Bannon's War Room - Episode 3771： Mainstream Turns Back On Biden As They Continue To Meltdown Over RNC

00:00:00.000 I don't think there is much more to it.

00:00:02.220 I mean, from what we've seen and what we've heard,

00:00:05.560 it was a bullet shot that grazed his ear

00:00:09.060 and injured his ear.

00:00:11.020 According to the physicians who examined him,

00:00:14.000 there was no other further damage.

00:00:15.720 So I think that with regard to the health

00:00:18.840 related purely to the bullet itself,

00:00:22.320 I think he's in the clear, as far as I can see.

00:00:25.940 I mean, it's dangerous to make diagnoses from a distance.

00:00:29.360 From what I'm seeing, the way he's acting now

00:00:32.320 and what his physicians reports are,

00:00:34.760 it seems to have been a superficial wound to the ear.

00:00:37.420 And that's all. 0.98

00:00:38.480 I mean, Trump is a dog bites man on a grand scale, right? 0.98

00:00:42.060 He's so inured us and immunized us to his craziness 0.98

00:00:45.900 and derangement and dishonesty that we all kind of move on.

00:00:48.540 And Chris, you showed some excellent headlines

00:00:50.760 from kind of state and regional and city papers.

00:00:53.300 The New York Times, the paper of record,

00:00:55.300 their headline on the speech was,

00:00:56.500 after an emotional beginning, Trump veers into familiar partisan attacks.

00:01:01.460 Right.

00:01:01.940 Not only does that underplay the derangement of the speech,

00:01:04.260 as you've just pointed out,

00:01:05.220 but I think the word familiar is very important there.

00:01:07.380 Familiar partisan attacks.

00:01:08.580 Journalists don't like familiar, right?

00:01:10.740 They don't want familiar.

00:01:11.780 They want new and shiny. 0.86

00:01:13.780 And Trump's insanity and bigotry and dishonesty is all very familiar. 0.79

00:01:19.760 So we've just normalized it. 0.96

00:01:21.280 We've normalized the abnormal.

00:01:23.120 We've mainstreamed his extremism.

00:01:25.440 And that is a fundamental problem,

00:01:27.200 because you then end up gaslighting your readers and your viewers

00:01:29.960 by pretending that this speech was somehow normal.

00:01:32.240 I interviewed a member of the Washington Post editorial board earlier today

00:01:34.880 who said, well, when I said it was an insane speech, a crazy speech,

00:01:38.120 he said, well, it was just normal Trump.

00:01:40.880 But that's the problem. 1.00

00:01:41.960 Normal Trump is crazy, is insane. 1.00

00:01:44.420 And we need to keep saying that. 1.00

00:01:46.000 But we don't.

00:01:46.780 And therefore, we, the media, are not doing our job.

00:01:49.660 And yet, with all you just heard,

00:01:52.460 it is Biden who is fighting off calls from within his own party to step down.

00:01:57.580 There are now more than 30 congressional members,

00:01:59.820 more than 10% of the Democratic caucus in the House and Senate,

00:02:03.020 calling for Biden to exit the election.

00:02:05.180 The pressure campaign is reportedly also coming from the highest echelons

00:02:08.940 of the Democratic establishment, including Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi,

00:02:12.540 Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer.

00:02:14.620 And, per some reports, even Biden's former White House partner, President Barack Obama.

00:02:19.900 NBC News has learned that in the midst of all of that pressure campaign,

00:02:23.360 members of Biden's family have discussed what an exit from the race would look like

00:02:26.960 if, if he chooses to give in.

00:02:29.740 And that's still a big if, with Biden's campaign pushing back hard against that possibility.

00:02:34.680 In a new memo, they insist that Biden is in it to win it and will remain at the top of the ticket.

00:02:38.940 Quote, he is the presumptive nominee. There is no plan for an alternative nominee.

00:02:43.660 In a few short weeks, Joe Biden will be the official nominee.

00:02:48.300 Folks, oh, they said it is high past time that we stop fighting each other.

00:02:53.180 The only person who can win when we fight is Donald Trump.

00:02:55.500 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:03:03.300 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:03:08.520 You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:03:12.780 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:03:14.680 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:03:16.120 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:03:17.880 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:03:19.860 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:03:23.480 MAGA Media.

00:03:24.820 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:03:30.260 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:03:34.020 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:03:40.220 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:03:49.860 Good morning. Harnwell here at the helm, Steve Bannon's War Room, 20th of July,

00:03:56.500 Saturday, 20th of July, Anno d'Armini, 2024.

00:04:01.600 So there's lots going on right now.

00:04:02.900 We're going to break down, we saw in the cold open,

00:04:05.320 the meltdown confronting the Democrats right now as they discard their president.

00:04:13.760 And obviously, it's a lot of distraction.

00:04:16.040 They're trying to distract with smokescreens talking about Donald Trump's speech.

00:04:22.800 And obviously, what people are really interested in that is how the present party in power

00:04:28.720 discard its incumbents from me standing again.

00:04:33.400 And that's what we're going to be drilling down here on the war.

00:04:35.900 But first, my guest this morning to open the show, Dr. Bradley Thayer.

00:04:41.000 There's lots going on in China.

00:04:42.400 A lot of people think, I think you're one of them.

00:04:44.120 A lot of people will consider China or specifically the CCP itself to be a mortal enemy of the United States.

