Bannon's War Room - July 19, 2024


Episode 3768： The Regime Change In DC


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Willie Doyle and Peter Bergen discuss the growing number of voices calling for Joe Biden to step aside from the Democratic presidential campaign. They talk about what it means for Biden's chances of winning the nomination and what it could mean for his campaign if he decides to leave the race.

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00:00:00.000 It's a paralysis, and I wonder if that inability to sort of dig out of the crisis mode in terms of donors, in terms of stories, in terms of Democratic officials writing letters.
00:00:13.080 Jamie Raskin has a new letter out today that's searing and eloquent and devastating politically for Joe Biden.
00:00:19.720 Former President Barack Obama reportedly has concerns about President Biden's ability to stay at the top of the ticket.
00:00:26.100 That's what two sources told NBC News. The former president sees Biden's victory as, quote, getting harder, one of the sources said.
00:00:35.440 The Washington Post reports former President Obama has said President Biden needs to seriously consider the viability of his candidacy.
00:00:43.560 You now have Barack Obama having his concerns known, Nancy Pelosi, the head, the top Democrat in the Senate, the top Democrat in the House,
00:00:54.400 the top, President Biden's top fundraiser telling him flat out we just can't raise money.
00:01:00.180 The money, all these sources have dried up.
00:01:02.720 And there is a there is pushback from the Biden campaign and Mika read a statement last hour growing anger at especially the Obama faction that have been pushing,
00:01:15.980 trying to push him out, saying these are the same people that this I'm actually quoting what they said.
00:01:21.620 These are the same people who gave us Donald Trump in 2016 by pushing Joe Biden out the last time.
00:01:26.860 Do they really want to do it again?
00:01:28.200 But reporters are now hearing from senior people inside Joe Biden's world who a week ago maintained that there was no way he was going to step down,
00:01:40.000 who are now saying things like we get it's over.
00:01:43.260 It's a question of when, not whether that is what people who work for Joe Biden and not junior people who work for Joe Biden,
00:01:49.940 senior people, not not at the very senior most levels, not not the first lady, not his not his son, Hunter.
00:01:57.640 But others who are who are seeing the writing on the wall.
00:02:02.200 And and I think that for everybody's sake, whether you are again, whether you're on the side of wanting Biden to stay in or wanting Biden to pull out,
00:02:09.860 I think everyone would really like to, by the end of this weekend, know what the future is.
00:02:17.620 I think that the tide has turned against Joe Biden.
00:02:21.560 And if I had to bet, I think having the entirety of the leadership of his party now telling him, effectively telling him that he needs to step aside,
00:02:30.080 would be very hard to maintain a candidacy in those circumstances.
00:02:35.440 But he might.
00:02:36.200 But either way, the party would be well served at the end of this Republican convention week with not very much time before the Democrat convention.
00:02:45.120 Either way to know by Monday what the answer is.
00:02:49.680 Seem like they're closing in and the lack, the fundraising drying up, these influential Democrats pushing him toward the door.
00:02:56.560 Reigns to be seen if that just perhaps stiffens the president's resolve to stay in or whether his inner circle and the president himself eventually bow to the reality that he can't win.
00:03:05.200 One of the things that the president has cited that he will inform his decision is to whether or not he thinks, if he's shown data, that someone else can beat Donald Trump.
00:03:15.080 And that someone else in particular, his vice president, Kamala Harris and Michael Schmidt, you've been doing a lot of reporting on the vice president.
00:03:21.700 And this delicate dance that she and her team have to conduct right now, where they are publicly fully supportive of President Biden.
00:03:30.360 I know that's been well received in the West Wing.
00:03:32.340 But of course, she and her allies recognize that if the president does step aside, there could be an opportunity here.
00:03:38.040 But as Willie just noted, we don't know what would happen next if suddenly there's a vacancy at the top of the ticket, whether President Biden would say, look, I want you to go to my running mate or whether this is some sort of open, open contest.
00:03:49.600 Yeah, what would that path look like, what, you know, what is the precedent for it and how much time is left on the clock for, you know, to do that?
00:04:01.100 Could you and how would that be done at the convention?
00:04:04.540 What we wrote about yesterday was about how this is behind the scenes been a bit messy.
00:04:11.040 There have been different flare ups where the vice president's staff has been concerned that in the process of trying to prop up the president's, you know, chances of winning that they've denigrated the vice president or that they were going to denigrate the vice president.
00:04:27.780 In one instance, learning that a staffer from the White House Legislative Affairs Office had been talking to a member of Congress and had may have, you know, basically said the vice president doesn't have good enough chances of winning.
00:04:44.000 That's why Biden has to stay in the race.
00:04:45.920 And this made its way all the way to the White House chief of staff, who had to send out warnings to West Wing officials that, look, you know, we need to be very careful in how we discuss the vice president here because of this unusual situation.
00:05:01.420 We need to be able to to advocate for the president without denigrating the vice president, because, you know, the you know, I don't think the White House chief of staff said what I'm about to say, but because the vice president could be the person on the ticket.
00:05:15.220 And that's really hard of, you know, thing to navigate.
00:05:20.140 And they've had to to really confront that in the past three weeks as they've done this dance and as the vice president has probably had the best, you know, three weeks of her time in office where she has really found her footing and been out there as sort of the tip of the spear for the campaign.
00:05:40.780 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:05:45.220 Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on these people.
00:05:51.200 You're just not going to get a free shot.
00:05:52.460 All these networks lying about the people.
00:05:55.440 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:05:57.340 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:05:58.780 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:06:01.460 It's going to happen.
00:06:02.740 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:06:06.140 Mega media.
00:06:07.060 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:06:12.940 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:06:16.680 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:06:23.040 War Room.
