Episode 3846: The Left Deems MAGA Illiterate
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Summary
In this episode of The War Room, Stephen K. Banff and Natalie G. Winters are joined by reporter Julie Kelly to discuss the disappearance of at least 24 Secret Service agents' cell phones, a new report from the agency s internal affairs unit, and a breaking news story about a group receiving government funding to fund research into pandemic pathogens.
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Someone should have told Donald Trump that the president's job under Article 2 of the
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Constitution — someone should have told Donald Trump.
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Donald Trump would be able to weaponize the Department of Justice to go after his political
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He could even turn the FBI into his own personal police force.
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop
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And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Winters hosting today, Tuesday, August 20th, in the year of our Lord 2024.
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Honored to be coming at you live from Palm Beach, Florida.
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The studio is going to let me know when we have her up.
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Until then, you guys saw that cold open question at its finest, if I've ever seen it, which
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I guess is fitting if you're hosting the DNC in the city of Chicago.
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After all, it's Saul Alinsky who came up with accuse your enemy of what you're guilty of.
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And I think Jamie Raskin, for all the years that he's spent bloviating about lawfare and
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how much of a threat to that very coveted word democracy President Donald Trump is, when the
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teleprompter went out, you didn't really have much to say because I think everything you
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I don't know, but you guys here in the War Room, we're not scripted because what we're
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We don't need consultants and pundits and all the executives at the mainstream media telling
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But there is a breaking news story that I'd wanted to get into until we get Julie Kelly
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up, which we'll discuss later in the show with Mike Benz.
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But it has to do with a group that you guys know I've done a lot of investigative reporting
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into, that is EcoHealth Alliance, the New York-based nonprofit that received taxpayer dollars,
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your taxpayer dollars, a la Anthony Fauci, to fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan
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Now, you may remember the grand display that you saw bipartisan lawmakers have because they
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But there's breaking news just coming out yesterday that EcoHealth Alliance is still receiving your
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taxpayer dollars to fund research on pandemic-causing pathogens.
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Again, a perfect example, not just of the regime protecting its own, but the real buried lead
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With this entire story is that one of the grants that is a $3 million grant that they're still
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funding is housed at, you guessed it, Georgetown University, the same place where Anthony Fauci
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went running to after we kicked him out of NIAID.
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Someone else who I'm sure knows very well, no conspiracies, no coincidences, is Julie Kelly,
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Okay, I know you had some breaking news on your Twitter today walking us through how the findings
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coming out of the Secret Service kind of covering up their missing text messages, how it's not
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Can you walk us through the latest on that front?
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So there are records that appear to confirm what I reported on a few weeks ago.
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I think you and I talked about this, is that not only did the Secret Service and top DHS
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officials, of course, the Secret Service is under the purview of the Department of Homeland
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Not only did they delete those text messages, the Secret Service text messages belonging to
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at least 24 Secret Service officials, including the director at the time, including Kimberly
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Cheadle, who was on the Protective Services Bureau on January 6th.
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They tried to keep that from the DHS Inspector General, Joseph Kofari, who was investigating, wanting
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those texts, and they had to fess up and say those texts were gone.
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But also records demonstrate that DHS and Secret Service tried to prevent Joseph Kofari, who was
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investigating the Secret Service's role on January 6th, tried to prevent him from accessing
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all of their emails and other correspondence related to January 6th.
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And then, of course, Natalie, as I think you and I also talked about, and I hinted at this
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a few weeks ago, but other records confirm that Secretary Mayorkas wanted the, get this,
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the entire report, investigation, the findings that Joseph Kofari came up with, wanted the entire
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report redacted before it was released to the public.
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But we would have gotten a, you know, I think it was a hundred and some odd page report.
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Furthermore, DHS wanted partial redactions to the report that went to Congress.
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Now, of course, you know, top DHS officials should not have any involvement in independent inquiry
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into their own department's handling of anything.
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Here, they really tried to prevent Kofari from getting the records.
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And I think once that, that news started to go public, Natalie, and DHS pulled back, allowed
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the report to be released to the public with some redactions.
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But we're also going to keep fighting those redactions because we're entitled to know everything
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Unfortunately, this trustful, pretty corrupt agency seek service and what, what he found out
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I mean, the redactions are so in your face, but I think there's sort of a, a broader, almost
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In other words, every time you come on this program, it's not like you're here to report
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the, you know, talking points that are diligently being provided to you by DHS or FBI.
