Willie Doyle and Peter Bergen discuss the growing number of voices calling for Joe Biden to step aside from the Democratic presidential campaign. They talk about what it means for Biden's chances of winning the nomination and what it could mean for his campaign if he decides to leave the race.
00:00:00.000It's a paralysis, and I wonder if that inability to sort of dig out of the crisis mode in terms of donors, in terms of stories, in terms of Democratic officials writing letters.
00:00:13.080Jamie Raskin has a new letter out today that's searing and eloquent and devastating politically for Joe Biden.
00:00:19.720Former President Barack Obama reportedly has concerns about President Biden's ability to stay at the top of the ticket.
00:00:26.100That's what two sources told NBC News. The former president sees Biden's victory as, quote, getting harder, one of the sources said.
00:00:35.440The Washington Post reports former President Obama has said President Biden needs to seriously consider the viability of his candidacy.
00:00:43.560You now have Barack Obama having his concerns known, Nancy Pelosi, the head, the top Democrat in the Senate, the top Democrat in the House,
00:00:54.400the top, President Biden's top fundraiser telling him flat out we just can't raise money.
00:01:00.180The money, all these sources have dried up.
00:01:02.720And there is a there is pushback from the Biden campaign and Mika read a statement last hour growing anger at especially the Obama faction that have been pushing,
00:01:15.980trying to push him out, saying these are the same people that this I'm actually quoting what they said.
00:01:21.620These are the same people who gave us Donald Trump in 2016 by pushing Joe Biden out the last time.
00:01:28.200But reporters are now hearing from senior people inside Joe Biden's world who a week ago maintained that there was no way he was going to step down,
00:01:40.000who are now saying things like we get it's over.
00:01:43.260It's a question of when, not whether that is what people who work for Joe Biden and not junior people who work for Joe Biden,
00:01:49.940senior people, not not at the very senior most levels, not not the first lady, not his not his son, Hunter.
00:01:57.640But others who are who are seeing the writing on the wall.
00:02:02.200And and I think that for everybody's sake, whether you are again, whether you're on the side of wanting Biden to stay in or wanting Biden to pull out,
00:02:09.860I think everyone would really like to, by the end of this weekend, know what the future is.
00:02:17.620I think that the tide has turned against Joe Biden.
00:02:21.560And if I had to bet, I think having the entirety of the leadership of his party now telling him, effectively telling him that he needs to step aside,
00:02:30.080would be very hard to maintain a candidacy in those circumstances.
00:02:36.200But either way, the party would be well served at the end of this Republican convention week with not very much time before the Democrat convention.
00:02:45.120Either way to know by Monday what the answer is.
00:02:49.680Seem like they're closing in and the lack, the fundraising drying up, these influential Democrats pushing him toward the door.
00:02:56.560Reigns to be seen if that just perhaps stiffens the president's resolve to stay in or whether his inner circle and the president himself eventually bow to the reality that he can't win.
00:03:05.200One of the things that the president has cited that he will inform his decision is to whether or not he thinks, if he's shown data, that someone else can beat Donald Trump.
00:03:15.080And that someone else in particular, his vice president, Kamala Harris and Michael Schmidt, you've been doing a lot of reporting on the vice president.
00:03:21.700And this delicate dance that she and her team have to conduct right now, where they are publicly fully supportive of President Biden.
00:03:30.360I know that's been well received in the West Wing.
00:03:32.340But of course, she and her allies recognize that if the president does step aside, there could be an opportunity here.
00:03:38.040But as Willie just noted, we don't know what would happen next if suddenly there's a vacancy at the top of the ticket, whether President Biden would say, look, I want you to go to my running mate or whether this is some sort of open, open contest.
00:03:49.600Yeah, what would that path look like, what, you know, what is the precedent for it and how much time is left on the clock for, you know, to do that?
00:04:01.100Could you and how would that be done at the convention?
00:04:04.540What we wrote about yesterday was about how this is behind the scenes been a bit messy.
00:04:11.040There have been different flare ups where the vice president's staff has been concerned that in the process of trying to prop up the president's, you know, chances of winning that they've denigrated the vice president or that they were going to denigrate the vice president.
