Former Vice President Joe Biden joins CNN's Jake Tapper Alex Castellanos to discuss the impact of Michelle Obama's "Do Something" message at the Democratic National Convention, and why she should have been on the campaign trail last night.
00:00:28.020So how is this election going to be any different?
00:00:29.920And how, you know, how is sort of the messaging from this campaign making you sort of change your approach to how you might have done things in the past?
00:16:27.980I noticed that you've done an investigation into the possibility that illegals are actually being registered to vote for the forthcoming election.
00:16:37.840This seems like an astonishing, explosive story, and it's something that we've been hinting at here on the war room for many months.
00:16:50.040Well, good morning, and thanks for having me on.
00:16:52.100So, I was suspicious from the beginning when Joe Biden, on day one, announced that he wasn't going to deport anybody.
00:16:58.540I'm like, why would you do that on day one?
00:17:00.200And clearly, he wanted to signal to the cartels, get people here, and they don't have to run anymore.
00:17:06.940We'll take care of them, and that's exactly what happened.
00:17:09.180They come to Border Patrol, and then Border Patrol moves them, and they're logistically moved to the states that they're preferred to be in by the Biden administration.
00:17:19.760And I've always wondered why, and the only answer that I ever come up with is voting.
00:17:23.660And sure enough, here in Texas, we started becoming suspicious when we saw these nonprofits were out on state police property where they register people for a driver's license, and people can get registered to vote under a normal process.
00:17:39.340We were curious, why would you have nonprofits registering people when it's done at the Department of Motor Vehicles offices?
00:17:47.200They're already giving you your driver's license.
00:17:50.480Why would you need another special nonprofit group registering people unless the people being registered outside are not qualified to be registered inside?
00:18:18.600And if you are able to affirm your investigation and definitively conclude that this has been taking place, will you be reaching out to other states?
00:18:31.020Because as you say, the whole theory here behind the displacement of illegals across the United States of America is to bolster the Democrat vote.
00:18:42.860Will you be reaching out to your opposite numbers in other states and sharing your findings?
00:18:51.680I'm sounding – yeah, sure, but I'm sounding the warning bells now.
00:18:54.720This is happening all over the country.
00:18:55.960My guess is this was a plan by the Obama-Biden regime to bring in people to vote because they can't win elections now without some of these illegal voting schemes that they put together, including mail-in ballots, which they did last time.
00:19:14.720So I'm letting people know this is going on in Texas.
00:19:19.900Don't be surprised or shocked that it's going to happen all over the country because that was the plan from the very beginning.
00:19:26.540So everyone should be on notice that there are plans to have illegals to vote by the millions, and especially in states like Texas, Florida, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, the places that they need to win, they're going to get illegals to vote.
00:19:41.600We need to be on guard, and we need to do what we can right now, not after the election.
00:19:46.220If we wait like we did with mail-in ballots until after the election, which most states did.
00:19:50.700In Texas, we did not, but in most states, they waited too long.
00:19:53.360There's nothing that can be done after the election.
00:19:55.060It's just almost impossible to get the courts to come in and to recognize when – even if there's been real theft of votes, to actually do something about it.
00:20:07.540Your fellow Texan, Chip Roy, is pushing the SAVE Act, right, especially in the hypothesis of being able to tack it on the back of some kind of continuing resolution.
00:20:19.940And that's to do with – his SAVE Act is to do with voter integrity, ensuring that only American citizens can vote.
00:20:26.360Are you in touch with Congressman Roy?
00:20:30.880But are you feeding in to him at this stage, your findings on this investigation?
00:20:35.920Well, so we are not feeding our investigation findings to anybody yet because we're not done.
00:20:41.000But certainly as soon as we're done, anything that we can do to help him get that passed, there's nothing more important – nothing is more important than secure elections and making sure that it's really – that the legal people are voting in legal elections and not having people come from all over the world to affect and impact and change our elections to make sure that Kamala Harris and others like her win.
00:21:04.440That's not the way this country was set up.
00:21:06.440And so, yes, we will do everything we can because it is the most fundamental issue to the survival of a true constitutional republic is having the ability to know that your vote matters.
00:21:17.280A couple of weeks ago, we had Mark Mitchell on from Rasmussen Reports who announced – and I cannot get this out of my head, sir – he had a poll in which they were asking Americans their voting intentions, you know, Democrat, Republican, usual thing.
00:21:35.980And they put on a final question after asking, are you – do you intend to vote on November the 5th?
00:21:45.060And 9% of those who said they intended to vote in the November election said on the direct question, are you a citizen of the United States?
