Bannon's War Room - Episode 3802： WarRoom Special： The Kamala Krash

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,

00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:11.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:19.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:22.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:26.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul.

00:00:30.000 I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:33.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country,

00:00:40.000 this country will be saved.

00:00:43.000 War Room.

00:00:44.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:00:49.000 Hey, Peter K. Navarro in.

00:00:51.000 Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Band.

00:00:54.000 We got a hot show today.

00:00:56.000 We are instituting the phrase which we will use going into the November election.

00:01:04.000 The Kamala crash.

00:01:06.000 The Kamala crash.

00:01:08.000 Crash with a K. 0.92

00:01:10.000 Let's see if it's catching on.

00:01:12.000 I got to tip my hat to Scott Besson for coming up to that.

00:01:18.000 Otherwise, you'll sue me for copyright infringement.

00:01:22.000 Kamala crash.

00:01:24.000 Going to have the t-shirts out.

00:01:27.000 If you haven't been noticing, the stock market is collapsing.

00:01:33.000 The bond market seeing yields crash.

00:01:38.000 And we'll be talking a lot about that.

00:01:41.000 But we're also going to have a analysis from one of my favorite people,

00:01:49.000 Robert O'Brien at the at the West Wing National Security Advisor on the hostage trade and see who got the best of that.

00:02:00.000 Spoiler alert.

00:02:01.000 It was Putin.

00:02:03.000 Before we go any further, though, I want to say that today it's the one month anniversary of Stephen K.

00:02:11.000 Bannon going in to a weaponized Joe Biden prison.

00:02:17.000 He and I have the exact jail terms, four months, 120 days.

00:02:26.000 But here's possibly good news for the war room posse.

00:02:32.000 Under two prison reform pieces of legislation Congress passed, the Second Chance Act and the First Step Act,

00:02:45.000 Steve, with a 120-day sentence, should be out 42 days earlier than that, which would put him into September.

00:02:57.000 He should be allowed to go first to a halfway house and then home confinement. 0.98

00:03:04.000 And they didn't let me do that, which is how much they stuck it to me.

00:03:12.000 Under the law, I was entitled to be out in June.

00:03:17.000 They kept me till July 17th.

00:03:20.000 But technically, Steve should be out much earlier.

00:03:25.000 So we're going to watch that situation carefully.

00:03:29.000 I'm sure his lawyers are going to be very proactive about this because the Bureau of Prisons will break the law if they keep him in all 120 days.

00:03:43.000 So he doesn't need our prayers.

00:03:46.000 He doesn't need our thoughts.

00:03:47.000 That man is a rock.

00:03:49.000 But we're going to give it to him anyway.

00:03:51.000 Stephen K. Bannon, one month anniversary.

00:03:53.000 And we hope to possibly see him a lot sooner than the four month term.

00:04:00.000 Do we have Robert on?

00:04:02.000 OK, we're going to get I want to give you a little backdrop here on this whole hostage thing.

00:04:10.000 In some sense, this is the power of encompassing. 0.64

00:04:14.000 First of all, I want to tell you how pissed off I am at The Wall Street Journal for its hypocrisy.

00:04:21.000 The Wall Street Journal, Paul Gijo, he's the guy who runs the editorial page. 0.97

00:04:28.000 He hates me.

00:04:29.000 He when I was in the administration, he did like two lead editorials talking about a Navarro recession, which Paul never came, by the way, as a result of the Trump tariffs.

00:04:40.000 They were good for the economy, not bad.

00:04:43.000 But these SLBs at The Wall Street Journal editorialized and said that, good, they should put me in prison.

00:04:52.000 Why? To show that Congress could actually have subpoena power and maintain their authority.

00:04:58.000 A memo to The Wall Street Journal, the legislative branch should never have the power to subpoena senior presidential age or the president himself.

00:05:10.000 Shame on you, Wall Street Journal, for editorializing to put me in prison, even as you're wringing your hands and clutching your pearls over your reporter stuck over in Russia.

00:05:22.000 Now, I'm the first guy to say that guy was psychologically and probably physically tortured and had no business being in a prison in Russia.

00:05:35.000 And, yeah, I mean, The Wall Street Journal did a very good job campaigning to get him back.

00:05:42.000 But I haven't heard them campaign to get political prisoners here in the United States like me and Bannon and some of the J6 people out there. 1.00

00:05:52.000 They're crickets. They're crickets. 0.57

00:05:56.000 So are we still waiting for Robert?

00:06:00.000 All right. I'm going to do this in real time.

00:06:04.000 The setup here is that the first rule in hostage negotiations is that you don't negotiate for hostages.

00:06:15.000 Look, it's a bad it's a bad thing to do to begin with.

00:06:19.000 The second rule is if you got to do it, you at least trade equal for equal.

00:06:25.000 But but but we got a situation here where.

00:06:30.000 The Russians who are stuck in prisons in here in Germany and other places, really bad people, arms dealers, assassins, this, that and the other. 1.00

00:06:41.000 And these are these are people that needed to be off the street.

00:06:44.000 And contrast, you have the Russians scooping up innocent people and putting them in prison. 0.56

00:06:51.000 So.

00:06:53.000 There's this thing called strategic game theory, like a repeatable game.

00:06:57.000 Right. If if if you do this thing more than once, you have to understand the consequences of doing it once.

00:07:04.000 So here Biden and Harris is going to try to grab the credit for this, which she had no no role in it at all.

00:07:14.000 But here we have a situation where Putin has a bunch of criminals and stuck in in in the West.

00:07:27.000 And then we have a bunch of people in the West has a bunch of people stuck in Putin's prisons who didn't do anything at all.

00:07:33.000 OK, so we exchange that. Right.

