Bannon's War Room - August 12, 2024


Episode 3824： The State of Play and The Trump Campaign


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In this episode of The Steve K. Bannon War Room, the former White House Strategist and presidential strategist takes a look at the current state of play in the 2020 Democratic primary race and offers some thoughts on what might be a constructive tweak to the classic Trump rally 1.0.

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00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,
00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:11.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:19.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:22.000 It's going to happen.
00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:26.000 MAGA media.
00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:33.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:43.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:53.000 Hey, Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:57.000 I'll be with you here in the War Room Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
00:01:03.000 for at least the next two weeks in the 10 to 12 hours,
00:01:06.000 so spread the word.
00:01:07.000 We've got a lot of work to do.
00:01:09.000 What I want to do this week,
00:01:12.000 obviously things have dramatically shifted in the presidential race.
00:01:22.000 It should not have caught anybody by surprise, yet it has.
00:01:27.000 It certainly didn't catch us here in the War Room by surprise.
00:01:33.000 As early as January, I myself had predicted that Biden would simply run through the primaries,
00:01:45.000 and they'd either take him out or he'd step down, and up would come the next bum of the week.
00:01:50.000 The fact that we got caught surprise, that folks got caught by surprise by that,
00:01:59.000 is a surprise to me.
00:02:00.000 I mean, it wasn't even chess, it was checkers what they were doing.
00:02:04.000 So what I want to do is kind of see where we're at in the race.
00:02:13.000 The fun part this week is going to be my take on what might be,
00:02:19.000 I think, a very constructive tweak of the classic Trump rally 1.0,
00:02:30.000 which there's been over 600 of them.
00:02:35.000 It's like the eighth wonder of the political world.
00:02:40.000 It's something that has really done a beautiful job in building the Republican base,
00:02:51.000 transforming the Republican Party from the party of Main Street to the party of Wall Street,
00:02:58.000 and really serve this nation and Donald Trump really well.
00:03:03.000 But with 90 days left to go, I will offer what I hope will be welcomed out there as a constructive tweak.
00:03:19.000 And then next week, what I want to do is playfully have some mock debate prep
00:03:28.000 to get ready for the first debate with Kamala Harris.
00:03:33.000 I think given the state of play now in the race,
00:03:39.000 that will be the first opportunity that we'll likely see for Kamala Harris to meet the press. 0.97
00:03:47.000 I think she'll hide behind the convention and her teleprompter. 0.84
00:03:53.000 She won't do any press conferences and kind of ride the wave. 1.00
00:03:57.000 I mean, if things are working, then why do anything different, I think, would be the attitude now in Democrat land.
00:04:06.000 So in terms of the state of play, I do want to mark first that just about eight years ago, this time, this day, this month,
00:04:22.000 in the 2016 Trump campaign, there was a massive shake-up at the Trump campaign.
00:04:29.000 I'm not suggesting that at all.
00:04:31.000 Like, they've got a great team over there.
00:04:34.000 But at that point in 2016, Steve Bannon and Dave Bossie in particular came into Trump Tower in the Trump War Room in Manhattan.
00:04:49.000 And what happened there is that, like, the problem you have with giant figures like Donald Trump is that people may tend to tell him what he wants to hear rather than what he needs to hear.
00:05:14.000 And the genius of Bannon and Bossie, two of the most frank, straightforward, and smart guys I know in politics, is that they simply told Donald Trump what he needed to hear at that point in time.
00:05:34.000 And Trump, and Trump being the genius that he is, saw the chessboard differently and went on to win that race with what was a very targeted and disciplined message that was aimed like a laser beam at where he needed to win the election,
00:06:00.680 which was, in that election, simply three states, simply three states.
00:06:06.600 It was Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
00:06:12.480 And Hillary was riding so high at the time that she never saw that coming, and it was a beautiful thing.
00:06:26.180 Now, fast forward to 2020, I'm in the White House, we're fighting a deadly pandemic.
00:06:40.240 Anybody, in fact, world leaders around the world were under siege because the public didn't understand what was going on.
00:06:48.000 They were afraid, and they were afraid, and they didn't think whoever was in power in Germany, France, the United States, Brazil, wherever, was doing the right job.
00:06:58.740 So it was very hard to be an incumbent at that time.
