In this episode of the War Room, I sit down with my good friend E.J. Antony from the Heritage Foundation to discuss the current state of the economy and what it means for the future of our country.
00:03:40.000And I just wondered if you could address that issue, specifically what you think the Fed's doing and whether they're going to play some political games as we head into the election season to try to make up for the mess that they've created out of the economy, making it nearly impossible for the average American family to be able to survive and to be able to get by.
00:03:59.000And I wonder if you could expand on that.
00:04:03.000At this point, the Fed and the Treasury are really working hand in glove, I think, to try to get this administration, this failed administration, across the finish line.
00:04:13.000Whether you're talking about yield curve control or whether you're talking about manipulating the bond market, whatever the case may be, they are effectively trying to make things look better than they are.
00:04:25.000One very good example of that is how they are shifting away from long term debt to short term debt.
00:04:32.000There's a couple of reasons for that, one of which is they're trying to artificially push down the interest rate on mortgages so that it makes it look like homes are more affordable,
00:04:42.000even though we know that we're facing a home ownership affordability crisis right now.
00:04:47.000But the other thing is that because Treasury bills have such a short duration.
00:04:52.000In other words, you're lending money to the Treasury and you get it back within a matter of weeks, at most a year.
00:04:58.000They are very oftentimes treated and traded like a cash asset, like a very liquid asset.
00:05:04.000In other words, that makes it look like there is more cash in the financial system than there really is.
00:05:10.000That can help boost asset prices like stocks, for example.
00:05:14.000And so it can provide a temporary but strictly temporary stimulus to money markets.
00:05:20.000Once again, this is all part of trying to make things look better than they are.
00:05:25.000At this point, I think the best way, Congressman, to describe what the Fed and Treasury are doing is putting lipstick on a pig at every level you can possibly imagine throughout the financial system.
00:05:37.000So unpack for me a little bit and for the listener what you think, your observation, the sort of core problem is at the moment, right?
00:05:44.000I mean, I've got my own observations as a member of Congress.
00:05:51.000But, you know, if you go back and you look at the 1970s and stagflation and you saw a lot of the driving forces of some of that, you had some like union wage pressure increases, you had regulatory issues.
00:06:01.000You also had very high marginal tax rates, right?
00:06:04.000You had 70 percent top marginal tax rate under Carter, which then Ronald Reagan dropped.
00:06:09.000You know, there's the famous Laffer curve and all the changes in the early 80s dropped to a top marginal rate of closer to 30 percent.
00:06:15.000And so that was part of spurring economic growth along with other tax changes.
00:06:18.000But there was also regulatory changes and other things to undo the burdens being caused by the radical progressive Democrat regime of the day under the Carter administration in the late 70s.
00:06:28.000Can you unpack where we are today in 2024 and what a President Trump administration will be staring at on January 20th?
00:06:36.000And what do we do? Like, let's let's kind of lay out for the American people.
00:06:40.000Hey, this is going to be how we're going to aggressively get economic growth back and restore the American dream.
00:06:46.000Well, not only did the Trump tax cuts help spur at least some economic growth, but even more so what they did during the Trump administration was regulatory reform.
00:06:56.000This is an area where, frankly, I don't think the Trump admin gets anywhere near enough credit.
00:07:01.000I'm so glad you brought up regulation, Congressman, because under under the Trump administration, again, through reform, they were able to reduce regulatory costs, something that hadn't been done essentially in a generation.
00:07:14.000They were able to reduce regulatory costs in average of two thousand dollars per household per year of that administration.
00:07:22.000But we've seen exactly the opposite under this administration, under the Biden Harris team, where you have seen an increase of five thousand dollars per household per year in regulatory costs.
00:07:34.000And so, yes, it's true. People are earning more today.
00:07:37.000But between inflation from the Fed printing money and regulatory costs pushing prices up even further, all of those wage gains have been completely wiped out.
