Bannon's War Room - Episode 3818： Michael Anton & Brian Kennedy On Threats To 2024 Election, Deconstructing Deep State

00:00:00.000 Do you think that the imprisonment of Steve Bannon was politically motivated?

00:00:03.380 Yeah. Oh, absolutely.

00:00:04.880 Mr. President, Mr. President.

00:00:06.860 Because other people have done far bigger things than Steve Bannon.

00:00:10.580 Sure, it's politically motivated.

00:00:12.240 I think it's a horrible thing they did.

00:00:14.140 Look, they've weaponized government against me.

00:00:17.560 Look at the Florida case.

00:00:18.720 It was a totally weaponized case.

00:00:21.300 All of these cases.

00:00:22.300 By the way, the New York cases are totally controlled out of the Department of Justice.

00:00:27.680 They sent their top person to the various places.

00:00:32.480 They went to the AG's office, got that one going.

00:00:34.980 Then he went to the DA's office, got that one going, ran through it.

00:00:38.800 No, no, this is all politics, and it's a disgrace.

00:00:41.880 Never happened in this country.

00:00:43.440 It's very common that it happens, but not in our country.

00:00:46.740 It happens in banana republics and third world countries, and that's what we're becoming. 1.00

00:00:51.580 We have no borders.

00:00:52.620 We have bad voting regulations.

00:00:54.200 Anytime you have mail-in ballots, you're going to have problems.

00:00:56.820 France learned that lesson.

00:00:58.920 You know, France had all mail-in voting, and they went back to paper ballots, voter identification,

00:01:04.920 voter ID.

00:01:05.600 They went back to a normal system, one-day voting.

00:01:09.060 They don't want to be around, you know, voting for 64 days.

00:01:12.400 And look, the election, I keep talking about November 5th, but the election really starts

00:01:16.920 on September 6th.

00:01:17.820 That's when it starts, because it's early voting.

00:01:20.920 We should have one-day voting.

00:01:22.720 We should have paper ballots. 0.96

00:01:24.120 We should have voter ID, and we should have proof of citizenship.

00:01:26.920 Please.

00:01:27.100 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:01:34.760 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:01:39.980 Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:01:44.240 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:01:46.140 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:01:47.560 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to

00:01:49.820 stop it.

00:01:50.260 It's going to happen.

00:01:51.320 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:01:54.940 MAGA Media.

00:01:56.300 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:02:01.720 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:02:05.480 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:02:11.880 War Room.

00:02:12.680 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:02:14.660 Welcome to the War Room.

00:02:22.520 It's Natalie G.

00:02:23.260 Winters hosting, filling in for Stephen K.

00:02:26.180 Bannon today, Thursday, August 8th, in the year of our Lord, 2024.

00:02:30.940 Coming at you live from California.

00:02:33.480 I know.

00:02:34.000 Pray for me.

00:02:34.680 But I'm honored to be doing a special edition of War Room today.

00:02:38.580 You guys know I've been doing my Lincoln Fellowship with the Claremont Institute.

00:02:41.860 Steve was so happy that I was doing that, so I'm honored to be able to be juggling that

00:02:46.160 while concurrently hosting the show.

00:02:48.060 We've been holding it down nicely so far, but today I am joined by two of the leading

00:02:53.880 voices within the sort of Claremont orbit.

00:02:56.640 And I kind of wanted to do a special show today where we focus, I think, on what President

00:03:01.520 Trump was talking about in that opening clip, the weaponization of government, specifically,

00:03:06.220 I think, when it comes to the administration, or frankly, lack thereof, of elections.

00:03:10.100 And we're going to focus on that with Brian Kennedy and Michael Anton, but also the other

00:03:15.260 side of the coin, which is the weaponization of government in terms of trying to make a

00:03:19.840 potential Trump victory, what is, I think, fair to say a Pyrrhic victory in the sense

00:03:24.020 that you see the administrative state already sort of, you know, holding on to power, not

00:03:28.980 wanting to, as Steve always says, hand over the keys to the castle, the keys to the kingdom

00:03:33.560 just because we win come November.

00:03:36.740 So, Brian Kennedy, I'm honored to have you on, former president of the Claremont Institute,

00:03:42.840 senior fellow board member.

00:03:43.960 You always have great words in the American mind, basically anywhere you write, anytime

00:03:48.260 you're on War Room.

00:03:49.000 I know the posse loves you.

00:03:51.080 And I want you to introduce our next guest.

00:03:53.100 It's been a while, Michael, since you've been here on the War Room, but we're always happy

00:03:56.100 to have you on.

00:03:57.860 Thank you.

00:03:58.360 Thank you, Natalie.

00:04:00.300 You're doing a great job, let me just say, as a co-host.

00:04:03.020 I talk to people all over the country, and they are thrilled anytime you are on.

00:04:08.500 The Claremont Institute's been around for 45 years now, and it has been talking about the

00:04:13.880 principles of the American founding and saying the things about the country that really matter

00:04:18.940 to Americans if they're going to save this country.

00:04:21.820 And one of our leading intellectuals is Michael Anton, and Michael's part of the faculty.

00:04:29.340 You'll be listening to Natalie in the coming days.

00:04:32.780 And he's an old friend of mine.

00:04:34.380 He was a Publius fellow of the Claremont Institute, I think, in 1993.

00:04:39.460 But he's a very accomplished political professional, has worked for Governor Pete Wilson in California,

00:04:47.220 George W. Bush, Rudy Giuliani, and then President Trump during the Trump administration on the

00:04:56.100 National Security Council.

00:04:58.300 He is also an author of a book called The Stakes, which if you haven't read it, I'd highly

00:05:04.000 recommend, but also maybe most famous for the Flight 93 essay, which he wrote in 2016, 2015,

00:05:12.600 2016, where he was laying out the case for President Trump in that most important election.

00:05:19.220 And it's a real privilege to have him join the show with us here today, Natalie.

00:05:23.480 And thank you, Michael, for joining us.

00:05:26.100 You're welcome.

00:05:26.620 Yeah, Publius fellow in 94.