00:06:23.900 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:06:26.300 Friday 19th of July, Anno Domini, 2024.
00:06:38.520 Harnwell here in the helm, covering in for Steve Bannon, presently sitting as one of Joe Biden's political prisoners in a federal jail.
00:06:49.980 A lot has changed since I was last on the show.
00:06:52.760 I think I was last on the show Saturday before the assassination attempt.
00:06:57.820 I think when future historians come to write the official narrative of this election campaign,
00:07:05.720 they're going to look at the 13th of July and divide it, basically, the story of this campaign into a before and after.
00:07:14.440 Now, one of the things that was performed, we've been discussing this on the War Room, I think, for the last three, six months.
00:07:23.260 Steve Bannon obviously took the initiative on this, took the leadership position on this, saying that Joe Biden won't be the Democrat nominee.
00:07:32.080 I think before the assassination attempt, the most likely candidate to succeed Joe Biden would not have been Kamala Harris.
00:07:42.300 And I think that because before the assassination attempt, the Democrats still had a fantasy, a daydream that they might be able to win or keep the White House in November.
00:07:54.760 I no longer think that that's possible.
00:07:56.780 And therefore, as of course, the momentum to remove Joe Biden is still there.
00:08:03.360 And I'm going to suggest I'm going to talk to my next guest now.
00:08:06.080 And I think that the priority now for the Democrats is the down ballot campaigns to try to keep to take as many seats in the House and in the Senate as possible.
00:08:16.940 I think they're going to give up on the White House.
00:08:20.840 It's difficult to see now people like Gavin Newsom, who would want to throw away, willingly throw away their only chance at winning for the White House in a campaign that I don't think they think that they're going to win in November.
00:08:34.760 And so casting around, well, you know, if we're not going to run Gavin Newsom, we're not going to run Richemont or what have you, who are we going to put up?
00:08:50.820 And then, of course, I think, you know, well, there's a candidate there that I don't think is particularly popular amongst the Democratic elites.
00:08:58.500 This is Kamala Harris herself. I think now actually this could be her opportunity to stand and she will be for the Democratic Party, something of a sacrificial goat so that they can run a candidate. 1.00
00:09:15.120 She'll lose and then they can start concentrating and building a future around a more substantial figure.
00:09:21.240 Now, Charlie Spearing, you are the Daily Mail senior political correspondent.
00:09:26.240 You like Kamala Harris so much. You even wrote the book on her.
00:09:32.320 Yeah. Good morning to you. Is this now her moment? Is this now the moment of tackling Kamala? 0.65
00:09:39.120 Well, it certainly is. And when I first wrote the book, the introduction, I run through this scene of Biden's advisers really struggling with or like what they're going to do on the day they realize that Biden can't continue.
00:09:51.980 And what I write in the book is a big reason why they did that is because they the reason why they pushed Biden towards reelection, even though they weren't necessarily certain he could make it, was that Kamala Harris was not ready.
00:10:05.760 When Biden decided to run for reelection, Kamala Harris was not ready. She had she had historically low approval ratings. 1.00
00:10:13.600 She had she was bad on the stump. Her first three years were filled with mistakes and cautions and gaffes.
00:10:20.980 So that was a big part of it. And now look at where we are today.
00:10:26.360 You you saw in that Morning Joe clip where the reporter is talking about how Kamala has reasserted herself on the stage.
00:10:33.140 Well, that's very, very convenient for Democrats who's who have been, you know, ripping on her for years behind the scenes. 0.72
00:10:41.440 Now they suddenly want to lift her up and put her on a pedestal and give her another chance at a reboot. 1.00
00:10:45.980 And I really think that's where we're headed in going forward as Biden steps down.
00:10:50.420 I think that the major media outlets are going to give Kamala Harris a chance to reboot her image, even though she's been trying to do it repeatedly throughout her entire vice presidency. 0.99
00:10:59.080 But do you accept my thesis that now this actually could be her opportunity?
00:11:05.880 It seems to me that the momentum is so especially after this convention in Milwaukee, it seems to me that the momentum is so clearly behind Donald Trump now.
00:11:15.420 You have I mean, the Democrats have sort of pseudo substantial candidates that they might want to save for an opportunity, you know, perhaps against J.D. in 2028, that they might want to hold back.
00:11:27.500 They might not want to burn on an election campaign that is looking ever more difficult for them.
00:11:34.100 For example, the Economist today had this poll up where they where they put Donald Trump already now at plus three in the polls against Biden.
00:11:45.580 In fact, really, I think it's going back. He hasn't. Biden hasn't been ahead against Trump since February.
00:11:54.740 Excuse me. Since February, the momentum has only ever been increasing towards Trump.
00:11:59.460 And it hasn't been since September of last year that Biden's actually been ahead.
00:12:03.240 But what do you think to this thesis that now could actually be her moment for the Democrats to dump a candidate at the top of the list, like a spare that's not popular, is seen to be even by Democrats as widely incompetent.
00:12:21.800 This could be the moment just to throw her out there as a sacrament of a lamb. 0.54
00:12:26.600 Yeah, I think you're right. And that's absolutely what they're going to do, because for two reasons.
00:12:34.700 One, they cannot just leapfrog over Kamala Harris or push her aside without angering a significant portion of their base that they for that's the very reason they chose her in the first place to pick a candidate who could inspire a huge chunk of their base.
00:12:48.380 And so if they try to push her aside now, that would only anger their base.
00:12:52.440 And a lot of Kamala allies are behind the scenes warning the Biden team.
00:12:57.080 Hey, if you if you step down, Mr. President, you better back Kamala because she's had your back. 0.92
00:13:03.600 You know, there's a little bit of mixed history on that.