00:07:47.000And that's despite the fact that we have actually seen some increases in productivity recently.
00:07:52.000In other words, families today are working harder than ever before.
00:07:56.000They're working more than ever before.
00:07:58.000And yet they're able to buy less than they could just four years ago.
00:08:02.000And that shows you just how much the government has grown.
00:08:05.000And I guess that that's a long winded way of going back to the original question you had, Congressman, which is what is our primary problem today?
00:08:12.000Too much government, too much government spending.
00:08:16.000People need to realize every dime of government spending is paid for.
00:08:33.000Government can't spend a dime unless it takes it from you first.
00:08:37.000And so you have to remember, again, every time someone tries to sell you a government program or a new government spending package saying we're going to give X, Y and Z goodies to these different people, maybe even yourself.
00:08:51.000Remember, you're paying for that at the end of the day.
00:08:56.000E.J., I appreciate that very much because I think that's lost for a lot of Americans.
00:09:00.000They hear, you know, what we're debating in policy up here.
00:09:03.000Going back to what the Trump administration do and deregulating and dropping down the cost of regulations.
00:09:08.000We now just have the important Chevron ruling by the Supreme Court now gives us greater tools in Congress.
00:09:13.000And frankly, in the executive branch, we're able to go push back now and be able to say, look, Congress is going to control some of this.
00:09:19.000But we have more power to be able to head in in January and deconstruct this regulatory state.
00:09:24.000My next guest after you is going to be my good friend Alex Epstein.
00:09:27.000But I wondered if you might kind of help set the stage, right, for what we're talking about in terms of all of that regulatory cost.
00:09:34.000The issue with respect to energy policy, right, the issue with respect to the Inflation Reduction Act, so-called Inflation Reduction Act, and all of the subsidies that have gone into funding China and funding, you know, wind projects and solar projects, which are actually more costly energy.
00:09:50.280The fact that our cars are more expensive, the tailpipe rule that's going to make EVs be two-thirds of the average of the American fleet by 2032, which will drive up the cost of automobiles because EVs are more expensive, more expensive to repair, and less efficient for the average family, the average family of four that's struggling.
00:10:08.100Can you set the stage for what we're facing and how aggressive we need to be?
00:10:12.420And then one final point on the spending point.
00:10:17.320We're bleeding out $2 trillion a year.
00:10:20.060How important is it for us when we come in, especially if we're going to do a tax relief, if we're going to extend some portions or all of some of the tax breaks from President Trump in 2017, how important and critical is it for us to restrain spending in order to drive inflation down?
00:10:35.780How important is it for us to repeal the Inflation Reduction Act in full, which would save us about $800 billion so we can use that to offset some of the tax relief for economic growth?
00:10:46.840Well, Congressman, it's so key that when we reduce government revenue that we also reduce government spending.
00:10:53.240The last time we really did this was back in the 1920s, actually, and that was a key ingredient to the boom of the 1920s was the fact that you were shrinking government, but you were also shrinking government, again, not just in terms of how much they were taking from you, but how much they were spending.
00:11:10.760If you don't do that, then you create those massive deficits and you provide this huge incentive for the Federal Reserve to create the money that the Treasury needs to borrow.
00:11:20.620And that's how we get 40-year high inflation like we've been dealing with for the last several years.
00:11:25.440That's how you get a cost-of-living crisis.
00:11:27.540That's how you get these violent swings in interest rates where you enticed families with low interest rates to go into mountains of debt, and now with high interest rates, they're basically trapped there forever.
00:11:38.600They can never get out of credit card debt, et cetera.
00:11:40.900So in terms of how important it is that we claw back some of this unspent revenue, that's going to be a key ingredient to try to dig us out of this massive hole that the Biden-Harris administration and, frankly, Congress as well has gotten us into over the last several years.
00:11:57.280You said earlier we're spending over a trillion dollars a year just in interest on the debt.