00:05:27.960 And the Flight 93 election was September 5th, 2016, about two months almost to the day

00:05:34.520 before the election.

00:05:36.280 Wow.

00:05:36.880 So I want to get into all that.

00:05:38.440 But, Brian, I want to start with you.

00:05:39.800 You have a wonderful piece up in the American mind, the diminishing likelihood of a fair election.

00:05:45.800 And you walk through what I think are the most pressing crises when it comes to what we're

00:05:50.900 barreling towards with the early voting beginning and what, just under 40 days.

00:05:55.100 Can you kind of walk us through the broad outline of the piece?

00:06:00.080 Yeah, well, thank you, Natalie.

00:06:01.520 And I think President Trump suggested it when he was at that press conference, mail-in ballots.

00:06:08.260 And my concern is that we have not done in the country anything or near anything or not nearly

00:06:17.700 enough to make sure that there is going to be a fair election and that the mail-in ballots

00:06:24.220 are not going to be decisive.

00:06:26.080 And in this piece, you know, I'm chairman of the Committee on the Present Danger China, 0.97

00:06:30.420 something which I founded with Steve Bannon and Frank Gaffney.

00:06:34.620 In that, I focus on communist China and whether communist China can play a role in the 2024

00:06:40.380 election.

00:06:41.080 It's my own personal view that in 2020, COVID-19 was used to fundamentally alter our politics

00:06:48.800 and push the entire nation toward mail-in ballots, and that in 2020, that was decisive in stealing

00:06:55.180 the election.

00:06:56.280 My worry is that in 2024, the communist Chinese, which is a nation state that spends annually here 1.00

00:07:06.140 in the United States $16 billion on intelligence and influence operations, that they could use

00:07:12.840 a fraction of that budget and in those seven swing states around the country, produce, you

00:07:19.400 know, in warehouses that they have throughout those swing states.

00:07:22.380 They have printers.

00:07:24.000 They have the paper that's being used.

00:07:25.660 They have access to the voter rolls.

00:07:28.160 They have access to the ballots themselves, which are PDFs, which you can download online.

00:07:33.740 And they're a nation state with an amazing intelligence service.

00:07:37.600 They could acquire the signatures through artificial intelligence of everyone that was voting.

00:07:44.120 And then you pick off a million people.

00:07:46.520 This is, again, a worst-case scenario, but they would take a million people who never vote

00:07:50.660 but who are on the voter rolls and produce a million perfect-looking counterfeit ballots,

00:07:56.640 insert them into the system, and try to decide the election.

00:07:59.480 Now, I think the idea that they wouldn't do that or that's completely off the table would

00:08:05.500 be naive.

00:08:06.420 That certainly has to be something that's on the table.

00:08:09.840 Is that going to be something that can be stopped?

00:08:12.840 I don't think so, unfortunately.

00:08:15.580 We will do our best, but I don't see that we have enough lawyers or enough people on the

00:08:20.800 ground making sure that cannot happen, which means that if President Trump is going to win,

00:08:26.120 he is going to have to have such an overwhelming number of people who vote for him that, in

00:08:32.320 fact, it's going to be too big to rig.

00:08:34.740 I don't think today, just given the polls, it is yet too big to rig.

00:08:40.860 So a lot of work is going to be needed to be done by the Trump campaign if they're going

00:08:46.380 to get to that point.

00:08:47.780 We've not secured these elections, is my fundamental point.

00:08:50.820 And we're at a war with a nation state in communist China that would certainly like to have someone 0.99

00:08:56.440 like Kamala Harris and what looks like their man in Minnesota, Tim Walz, as the next president

00:09:04.640 and vice president.

00:09:05.980 Well, I think it raises the sort of perennial question of the Biden regime, right?

00:09:09.640 Is it intentional or is it incompetent when it comes to the failures to secure these elections?

00:09:14.000 When you look, whether it's DHS, CISA, FBI, the DOJ, they're more concerned with censoring

00:09:19.020 Americans.

00:09:19.640 And that brings me to you, Michael.

00:09:21.480 You know, Brian, you make the point in the piece, right?

00:09:23.560 Of course, you've got China declaring a people's war in 2019, unrestricted warfare for decades.

00:09:28.300 And if you look at Chinese military strategy, you know, I'm always inclined to go back to

00:09:32.020 the three warfares doctrine.

00:09:33.300 What is it?

00:09:34.200 Lawfare, psychological warfare, public opinion warfare.

00:09:38.040 I mean, you could make the same case that the United States, I mean, I would say CISA most

00:09:42.140 poignantly, is using similar tactics against the American people.

00:09:46.040 So on the sort of domestic side of election interference at best, outright election rigging

00:09:51.280 at worst, what do you think is the kind of state of affairs when it comes to the threat

00:09:55.620 posed domestically by how our elections are being run here by the administrative state,

00:09:59.940 by these rogue agencies?

00:10:02.300 Well, the old saying goes that in Washington or in politics generally, if ever you have to

00:10:07.740 choose between, you know, deliberate malfeasance and incompetence, incompetence is always

00:10:11.740 the right answer.

00:10:12.820 This is one of the great exceptions, it seems to me.

00:10:14.800 I think it's entirely deliberate what they're doing.

00:10:17.120 And it's genius in a way.

00:10:20.660 First of all, we don't know.

00:10:22.600 And I think that's by design.

00:10:23.760 None of this stuff ever really gets investigated so that you have a firm conclusion.

00:10:27.560 So what they do is they pursue policies across the board of laxity.

00:10:32.160 Let's just make sure that we make it as easy as possible for anybody to vote.

00:10:35.080 Same-day registration, no ID required, you know, non-citizen voting, you name it, across

00:10:40.320 the board, you know, ballot harvesting, let's let people go to nursing homes and just walk 0.95

00:10:45.540 the halls with ballots and so on.

00:10:47.240 All of these things have become impossible to verify.

00:10:49.680 Then there doesn't have to be, in a way, a central committee dictating this or running

00:10:54.980 it.

00:10:55.220 Once it's known that this is a lax process, you can count on precinct captains and local

00:11:01.300 party figures to just do what they're naturally going to do.