00:07:36.000 So in the repeatable game that we have going on.

00:07:43.000 What's going to happen next?

00:07:46.000 Every time a Russian assassin gets arrested in in in Germany or the United States or somewhere else.

00:07:57.000 Who is going to do what?

00:07:59.000 He's going to grab.

00:08:00.000 He's going to grab.

00:08:02.000 An American or a German or somebody off the street who's totally innocent, put him in a prison, sentence him to like 20 years of hard labor in some gulag and then wait for the West to come crawling. 0.99

00:08:15.000 To.

00:08:16.000 Him.

00:08:19.000 Chess match.

00:08:20.000 This isn't even chess.

00:08:21.000 It's checkers.

00:08:23.000 Checkers, mind you. 0.99

00:08:25.000 And why are we doing this?

00:08:30.000 Well, it's the incumbency.

00:08:32.000 Biden wanted to get.

00:08:34.000 Actually, it's interesting.

00:08:36.000 This was this was Biden was hoping to do this.

00:08:39.000 Robert O'Brien, if we could ever get him up.

00:08:41.000 Can Cameron just give him a call.

00:08:43.000 See what's going on here.

00:08:47.000 Come on now.

00:08:48.000 This is radio.

00:08:49.000 This is live podcast TV here.

00:08:52.000 This is what happens.

00:08:54.000 The thing is, Biden was going to use this whole episode.

00:08:59.000 To save his ability to run for president.

00:09:05.000 But it came too late.

00:09:09.000 And to save him.

00:09:12.000 So anyway, he's going to claim credit and Kamala is going to come in and do it. 1.00

00:09:18.000 But what an awful precedent.

00:09:21.000 Think of this.

00:09:22.000 Think of this.

00:09:23.000 It was interesting watching Erin Burnett last night try to try to spin around that. 1.00

00:09:30.000 This this this uncomfortable truth that we had traded a Wall Street Journal reporter who had done nothing for a Russian assassin who had killed people.

00:09:43.000 And she was she was she was like, yeah, but this was great diplomacy.

00:09:52.000 He could have it's like it's beautiful when you watch these left wingers get tortured over the reality of what was what was a brutal hostage crisis.

00:10:04.000 So at some point we'll get get get O'Brien on.

00:10:09.000 I'm going to morph now over to the Kamala crash.

00:10:15.000 I don't know if you've been watching the the markets, but this is part of your training in the posse.

00:10:24.000 Every time I've ever come on, I've always urged you to study the stock and bond markets because they tell you what's going to be happening in the broader economy.

00:10:36.000 And we've seen a remarkable turnover globally.

00:10:41.000 In equities.

00:10:43.000 On.

00:10:45.000 On.

00:10:46.000 What.

00:10:48.000 The Wall Street analysts are calling.

00:10:51.000 A softening economy.

00:10:53.000 But suppose I told you that the real thing going on has more to do with the political cycle as it affects the economy.

00:11:04.000 Think about it this way.

00:11:08.000 We're going along for the last several months, the stock markets doing great, just doing great.

00:11:19.000 What's going on there?

00:11:22.000 Biden is not doing great.

00:11:25.000 What we're seeing essentially is Donald Trump getting further and further ahead in the polls.

00:11:35.000 And what does that signal to Wall Street?

00:11:38.000 That signals that we're going to have an error of low tax rates and low regulation that will be ushered in to stimulate the economy.

00:11:50.000 Remember, the Trump tax cuts are expiring.

00:11:54.000 And the question is whether they will be renewed under a hairish regime. 0.97

00:12:00.000 Clearly, they will not.

00:12:02.000 You will see a jump in the corporate tax rate in the low 20s, well over 30 percent.

00:12:09.000 Think about that.

00:12:10.000 Think about that.

00:12:11.000 That's pure Wall Street bread and butter stuff.

00:12:14.000 Right.

00:12:15.000 So if you're thinking about who is more likely to help you in the stock market, it's clearly Donald Trump.

00:12:26.000 If you raise corporate taxes, just just that alone.

00:12:31.000 That's a huge bite out of the bottom line.

00:12:35.000 So so what happens?

00:12:37.000 Funny thing happens on the way to the bull market.

00:12:39.000 We get Joe going down, Kamala coming up, the market going down.

00:12:47.000 All right.

00:12:48.000 We're going to bring Robert O'Brien in now with 60 seconds left in this segment and hope he can stick around for the beginning.

00:12:58.000 My brother, Robert, how are you, sir?

00:13:01.000 I'm doing well, Peter.

00:13:02.000 How are you today?

00:13:06.000 Well, it's just another another working day in the war room here.

00:13:10.000 But we've got can you stick around for the for the break and come back in a few minutes?

00:13:17.000 For sure.

00:13:19.000 OK, so give me your 60 second read here first on this hostage thing and then we'll dive a little deeper when we come back.

00:13:27.000 Well, it's great news that Evan and Olsa and Vladimir and Paul Wheeler are all back.

00:13:32.000 Those Americans were happy to have him home.

00:13:34.000 The Russian prison is not a great place to be, as you can imagine.

00:13:38.000 So glad to have him home.

00:13:40.000 Vladimir Putin gets a big win because he shows his KGB and FGR and FSB, you know, spies that he could get an assassin home.

00:13:49.000 He went out and killed a dissident in Germany in broad daylight and he got him home. 0.95

00:13:55.000 So big day for Putin and a big day for the Wall Street Journal to get their reporter home.

00:14:04.000 This was supposed to be Biden's victory, right?

00:14:07.000 A hundred percent.

00:14:09.000 Look, Peter, this happened two weeks ago.

00:14:11.000 Biden's probably spilled a Democrat ticket.

