Bannon's War Room - Episode 3836： Diary Of Disturbing Disinformation And Dangerous Delusions

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,

00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:11.000 You've just not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:19.000 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:26.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:33.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:43.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:47.000 Hey, Peter K. Navarro sitting in for Stephen K. Bannon this August 16 day of our Lord in the year 2024.

00:01:00.000 We are now officially about 80 days to the election and roughly one month to the start of early voting in some states like the Battleground of Pennsylvania,

00:01:12.000 which begins early voting on September 16th.

00:01:16.000 At least early voting starts after the first debate.

00:01:21.000 If we lose this election, we will lose this country.

00:01:24.000 I simply don't want to live in the America of Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.

00:01:29.000 And Kamala Harris is twisted version of JFK's Camelot. 1.00

00:01:34.000 With Camelot, it's Camelot.

00:01:36.000 With Kamala, it's Camelot with a K. 0.98

00:01:39.000 It's Camelot of inflation, Camelot of bordered chaos, Camelot of crime and a whole lot of Camelot of woke.

00:01:50.000 You see that Time magazine cover where America's latest political saint is canonized.

00:01:57.000 The headline should have been Joan of woke rather than Kamala's moment.

00:02:04.000 At any rate, you know what we have to do here.

00:02:08.000 We have to take the airbrushed, sanitized fantasy of Kamala that has been created by a fawning corporate media into the reality of a Kamala Harris

00:02:20.000 who provides a remarkably catastrophic combination of radical wokeness, supreme incompetence and unparalleled inexperience.

00:02:32.000 It's our job here in the war room to break down the Maginot line that the likes of CNN and MSNBC and newspapers like the New York Times and the Washington Post have drawn in front of her.

00:02:45.000 If you know your military history, the obvious way to defeat any Maginot line is to strike hard on the flanks.

00:02:52.000 And this is what I have been proposing this week that we do.

00:02:57.000 To refresh from Monday and Wednesday, I'm advocating that the best way to attack both Kamala Harris and her running mate, tampon Tim Walz. 1.00

00:03:09.000 Or is it DUI Tim Walz?

00:03:12.000 Or is it DUI Tim Walz? I'm not sure which.

00:03:14.000 By the way, Tim, my grandfather was killed, murdered by a drunk driver.

00:03:20.000 So folks like you, I don't take very kindly to.

00:03:25.000 And one must wonder now, are you going to need a breathalyzer to get into the West Wing?

00:03:31.000 And are you still on the sauce, brother?

00:03:35.000 Because that's a little bit scary for me here, OK?

00:03:38.000 Let somebody else drive you.

00:03:40.000 You don't get behind the wheel.

00:03:42.000 At any rate, here's the paradigm I propose.

00:03:45.000 And it may be used by everyone from podcasters and show hosts like Sean Hannity and Jesse Waters to the president himself.

00:03:54.000 OK, here's the Kamala takedown protocol.

00:04:00.000 Step one from that vast cornucopia of stupid stuff that both Kamala Harris and Tim Walz have said.

00:04:10.000 Draw out representative clips that illustrate their positions on policy issues that have proved them to be far outside the mainstream.

00:04:21.000 For example, Harris is on record calling for the banning of fracking.

00:04:26.000 Hey, Denver, get ready for this.

00:04:28.000 Banning of fracking in general and the defracking of Pennsylvania in particular.

00:04:34.000 So step one in the Kamala takedown protocol is to simply play the clip.

00:04:42.000 So let's see, Denver, do we have a fracking clip here?

00:04:46.000 I'm committed to passing a Green New Deal, creating clean jobs and finally putting an end to fracking once and for all.

00:04:54.000 There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking and starting with what we can do on day one around public lands.

00:05:03.000 Right. And and then there has to be legislation.

00:05:06.000 But yes. And this is something I've taken on in California.

00:05:08.000 I have a history of working on this issue.

00:05:10.000 OK, so so so you immediately get to a crossroads if if Kamala Harris somehow tries to walk away from banning fracking, then it becomes a character issue. 1.00

00:05:31.000 OK, a big character issue.

00:05:35.000 She'll do anything to get elected character issue. 1.00

00:05:39.000 She's consistent with her rise to power in California. 0.97

00:05:43.000 And she brings all that Willie Brown stuff back into play. 1.00

00:05:46.000 But if she sticks to, yeah, she's going to ban fracking, which would be the ethical and moral position if she's taken it. 0.90

00:05:55.000 Then what you do in the Kamala takedown protocol is you next explain the actual harm banning fracking will do.