00:11:06.720 You get the outcome you want and the other side howls.

00:11:10.340 You use your state, you know, the incumbents in office that you, you know, if the Democrat

00:11:15.920 is a secretary of state or if the secretary of state is a Democrat, the state attorney general

00:11:19.260 is a Democrat, and so on down the line.

00:11:20.760 You make sure that they block any serious investigation and or conduct cursory, desultory, fast investigation

00:11:26.800 and say, we found no fraud here.

00:11:28.440 This is all crazy conspiracy talk.

00:11:30.120 You close the books on the thing.

00:11:31.680 You say, well, you know, this person's taking office anyway.

00:11:34.940 It's all moot now.

00:11:35.700 We can't get this sorted out in five weeks.

00:11:37.400 You move on and you, you know, lather, rinse, repeat, as the saying goes.

00:11:40.340 So the laxity is absolutely deliberate.

00:11:42.580 The one thing that I'm more skeptical of, or at least I just, I lack information, is whether

00:11:46.900 there is, and I doubt it, whether there is ever, you know, a conference table where they

00:11:50.800 all get together and say, okay, this is how we're going to steal the following election.

00:11:53.760 I think what they do is they just go, let's just make the law as loose as possible.

00:11:56.640 Let's make fraud as easy as possible.

00:11:59.940 And let's just sit back out, you know, we'll sort of crowdsource it, let other people do

00:12:04.360 it.

00:12:04.580 We don't even have to tell them to do it.

00:12:05.860 They don't have to tell us they're doing it.

00:12:07.520 We'll just let it happen.

00:12:08.580 And when it comes time to do anything about it, we'll make sure that we stop any effort to

00:12:12.420 look into it or to prevent it the next time.

00:12:15.200 Well, I think, you know, what you referenced sitting around war gaming, stealing an election,

00:12:19.440 I'm inclined to bring up the Transition Integrity Project, which I know you're uniquely familiar

00:12:24.240 with because their co-founder, Nils Gilman, I think, advocated, what was it, for your execution,

00:12:29.760 I think, for daring to support Trump.

00:12:33.020 Your thoughts on sort of, you know, the Transition Integrity Project, they've sort of rebranded,

00:12:38.560 but I think something that, you know, Claremont has felt uniquely that the pressure campaign

00:12:42.980 and you guys were talking yesterday at an event, they had a wonderful State of the Union

00:12:46.680 panel, I'm sure the Warren Posse would have loved to be there, but John Eastman was detailing

00:12:50.600 how part of the strategy is to intimidate lawyers so much so that there's no one on our

00:12:56.240 side who can bring cases to challenge what they're doing.

00:13:00.160 Can you walk us through the lawfare side of things, Michael?

00:13:03.560 Well, on the Transition Integrity Project, that's more sinister than what I just described.

00:13:08.560 So if you go back to the 2000 effort that they put together, and I don't even know what

00:13:14.940 they changed their name to, but it's the same group of people, and then they leaked a bunch

00:13:18.600 of stories about it.

00:13:19.940 What they were planning for was a way to use their control of NGOs, the media, foundations,

00:13:26.860 and even state power if necessary, and even the military if necessary, to prevent Donald

00:13:32.260 Trump from serving a second term, even if on election night he had 270-plus electoral votes,

00:13:38.640 and so on.

00:13:39.640 They were planning to basically say, we're going to call a legitimate election illegitimate.

00:13:44.640 Now, whether they believe that in their hearts or not, I suppose, is an open question, and

00:13:48.640 it's probably a mix.

00:13:49.640 Some really did believe that there's no possibility Trump could win.

00:13:52.640 Therefore, if he won, it would have to be fraud.

00:13:54.640 Therefore, we would be justified in blocking it.

00:13:57.640 And I think others believe that, well, he might, you know, limp in with just over 270 because

00:14:02.640 there's that MAGA group out there who are insane, and they'll vote for him no matter what.

00:14:06.640 But if that were to happen, it would be such a dangerous outcome for our country that we

00:14:09.820 would be morally justified in blocking him taking office.

00:14:14.640 Now, that was a group of people getting together in a conference room, quite literally, and

00:14:18.140 plotting what they were going to do.

00:14:19.360 So, but less about the election itself and more about the aftermath.

00:14:23.900 And Michael, we have to jump to break, but we'll come back to this because, as you guys

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00:16:26.900 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:16:30.020 Bannon.

00:16:36.280 Welcome back to the War Room.

00:16:38.020 We're still coming to you live from the Claremont Institute in California.

00:16:41.160 We got Brian Kennedy and Michael Anton with us walking through all things 2024 election

00:16:47.400 pre-game, post-game, election day.

00:16:50.920 Who knows what they're going to try to pull.

00:16:52.760 They're already pushing, what is it, DDoS attacks and cybersecurity attacks.

00:16:57.560 But hey, the FBI and CISA have said, don't worry, it's not going to affect election outcomes.

00:17:03.060 Don't quite know if I believe them, but I digress.

00:17:05.980 But Michael, to pick up where you left off and I think to stress something to the audience

00:17:10.660 that they know very well, but the urgency and how now is not the time for complacency.

00:17:16.240 I mean, one of the things I said, you referenced the event we did last night, and I said to

00:17:21.240 the audience, you know, I think we all, everybody who supports the president had a feeling, had

00:17:26.140 a period of several weeks of just basically elation from his great performance at the

00:17:31.700 debate through that magnificent, unprecedented response to the assassination attempt and

00:17:36.140 through what was just a terrific convention almost from beginning to end.

00:17:40.480 And, you know, during that period, I think we all, some of us, started to feel, hey, this

00:17:47.840 is in the bag or close to it, you know.

00:17:50.000 Nobody, I don't think anybody feels like that now.

00:17:52.200 You know, we're all a little bit nervous.

00:17:53.680 The Democrats pulled off a reasonably seamless transition from one candidate to the next in

00:17:59.140 an anti or undemocratic way, to be sure, but that hardly matters.

00:18:01.960 What matters to them is that they did it.