00:07:01.320 Yet, I'd be sitting in the Oval, and I'd see folks like Steve Mnuchin, Wilbur Ross come in,
00:07:16.340 and I'd be sitting there talking about how we needed to continue to press on things like China,
00:07:25.060 and continue to do things on that existential threat, and Mnuchin and Wilbur Ross would be telling the boss,
00:07:35.700 hey, we're going to win, it's a landslide.
00:07:37.440 Mnuchin would drive me crazy, go, it's going to be a landslide, da-da-da-da-da-da.
00:07:41.700 Remember, this is like September 2020, and that was like ridiculous, stupid kind of advice,
00:07:52.320 but it was what Mnuchin and Ross were doing because they thought that's what Donald Trump wanted to hear,
00:08:01.980 and therefore they weren't serving him well.
00:08:05.100 And you had the same problem with Trump's own campaign team.
00:08:10.120 It was Bill Stepien, Justin Clark, and Jared Kushner.
00:08:16.660 And the spin that they would have, because the polls indicated a tight race.
00:08:24.200 It was always going to be a tight race.
00:08:25.880 It indicated a tight race.
00:08:29.300 But what Jared and Bill and Justin would always do is that they'd argue that somehow the Trump voters are undercounted,
00:08:41.520 so before they even went in, sometimes they'd add three, four, five, six points to the poll.
00:08:49.300 And when you do that, Trump looked like he was winning comfortably.
00:08:53.040 And then you'd have guys like Dave Bossie, Corey Lewandowski come in, kind of show them the real stuff,
00:09:01.360 and next thing they know they'd be out the door by the chief of staff, right?
00:09:09.920 Don't let those guys in.
00:09:13.160 My point is that it's very important to have a leader in a political campaign
00:09:27.500 be told what he needs to know rather than what he wants to hear.
00:09:35.400 I don't know if that's going on now.
00:09:37.700 Again, I have great support for Susie Wiles, Chris Lasavita.
00:09:44.340 They did a wonderful job at the Republican National Convention scripting that and messaging that,
00:09:50.340 albeit, under the quicksand assumption that Biden would be the nominee.
00:10:04.920 But you wonder, kind of, what's going on now in Trump land,
00:10:15.100 because, obviously, we need to go in a different direction.
00:10:20.300 It's yet to be seen what that direction is.
00:10:23.040 But clearly, the last three weeks have been difficult,
00:10:27.820 and the next week is likely to be difficult as the Democrats have their convention,
00:10:35.880 because you always get a bump in the convention.
00:10:38.160 So that's kind of the bad news in the subtext for where we are right now.
00:10:49.040 Now, here's the good news.
00:10:51.620 The good news is we're about where we would have otherwise have been
00:10:59.880 if Joe Biden was not a feckless, senile, doddering fool.
00:11:06.780 I mean, let's face it, the lead in the polls that Donald Trump was gaining
00:11:14.940 had far more to do with the visual deterioration of Joe Biden before the world's eyes
00:11:25.880 than anything the Trump campaign was really doing.
00:11:31.020 I mean, the analogy here in stock market investing is don't confuse brains with the bull market, right?
00:11:40.180 And so you have these guys who think that they're frigging geniuses
00:11:44.360 because they're making hand over money hand over fist in a bull market,
00:11:49.680 but it's only because it's a bull market.
00:11:52.040 Okay, so in this case, all we needed to do was let Joe do his thing and point it out,
00:12:01.880 and it was a slam dunk to steadily increase the lead.
00:12:08.980 And there was a decision made to debate Biden prior to him being crowned the nominee,
00:12:17.160 and I'm sure there were good and bad pro and con reasons for that,
00:12:23.600 but you can at least say in hindsight that that was a catastrophic error.
00:12:31.880 It would have been much better to just stay under the radar,
00:12:37.600 not spend a lot of money hitting Biden, watch his deterioration,
00:12:43.340 let him become the nominee, and then unleash hell and fury on him.
00:12:49.140 But that didn't happen, okay?
00:12:51.040 So that's the world we live in.
00:12:54.440 We don't cry over spilt milk.
00:12:56.400 We always look forward.
00:12:59.220 Now, here's the thing.