00:06:05.000 And this is where it gets both interesting and interestingly complex.

00:06:10.000 And what I want to do is I want to introduce a concept here of first order effects, second order and third order effects.

00:06:17.000 It's kind of when you do economics and look at how things ripple through an economy.

00:06:25.000 It's like the immediate and then the knock on effects that you do.

00:06:30.000 So the first order effect here when Kamala Harris says she wants to ban fracking in the state of Pennsylvania is the obvious casualties in Pennsylvania. 1.00

00:06:42.000 The Kamala is the fracking policy is the folks who make their living in the fracking industry.

00:06:49.000 And that's not just the roughnecks at the front lines of the drilling, but it's also those who transport the oil and gas that may come out of the fracking site.

00:07:00.000 OK, that's first order stuff.

00:07:02.000 Second order.

00:07:03.000 When Kamala bans fracking, she reduces the overall supply of petroleum, not just in America, but also in the world market.

00:07:16.000 It's all interconnected, Kamala.

00:07:19.000 OK, she knows that in the law books, learning a little economics here.

00:07:23.000 The inevitable result of Kamala's fracking policy is higher world oil and natural gas prices.

00:07:32.000 Yeah.

00:07:33.000 Second order effect.

00:07:35.000 So families, not just in Pennsylvania, but across America, wind up paying more to heat their homes, fill up their cars with gas and even cook their hot dogs and hamburgers on propane stoves.

00:07:51.000 And tailgate parties.

00:07:54.000 And that's the second order effect of this.

00:08:03.000 That's still not the end of the story, however.

00:08:06.000 They're also the third order effects.

00:08:08.000 These are the broader geopolitical dangers that arise when the U.S. loses its energy independence and winds up once again being a supplicant to an OPEC oil cartel,

00:08:23.000 which is now controlled not just by a predatory Saudi Arabia as it used to be, but also controlled by a hostile Imperial Russia, which, as it turns out, is the world's third largest petroleum producer behind Saudi Arabia and the United States.

00:08:45.000 So once you make those economic and national security arguments, the first, second and third order effects, step three in the takedown Kamala protocol is to simply highlight the difference between Kamala Harris's blunt force ban on fracking.

00:09:11.000 And the policies of Donald Trump during the four years of his administration in which oil prices were more than 40 percent below those in the Biden years.

00:09:24.000 Think of that.

00:09:24.500 Think of that.

00:09:26.500 In those years of Trump, frack petroleum was plentiful, and the United States did indeed enjoy strategic energy, dominant strategic energy independence.

00:09:40.500 In Trump's America, the U.S. will, with Trump as 47th president, build more pipelines, including the Keystone pipeline, and lift Kamala Harris's ban on drilling on public lands.

00:09:58.700 And, by the way, the bottom of the hour, we're going to have an amazing guest on.

00:10:05.220 He's the former Secretary of the Interior, David Bernhardt, and he was the guy who was in charge of managing the leasing of public lands to make sure we had plenty of oil.

00:10:18.740 So, with just these changes, Trump comes in, and he goes back to the old policies, which worked well.

00:10:30.300 Trump will strike a big blow against inflation, even as he's able to build back his geopolitical wall against the likes of Saudi Arabia and Russia.

00:10:43.380 Elections do matter.

00:10:44.660 In fact, Saudi Arabia never would have abandoned the U.S. dollar, as it has done during the Biden years, if Donald Trump had been president.

00:11:00.540 Saudi Arabia's realignment with the likes of Russia and Communist China has literally been the result of an abusive Joe Biden, with respect to Saudi,

00:11:14.660 and an arrogant and clueless Harris pushing Saudi Arabia into the arms Russia, Communist China, and all those folks out there who hate us.

00:11:26.780 Okay, so that's the first pass of the Kamala takedown protocol.

00:11:33.840 It's pretty straightforward and simple.

00:11:36.640 You show Kamala saying something radical and or stupid, ban fracking.

00:11:41.340 You show who gets screwed by her stupidity and wokeness. 0.98

00:11:45.980 And then you show how smart policy from Donald Trump will make it all right.

00:11:54.000 And look, there's no personal meanness in any of that.

00:11:58.180 None.

00:11:58.540 It's simply fair game to show how Kamala Harris, with her lack of understanding of even the most basic of economics, is simply not good for America.