00:04:51.760 They've just had, concluded last week, their third plenum to discuss their economy.

00:04:59.600 Dr. Thayer, your first analysis was the fact that this third plenary session was projected for last autumn

00:05:06.920 and they postponed it until now.

00:05:09.380 And you have an interesting insight as to why this is.

00:05:12.880 Could you break that down, please, for us and specifically outline why this is of importance to Americans?

00:05:20.440 Dr. Thayer, good morning.

00:05:22.280 Good morning, Ben.

00:05:23.040 It's wonderful to join you today.

00:05:25.660 Absolutely.

00:05:26.100 So the Chinese Communist Party is, as the name indicates, a Communist Party.

00:05:33.160 And so they rule in that totalitarian fashion.

00:05:38.320 And the party essentially addresses the major issues that it confronts and the direction it wants to move ahead in what are called party congresses.

00:05:48.100 And then in October of 2022, they had the 20th party congress.

00:05:53.780 And then in the wake of those party congresses, there are plenary sessions or plenums that address specific issues that are broken down really by inner party issues.

00:06:05.100 Ideology, for example, which is addressed at the fourth and the sixth plenums typically.

00:06:10.100 And then the third covers economic and social issues and the economic, of course, are critical.

00:06:18.600 The fact that this plenary session, the third plenum, should have been held previously and was not and is only now being held, just concluded, of course, on Thursday, is an indication that they don't know what to do.

00:06:31.700 They face dire, the Chinese Communist Party faces dire economic circumstances, and they're trying to figure out what they need to do to solve their economic problems.

00:06:45.420 The most critical economic problem that they have been is to ensure that U.S. investment and trade continue to flow into the People's Republic of China.

00:06:56.200 They want to sustain that.

00:06:58.280 That's critical for their economic growth.

00:07:00.520 Then within Xi Jinping, how much of China's current panic in its inability to draw up its five-year economic plan, how much of this panic is due to the Trump-China tariffs, which the Biden administration has largely held on to?

00:07:23.600 Well, Ben, that's a very significant question.

00:07:26.680 And Xi Jinping has got his thumb on the scale.

00:07:30.060 He wants Biden or the Democrat candidate if it's not Biden.

00:07:35.640 He does not want Trump to return to office because Trump is going to end the flow of investment and trade.

00:07:46.560 And again, J.D. Vance as vice president was an excellent pick in this regard.

00:07:53.140 So Xi Jinping does not want Trump back in office.

00:07:58.140 He wants the Democrats to continue because the Democrats sustain what Jim Fennell and I call the neo-engagement school, right?

00:08:07.140 That is the idea that investment trade is going to continue to flow into the People's Republic of China, and thereby the Chinese Communist Party is going to stay in power.

00:08:18.380 They're going to be supported, and they're going to be able to work through their economic difficulties potentially because we're funding it in essence.

00:08:27.380 The United States and the West more broadly are funding the Chinese Communist Party.

00:08:32.620 Trump is going to end that.

00:08:34.620 And that's why they don't want him to return to office.

00:08:39.240 But fundamentally, many of their problems also are their own, and that is the result of their misrule.

00:08:45.500 The fact that communist governments, wherever they're in office, of course, are illegitimate and commit, you know, obviously are disastrous when it comes to human rights, social and economic rights, and, of course, economic prosperity.

00:09:04.560 So can I just ask you that?

00:09:07.500 Are you drawing, to go back to something you were saying about 30 seconds ago, are you drawing a direct parallel between the imminent prospect of the return of the Trump administration from January the 20th of next year, and the fact that China is in a panic with regards to its quinquennial economic strategy?

00:09:30.280 They're in a panic, Ben, for two major reasons.

00:09:33.740 One, because they see that Trump does have the possibility of returning to office.

00:09:39.200 We should not underestimate the measures that the Chinese Communist Party is going to take to keep Trump from office in terms of election interference and other means that the many tens of thousands of Chinese individuals who've come into this country may attempt to execute. 0.99

00:10:02.620 But then also they have profound economic problems because of their misrule, right?

00:10:09.180 Because wherever communists show up, the economy is going to be obviously destroyed.

00:10:14.340 So they don't know how to resolve it.

00:10:16.580 And they themselves, in fact, are beginning to admit that they need to bring about major changes.

00:10:23.620 Let me ask you another question.

00:10:26.940 I know your speciality is the CCP and China specifically, but this show has been pretty big on election integrity in the United States following on from the last presidential election.

00:10:42.900 Are you suggesting, when you say that the CCP will do all that it can to stop President Trump from returning to the White House, are you suggesting that the election integrity dynamic is important for that reason, that this is something that Republicans and Trump specifically ought to be engaged on?

00:11:10.040 Now, there are a whole other load of reasons why Republicans and Donald Trump should be interested on election integrity, right?

00:11:17.520 But are you adding specifically here China into the mix in the same way that the Russians were dragged in erroneously, as we now know, but they were dragged in paranoically by the Democrats in the last cycle?

00:11:33.540 Do you think there's a threat that the Chinese might actually intend to do, what the Democrats outright accused the Russians of doing in the last cycle?

00:11:45.760 Absolutely, Ben.

00:11:49.260 Trump represents an existential threat to the Chinese Communist Party, and they do not want him to return to office.

00:11:58.020 And the avenues of election interference include the machines, of course, they include the individuals who've come over the border illegally, and many other avenues that they have, the employment of deep fakes, artificial intelligence.