00:12:02.580That's not paying a dime towards principal.
00:12:07.100I mean, this is absolutely extraordinary, and it is going to be a choke collar around the economic neck of this country if we don't get it under control.
00:12:15.900Now, regarding energy, one of the reasons why it's so important to deregulate that, unlike the rest of the world where they use oil for a lot of their chemical blend stocks, we use natural gas because it's so incredibly cheap for us to get it out of the ground, especially in places like Pennsylvania where Kamala Harris now wants to kill the natural gas industry in that state entirely.
00:12:36.240But with natural gas, you get all kinds of chemicals that you can use for everything from making polyester fibers for clothing to the plastics that surround your cell phone or your laptop computer, whatever the case may be, pharmaceuticals, you name it.
00:12:51.540And so if you can reduce the price of so ubiquitous an input as natural gas through reducing regulation, you end up reducing cost pressures throughout the entire economy.
00:13:02.320So we should remember that a lot of these energy sources aren't just used for energy.
00:13:07.060They're used for almost everything in our lives, and that's why it's so important that we get those costs down.
00:13:12.940In addition to driving down the cost by making sure we put in the right kind of policy with respect to energy to get energy prices down, just one closing kind of question and thought for you, which is when we're dealing with those kinds of impacts on the average American family, expand just real quick on, you know, you talked about driving down the regulatory costs, what President Trump was able to do.
00:13:38.640How critical is that component in terms of economic growth, okay?
00:13:43.520Because that's one of the things that's going to get lost in this.
00:13:45.080Everybody's going to be talking about a tax bill in January.
00:13:47.320And look, I'm for whatever tax relief we can provide for the hardworking family out there, okay?
00:13:52.360Not necessarily interested in it for every corporation that's advancing their, you know, ESG agenda and all their garbage on the American people.
00:13:59.420But I want to make sure there's economic growth potential.
00:14:01.680But the regulatory issue, how much of a factor is that in driving down our ability to have economic growth?
00:14:10.300We have to remember, Congressman, this is a really good question.
00:14:13.160We have to remember that when you're talking about, let's say, a trillion dollars in regulatory costs versus a trillion dollars in taxes, the regulatory costs are infinitely more harmful.
00:14:22.660The reason is is because that's just simply lost economic activity.
00:14:26.120If the government is going to take a trillion dollars from you, they are ultimately going to spend it.
00:14:30.900Now, they're going to spend it inefficiently, right?
00:14:32.540They're not going to spend it in an efficient manner.
00:14:34.840There will be wasted resources in that process.
00:14:37.380But they're never going to waste 100 percent of it, even if they waste 90 percent of it, let's say, which does happen sometimes.
00:17:37.240We just had EJ in talking about the extent to which the sort of regulatory environment is crushing the American economy.
00:17:44.040And I want to get in zero in on what we've been seeing out of the Biden-Harris administration
00:17:49.600and what we're seeing currently in terms of the regulatory impact of all of the stuff going on on energy, right?
00:17:55.020We're talking about the tailpipe rule, which is going to mandate EVs by 2032.
00:17:59.680We're talking about the Inflation Production Act where you've got subsidies.
00:18:03.380And one of the things I want the audience to hear from you is, like, you're not coming at this from a particular political agenda necessarily as much as just speaking truth
00:18:11.260and speaking truth about what it means for the average human being, right, that humans flourish when we have abundant available energy.
00:18:18.780This administration has been restricting the availability of abundant, reliable energy.
00:18:23.880And rather than allowing us to flourish with available gas, available – I know you're big on nuclear.
00:18:30.180Can you talk a little bit about that, about what that means for the average American family,
00:18:33.800how the American dream is getting restricted by pursuit of this – what is in fact a political agenda
00:18:40.140and rather what we could do instead with true energy freedom?
00:18:44.600Sure. I mean, I think a key aspect of the American dream is just having a certain level of prosperity.