00:13:03.040 If you're going to do any kind of reset, you have to do it quickly,
00:13:08.940 but as the lesson of Bannon and Abbasi showed in 2016, it can be done very quickly.
00:13:15.240 It's simply a matter of deciding on a message,
00:13:22.500 and to decide on a message, you have to decide on your ultimate strategy.
00:13:28.340 Is it personal attacks?
00:13:30.980 Is it policy?
00:13:32.320 That's going to be kind of one of the things I want to be talking about.
00:13:36.680 Well, but here's the thing.
00:13:39.400 It's not just less than 90 days to the election.
00:13:44.860 It's less than half that to early voting.
00:13:47.680 I mean, they're going to be starting early voting, I think the date is September 6th,
00:13:51.600 in Pennsylvania, the battleground state.
00:13:54.440 And the last time I looked, this week, Harris, Walsh,
00:13:59.880 and their running horse, stogging horse, Josh Shapiro, were barnstorming Pennsylvania.
00:14:09.180 So the question is, what is the strategy going to be?
00:14:16.100 And when we come back from break, what I want to do is talk about historically what this race looks like
00:14:27.520 compared to three specific other races, presidential elections,
00:14:33.800 and what we can learn from that going forward.
00:14:37.580 So I'm Peter K. Navarro in, or Stephen K. Bannon, in Steve Bannon's war room.
00:14:46.100 We'll be right back with the state of play of the presidential election.
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00:18:45.920 Plenty of time left to Election Day, but in these dog days, these are the days where the Trump campaign will find its footing,
00:18:56.420 will find a new strategy, a new message, and go to victory if they do that.
00:19:06.500 So, where are we now?
00:19:08.540 Look, the race is tight.
00:19:11.180 It's always going to be tight.
00:19:14.360 The reason why it hasn't been tight is feckless Joe Biden.
00:19:18.060 He's out of the picture.
00:19:19.100 What we have is a tight race that's going to come down to six or seven battlegrounds.
00:19:28.480 You've got the ones that won in 2016, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
00:19:36.520 These are J.D. Vance's states.
00:19:39.740 These are the ones that J.D. has to help bring home.
00:19:44.440 This is why he's on the ticket.
00:19:46.420 He is Mr. Bring Home Our Jobs, Stop the Offshoring, Secure the Border to Protect Black, Brown, and Blue Collar Americans. 1.00
00:19:57.300 Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.
00:19:59.760 Then you have Georgia and Arizona, which we lost in 2020.
00:20:06.140 And Nevada, which some folks think is winnable in the Trump campaign, based on some of the earlier polling.
00:20:17.720 I think it's winnable as well.
00:20:20.840 And then we've got to hang on to North Carolina.
00:20:22.900 That's it.
00:20:23.800 Now, 90 percent, roughly, of the electorate have made up their minds.
00:20:29.260 So, Trump has done a beautiful job of securing the Republican base.
00:20:38.180 The Democrats, it's a much more fragile base.
00:20:44.220 This is part of the good news I'm going to share with you.
00:20:47.520 Because several of the traditional Democratic components of that base are eminently grabbable.
00:20:59.920 Latinos, for example, are coming over strong to Trump.
00:21:03.000 Blacks, particularly men, are increasingly supportive of Trump because they understand how things like the border crisis and competition from China are stealing their jobs.
00:21:22.520 So, these are all winnable states.
00:21:25.900 The question is, how do you go about that and who are the so-called swing voters and how do you appeal to them?
00:21:35.900 So, I think the best way to think about this race, Kamala Harris versus Donald Trump, is to go back in history and think about what races were similar.
00:21:50.160 And I come up with three of them, I think, both the Nixon-McGovern and Nixon-Humphrey races, as well as the Goldwater-Johnson race.
00:22:07.660 So, what do those all have in common?
00:22:10.300 What those all have in common is kind of this Grand Canyon chasm between the Republican versus the Democrat candidate on big policy issues.
00:22:29.600 You had Johnson running against Goldwater, okay, who was viewed as an extremist.
00:22:37.720 He even admitted he was extremist in one of the, I think, dumbest political quotes that, you know, it's like, extremism in defense of liberty is not extremism or justified, whatever.