00:13:06.600 But at least she's right now, you know, has done everything she can to have Biden's back as he insists that he's going to stay in.
00:13:13.960 There's been no backstabbing yet, at least not that we know of.
00:13:17.620 There may be some some stuff behind the scenes.
00:13:19.720 But currently, Kamala Harris is doing everything she can to prove to to prove to voters and prove to donors that she has that she will be a good soldier. 0.54
00:13:30.040 What's also interesting is that she is going to continue this way until they tell her that she can't.
00:13:36.840 The moment she finds out they're trying to push her out, watch out that that could get very ugly.
00:13:41.340 So, yeah, obviously, you know, I don't think she would have a serious I don't know if I if I buy the line that the Democrats would sort of sort of constrained and obliged to run her in November.
00:13:57.240 I think there would have been enough forces within Democratic leadership to push for an open convention simply because it's so important that for the down ballot.
00:14:07.620 We'll talk about this after the break, if I may, to talk about the down ballot push now, which is all important for the Democrats,
00:14:14.500 because if they if they're now waking up to the reality that they are going to lose on November the 5th,
00:14:19.280 it's absolutely imperative of them to to to try and take as many seats as they can in Congress, in the House and in the Senate.
00:14:31.360 But, Charlie, just just tell me quickly, I mean, do you just say yes or no in 10 seconds?
00:14:39.660 Do you think Kamala would have had the gravitas to face down the rest of the big wigs in the party if Biden had pushed for an open convention?
00:14:51.080 Probably you're saying that if the big wigs push for an open convention. 0.71
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00:16:12.300 Democratic Party that are trying to push or shove, I think, are doing a disservice to all of the work that has been done in the last three and a half years by the Biden-Harris administration.
00:16:26.380 So, again, I'm not saying he should move out.
00:16:29.500 I'm not pushing for him to step aside.
00:16:32.640 I'm pushing for us to have a very unemotional, clear perspective on how we salvage the progress that has been made in the last three and a half years and move forward.
00:16:43.140 Because we have real danger, which was demonstrated last night by Donald Trump.
00:16:47.780 We have real danger to all of those achievements.
00:16:50.180 Back here in Steve Bannon's war room with Charlie Spearing, senior political reporter for the Daily Mail.
00:16:58.760 Charlie, just before the break, I was trying to, I mean, you studied her, you've written about her, you've written a book about her, Amateur Hour.
00:17:06.420 You have, you've weighed her personality, her abilities or lack thereof.
00:17:11.460 Do you think, what is the next step now?
00:17:15.440 Because I think it's clear, you know, we saw this in the cold open at the beginning of the show.
00:17:19.860 It's absolutely clear that the Democratic machinery is performing what I called, I think, last week on my getter feed, the discard.
00:17:27.840 They are discarding the president, the current illegitimate president of the United States.
00:17:34.500 They are discarding him now in full open sight.
00:17:38.520 And we see this, you know, the leaks, the soundings from Pelosi, from Adam Schiff, from Barack Obama.
00:17:45.820 It's clear at this level now when these soundings are coming out and these sort of counsels to Biden,
00:17:51.740 it's clear that Biden's previous line, that as long as he gave it his best shot, isn't good enough for the Democrats,
00:18:01.540 who will definitely want to be taking the speaker's gavel in the House of Representatives. 0.62
00:18:08.660 Do you think, having studied Kamala Harris, that she has the gravitas to face down people like Joe Biden
00:18:17.420 as this decision is being made over this weekend, in case Biden wanted to go to an open convention,
00:18:23.100 do you think she has the gravitas within the party, the natural personal authority to talk Biden out of it
00:18:31.580 and just simply to anoint her, or even potentially to give way as president before November,
00:18:38.980 so she can actually run in the election as president of the United States itself? 0.99
00:18:43.260 Does she have this kind of gravitas? 1.00
00:18:44.640 That's with people like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and the other bigwigs in the party, Barack Obama,
00:18:50.940 Jill Biden, everyone who has a voice on this.
00:18:55.700 Do you think she has the stature with these people to browbeat them into line?
00:19:01.940 Yeah, certainly with Joe Biden, she's earned a lot of capital with Joe Biden, right?
00:19:06.280 She helped him win the election.
00:19:07.920 She's been, you know, relatively more or less behind him as he goes forward into re-election.
00:19:13.420 So in many ways, Biden owes her.
00:19:16.260 The other, the one that's interesting is Nancy Pelosi.
00:19:19.880 Nancy Pelosi is not a Kamala fan.
00:19:21.920 She never fully endorsed Kamala to be on the ticket.
00:19:25.520 And so Pelosi perhaps does not respect Kamala's claim to the throne, as it were.
00:19:31.380 But I think that there's two reasons why they would want to avoid a messy, a messy sort of convention selection process.
00:19:40.320 It would be very difficult to have that.
00:19:43.080 But even if Kamala didn't want that, she could probably pull off a win because she has the name ID, the national name ID. 1.00
00:19:52.700 And more voters are familiar with her than sort of your other candidates.
00:19:57.080 Maybe your Josh Shapiro's or your Gavin Newsom's or your Gretchen Whitmer's.
00:20:02.420 So that's her one advantage, however.
00:20:06.600 You know, and maybe she would rather prefer that because she could actually earn it rather than just being anointed. 1.00
00:20:11.240 But as we were saying before the break, at this point, if it's looking so unlikely for the Democrats to win the White House, to keep the White House on November the 5th,
00:20:23.240 an expendable candidate that has no real future at the top of the ticket in any other context,
00:20:33.340 Carmel House would be the perfect solution for them now.
00:20:36.680 They play that card now, get it out of the way, and then move on to someone more substantial, for example, from the shortlist that you're just running through in 2028.
00:20:49.060 That's great.