00:22:00.520This could fundamentally change, you know, I think your investigation here, and not only yours but provide across America those who are looking into this.
00:22:09.100That fact, 9% of potential – the potential electorate could actually be illegal, would be transformative if true.
00:22:18.600So it is absolutely imperative, I think, to do something about it.
00:22:21.800Is President Trump giving you much support on this?
00:22:26.800So this is a Texas thing, although I've been in communication with some of these people about this.
00:22:36.360I truly believe that this was planned out by, you know, the Biden administration, Barack Obama, the whole group planned this thing from start to finish from day one.
00:22:46.860And they've been working on it for the last four years.
00:22:49.000They didn't wait until day two of Joe Biden's administration.
00:22:52.600They started day one when they announced no more deportation.
00:22:55.400So this has been a plan to change the election so that we have a one-party country, so that the Democrats don't have to worry about real elections anymore.
00:23:04.340And then a few people like Barack Obama and others get to pick who's running the show.
00:23:10.800And so we don't have a real constitutional republic.
00:23:16.460And that's the direction that if people don't get out and vote, and then they don't pay attention in their state to the fact that illegals are going to try to vote.
00:23:25.260And, look, it's a crime, I guess, in most states.
00:23:28.300It is in my state for, one, to encourage illegals to vote, to commit voter fraud.
00:23:34.860And then it's also a crime to actually vote illegally.
00:23:36.980So we will prosecute and punish people that try to turn our elections into something other than a free and fair election.
00:23:44.620And we need to send that message out to people that want to vote like this illegally.
00:23:50.880Those 9% that plan on voting, they need to know, hey, you can do that.
00:23:54.180You may try to do that, but you may end up in prison for it.
00:23:56.940Is that what you want to take the risk on?
00:23:58.780And if you're helping, aiding and abetting that, some of the punishments for that are a lot greater.
00:24:03.280You know, listening to you talk, a thought strikes me because it's not only the Biden regime that is encouraging illegals to register to vote.
00:24:13.980You also have the NGOs, the liberal NGOs.
00:24:16.420We don't need to name them, but everyone watching the show will know they're quite open about their pro-migration stance.
00:24:26.080But if they are doing this, if they are registering illegals to vote, which, as you say, in Texas is illegal and in many other states,
00:24:34.860and they're displacing people across the United States with a view to impact the general election,
00:24:41.560seeing as this is a criminal activity taking place across state lines,
00:24:45.740I wonder whether a future Donald Trump-led administration, that is to say, if the weaponized DOJ falls into Donald Trump's hands,
00:24:56.380whether there are RICO implications here for some of these NGOs who are pursuing this policy.
00:25:03.860I think there's definitely we should consider all options because, again,
00:25:07.280there's nothing more important than protecting our elections and making sure that there's no fraud
00:25:10.700because our whole system is built on trust, on trust that our elections are fair and that your vote actually matters.
00:25:19.000And once the Biden administration starts stealing that from us and taking that away from us,
00:25:24.640then we've lost – the people will lose space in their government, and we won't have a government governed by the people anymore.
00:25:30.040So I truly believe we should look at all options.
00:25:32.640I think when President Trump comes back into office, they ought to consider every federal angle they can
00:25:38.280to eliminate and ferret out all the illegal fraud schemes that have been put together by the Democrats.
00:25:45.880My final question to you, Ken Paxton, this morning is what do you anticipate in November 2024 in the election?
00:25:54.920Do you expect there to be a higher degree of voter fraud?
00:25:58.020Yes, I anticipate a lot unless we stop it.
00:26:02.680We have to – we can't shut our eyes and just hope that elections are going to be like they have been in the past.
00:26:08.160There's always been some fraud, no doubt.
00:26:09.800But we're talking voter fraud on a massive level that's never been seen before in our country that has been planned by the federal government.
00:26:18.480And it has been organized for years and years and years, and it happened in the last election.
00:26:23.900And I know it happened in the last election because we stopped the mail-in ballot fraud in my state.
00:26:28.360The very mail-in ballot fraud that happened in Georgia and Wisconsin, we stopped.
00:26:33.080And I know – I told the president ahead of time, I think you're going to get beat by mail-in ballot fraud
00:26:38.260because when you mail out ballots with no signature verification, there's no – no one has any idea who mails those back in.
00:26:45.580And so once they send out millions of ballots, anybody can pick them up, sign them, and send them back in,
00:26:50.460and they can count mail-in ballots until they get to the right number.