00:14:14.000 So it's got to be bittersweet for Biden.

00:14:17.000 Yeah.

00:14:18.000 All right.

00:14:19.000 Look, we've got to take a quick break.

00:14:21.000 When we come back, I want to get into the implications going forward for Putin actually grabbing more innocent victims

00:14:30.000 and trading them for assassins in what we call in game theory the repeatable game.

00:14:36.000 So we're here for my favorite, favorite guy in the West Wing, former national security advisor, the guy who saved us from John Bolton and was just absolutely stellar.

00:14:47.000 We'll be right back in the war room talking hostages, Putin, chess, checkers, Stephen K.

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00:16:02.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:09.000 Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:14.000 I am so pleased to be talking with the former national security advisor, one of my – actually, my favorite guy in the West Wing besides the president at the end there, Robert O'Brien.

00:16:29.000 And to set up this discussion, we've had now a hostage exchange in which we have traded a assassin for – who was guilty for a Wall Street Journal reporter who was innocent and other folks involved in the exchange.

00:16:48.000 What's beautiful about Robert O'Brien to talk about this is he was actually the hostage negotiator at the State Department at the beginning of the Trump administration.

00:16:59.000 He did that for almost two years.

00:17:02.000 And what he's going to tell you now are two things.

00:17:06.000 When he got hostages back, he never had to give up bad guys or bad things because that's the way he rolls and Trump rolled.

00:17:15.000 And he's going to give you the history.

00:17:18.000 It's like this one here is the third case where Putin's beaten Biden-Harris in hostage negotiations, basically getting back.

00:17:30.000 The first one, an arms dealer for Brittany Griner.

00:17:35.000 The second one involved a money launderer of Putin's for some corporate executives in Venezuela.

00:17:44.000 And now we got the assassin for the reporter.

00:17:47.000 So, Robert, tell me just how bad a precedent that Harris and Biden are setting in their shameless quest to get elected.

00:18:00.000 Well, listen, Peter, we always are happy when Americans come home. 0.85

00:18:03.000 And so all the Americans that came home, Brittany and Evan and others, were thrilled to have them back.

00:18:09.000 But what you don't want to do, and you know, you're the economist here and know this better than I do.

00:18:14.000 You don't want to create a market for hostage taking.

00:18:17.000 And when you pay ransom or you get high-profile prisoners back in exchange for innocent Americans,

00:18:23.000 you created a perverse incentive for the bad guys, for the Putins and the Xi Jinping's and the Ayatollahs 0.95

00:18:30.000 to take innocent Americans knowing that they can trade them back and get their bond-villain bad guys back from the West.

00:18:38.000 So if you're Vladimir Putin and you're asking a spy to go kill someone in West Germany or kill someone in London or kill someone in America, 0.88

00:18:46.000 you can tell them, look, don't worry if you get caught, oh, just kidnap an American and trade them back for you so we'll bring you home. 0.95

00:18:53.000 And so you're creating a very bad incentive, you know, process.

00:18:57.000 As happy as we are to get Evan out of a bad situation in a Russian jail, which is no good place to be, 0.81

00:19:04.000 you know, are we transferring the misery on to some other future American who's going to get taken, you know, to trade back for a bad guy?

00:19:12.000 And let's run through the gruesome threesome of Putin's basically out chess playing the Biden.

00:19:23.000 Brittany Griner, okay, the basketball star who got caught with a little pot in her bag.

00:19:32.000 Who do we have to trade for her? 1.00

00:19:35.000 We traded a guy named Victor Bout.

00:19:38.000 And if any of you ever watched the, if any of your listeners ever watched the movie Lord of War with Nicolas Cage,

00:19:45.000 he's basically playing the Victor Bout character.

00:19:47.000 This was the world's number one arms dealer.

00:19:50.000 We chased him for years.

00:19:51.000 We set up a sting operation with the FBI in Thailand, got him.

00:19:55.000 He was in jail for life.

00:19:57.000 And Putin traded a WNBA star to get him back to Russia.

00:20:03.000 So Biden panders to, I guess, the gay and black community to get Brittany Griner out. 0.96

00:20:15.000 And Putin's got one of the worst arms. 0.96

00:20:20.000 Okay, so let's do the next one.

00:20:23.000 The corporate executives for the money launderer.

00:20:28.000 What was that one about that Harrison Biden did?

00:20:31.000 Yeah, so this guy was a guy named Saab.

00:20:34.000 And he was a Venezuelan kind of Russian money launderer.

00:20:39.000 He was kind of the financial bag man for Maduro and Chavez and Putin.

00:20:43.000 He's the guy who moved the money around between the regimes.

00:20:47.000 And he got caught again.

00:20:50.000 We have an ally, the Cape Verde Islands, picked him up on a private flight.

00:20:56.000 We had to help the Cape Verdeans keep him because the Russians were threatening to send special forces in to rescue him.

00:21:02.000 We had Coast Guard ships and Navy ships offshore of Cape Verde to make sure we got him back.

00:21:07.000 He was in jail.

00:21:08.000 This is a very bad guy.

00:21:10.000 And, unfortunately, he's now free again.

00:21:15.000 And useful to Putin likely moving money around in his Ukraine adventure, I would say.

00:21:23.000 Yeah, he knows all the Swiss bank account numbers.

00:21:26.000 And so now we have the third strike against Harris Biden in terms of their negotiating.

00:21:36.000 Tell us about the political, the assassin.

00:21:40.000 I guess he shot somebody in broad daylight in Germany.

00:21:43.000 But do we know if he killed anybody else?

00:21:46.000 Well, we know he's a KGB assassin.

00:21:48.000 I think he's a KGB colonel, or now FSB is their name, colonel.