00:12:13.160 Brian Kennedy has written an exceptional piece on this in American Mind, which I'll have posted, which really illuminates the pathways they can have to interfere in the election.

00:12:26.280 So, Ben, you're exactly right.

00:12:28.500 There are many foreign countries that want to interfere in our election, but the Chinese Communist Party is most determined to do so because they cannot have Trump return to office.

00:12:41.720 Their hope for survival is that Biden or the Democrat candidate is elected and sustains the neo-engagement, the flawed neo-engagement policy, which is their lifeline at a time in economic, when they're in dire economic straits.

00:13:00.440 If Trump's elected, of course, there's the possibility of putting real pressure on the Chinese Communist Party so that ideally they fall from power and the Chinese people are free to make their own decisions about what they want to do, free from the tyranny of the Chinese Communist Party. 0.85

00:13:17.900 So, Ben, there's so much work to be done on machines, of course, on every aspect of election integrity.

00:13:38.060 And so it's a dire situation.

00:13:43.020 And I wish it received more attention than it does in terms of how—

00:13:49.060 We'll do what we can here on the war room to point the spotlight on this.

00:13:55.720 Just coming up to the break, Dr. Thayer, just a quick question for you.

00:13:59.760 You were tying in earlier how these various—I don't know, the plural would be planar sessions, right?

00:14:11.740 The third planum had been postponed since last autumn, and that was specifically—as all these planary sessions are, they're tied into the five-yearly Congress meeting.

00:14:24.460 Were there any other planary sessions that were similarly postponed from last year to this year, or was it only the one tied to developing their five-year economic plan?

00:14:38.260 None significantly.

00:14:40.200 So, Ben, this shows, again, underscores their tremendous vulnerability of their economy.

00:14:46.500 They don't know what to do.

00:14:48.060 They don't know how to get out of the box that they have themselves.

00:14:51.560 Dr. Thayer, hold on.

00:14:54.080 We'll be back in two minutes after the break to discuss Taiwan.

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00:16:18.560 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:16:26.140 Welcome back.

00:16:27.900 Dr. Thayer, there's been a lot of talk about the United States underwriting or U.S. taxpayers underwriting Taiwan's security vis-a-vis China.

00:16:41.160 Obviously, there's a lot of speculation that President Xi himself has been gearing up for many years for an eventual invasion.

00:16:50.800 President Trump has intervened last week, I think, with an interview in Bloomberg when he said that Taiwan doesn't pay the United States anything for the defense that the U.S. provides and that they should do.

00:17:08.920 Could you break down the implications of this?

00:17:12.560 And firstly, before we discuss that, perhaps just say a few words of what it would mean to the United States were Taiwan to cede military, militaristically, if you will, under the CCP authority into the Chinese orbit.

00:17:28.500 Sure, Ben, that's a great question and a very important issue.

00:17:33.860 Taiwan matters for the United States for three big reasons.

00:17:39.700 First, it matters economically.

00:17:42.100 Because Taiwan produces most of the world's chips, our economy and the economy of the West depends on the chips that are made in Taiwan. 0.90

00:17:53.660 So if those facilities, if those factories were destroyed or damaged, the outlook, obviously, for the Western economy is going to be greatly diminished.

00:18:04.880 And the U.S. economy in particular, you'd be flirting with a depression if they were destroyed.

00:18:11.360 So economically, Taiwan is a vibrant economy, and the chips are absolutely essential for all Americans and for the health and well-being, of course, of the American economy.

00:18:22.140 Secondly, Taiwan matters geostrategically and in a military sense because of its location.

00:18:29.300 Taiwan, of course, essentially 110 miles, its closest point from the mainland of China, is a very important base for defensive measures against China, for intelligence bases, and to help bottle up the PRC's navy.

00:18:51.960 Thirdly, it matters because of, in the sense of political warfare, Taiwan shows what China might be.

00:19:00.480 That is, Taiwan is a thriving democracy.

00:19:03.000 This year, of course, in January, very important elections were held.

00:19:06.460 And Taiwan shows what the mainland could be, what the People's Republic of China might be, and that is a vibrant democracy where the people rule themselves, which is why the CCP hates it and wants to obviously conquer it and destroy it, so that it's brought in like Hong Kong and like Tibet and other places, brought under the thumb of the CCP's tyranny.

00:19:31.680 So Taiwan matters for all of those reasons.

00:20:01.660 Let me use that term, let me use that term, to the United States for providing its defensive oversight of the island.

00:20:09.720 Well, I read Trump's remarks in the following way.

00:20:14.800 I see Trump employing what he does from time to time, which is a way to get allies and partners to contribute more to their defense.

00:20:25.920 And there's much more that Taiwan could do to defend itself.

00:20:30.020 Taiwan is not an ally of the U.S.

00:20:32.780 Of course, we call it a partner.

00:20:35.220 It's not a formal treaty ally in the way the Philippines is, for example.

00:20:40.460 So Trump's remarks, which is echoed, of course, to European states and other states, is a way to focus Taiwan on contributing more to it.

00:20:52.100 But we want to remember that Trump has strongly supported Taiwan in the face of the tyranny and in the face of the belligerence, hyper belligerence, really, from the People's Republic of China.

00:21:04.200 In December 2016, Ben, if you recall, Taiwan's president at the time called President-elect Trump, right?

