Bannon's War Room - August 26, 2024


Episode 3858： Economy In Crisis Under Kamala; Astronauts Stranded


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

147.24246

Word Count

8,183

Sentence Count

732

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

Trump and RFK Jr. now share a common cause because each understands these deep-pocketed special interests. Big Pharma is probably the deepest pocket in all of D.C., and they're the root cause of needlessly lethal mental and physical health problems for Americans.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:23.740 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:27.700 I've got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:33.340 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:35.320 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:36.740 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:39.360 It's going to happen.
00:00:40.640 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:44.020 MAGA Media.
00:00:45.380 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:50.780 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:53.940 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:01:00.980 War Room.
00:01:01.760 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:01:10.160 Hey, Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon and mark your calendars.
00:01:14.780 I'll be with you in the War Room for the morning show, 10 to noon Eastern, all this week and next.
00:01:21.780 Today, the show is going to be on fire.
00:01:24.420 We'll start with a look behind the policy scenes at the historic RFK endorsement of President Trump last week
00:01:32.360 and explain what has drawn these two titans into common cause against the Fauciites and Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.
00:01:41.940 Then, we're going to tap into a vein that the legacy media has virtually ignored.
00:01:48.560 Hey, are you listening? ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, you've missed a really good story here.
00:01:57.940 That's the shameful role Kamala Harris has played in the failures of our space program
00:02:03.480 and the Gilligan's Island stranding of two brave American astronauts on the space station.
00:02:09.840 My guest for this soiree later in the hour will be the incredible Greg Autry, a former NASA official
00:02:17.340 and author of a book I had a little bit to do with, Red Moon Rising.
00:02:23.460 Then, we'll end the show with Mo Bannon and a tribute on this third-year anniversary
00:02:28.960 to the Afghan veterans that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden allowed to be slaughtered.
00:02:35.180 We'll watch Donald Trump lay a wreath at Arlington
00:02:37.780 while Kamala Harris hides in Joe Biden's basement from the press
00:02:43.300 like Tim Walz hid from the Iraq War.
00:02:47.880 Walz's idea of having your back is to stick a bayonet in it
00:02:51.700 and then to run, not towards Iraq, but for Congress.
00:02:56.560 All righty, let's get to it with Maha.
00:03:00.680 Okay, everybody say it with me out there.
00:03:03.120 Maha.
00:03:03.680 That's MAGA's new kissing cousin, and here's how this goes.
00:03:11.820 President Trump will make America healthy again.
00:03:15.320 Maha.
00:03:16.380 That's actually the title of Chapter 27 of my new book, The New MAGA Deal.
00:03:22.560 And Donald Trump's commitment to improving the health of all Americans,
00:03:26.600 particularly our children, immediately puts into sharp focus the shared interests of Donald Trump
00:03:33.640 and Bobby Kennedy Jr., as well as the strategic importance of RFK Jr.'s timely endorsement of Trump.
00:03:44.820 Here's the back story.
00:03:47.240 Big Pharma—I was there.
00:03:49.740 I watched this happen.
00:03:50.800 Big Pharma spent millions to keep Donald Trump out of the White House in the 2020 election.
00:03:58.960 Big Pharma and Big Food spent millions more to derail Bobby Kennedy's campaign this cycle.
00:04:07.680 Donald Trump and RFK Jr. now share a common cause because each understands these deep-pocketed special interests.
00:04:17.340 Big Pharma is probably the deepest pocket in all of D.C.
00:04:21.620 They're the root cause of needlessly lethal mental and physical health problems for Americans.
00:04:28.960 This stuff boggles your mind here.
00:04:31.260 Consider here, in the 21st century, 54% of American children, 54% are chronically ill
00:04:42.420 while they face increased rates of anxiety, depression, autism, food allergies, obesity, developmental disorders, cancer, and more.