00:32:10.800So what we are going to do is we're going to put that letter on Fight Voter Fraud's website for everybody to see.
00:32:19.220And then we also had put together some general points on the different things that people should actually let their Secretary of State know.
00:32:31.620So this will also be on the website by the end of the day today, because we're going to encourage everyone to write to their Secretary of State,
00:32:43.000let them know, here are the tools to get the illegals and non-U.S. citizens off our voter rolls.
00:32:50.860And one of the things that people have mentioned to me, different sources that I get,
00:32:55.080this one, of course, came from the RNC, and I want to put it out there.
00:32:58.940If the DNC wants to give me information to get out there on election integrity,
00:33:03.420I would be more than happy to pass that along.
00:34:08.840You were just talking about voter integrity.
00:34:11.780We saw in the MSNBC cold open at the very beginning of the show about half an hour or so ago with Michelle Obama telling people to do something.
00:34:23.340This is in the general theme of the Democrats' attempts to get out the vote.
00:34:27.840And seeing as you encourage the DNC to get involved, to help you with voter integrity, to publicize, I have a message as well on behalf of the DNC to Democrats who are listening to the show.
00:34:40.240But you've got to put your finger out, guys.
00:34:42.440You've got to – in terms of registering to people to vote, are you sure that you visited all the morgues, right?
00:34:48.740Are you sure, Democrats, that you visited every last cemetery in the country to get every last corpse registered to vote?
00:34:56.580These things – you know, you want to win in November.
00:35:03.600Okay, so the RNC's strategy, what are you – what are you asking here for the Warren Posse to do and to – to obviously come to your website.
00:35:15.220We'll give those details out again towards the end of your – the hit here.
00:35:19.780But would it not be a good idea if the Posse, in whatever state they're in, contacts you, gets a debrief over exactly how this works, what this strategy is, that they then contact their own state, Secretary of State, and then perhaps come back and liaise with you so that you can feed back the progress on the show?
00:35:47.860And what we are going to encourage everyone to do is to put together a letter.
00:35:53.840We're showing the letter that the RNC used.
00:35:56.040Obviously, there's a few things you can't use in there because they're saying it was the RNC.
00:36:01.480But we want you to utilize the bullet points that we are sending or we will have on the website and send the letters to your Secretary of State.
00:36:11.880Send the letters also, by the way, to your Attorney General, just in case the Secretary of State doesn't get the letters.
00:36:41.600And even though motor vehicles supposedly are ways to find out if somebody is a legal U.S. citizen, they're going in different states and getting their driver's licenses.
00:37:08.220We are going to ask that you end up sending us an email of your letter.
00:37:13.140Let us know so we can give an update on how many in the posse are doing this.
00:37:18.060Like I said, I'm hoping we have thousands and thousands and thousands of letters that get sent to Secretary of State.
00:37:25.700Linda, those details once again, the website, where do people go if they want to make a note of this and get in touch with you after the show?
00:37:39.220You can email me, linda, l-i-n-d-a, at fightvoterfraud.org as well.
00:37:46.480But we're going to encourage you to go to the website.
00:37:49.020It will be up for the documents we just discussed later this afternoon.
00:37:54.620Just as everybody in the posse has been requesting data, I just want to give a quick update on that, of the double registered and double voters across the country.
00:38:03.820We now have 49 states that have requested our information.
00:38:09.980We have thousands of people that have requested it.
00:38:13.500We're still running a little bit behind.
00:38:15.960It's taking us now four to five days on the request to get your information out there.
00:38:21.320But if you already sent it in, we're working on it.
00:38:24.180If you got our thank you, our automatic thank you, you are in the queue.
00:39:14.500Marlee Hornick, I gather you have some progress then with the laws, excuse me, in Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Ohio on this very issue to do with the lawsuits.
00:39:44.580We've gone to meet with people, and nothing has fundamentally changed.
00:39:48.400So I want to announce that United Sovereign Americans has filed our lawsuit in the state of Florida now.
00:39:53.760So we're up to Maryland, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and now Florida.
00:39:58.320And I want to read one of the averments from that lawsuit to the posse.
00:40:02.320I want you to understand, because the issue of non-citizens voting is a tough nut to crack when the states are barred statutorily from giving citizens information about other people's citizenship status.
00:40:16.100That's considered sensitive personal information.
00:40:24.060Petitioner believes, again, this is from the United Sovereign Americans versus the Secretary of State of Florida, the Attorney General of Florida, and the Attorney General of the United States of America.