00:21:12.740 The first foreign leader really with whom he had, I think, a meaningful and lengthy exchange was with the Taiwanese president at that time, which was a very important step.

00:21:24.440 And signaled to the People's Republic of China that things were not going to continue as they were under previous presidents.

00:21:33.020 And then when he was in office, of course, in his first term, President Trump greatly supported Taiwan for the strategic reasons I've indicated.

00:21:44.580 So I see his remarks, the interview on July 17th to Bloomberg, as really being an aspect to signal allies and partners around the world that we need to go back really to the way things were in the Cold War, where allies contributed greatly to their own defense and contributed mightily to their own actions, for example, whether those were NATO allies or other allies.

00:22:10.300 So you're suggesting that these pronouncements on behalf of President Trump with regards to Taiwan, of the same order and for the same scope as his similar statements regarding NATO allies with their own subscriptions towards NATO, pronouncements on behalf of Donald Trump that have actually produced fruit in NATO?

00:22:34.740 And so Taiwan has contributed very much and has worked with the U.S. in many ways and partners and allies like Japan as well.

00:22:46.560 So I think Trump is signaling there's much work to do, and the United States can do a lot of the heavy lifting, but allies and partners around the world also have to increasingly share the burden to deal with the threats that the U.S. allies and partners around the world face, and that's principally the Chinese Communist Party.

00:23:10.840 So in synthesis, then, Dr. Thayer, today on the show, you've basically been saying that from the fact that their third plenum has been delayed from last autumn to this year, the CCP is in disarray with regards to its economic planning, its five-year planning.

00:23:29.120 And the prospect of this Trump-Vance ticket now is only going to be keeping up the pressure against the CCP.

00:23:37.040 Absolutely.

00:23:39.360 That's why J.D. Vance was such an important signal, Ben, where J.D. Vance, with obviously coming from Ohio, communities decimated by fentanyl and other drug use, and then, of course, with the loss of trade, the loss, of course, of U.S. manufacturing to China, the People's Republic of China,

00:24:00.060 is a very important symbol where J.D. Vance, the pick of J.D. Vance, is absolutely key to signal to Beijing that Trump is going to continue many of the policies, and he's going to even double down on the policies of his first term.

00:24:20.440 And that is to have U.S. trade, obviously to have our manufacturing base on shore, right, to take it away from China, back to the United States, other countries.

00:24:33.260 And most importantly, or equally importantly, is to end the investment, right?

00:24:36.960 Wall Street continues to invest in the People's Republic of China.

00:24:41.420 We're funding our enemy, which is supremely foolish to do, and particularly when our enemy is in bad economic straits.

00:24:54.680 So that has to end, and Trump, I'm sure, will take many measures to restrict that flow, or ideally to end that flow, so that there's no investment of going into China.

00:25:09.500 That investment goes to Ohio, investment goes to Michigan, investment goes to Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, not to our enemy.

00:25:19.360 And that, I think, is key.

00:25:22.840 Yeah, Ben, please.

00:25:23.420 Dr. Thayer, that's perfect, a perfect synthesis.

00:25:26.420 It's absolutely insane to be funding, financially bankrolling, your own mortal enemy.

00:25:32.180 And I think people can have a reasonable confidence in that, that with a change of administration on November the 5th, that folly, that suicidal policy will finally come to an end.

00:25:44.640 Dr. Thayer, where can people go to catch up with your analysis as events unfold in China?

00:25:53.200 Absolutely, Ben.

00:25:54.140 But we want to keep in mind that, again, the CCP will be interfering in our election.

00:25:59.120 So that's critical to pay attention to that issue and the avenues that they'll use to interfere with it.

00:26:07.040 I'm at Brad Thayer on X or Bradley Thayer at Getter and Truth, and Jim Fennell and I wrote Embracing Communist China, America's Greatest Strategic Failure, and that's available wherever the audience buys books.

00:26:21.400 Thanks, Ben.

00:26:22.600 Great to see you.

00:26:23.660 Dr. Thayer, thank you.

00:26:25.420 Great to catch up with you.

00:26:26.360 Thanks for coming on the show this morning.

00:26:28.280 Have a great weekend.

00:26:29.440 My pleasure.

00:26:31.620 God bless.

00:26:32.340 Now, we have a clip for Todd Benzman.

00:26:36.160 We're not going to play it now.

00:26:37.360 We'll play it after the break.

00:26:39.920 Todd, good morning to you.

00:26:41.700 Good morning.

00:26:44.320 So the New York Times then has this article, bus by bus, that migrants are being sent in across the border.

00:26:57.740 Could you just sort of – we only have like a couple of moments, a minute or so after the break.

00:27:01.600 Could you just give us a teaser as to what's going on now, why the New York Times itself of all newspapers is starting to show attention on this, and then we'll have your clip after the break.

00:27:14.060 I think this article is a signal that sort of mainstream Democratic Party campaigners want to create this new talking point in the immigration debate in the campaign,

00:27:29.260 which is that it's the Republicans, it's Greg Abbott that is really causing a lot of angst and pain with immigration by busing illegal immigrants who just crossed the border into Texas,

00:27:45.540 into New York and Denver and Washington and all these northern cities and creating a kind of a chaos there.

00:27:51.760 It's the Republicans.

00:27:53.760 I think this is kind of creating a new talking point for the Democrats.

00:27:59.020 You're going to start hearing all about this now, I promise you.