00:22:49.160 Whatever he said there, it's like, it just set him up for the famous one TV ad that killed Goldwater, and that was the nuclear bomb one with a little girl running around and the world dance, okay?
00:23:02.020 Pure, pure mainstream guy, Johnson, run against a radical Goldwater, done, over, boom.
00:23:17.980 McGovern, Nixon, it was the same deal.
00:23:20.780 You had McGovern out there on a radical ledge.
00:23:23.820 Now, note the difference.
00:23:24.700 Like, in one case, it was a Republican extremist, and in another case, it was a Democrat extremist.
00:23:30.160 In this case, there's no question that Donald Trump is either at the dead center of where the median voter is
00:23:51.280 with respect to the issues in his platform on the border, on foreign policy, on crime, on all these woke issues, on taxes, on regulation.
00:24:06.900 Trump is, Trump is, Trump is the Lyndon Johnson center playing to the Kamala Harris Goldwater.
00:24:19.760 One, Goldwater on right extreme, Kamala on the left.
00:24:23.840 And I think if the Trump campaign plays its cards right, one of the great mistakes, fatal mistakes, that Kamala Harris has already made
00:24:38.560 was to choose the Minnesota governor, call him Tampon Tim if you want, or the Stolen Valor Tim, the Timid Coward Tim, whatever,
00:24:53.140 as her running mate.
00:24:58.860 The chemistry there, it's like a leftist orgy.
00:25:05.000 I mean, come on.
00:25:06.220 It's like, as far-left Californian as she is, like, okay, here's a quiz.
00:25:15.100 What's the closest Midwest state to California?
00:25:18.220 I mean, if you had to pick a single state that most resembled kind of the leftist politics of Californication,
00:25:29.480 which I know all too well, I haven't spent the better part of 30 years there, you would choose Minnesota.
00:25:38.000 So, so, Johnson just crushed Goldwater.
00:25:47.500 Nixon crushed McGovern.
00:25:49.560 He crushed Humphrey from Minnesota, too, for much the same reasons.
00:25:53.940 These guys were too liberal, McGovern and Humphrey.
00:26:01.740 So, doesn't that tell you right there what the secret to winning is?
00:26:09.080 It's as simple, it's as simple as exposing the radical liberal agenda, but even more textured,
00:26:25.800 you need not just go after the radicalness of Kamala Harris on her woke issues, on her green scam issue, and all of that.
00:26:39.900 You can also factor in the incompetence and lack of experience on certain issues,
00:26:48.160 incompetence on the economy, lack of experience on foreign policy.
00:26:54.280 So, it should be clear what the strategy must be.
00:27:00.880 It's to simply amplify the Kamala Harris-Waltz left-wing agenda in ways which America understands.
00:27:16.020 Now, the problem we have is that we are not running against Kamala Harris.
00:27:20.960 We are running him against ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC,
00:27:29.080 and throw in others like Axios and Bloomberg, and pretty much all of the corporate media.
00:27:35.660 That's who we're running against.
00:27:37.320 So, when we're trying to expose who those folks are on policy, the other side is benefiting from the corporate media.
00:27:49.720 All right, when we come back, what I'm going to do for you is reimagine the Trump Rally 1.0
00:27:56.460 in a way which I think would help further this notion of exposing the radical, incompetent, inexperienced, liberal agenda
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00:29:27.580 Your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:29:35.640 All right, Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon.
00:29:38.920 We've been exploring the chessboard state of play of the current race for president.
00:29:46.360 The good news here is this race is eminently winnable.
00:29:52.920 My thought process here is that what we're being told by the polling and yada yada is that it's insane to attack Kamala Harris personally
00:30:10.280 when, in fact, the attacks on her actual policy statements will be much more devastating.
00:30:19.380 And I've drawn the analogy in terms of what this race looks like to, say, the McGovern-Nixon race where Nixon was running against an extreme on the left
00:30:37.340 or the right or the Lyndon Johnson goldwater race where Johnson was running against an extremist on the right, okay?
00:30:48.120 That's what we have here.
00:30:49.560 We have Donald Trump who's basically captured pretty much the middle of the road of this country at this point in time.