00:04:27.780In one instance, learning that a staffer from the White House Legislative Affairs Office had been talking to a member of Congress and had may have, you know, basically said the vice president doesn't have good enough chances of winning.
00:04:44.000That's why Biden has to stay in the race.
00:04:45.920And this made its way all the way to the White House chief of staff, who had to send out warnings to West Wing officials that, look, you know, we need to be very careful in how we discuss the vice president here because of this unusual situation.
00:05:01.420We need to be able to to advocate for the president without denigrating the vice president, because, you know, the you know, I don't think the White House chief of staff said what I'm about to say, but because the vice president could be the person on the ticket.
00:05:15.220And that's really hard of, you know, thing to navigate.
00:05:20.140And they've had to to really confront that in the past three weeks as they've done this dance and as the vice president has probably had the best, you know, three weeks of her time in office where she has really found her footing and been out there as sort of the tip of the spear for the campaign.
00:05:40.780This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:05:45.220Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.
00:05:51.200You're just not going to get a free shot.
00:05:52.460All these networks lying about the people.
00:05:55.440The people have had a belly full of it.
00:06:26.300Friday 19th of July, Anno Domini, 2024.
00:06:38.520Harnwell here in the helm, covering in for Steve Bannon, presently sitting as one of Joe Biden's political prisoners in a federal jail.
00:06:49.980A lot has changed since I was last on the show.
00:06:52.760I think I was last on the show Saturday before the assassination attempt.
00:06:57.820I think when future historians come to write the official narrative of this election campaign,
00:07:05.720they're going to look at the 13th of July and divide it, basically, the story of this campaign into a before and after.
00:07:14.440Now, one of the things that was performed, we've been discussing this on the War Room, I think, for the last three, six months.
00:07:23.260Steve Bannon obviously took the initiative on this, took the leadership position on this, saying that Joe Biden won't be the Democrat nominee.
00:07:32.080I think before the assassination attempt, the most likely candidate to succeed Joe Biden would not have been Kamala Harris.
00:07:42.300And I think that because before the assassination attempt, the Democrats still had a fantasy, a daydream that they might be able to win or keep the White House in November.
00:07:54.760I no longer think that that's possible.
00:07:56.780And therefore, as of course, the momentum to remove Joe Biden is still there.
00:08:03.360And I'm going to suggest I'm going to talk to my next guest now.
00:08:06.080And I think that the priority now for the Democrats is the down ballot campaigns to try to keep to take as many seats in the House and in the Senate as possible.
00:08:16.940I think they're going to give up on the White House.
00:08:20.840It's difficult to see now people like Gavin Newsom, who would want to throw away, willingly throw away their only chance at winning for the White House in a campaign that I don't think they think that they're going to win in November.
00:08:34.760And so casting around, well, you know, if we're not going to run Gavin Newsom, we're not going to run Richemont or what have you, who are we going to put up?
00:08:50.820And then, of course, I think, you know, well, there's a candidate there that I don't think is particularly popular amongst the Democratic elites.
00:08:58.500This is Kamala Harris herself. I think now actually this could be her opportunity to stand and she will be for the Democratic Party, something of a sacrificial goat so that they can run a candidate.
00:09:15.120She'll lose and then they can start concentrating and building a future around a more substantial figure.
00:09:21.240Now, Charlie Spearing, you are the Daily Mail senior political correspondent.
00:09:26.240You like Kamala Harris so much. You even wrote the book on her.
00:09:32.320Yeah. Good morning to you. Is this now her moment? Is this now the moment of tackling Kamala?
00:09:39.120Well, it certainly is. And when I first wrote the book, the introduction, I run through this scene of Biden's advisers really struggling with or like what they're going to do on the day they realize that Biden can't continue.
00:09:51.980And what I write in the book is a big reason why they did that is because they the reason why they pushed Biden towards reelection, even though they weren't necessarily certain he could make it, was that Kamala Harris was not ready.
00:10:05.760When Biden decided to run for reelection, Kamala Harris was not ready. She had she had historically low approval ratings.