00:28:02.900 But the problem with the story is that, OK, we can wait till the break.

00:28:07.960 We've got the break coming up, but in essence, basically, the Democratic strategy is to gaslight the American people.

00:28:16.060 Be back after the break.

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00:29:18.700 The speech was a reminder that Donald Trump is a menace who must be defeated.

00:29:24.300 And he is every bit the threat to democracy that he has been in his time in office and out of it.

00:29:29.620 And as he has been described over and over again.

00:29:34.060 And then we had that horrible, horrible result that we'll never let happen again.

00:29:39.260 The election result, we're never going to let that happen again.

00:29:42.440 They use COVID to cheat.

00:29:44.380 We're never going to let it happen again.

00:29:46.140 We had that horrible, horrible result.

00:29:48.860 We'll never let that happen again.

00:29:49.880 The election result, we're never going to let happen again.

00:29:52.700 They use COVID to cheat.

00:29:54.180 You know, we're never going to let that happen again.

00:29:56.320 He's not promising he's going to win.

00:30:00.620 He's saying he will not be defeated again, no matter what it takes.

00:30:04.200 We're never going to let it happen again.

00:30:06.560 And that's not scripted.

00:30:07.680 That's him just riffing.

00:30:08.860 That's pure Trump.

00:30:09.880 A frank statement of his authoritarian plans.

00:30:13.660 And that's not just talk.

00:30:16.140 Those plans are already in motion.

00:30:18.720 Last week, the New York Times reporting the Republican Party and its conservative allies

00:30:22.080 are engaged in an unprecedented legal campaign targeting the American voting system.

00:30:26.860 Quote, their wide ranging and methodical effort is laying the groundwork to contest an election

00:30:31.160 that they argue falsely is already being rigged against former President Donald J. Trump.

00:30:38.780 Keep in mind, they're up in the polls currently.

00:30:45.620 They could just run an election, but they don't want elections. 0.94

00:30:49.560 They don't want democracy.

00:30:51.080 Trump and his allies do not want a free and fair election.

00:30:53.560 And so they are planning to institute an extreme agenda, including the largest deportation operation in history,

00:31:01.020 as Trump promised in his speech, and it is laid out time and time again.

00:31:06.020 And if we needed any more evidence, Donald Trump is not a changed man after the attempt on his life,

00:31:11.160 that he is as dangerous as ever and must be kept away from power through normal democratic means.

00:31:16.580 But we got it in droves last night.

00:31:20.340 Welcome back.

00:31:22.920 Todd Benzman, I do want to discuss this New York Times article,

00:31:26.440 but let's just pick up from what Chris Hayes was saying there on MSNBC.

00:31:31.660 Do you think it's credible, before talking about the deportation thing, right,

00:31:35.740 which is, I know, one of your areas of great expertise,

00:31:40.720 but first just a general question, do you think it's credible for MSNBC or the mainstream media in general

00:31:49.460 to pitch themselves and the Democrats together as the great protectors of democracy

00:31:55.500 and the idea that Donald Trump represents a threat to democracy,

00:32:00.060 when it's them, it's this mainstream media and Democrat Party complex

00:32:08.220 that is trying to imprison, you know, my boss.

00:32:11.160 The reason I'm presenting the show today is because my boss is in prison, right?

00:32:14.680 It's the Democrats that are imprisoning their political opposition,

00:32:19.560 as they did famously, desperately try to do to Donald Trump himself.

00:32:23.840 Who are the real threats to American democracy?

00:32:26.600 Is it Donald Trump or is it the Democrats and the mainstream media together?

00:32:31.960 Well, this isn't really my area of expertise, but I do have an opinion on it.

00:32:36.400 I just point to the effort to remove Donald Trump from 32 state ballots as a threat to democracy.

00:32:47.060 I mean, that was a real, that was real.

00:32:49.520 They tried to do that.

00:32:51.760 Failed.

00:32:52.380 It had to go all the way to the Supreme Court.

00:32:54.900 But listen, I mean, it just comes off as sort of conspiracy theory.

00:32:59.280 The way I, I don't know how they leap to threat to democracy from what Trump was saying.

00:33:04.920 To me, I read that as we want to prevent fraud.

00:33:09.600 We want to prevent irregularities from occurring.

00:33:13.780 If irregularities occur and we find evidence of fraud, then we'll act on that,

00:33:20.000 investigate and do things to reverse the fraud through legal processes, through normal legal means.

00:33:28.420 That's how I read that, what he says.

00:33:33.020 Yeah.

00:33:33.600 I mean, I mean, it's pretty clear that the Democrats have exactly the same flexibility that they do as they have on borders, open borders, as they do to ballot boxes.

00:33:43.300 When they want open ballot boxes, basically, that anyone can stuff a whole load into.

00:33:48.380 It's all one of a piece.

00:33:49.680 And for the same reasons, I think, you know, we heard in the first segment with Dr. Bradley Thayer on the same subject that the Chinese, the CCP, is interested, has an interest, I should say, in ensuring that Donald Trump doesn't return to the White House in November.

00:34:09.620 And so there's obviously the whole suspicion of the importance of the election integrity issue with regards to the CCP coming into play as well.

00:34:18.460 So, look, we just heard on that short video clip from Chris Hayes talking in sort of clutching at his pearls at the idea of this great deportation.