00:18:52.780So the idea that, well, if, you know, you work hard, you do the right things, you can sort of fairly easily support a family.
00:19:01.520You can do work that you like, but you can also have recreational time.
00:19:06.100You know, you can do all sorts of different things with your social network and community.
00:19:10.040And what people need to realize is this kind of life – there's a lot of problems, there's a lot of things undercutting it right now,
00:19:17.780but you have to realize this is a fairly new thing.
00:19:20.140And it comes from prosperity, and fundamentally prosperity comes from freedom,
00:19:25.300because freedom allows us to use our ideas to figure out how to become more productive and prosperous.
00:19:30.720But to be a little more specific, prosperity comes from energy freedom,
00:19:34.280because energy freedom is the ability to innovate and create in the realm of energy.
00:19:39.060And energy is machine food or machine calories.
00:19:42.160So energy is what we feed our machines that make us productive and prosperous.
00:19:46.900Without machines, life is terrible, because the world is a pretty inhospitable place.
00:19:55.120So the key division between a poor society and a prosperous society, besides freedom versus non-freedom,
00:20:01.280is having machines that are producing a lot of value for us.
00:20:05.500So you can think of it when energy is cheaper, everything that we produce with machines, which means everything, is cheaper.
00:20:12.320When energy is more expensive, everything is more expensive.
00:20:15.440This is why you've seen a lot of the inflation be energy-driven.
00:20:19.640And don't think of energy just in terms of what you pay for gasoline, what you pay for your power bill, what you pay for your heating bill.
00:26:00.120So we need a fundamental philosophical change from anti-industry to pro-industry, which ultimately leads to anti-human to pro-human.
00:26:09.280And that needs to be manifested in a whole bunch of specific unshackling, which we could talk about because my group has been working on a blueprint for that.
00:27:01.280Well, one of the things that I want to talk about when we're talking about this like radical ideology out of the Biden-Harris regime is I want to make sure that people understand what we got when we were having her choose Tim Waltz as the vice president nominee and what that means.
00:27:17.420And we're going to have Julio Rosas, who's going to be able to talk to us about the Minneapolis burning in 2020.
00:27:31.280Well, Julio's been doing a lot of reporting, did a lot of great reporting throughout all of the BLM riots in 2020.
00:27:38.480He's going to talk about specifically what we addressed and what we dealt with there in Minneapolis and the extent to which it was the radical progressive Democrat policies that encouraged it, that allowed it to foment, that allowed all of those continued burnings.
00:27:52.840You have that important picture that we have, the graphic where we see where we have the police department sitting there.
00:27:57.060It was literally on fire, and you have the Minnesota governor and the leadership of that city allowing it to occur.
00:28:05.240You had Kamala Harris, who was out saying, please give money.
00:28:08.960We'll be talking about that when we get back.
00:28:10.840We'll be talking about that when we get back.
00:28:10.900We'll be talking about that when we get back.
00:28:14.840We'll be talking about that when we get back.
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00:29:43.560Again, temporarily sitting in Steve Bannon's chair, looking forward to his return, praying for him, making sure that we keep him at the forefront of your thoughts.
00:29:51.260And we're blessed to have with us a good friend, someone who has been out there focusing hard and was out there throughout all of 2020.
00:29:59.240He's written a book about it, Julio Rosas, who has focused on the extent to which our cities were allowed to burn, particularly Minneapolis, notably important right now, given the extent to which one of Kamala Harris's first decisions as the Democrat nominee is to choose Governor Walz for her vice presidential running mate, who was in Minnesota when it was burning to the ground.
00:30:24.780And Julio had firsthand experience in terms of what happened.
00:30:30.220We've been talking in this show about the different worldviews that are at stake in this election, whether it's the border, whether it's our presence around the globe, whether it's the economy, the extent to which the average American is hurting, the American dream is unretainable.
00:30:47.460But importantly, people don't feel safe in their own communities.