00:12:15.540 Okay?

00:12:15.680 Now, let's take a variation on the Kamala takedown protocol with a little bit more complexity.

00:12:28.120 In this iteration, we're not just going to show Kamala's woke, radical agenda in her own words, rather than simply talk about it.

00:12:37.740 We're actually then going to show some of the victims of Kamala Harris' policy agenda, and one riddled by radicalness and punctuated by her own inexperience and incompetence.

00:12:55.720 Remember here, with her law degree from a mediocre law school at that, I'm a bit of a snob on these matters,

00:13:03.800 but it matters where you go to school a lot because it's a signal of your underlying competence.

00:13:11.960 You have to remember here, mediocre law school, all she's ever done in her life is to be a prosecutor. 1.00

00:13:18.680 That's it.

00:13:20.240 And in the White House, she's demonstrated absolutely no interest in learning about anything, whether it be economics, foreign policy, or building combat readiness at the Pentagon.

00:13:31.100 In fact, I think she spent most of her time plotting the overthrow of Joe Biden.

00:13:38.700 And at least, you know, Machiavelli 101, there's no wonder Biden's wife hated Kamala Harris because Kamala did stick the knife in. 1.00

00:13:50.000 My side point here is that Kamala Harris is easy to attack, not just on a radical agenda, on issues like energy and the border and all things woke.

00:13:59.360 She is even easier to attack, invoking the twin dimensions of incompetence and experience on policy issues that touch on even the most basic economics and the most simple of foreign policy goals.

00:14:14.320 All right.

00:14:14.660 When we come back, we're going to continue this.

00:14:18.080 What I'm doing now with the Kamala takedown protocol is show you the second, more complex version of how to go about using her own words, her own words, and then the words of her victims.

00:14:33.960 That's where it gets a little more complex to illustrate why you're better off in Trump's America than Kamala Harris's America.

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00:17:30.080 All right.

00:17:30.820 Let's get back to where we were in the takedown of Kamala Harris with policy, the Kamala takedown protocol.

00:17:38.540 As I was saying, she's easy to attack, not just on a radical agenda on issues like energy and the border and all things woke.

00:17:46.640 She's even easier to attack, invoking the twin dimensions of incompetence and inexperience on policy issues that touch on even the most basic economics and the most simple of foreign policy goals. 0.95

00:17:59.580 In fact, I'd match my own record in the White House as an assistant to President Trump, moving policy actions through the deep state pipeline to create jobs and, during the pandemic, save lives to anything Harris has managed to achieve as vice president.

00:18:15.140 In this, J.D. Vance was right to say Kamala Harris hasn't done a damn thing. 0.95

00:18:21.200 But it's also important to point out that there are some very damnable things Harris has done that likewise reflect both on her radical nature and incompetence.

00:18:31.580 I'm referring, of course, to the two tie-breaking, damnable votes on the two budget-busting bills that have been acting like gasoline on an inflationary fire, with one of those bills ironically called the Inflation Reduction Act.

00:18:46.920 As John McEnroe might say, you can't be serious.

00:18:51.640 Anyway, back to my main point.

00:18:53.480 The more complex version of the takedown of Kamala Harris that I'm offering, feel free to use this, Jesse Waters, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingram, or anybody else in the conservative media.

00:19:04.540 You first use Kamala Harris' own words to show her radical mess, incompetence, or inexperience. 1.00

00:19:10.380 And you show another video clip or montage that features real victims harmed by Harris.

00:19:17.600 So let's test our producers there, folks in Denver.

00:19:22.560 Let's try this one now in the realm of economics.

00:19:25.660 I'm going to start with a clip montage of Harris in support of Bidenomics, claiming that inflation has been solved.

00:19:32.260 Then we're going to use a now widely clever clip of an African-American mother to sit down for him in Philly, talking about how inflation is battering her family.

00:19:45.240 I'm pretty much not going to have to say anything after this thing.

00:19:48.420 You'll get the picture of the Kamala takedown protocol.

00:19:52.800 OK, let's see the clips.

00:19:54.380 Because while our economy is doing well, by many measures, prices for everyday things like groceries are still too high.

00:20:06.800 You know it and I know it.

00:20:08.980 You know, when I was attorney general, I went after price fixing schemes.

00:20:13.220 And when I am president, it will be a day one priority to fight to bring down prices.

00:20:20.240 I will take on big corporations that engage in illegal price gouging.