00:20:49.700 I mean, it's really like what what Democrat with a few with a bright political future wants to step into this mess and try to take out Trump in just a couple of months.
00:21:00.780 That's a very high task to ask.
00:21:02.840 And I don't think that necessarily a Gretchen Whitmer or Gavin Newsom or a Josh Shapiro or any other of these like these like budding political Democrat stars.
00:21:12.900 I don't know if they want to risk their political future in this messy race with when Donald Trump is already stomping all over Democrats across the country.
00:21:22.300 Yeah.
00:21:22.820 From the point of view of the American public, you know, I didn't mean to be cynical when I say this, but Kamala Harris, the vice president of the United States, is effectively a DEI hire.
00:21:36.780 She was appointed for specific criteria that Biden had announced that she's a woman. 1.00
00:21:43.500 She's black. 0.97
00:21:44.500 And that's where he said he was going to appoint as his as his running mate.
00:21:48.140 And that's why he picked her.
00:21:50.180 It was he she wasn't picked on on the account of her abilities.
00:21:52.820 I think a legitimate question when we saw when we see again and again and again the footage of this assassination attempt and you see this undertrained FBI agent unable flapping and floundering around, unable even to holster her gun properly.
00:22:10.460 And you're thinking, you know, OK, so look, this thing about the political correctness, the wokeness across, you know, in the armed forces, in the security sort of security agencies, these these things actually have visible knock on consequences.
00:22:30.820 I think Americans, it would be legitimate to say, do we even want to see this now is probably a question for a later point once we know who the Democratic nominee will be.
00:22:41.020 But I think it's a legitimate question.
00:22:42.440 Say, do we want to see this kind of underperforming incompetence now at the top of the at the top of the tickets, potentially with the football, with the hands on the nuclear code?
00:22:56.800 Perhaps it's probably a moment to take a step back.
00:22:59.660 This is why I don't think Kamala was necessarily the shohin she believed she was up until a week ago. 0.96
00:23:06.680 But it's absolutely clear, I think, and I'd like to ask your opinion on this.
00:23:10.640 It's absolutely clear after the chaos and incompetence surrounding the assassination attempt against Donald Trump last Saturday.
00:23:20.940 Perhaps the wokery has gone too far.
00:23:23.080 The appointment of people to tick boxes has gone too far in America, of all countries, needs to return back to something elemental in its DNA, which is the promotion of people because of their merit.
00:23:38.060 Yeah, and I think you're going to see the American media giving Kamala Harris a chance to prove herself on merit, even though everything she's done so far has been kind of lacking.
00:23:52.080 I think right now Kamala is the best thing going for Kamala is that she can walk down a flight of stairs and deliver a speech. 1.00
00:23:59.940 And, wow, she could actually compete in a debate.
00:24:04.060 You know, Kamala Harris, actually, you know, despite of all the word salads and the moments of missteps and the bad moments in the first three years, she was a candidate because she's actually a pretty good debater. 0.99
00:24:15.700 She debated Mike Pence quite well during their debate, and she also was the one that took shots at Joe Biden and landed effective blows during the primary. 0.83
00:24:25.860 Now, it didn't help her necessarily in the polls, but I do think that if she can show up and deliver a good speech, she can show up and deliver a good debate performance. 0.96
00:24:35.040 I think she could definitely debate better than Joe Biden did in the presidential debate, and she's thirsty for that.
00:24:42.780 She wants to debate Donald Trump and has been wanting to do that her entire career.
00:24:47.120 So I do think that a couple of effective speeches, a couple effective debate performances, she could very well earn the love and respect of the Democratic Party, as crazy as it seems.
00:24:58.460 I think when you compare it to Biden, I think that the Democrats will be slightly more inclined to back her at this point.
00:25:05.740 You don't think, on the other hand, that winning a debate against Mike Pence is like winning a debate against a bucket of soggy cardboard?
00:25:16.540 Well, that debate famously, the fly won that debate because the fly landed on Mike Pence, and that's all anyone ever remembers about the entire thing.
00:25:24.800 I think it's the only thing worth remembering.
00:25:28.760 How do you think she would fare against someone like J.D. Vance in the debate?
00:25:35.580 Well, I think she would do quite well.
00:25:37.920 And, you know, J.D. Vance is thoughtful and intellectual and can really make it back and forth.
00:25:43.580 But Kamala has the political experience of launching attacks and landing them.
00:25:48.880 We saw her do it so many times when she was in the Senate, these kind of self-serving moments on Capitol Hill during these Senate hearings, really tormenting Trump officials on the stand. 0.98
00:26:01.960 Her experience as a prosecutor really, really makes her effective in this. 0.76
00:26:05.300 So I do think that she would perform well in a debate against Vance, and certainly she could torment Donald Trump even, you know, because Donald Trump, you know, doesn't tend to really charge, you know, unless he goes hard charging, even Donald Trump can be kind of rattled on the debate stage.
00:26:26.160 And I think that Kamala Harris would do fairly well in both instances. 1.00
00:26:30.580 Well, we'll be watching as events unfold.
00:26:36.400 I think there's going to be a lot of movement, possibly tomorrow, Saturday, certainly over the weekend, on behalf of the Democratic side.
00:26:43.400 By Monday, I think we'll have a lot clearer view on how they're going to approach November.
00:26:48.500 Charlie Spearing, thanks for coming on the show.
00:26:49.960 Where can folks go, for example, to get your amateur hour book on Kamala and your go-to source at the Daily Mail as well?
00:26:58.520 How can people stay up with your analysis?
00:27:02.520 Yeah, follow me on X, at Charlie Spearing, on Truth Social, at Charlie Spearing.
00:27:08.440 And, yeah, do check out the book, Amateur Hour, Kamala Harris in the White House.