00:21:53.000 He gets dispatched to Germany.

00:21:55.000 He killed somebody, a Chechen dissident, a political opponent of Putin, in broad daylight in the Berlin equivalent of Central Park.

00:22:05.000 He gets picked up by the Germans, sentenced to the life in prison.

00:22:10.000 The Germans don't want to let him go, but President Biden leaned on Chancellor Schultz to spring him so that they could get Evan back.

00:22:18.000 And, again, in all these cases, Peter, you know, we're always happy to have Americans home. 0.99

00:22:23.000 I mean, President Trump didn't care if anyone was black or white or what their party was.

00:22:28.000 When an American was held abroad, President Trump felt that that was the essence of American First, that some other government or some terrorist organization was holding an American with a blue passport to try and leverage President Trump.

00:22:43.000 And he wasn't going to have anything of that.

00:22:45.000 And he'd use all tools of national power to get him back, but we weren't going to encourage more hostage-taking.

00:22:51.000 So we're glad to have these Americans back, but we were paying a very, very dear price to get them back. 0.99

00:22:57.000 That's the problem here.

00:23:00.000 And you walked the talk.

00:23:02.000 How many hostage did you get back?

00:23:05.000 Was there any case where you ever had to give up more than you thought you should have?

00:23:10.000 How did you go about it?

00:23:12.000 Well, look, the first thing is that President Trump got all these positives back.

00:23:15.000 You know, I was lucky enough to work for him and be a special presidential envoy for hostage affairs and doing negotiations.

00:23:23.000 But, look, I couldn't have been an effective negotiator if I didn't have Trump to rely on.

00:23:29.000 The power of Trump.

00:23:30.000 Fear and respect for Trump.

00:23:32.000 Amen.

00:23:33.000 My counterparts knew that if they couldn't come to a deal with me, they were going to have to deal with Donald Trump.

00:23:38.000 And there was more than one occasion, Peter, that I picked up my briefcase and put my papers back in it and got up from the table and said,

00:23:46.000 Look, we're done here.

00:23:47.000 We gave it our best shot.

00:23:48.000 It's not going to happen.

00:23:49.000 I'm going to go tell President Trump that you couldn't make a deal.

00:23:51.000 And let's see what he does.

00:23:53.000 And that was the close.

00:23:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:23:59.000 Let's get this deal done.

00:24:01.000 Yeah.

00:24:02.000 So the credit really goes to President Trump, not to me.

00:24:07.000 No, I'm glad you said that because when I was in there with you, I got a lot of stuff done.

00:24:15.000 But it was only because I was speaking on behalf of Donald Trump.

00:24:20.000 They feared and respected him.

00:24:23.000 And what would have been your strategy for the Wall Street Journal reporter?

00:24:29.000 What could they have done differently?

00:24:32.000 Would it simply be if Trump was in there, Putin would have been far more willing to send the guy back?

00:24:40.000 Simple as that?

00:24:42.000 Yeah.

00:24:43.000 Look, part of that, part of it is, you know, we've got tools of national power that you understand, Peter, in the sanctions world.

00:24:49.000 Yeah.

00:24:50.000 We've got military tools.

00:24:52.000 We've got diplomatic tools that we can use to leverage other governments to exceed our will when it comes to hostages.

00:25:02.000 Because, look, I'm not suggesting that it might make sure that the U.S. bully other governments, but when they wrongfully detain an American, that really goes to the essence of American first.

00:25:13.000 You're basically saying, we're targeting this person just because he's a U.S. citizen.

00:25:18.000 Yeah.

00:25:19.000 And Trump wouldn't put up with that.

00:25:20.000 And so we would, you know, I remember in one case we told a government that we were going to, you know, basically put tariffs on them and take their stock market the next day if his hostage didn't come home.

00:25:31.000 We did that on more than one occasion.

00:25:33.000 And guess what?

00:25:34.000 The hostage always came home.

00:25:35.000 That might work.

00:25:36.000 Yeah.

00:25:37.000 The hostage always came home.

00:25:38.000 Sir, you are a great American.

00:25:43.000 You did a great job first in hostage negotiation and then as a national security advisor.

00:25:50.000 You've taught America today the lesson that you don't incentivize the taking of innocent Americans like Biden, Harris does.

00:25:59.000 We're going to let you go.

00:26:00.000 Thanks for coming on.

00:26:02.000 We're going to get you back in the room.

00:26:04.000 Yeah.

00:26:05.000 One of the purposes I had the lesson was working with you and we got a lot done with China and other countries.

00:26:09.000 And you did a great job for the president.

00:26:11.000 So thank you for your service.

00:26:13.000 All right, my brother, you take care of yourself.

00:26:16.000 Take care.

00:26:17.000 All right.

00:26:21.000 Camera look right in my eyes.

00:26:24.000 Morning Joe.

00:26:25.000 Morning Joe.

00:26:29.000 Rachel Maddow.

00:26:31.000 Chris Cuomo.

00:26:34.000 Aaron Burnett.

00:26:35.000 And all you other left wing liberals.

00:26:38.000 If you are out there today celebrating in any way the return of the hostages from Russia without pointing out that Harris and Biden have simply incentivized the taking of innocent Americans, not just in Russia, but around the world.

00:27:06.000 Because they are so weak and so ready for political reasons to bend the knee and exchange innocent Americans for guilty, guilty Russians and maybe now Chinese or Venice, whatever. 0.76

00:27:27.000 Shame on you, you lefties. 0.99

00:27:30.000 You need to talk about this as honestly as you talked about Biden's fecklessness and diminished mental capacity. 0.99

00:27:39.000 This hostage deal stinks.

00:27:42.000 They should get nothing from it politically.