00:20:26.220 I will take on corporate landlords that unfairly raise rents on working families.

00:20:32.560 I will take on big pharma and cap the cost of prescription drugs for all Americans.

00:20:38.700 And continue to bring manufacturing jobs back to America.

00:20:48.720 And back to communities like Eau Claire.

00:20:54.680 All that, ladies and gentlemen, and everyone else, that is called Bidenomics.

00:21:04.260 That is called Bidenomics.

00:21:06.320 And we are very proud of Bidenomics.

00:21:08.700 How hard has inflation hit you?

00:21:11.040 It hit me hard.

00:21:12.360 It's hitting me hard.

00:21:13.580 What do you blame for it?

00:21:14.620 I blame the federal government at this point.

00:21:16.800 If a working class mom who works as a paralegal cannot buy a $2 bell pepper because it's now five, 0.99

00:21:25.180 imagine a mother living on a food stamps. 1.00

00:21:28.120 Imagine a mother who's making minimum wage trying to feed children. 1.00

00:21:35.880 They're killing us without killing us.

00:21:38.700 If you understand that.

00:21:41.040 They're killing us without telling us they're killing us.

00:21:43.520 They're hurting people in ways that they can't help themselves.

00:21:48.920 It's either feed my child or, well, how about feed my children?

00:21:53.440 And I don't.

00:21:53.920 They're hurting people in ways that they can't help themselves.

00:21:54.920 But I have to go work.

00:21:58.160 They're killing us without killing us.

00:22:00.600 They're killing us without killing us.

00:22:03.880 They, Kamala Harris, you know the old, you broke it, you bought it, right?

00:22:09.060 You broke it, you bought it.

00:22:10.260 Kamala, you broke the economy with Bidenomics. 0.82

00:22:13.020 You bought it, girl.

00:22:15.500 In this version of the Kamala takedown protocol, we've got both the perpetrator and Kamala Harris and one of her victims.

00:22:27.480 That's the first rule of effective communication.

00:22:30.000 You can talk all you want about a thousand people being harmed.

00:22:33.180 But all that talk is never as good as showing one person actually suffering from that harm.

00:22:40.000 Of course, in this rendition of the Kamala takedown, you likewise recall how in Trump's America, prices were stable.

00:22:48.320 Inflation was non-existent, non-existent.

00:22:51.780 Real wages were rising.

00:22:54.340 People were far more prosperous.

00:22:56.820 Okay, you get the picture now?

00:23:00.440 We'll be using this technique again in the show today, but also in the coming weeks.

00:23:05.960 It's kind of like we've been doing in the war room with the cold opens, but with a little bit more twist.

00:23:12.740 We want to get much more precise about this.

00:23:16.940 I, for one, am absolutely outraged that politicians, as radical, incompetent, inexperienced, and as flat-out dangerous,

00:23:26.820 as Kamala Harris and comrade Tim Walsh are being shielded by the legacy media rather than shredded.

00:23:36.120 Are you listening?

00:23:37.700 Lester Holt, David Meir, and Nora O'Donnell from the Big Three, ABC, CBS, NBC.

00:23:46.220 Hey, hey, Nora.

00:23:48.640 Hey, David.

00:23:49.680 Hey, Lester.

00:23:51.100 You're supposed to be America's trusted news anchors.

00:23:56.820 But you are simply not doing your job.

00:24:00.660 You simply can't be trusted.

00:24:05.000 How about Anderson Cooper and Jon Stewart?

00:24:08.860 You guys are smart dudes.

00:24:10.380 Both of you lefties also purport to have some journalistic integrity.

00:24:15.640 But I'm not seeing any of that.

00:24:19.560 Just as inaction is a form of action, silence is a form of speaking.

00:24:30.160 In this case, not speaking out to ask the tough questions of the Harris-Waltz ticket.

00:24:38.800 And as for you, Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, Chris Wallace, and all of the rest of you,

00:24:46.980 who when you go to Kentucky Fried Chicken to order chicken wings, you ask for left wings only,

00:24:53.000 can you really make the case that the common folk of America with whom you are so far out of touch with

00:25:03.020 will be better off from both an economic and national security point of view under a current regime

00:25:11.540 that has ignited inflation, that's not in dispute, set off an unparalleled border chaos and crisis,

00:25:20.360 that's not in dispute, defunded the police and thereby fanned the flames of crime in our major cities,

00:25:27.420 likewise, that's on Kamala, fueled an energy crisis, of course, on Kamala, 0.66

00:25:33.500 and infected our schools proudly, mind you.