00:27:13.320 It's available in bookstores now and certainly on Amazon and other places you can find books.
00:27:18.040 I think you'll probably need to do a second edition now if she gets the nomination and get a second wind behind the book.
00:27:29.220 It's great. I've read portions of it. It's absolutely fantastic.
00:27:32.060 And I would definitely recommend it to the warring posse.
00:27:35.160 Charlie, thanks very much for coming on the show. It's been great catching up with you.
00:27:38.600 Thanks, Charlie.
00:27:40.640 Well, stand by for the break. Afterwards, we'll be up with Congressman Bob Goode, Chairman of the House Freedom Caucus and very much a favourite here on the warring.
00:27:52.780 Stand by and we'll be back after the break.
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00:29:37.500 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:29:44.200 Welcome back to The War Room.
00:29:49.120 We're here with Congressman Bob Good, Chairman of the House Freedom Caucus.
00:29:52.900 Congressman Good, good morning to you.
00:29:54.320 Thanks for coming back on the show.
00:29:57.440 Thinking about the events over recent days, the assassination attempt against Donald Trump,
00:30:02.160 and then, of course, the Republican Convention in Milwaukee,
00:30:05.140 The thought that strikes me is that not even since Reagan have we seen now a nominee
00:30:11.380 who is so independent of any lobby, of the military-industrial complex, of the donors, of Fox News.
00:30:22.380 I don't think we've ever seen before in the modern era a nominee that is so in command of the party
00:30:30.360 and of popular support behind the party as opposed to any interest group.
00:30:36.680 And for a lot of the things that you've been working on as chairman of the House Freedom Caucus,
00:30:41.240 this is a good thing, right, that we have someone here who's so sympathetic, for example, to your views,
00:30:49.900 and now might actually have a chance to try and implement them in his next mandate.
00:30:56.080 Well, clearly all you have to do is look at that the country is far worse off under Joe Biden.
00:31:01.220 Everyone is suffering under Joe Biden's policies.
00:31:03.580 Everyone was far better off under the four years of President Trump.
00:31:07.280 And the great advantage that President Trump has is his record compared to Joe Biden,
00:31:11.100 the things that he accomplished.
00:31:12.940 Only the illegal aliens are better under Joe Biden.
00:31:15.980 We were more secure under President Trump.
00:31:18.020 We were stronger on the national stage.
00:31:19.540 We had a secure border.
00:31:20.580 We were safer.
00:31:21.660 Certainly we were more prosperous with almost no inflation whatsoever.
00:31:27.180 Now we've suffered through some 30 percent inflation over the last four years with Joe Biden.
00:31:31.560 We've got, as we mentioned, the open borders.
00:31:33.320 We've got the diminishment of our energy production.
00:31:35.700 We're paying higher gas prices, utility prices, grocery prices, housing prices.
00:31:41.020 The American people are suffering under Joe Biden, and that's the greatest case for President Trump.
00:31:46.820 Can I ask you about the assassination attempt?
00:31:49.300 You've obviously been studying it as closely as anyone else.
00:31:52.800 From what is currently known and confirmed, do you have any questions?
00:31:58.300 I mean, do you have any suspicions that there was about this?
00:32:02.620 Do you think the shooter was a lone wolf, or do you think there are so many lapses that it can't simply be incompetence and that there's perhaps other agents working in the background?
00:32:16.200 Well, we've all got more questions than we do answers at this point, and that's part of the problem.
00:32:21.400 And while we're all grateful as we mourn the loss of life of the heroic firefighter who was lost, who's trying to save his own family, and we pray for those who were victimized, those who were wounded, along with President Trump.
00:32:33.320 And we're thankful that today we're having a very different conversation that we might have for just a quarter of an inch difference in the shot.
00:32:40.800 We're thankful that President Trump is with us.
00:32:42.560 We're reminded of the frailty, the brevity of life, the preciousness of life.
00:32:46.620 And yet we have very few in the way of answers that we're confident in from this secret service.
00:32:51.500 We know that the director lied immediately, lied initially in saying that the local police were responsible for the outer perimeter.
00:32:58.720 And, of course, that's been debunked by the Butler police.
00:33:02.080 And, of course, she gave this silly argument that the slope of the roof prevented it from being secured by Secret Service, which is ridiculous, obviously.
00:33:10.520 But what we do know is it was an abysmal failure, and we have very little confidence in this diversity hire. 1.00
00:33:17.340 That's what the Biden administration does, from Kamala Harris through Director Cheadle, a diversity hire who is focused on the diversity or the DEI policies of her agency to the cost of the effectiveness, obviously, of the agency. 0.64
00:33:31.600 And so we're going to hold her accountable.
00:33:33.200 She ought to resign, but irrespective of her employment status, she needs to be held accountable for this massive failure that has placed America in a much less safe, much less secure position because of the failure of her agency and her department.
00:33:48.560 But do you think there was anyone else beyond the shooter that was involved in this?
00:33:55.540 Well, I don't know.
00:33:56.520 But, as you know, we've got the reports of a threat from Iran, which should have heightened security, not diminished security.
00:34:03.280 I do have to say, while I have no confidence in the Biden administration or this Director Cheadle, and, again, they've got to answer a lot of questions, and the Speaker and others, our chairman of our committees, are right to subpoena them and hold them accountable.
00:34:15.200 I do have to say, it's hard to imagine that the conspiracy folks who might be out there would put their faith and trust in this 20-year-old, untrained, seemingly not particularly competent individual.
00:34:28.860 And yet, and yet, he was able to pierce the security measures of the Secret Service.