00:18:03.780 I think they've made a bad choice for vice president that I hope the Trump campaign seizes

00:18:07.760 on, this guy's record is just abysmal, and his philosophical positions are terrible, and

00:18:12.440 his record is terrible in Minnesota.

00:18:14.060 So that's something that, you know, plays in our favor if we play it right.

00:18:18.240 But I think even if in a couple of weeks, you know, the Harris honeymoon starts to fade,

00:18:23.720 the polling, which by all accounts I've seen, you know, she's doing much better than Biden,

00:18:28.100 and some of these polls are probably fake, but they're showing her with big leads over the

00:18:31.900 president nationally and maybe even over him in six of the seven swing states or whatever,

00:18:35.960 that could go away in a couple of weeks.

00:18:38.380 And what I really caution everyone about, and I'm going to be on guard against in myself,

00:18:43.120 is let's not get back to that feeling of elation or inevitability or we have it in the bag.

00:18:47.880 I think we need to believe in our own hearts that we are underdogs, that we're five-point

00:18:53.520 underdogs right up until election day, and act like that.

00:18:57.400 Don't coast.

00:18:58.500 Don't get complacent.

00:18:59.780 Don't start to take anything for granted.

00:19:01.540 Don't measure the drapes, all of the metaphors you want, right?

00:19:04.360 Just, like, believe in your heart that you're down.

00:19:07.120 It's the fourth quarter.

00:19:08.100 There's enough time to win it, but only if you just play your heart out on every single

00:19:12.940 play, and you might scratch out a one-point victory.

00:19:16.000 I think we got to look at this like that.

00:19:17.940 And I will say, shameless plug for the war room posse, since I've been here, whether it's

00:19:23.680 the professors, the fellows, just the donors to the institute that I've met, the number

00:19:29.140 one thing they all say when they meet me is how engaged and wonderful you guys are, how

00:19:33.940 you guys truly are saving this country through the work that you do, whether it's the precinct

00:19:38.560 committee of men, your work on the RNC, your work just knocking doors.

00:19:42.240 So, truly, your efforts are really appreciated, and they're seen and heard around the world,

00:19:48.040 frankly.

00:19:49.040 So, I just wanted to share that with you guys.

00:19:52.040 I get all the things, but it's you guys.

00:19:54.260 You guys do the real legwork.

00:19:55.660 You're the real foot soldiers.

00:19:56.880 But, Brian, you and I were sort of talking about this a few days ago.

00:20:00.660 When it comes to the actual steps that we can take, right, we don't want to be complacent.

00:20:05.240 We want to go and do stuff, whether it's knocking doors.

00:20:07.760 You know, we're up against such a machine, right?

00:20:11.240 We can't out-knock what is systemic fraud.

00:20:14.800 What are some of the ideas that you guys have sort of cobbled together to push back against

00:20:19.780 this?

00:20:21.720 Yeah, well, we've been going around the country, many of the war room regulars, myself and Frank

00:20:30.940 Gatney and Karen Sigamund and John Mills and Trevor Loudon, who I know you had on yesterday.

00:20:36.300 We've been going around the country talking to all sorts of Americans on this World War

00:20:41.240 III, the early years tour that Steve had thought up several months ago.

00:20:47.560 So, we've had a chance to meet folks all over the country.

00:20:50.580 And I can tell you that there will be zero complacency around the country because nearly

00:20:57.160 everyone we speak to is really worried about this election and really worried about the

00:21:03.760 ability of the election to be stolen.

00:21:06.120 And one of the things that I'm seeing emerge is the idea that we should have a whistleblower

00:21:11.540 program around the country where cash bounties are offered to people to inform on those people

00:21:20.140 who might be trying to steal the election.

00:21:22.860 Because I think Michael is right in one way.

00:21:26.320 There may not be a central table everyone's sitting around, but there are many tables in

00:21:32.220 many parts of these states around the country where election fraud occurs.

00:21:38.560 And they don't need to all be working together if enough of them are working on it, or if a

00:21:44.560 nation state like communist China is working on it.

00:21:47.960 You need a lot of eyes on the system.

00:21:50.120 And the only way that's going to happen is if we actually have a whistleblower program and

00:21:56.080 people are capable of informing when they see fraud.

00:22:00.540 My concern is that, you know, Michael said that it was a bad choice picking Tim Walz as

00:22:08.300 the vice president.

00:22:09.920 It seems to me that she did that, Kamala Harris, out of a certain confidence she could get away

00:22:17.760 with picking the most radical possible vice presidential candidate she could.

00:22:23.920 She could have picked Josh Shapiro.

00:22:26.220 She knew she'd alienate the Muslims that she thinks she needs in the pro-Palestinian movement. 1.00

00:22:31.980 So she didn't go there.

00:22:33.940 And she may not even like Josh Shapiro that much, her being someone who has more of a pro-Palestinian

00:22:40.900 worldview.

00:22:42.360 She didn't pick Mark Kelly, the astronaut.

00:22:45.040 I think in part because that represents an older America that she really wasn't interested 0.98

00:22:50.640 in representing.

00:22:51.920 She picks the most radical communist she could find, who has been to Beijing 30 times over

00:22:59.260 the last 30 years at minimum.

00:23:02.420 Now, I think she did that because she had a certain confidence that it didn't matter who

00:23:08.100 her vice president was, because this system that is in place today, whether it's people

00:23:14.000 actively engaged in voter theft or actively, you know, capable of stealing the election

00:23:21.100 because of lax laws, she has a lot of confidence.

00:23:25.200 And you can see that confidence.

00:23:26.740 And that should be a real signal to our side that they're really going to have to work,

00:23:31.800 you know, and run through the tape, as it were, the Olympics are going on, run through

00:23:36.000 the tape if if if President Trump is actually going to win this.

00:23:40.900 I'm going to be more optimistic than Brian, which is not often.

00:23:46.940 But I actually don't think and I could be wrong.

00:23:50.120 I'm not.

00:23:50.620 You know, I freely admit I don't think she picked Tim Walz for the reason you said.