00:25:37.560 These people are proud of introducing their wokeness into our schools, corporations, and even the Pentagon 0.99

00:25:46.340 with woke policies out of touch with the mainstream, and in the case of the Pentagon,

00:25:53.160 creating severe national security problems.

00:25:56.460 In other words, Lester Holt, David Meir, O'Donnell, hey, don't forget Maggie Haberman,

00:26:07.660 John Carl, boy, we got a clip from him, but cue that up if you can.

00:26:13.100 I want to end this segment with that guy.

00:26:16.840 Do your freaking jobs as journalists, and then let the people decide whether they want to live

00:26:23.960 in Kamala Harris's America or Trump's America.

00:26:30.320 I know which one I want to live in.

00:26:33.880 I've been there.

00:26:35.420 I was inside of it.

00:26:37.040 I saw.

00:26:38.860 You were safe and secure in Trump's America.

00:26:41.980 You were safe and secure and prosperous in Trump's America.

00:26:46.260 Have you got that Denver?

00:26:48.000 Have you got that John Carl thing?

00:26:50.660 Play that if you can.

00:26:53.960 Maybe not.

00:27:00.020 Denver?

00:27:01.480 All right, we'll leave you with the cold open on that.

00:27:04.680 John Carl is a bugaboo for me.

00:27:06.720 The dude is like living in silk right now by writing nasty books about Donald Trump.

00:27:16.960 And the flip-flop that John Carl just did on a major network should not be tolerated

00:27:26.640 even on, I don't know, a local show in Wichita, Kansas.

00:27:32.860 And I love Wichita.

00:27:33.720 Journalistic integrity is what's lacking in this campaign to date.

00:27:41.820 And that press conference, which consisted of Kamala and Walt sitting, interviewing each other,

00:27:52.120 arguably one of the most embarrassing and lowest points of American journalism because journalists

00:27:59.920 didn't attack it.

00:28:00.920 Peter K. Navarro, in for Stephen K. Bannon, we'll be right back with the guest.

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00:28:10.380 We'll be right back with the guest.

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00:29:16.920 Action, action, action.

00:29:18.760 Two years ago, more than two years ago, that the president put Vice President Kamala Harris

00:29:25.860 in playing a critical role in terms of trying to stop the flow of migrants across the border

00:29:32.580 with the easy ones, the criminals, people who commit crimes, deport them.

00:29:36.980 But he said deporting 15 to 20 million people.

00:29:41.200 How do you actually do that?

00:29:42.900 Well, John, we have to start with the fact that we have a wide open southern border

00:29:46.280 because our border czar actually set a lot of open border policies.

00:29:51.040 You know, she wasn't the border czar. 0.68

00:29:52.960 Oh, that was what the media called her. 1.00

00:29:55.100 She assumed the title.

00:29:56.340 She had control over a lot of our border policy at a time when they were suspending.

00:30:01.100 Good for J.D. Vance.

00:30:04.760 John Carl.

00:30:05.840 John Carl, you are...

00:30:07.180 Come on, dude.

00:30:08.560 Come on.

00:30:09.520 Come on, dude.

00:30:10.180 That's not journalism.

00:30:11.580 That's like...

00:30:12.580 How do you live with yourself at night?

00:30:14.280 When you go to bed at night, do you think to yourself,

00:30:17.000 wow, I'm just like doing anything for money?

00:30:21.420 Just like Kamala Harris will do anything to get elected? 1.00

00:30:24.300 That's embarrassing, John Carl.

00:30:25.960 You have been embarrassed officially.

00:30:28.820 All right.

00:30:29.460 I am so pleased to have with me the former Secretary of the Interior, David Bernhardt.

00:30:40.660 He has a beautiful chapter in my new book, The New MAGA Deal.

00:30:48.600 The subtitle kind of says it all.

00:30:50.940 It's the unofficial deplorables guide to the Trump 2024 platform.

00:30:56.800 You can peruse it at Don Jr.'s website, newmagadeal.com.

00:31:01.920 Go on Amazon, Barnes & Noble.

00:31:04.860 David Bernhardt is one author of a number of former Trump officials

00:31:10.200 who wax eloquent on the various policies

00:31:14.580 where we trump Kamala Harris, 1.00

00:31:19.500 both in the polls and in the reality of benefiting our economy.