00:10:13.600She had she was bad on the stump. Her first three years were filled with mistakes and cautions and gaffes.
00:10:20.980So that was a big part of it. And now look at where we are today.
00:10:26.360You you saw in that Morning Joe clip where the reporter is talking about how Kamala has reasserted herself on the stage.
00:10:33.140Well, that's very, very convenient for Democrats who's who have been, you know, ripping on her for years behind the scenes.
00:10:41.440Now they suddenly want to lift her up and put her on a pedestal and give her another chance at a reboot.
00:10:45.980And I really think that's where we're headed in going forward as Biden steps down.
00:10:50.420I think that the major media outlets are going to give Kamala Harris a chance to reboot her image, even though she's been trying to do it repeatedly throughout her entire vice presidency.
00:10:59.080But do you accept my thesis that now this actually could be her opportunity?
00:11:05.880It seems to me that the momentum is so especially after this convention in Milwaukee, it seems to me that the momentum is so clearly behind Donald Trump now.
00:11:15.420You have I mean, the Democrats have sort of pseudo substantial candidates that they might want to save for an opportunity, you know, perhaps against J.D. in 2028, that they might want to hold back.
00:11:27.500They might not want to burn on an election campaign that is looking ever more difficult for them.
00:11:34.100For example, the Economist today had this poll up where they where they put Donald Trump already now at plus three in the polls against Biden.
00:11:45.580In fact, really, I think it's going back. He hasn't. Biden hasn't been ahead against Trump since February.
00:11:54.740Excuse me. Since February, the momentum has only ever been increasing towards Trump.
00:11:59.460And it hasn't been since September of last year that Biden's actually been ahead.
00:12:03.240But what do you think to this thesis that now could actually be her moment for the Democrats to dump a candidate at the top of the list, like a spare that's not popular, is seen to be even by Democrats as widely incompetent.
00:12:21.800This could be the moment just to throw her out there as a sacrament of a lamb.
00:12:26.600Yeah, I think you're right. And that's absolutely what they're going to do, because for two reasons.
00:12:34.700One, they cannot just leapfrog over Kamala Harris or push her aside without angering a significant portion of their base that they for that's the very reason they chose her in the first place to pick a candidate who could inspire a huge chunk of their base.
00:12:48.380And so if they try to push her aside now, that would only anger their base.
00:12:52.440And a lot of Kamala allies are behind the scenes warning the Biden team.
00:12:57.080Hey, if you if you step down, Mr. President, you better back Kamala because she's had your back.
00:13:03.600You know, there's a little bit of mixed history on that.
00:13:06.600But at least she's right now, you know, has done everything she can to have Biden's back as he insists that he's going to stay in.
00:13:13.960There's been no backstabbing yet, at least not that we know of.
00:13:17.620There may be some some stuff behind the scenes.
00:13:19.720But currently, Kamala Harris is doing everything she can to prove to to prove to voters and prove to donors that she has that she will be a good soldier.
00:13:30.040What's also interesting is that she is going to continue this way until they tell her that she can't.
00:13:36.840The moment she finds out they're trying to push her out, watch out that that could get very ugly.
00:13:41.340So, yeah, obviously, you know, I don't think she would have a serious I don't know if I if I buy the line that the Democrats would sort of sort of constrained and obliged to run her in November.
00:13:57.240I think there would have been enough forces within Democratic leadership to push for an open convention simply because it's so important that for the down ballot.
00:14:07.620We'll talk about this after the break, if I may, to talk about the down ballot push now, which is all important for the Democrats,
00:14:14.500because if they if they're now waking up to the reality that they are going to lose on November the 5th,
00:14:19.280it's absolutely imperative of them to to to try and take as many seats as they can in Congress, in the House and in the Senate.
00:14:31.360But, Charlie, just just tell me quickly, I mean, do you just say yes or no in 10 seconds?
00:14:39.660Do you think Kamala would have had the gravitas to face down the rest of the big wigs in the party if Biden had pushed for an open convention?
00:14:51.080Probably you're saying that if the big wigs push for an open convention.