00:30:49.800And what we saw in the summer of 2020, I think, is as emblematic of that as anything.
00:30:54.440Could you explain a little bit and walk through what you know about Governor Walz and about what happened in Minneapolis and be very blunt about what you observed?
00:31:04.900Well, yeah, Congressman, I mean, all that started in 2020 in Minneapolis under Walz's watch.
00:31:11.220The mayor also has many faults when it comes to how the riots were handled.
00:31:17.260But Walz is at the top when it comes to when it comes to the state of Minnesota.
00:31:21.800And so, I mean, I was outside the third precinct the night it had to be evacuated and it was set on fire.
00:31:30.240And one thing that I remember in the hours leading up to that, because I was posting updates on the crazy things that were happening even before that, and so many people, I still remember so many people asking me, where was the National Guard?
00:31:43.040Where was the Minnesota National Guard?
00:31:50.240And I have spoken to members of the Minneapolis Police Department who defended for days the third precinct until that Thursday.
00:31:59.880And they were frustrated because the defense plans were not great.
00:32:05.140They were constrained in their ability to adequately defend the third precinct.
00:32:09.980But they did say that they could have held that position if they just had more personnel.
00:32:16.980And obviously, the Minneapolis Police Department was stretched really thin, so there wasn't a lot of reinforcements available to them through that agency.
00:32:25.260And if they had the National Guard to back them up, the police station wouldn't have been set on fire.
00:32:31.640And it wouldn't have, most importantly, set the tone for the rest of the country, for the rest of the far leftists, Antifa and BLM.
00:32:40.260Because after that police station was evacuated, people across the country saw, oh, we can do that in our own cities.
00:32:50.920And that almost happened a few times after that.
00:32:53.400And with Seattle, a couple days later, with the infamous Chas Chop experiment, was kind of, was created as a, almost as a direct result of what happened in Minneapolis.
00:33:05.200And so it is kind of like a sick irony or sick twist of fate that, you know, walls allow this to happen.
00:33:13.240And, you know, Vice President Kamala Harris did her best to try to bail people out who, who partook in that.
00:33:18.740So it's, it's very interesting that four years later, we're still dealing and we're still seeing the effects of what happened four years ago.
00:33:27.380Julio, real quick, I think I've got my friend Corey Mills on the line.
00:33:30.600Corey, my fellow congressman from Florida.
00:33:38.880I just want to get us kind of a three-way conversation.
00:33:41.000I know you and I are going to talk a little bit about the assassination attempt, but it's all connected, right?
00:33:44.800It's all connected to the utter lawlessness, the utter disgrace of this administration and how they're running the show.
00:33:49.900And now you have the vice president, who is now the Democratic nominee, comes in and picks this avowed socialist, radical progressive Democrat, governor from Minnesota.
00:33:59.200And we know we've got Julio here, who was there on the streets in Minneapolis, right, watching unfold right in front of him what happened.
00:34:06.520We've got the police station burning to the ground.
00:34:08.520We've been talking for the last hour and change about how they're letting the economy burn to the ground.
00:34:13.440The average American family can't afford to live.
00:34:15.540They're allowing our national security to burn to the ground.
00:34:17.700They're allowing our homeland security to burn to the ground.
00:34:20.040They're importing terrorists into our country.
00:34:41.860Talk a little bit about what you saw in 2020, BLM, and how Harris Waltz is emblematic of a totally different worldview, a worldview of lawlessness, a worldview of endangering Americans.
00:34:52.760And see if you can paint that picture a little bit, why that caused you to run and why you think that's a problem for America.
00:34:59.860Well, look, like you talked about, Chip, and I know Julio.
00:35:02.340I've watched some of his stuff that he's done.
00:35:08.540But, look, the bottom line is that I, after leaving the military and leaving the State Department and agencies and so on and so forth, went on to create a company that was actually made to help support our military and our law enforcement.