00:04:56.080 Yet captured by Faucian special interests like Big Pharma.
00:05:02.420 Hey, Tony Fauci made more money than God from Big Pharma.
00:05:08.460 Our federal agencies and politicians have paid little attention to the Dickensian conditions our children and our people face.
00:05:16.500 America now has one of the highest obesity rates in the world,
00:05:20.300 and childhood obesity has tripled over the last three decades.
00:05:26.660 So, too, is autism an epidemic.
00:05:30.900 This is amazing.
00:05:33.220 Autism in American children has skyrocketed from 1 in 150 in the early 2000s,
00:05:42.300 you ready for this, to 1 in 36 today.
00:05:47.400 That's 1 in 36 children.
00:05:52.400 In the 90s, autism prevalence was just 1 in 1,000, and in the 70s, 1 in 10,000.
00:05:59.400 What the hell is going on here?
00:06:01.960 One key to stopping the autism epidemic is ensuring toxins like mercury, ingredients in plastics and fire retardants,
00:06:12.840 certain ingredients in pharmaceuticals such as acetaminophen, vaccines, and antidepressants are kept out of kids' bodies.
00:06:23.940 As for America's obesity epidemic, hey, you know, Cavuto solved the problem.
00:06:29.900 I saw that guy over the weekend.
00:06:32.000 A little glimpse of him on Fox.
00:06:33.840 This dude looks like a ghost.
00:06:36.660 Man, that guy used to be big and round and full of anger for Donald Trump.
00:06:44.540 Now he's a little thing.
00:06:46.840 Full of anger for Donald Trump.
00:06:48.780 Hey, Neil.
00:06:50.140 Anytime you want me on the show, I'm ready, baby.
00:06:52.300 As for America's obesity epidemic, big food delivers the average American child 100 times more sugar than 100 years ago.
00:07:05.120 And sugar, by the way, I've had problems with it myself.
00:07:09.660 It's a substance as addictive as cocaine.
00:07:13.240 This per capita sugar fix is a stark contract to the 1950s when the U.S.'s obesity rate was virtually non-existent.
00:07:26.640 Of course, big food hides this sugar in processed foods, which also contain other harmful chemicals, including titanium dioxide.
00:07:39.180 Ever hear of that?
00:07:40.420 Potassium bromates.
00:07:41.960 Ever hear of that?
00:07:43.560 Brominated vegetable dye.
00:07:45.180 And my favorite, of course, gets all over your clothes.
00:07:49.500 Red dye number three.
00:07:51.500 And there's propyparabin, whatever that is.
00:07:55.380 I'll tell you what they are.
00:07:56.680 They're toxic chemicals that disrupt.
00:07:59.380 Here, count this out.
00:08:01.580 Estrogen.
00:08:03.120 Lower sperm count.
00:08:04.480 They cause cancer in animals and humans.
00:08:07.160 They disrupt healthy gut bacteria.
00:08:09.920 Damage our central nervous systems.
00:08:12.200 They cause memory loss and muscle coordination loss.
00:08:15.860 And are linked to hyperactivity in children.
00:08:21.060 That's big food.
00:08:22.460 How about big pharma?
00:08:24.520 It's taking a similar toll.
00:08:26.900 On the over-vaccination front, this is one of Bobby's big deals, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends children receive an astonishing 11 vaccinations in their first 15 months of life.
00:08:43.960 11.
00:08:44.560 That is nearly double the recommended vaccines for children in the 1990s and nearly quadruple the amount of recommended vaccines for children recommended in the 1970s.
00:08:59.260 Astonishingly, big pharma regularly bribes doctors, bribes doctors to coerce parents into vaccinating their children.
00:09:09.780 It's like a bounty.
00:09:10.960 There's a bounty on kids.
00:09:12.540 Consider this.
00:09:14.240 Blue Cross and Blue Shield have reported that every pediatrician with an average of 260 children under two years of age, as patients, was awarded $400 each time a child completed 10 vaccinations before their second birthday.
00:09:34.700 That's a bounty.
00:10:04.700 Not surprisingly, teenagers in low income areas are most likely to have prediabetes and obesity from constantly eating processed foods with toxic chemicals, which usually means high cholesterol and high blood sugar.
00:10:26.480 Although the poor health conditions, the poor health conditions brought about by big food
00:10:33.940 aren't lethal in and of themselves, get this, watch this, they usually result in big pharma
00:10:39.860 dependence on medicines like statins, insulin, and Adderall, keeping the money towards medical
00:10:47.160 bills sky high.
00:10:48.640 You get it?