00:31:00.900 I know the left's head's going to explode on that, but it is true when you just look at the policies of this president, former president,
00:31:12.180 dull heads explode on that, versus the kind of crazy stuff that Kamala does. 1.00
00:31:20.380 So my contribution today to, and I offer this in the most constructive way imaginable without any criticism of the original Trump rallies,
00:31:33.960 which I think represent arguably the most brilliant tool we've ever had.
00:31:40.960 But what I'm going to do for you now is reimagine the Trump rally 1.1 to win in November.
00:31:48.920 Remember, we've got less than 90 days to do this.
00:31:53.020 Okay, so here we go.
00:31:54.080 Since 2016, think about this, Donald Trump's more than 600 rallies have built an impregnable Republican base.
00:32:03.220 But with less than 90 days to Election Day and less than a month before early voting begins in key battlegrounds like Pennsylvania,
00:32:12.940 right now, right now, is the time to quickly reimagine, retool, and reposition Trump rally 1.0 to woo the relatively small number,
00:32:27.720 small number of swing voters who will ultimately determine the election outcome.
00:32:33.960 All right, how does this work?
00:32:36.960 Roughly half of a Trump rally speech now is usually scripted red meat for the Trump base.
00:32:43.640 The other half is often lyrical and humorous, Trump improvisations on the news of the day.
00:32:50.180 I love that stuff.
00:32:51.920 Throw in Trump's playful and sometimes brutal eviscerations of his opponent,
00:32:56.920 or whoever may have wronged him, Brian Kemp, for example.
00:33:02.100 And a Trump rally 1.0 has always been a fast-moving feast for rally-goers and TV networks alike.
00:33:10.760 But Trump doesn't need feasts now.
00:33:13.680 He needs votes.
00:33:14.740 And the current rally formula is simply not sufficiently focused on the very stark policy differences—policy differences—between him and Kamala Harris that will swing voters in key battleground states.
00:33:31.660 Instead, when Trump attacks Harris personally rather than on policy, Harris's support among swing voters rises, particularly among women.
00:33:44.000 And that's just a fact of life right now.
00:33:46.960 Let's imagine, then, a Trump rally 2.0, 2.0, as my old boss takes the podium at his next rally.
00:33:55.680 After a big welcome to the always-massive audience and his obligatory recognition of the local dignitaries and political candidates he's endorsed,
00:34:06.560 the former president immediately begins entering into an interactive jumbotron policy dialogue with Kamala Harris.
00:34:18.240 Trump's goal is to expose both the radical and often incompetent and inexperienced elements of Kamala Harris's policies. 0.75
00:34:29.240 Yet, here's the big difference.
00:34:31.740 In this interactive experience, jumbotron experience, instead of telling his rally audience that Kamala supports an open border, defunding the police, defracking Pennsylvania,
00:34:47.780 men competing in women's sports, or higher corporate taxes and all that stuff, here's the beauty of this.
00:34:55.180 Trump just shows Harris expressing and revealing these stark differences in her own words on the jumbotrons and other video screens dispersed throughout the arena
00:35:08.000 and beamed to the TV sets of audiences watching the rally live.
00:35:14.600 Through such simulated interactions, once Kamala's words are played, Trump then offers his side of the policy equation
00:35:26.740 and importantly, importantly, relates Kamala Harris's policy to one of the many current crises facing this country.
00:35:36.540 And most importantly, Trump offers a set of concrete solutions.
00:35:42.020 As Duke Ellington might say about this, it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing.
00:35:48.600 Swing voters.
00:35:50.200 Now, let's tweet this a little more.
00:35:53.040 As a second in synergistic Trump innovation, and to further boost the policy content of the rallies,
00:35:59.740 Trump could also feature video clips from former, perhaps future, Trump advisors and cabinet officials offering details about the many specific policy actions
00:36:14.720 President Trump plans to take to bring inflation under control, secure the border, bring peace to Ukraine and the Middle East, and so on.
00:36:23.760 And this suggests another innovation.
00:36:29.040 Suppose that before each rally, Trump holds a press conference with select advisors on the issue du jour.
00:36:37.500 For example, Rick Grinnell on foreign policy.
00:36:41.560 Robert O'Brien, the former national security advisor on national security.
00:36:45.640 Former United States trade representative, Bob Lighthizer on trade and tariffs.
00:36:51.980 Former Department of Interior Secretary David Bernhardt on fracking.