00:23:54.100 I think it was a sign of weakness that she picked Tim Walz.

00:23:56.840 I think everything I've heard reported and, you know, the whispers that I'm hearing from

00:23:59.960 people who know Washington say she really wanted Shapiro and was told in no uncertain

00:24:04.740 terms by various wings of the Democratic Party, including Barack Obama, that that was a bad

00:24:10.020 idea, that that, you know, you'd lose Michigan if you did that.

00:24:13.800 I think what we saw of those those pro Hamas protests all over America in big cities and in

00:24:19.660 college campuses, Democratic Citadels, that wing of the party put pressure on her not

00:24:24.660 to do it.

00:24:25.520 I don't I doubt it's a coincidence that the announcement was scheduled for Philadelphia.

00:24:28.640 And then she brings a guy from St. Paul, Minnesota to introduce him to the world.

00:24:32.620 I think that with the plan all along, she had to change her mind at the last minute.

00:24:36.020 I'm also hearing that a couple of very senior plausible Democrats who would have helped the

00:24:41.560 campaign didn't want to be on the ticket for whatever reason.

00:24:44.820 We don't know.

00:24:45.300 It could be because they're not sure she's going to win.

00:24:46.740 It could be because they don't like her.

00:24:48.180 It could be anything.

00:24:50.020 I'm sort of mystified as to why she didn't pick Mark Kelly.

00:24:53.420 There are some story out there that he's got a problem with the labor movement who blocked

00:24:57.900 him.

00:24:58.380 It didn't sound all that convincing to me.

00:25:01.540 I mean, Minnesota came close for Trump in 2016.

00:25:04.680 It wasn't close in 2020.

00:25:06.080 It's not really expected to be close in 2024.

00:25:08.480 So Walt doesn't get you anything there, whereas Kelly would have maybe helped you in Arizona,

00:25:13.340 which is a swing state and which until the switcheroo, President Trump was well ahead in.

00:25:19.220 And, you know, they don't also they don't seem to me to have a good grasp of Walt's record,

00:25:24.760 both his record as governor and his personal record.

00:25:28.040 He's being hammered over the stolen valor charges that appear to have some serious validity to

00:25:32.580 them.

00:25:33.020 And I don't get the sense that the campaign had fully vetted him and were prepared for this.

00:25:36.520 And there's probably a lot more in his background that they're not fully prepared for.

00:25:39.140 So I'm still reasonably confident that it was a bad choice.

00:25:43.620 It was one that they felt maneuvered or pressured into and one that they made at the last minute.

00:25:49.700 And Brian, can you just walk the audience through?

00:25:51.720 I'm sure there are people who've gone to a lot of your live events and they're probably

00:25:54.340 watching.

00:25:54.920 But, you know, Warren Posse is proud to be behind the, you know, much, I think, a source

00:26:01.340 of anger, a large source of anger for MSNBC, which is the precinct committeeman project.

00:26:05.940 But when you talk to those people, do they feel like they are having the ability to transform,

00:26:10.880 you know, the party from within, election poll watchers?

00:26:13.680 Do they feel like they have a meaningful sense of sway over what is going on?

00:26:17.740 Or do they feel sort of like to bring up Pennsylvania when they were, you know, locked out of those

00:26:21.860 Philadelphia counting rooms watching the election be be stolen?

00:26:25.340 I guess they were in the room, but they couldn't really do anything about it.

00:26:28.880 You know, I think more the latter.

00:26:30.420 And it varies, you know, state by state.

00:26:32.900 But we were just in Arizona on the weekend, and a lot of those folks thought that the

00:26:37.420 party was not really serious and that it hadn't been serious, wasn't going to be serious.

00:26:42.720 And that if a difference was going to be made, it was going to be made by them and the war

00:26:48.280 room posse.

00:26:49.640 That the combination of those two things was the thing that was going to be decisive.

00:26:54.020 But that the party still hadn't got its act together.

00:26:57.060 And that, you know, it's hard to change institutions.

00:26:59.500 We know that it'd be it'd be very difficult to believe that, you know, within four years.

00:27:05.480 See, I know it sounds like a long time, but that you could actually transform an institution

00:27:10.140 like the Republican Party, get enough people in it to actually make a difference.

00:27:15.500 Now, that having been said, there are thousands of committeemen around the country,

00:27:20.240 precinct captains and what have you. 0.85

00:27:22.120 They're going to make a difference.

00:27:23.380 I have no doubt about that in them, along with the war room posse is going to be decisive.

00:27:29.340 So however pessimistic I may ever I may ever sound.

00:27:32.800 And, you know, Michael and I talk regularly, you know, maybe not daily, but regularly.

00:27:37.840 And we always try to, you know, compete with one another on who could be the most pessimistic.

00:27:42.360 And if everyone is pessimistic, we have to switch over and one of us has to be the optimist.

00:27:47.860 You know, look, right now, I believe, forgive me, God's on our side.

00:27:52.380 And he has demonstrated that with President Trump.

00:27:55.740 And we just have to work and we have to be able to deserve victory.

00:27:59.940 As I told the audience in Arizona, we have to deserve victory, which means we have to work very hard.

00:28:05.500 If we do that, that can be decisive.

00:28:08.000 And we've got to jump to break.

00:28:10.160 I will say for my time at Claremont, my number one takeaway is that it is a competition of who can out black pill the next.

00:28:18.000 But I guess that's realism because, you know, we're all about action, action, action here in the war room.

00:28:24.340 We'll be right back.

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00:29:36.220 Bannon.

00:29:36.560 Welcome back to The War Room.

00:29:44.520 Still live from California, Newport Beach at the Claremont Institute Lincoln Fellowship.

00:29:49.440 We're joined by two of their brightest and leading voices, Michael Anton and Brian Kennedy.

00:29:55.080 If you guys want to check out what Claremont's about, you can always go to Claremont.org.

00:29:58.080 They also have their affiliated publication, The American Mind.

00:30:01.540 And I was talking to a lot of Claremont people, and they were saying they would love to see more members of the War Room Posse in their fellowships.