00:34:29.380 Could you sort of break that down a little bit and sort of give a fore, an anticipation, an anticipation to the war in posse, what they might expect post-January the 20th of 2025 with regards to this great deportation?

00:34:48.160 Sure. First, you have to you have to establish and recognize that the greatest inflow of illegal immigrants into the United States has just taken place for three and a half years now.

00:35:01.140 So if you're going to reverse the effects of that or you're going to just kind of reverse the consequences of that, you have to have an equal and opposite reaction to it in policy, which is going to be the largest deportation operation in U.S. history, too.

00:35:20.700 I mean, you have the biggest inflow that I didn't hear anybody complaining about that.

00:35:26.220 So a deportation operation like what they're talking about is going to be huge.

00:35:34.040 It has to be because there will be literally, you know, eight, nine million people in the country illegally that just got here illegally.

00:35:44.320 I'm not even talking about the population that was here before.

00:35:47.380 And a significant percentage, a two significant percentage of them are going to be criminal aliens.

00:35:54.500 We're seeing this happen all the time.

00:35:56.900 In his speech, the president said, we're going to reverse.

00:36:00.280 We're going to put your your criminals back home.

00:36:04.080 So that is going to require a ramping up of personnel.

00:36:08.560 ICE only has about six thousand officers right now.

00:36:12.160 They've been chained to their desks for the last three and a half years.

00:36:15.300 He's going to have to unchain them, give them new priorities.

00:36:18.400 But he's going to have to expand their ranks significantly.

00:36:22.080 What that means and how he's going to do that, he's not saying.

00:36:25.620 But he's going to have to increase that from six thousand to whatever, ten thousand or more to actually do this.

00:36:32.560 He's going to have to expand the detention facility infrastructure.

00:36:37.420 The Biden administration has been constantly contracting the bed space, closing facilities, canceling contracts with private detention operators.

00:36:49.620 Trump is going to have to get all that reverse so that there's a place to put all these people while we're finding air flights for them or scheduling their returns to Mexico or wherever they're going.

00:37:01.280 So there is an infrastructure.

00:37:03.800 There'll be a lag time to get to get this going.

00:37:07.660 But the very first thing he has to do is stop the hemorrhaging, which is the easiest thing to do, really, inside of about an hour on day one inauguration hour at noon plus one hour.

00:37:21.820 He can probably have the whole thing shut down so that there's no more significant numbers coming through.

00:37:28.620 That's number one.

00:37:30.760 And then he's got to start the deportation operations.

00:37:33.800 It's got to be lawful.

00:37:36.040 He's going to be wanting to hit criminals first.

00:37:38.940 There's a lot of them.

00:37:40.060 And then he's going to want to go after, you know, judicial orders where there are removal orders by a judge.

00:37:47.420 There are millions of those out there that need to be served and he should go after those next.

00:37:53.680 It's going to be a big, big job.

00:37:55.080 Todd, Benzman, I'm intrigued by what you were saying.

00:38:01.220 I'm just slightly curious as to why you would want to let a whole hour, a whole 60 minute time frame lapse between putting the hand on the Bible and signing the executive order.

00:38:14.100 I mean, surely it could be basically one fluid movement, right?

00:38:17.020 Hand on the Bible, oath of office.

00:38:19.340 And where's my pen?

00:38:20.480 Here's my pen.

00:38:21.140 It takes 30 seconds.

00:38:25.400 Let's go back to this New York Times thing, because I think what you were saying here is important as an illustration of how the strategy of the mainstream media to implement its gaslighting here on the American public.

00:38:40.240 You were saying before the break that they're pushing this argument now and they're finally talking like the New York Times is finally talking about the immigration crisis.

00:38:49.420 But they're framing it in such a way and they're doing this to try and suggest that it's all the Republicans' fault.

00:38:56.200 It's all Governor Abbott's fault.

00:38:59.420 I could guess that for the people whose only source of news is MSNBC or the New York Times, some people in that audience might buy that.

00:39:10.820 But for the wider American public, are they going to be persuaded by this, that the immigration crisis is actually Republicans' fault?

00:39:21.240 Or will they just see this as an attempt at gaslighting so ludicrous it will just bounce back in Democrats' faces? 0.99

00:39:30.380 Well, I think stories like the New York Times and some of the big talking points about it's the Republicans' fault and it's a broken border, it's Trump's fault, it's the Democrats' fault for killing that piece of legislation that was so terrible, that all of that is predicated on a presumption on the Democratic Party side that the American public is really stupid. 0.99

00:39:56.780 And I don't believe that. 0.95

00:39:58.780 And I think the American public is smart.

00:40:01.780 They can see what's going on all around them.

00:40:04.820 They believe that their eyes are not lying.

00:40:08.860 They see all around them in all these cities what's going on.

00:40:12.720 The mayor of Denver giving six months free all-paid residence to the hundreds of thousands of immigrants and all the free stuff that's attracting everybody.

00:40:24.460 I think it's obvious that, you know, the crime that's being committed, murdered young women and little girls. 0.97

00:40:33.880 I just don't think that the old style of the Democratic presumption that people are just too stupid to be able to catch on to what they're doing is going to fly this time because it's just all around us. 0.99

00:40:48.540 You can read it on social media. 0.98

00:40:51.260 You don't need the New York Times anymore.

00:40:52.900 But about that New York Times story, if I could just say a couple things, it's trying to regurgitate this old story that it's the Republican governor of Texas that's creating crises in the interior for political reasons.