00:31:24.720 And so I want to welcome David and I want to immediately turn over the floor to him

00:31:31.280 to kind of describe what he's seen with respect to how the Harris-Biden regime

00:31:40.060 basically has taken your strong policies of Donald Trump that you implemented

00:31:48.060 and basically shredded them.

00:31:50.260 So wax a little eloquent.

00:31:52.840 Explain how it works in the Department of Interior at the, you know, boots on the ground,

00:31:58.860 how policies get implemented or don't get implemented.

00:32:01.940 Sir, it's great to have you with us.

00:32:04.480 Well, Peter, thanks for having me.

00:32:05.960 I'm thrilled to be here.

00:32:07.080 And, you know, President Trump began his vision for a strong energy policy,

00:32:15.820 a policy of energy independence, energy dominance, as he called it,

00:32:20.360 really with you and the team in the original 2016 campaign.

00:32:26.040 And from that moment of laying out a bold vision that was based on common sense elimination of red tape

00:32:37.840 that was unnecessary, the expansion of access to areas to make them available for energy development,

00:32:47.280 and really going all in on moving forward, particularly on federal lands and on deregulation.

00:32:55.440 By doing that, the president made some dramatic, dramatic improvements.

00:33:01.240 And we often forget, you know, just how consequential his term was.

00:33:05.660 As a matter of fact, if you go back and look, during his term, on average, the average American family

00:33:19.320 saved $2,500 a year on electricity costs and gasoline gas costs.

00:33:29.020 And if you look at more recently in the Biden administration, what you see is gasoline prices well above 50 percent

00:33:38.060 and electricity prices well above 25 percent.

00:33:42.520 So that stark contrast is, you know, where the rubber meets the road.

00:33:46.500 But to accomplish that, you know, the president did a whole host of things.

00:33:52.020 He opened up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge area that's called the Coastal Plain

00:33:57.920 to oil and gas leasing for the first time ever.

00:34:01.460 He issued through us regulations that expanded areas of development,

00:34:10.460 while at the same time dramatically increasing the speed that permits were issued, particularly permits to drill.

00:34:19.480 They increased in terms of speed by over 300 percent.

00:34:23.360 So on the ground, the Department of the Interior, which manages about one in every five acres of land,

00:34:30.920 really went boldly in delivering on the president's message.

00:34:37.020 And there were a whole series of things, you know.

00:34:38.900 You know, he authorized the Keystone Pipeline.

00:34:46.220 We informed the National Environmental Policy Act regulations to speed up.

00:34:52.400 He dramatically improved the Endangered Speeds Act regulations and processes.

00:34:57.840 All right, hang on, David, David, do me a favor.

00:35:04.700 Reboot your Skype.

00:35:06.780 We'll get you back immediately.

00:35:09.680 Your connection, it happens.

00:35:12.480 Just let's get you back with a fresh Skype connection.

00:35:17.020 We'll bring you right back in.

00:35:18.340 So while we're waiting for David Bernhardt, the issue here is how much drilling you can do safely.

00:35:34.360 And when Donald Trump reduced, dramatically reduced regulations in Denver, let me know as soon as you get David Bernhardt back, dramatically reduced regulations.

00:35:47.160 But it was never at the expense of environmental protection or efficiency.

00:35:54.060 It was simply we went in there and it's like there was just so many layers of regulation that slowed things down but really didn't offer any incremental protection.

00:36:05.520 And the statistic that jumps out at you from David Bernhardt is that the Department of Interior accounts manages one out of five acres, one out of five acres in the entire United States.

00:36:21.540 It's like if you live in cities, you think everywhere is as crowded as cities, but it doesn't take long, and that's why they call it flyover country.

00:36:35.080 When you get up in a plane and you start flying, there's like these vast expanses of land, and a lot of that is managed by the federal government for stewardship.

00:36:47.420 Okay, so let's bring David back in, sorry for the technical delay, but David, come on back here, resume where you left off if you can possibly do that.

00:37:02.800 Well, here's the bottom line, just to cut to the chase.

00:37:05.320 The federal government controls a large amount of land that is available and accessible for energy development.

00:37:15.000 And essentially, the Biden administration's policy and the Harris's policy is essentially as little involvement and utilization of those lands as possible.

00:37:30.100 It's just that simple.

00:37:31.060 Trump took a very different approach, and they have systematically, over the last three years, tried to undo virtually everything President Trump did.