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We're kind of getting lucky by being able to piece a lot of this together.
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How does that sort of square, I think, with this narrative that, you know, MAGA and all
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these right-wing extremists are being, you know, progressively radicalized and becoming
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conspiracy theorists, but they're not giving us insight, right, into any of these investigations.
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How do they sort of reconcile those competing narratives?
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Well, because by the time we get our facts out and we've been called conspiracy theorists
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for years, which, of course, those of us who have called January 6th an inside job, those
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of us who questioned, were very suspicious about all of a sudden these missing text messages
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from January 5th and 6th, that were deleted on Joe Biden's watch.
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It did not happen when Donald Trump was still in office.
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The purge of these texts happened started to begin late January and ran for several weeks
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About the investigation went to look at not only Donald Trump's speech at the Ellipse and
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the Secret Service presence and role there, Capitol protests as well.
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And then the big scandal, the so-called pipe bomb, found outside the DNC on January 6th, where
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Kamala Harris so inexplicably went up to Capitol that morning and went to the DNC and stayed there
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until she was evacuated after about one o'clock.
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And then later today, Representative Barry Loudermilk, who is head of the subcommittee looking into
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January 6th and the January 6th Select Committee, and Senator Charles Grassley wrote a letter to
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Mayorkas finding a full accounting of the H.S. Secret Service's stonewalling of the Kafari
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investigation and expressing concern, rightfully so, he also will thwart an internal investigation into the
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attempted assassination of Donald Trump on July 13th.
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So this is a developing, unraveling scandal, not just the pipe bomb, the service text, but now you have
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that Senator Grassley, I think, very deep concerns, and I think on behalf of all of us at the H.S. and
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Secret Service will not cooperate in any investigation of what happened on July 13th.
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You also had some interesting kind of buried leads in the impeachment report that House Republicans
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put out not too long ago, how it all sort of links to just interagency cover-up, Hunter Biden's,
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you know, ties to this intricate web. Can you walk the audience through that, too?
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So it also did confirm, Natalie, that D.C. U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves, who was appointed by Joe Biden,
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he was the one who refused to cooperate with Special Counsel David Weiss when he brought
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recommendations to charge Hunter Biden for tax crimes committed in Washington in 2014 and 2015.
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That was further confirmation of Matthew Graves. Now, I'll have a big piece on Matthew Graves, Natalie,
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because here's a terrifying thought. If Mala Harris wins, there is a very good chance that Matthew Graves,
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who has been rounding up J6ers since he got into that office on November 2021,
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Natalie, his first act after he was confirmed by the Senate was to charge CNN for contempt of Congress.
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That's the very first thing that Matthew Graves did in office. Since then, he's rounded up.
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Now, the caseload is 1,500 J6ers. Of course, he brought criminal charges against Peter Navarro.
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His wife is a very influential nonprofit, radical nonprofit in Washington. She is extremely close
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with Kamala Harris. And also, Matthew Graves and Doug Emhoff worked in law firm before Doug Emhoff had to
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leave after Kamala Harris won, not won, took the vice presidency. Sorry. So there's a very good chance
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that this out-of-control prosecutor who protected the Bidens, but continues to try to punish Trump
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supporters, voters, and his closest associates. He could very well take over the DOJ in the horrifying
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prospect of Kamala Harris winning the election in November.
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Julie, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything that you're working on.
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Your Twitter feed is always on fire. Where can they go to do that?
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Thanks, Natalie. My Twitter is Julie underscore Kelly, too, where I do post a lot of breaking news,
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court documents, etc. My work can be found at my sub-staff, declassified with Julie Kelly. And
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also, I write for real, clear investigations. And I have several pieces up about the DNC pipe bomb
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and also Matthew Graves, as well. Julie, thank you so much for joining us. As always,
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we'll have you back on soon. For sure. Thanks, Natalie. Of course.
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Warren Posse, you guys know we came out, I would say, on fire against the House impeachment report
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that they dropped yesterday. Oh, I don't know, about two, three, four years late with evidence
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that, frankly, they didn't even gather. They copy and pasted from independent media outlets
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that we've been telling you here in the war room for years. We were, of course, I think crowned the
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top spread of misinformation by the New York Times for saying so. But they're sort of running cover,
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running a barrage of op-eds in various conservative news outlets today, saying that if we let Joe Biden
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get away with these crimes, that we're setting a bad precedent on the global stage, that we're
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allowing global corruption to continue to proliferate. Now, of course, I immediately thought
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of Ukraine. But I agree with that framing. I agree with that take. But I think the issue there,
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the variable that we need to focus on is House Republicans, right? They're the ones who are
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fundamentally unserious. They're the ones who are not taking this impeachment inquiry seriously.