00:41:08.740 And I just want to point out a couple of problems with that.

00:41:11.920 One is that every immigrant that gets on those buses in Texas is on those buses voluntarily. 0.95

00:41:19.200 They sign a waiver saying, I understand they're taking advantage of a free bus ride.

00:41:24.320 They were going to go to these places anyway, with or without the free bus ride.

00:41:29.540 And the reason that they were going to go to these cities anyway is because those cities are the ones that are providing all the free stuff.

00:41:40.260 How do I know this?

00:41:41.420 Because I've interviewed thousands of the immigrants while they were still in Mexico on their way in.

00:41:46.380 And that's what they tell me all the time.

00:41:48.720 Can I just give the context to what you're saying there?

00:41:52.160 Because this article itself in the New York Times reports Muriel Bowser, the mayor of Washington, is coming on record as saying that people who are being bused in from Texas have been tricked.

00:42:06.220 They've been tricked by Governor Abbott.

00:42:11.000 Is that what he's doing?

00:42:11.940 You know, I listen to what you just said.

00:42:13.700 I'm just wondering, there's a doubt in my mind now.

00:42:15.660 Perhaps the governor of Texas is tricking these, is duplicitously tricking these illegal migrants, the invaders, as they call on this show, to go to Washington, D.C. 0.81

00:42:34.300 And not all the free stuff that the Democrats are handing out.

00:42:37.880 That's a false narrative.

00:42:39.180 I've been at the buses, the Texas buses, as they're loading up here in Texas.

00:42:45.880 I live in Austin.

00:42:47.400 Many times I've been in and around the whole operation, and they have to sign a waiver in Spanish.

00:42:55.120 This whole thing is discussed and described at length before they ever step foot on the bus.

00:43:01.120 And they all talk amongst themselves on the bus.

00:43:04.520 Like, that's a really hard trick to pull off to for 80 people on a bus.

00:43:10.340 Todd, we've got a break.

00:43:14.320 Would you just hold on for two minutes?

00:43:17.460 Sure.

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00:44:28.440 who have been installed by what we call the deep state

00:44:31.160 into every agency and department in the United States government.

00:44:35.260 Had Donald Trump not won in 2016,

00:44:37.460 he would not have exposed the flank of the deep state

00:44:40.000 and their weapon of choice, the two-tier system of justice.

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00:44:44.920 to Joe Biden's classified documents case,

00:44:46.680 to January 6th to the 51 Intel letter and everything in between,

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00:44:54.340 learning from their mistakes 0.86

00:44:55.300 and perfecting ways to hide their corruption.

00:44:57.860 It is finally time

00:44:59.680 for a straightforward assessment

00:45:02.820 of the state of our nation.

00:45:05.240 Welcome back to The War Room.

00:45:26.580 Todd Benzman, you were saying just before the break now

00:45:29.120 about the strategy of the mainstream media,

00:45:31.480 specifically on this occasion, both MSNBC and the New York Times,

00:45:36.700 in two different areas, but allied areas,

00:45:39.700 to perpetrate not just sort of propaganda on the American people,

00:45:44.280 but gaslighting, confronting the American people

00:45:48.560 with a narrative that conflicts with people's direct,

00:45:55.000 day-to-day, empirical observations of reality.

00:45:59.200 I just want to tie this up because we're coming up shortly

00:46:02.960 to the handover, to the legendary, to the great Dave Brat,

00:46:07.480 who's going to take the second hour.

00:46:09.360 But before we get to Dave, could you just sort of wrap this up for me?

00:46:12.600 As a strategy, it might play well to the very core of the Democrat base,

00:46:18.200 but for the floating voters in the middle,

00:46:20.960 in these famous five states, which I think there are six states,

00:46:24.960 six swing states, five of which are tilting towards Donald Trump.

00:46:28.900 How's it going to play with floating voters

00:46:31.300 to be confronted so directly with a narrative

00:46:34.900 that people themselves know is fake?

00:46:37.360 Well, again, I think that people see this all around them. 0.99

00:46:43.440 They're not stupid. 0.75

00:46:45.040 People are, American voters are smart and savvy. 0.97

00:46:49.560 And I think that they are going to see what's happening around them.

00:46:55.060 They're going to seek out information on social media.

00:47:00.700 It will reach them, what's going on in their immediate communities.

00:47:04.640 I want to point out one other thing is that, you know,

00:47:09.000 there's a new narrative that's out there

00:47:11.320 about how the number of illegal crossings are way down.

00:47:16.520 The numbers just came out for June, and they do show a steep drop.

00:47:23.440 But what the mainstream media is not telling people in the interior

00:47:27.700 about those numbers, they're taking victory laps.

00:47:31.080 But what they're not saying is that there are three different other rails

00:47:36.880 of importation absolutely raging right now,

00:47:42.500 bringing in just hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants.

00:47:46.860 But they're bringing them in by flight into places like New York,

00:47:52.460 direct flights from foreign cities,

00:47:54.220 at least 40,000 more a month of those at least,

00:48:00.100 and another 40,000 being crossed over the land ports as well.

00:48:05.780 There's like 70 or 80,000 more a month,

00:48:10.100 and then another 5,000 or 10,000 being brought in as refugees.

00:48:15.060 They're calling them refugees,

00:48:16.960 stamping them with this new sort of shoehorning them

00:48:22.000 into the refugee system.