00:37:47.340 And now, you know, as they move into campaign season, they're committed, you know, they're trying to modulate their thinking.

00:37:59.140 But here's the difference.

00:38:00.840 President Trump from 2015 through his campaign, today, if you go to Agenda 47, he lays out specifically what he would do on energy.

00:38:13.520 And he has a bold, bold vision.

00:38:17.120 If you look at Harris, what you see is she even actually sued the Obama administration because she thought their energy policies were too aggressive as an attorney general.

00:38:33.440 She pushed back on every initiative that President Trump initiated when she was in the Senate.

00:38:42.380 She signed, as a co-sponsor, the Green New Deal.

00:38:47.020 And she said under no uncertain terms, she would ban fracking.

00:38:53.900 And the truth of the matter is the innovation associated with fracking on first state and private lands and then federal lands is what drove the energy revolution that we saw from the mid-2000s until today.

00:39:12.540 And it's what drove tremendous economic growth.

00:39:17.200 Now, for the next 82 days, she'll probably say, hey, I'm much more moderate on these issues.

00:39:24.520 But here's the thing.

00:39:26.260 Both Xi and President Trump have specific track records, have specific visions, and have specific outcomes.

00:39:33.540 And the contrast simply could not be greater in terms of, one, delivering higher energy and gasoline prices for the American people, and another, actually delivering savings, substantial savings, over his tenure.

00:39:52.340 And I think that's what we ought to be focused on.

00:39:56.700 You said something that's really important about fracking, that it was an innovation.

00:40:03.220 People, particularly younger folks, don't understand that fracking didn't exist.

00:40:08.140 And just as a little personal history, I actually got my start back at Harvard on the policy issue when, after the oil embargo in the 70s, we were basically exposed to threats from Saudi Arabia, the OPEC cartel.

00:40:28.160 And the first job I was ever given as a doctoral student was to figure out how to reduce our oil import dependence and thereby reduce our social security threat.

00:40:43.240 And here's the punchline, David.

00:40:45.240 Never, ever did I ever dream at that point in time that we would be able to be strategically energy dominant.

00:40:53.880 It was like, that would have been a fantasy if I had said that.

00:40:57.380 If I got up and say, yeah, we could do that, I would have been laughed out of Harvard.

00:41:03.160 They probably would never have given me a friggin' degree.

00:41:07.500 And so the fracking thing is a really big deal.

00:41:11.920 I want to come to that in the next segment we're going to do, but I want to finish up and turn the floor back to you for the next 60 to 90 seconds.

00:41:20.260 How much oil comes from federal leasing in terms of the whole for the United States?

00:41:27.640 How important is federal leasing, sir?

00:41:30.000 Well, federal leasing represents, depending on the time, over 20 to 24 percent of the oil produced in the United States.

00:41:41.160 And that's a very big, very big number.

00:41:44.800 And then when you take and recognize that, you know, under Trump's vision, there'd be additional leasing, which means that that percentage would go up over time, that's a very important component.

00:41:56.880 And it's a critical component when you look at the development of our national security, our economic opportunity.

00:42:07.020 And it also allows communities to thrive that may not have other resources.

00:42:15.400 And I think that that's something to really be cognizant of.

00:42:19.880 There are communities throughout the West that depend on the development, the responsible development of natural resources for their hopes, their futures, and their dreams.

00:42:31.800 And having the ability to move forward with projects is very important to those communities and those people.

00:42:39.040 And we can't forget that as we think about these lands.

00:42:42.380 All right, sir, when we come back, we are going to delve into the world of fracking in a little bit more detail.

00:42:51.040 I'm with former Secretary of Interior David Bernhardt.

00:42:55.080 He's one of the co-authors of The New MAGA Deal at newmagadeal.com.

00:42:59.800 I'm Peter Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon.

00:43:03.680 We'll be right back.

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00:45:43.920 Let's get back to the business of Kamala Harris's ban on fracking.

00:45:49.100 We've got the former Secretary of Interior, David Bernhardt, under President Donald Trump.

00:45:57.300 And let me make a statement here.

00:45:59.620 And you see if you agree with this.

00:46:02.040 The bulk of fracking is done in the state of Pennsylvania.

00:46:08.920 When Kamala Harris banned fracking, it's a direct attack on the state of Pennsylvania.

00:46:14.760 It's not surprising that she wants to back away from that, given that Pennsylvania may well determine the outcome of the election.