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00:30:32.560 And like I said, The American Mind, maybe while you're at it, birchgold.com slash Bannon for the latest installment of the end of the dollar empire.

00:30:40.340 But we're sort of halfway through the show, so I wanted to bifurcate and pivot more so to what a potential Trump administration would look like.

00:30:48.460 And you know the show, Steve Bannon's kind of life crusade has been for deconstructing the administrative state.

00:30:54.660 And I know you guys share that concern setting up, you know, recently sort of an administrative state project within Claremont run by Theo, who's on War Room a lot.

00:31:03.060 But, Michael, you served in the National Security Council.

00:31:06.400 Thank you.

00:31:06.960 I don't know how you made it out alive.

00:31:08.780 You had a front row seat to probably one of the most corrupt little outcrops of the White House.

00:31:14.140 But just walk us through where you think Trump stands in terms of, you know, the lessons that were learned from the first administration on the issue of personnel and subversion.

00:31:25.400 Just going into it, what your analysis is.

00:31:29.200 OK.

00:31:29.900 I've listened to the president talk about, you know, he's been, you know, look, let's just say Donald Trump is not a guy who likes to dwell on past mistakes.

00:31:38.820 But so, therefore, when he does say, I got something wrong, it's very serious and you need to take it seriously.

00:31:46.720 And he has said the personnel decisions, the operation, all of that in the first term was bad or had a lot of problems.

00:31:54.640 And I've learned a number of lessons from that.

00:31:56.600 I'm going to get it right the next time.

00:31:57.780 I think he's completely serious.

00:31:59.520 He, because he's the president and he's at the top of the chain and it really every cabinet decision is down to him, he's going to focus on that.

00:32:05.620 And I just hope that the people around him don't also lose sight of the staff.

00:32:12.420 The reason why the National Security Council staff is important.

00:32:15.220 First of all, it was created by law in 1947.

00:32:18.600 You could, I suppose, scale it down and try to get rid of it.

00:32:21.560 You can't entirely get rid of it because that without repealing the law.

00:32:25.160 I still think that was that would be a mistake.

00:32:27.500 I think the National Security Council staff, which was an obstructionist entity within the White House for much of his first term, could be reformed and become one of his greatest assets in a second time if it's approached the right way.

00:32:41.040 First of all, it's the operation that handles foreign policy that's literally the physically closest to the president.

00:32:47.020 It's part of the executive office of the president.

00:32:48.800 It's part of his personal staff.

00:32:50.020 It exists on the campus, the so-called 18 acres of the White House, you know, with its senior leadership in the West Wing and the rest of it in the executive office building across West Exec.

00:33:00.000 You know, they're not often across the river in Arlington or Langley or in D.C. across town in Foggy Bottom.

00:33:06.340 These people are right there.

00:33:07.460 They work directly for him in his personal chain of command.

00:33:09.880 It's also it's the central node of everything that goes on in the intelligence, military, special operations, diplomatic, you name it.

00:33:19.080 Anything that happens in the national security foreign policy space is all coming through that system.

00:33:24.700 The policies are being examined in that system.

00:33:26.400 They're being debated.

00:33:27.120 They're being refined, rejected, promoted.

00:33:29.640 It really is the middle of the web.

00:33:32.800 If you can get control of that, you can have a tremendous impact.

00:33:36.580 I think it's in a way it's the lowest hanging fruit.

00:33:38.880 Nobody on the NSC staff has to be confirmed by the Senate.

00:33:42.360 Every single appointment is completely at the president's discretion.

00:33:45.900 What has happened over decades and it's become accepted as normal that we need to kind of think through or think past is that the NSC staff ends up being dominated by about roughly 80 to 85 percent career professionals who are detailed in from their home agency for a year, two years.

00:34:03.900 And then they go back with a little layer of leadership at the top that are appointed by the president.

00:34:08.880 I think that number, that 85 percent number, needs to go way down, which will require some reforms that I've outlined in an article in the past and that I can explain if you want.

00:34:17.440 But it's within the realm of possibility.

00:34:19.800 And the president and his chief of staff and his vice president and really the senior people that are the most close to him need to think of the NSC not as – I think in the first term they started to – you know, they didn't know what it was or what to do with it.

00:34:32.320 And then it – because they had all these basically obstructionist detailees in there who gave them a hard time, they started to – they didn't think about getting rid of it, but they just started to think about bypassing it.

00:34:41.620 Let's just, you know, go around it, ignore it.

00:34:44.800 They need to think about it as a potential asset, as potentially the president's greatest asset in the conduct of his foreign policy.

00:34:51.500 As I think we all know – I mean, I know it from up close because I work for him on these questions – he likes to conduct diplomacy personally.

00:34:57.860 He likes to make calls.

00:34:58.880 He likes to do trips.

00:34:59.920 He likes to take meetings.

00:35:01.140 He needs a staff to help him do that.

00:35:02.980 And if he had a loyal, competent staff that is there for the right reason, that reports to him that either he hired or people he trusts hired that know what the agenda is and believe in it and want to serve him, the NSC staff could go from being either a liability or a big rock that you just try to get around into an actual engine that helps him conduct foreign policy.

00:35:24.540 And that's what it needs to be in a second term.

00:35:27.540 Well, I think with the advent of all the discussion of, you know, deconstructing the administrative state, the narrative that you hear, whether it's, you know, being vamped on MSNBC is, you know, oh, we're politicizing civil servants, right, to which you say they politicized themselves and they've been doing this for decades.

00:35:44.600 I'm curious, Michael, from your perspective.

00:35:46.120 I would go further, though.

00:35:46.980 I would say there's – that whole question is already politicized.

00:35:51.720 When that accusation betrays a fundamental misunderstanding, right, you're politicizing the civil service as if it's possible to conduct politics apolitically, right?

00:36:01.540 This is why we have elections.

00:36:02.920 We have elections because people say – you know, remember Donald Trump in 2016, everybody thought he can't possibly win Republican primaries running against the Iraq war because, you know, everybody – well, he did because people wanted a different direction.

00:36:15.440 And then you get in there and you find that the permanent government doesn't want a different direction, right?