00:35:20.280And what we saw in the 2020 Summer of Love, what they tried to call it, which was actually a complete lawlessness in Minneapolis, in Seattle, when we had CHOP, in New York, in Baltimore, in all your major blue city metropolitan areas, was this continuation of victimhood, even though they were actually vilifying our law enforcement departments.
00:35:40.280I looked to our Republican Party and I looked to others to where are we to be able to raise our voice, to be able to try and defend our brave men and women in blue.
00:35:48.320And when they were reaching out to us, these individual departments, Chip, they were saying, we're out of our less lethal materials.
00:35:54.320We don't have another emergency budget for this.
00:35:58.160Our company, at the time, was able to be able to provide almost $500,000 between all of these individual cities and riot control, less lethals, marker rounds, CS canisters, and all the things necessary for riot control and riot gear.
00:36:12.880And we were like, well, where is the rest of the government?
00:36:19.380You had radical socialist, Waltz, who was actually working with Kamala Harris on a Minnesota bail fund, not to support our law enforcement, to support the criminals who are actually being arrested for committing these crimes.
00:36:30.860And so when I saw this lawlessness, this defund the police nonsense that they're now trying to cover up, this idea that only lives that matter are the criminals, not the actual innocent civilians.
00:36:43.240We had law enforcement officers being killed.
00:36:44.940We had women who were being sexually assaulted and chopped that have never been released.
00:36:49.680And so I felt like just that it was my duty no longer just to rely on the everyday politician, but to be a statesman or representative who puts my money where my mouth is, gets into the fight, and makes sure we can save this nation.
00:37:01.960Because when we take that uniform off ship, and Julio will tell you this, that doesn't mean our oath expires.
00:37:08.480We will continue to fight to preserve this nation.
00:37:10.520And I care more about protecting this republic than protecting a title or protecting a seat.
00:37:14.540So, and Corey, and just so everybody knows, Corey's in a primary, he's got one coming up here in Florida on August 20th.
00:37:21.300We're all down there and rooting for him, and I know he's going to do well, but you're down in Florida, man, you should get on support, Corey.
00:37:30.760And like Julio, on that point, you know, the story's where there's over $2 billion in damage as a result of the riots and the BLM riots in the summer of 2020.
00:37:39.080As Corey just said, and as you alluded to, the vice president, our current vice president, Kamala Harris, the Democrat nominee, she was trying to help the rioters.
00:37:46.340She was out trying to raise money for the rioters.
00:37:48.100But now you've got the governor of Minnesota.
00:37:51.460That's who she picked, her first major decision.
00:37:54.220Would you agree with me that it was the governor of Minnesota who basically kicked off that summer of destruction for the United States by not acting?
00:38:02.520In other words, had the governor acted, had the governor done what he needed to do, that we could have avoided the chaos that summer or certainly tamped the temperature down?
00:38:11.060You wrote a book about it, and I just wonder what your thoughts are.
00:39:24.960And he, yes, he did call the National Guard.
00:39:27.180But the entire time he kept saying, oh, well, the rioters and all these people that are doing all this stuff, their anger is justified because X, Y, and Z.
00:39:33.900And I can tell you because I've interviewed, I interviewed small business owners in Minneapolis after the fact for the book.
00:39:41.020They had to take up arms to defend their livelihoods.
00:39:44.220There were Latino business owners who held down an intersection on Lake Street, which was the main street that got hit the hardest because there was nothing.
00:39:52.220They had to use AR-15 shotguns and handguns to protect themselves.
00:39:56.660They were essentially the rooftop Latinos, like the rooftop Koreans in the Los Angeles riots in 92.
00:40:02.280So it's very frustrating to see basically someone get rewarded with this potential new high-profile position after on just this one issue, because obviously there's many other issues he's been terrible on.
00:40:15.940But he's basically being rewarded for his handling of this when he should be fired.