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You've seen it with the witnesses they've called, or frankly, not called. You saw it with the
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whistleblower we had on this show last week talking about how this is pervasive among all the so-called
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investigative committees that they have going on up on Capitol Hill, which frankly have produced
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absolutely nothing in terms of actual results. I know we're used to Fox News setting the goalposts
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for what accountability looks like. And accountability may look like a strongly worded letter or a harshly
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worded tweet or a nice viral media clip. We're not living in the Fox News controlled opposition media
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days anymore. You have the war room. You have actual MAGA grassroots patriots who
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worked hard, gave you their money to send you to Congress to actually do something, to not betray
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Gowdy light. I mean, the Benghazi committee makes what these people are looking, people are doing, look
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like child's play. It's absolutely ridiculous. And these House Republicans that have the nerve,
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like Speaker Johnson tweeting over the weekend, oh, another illegal alien was allowed to enter this country
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who had, you know, 20 plus convictions of murder and gang rape, whatever. Yeah, do something about it. They want to
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blame it on Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. I'm all for the talking points, but you guys have have
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responsibility too. We didn't elect you to just tweet angrily about people that we frankly didn't even elect, Joe
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Biden and Kamala Harris. We certainly didn't elect you to put out strongly worded letters when patriots are being
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rounded up, sent to prison, Steve Bannon included. And you guys just want to send out a letter that's
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My choice. In my perfect world, every Republican is out of the country and all the immigrants come in.
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That's what I want. It's never going to happen. That's what I want.
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But we're all immigrants. We all came from somewhere else.
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Kamala and I are committed to strengthening legal immigration.
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Maybe a Freudian slip or maybe just saying the quiet part out loud.
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I think Biden has overseen probably the largest mass invasion, not wave of immigration or whatever
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euphemistic spin they want to put on it in this country's history and make no mistake.
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The worst part of it isn't even what's happening now.
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It's what's going to happen after, no matter who wins the presidency, because they're going to push,
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as you know, I think probably the favorite word in all of Washington, D.C. is amnesty, amnesty, amnesty.
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That or a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform.
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If you ever hear that, you should be really spooked.
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Someone who has heard that word probably way too often, he was, of course, a senior advisor to President Trump
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on all things domestic policy, holding the line on everything trade, immigration, all the fights that matter
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in a post-Trump America, I would say, is Theo Wold, also now at the Claremont Institute.
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Theo, we're walking through some of the radical, truly radical, for all the times I've ever said that,
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I think it's been an understatement, immigration policy proposals coming out of the DNC codified in their platform
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just yesterday. Can you walk the audience through this U.S. Citizenship Act and just how truly scary
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Yeah, certainly. Thanks for having me on, Natalie.
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I think, I mean, really, to start, it's impossible to understate how radical the Democrats' policy platform
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And the best place to understand the radicalism is to look at the immigration policy parts of the platform.
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As you said, they're embracing wholeheartedly the Citizenship Act.
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That was a bill proposed by House Democrats unanimously, and it does, among other things,
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among other things. I'm just going to give you the top slices here.
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15.5 million illegal aliens who entered unlawfully under President Biden will be getting citizenship.
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Okay, number one. Number two, they'll be giving free housing, free health care,
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free legal representation to unlawfully entered illegal aliens.
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And then they do these other things, like this really strange Orwellian phrase they use.
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They got any mention of illegal aliens or unlawful entry from the Immigration and Naturalization Act.
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And instead, they use this term, a prospective lawful immigrant.
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A legally present prospective immigrant is repeated throughout the bill.
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Essentially, what they're trying to do is eliminate any distinction between citizens and foreign nationals.
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And they do that in a variety of ways, including expediting the ability of illegal aliens to receive green cards
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So, as you know, under current law, if you have a felony or a series of misdemeanors,
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you're ineligible to change your status if you're here illegally.
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Or even if you were to marry an American citizen, you cannot move into a different status category.
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So, even if you're a violent offender, you will be eligible for U.S. citizenship.