00:46:22.240 But fracking is critical to the economic and national security of this country.

00:46:30.240 Secretary Bernhardt, tell us what fracking is, and am I right or wrong?

00:46:34.740 Well, first off, you're absolutely right from a political perspective.

00:46:39.980 Pennsylvania is key for energy development, and it happens to be key for the presidential election.

00:46:47.080 The truth of the matter is the innovation of fracking unleashed energy resources in Texas, in the Permian, in New Mexico, and then obviously throughout Appalachia and even in areas like North Dakota.

00:47:04.440 But from a political reality, Pennsylvania, given its importance politically, is absolutely central, in my opinion, to her newfound thinking.

00:47:15.400 But essentially what fracking does is allow for an opportunity for resource extraction to be done at a higher, a greater utilization by creating fissures in the underground resource that allow for greater extraction of natural gas or oil.

00:47:40.040 And as a consequence to that, we have seen a dramatic increase in our ability to develop these critical natural resources.

00:47:52.600 And that is what led to the energy revolution that we've seen.

00:47:59.020 That's what's underlighted.

00:48:02.040 And as a consequence to that, there's a longstanding effort by the environmental community to move to concepts called basically keep it in the ground to prevent fossil fuel development.

00:48:15.500 And she is from a line of thinking, her entire political history is aligned with this notion that the critical resources we have should not be utilized for the greater good of our country.

00:48:33.500 I mean, that's been her position throughout her political career.

00:48:38.740 And so recently she's claimed that she's seen the light and she no longer supports a ban, according to her campaign staff.

00:48:50.280 Now, but what that doesn't tell you is what is she actually for?

00:48:54.960 You know, in the earlier segment, Peter, you mentioned your experience at Harvard and the thought that there might be an innovation for, you know,

00:49:07.860 greater national security through the invention of fracking.

00:49:15.840 Well, I actually was in the White House in the Bush administration, and I can tell you,

00:49:20.260 at one point, the gasoline hit $4 a gallon.

00:49:25.560 And everybody was looking around saying, what are we going to do?

00:49:28.380 And at that time, Alan Greenspan's view of the future of energy was wall-to-wall LNG import facilities on both coasts.

00:49:39.960 And that was the future of our energy in theory.

00:49:44.500 But at that time, at that moment in time, innovators were developing, entrepreneurs were developing this new technology that would dramatically change our energy policy picture.

00:50:00.860 And what President Trump did is took that innovation and began to apply it on federal lands to blossom our energy portfolio.

00:50:10.740 And what Biden and Harris have done is taken that future, and they're trying to constrict it, constrain it, limit it.

00:50:19.660 And they're just getting started.

00:50:21.440 Yeah, and it's an innovation that nobody really saw coming.

00:50:29.620 And what you're saying is that the federal government has a tremendous power to implement the policy of energy development,

00:50:40.880 that it has a real material effect on world prices and, therefore, down the road, consumer prices and the welfare of basic Americans.

00:50:52.100 And when you say she repeatedly, we're talking about Kamala Harris from the Californication state of California.

00:51:02.460 And that's her DNA.

00:51:04.860 You can't advance in the state of California unless you're adamantly opposed to things like fracking and even just basic standard traditional oil development.

00:51:18.180 That's who she is.

00:51:20.060 So our job is to expose her hypocrisy.

00:51:27.540 Last question.

00:51:28.800 In terms of the Keystone Pipeline, and I think we're going to have to carry this over just to the start of the next hour,

00:51:37.640 but I want to get your quick take on what the Keystone Pipeline means and why we have this repeated battle.

00:51:45.440 And one of the first things I did in the White House, David, literally, was help write an executive order to get the Keystone Pipeline not only going,

00:51:54.680 but to be built with U.S.-produced iron and steel, right?

00:52:01.540 That was one of the coolest things we did in the first week when we were in office.

00:52:06.360 So when we come back, let's spend a few minutes on that, and then we'll let you go fight the battle out there.

00:52:14.840 But David Bernhardt, co-author of The New Maga Deal, newmagadeal.com.

00:52:20.320 I'm Peter K. Navarro in the War Room for Stephen K. Bannon.

00:52:24.580 We'll be right back, the top of the hour, to talk a little bit about the Keystone Pipeline and Kamala's crashing of it.

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Bannon's War Room - August 16, 2024

Episode 3836： Diary Of Disturbing Disinformation And Dangerous Delusions

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