00:27:45.000 And the Wall Street Journal.

00:27:48.000 Go at yourself.

00:27:50.000 OK, because you put me in prison as you celebrated that.

00:27:56.000 Navarro in the war room.

00:27:58.000 In the war room.

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00:29:39.000 Stable equilibrium they've gotten the economy into.

00:29:42.000 They got to keep the stock market and real estate market up through the election because it's the upper end of Americans who are powering the economy because the bottom 50% is you and I have talked about are getting crushed.

00:29:54.000 The inflation is absolutely destroying our middle class, our working class, virtually every class.

00:30:02.000 Inflation is a disaster in our country.

00:30:05.000 Young people, young black people, they don't have the American dream anymore. 1.00

00:30:10.000 They can't buy a house.

00:30:11.000 They can't borrow the money because of the cost of the money.

00:30:14.000 They can't buy it because of the cost of housing, because of the cost to build it, because of inflation.

00:30:19.000 Inflation is a disaster and it's destroying our country and it's destroying the black community probably as much. 1.00

00:30:28.000 So the vice president Harris was the deciding vote for the American rescue plan and the inflation reduction act.

00:30:37.000 Yes, that's right.

00:30:38.000 So she owns those. 0.70

00:30:39.000 They would not have passed.

00:30:40.000 It was 50-50.

00:30:41.000 She broke the tie. 0.60

00:30:42.000 Yes, she did.

00:30:43.000 Those caused the great inflation.

00:30:45.000 She was the border czar.

00:30:47.000 That immigration. 1.00

00:30:48.000 So, you know, I've talked about interest rates, inflation and immigration are the things killing working class America. 0.98

00:30:55.000 Tell me which one of those she doesn't own.

00:30:57.000 Yeah, well, she's walking away from all of it.

00:30:59.000 Down.

00:31:00.000 So when I see that, the long end is still moving in a different sort of fashion.

00:31:05.000 That tells me that there's a stagflationary whiff here.

00:31:08.000 Now, people might be rolling their eyes, but let's look at it for what it is.

00:31:12.000 We are probably going to settle out somewhere between two and a half and three percent on inflation.

00:31:17.000 I think growth, I think growth is going to continue to slow down.

00:31:21.000 So we're going to have a form of stagflation.

00:31:23.000 Now, it's not going to be double digit, but it's not going to be pretty.

00:31:28.000 Not going to be pretty at all.

00:31:31.000 Hey, you'd think that was a cold open.

00:31:34.000 It was actually my read for Birch Gold.

00:31:37.000 I mean, look, I'm supposed to be doing a read on Birch Gold talking about why.

00:31:42.000 Okay, just watch that clip.

00:31:45.000 Inflation.

00:31:46.000 Birch Gold.

00:31:47.000 It's, you know, it's like gold is a hedge against inflation.

00:31:52.000 Go to birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.

00:31:56.000 Birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.

00:32:00.000 And the cool thing about it is you can move your IRA or 401k into physical gold without paying any taxes.

00:32:07.000 But this is the world that we live in.

00:32:11.000 And this is the setup for one of the favorite guests of mine.

00:32:16.000 Whenever I get a chance to host the war room, I usually give Richard Barris a call.

00:32:23.000 And the way I want to set the discussion up with Richard is if we're going to win this election going into November,

00:32:31.000 I think we've got to abandon this whole BS about attacking the personal characteristics in any way of Kamala Harris.

00:32:46.000 The whole slut shaming stuff, the this, the that, the cackle, the DEI. 0.78

00:32:53.000 No, no, no, no. 0.99

00:32:54.000 No, no, no.

00:32:55.000 It's like, don't go there. 0.96

00:32:57.000 Don't do that, especially if you're an old white guy like me. 0.87

00:33:01.000 OK, you don't need to do that. 0.87

00:33:03.000 You're just going to alienate the people we need, which are women, women, women, women. 1.00

00:33:11.000 Don't go there.

00:33:12.000 We beat them on policy.

00:33:15.000 And it's the seven deadly sins of Kamala Harris, who now owns everything Joe Biden has done because she says she supports it.

00:33:28.000 And my thesis here is if we just go after him on policy, Donald Trump beats them by double digits on every single of the seven deadly sins that are in the heads and eyes of the voters.

00:33:47.640 OK, at the top, as that clip just showed, it's the economy.

00:33:51.640 Then you've got the border.

00:33:52.640 Then you've got foreign policy.

00:33:54.640 Then you've got crime.

00:33:55.640 Then you've got the weaponization of the justice system.

00:33:58.640 And then you've got the woke world of Kamala and the squad and all of those folks.

00:34:04.640 OK, let's beat them on policy.

00:34:08.640 Throw a little plug in from my book, The New Maga Deal, newmagadeal.com.

00:34:13.640 Thirty seven chapters, 100 actions in 100 days.

00:34:17.640 It's all policy.

00:34:19.640 It's all policy.

00:34:21.640 I'm not talking about Willie Brown in California.

00:34:24.640 I'm talking about Kamala supporting Joe Biden's Bidenomics and opposing things like fracking.

00:34:33.640 All right.

00:34:34.640 That's my intro.

00:34:36.640 If we had sound effects here, we do a little drum roll.

00:34:41.640 Richard Barris, let's bring Richard Barris in.

00:34:44.640 My brother, how are you today, sir?

00:34:46.640 Living the dream, Peter.

00:34:48.640 And I think it's the first time we've done this since you've been back, man.

00:34:51.640 I'm so glad.

00:34:52.640 I'm so glad to see you.

00:34:53.640 And you look good.

00:34:54.640 Look great.

00:34:56.640 I look marvelous for my age and for just coming out of prison.

00:35:00.640 You're a warrior.