00:36:19.400 The politics means I elect you because I like what you're going to do, and I voted against that guy because I don't like what he's going to do.

00:36:27.540 What these leftists who support the administrative state say is, oh, you elected somebody who doesn't like what the experts do?

00:36:34.280 Well, we're just going to ignore that, and the experts are going to keep doing it.

00:36:37.500 Politics should be politicized, right?

00:36:39.960 Elections should change the direction of the government.

00:36:43.780 Presidential appointments, who he chooses for jobs, should have an effect on policy.

00:36:47.780 What they want is it for not to have an effect.

00:36:50.180 They want the same people always running everything in the same way, and whoever gets elected and whoever gets appointed, maybe they get to sit in the fancy car and get the big office, but they shouldn't be able to do anything.

00:36:59.180 And what I'm saying is that's a completely wrong way to look at it, and a second Trump term needs to attack this problem pretty directly.

00:37:05.900 And from your perspective, when you see what is it, the 3,000 or 4,000 political appointees versus the 50,000 or so career appointees, in terms of actually reforming the system from within, do you think, and I'm aware they're not mutually exclusive,

00:37:21.760 but do you think that focusing on quality appointments of those 4,000 people is of more or less significance than finding a way to rework that kind of existing steady state of 50,000 people, the Vindmans of the world?

00:37:37.580 Like, where would you focus time and energy?

00:37:39.860 Unfortunately, you've got to do both at the same time.

00:37:43.240 There's no either or here, right?

00:37:45.040 I think that every single—so it's roughly 3,000 Schedule C full-time and another 1,000 on boards and commissions, which aren't as important, but they're less important than the 3,000, right?

00:37:54.760 Perfection is going to be impossible, but the goal should be get somebody in every one of those 3,000 jobs who's good at it, committed to the agenda, knows what they're doing, is energetic, right?

00:38:06.220 We want to be 100 percent. We're not going to get 100 percent, but it's got to be as close to that as possible, as fast as possible.

00:38:12.720 Fill those jobs up with managers who know how the system works, how to move the levers, and who completely believe in what the president's doing and are enthusiastic about implementing it.

00:38:22.120 At the same time, some of those people, the people who run, you know, the—let's say, deputy secretary is responsible for administration,

00:38:29.860 people who run purely administrative parts of the government should be tasked with exactly the kind of reform agenda that you're saying.

00:38:38.820 Like, you're—these people over here are going to manage, you know, the East Asia desk and keep an eye on what's going in the South China Sea, et cetera.

00:38:45.400 Your specific job, Mr. Administrator or Madam Administrator, is reforming this terrible system that blocks reform and blocks change, blocks the implementation of the will of the people.

00:38:55.640 And all—those efforts just—they have to be double-tracked. There's no picking. There's no prioritizing, right?

00:39:01.720 The priority will be who's doing what, but you've got to have people in both camps doing both at the same time, or this will never work.

00:39:08.380 And, Brian, from your perspective, again, I think you're more—you do more events with the War Room Posse than I do.

00:39:15.300 I don't know how that got—we need to renegotiate our contracts, because I love meeting the War Room Posse.

00:39:20.640 But in terms of making sure that that core group of 4,000 people are true, solid, you know, to their core MAGA types, you know, how do you think we thoroughly vet people and get people who are committed to Trump's agenda and aren't just going to end up being MSNBC contributors, you know, three months after they depart the administration?

00:39:41.660 Yeah, no, I think that's important. First of all, I agree with everything Michael said.

00:39:48.320 I would only add to it that we have to do that quickly, that, you know, a lot of folks say, well, you know, you just can't dismantle Washington overnight.

00:39:57.840 And I would say it may not be overnight, but it's going to be very quickly. Do the painful things quickly.

00:40:03.300 When it comes to the actual personnel, you know, I am more of the view, like William F. Buckley Jr., who said he'd rather be governed by the first 300 people in the Boston phone book than the faculty of Harvard University.

00:40:18.940 I think the first administration of President Trump, there may have been too much of a focus, not by President Trump, but by those people doing the hiring, that you had to have certain credentials.

00:40:30.680 And there was a tradeoff made between credentials and whether you actually believed in what President Trump did.

00:40:36.680 In the second administration, we want competent people, but we shouldn't worry about whether they're coming from Harvard or Yale or Princeton.

00:40:43.260 We should actually care if they're competent. Do they have real-world experience? Do they believe what President Trump believes?

00:40:50.400 Which is not complicated. The America First agenda has been articulated by Michael, by President Trump most especially, and by many other people.

00:40:59.020 It shouldn't be that hard to find those people. We just can't get hung up on whether they've worked previously for the State Department for 10 years, and so therefore we get to hire them again.

00:41:09.580 This is part of the problem in Washington. It's not a government of the people, by the people, and for the people anymore.

00:41:17.440 It's a government by experts who no longer love the country, who no longer believe in the country, and who no longer are willing to put the interests and the authority of what the president stands for and what he commands into actual policy implementation.

00:41:36.720 They have, as Michael was suggesting, they have their view, and they're going to push their view, and they dare you to fire them.

00:41:45.000 Well, I think in the second Trump administration, he's not going to be too hung up on firing people who are not willing to carry out an America First policy agenda.

00:41:54.460 It is what the American people want, and it's what they need, and it's about the only thing that's going to stand between us and American collapse.

00:42:02.300 And, Michael, just give me a minute real quick. When you were at the NSC, when you would look to your left and to your right, I mean, what percentage of people did you feel like were actually on your team, on our team?

00:42:14.220 Well, some you absolutely knew. They were hired by the president. They were, you know, on the NSC terminology, they were direct hires.

00:42:24.680 And you work with them for a few days, a few weeks, a few months, you figure out very quickly, these people are completely with you.

00:42:31.240 I will be fair. Maybe some in the audience will think, you know, he's being a rhino here.

00:42:37.180 There are a lot of people in the government who really are basically nonpartisan career civil servants who just want to do a job and who won't be subversive.