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00:16:12.300Democratic Party that are trying to push or shove, I think, are doing a disservice to all of the work that has been done in the last three and a half years by the Biden-Harris administration.
00:16:26.380So, again, I'm not saying he should move out.
00:16:29.500I'm not pushing for him to step aside.
00:16:32.640I'm pushing for us to have a very unemotional, clear perspective on how we salvage the progress that has been made in the last three and a half years and move forward.
00:16:43.140Because we have real danger, which was demonstrated last night by Donald Trump.
00:16:47.780We have real danger to all of those achievements.
00:16:50.180Back here in Steve Bannon's war room with Charlie Spearing, senior political reporter for the Daily Mail.
00:16:58.760Charlie, just before the break, I was trying to, I mean, you studied her, you've written about her, you've written a book about her, Amateur Hour.
00:17:06.420You have, you've weighed her personality, her abilities or lack thereof.
00:17:11.460Do you think, what is the next step now?
00:17:15.440Because I think it's clear, you know, we saw this in the cold open at the beginning of the show.
00:17:19.860It's absolutely clear that the Democratic machinery is performing what I called, I think, last week on my getter feed, the discard.
00:17:27.840They are discarding the president, the current illegitimate president of the United States.
00:17:34.500They are discarding him now in full open sight.
00:17:38.520And we see this, you know, the leaks, the soundings from Pelosi, from Adam Schiff, from Barack Obama.
00:17:45.820It's clear at this level now when these soundings are coming out and these sort of counsels to Biden,
00:17:51.740it's clear that Biden's previous line, that as long as he gave it his best shot, isn't good enough for the Democrats,
00:18:01.540who will definitely want to be taking the speaker's gavel in the House of Representatives.
00:18:08.660Do you think, having studied Kamala Harris, that she has the gravitas to face down people like Joe Biden
00:18:17.420as this decision is being made over this weekend, in case Biden wanted to go to an open convention,
00:18:23.100do you think she has the gravitas within the party, the natural personal authority to talk Biden out of it
00:18:31.580and just simply to anoint her, or even potentially to give way as president before November,
00:18:38.980so she can actually run in the election as president of the United States itself?
00:20:06.600You know, and maybe she would rather prefer that because she could actually earn it rather than just being anointed.
00:20:11.240But as we were saying before the break, at this point, if it's looking so unlikely for the Democrats to win the White House, to keep the White House on November the 5th,
00:20:23.240an expendable candidate that has no real future at the top of the ticket in any other context,
00:20:33.340Carmel House would be the perfect solution for them now.
00:20:36.680They play that card now, get it out of the way, and then move on to someone more substantial, for example, from the shortlist that you're just running through in 2028.
00:20:49.700I mean, it's really like what what Democrat with a few with a bright political future wants to step into this mess and try to take out Trump in just a couple of months.
00:21:02.840And I don't think that necessarily a Gretchen Whitmer or Gavin Newsom or a Josh Shapiro or any other of these like these like budding political Democrat stars.
00:21:12.900I don't know if they want to risk their political future in this messy race with when Donald Trump is already stomping all over Democrats across the country.
00:21:22.820From the point of view of the American public, you know, I didn't mean to be cynical when I say this, but Kamala Harris, the vice president of the United States, is effectively a DEI hire.
00:21:36.780She was appointed for specific criteria that Biden had announced that she's a woman.
00:21:50.180It was he she wasn't picked on on the account of her abilities.
00:21:52.820I think a legitimate question when we saw when we see again and again and again the footage of this assassination attempt and you see this undertrained FBI agent unable flapping and floundering around, unable even to holster her gun properly.
00:22:10.460And you're thinking, you know, OK, so look, this thing about the political correctness, the wokeness across, you know, in the armed forces, in the security sort of security agencies, these these things actually have visible knock on consequences.
00:22:30.820I think Americans, it would be legitimate to say, do we even want to see this now is probably a question for a later point once we know who the Democratic nominee will be.
00:22:41.020But I think it's a legitimate question.