00:35:01.640 You're a warrior.

00:35:02.640 You're a warrior.

00:35:03.640 Well, and we got a war on our hands, brother.

00:35:07.640 And we got complacent, even though smart guys like you and me and Bannon knew that Biden

00:35:14.640 wasn't going to be the nominee all along.

00:35:17.640 I said that back in January, an article in The Washington Times.

00:35:20.640 I don't know why we engage in such hubris, but I actually think Kamala is going to be easier to beat than Joe Biden once the dust settles.

00:35:34.640 And once we flush her out on policy, because the one thing Biden had now hear this left wing. 0.98

00:35:41.640 The one thing Biden had was that patina, that veneer that he was somehow the kid from Scranton that had some kind of empathy for the working class manufacturing workers.

00:35:55.640 It was untrue, but somehow he was able to pull that magic trick off.

00:36:02.640 You look at him and then you look and listen to Kamala Harris.

00:36:08.640 She's got about as much empathy for black, brown and blue collar Americans as Putin does for Wall Street Journal reporters.

00:36:16.640 All right.

00:36:17.640 Tell us now whether I'm right or wrong.

00:36:21.640 I want you to go through the issues.

00:36:24.640 Let's start with the inflation and the economy and let's work our way down.

00:36:30.640 You tell me what you're seeing.

00:36:32.640 Start with the economy.

00:36:34.640 OK, with the economy, first and foremost, that we just had a jobs report out today.

00:36:39.640 So, you know, I just want to I just want to preface this by saying that I agree with you 100 percent.

00:36:44.640 The policy is the direction here.

00:36:46.640 And I myself have always said, you know, that she has things in her past that that make her vulnerable.

00:36:50.640 But that's I mean, when we talk to voters, Peter, and we've been asking them this for months and months and months, it doesn't matter whether Kamala Harris is the nominee or Joe Biden is the nominee.

00:36:59.640 The reason why voters who told us they want Trump back who are truly swing voters is because of his competency on the economy.

00:37:06.640 And inflation and cost of living is going away the number one issue for voters going to November.

00:37:12.640 And then the economy is number two or immigration.

00:37:15.640 It switches up.

00:37:16.640 And this month it did again.

00:37:18.640 And then number number four has actually, you know, been this battle between abortion and to and the threats that from lawfare and, you know, to democracy and the idea of, you know, our system of government really.

00:37:33.640 So that's what we have seen for months now.

00:37:36.640 And Trump leads on every issue.

00:37:38.640 But abortion, of course, when we're talking about those issues.

00:37:41.640 So and also there's this.

00:37:43.640 Hang on one second.

00:37:45.640 Let's let's unpack something you just said, because because you said abortion, but you all said lawfare.

00:37:52.640 Yes.

00:37:53.640 Yeah.

00:37:54.640 So those are two different things.

00:37:56.640 Are they able to successfully turn the tables on us on the lawfare thing is like we're the bad guys or or is there recognition that they're waging using the Justice Department and the tools of government to put people like me and Steve Bannon in prison and and interfere with the Trump's election?

00:38:19.640 If you ask people two years ago about threats to democracy, for instance.

00:38:24.640 Right. Because we do word it both ways.

00:38:26.640 So we're like we're speaking the language of the left and the right.

00:38:29.640 So we don't leave anybody out.

00:38:30.640 And that's the better way to get, you know, a gauge on public opinion.

00:38:33.640 But if you would ask two years ago, somebody would it would have been an anti Republican or anti Trump sentiment because they would have thought in their mind about January 6th.

00:38:43.640 Once they started to do this lawfare, engage in this lawfare, it flipped.

00:38:48.640 And that's why Donald Trump actually leads when we ask people, who do you trust more on when it comes to, you know, lawfare, preserving democracy, corruption in the government, you know, targeting political opponents.

00:39:00.640 Biden lost that. Democrats in general lost that lead.

00:39:04.640 You know, I would say it was probably around eight months ago.

00:39:07.640 What happened about eight months ago? Right.

00:39:09.640 So that's because what's what's the spread?

00:39:14.640 It was a spread.

00:39:15.640 It's pretty close.

00:39:16.640 I don't know. I gave I did throw the I did throw the the chart up.

00:39:20.640 I don't know if the producer has it, but it's a couple of points and it's about two.

00:39:25.640 And I think it's two points this month.

00:39:27.640 And it's very close.

00:39:28.640 But I mean, Peter would would have been Biden plus 20, you know, eight months ago there.

00:39:33.640 Yeah, that's the overall.

00:39:35.640 But, you know, when we asked the trust first issues, which is down a little bit, it's preserving democracy, threats to democracy, corruption.

00:39:43.640 That's that category.

00:39:44.640 He leads 44 to 42.

00:39:46.640 And that would have been, again, a negative spread for the Republicans or and Donald Trump in general in eight months.

00:39:54.640 So are the Democrats are the Democrats kind of behind the curve now because they keep pushing the theme of Trump as a threat to democracy?

00:40:05.640 If they have they kind of like not figured out that all the attacks on Trump and people like me and Bannon have actually helped make that issue either go away, I guess, because it's a wash now or moving in Trump's favor.

00:40:19.640 I think they keep pushing on that one.

00:40:22.640 I think they're trying to wake their base up because their base was in a low.

00:40:26.640 They were in a malaise until they dumped Biden.

00:40:28.640 The base was in a malaise.

00:40:30.640 So they were just trying to wake them up.

00:40:32.640 Do you remember in 2012, a lot of Republican strategists couldn't understand why Obama was going in some of the directions he was going.

00:40:38.640 And then when the electorate came out in November, it was just hyped with them.

00:40:43.640 It was D plus five electorate.