00:34:35.380 I mean, he was, the reports are, of course, he was acting suspiciously around the magnetometers, that he was, you know, put a ladder up to the building, he was carrying a backpack, later he's seen with a firearm, with a rifle, and yet there was seemingly nothing really done to prevent the threat until after the shots had already been fired and then he was eliminated.
00:34:54.240 So, but it is hard to imagine that they wouldn't work with someone a little more professional, this young man, for those who would have nefarious or malfeasance intended for the United States and for the former president, President Trump, our next president.
00:35:07.900 Well, let's break that down, because talking about his competence, that was, I've seen reports, the Daily Telegraph, for example, that broke his down basically millisecond per millisecond.
00:35:21.600 That guy, Crooks, Thomas Crooks, he had his shot up until about 400th of a second before the bullet sliced President Trump's ear.
00:35:33.760 That shot was a clean shot and would have hit the back of President Trump's skull.
00:35:39.780 It would have been a fatal shot.
00:35:41.020 President Trump, basically, at the last moment, and we've all seen the footage, the breakdowns of this, and he turned to indicate a chart and the bullet therefore sliced.
00:35:53.880 It was 400th of a second difference, which would have changed human history for that fraction of a second.
00:36:02.560 That guy was not, that he had a clear, when he lined up, when his brain, this is the Daily Telegraph, it's London's Daily Telegraph, serious broadsheet newspaper.
00:36:12.800 When it did its account on this, it basically did it, as I say, millisecond by millisecond, and said that when, in terms of human action, when the guy's brain, the shooter, the assassin's brain, the guy's brain, sent the signal to the finger to fire,
00:36:28.720 that would have been a fatal shot. And, of course, it took a few milliseconds for the bullet, for the gun to operate, for the round to come out, for it to travel the 137 yards to President Trump.
00:36:45.000 But basically, when that line was shot up, when he decided to pull the trigger, that was a fatal shot.
00:36:49.980 Trump moved at the last second.
00:36:51.520 So I don't know how incompetent he was.
00:36:55.180 He looks like a geek, like a nerd, in the photos that we've seen on him.
00:37:01.540 Perhaps he was, you know, perhaps he'd been doing a little bit more work from, since the time he was famously kicked out of his university rifle club.
00:37:10.860 There's too much there.
00:37:12.520 You know, you cited some of the queries that you have.
00:37:15.320 And it's so difficult to know, in reading this, especially when you're looking on social media, what are actually true things, and what's just being put out there by trolling agents.
00:37:25.200 But the thing that most concerned me, Congressman Good, is that one of the – there are accounts there that one of the counter snipers behind the president had the guy in his sights, asked for permission to shoot.
00:37:40.680 Permission was denied because it was not the FBI's policy or the security service's U.S.S. policy to shoot someone who had not yet engaged.
00:37:53.740 Now, look, I read the American papers.
00:37:56.640 I look – follow the American news.
00:37:58.560 That is absolute – you know, I can't believe that is true.
00:38:02.040 I have seen footage on YouTube of people being shot dead by the police because they had a knife in their hand that they refused to drop.
00:38:09.640 And there are no hostages, no potential hostages around.
00:38:13.520 The police just shoot them dead.
00:38:15.580 When they say drop, if you don't drop, they will shoot you.
00:38:17.760 Now, if that's walking down the street, right, and as I say, zero innocence, zero people standing by, that could possibly be in imminent danger.
00:38:27.920 I cannot believe it is the case that an assassin can get it there in commando position, have a rifle pointed at the former and future president's head, and the secret service says, well, you know, he hasn't engaged yet.
00:38:40.520 We're not going to shoot.
00:38:42.480 That just seems – if that is absolutely true, then I think it's clear that the conspiracy theories are true.
00:38:52.320 That simply those two – you put these factors side by side, and I think it becomes apparent that there's more going on here.
00:38:59.220 I personally think there is more going on here than it just being a lone wolf.
00:39:04.680 But I did want to hear your point of view.
00:39:07.600 Congressman, could you just give us a quick update whilst you're here on the show?
00:39:10.660 We've got a few minutes.
00:39:11.700 What's going on in the 5th District of Virginia with your, I hope, successful calls for a recount?
00:39:20.240 What's the latest news on that?
00:39:21.900 Well, thank you for asking.
00:39:23.160 We had our first preliminary hearing yesterday, and the recount has been set for Thursday, August 1, two weeks from yesterday.
00:39:30.960 That will allow us to reassess the ballots, to question the ballots that are problematic, and there will be a three-judge panel who will preside over that.
00:39:40.560 And so it's going to be a costly endeavor.
00:39:42.300 It's going to cost us about $150,000, but we know that we need to do this.
00:39:46.160 We need to proceed with this.
00:39:48.060 I believe our race has national implications with respect to holding the House,
00:39:51.980 and I believe it has implications on President Trump's ability to win Virginia, and we've got to pursue this.
00:39:58.160 We just want to make sure truth is revealed, ultimately, in what was the true voter intent of the 63,000 legal and lawful participants in this race who voted in the primary,
00:40:08.520 and so we'll do that on August 1.
00:40:11.380 The 1st of August.
00:40:12.940 And this is basically a full ballot recount.
00:40:15.120 Every single individual ballot will be counted and tallied against the computer record.
00:40:21.560 Is that right?
00:40:22.300 How does it work?
00:40:23.760 That's my understanding.
00:40:25.260 Again, we had that preliminary hearing yesterday.
00:40:27.380 We will have time between now and August 1 to confirm exactly what the three-judge panel is going to let us do,
00:40:32.960 but our desire would be to have a paper ballot match, a hand recount, to confirm the true intent of the voters who participated legally and lawfully.
00:40:40.680 So the judges still had some discretion over what type of recount might take place?
00:40:47.720 That is true.
00:40:48.900 What the law does provide is that we can have a recount because we're at a 0.6 percent margin.