00:36:55.940 Tom Holman and Stephen Miller on the current border crisis, and so on.
00:37:01.040 You get the idea.
00:37:02.720 Policy conference beforehand.
00:37:06.020 Clips during the speech.
00:37:08.660 Cool.
00:37:08.960 As still a third innovation in further synergy, Trump might also intersperse his remarks with video clips from American citizens actually harmed by the policies that have been implemented by the Harris-Biden White House.
00:37:26.580 For example, at a rally in Pennsylvania, Trump might introduce a video clip montage from workers in the fracking patch who lost their jobs.
00:37:36.520 And in classic Trump style, these workers might be brought on at the end of the speech, along with the policy advisors and the president in a kind of traveling roadshow bow like you see at the end of every Broadway production.
00:37:54.240 That'd be pretty cool.
00:37:55.040 Now, logistically, technologically, retooling Trump Rally 1.0 to incorporate these innovations would actually be a piece of cake.
00:38:07.560 Jumbotron and video screens are abundant in every arena Trump will play at.
00:38:12.140 Trump's speech writers, Vince Haley and Ross Worthington, can easily incorporate the appropriate cues and language to simulate the proposed interactions.
00:38:23.060 And I'm going to prove this to you this week, there is a political cornucopia of video clips that expose both Kamala Harris and her running mate, Tim Walz, for the woke, radical, incompetent, inexperienced, and very dangerous politicians that they are.
00:38:45.240 It would be equally easy to schedule press conferences prior to rallies, and Trump has no shortage of policy advisors to call upon to join him at the press conferences and record video clips for the interactive rally speeches.
00:39:04.280 With this technique, with Trump Rally 2.0, Trump can have equal fun with Harris's male running mate, Tim Walz.
00:39:16.700 Hey, he's a much—you can beat the hell out of that guy and not worry about women voters running away.
00:39:23.080 You can go out—that's just the Mars and Venus world we live in.
00:39:27.040 And that dude, Tim Walz, in the second hour of the show, you don't miss this, because we've got a great guest coming on to talk about the history of Stolen Valor episodes, Tim Walz.
00:39:42.900 Here, Trump can choose from any number of TV clips in which Tampon Tim supports feminine napkins in boys' bathrooms, Cuomo-style senior-killing lockdowns as governor of Minnesota during COVID,
00:39:56.920 or engaging in, yes, Stolen Valor as Walz abandoned his fellow soldiers on their way to the Iraq War.
00:40:06.980 Now, here's a fourth innovation.
00:40:09.920 It's really more of a courtesy and a strategy.
00:40:15.060 It's a little pie in the sky knowing the boss, too, but I'm going out on a limb and a ledge here, and I'm going to give you this one, too, okay?
00:40:24.380 Because it's important.
00:40:27.180 There's no room for error right now.
00:40:30.420 Now, we're walking up, trying to scale Everest here, and we can't, like, slip on the ice.
00:40:39.760 Trump rallies—okay.
00:40:41.780 I know some people are going to laugh at this one, but I believe in this one.
00:40:45.380 Trump rallies 2.0 must always start on time at 5 after the hour in prime time and then promptly in 55 minutes.
00:40:58.220 Why?
00:40:58.780 Now, Trump rallies offer millions of dollars in free media, and I know a lot of these TV producers who grouse all the time,
00:41:08.600 I don't know when he's going to start, I don't know when he's going to end, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:41:11.900 If TV producers can count on precision timing, they will be much more inclined to cover the rally.
00:41:17.940 Simple as that.
00:41:18.700 When Trump goes on sometimes for what seems like forever—hey, I can watch him forever, but some people can't—
00:41:26.560 he not only squanders precious time and energy, he will need for the home stretch, okay?
00:41:34.360 Conserve your energy.
00:41:36.560 He runs the very real risk as well of going off message and upsetting the whole rally apple cart.
00:41:44.220 Never is the admonition that less is more, less is more, more relevant than in this context.
00:41:56.780 So that's Trump rally 2.0.
00:42:03.940 I think it'd be of the mode.
00:42:07.000 I mean, hey, we're in a technology world.
00:42:09.000 What I'm going to do later in the week, I'm going to show you kind of how some of this could work where you—I mean, like, it's the difference between show and tell.