00:40:44.640 He gave up on appealing to the middle.

00:40:46.640 He lost independence to Mitt Romney.

00:40:48.640 And he said, I got to drive out turnout with black women. 1.00

00:40:51.640 Right. Urban voters, younger voters. 0.82

00:40:53.640 They got to come out.

00:40:54.640 Yeah, I got it.

00:40:55.640 It's my base.

00:40:56.640 He gave up on winning the persuadable voter.

00:40:58.640 I really think that's what Democrats have been trying to do for months now, for months.

00:41:03.640 And let me just say, I would run an ad right now just to give them a little free advice.

00:41:08.640 I would run a clip of the Olympic boxer getting her head beaten in by a man in the in the ring.

00:41:14.640 And then I would and then I would follow it up with Kamala supporting men, biological men in women's sports. 1.00

00:41:21.640 And then I would obviously have a clip of Trump saying that he does not.

00:41:24.640 I mean, this is low hanging.

00:41:26.640 Oh, and it's better than that.

00:41:27.640 Let me let me give you a talking point, which my lovely fiance came up with.

00:41:33.640 Because we were watching that boxing thing and then somehow another clip came on where Kamala is sitting there and she's advocating for prisoners, male prisoners to have sex change operations. 1.00

00:41:50.640 And then my fiance says, oh, well, that's her her kind of prison reform. 0.99

00:41:55.640 So it's kind of like, like, I mean, yeah, but it's like I was looking at that.

00:42:03.640 It's like she's sitting there advocating.

00:42:06.640 She's like animated saying saying we've got to get these these male prisoners the ability to have sex change operations in our prisons. 1.00

00:42:15.640 It's like, what? Yeah, that's prison reform in Kamala's world. 1.00

00:42:19.640 Anyway, you're right about that.

00:42:21.640 That ad, I think that go ahead should be out right now.

00:42:24.640 I don't know what's, you know, what are they waiting for?

00:42:27.640 I mean, we're debating whether or not Kamala's Jamaican or Indian or whatever.

00:42:31.640 I mean, look, let Peter Schweitzer handle that stuff.

00:42:34.640 That isn't for the campaign to deal with.

00:42:36.640 Let the media, the surrogates or whatever handle that.

00:42:39.640 You stay focused on policy.

00:42:41.640 People aren't, they don't want, you know, they're not telling pollsters.

00:42:44.640 I'm looking back at the time of Donald Trump and giving him a 52% approval rating now, something we haven't found in years.

00:42:51.640 They're not doing that because Kamala Harris is Jamaican pretending to be African American. 1.00

00:42:56.640 They're doing that because they remember the Trump economy.

00:42:59.640 They remember the peace deals in the Middle East.

00:43:01.640 They remember there was no new wars. 0.96

00:43:03.640 They remember peace and prosperity and not jobs reports that look like trash like this today.

00:43:09.640 That's what they remember.

00:43:10.640 And the rest of this is a waste of time.

00:43:12.640 I'm sorry to sound so nasty about it, but it's a little bit annoying.

00:43:16.640 No, no, no, this is, this is the theme of the day, sir.

00:43:20.640 And you remember, you remember Clinton, famous Clinton thing. 1.00

00:43:24.640 It's the economy, stupid. 1.00

00:43:25.640 Okay. 1.00

00:43:26.640 So Navarro's version of that, probably Barris' it's policy, stupid. 1.00

00:43:32.640 It's policies. 1.00

00:43:33.640 All right.

00:43:34.640 We'll be right back with the great Richard Barris.

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00:44:45.640 You're Kay Navarro in for Stephen Kay Bannon.

00:44:54.640 We're here with the great pollster, Richard Barris.

00:44:58.640 And I'm going to, we were talking off the air, apparently on the abortion issue.

00:45:06.640 Kamala is, that's the only thing that Kamala has a significant lead on with Trump.

00:45:13.640 So, Mr. Barris, here's the question.

00:45:18.640 Is there a message that the Trump campaign can use to narrow that gap?

00:45:28.640 Or is it simply that we beat her so badly on everything else, economy, inflation, border security, foreign policy, and so on,

00:45:43.640 that that will be sufficient to offset her advantage in the abortion thing? 1.00

00:45:49.640 So you're sitting around now with the boss and some of his campaign aides.

00:45:54.640 What is, what is Richard Barris say at this point?

00:45:58.640 I do advocate for a more aggressive strategy on abortion. 0.96

00:46:02.640 I do think you really have to beat her on everything else because the gap is 14 points and you don't have that much time to turn that around.

00:46:09.640 But Donald Trump is not in the position, while he is negative when it comes to that, you know, who do you trust to handle more?

00:46:16.640 He's not as bad as some of the other candidates would have been, like very deep holes.

00:46:21.640 Ron DeSantis, for instance, trying to win Iowa, so taking the traditional Ted Cruz position.

00:46:26.640 That's bad.

00:46:27.640 Republicans in state legislatures around the country really hurt the party message by going too early with the abortion limitations.

00:46:35.640 And I did send you for, to review later, you should check it out.

00:46:38.640 I sent you a deep dive in abortion that we did and we've been doing, where we ask people whether they're pro-life or pro-choice.

00:46:45.640 And then we ask them where they support limitations, if they do at all.

00:46:49.640 And the Democratic position, even for pro-choice people, is a radical position.

00:46:54.640 And I think Trump has done better than any Republican candidate on explaining that to the American public.

00:47:00.640 So if there is a debate.

00:47:01.640 What do you mean by that?

00:47:02.640 Are you talking about the late, just no, just late term, whatever, that kind of stuff?

00:47:08.640 A majority consensus develops when you're talking about a period when people argue babies can feel pain, which is about 20 weeks, right?

