:49.440
my mind and sometimes the boss didn't want to hear that at first, but, but he figured out that he would
00:39:57.460
get straight advice from me that I wasn't going to say what he wanted to be said. I was going to say
00:40:05.820
what I thought should be done. Once he made a decision, I was back that because I knew he was
00:40:13.160
wiser than me, but you need somebody who's loyal without being a sycophant. That's J.D. Vance.
00:40:19.440
But the second thing, and this is what MAGA posse, you know, this, you did not want a vice president
00:40:28.240
who wasn't going to embrace make America great again principles. And in the book, the, uh, the new
00:40:39.120
MAGA deal, which, which came out this week, it's the one that Don Jr. is publishing. Um, I talk about
00:40:47.280
the iron triangle of MAGA. It's, it's the Steve Bannon produced stuff here, fair trade. It was
00:40:57.020
really the signature of the 2016 campaign along with the second part of that triangle, secure
00:41:02.920
borders. And the third part, which there's nobody more eloquent besides Donald Trump on that third
00:41:10.180
leg than, than, than Stephen K Bannon. That's the end to the endless wars. And J.D. hits all three
00:41:17.380
points of that triangle. I mean, he was a veteran. He saw firsthand what an endless war could do
00:41:26.180
to, to the financial resources of his country and to his fellow soldiers.
00:41:35.180
So J.D., I mean, look, Kamala, just, I mean, it's funny in a way, Kamala Harris, she was given
00:41:44.160
one thing to do one friggin' thing to do in four years, one significant task. You know what it was?
00:41:56.740
Secure the border, be the border czar. 2021, Biden goes, hey, Kamala, go fix that. She goes down there
00:42:05.900
and sticks her nose up in the air as she likes to do. Sniffs that stench coming over the Rio Grande.
00:42:18.420
Turns tail and run. Okay. You think J.D. Vance would have done that if Donald John Trump said to J.D.,
00:42:25.900
go down there and fix that situation on the, on the boots on the ground while I fix it up here
00:42:32.420
with some executive orders? No. That's the difference between J.D. Vance and Kamala Harris,
00:42:38.580
among others. Among others. So J.D. Vance embraced this guy. They're going to go after him.
00:42:49.900
Once in a while, he might stumble. When he stumbles, we're going to be there to have his back
00:42:56.000
and catch him if he falls. And he's going to be a rock for this president.
00:43:01.960
I personally think he should spend most of his time. Milwaukee, Madison, upcountry Wisconsin,
00:43:11.740
Michigan, Pennsylvania, shipyards and the defense plants. Run like a governor.
00:43:19.880
We need to take those states. And I see Miles Guo right there. Free Miles Guo. Hey,
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Peter K. Navar in for Stephen K. Bannon in the war room. I couldn't be happier to have our next guest,
00:45:11.720
Rick Grinnell. I was really blessed that Rick wrote a chapter in the new MAGA deal. And what I love
00:45:18.720
about it is it's the big picture overview of the national security environment globally. He's only
00:45:26.920
got a few minutes, so I'm going to turn the mic right over to my brother in the White House. Thank
00:45:31.580
you, Rick Grinnell, man. You were great last night. And tell me about Ukraine. Tell me about Gaza.
00:45:38.600
Well, first of all, thank God you're here. I appreciate that. We thought about you a lot.
00:45:43.620
Yeah. So thank you for your fight. I know a lot of people really care. You electrified the place
00:45:48.700
last night. We had fun. I was watching MSNBC this morning and they said, we were watching the
00:45:53.780
teleprompter and he went off script. They were so offended with off script. You know, they like
00:45:59.900
everything to completely go their way. No dissenting views. They'll be offended tonight when the boss
00:46:05.920
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. He might go off script a time or two. Can I just say, you know,
00:46:10.940
Comcast owns NBC and MSNBC. Yeah. And Comcast is all over the country asking people to give them money
00:46:19.660
for cable access. Yeah. I really believe that Comcast has a responsibility
00:46:25.820
to watch what's happening on that network. It's really dangerous talk. I mean, I've been watching
00:46:34.160
Morning Joe regularly the last week. You have to know the enemy. Well, for me, it's just I want
00:46:40.800
there to be. Imagine a world where we just had the mainstream media like having dissenting voices.