00:22:42.440Say, do we want to see this kind of underperforming incompetence now at the top of the at the top of the tickets, potentially with the football, with the hands on the nuclear code?
00:22:56.800Perhaps it's probably a moment to take a step back.
00:22:59.660This is why I don't think Kamala was necessarily the shohin she believed she was up until a week ago.
00:23:06.680But it's absolutely clear, I think, and I'd like to ask your opinion on this.
00:23:10.640It's absolutely clear after the chaos and incompetence surrounding the assassination attempt against Donald Trump last Saturday.
00:23:23.080The appointment of people to tick boxes has gone too far in America, of all countries, needs to return back to something elemental in its DNA, which is the promotion of people because of their merit.
00:23:38.060Yeah, and I think you're going to see the American media giving Kamala Harris a chance to prove herself on merit, even though everything she's done so far has been kind of lacking.
00:23:52.080I think right now Kamala is the best thing going for Kamala is that she can walk down a flight of stairs and deliver a speech.
00:23:59.940And, wow, she could actually compete in a debate.
00:24:04.060You know, Kamala Harris, actually, you know, despite of all the word salads and the moments of missteps and the bad moments in the first three years, she was a candidate because she's actually a pretty good debater.
00:24:15.700She debated Mike Pence quite well during their debate, and she also was the one that took shots at Joe Biden and landed effective blows during the primary.
00:24:25.860Now, it didn't help her necessarily in the polls, but I do think that if she can show up and deliver a good speech, she can show up and deliver a good debate performance.
00:24:35.040I think she could definitely debate better than Joe Biden did in the presidential debate, and she's thirsty for that.
00:24:42.780She wants to debate Donald Trump and has been wanting to do that her entire career.
00:24:47.120So I do think that a couple of effective speeches, a couple effective debate performances, she could very well earn the love and respect of the Democratic Party, as crazy as it seems.
00:24:58.460I think when you compare it to Biden, I think that the Democrats will be slightly more inclined to back her at this point.
00:25:05.740You don't think, on the other hand, that winning a debate against Mike Pence is like winning a debate against a bucket of soggy cardboard?
00:25:16.540Well, that debate famously, the fly won that debate because the fly landed on Mike Pence, and that's all anyone ever remembers about the entire thing.
00:25:24.800I think it's the only thing worth remembering.
00:25:28.760How do you think she would fare against someone like J.D. Vance in the debate?
00:25:35.580Well, I think she would do quite well.
00:25:37.920And, you know, J.D. Vance is thoughtful and intellectual and can really make it back and forth.
00:25:43.580But Kamala has the political experience of launching attacks and landing them.
00:25:48.880We saw her do it so many times when she was in the Senate, these kind of self-serving moments on Capitol Hill during these Senate hearings, really tormenting Trump officials on the stand.
00:26:01.960Her experience as a prosecutor really, really makes her effective in this.
00:26:05.300So I do think that she would perform well in a debate against Vance, and certainly she could torment Donald Trump even, you know, because Donald Trump, you know, doesn't tend to really charge, you know, unless he goes hard charging, even Donald Trump can be kind of rattled on the debate stage.
00:26:26.160And I think that Kamala Harris would do fairly well in both instances.
00:26:30.580Well, we'll be watching as events unfold.
00:26:36.400I think there's going to be a lot of movement, possibly tomorrow, Saturday, certainly over the weekend, on behalf of the Democratic side.
00:26:43.400By Monday, I think we'll have a lot clearer view on how they're going to approach November.
00:26:48.500Charlie Spearing, thanks for coming on the show.
00:26:49.960Where can folks go, for example, to get your amateur hour book on Kamala and your go-to source at the Daily Mail as well?
00:26:58.520How can people stay up with your analysis?
00:27:02.520Yeah, follow me on X, at Charlie Spearing, on Truth Social, at Charlie Spearing.
00:27:08.440And, yeah, do check out the book, Amateur Hour, Kamala Harris in the White House.
00:27:13.320It's available in bookstores now and certainly on Amazon and other places you can find books.
00:27:18.040I think you'll probably need to do a second edition now if she gets the nomination and get a second wind behind the book.