00:42:19.640 It's like the first rule in media.
00:42:24.320 It's the first rule in any kind of communication.
00:42:27.760 You're better off showing than telling, right?
00:42:30.800 If I say Kamala Harris wants to defract Pennsylvania, that's one set of facts.
00:42:38.480 If I show Kamala saying she wants to defract Pennsylvania, and then I show a fracking worker laid off and going into poverty, isn't that better? 0.96
00:42:55.560 Trump rally 2.0.
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00:45:06.900 We are talking big issues about the state of the presidential race with less than 90 days to go.
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00:46:33.460 So let's set up what we're going to do in the second hour of this show and then just summarize where we've gone so far this morning.
00:46:45.840 The top of the hour here, I'm going to have one of the great young generation surrogates in from the Trump campaign to talk about some of the issues.
00:47:01.280 Danielle Alvarez.
00:47:03.220 I think this is the kind of face and brain that we need more of.
00:47:10.740 She's kind of like the Charlie Kirk crowd generation.
00:47:16.980 And I think that one of the big demographics up for grabs are the younger generations who, as they have aged and realized that they don't have as good a chance of buying a house, a car, getting married, having a family and all that stuff.
00:47:36.600 They're looking more and more towards Trump lands, Trump's America, and less and less towards kind of the Zuckerberg future of virtual reality and some kind of hovel with a chip in their head.
00:47:56.300 So she'll be with us at 11, and then I'm really looking forward to the bottom of the hour.
00:48:03.500 You've got to stay for this.
00:48:04.940 We've got one of Steve's favorite guests and authors on who does all the military history for us.
00:48:15.660 And I want to have him kind of give us historical context on all this stolen valor issue with Kamala Harris's poor choice for vice president, Waltz.
00:48:34.440 Because, I mean, look, that one just, when I saw that clip of him at some, I don't know, rotary lunch in Minnesota running for whatever he was, going out, talking about carrying guns and being this brave soldier and this, that, and the other thing.
00:49:00.020 And I could see in his eyes lies, you know, it's that eagle song, you can't hide your lying eyes.
00:49:12.240 They'd call him Teflon Tim, but I don't know.
00:49:17.760 I mean, I've seen guys like that, there are a dime a dozen in politics.
00:49:22.240 It's like, ah, you know, it's like, ah.
00:49:25.220 It's on stage with her, and ah.
00:49:26.980 And then you kind of look behind the curtain there, and it's senior citizens getting killed by his policies in lockdown.
00:49:40.480 It's lying about Iraq and leaving his fellow soldiers to go get killed or maimed over there while he pursues his political ambitions.
00:49:56.000 Or it's letting Minnesota burn, while Kamala was raising funds for the people who were burning it.
00:50:06.760 So, anyway, at 11.30 Eastern time here, we're going to talk long and hard about the stolen valor issue.
00:50:18.160 I hope we get to relate it, having had a pre-brief on this with the guests, whether we can relate it to the Swift Boat incident with John Kerry, which, pun intended, sunk his campaign.
00:50:33.260 But that'll be a good one.
00:50:39.580 So let me just, in the last few minutes of this segment, what I'm trying to express to you is that political campaigns are about two things, strategy and messaging.
00:50:54.680 And one flows from the other.
00:50:59.040 And my read of this chessboard is that, first and foremost, the Trump campaign must focus on the swing voters.
00:51:13.400 And those voters are not on any extremes.
00:51:18.560 They're dead set in the middle and ideal targets for the policies that define Trump's America.
00:51:27.840 What Kamala Harris is going to do, as long as she can do it, is avoid all of the policy issues because she has the cover of much of the media. 1.00
00:51:47.180 ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, Axios, Bloomberg, Raw, stuff like that.
00:52:01.580 So it's got to be our mission, and you're part of it, Posse.
00:52:05.600 It's got to be our mission to get out there and explain not just the policy differences between Trump and Harris, but the consequences of the Harris-Biden policies with respect to runaway inflation, wars breaking out all over, murders and rapes from illegal aliens, all of that.
00:52:32.360 All right, when we come back, Daniel Alvarez, direct from the Trump campaign, and we'll talk all things Trump campaign.
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