00:40:53.760 That falls within the margin, which entitles us to have a recount, but the judges, like almost all court proceedings,
00:41:00.500 do have some latitude there on what they're able to permit or what discretion they can apply.
00:41:06.120 And so, again, we're going to be pushing for the most robust, vigorous, exhaustive recount that we can possibly achieve.
00:41:13.080 You mentioned that threshold.
00:41:14.580 It's 1 percent, isn't it?
00:41:16.700 It's 0.6 percent.
00:41:18.620 Yeah.
00:41:18.820 If it's less than 1 percent, you can have one, but we're at 0.6.
00:41:21.860 Okay, that's tiny.
00:41:25.140 And does the amount of fundraising – I'll ask you in a moment for your details, for your campaign's details,
00:41:31.820 if folks want to consider supporting, which I strongly recommend – but in a moment.
00:41:38.300 But does the amount of fundraising you're seeking to do depend on what type of recount you get to have?
00:41:45.360 Will this recount on the 1st of August be definitive?
00:41:48.140 Well, the more robust the recount is, the broader that they allow us to be in terms of examining the ballots by hand,
00:41:56.980 and then the more expensive that it will be.
00:41:59.620 So we're hopeful that, frankly, it's going to be an expensive recount because that's better for us.
00:42:05.280 So I think you said $150,000, right?
00:42:09.040 That's the estimate at this point, yes.
00:42:10.600 And that would be able to finance the full ballot by ballot hand recount, would it?
00:42:19.380 Well, that's the amount that it's going to cost.
00:42:21.480 The state's going to charge us nearly $100,000 to do the recount,
00:42:24.620 and then the attorney fees that we're going to have to pay,
00:42:27.420 the estimate we've been given to prepare for it's about $150,000 total at this point.
00:42:31.140 And when the judges decide on which kind of recount they're going to allow,
00:42:38.280 is it done on a state-by-state basis according to precedent?
00:42:42.960 How do they determine this?
00:42:45.380 Well, it's within Virginia law, so state law does apply.
00:42:48.800 And then, again, the discretion of the judges on where we'll be making our case on what we think is questionable,
00:42:54.480 where we think there might be errors and mistakes,
00:42:56.360 things that we think are suspicious that we want to take a closer look at,
00:42:59.660 and we'll see what the judges allow us to do.
00:43:03.060 Okay.
00:43:04.520 And so the result was confirmed yesterday that there'd be a recount.
00:43:08.660 The recount itself will be on the 1st of August.
00:43:11.280 And between now and the 1st of August,
00:43:13.360 these three judges will decide what type of recount there's actually going to be.
00:43:17.200 Is that right?
00:43:18.480 Yes, we'll be making our case and presenting the evidence that we have
00:43:21.480 and the concerns that we have,
00:43:22.660 and we'll see what the judges, again, allow us to do on August 1.
00:43:26.920 Okay, Congressman, would you stand by just for a couple of moments,
00:43:29.280 and we'll come back after the break and finish this off.
00:43:31.780 Thank you.
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00:45:14.920 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:45:22.660 Welcome back to The War Room here with Congressman Bob Good.
00:45:26.260 I've said it before on the show.
00:45:27.460 I'll say again, I would like to see Donald Trump produce an executive order
00:45:31.780 renominating you, renaming you from Congressman Good to Congressman.
00:45:37.160 Fantastic.
00:45:37.680 I hope we'll see something like that.
00:45:40.540 So between now and the 1st of August, there are a lot of people here, and I know because
00:45:44.680 I read all my comments on my get-to-feed, a lot of people that really love you and the
00:45:49.400 great work that you've been doing, not only as a congressman, but also as a chairman of
00:45:53.780 the House Freedom Caucus.
00:45:55.460 What can folks do, what can the War Room Posse do beyond donating?
00:46:00.980 And I'll ask now how they might donate to your legal fund for this recap.
00:46:05.460 But what can they do that might help politically, if you will, within the Virginia context to
00:46:12.800 support you in this initiative?
00:46:13.960 Well, they can go to bobgoodforcongress.com and support us financially, as you noted.
00:46:18.600 But the other thing that they can do is to continue to pressure and lobby their state
00:46:22.860 legislators to secure their respective elections.
00:46:26.000 This is a 50-state solution, and the Constitution gives the state legislators the primary
00:46:31.900 responsibility for elections.
00:46:32.960 And we are not secure to the degree that we should be, and our election has demonstrated
00:46:38.160 that processes and procedures are not being followed.
00:46:41.340 We almost operate with the assumption that no one would ever try to do anything nefarious,
00:46:45.400 or no malfeasance would ever be attempted.
00:46:47.660 And we're very vulnerable to that effect.
00:46:49.680 And so we've got a lot of work to do.
00:46:51.780 We've got a lot of work to do between now and November, that effect.
00:46:55.080 But it's responsibilities on each state to do that, and everybody needs to hold their elected
00:46:58.860 officials accountable to that effect.
00:47:01.400 Thank you, Congressman.
00:47:02.340 When are you expecting the next update in this process?
00:47:07.720 Well, I would say we're going to know shortly after August 1.
00:47:11.040 We'll see how long it takes.
00:47:12.200 We're going to attempt to do it in one day, but it's going to take a long time for some
00:47:15.140 of these counties and cities to do it.
00:47:17.000 But we'll have boots on the ground there, observers and challengers and so forth, and
00:47:21.820 we'll see what we can accomplish on August 1.
00:47:24.760 And when will the judges decide which form of recount they're going to consent to?
00:47:29.880 It'll be between now and August 1.
00:47:32.700 I don't know the particulars exactly how to do it.
00:47:34.900 This is my first rodeo on a recount, but we'll be making our case on the things that
00:47:38.920 we want to be examined and looked at.