00:27:29.220It's great. I've read portions of it. It's absolutely fantastic.
00:27:32.060And I would definitely recommend it to the warring posse.
00:27:35.160Charlie, thanks very much for coming on the show. It's been great catching up with you.
00:27:40.640Well, stand by for the break. Afterwards, we'll be up with Congressman Bob Goode, Chairman of the House Freedom Caucus and very much a favourite here on the warring.
00:27:52.780Stand by and we'll be back after the break.
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00:31:41.020The American people are suffering under Joe Biden, and that's the greatest case for President Trump.
00:31:46.820Can I ask you about the assassination attempt?
00:31:49.300You've obviously been studying it as closely as anyone else.
00:31:52.800From what is currently known and confirmed, do you have any questions?
00:31:58.300I mean, do you have any suspicions that there was about this?
00:32:02.620Do you think the shooter was a lone wolf, or do you think there are so many lapses that it can't simply be incompetence and that there's perhaps other agents working in the background?
00:32:16.200Well, we've all got more questions than we do answers at this point, and that's part of the problem.
00:32:21.400And while we're all grateful as we mourn the loss of life of the heroic firefighter who was lost, who's trying to save his own family, and we pray for those who were victimized, those who were wounded, along with President Trump.
00:32:33.320And we're thankful that today we're having a very different conversation that we might have for just a quarter of an inch difference in the shot.
00:32:40.800We're thankful that President Trump is with us.
00:32:42.560We're reminded of the frailty, the brevity of life, the preciousness of life.
00:32:46.620And yet we have very few in the way of answers that we're confident in from this secret service.
00:32:51.500We know that the director lied immediately, lied initially in saying that the local police were responsible for the outer perimeter.
00:32:58.720And, of course, that's been debunked by the Butler police.
00:33:02.080And, of course, she gave this silly argument that the slope of the roof prevented it from being secured by Secret Service, which is ridiculous, obviously.
00:33:10.520But what we do know is it was an abysmal failure, and we have very little confidence in this diversity hire.
00:33:17.340That's what the Biden administration does, from Kamala Harris through Director Cheadle, a diversity hire who is focused on the diversity or the DEI policies of her agency to the cost of the effectiveness, obviously, of the agency.
00:33:31.600And so we're going to hold her accountable.
00:33:33.200She ought to resign, but irrespective of her employment status, she needs to be held accountable for this massive failure that has placed America in a much less safe, much less secure position because of the failure of her agency and her department.
00:33:48.560But do you think there was anyone else beyond the shooter that was involved in this?
00:33:56.520But, as you know, we've got the reports of a threat from Iran, which should have heightened security, not diminished security.
00:34:03.280I do have to say, while I have no confidence in the Biden administration or this Director Cheadle, and, again, they've got to answer a lot of questions, and the Speaker and others, our chairman of our committees, are right to subpoena them and hold them accountable.
00:34:15.200I do have to say, it's hard to imagine that the conspiracy folks who might be out there would put their faith and trust in this 20-year-old, untrained, seemingly not particularly competent individual.
00:34:28.860And yet, and yet, he was able to pierce the security measures of the Secret Service.
00:34:35.380I mean, he was, the reports are, of course, he was acting suspiciously around the magnetometers, that he was, you know, put a ladder up to the building, he was carrying a backpack, later he's seen with a firearm, with a rifle, and yet there was seemingly nothing really done to prevent the threat until after the shots had already been fired and then he was eliminated.
00:34:54.240So, but it is hard to imagine that they wouldn't work with someone a little more professional, this young man, for those who would have nefarious or malfeasance intended for the United States and for the former president, President Trump, our next president.
00:35:07.900Well, let's break that down, because talking about his competence, that was, I've seen reports, the Daily Telegraph, for example, that broke his down basically millisecond per millisecond.
00:35:21.600That guy, Crooks, Thomas Crooks, he had his shot up until about 400th of a second before the bullet sliced President Trump's ear.
00:35:33.760That shot was a clean shot and would have hit the back of President Trump's skull.