00:47:18.640 Yeah, 20 weeks, I believe it is, something like that.

00:47:22.640 The heartbeat is not a consensus.

00:47:24.640 Key question here.

00:47:27.640 Key question here.

00:47:28.640 On that 14-point gap, is it all women? 0.98

00:47:31.640 I mean, what's the male-female split on pro-choice?

00:47:36.640 It's not all women.

00:47:37.640 It's not.

00:47:38.640 The most pro-choice, I would say, or the most abortionist radical voter in this country is a white-educated liberal male.

00:47:48.640 And this is one of the biggest misconceptions you hear from the media.

00:47:52.640 You think about that, there's like an incentive in there.

00:47:56.640 Yes, there is an incentive for white men who are liberals who don't want to take care of their own offspring.

00:48:03.640 That's what this is.

00:48:04.640 There's no nice way to put this.

00:48:06.640 These are guys who are looking at Plan C, all right? 0.99

00:48:09.640 And they hide behind civil rights as a way to cover up their crap. 0.99

00:48:15.640 And it's very interesting. 0.99

00:48:17.640 Don't have to use condoms.

00:48:18.640 Yeah, when you look at why people support abortion, it's very interesting.

00:48:23.640 Black voters, black women specifically, they look at it as an economic issue almost because they're on that part of the socioeconomic ladder. 1.00

00:48:32.640 But white women give awful reasons for why they do support abortion, even later term abortion. 1.00

00:48:39.640 I mean, it's hard to listen to and complete the research, you know?

00:48:42.640 I don't want to ruin my body.

00:48:43.640 Such as?

00:48:44.640 I want to finish school.

00:48:45.640 You know, it's awful.

00:48:47.640 Oh, interesting.

00:48:48.640 Interesting.

00:48:49.640 Everyone has their own reason for it.

00:48:51.640 But Republicans shot the moon and that hurt the overall brands, you know, the overall party's brand on that.

00:48:59.640 Whereas Donald Trump is in the much more tenable position of being, you know, against late term abortion, but not being seen as someone who wants to, you know, eradicate it altogether.

00:49:10.640 And you really, that's the only way to win a national election at this point.

00:49:14.640 Abortion, the right has to understand, it took decades to give people these views.

00:49:20.640 It's going to take decades to undo it.

00:49:22.640 Where does the J.D. Vance card factor into that issue?

00:49:29.640 You know, I don't think it really does at this point.

00:49:33.640 Not yet, anyway.

00:49:34.640 Okay.

00:49:35.640 J.D. Vance was still largely unknown by most of the voters that we asked.

00:49:38.640 You know, I'm in the school of thought where vice presidential nominees don't really have that much of an impact.

00:49:44.640 The top of the ticket has got to carry it on their own.

00:49:47.640 They can reinforce, you know, they can reinforce the top of the ticket.

00:49:51.640 J.D. Vance is from the Midwest.

00:49:53.640 He appeals to that, you know, that working man.

00:49:55.640 He's got that working man's message.

00:49:57.640 I mean, look at his movie just shot to the top of Netflix again.

00:50:00.640 People are trying to get to know him and get to know who he is.

00:50:03.640 And the media is going after him to try to head that off because they know that's a Midwest message.

00:50:09.640 So I think if you agree with this, see if you agree with this is advice for the Vance campaign.

00:50:16.640 J.D. has to realize he's in a general election, not a primary.

00:50:22.640 If he never mentioned family values or the choice issue again and simply focused on his core onshore manufacturing to the Midwest message and ran as a governor's race in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, that would be his optimal strategy.

00:50:51.640 Do you agree or disagree?

00:50:52.640 No, I do agree with that.

00:50:53.640 Look at his own state.

00:50:55.640 You know, you can see the Trump, the Obama Trump counties that voted for that proposition.

00:51:01.640 Abortion did, you know, and an effort to restrict abortion that much did not do well in his own state.

00:51:07.640 Right. So I think the right saw an opportunity and they really jumped the gun too fast, too soon.

00:51:13.640 Just stick to if you want to talk about abortion, just stick to late term abortion, because even a majority of pro-choice voters oppose late term abortion.

00:51:22.640 And the right always gets sucked into this.

00:51:25.640 That's why Trump is brilliant when he turns to Hillary and says, you want to rip babies out of the womb, Hillary. 0.99

00:51:30.640 And when he turns to Biden and says, you're the radical one, you want to kill babies before right the day before birth. 0.99

00:51:35.640 That's all you have to do. 0.99

00:51:37.640 Leave the rest alone. 0.95

00:51:38.640 Yeah.

00:51:39.640 Leave the rest alone. 0.95

00:51:40.640 OK.

00:51:41.640 Yeah.

00:51:42.640 Otherwise, you scare people, Peter.

00:51:44.640 So we agree we agree that that that Trump wins on policy.

00:51:50.640 We've established that there's no question about it.

00:51:53.640 Oh, no doubt.

00:51:54.640 And honestly, abortion is the number four issue right now.

00:51:58.640 Last month, it was number five.

00:52:00.640 I'm I'm wondering whether or not it's a simple response bias that put it in a number four.

00:52:04.640 More Democrats were were willing to talk to pollsters this month.

00:52:08.640 I think that's very important.

00:52:10.640 I'm not saying simply we had 20 seconds here, Richard.

00:52:13.640 Quick, quick answer.

00:52:14.640 Yes or no.

00:52:15.640 What about simply saying it's a state's issue now, not a not a federal one with the overturning Roe v. Wade?

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00:52:23.640 Done.

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Bannon's War Room - August 02, 2024

Episode 3802： WarRoom Special： The Kamala Krash

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