00:47:40.800 And we've been gathering that over the last four weeks, of course, doing our investigative
00:47:44.840 work to try to make the best case that we can and to challenge as much as we think it
00:47:48.520 deserves to be challenged.
00:47:49.360 OK, got it.
00:47:52.420 So I hope you come back on the show straight away.
00:47:54.600 We're obviously broadcasting right throughout August.
00:47:57.480 Come back on the show, please.
00:47:58.500 The moment you have an update on this and debrief the policy.
00:48:03.540 Congressman Good, thank you very much for coming on the show.
00:48:05.200 Thank you.
00:48:05.380 Great to be with you.
00:48:06.060 Thank you.
00:48:06.940 God bless.
00:48:09.060 Mark Perlitter, good morning to you.
00:48:11.740 Good morning.
00:48:12.300 So we've had a very momentous few days, right, from Butler, Pennsylvania, and then the Republican
00:48:20.660 Convention in Milwaukee.
00:48:24.240 What are your takeaways of the last few days?
00:48:27.040 Do you, I mean, I said at the beginning of the show that I think future historians will
00:48:32.500 look back on this period, specifically Saturday, July the 13th, as one of these defining points
00:48:38.600 that splits the campaign into before and after.
00:48:42.400 Do you agree with that?
00:48:43.280 Do you think the assassination attempt was that fundamental?
00:48:46.460 It throws everything into those two categories.
00:48:51.020 And how do you think that's going to play out now over the next four months?
00:48:55.220 Yes, you know, Saturday was just a life-changing campaign, history-changing event to see President
00:49:07.500 Trump be shot and stand up and want to signal to his supporters to fight on.
00:49:12.320 And he would not be, you know, it was representative, right, of Donald Trump through his entire life,
00:49:17.820 through his presidency, through the assault on him since he's left their presidency, you
00:49:22.780 know, culminating, you know, with this assassination attempt.
00:49:26.560 And the way he handled it, and then last night, you know, his talking about it, Ben, was just
00:49:32.100 epic. 0.78
00:49:33.060 And you're seeing the, you know, I'm always an optimist, and you're seeing the exposure
00:49:39.100 of the Democrat Party, of the media.
00:49:41.560 They are just exposed to the hilt, right?
00:49:44.980 They want to move on from Saturday.
00:49:46.720 They want to now do this coup on their Democrat nominee, who has all, you know, 14 million
00:49:52.520 Democrats have voted for this guy.
00:49:54.380 This is their guy.
00:49:55.360 And now the backroom deals to take Joe Biden out, who was their vessel, you know, to get
00:50:00.640 their progressive policies through.
00:50:03.440 But coming off of this convention, you know, from Saturday, it's just amazing how much has
00:50:09.160 happened in the past several days.
00:50:11.420 But the Republican convention was fantastic, best it's been, and certainly in my lifetime,
00:50:18.240 the most unified the Republican Party has been.
00:50:20.940 You saw President Trump picking J.D. Vance this week, another superb selection.
00:50:27.160 And you see the media and how they turn on people, how they want to distort things, their
00:50:32.920 conspiracies, the Democrats flailing around.
00:50:36.420 So, yes, July 13th will be remembered as a defining moment in our history, the iconic
00:50:43.640 photo of President Trump.
00:50:45.440 And as Tucker pointed out last night, right, President Trump stood up.
00:50:49.100 He settled the crowd.
00:50:50.460 They didn't run.
00:50:51.400 It was amazing.
00:50:53.300 And it was just, yeah, it was just a defining moment that we're all going to remember where
00:50:59.120 we were when we learned this.
00:51:01.540 And then when, you know, with Twitter and X, you know, bringing these images to you, you
00:51:09.020 know, seeing these images of President Trump going down, getting back up, it's just you're
00:51:14.700 going to remember for your lifetime.
00:51:16.780 Mark, the woman possibly will know you from the Center for Renewing America as a cool analytical
00:51:22.960 mind, often breaking down stuff for its developments on the Supreme Court.
00:51:27.660 Let me ask you, let me tap into that cool analytical mind.
00:51:31.540 That you have in the next minute or so before we go up to the break.
00:51:36.120 You've been sitting like this, sort of the assassination attempt, much like I think the rest of the world,
00:51:43.240 certainly the rest of America.
00:51:44.700 Do you think that, and I'll ask you this as I ask Congressman Good this.
00:51:51.060 Do you think that this was just simply a lone wolf or do you think there's so much, that's so much that went wrong that it can't simply be incompetence?
00:52:02.580 But bad faith has to be, would be a reasonable thing to assume at this point until we know all the facts.
00:52:09.140 That is it.
00:52:10.060 Was it this lone shooter, Thomas Crooks, or were there others behind this?
00:52:14.560 Look, the Secret Service did a terrible job on that day.
00:52:21.580 And let's just get the facts.
00:52:23.660 It was so awful.
00:52:25.340 You know, it's tough to understand how, you know, a rooftop that's 150 yards away can be left unguarded and all that.
00:52:34.520 So what I'm focused on, so I'm glad the Congress and the Republicans and the Democrats should be too, wanting to get answers to call them in.
00:52:42.960 It's unbelievable to me that Mayorkas is preventing the Secret Service director from coming up.
00:52:49.720 But it shows you that the Democrats don't want to discuss the truth or discuss, you know, facts about what happened.
00:52:56.620 So I think it's important to get to the bottom of it.
00:52:58.900 But God bless President Trump.
00:53:00.620 It was divine intervention that kept him alive, as the president said, but grace of God last night.
00:53:06.500 And so that's what I'm focused on.
00:53:09.140 Mark Pellett, we're back to break and stand yourself this week.
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