00:35:41.020President Trump, basically, at the last moment, and we've all seen the footage, the breakdowns of this, and he turned to indicate a chart and the bullet therefore sliced.
00:35:53.880It was 400th of a second difference, which would have changed human history for that fraction of a second.
00:36:02.560That guy was not, that he had a clear, when he lined up, when his brain, this is the Daily Telegraph, it's London's Daily Telegraph, serious broadsheet newspaper.
00:36:12.800When it did its account on this, it basically did it, as I say, millisecond by millisecond, and said that when, in terms of human action, when the guy's brain, the shooter, the assassin's brain, the guy's brain, sent the signal to the finger to fire,
00:36:28.720that would have been a fatal shot. And, of course, it took a few milliseconds for the bullet, for the gun to operate, for the round to come out, for it to travel the 137 yards to President Trump.
00:36:45.000But basically, when that line was shot up, when he decided to pull the trigger, that was a fatal shot.
00:36:51.520So I don't know how incompetent he was.
00:36:55.180He looks like a geek, like a nerd, in the photos that we've seen on him.
00:37:01.540Perhaps he was, you know, perhaps he'd been doing a little bit more work from, since the time he was famously kicked out of his university rifle club.
00:37:12.520You know, you cited some of the queries that you have.
00:37:15.320And it's so difficult to know, in reading this, especially when you're looking on social media, what are actually true things, and what's just being put out there by trolling agents.
00:37:25.200But the thing that most concerned me, Congressman Good, is that one of the – there are accounts there that one of the counter snipers behind the president had the guy in his sights, asked for permission to shoot.
00:37:40.680Permission was denied because it was not the FBI's policy or the security service's U.S.S. policy to shoot someone who had not yet engaged.
00:37:53.740Now, look, I read the American papers.
00:38:15.580When they say drop, if you don't drop, they will shoot you.
00:38:17.760Now, if that's walking down the street, right, and as I say, zero innocence, zero people standing by, that could possibly be in imminent danger.
00:38:27.920I cannot believe it is the case that an assassin can get it there in commando position, have a rifle pointed at the former and future president's head, and the secret service says, well, you know, he hasn't engaged yet.
00:39:23.160We had our first preliminary hearing yesterday, and the recount has been set for Thursday, August 1, two weeks from yesterday.
00:39:30.960That will allow us to reassess the ballots, to question the ballots that are problematic, and there will be a three-judge panel who will preside over that.
00:39:40.560And so it's going to be a costly endeavor.
00:39:42.300It's going to cost us about $150,000, but we know that we need to do this.
00:39:48.060I believe our race has national implications with respect to holding the House,
00:39:51.980and I believe it has implications on President Trump's ability to win Virginia, and we've got to pursue this.
00:39:58.160We just want to make sure truth is revealed, ultimately, in what was the true voter intent of the 63,000 legal and lawful participants in this race who voted in the primary,
00:40:25.260Again, we had that preliminary hearing yesterday.
00:40:27.380We will have time between now and August 1 to confirm exactly what the three-judge panel is going to let us do,
00:40:32.960but our desire would be to have a paper ballot match, a hand recount, to confirm the true intent of the voters who participated legally and lawfully.
00:40:40.680So the judges still had some discretion over what type of recount might take place?
00:51:44.700Do you think that, and I'll ask you this as I ask Congressman Good this.
00:51:51.060Do you think that this was just simply a lone wolf or do you think there's so much, that's so much that went wrong that it can't simply be incompetence?
00:52:02.580But bad faith has to be, would be a reasonable thing to assume at this point until we know all the facts.
00:52:25.340You know, it's tough to understand how, you know, a rooftop that's 150 yards away can be left unguarded and all that.
00:52:34.520So what I'm focused on, so I'm glad the Congress and the Republicans and the Democrats should be too, wanting to get answers to call them in.
00:52:42.960It's unbelievable to me that Mayorkas is preventing the Secret Service director from coming up.
00:52:49.720But it shows you that the Democrats don't want to discuss the truth or discuss, you know, facts about what happened.
00:52:56.620So I think it's important to get to the bottom of it.