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And then here's the kicker, the part that I think a lot of Americans will just absolutely find totally shocking,
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is they will pay for, using U.S. taxpayer dollars,
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to go and collect illegal aliens who were removed from the country
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and sent to their home countries of origin and bring them back to the United States
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so that those illegal aliens can also be made citizens.
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This is a fundamental, radical remaking of the United States.
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I mean, it's effectively dissolving the sovereignty of this country.
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And just from your perspective, again, like I said,
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as someone who has been in these rooms hearing the negotiations,
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is this Democrats pandering to sort of the, you know,
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new wave of illegal immigrant vote or the, you know,
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Or is this something darker that sort of represents just an unrecognizable shift
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that the Democratic Party has taken that is just fundamentally anti-American?
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And I think, you know, where the former point is,
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is this just, you know, the typical bargaining positioning of the Democrat Party
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vis-a-vis weak Republicans who, you know, for all intents and purposes,
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want to give on amnesty, but their base won't allow them?
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But really what this is about, go and read the 92-page policy document
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It really is like a witch's brew, right, of Marxist economic theory,
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of feminist and queer theory targeting families and children,
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and then of this open borders policy that really wants to wipe away
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any distinction between a tax-paying American citizen
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entitled to the full protection and the privileges of the law,
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and foreign nationals who may come from any corner of the globe,
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but suddenly the Democrats want to make eligible for every benefit,
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every privilege, every right under the Constitution.
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oh, well, you know, the Democrats want to fundamentally,
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And the question is, do Republicans have the will,
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And this amnesty fight is something that I think always comes up,
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and it seems like Republicans always fail to lack a spine or a backbone
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You know, even, say, President Trump wins, right?
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We still have a massive, massive crisis ahead of us,
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And the Democrats are already admitting that they want to give them citizenship.
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You were on the show just last week talking about how they're giving them,
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you know, full citizenship rights, including, you know,
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most importantly, the right to vote just in time for the election.
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But just sort of walk the audience through the feasibility of mass deportations.
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And is that really the only solution for this, or is there any other way?
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No, I mean, I think, so the feasibility question, I think,
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is probably the wrong place to start the discussion right now.
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The real place to start is to say, what do we mean when we say mass deportations?
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Does that just mean, like, a handful of convicted rapists or child sex offenders?
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Or does it mean a couple of cartel agents or drug dealers?
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Do we mean the 15 million people who the Biden administration
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and their co-belligerents in the far left encouraged to come across
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through the Darien Gap who provided resources, food, water, maps, GPS services,
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Do we really mean it when we say mass deportations to remove all of those individuals,
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And I think that's the real debate even happening right now
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in closed-door sessions among Republican lawmakers,
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is can we just buy off a few more, you know, Republican voters
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by using this term mass, and what we really mean is just a few thousand people here and there?
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Or are American citizens going to demand, no, no, no, no, no.
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When we say mass, we mean the tens of millions of people
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who are here unlawfully, illegally, and the Democrats intend to make voting citizens.
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And then, you know, on the feasibility question,
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and I think, you know, it's obviously important to be discreet
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is to not give an advantage to the far left or the Democrat AGs
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but there's a lot of tools now technologically that we didn't have,
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you know, 10 or 15 years ago to ensure that, you know,
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illegal aliens who are here using social services,
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using emergency rooms don't have access to the largesse
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They required hospitals to start verifying status,
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before they, you know, delivered free health care in emergency rooms.
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And lo and behold, a lot of migrants stopped showing up at hospitals
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And I think those are the kinds of tools that we can use
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to discourage illegal aliens from getting a free ride here in the United States
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and really sending home this message that the border is closed.
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The DNC is, of course, making a huge display and show of, you know,
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Republicans for Harris, all the washed up D.C.-based lobbyists,
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with ties to the Chinese Communist Party because, of course.
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But your thoughts, Stephanie Grisham is the big one
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that they're wheeling out either tonight or tomorrow,
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on what these people, these Republicans, are endorsing.
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Yeah, I think that's the right way to put this in context, right?
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Like every convention has, they'll troop across formers or, you know,
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they're registered with the other party and look at what they say
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What's different now is that these people, Stephanie Grisham, you know,
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if you recall the former White House press secretary under Trump
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what's different about these kinds of characters is that it's all,
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but remember what they're doing by being on stage.
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Adam Kinzinger or the former mayor of Mesa, Arizona, John Giles,
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to the most radical, the most radical policy proposals
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is the most radical ticket in the history of the country.