00:42:45.060 I think those people can be found. I also think, though, that we didn't do much of a very good job of vetting them and trying to bring them over as detailees in the first administration. 0.99

00:42:54.740 In fact, we were, you know, we would get blocked at the NSC.

00:42:58.460 We would say, well, we've identified some people that we want from this department or that department.

00:43:01.800 And we would allow the secretaries to say no to the White House and not send them.

00:43:05.780 That's basically, you're allowing a cabinet secretary to say no to the president.

00:43:08.900 I just don't think that should be allowed in the second term.

00:43:11.160 The National Security Advisor says, I've identified Jane Smith as a Korea expert, and I want her over here.

00:43:16.620 And we've vetted her, and we think she's good, even though she's not going to be a direct hire.

00:43:20.460 Michael, we've got to jump to break. We've got one segment left.

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00:45:25.960 It is finally time for a straightforward assessment of the state of our nation.

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00:46:00.360 Maybe we should have put a trigger warning on that for Michael, for all the people he used to probably work with at the NSC.

00:46:07.660 But, Michael, thank you so much for joining us.

00:46:10.680 I know the audience really respects and is appreciative of your insights.

00:46:15.160 We've got a few minutes.

00:46:16.100 I want to give you guys each like two minutes each just your sort of concluding thoughts on why the time to not rest, the time to get involved, engaged is now, and how they can do that.

00:46:27.600 Definitely the time to rest is not now.

00:46:29.660 I mean, you could just see the polling changes.

00:46:33.800 I think Kamala is actually not in tune with the American people.

00:46:37.180 I think she's a beatable candidate. 1.00

00:46:39.040 But it's not – it should not be surprising that when a party that was demoralized about, you know, a half or non-sentient candidate, when they finally get out from under that rain cloud, they're going to be energized.

00:46:52.080 They're going to be fired up.

00:46:52.900 They're going to be feeling confident.

00:46:54.760 And, you know, and we're going to be on our back foot a little bit.

00:46:57.200 But to beat that energy and that confidence, we've got to get back to – we've got to do something kind of contradictory.

00:47:02.940 Get back to the really high spirits and the great feeling that we had in that period I talked about around the time of the convention and yet not let that great feeling and those high spirits make us rest.

00:47:13.800 We've got to make it – do the opposite.

00:47:15.520 Drive us.

00:47:16.420 We haven't won this yet.

00:47:17.700 We're behind in the fourth quarter.

00:47:19.380 There's enough time left.

00:47:20.440 We can score some points.

00:47:21.440 We can win it.

00:47:22.120 But only if you just drive, drive, drive.

00:47:25.400 Michael, if people want to – you're not on social media, I don't think.

00:47:29.320 You strike me as a bit of a Luddite with your Skype difficulties.

00:47:34.220 I'm too intemperate a person to be on social media.

00:47:36.940 So if I were on Twitter, I'd just get in trouble all the time.

00:47:39.120 I'd get the Claremont Institute in trouble all the time, and, you know, I don't want to do that.

00:47:43.560 Good trouble.

00:47:45.060 But if people want to get the books, read the essays, where are you writing?

00:47:48.360 Where can people go to do all that?

00:47:50.520 Well, the books are all out.

00:47:51.640 You can get them on any book website.

00:47:53.760 When I write, I write a lot for the Claremont Review, for American Mind, for others.

00:47:57.440 I'm working on a really big book right now that's going to take me a while.

00:47:59.920 So you may not see, you know, the volume of essays that you used to from me.

00:48:05.280 But when it's all over, I should have a doorstop out there for people if they want to read it, to read.

00:48:11.160 I'm sure they will.

00:48:12.060 Michael, thank you so much for joining us.

00:48:14.600 Thank you.

00:48:16.120 Of course.

00:48:16.840 And Brian Kennedy, your closing thoughts.

00:48:19.120 Yeah, I agree with Michael.

00:48:22.420 We have to keep on fighting here.

00:48:24.080 I would also say that a lot of Americans today are disoriented.

00:48:29.340 They look out and they think, Kamala Harris, how can she be popular?

00:48:33.360 How can they be, you know, how can Kamala Harris be ahead in the polls?

00:48:37.100 I think there's a lot of gaslighting going on.

00:48:40.400 And I think these pollsters and the presentation of these polls, there's a lot of games being played in all this.

00:48:46.600 And so don't believe it.

00:48:48.200 There's really one main poll, and that's November 5th.

00:48:52.380 And people have to be geared toward that day.

00:48:55.300 I think you look at these rallies that the Democrats are having.

00:48:59.140 You know, there's a lot of Democrats who are pretty deranged when it comes to President Trump.

00:49:03.480 I don't know that they like Kamala Harris that much.

00:49:05.860 But, you know, these are the same people who were for lockdowns and for wearing masks and for actually behaving in the kind of craziness we've seen over the past four years.

00:49:14.900 So we ought not be surprised that there are a lot of crazy people on the left with a lot of pent-up interest in going to rallies.

00:49:22.380 I still believe the American people are good and determined, and they want freedom.

00:49:28.320 There's only one candidate today that represents that, and that's Donald Trump.

00:49:31.840 And I say that just as a private citizen.

00:49:34.040 If they rally to that cause, the cause of human freedom, America will be free.

00:49:39.340 And if we don't do that, and if we sit on our, you know, rest on our laurels, we're not.

00:49:45.480 And so now this is the most important time in my life for engaging in politics.

00:49:50.340 So thank you, Natalie, and thank you for all you do as well.

00:49:53.460 Well, thank you, and thank you for joining us.

00:49:55.300 If people want to follow you, read the writings, where can they go to keep up to date?

00:50:01.180 Well, there's Claremont.org.

00:50:02.780 There's PresentDangerChina.org, which is the committee on the Present Danger China's website.

00:50:09.020 And me on X is BrianTKennedy1 on X.

00:50:15.540 So thank you very much.

00:50:16.500 A must follow, Brian.

00:50:18.020 Thank you so much for joining us.

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Bannon's War Room - August 08, 2024

Episode 3818： Michael Anton & Brian Kennedy On Threats To 2024 Election, Deconstructing Deep State

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