00:48:24.160 People that don't belong there have never been given refugee status.

00:48:28.080 And so the total numbers are far greater

00:48:30.820 than what you're telling, what they're going to be telling you.

00:48:33.880 And I think the war room needs to understand,

00:48:36.280 and all those interior states people need to understand that,

00:48:39.920 however they're getting in,

00:48:41.100 they're coming with their hands out to your community.

00:48:44.220 Todd Benzman, amazing.

00:48:47.140 Thank you for this analysis.

00:48:48.640 Where can people go to keep up to date

00:48:51.460 with your commentary on these things as they unfold?

00:48:55.020 Right.

00:48:55.580 So I work for the Center for Immigration Studies,

00:48:57.900 cis.org.

00:48:59.560 You can find all of my work there.

00:49:01.840 I'll be going to the Darien Gap,

00:49:03.520 Colombia and Panama in just another week or two.

00:49:07.580 And you can go to toddbenzman.com

00:49:10.040 to sign up for my newsletter there.

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00:49:19.160 Sign on there.

00:49:21.680 Todd, outstanding.

00:49:22.840 Thanks very much indeed.

00:49:24.000 God bless you.

00:49:24.700 Have a great weekend.

00:49:25.940 All right.

00:49:26.300 Thank you.

00:49:28.360 We've got two minutes just before the break,

00:49:30.460 and I'll hand over to Dave Bratt for the second hour.

00:49:33.960 Dave, good morning to you.

00:49:35.080 Before I sign off,

00:49:36.420 I have a question for you, if I may.

00:49:38.880 We've got two minutes.

00:49:41.200 Do you think that Joe Biden is going to last the weekend?

00:49:47.760 I'm still stuck on that

00:49:49.780 in the face of overwhelming evidence.

00:49:53.360 But I'm just stuck on it because of Dr. Jill

00:49:57.540 and the son and the Hunter laptop.

00:50:00.080 And they want a fail-proof guarantee.

00:50:03.040 And it looks like the second scenario

00:50:05.120 is the vice president.

00:50:06.820 Harris gets the nod.

00:50:09.320 She may not win.

00:50:10.640 Biden's chances of winning are probably better than hers.

00:50:13.980 And so the family's like,

00:50:15.160 no way, Jose.

00:50:16.200 But I'm not a political expert.

00:50:18.640 I'm sitting here.

00:50:19.380 I'm more of an economist theologian,

00:50:21.440 you know, like you.

00:50:22.040 It strikes me that the Regency presidency of Dr. Jill Biden

00:50:30.000 is drawing to a close.

00:50:31.880 And if he's not going to go,

00:50:34.420 if President Magoo isn't going to go voluntarily,

00:50:37.940 the Democratic Party elites,

00:50:40.300 this statute,

00:50:40.840 are going to take control of this themselves,

00:50:42.920 as they are doing.

00:50:44.080 Even Nancy Pelosi now has come out

00:50:46.200 and said on the record

00:50:47.600 that if Joe Biden should go,

00:50:51.460 there needs to be an open convention

00:50:53.060 in picking the successor,

00:50:54.840 which isn't a particularly favourable comment

00:50:57.300 for Kamala's point of view.

00:51:02.880 But I think you can see that

00:51:04.000 the Democrats are managing this,

00:51:06.760 the leading Democrats,

00:51:07.940 because they're cutting,

00:51:09.480 they're speaking to all the donors,

00:51:11.040 and the donors are cutting off the purse strings. 0.98

00:51:13.940 They're cutting off the money.

00:51:17.780 As someone who's been in Congress yourself,

00:51:19.860 you'll know,

00:51:20.740 even though, of course, famously you won,

00:51:22.580 but normally the general rule is

00:51:26.300 is that you need money to fight the campaign.

00:51:29.900 And if they're cutting off

00:51:31.420 the oxygen supply of financing,

00:51:33.440 I think it's pretty clear

00:51:34.560 that whatever they're saying publicly,

00:51:36.660 the Democratic Party

00:51:38.080 are not looking to go into November

00:51:41.480 with Joe Biden.

00:51:43.280 What they want is a candidate,

00:51:44.760 as far as I can see,

00:51:45.660 and you just quickly tell me in 30 seconds,

00:51:47.960 what they're looking for is a candidate

00:51:49.200 that isn't going to be a drag down ballot.

00:51:52.580 Yeah, no, I agree with that.

00:51:54.460 But the more they fight

00:51:55.620 and put the pressure on the Bidens,

00:51:58.000 the more the Bidens are going to get

00:51:59.160 their back up against the wall,

00:52:00.480 fight back.

00:52:01.820 And so they're going to catch 22.

00:52:03.680 It's a doozy,

00:52:05.420 but it's good theater.

00:52:07.660 Dave, thanks very much.

00:52:08.880 Have a great show coming up after 11.

00:52:11.220 Thanks, Ben.

00:52:11.680 We'll do posse.

00:52:12.800 Love you loads.

00:52:13.540 Great job.

00:52:13.980 Especially on the live chat.

00:52:14.940 Great job, Ben.

00:52:16.500 Thanks, Dave.

00:52:17.180 And I will catch you next week.

00:52:19.040 God bless,

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Bannon's War Room - July 20, 2024

Episode 3771： Mainstream Turns Back On Biden As They Continue To Meltdown Over RNC

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