00:40:23.520And, you know, I will say that probably an entire War Room show needs to be dedicated to the Second Amendment being the only bulwark that's out there against the tyranny that's flying around this planet.
00:40:33.920But I do want to say one thing, and if you can answer quickly, and I want to go to Corey, this issue of stolen valor, this issue of, because you wore the uniform, Corey wore the uniform.
00:40:43.580Without getting into the weeds, you won't have to, like, litigate it to death.
00:41:10.800I did six years, and then I got out on the discharge.
00:41:13.700And the reason why, I hate people who commit stolen valor for obvious reasons, but I have a particular disgust for service members who commit that.
00:41:21.300Because civilians who commit stolen valor, they don't really get it.
00:41:24.440That's kind of why they do it in the first place, because they think, oh, it's cool, and we need to do this.
00:41:27.760But service members who commit stolen valor or who embellish their records, similar to how Waltz did, they know better.
00:41:34.220They at least have some idea of the sacrifices and the commitment that is to be made and paid for the claims that they're making.
00:42:10.240Can you talk a little bit about your concerns about stolen valor and the governor of Minnesota?
00:42:14.900Well, look, at the end of the day, I appreciate that Waltz had served 24 years.
00:42:18.480I'm not taking anything away from that.
00:42:20.260But he knows better than any, having actually served that long, that you cannot maintain the rank of command sergeant major without having attended the sergeant major's academy.
00:42:29.980And so even if he would have said, I held the sergeant major billet, but I was demoted back to master sergeant.
00:42:39.040My bigger issue in this is that he didn't try to correct the record and even went on to try and deny that he abandoned his actual troop or his battalion whenever they were getting ready to deploy to Iraq after he found out.
00:42:50.240Look, he continues to say, well, I dropped my retirement paperwork way before this.
00:42:54.100Let me give you a quick history lesson.
00:42:55.600I actually was at the end of my terminal service and I didn't have enough time to be qualified to deploy to Iraq.
00:43:02.320I had to go to my brigade commander and plead with him to do a one time six month extension that allowed me to have enough time to deploy to where once you're in wartime, it's declared your stop loss.
00:43:15.000If he truly wanted to have stood by his unit, if he truly wanted to go to war to protect his guys, he as a command sergeant major billet or a master sergeant after demoted could have easily have done this.
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00:44:49.220Honored to be sitting in Steve Bannon's chair, but only temporarily while we wait for him to return after he's in exile up standing up for all of us and standing against tyranny.
00:44:57.240But I'm also honored to have my good friend Corey Mills on the line.
00:45:01.340Corey, we were just talking about the governor of Minnesota letting the streets of his city burn, kicking off the summer of destruction and the BLM riots in the summer of 2020.
00:45:10.540That's what America would be looking forward to with him as the vice president and Kamala Harris in the White House.
00:45:16.780That's why we have to get President Trump elected this fall.
00:45:18.860I know that's why you're out campaigning right now for everybody down there in Florida to make sure you get the nomination and you win in the fall.
00:45:24.640But I want to have you speak just for a minute about the assassination attempt.
00:45:30.140We just had a task force that was created.
00:45:32.020Now, neither you nor Eli Crane, who I had on the show a week ago, who's also a sniper, were included on that task force.
00:45:39.080Can you speak a little bit about your concerns that we're not moving fast enough to expose this for the American people so they know the truth?
00:45:44.640I mean, let's be clear, a former president of the United States, Donald Trump, and the current Republican nominee for president was shot less than a month ago or about a month ago.
00:45:59.020Yeah, look, let me just go ahead and first start off by saying that, you know, while we are the big tent party, we are also within our own leadership sometimes the party of hypocrisy.
00:46:07.920Look, we talk about how we hate DEI and this idea that we're supposed to be looking at equity and inclusion.
00:46:12.080And yet we'll actually make a task force that's selected by what seats are at risk, who voted with leadership, what state are you actually from.