00:40:37.160Petitioner believes, and therefore averse, that of the total of 293,000 registrations that violated election laws in one way or another, 38,149 people holding such violating registrations cast votes that were counted in the 2022 election.
00:41:02.020Each of which, now this is the key, Florida election officials should have confirmed eligibility to vote before counting that vote, and petitioner averse did not.
00:41:15.120The crux of the United Sovereign Americans litigation strategy was designed by James Madison.
00:41:21.760And when the founders were constructing this system of governance that would protect individual sovereignty of American citizens in perpetuity, they knew there was a possibility that the states would fail to follow federal law in administering federal elections and basically go rogue.
00:41:43.060They would start counting votes from people who couldn't be proven to be eligible citizen voters, whether it's because they're a non-citizen or whether it's because they're registered to vote before they're born, according to the state's own data.
00:46:14.600Now, just in a moment, we're going to pick up the themes that we're talking with now with Evan Power, the Florida GOP chairman.
00:46:25.220Before we go, Tim, I just want to finish this point here that we're talking about with Marley Hornick from United Sovereign Americas.
00:46:34.420This point you mentioned before the break, I think, is absolutely crucial and could actually be the legal point around which the voter integrity movement can start to affect some serious legal victories.
00:46:50.260Can you just repeat, please, again, once again, what was that line in that deposition about the lack of the Florida state confirming the voter eligibility?
00:47:09.500And it's not the way the Republicans win, and it's not the way the Democrats win.
00:47:13.020It's the way that the citizens of America regain control over what has become a rogue government.
00:47:20.780And so I'm going to read that statement one more time.
00:47:23.400The reason this is so important is because for three and a half years we've been arguing this as though the citizens have the burden of proof on the state.
00:47:31.600But the way that the Constitution frames it is the opposite.
00:47:34.420The state has the burden of proving to the citizens that they have correctly served and legitimately served in their role, providing a legally valid, trustworthy election to the people so we can maintain harmony between political factions.
00:47:52.680The petitioner believes, and therefore averse, that of the total of 3,605 registrations that violated election laws in one way or another, 38,149 people holding such registrations cast votes that were counted in the 2022 general election,
00:48:17.960each of which Florida election officials should have confirmed eligibility to vote before counting that vote, and petitioner averse did not.
00:48:30.240You see, the states, under the second section of the 14th Amendment, they have two jobs fundamentally with elections.
00:49:27.080So Texas, Michigan, and North Carolina are next.
00:49:29.660And then we have two more states in the hopper, and we have more actions planned.
00:49:33.380Because if we don't argue this, if we don't get into the ring and get down on the mat with these progressives, whatever party they're affiliated with, I don't care.
00:49:43.500Progressives are fundamentally—they are politicians who—they disagree with the idea that their ambition should be restrained by the law.
00:49:53.340And they're seeking for their ambition to be untethered to any responsibility to civil liberties of any other Americans so that they can pursue personal privileges instead of personal honor.
00:50:06.800And that's where the American people, if we don't pick this battle and we don't fight this, all the way down to the mat in the courts, and we will, because this litigation strategy was designed by James Madison to protect the citizens' civil liberties in the event of rogue states failing to uphold the principle of free and fair suffrage to the citizens.
00:50:33.120What you said today is absolutely revelatory to me, that it's the onus, the burden is on the states to demonstrate that those who voted have the eligibility to vote rather than those petitioning the states to prove that people weren't.
00:50:49.100And the consequence in the second section of the 14th Amendment is real.
00:50:53.500The 14th Amendment, Section 2, says if a state—now the state is the responsible party—if a state is found to have denied or abridged the vote of its eligible citizen voters in any way, which would include dilution of the vote, the state loses apportionment in proportion to the number of injured voters.
00:51:20.240Now, I don't even think the framers envisioned a circumstance in which every citizen in the state of Florida could demonstrate that their voting right had been denied.
00:51:31.100Their right to a free and fair, accurately and honestly counted election had been denied by their officials.
00:51:37.380I don't think anybody ever envisioned that would happen in Ohio, where, as you know from our last conversation, one in three votes in the 2022 midterm in Columbus, Ohio, came from someone registered to vote on January 1st.
00:51:54.520Ohio election officials should have confirmed those were valid registrations before counting that vote, and petitioner averse they did not.
00:52:02.340They're going to lose apportionment if they don't clean this up, and they can be held personally accountable under 1983, which was passed just after the Civil War.
00:52:11.980Because the last time the country was in this mess was 1868.
00:52:18.680And literally, they tried to deny states their electoral college votes in that election because it was such a train wreck.