00:46:46.260
Yes. I don't mind opinion shows. Yeah. I like them, actually. And sometimes I like to watch and
00:46:52.960
listen to the left opinion shows. But the reality is, is that NBC News, which is a network,
00:47:01.960
allows those voices at MSNBC to come in and out. And they're hate filled. They're one sided. They
00:47:10.000
don't like dissent. You can listen for hours and never hear a dissenting view. Comcast has to
00:47:15.120
start getting involved. We have to hold Comcast to account for this. This is not good.
00:47:21.380
Well, it's not just Comcast, to be honest. I mean, you look at CNN, you look at some of the
00:47:32.680
Corporate-owned media. I mean, but here's the thing. What are we on? Real America's voice. You go around
00:47:38.860
here. And I think when, and we're going to have to work hard for this. I'm not taking
00:47:45.360
it as a given. When Donald Trump becomes president, one of the things he'd be able to do is boost
00:47:51.200
up the alternatives to the pablum and pap. And, and I look, it's one of the reasons they
00:47:59.260
kicked him off of Twitter is because he was going around the media and going straight to
00:48:04.300
And let's not forget, like Fox has canceled Don Jr. Fox has canceled me. Fox has canceled
00:48:10.100
the number of people from even the Trump campaign. So, so what's going on there? They don't want
00:48:17.380
to hear the truth, but we can go out, I think, and, and some of these other, other networks
00:48:23.900
and, and like gateway pundit and good stuff like that.
00:48:28.160
Look, I think the consumers of news, all of us have a responsibility to have multiple sources.
00:48:36.380
You can't just get it from one. And I really think that people should listen to the left
00:48:44.120
You got to, you've just got to be able to take in all of the information. You have a responsibility
00:48:48.320
to do that. And I think too many people on the left don't do that. They just listen to
00:48:52.500
one side. They, they read the New York times and they think that's the truth.
00:48:56.520
I don't know if you know this, but this, this show is, is renowned for showing clips
00:49:05.320
Steve, that's his, his philosophy is your philosophy. And, um, that's on the agenda.
00:49:13.140
Good. Well, thanks for having me. Really appreciate it, brother.
00:49:18.000
And he's working really hard for the boss and we know we're going to see him in the
00:49:22.300
next administration. And it's going to be up there.
00:49:41.620
So, um, what I'm, what I'm going to do, uh, in a little bit, we just got a few more minutes
00:49:49.580
in, uh, in this particular segment. Um, I want to, I want to go back and talk a little
00:49:55.200
bit about, um, the, uh, the speech I, I gave last night and kind of break down some of the
00:50:02.380
themes I was trying to, uh, bring out because this whole issue of the weaponization of our
00:50:12.620
government is, I think it's going to be an important campaign issue. I mean, at the end
00:50:17.880
of the speech, I said, I went to prison so you won't have to. And what I meant by that
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is this idea that, that my situation, somebody in the high ranking official in the Trump
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administration winds up in prison for defending the doctrine of executive privilege. It goes
00:50:41.900
back to George Washington for defending the constitutional separation of powers winds up
00:50:46.560
in prison and at every step along the way, involving all three branches.
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of our government, executive, legislative, and judicial, all three, a Democrat or group
00:51:04.240
of Democrats was involved in my road to prison. And it was done for partisan reasons, partly
00:51:15.260
as a gambit to keep Trump out of the white house. Um, and partly as a gambit to keep
00:51:25.140
good people from, from serving with Donald Trump, because if you think you can go to jail, maybe
00:51:32.420
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