00:46:20.300That has nothing to do with the meritocracy, because if it was, I can tell you that I talked to Command Sergeant Major Ken Christo, who used to be my team leader.
00:46:27.020He was a JSOC Sergeant Major, and he actually was the guy who went in to rescue Jessica Lynch in Iraq.
00:46:32.080I asked him, I said, how many of these advances in counter snipers have we done as far as operations?
00:46:36.200He said, I will comfortably go on record to say at least a thousand of these.
00:46:40.140So I've done at least a thousand of these types of advances for foreign dignitaries, for heads of state, all the way through.
00:46:46.740And meanwhile, that experience and that merit wasn't rewarded to try and get on the task force to find the truth.
00:47:03.200But the reality is that when they picked the seven members of this team, I had four of them reach out to me and say, one, can you get us your whistleblowers?
00:47:12.000Two, we hate that you're not on the task force, but can you tell me what questions I would ask?
00:47:15.660And how would you run this investigation to add insult to injury?
00:47:18.420And look, I'm all about getting the answers.
00:47:20.020But the problem is that I find it unserious whenever we released our 18-minute documentary where I laid where Thomas Crooks took the shot on the 20th panel, where we looked at exactly where the two countersniper positions that are being identified had a silhouette or profile and what was that, where we talked to individuals from local law enforcement and from retired FBI agents on the ground.
00:47:41.160And the bottom line is that this congressional task force, after that documentary was released, I had a member text me and say, great job, keep going.
00:47:50.300The congressional task force hasn't even had a conference call yet.
00:47:54.800This is unserious when we talk about the amount of time that's going on.
00:48:00.780The day of the shooting, we should have been bringing people in asking for their security plan, the comms plan, the sniper, counter-sniperers, data book, and range span.
00:48:08.480We should have been looking at what was the communication strategy with local law enforcement for a single-channel communication for emergency.
00:48:14.840What was the hard room plan when it came to whether they had a safe haven or they're going to utilize the armored vehicles as their hard room?
00:48:20.680What was the actual idea for their evacuation strategy?
00:48:23.840And who actually conducted the overall advanced plan?
00:48:28.220Now you've actually allowed three, four weeks to go where no doubt there's people who are actually memorializing these types of plans to say 11 July, 10 July, 9 July.
00:48:36.860But now you've got our local law enforcement who's come forward and said, hey, guess what?
00:48:41.020They weren't even there on the meeting that morning to try and coordinate and get last-minute plans.
00:48:45.500You heard on the recently released body cam where a guy from the local law enforcement was saying, why didn't you have guys up there?
00:48:51.780We told you on Tuesday you should have had guys up there.
00:48:54.860Now you've got other videos which have showed, which you haven't verified yet, of an individual who looks like they're either on a motorbike or a bicycle who's coming out of this wood line by the water tower.
00:49:04.040I walked that wood line. I know there's a cut-through path that goes to the intersection where the AGR building goes and where the main road to the actual campaign rally event was.
00:49:14.180So I know there's an easy access point that avoided law enforcement.
00:49:17.400So you have all of these facts. You have all of these points.
00:49:20.240You've had so much time going on, and we couldn't sit by any longer.
00:49:24.020And Chip, I appreciate you more than ever.
00:49:27.580We're going to call it America's Task Force.
00:49:29.180Of course, you, Andy Biggs, guys like Dan Bongino, guys like Eric Prince, Cash Patel, Eli Crane, myself, we're going to get the answers to this, but we're going to get to a stage.
00:49:39.680And Benny as well, I can't leave out Benny Johnson, where it's going to be indistinguishable between criminal gross negligence and purposeful intent.
00:49:47.440We've waited too much time to start getting those answers, and now they've had enough time to start doing CYA and putting the documents together.
00:49:54.860Corey, I agree with you, brother. Go win. Go fight, win. Go win your race down there in Florida.