00:10:49.700 Big food gives you all this crap and big pharma has to cure it, right?
00:10:54.580 So the cure is often worse than the friggin' disease.
00:10:58.760 Then there is this.
00:11:03.240 With obesity usually comes increased rates of depression.
00:11:08.140 Adults who struggle with obesity have a 55% increased risk of developing depression over
00:11:13.780 their lifetime compared to those who are not.
00:11:18.340 Currently, 30% of Americans admit to struggling with depression, which is a 10% increase from
00:11:24.520 2015.
00:11:25.520 Instead of examining America's living environment, the food they consume, the quality of water
00:11:31.280 they drink, and more to address this dramatic rise in depression, Americans, even young
00:11:36.460 adults now, popping pills, Xanax, are giving big pharma prescriptions for antidepressant
00:11:43.180 medications at a rate triple that of the previous decade.
00:11:47.460 Teenagers popping pills?
00:11:49.460 Come on, dudes.
00:11:50.460 On top of this, these antidepressants, they've got some horrible side effects.
00:11:54.640 Anxiety, insomnia, even depression.
00:11:57.840 That's the condition they were supposed to solve, okay?
00:12:03.900 Without making serious changes to improve our national public health, our country will further
00:12:08.220 grow unhealthy and weak.
00:12:10.640 Ah, enter stage right with the help of Bobby Kennedy Jr. President Trump is determined to
00:12:19.320 make America healthy again.
00:12:21.580 Maha!
00:12:22.580 Maha!
00:12:23.580 Make America healthy again.
00:12:25.580 Both Donald Trump and RFK Jr. know that to make America great again, America must be healthy
00:12:33.260 again.
00:12:34.260 Now, here's the politics of this.
00:12:36.940 You are in the war room.
00:12:37.940 The political significance of the RFK Jr. endorsement will not be lost on the Democrats.
00:12:44.940 A Trump-Kennedy alliance, that's the last thing Kamala Harris needed to see at the end
00:12:51.820 of a DNC coronation devoid of any policies or substance.
00:12:59.880 That's because Maha!
00:13:01.620 Make America healthy again.
00:13:03.620 It's likely to be a potent issue moving swing voters, particularly with Trump's stamp of
00:13:10.620 approval from a long-time warrior like RFK Jr. against Big Pharma.
00:13:17.500 Hey, did anyone notice Tony Fauci wasn't on the stage at the DNC?
00:13:24.500 And by the way, Fauci has set the Guinness Book of Records mark for the American citizen with
00:13:34.820 the most vaccinations for COVID and the most cases of COVID.
00:13:40.500 Plus, Fauci got the West Nile virus because his immune system is in shambles from too many
00:13:53.500 jabs.
00:13:54.500 Thank you, Dr. Malone.
00:13:55.500 Of course, if Fauci dies at his own force-vaccine, Kamala Harris will no doubt deliver the eulogy.
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00:14:22.500 All right, so when we come back, we're going to shift gears from MAHA up into space, lost
00:14:33.500 in space, a couple of astronauts.
00:14:35.500 We're going to explain why Kamala Harris had more than a little bit to do with it.
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00:17:29.500 All right.
00:17:30.500 We're going to get into the space thing, but I want to let you know I am monitoring the comments
00:17:36.500 the comments here on the live chat on Rumble.
00:17:39.500 And if I see anything to respond to, we can get that going, too.
00:17:43.500 So try to get interactive.
00:17:46.500 But right now, let's get one thing straight.
00:17:50.500 Kamala Harris, you won't hear this anywhere else but on the War Room.
00:17:54.500 It's one story that's been really lost in space.
00:17:57.500 Kamala Harris has failed miserably as chair of the National Space Council.
00:18:01.500 It's dragging out everything that was built during the Trump administration's stellar run.
00:18:07.500 When President Trump reestablished the National Space Council, I was there in the White House when he did it.
00:18:13.500 We had a clear, bold vision.
00:18:15.500 America was going back to the moon, establishing a foothold on Mars and ensuring our dominance in space.
00:18:22.500 With my brother Scott Pace at the White House and Jim Bridenstine at the helm, we were hitting every milestone.
00:18:29.500 The U.S. Space Force was up and running, Artemis was on track, and our commercial partnerships were flourishing.
00:18:36.500 It was all working beautifully until Harris took the reins.
00:18:41.500 Now let's talk some specifics.
00:18:43.500 Take this Starliner debacle, right, the Gilligan's Island thing.