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It makes Eugene McCarthy, you know, look like Jesse Helms.
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These people are radical leftists and Stephanie Grisham and Adam Kinzinger and John Giles
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are going on stage and providing top cover and sanction for that.
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And really, like, at the end of the day, these people shouldn't be trusted.
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They're grifters, they're former, you know, charlatans.
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And really, the only reason they're there is because they're motivated by an animus
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Theo, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything that you're working on,
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Yeah, on X at Real Theo Wold and at the Claremont Center for the American Way of Life.
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He's laying out all the radical immigration proposals.
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Although I guess the scariest part is that the immigration,
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it's not even radical enough for the protesters outside.
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I guess they don't even, they don't like walls because they're scaling them.
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And that's the youth that's going to take over the party soon enough.
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But we'll have you back on to get into all that.
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Warren Posse, make sure you check out birchgold.com slash Bannon
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By the way, just to the point that Theo was making,
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I believe it was Anthony Scaramucci, rest in peace to him too,
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tweeting out that three presidents to speak at the DNC this week.
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that's absolutely fantastic that no members of the globalist,
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those that are explicit about their party affiliation,
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never joined the RNC because we took over the Republican Party.
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to try to claw back all of the victories that we've made
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I always love to say this mass weapon of illegal immigration,
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can always sort of draw, I think, the Trojan horse comparison,
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except the only distinguishing difference there is that,
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well, at least the city of Troy actually had fortified walls
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We're joined by Mike Benz after this short break.
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but I'm honored to be on the receiving end of that.
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they love to use, groups that's, per the headline,
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Can you walk the audience through the new report?
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It is a major initiative by effectively rogue elements
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a North Korea-style control over the news programming
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that children and adults later in life experience.
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or you name it, and the poor little New York Times
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by all this mean, you know, nasty misinformation
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with this branding device called media literacy
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Now, you know, when you hear the phrase media literacy,
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you think that means underprivileged inner-city school kids
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And so there have now been over a dozen U.S. states
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since 2016 that have passed mandatory media literacy laws
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requiring K-12 students in those states' public schools
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to be trained about what they can and can't read
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the reason that it's such a dystopic, you know,
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So if there's something true posted in Fox News
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They have a cartel over the sources that can be cited.
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And Newzella is one of these big media literacy business,
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And they are a professional censorship organization.
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to teach students about what kind of news to read.
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demanding that advertisers stop advertising on Facebook
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hate speech, misinformation, and disinformation.
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how I would argue this is sort of the logical extension,
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and we are now well into the maturity of this plan.
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Literally, these people all got together in a room.
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I do weekly subscriber lectures on this exact topic
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where I go through these meetings these people had
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And the strategy is to bankrupt alternative news producers
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and to government subsidize pro-government media news producers.
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And so part of this prong involves advertising boycotts.
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As we saw USAID, FFO published a study on USAID,
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in a 97-page document calling for advertiser outreach
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to get advertisers to kill revenue to places like the War Room.
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But then the flip side of that is media sustainability.
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Many of them come through an entity called First Draft,
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in more ways than I can probably have time to hallucinate here.
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is a North Korea-style, state-funded media surround sound
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of any media institution that opposes the party line.
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is sort of a response to the 2020 election in January 6th stuff?
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So it was actually a response to the 2016 election.
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under Trump's nose without him really being him
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Again, they use these kind of camouflage terms.
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with universities that have these government touch points,
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I remember going into the White House Budget Office
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And so there's this whole sort of academic jargon.
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Frankly, this is the way Marxism set in across...
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And many sort of Marxist sympathetic ideologies
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hey, there's $45 million that the state of California
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Now, they definitely upscaled it all ahead of 2020.
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Stanford University, the University of Washington,
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hundreds of thousands of accounts, effectively,
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And I actually just posted on my X timeline today
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of disinformation and misinformation to Finland.
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of having total information control in a democracy.
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and elections are determined by hearts and minds,
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then whoever controls the flow and framing of news
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that's sitting in the American Empire's closet.
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which I think sort of really deals a death blow
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That misinformation is like the greatest existential threat
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let alone when it's state-subsidized pre-bunking.
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on the interesting convergence and similarities
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between the BLM riots and stuff that we've seen,
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going on overseas and Tim Waltz's ties to all this.
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not this time ties to the Chinese Communist Party,