00:18:47.500 They go off, like, for a three-hour cruise, and they're going to be there until February 25.
00:18:53.500 Astronauts stranded on the International Space Station and delays that never seemed to end.
00:19:00.500 What's going on here?
00:19:02.500 It's because Kamala Harris has no clue, no clue how to lead on space.
00:19:07.500 Under the Trump administration, Boeing and other commercial partners knew there was a leadership in place in the White House that wouldn't tolerate these kinds of delays.
00:19:18.500 But under Harris, it's like the wheels have come off.
00:19:21.500 There's no accountability, no urgency, no plan.
00:19:26.500 What about the National Space Council itself?
00:19:29.500 Under Trump, at the White House, we had eight major meetings.
00:19:33.500 Eight.
00:19:34.500 Public, substantive, with real questions and answers.
00:19:38.500 We weren't just going through the motions.
00:19:40.500 We were making policy.
00:19:42.500 Fast forward to Harris' tenure.
00:19:45.500 Three meetings, that's it, the bare legal minimum.
00:19:49.500 The last one, a very hasty December throw-together where Kamala, she shows up, gives a canned opening speech, and then bails from the meeting, turning it over to some bureaucrat.
00:20:03.500 This is the so-called leader of our space policy.
00:20:10.500 The user advisory group, another essential part of our space strategy, has become a joke.
00:20:16.500 Top industry executives, the people who should be driving innovation, are now saying their time is being wasted with scripted meetings.
00:20:23.500 Under Trump, these were the people, they were our partners in making America the leader in space.
00:20:30.500 Now they're just frustrated observers.
00:20:33.500 NASA is in shambles, folks.
00:20:35.500 Artemis, the crown jewel of Trump's space vision, is now facing endless delays.
00:20:41.500 Instead of landing on the moon in 2024, we're looking at 2026 at the earliest.
00:20:47.500 And that's if you believe the optimistic projections.
00:20:50.500 China, communist China, is closing in, aiming for 2030.
00:20:55.500 And at this rate, they might well beat us there.
00:20:59.500 The leadership vacuum is undeniable, and it's Kamala Harris's job to fill it.
00:21:05.500 But where is she?
00:21:07.500 Harris's involvement with NASA science missions is another disaster.
00:21:12.500 Look at the Mars sample return mission.
00:21:15.500 Under Trump, this was a $7 billion project.
00:21:19.500 Expensive, yes, but manageable.
00:21:22.500 Now it's ballooned to $11 billion, and Congress won't even fund it.
00:21:27.500 NASA is asking for new industry proposals just to get a handle on things.
00:21:32.500 And what's Kamala Harris doing, right?
00:21:35.500 The head of the Space Council?
00:21:37.500 Nothing.
00:21:39.500 Let's not forget the international scene.
00:21:42.500 The International Space Station is now a hotbed of tension, thanks to Biden's weak handling
00:21:48.500 of the Ukraine crisis.
00:21:50.500 Russia announced they're pulling out, then backtrack, but the uncertainty is killing us.
00:21:56.500 Meanwhile, our commercial replacements for the International Space Station are behind schedule,
00:22:01.500 creating a potential space station gap.
00:22:05.500 China, on the other hand, is moving full steam ahead, expanding their space station and attracting global partners.
00:22:13.500 What has Harris done?
00:22:15.500 Nothing.
00:22:16.500 Zero.
00:22:17.500 The big donut.
00:22:18.500 Nothing to confront communist China's reckless behavior in space amidst anti-satellite tests
00:22:25.500 to dangerous uncontrolled rocket reentries.
00:22:29.500 Hey, this is what failure looks like in the White House.
00:22:34.500 Contrast this with Trump's tenure.
00:22:37.500 Six major space policy directives, a thriving Space Force, and a clear path to the Moon and Mars.
00:22:46.500 Kamala Harris has issued one directive.
00:22:49.500 That's it.
00:22:50.500 And shown zero engagement in the issues that matter most.
00:22:55.500 Her public statements, in fact, are cringeworthy.
00:22:59.500 Telling Space Force guardians that, hey, space is exciting.
00:23:04.500 Oh, cool.
00:23:05.500 Or worse, she appeared in a staged space video with children, but it was child actors.
00:23:12.500 It was an amateur hour, and it's costing us.
00:23:15.500 So what's the solution?
00:23:18.500 Well, we are policy-oriented.
00:23:20.500 A Trump 2.0 presidency will get serious about space again.
00:23:25.500 We need leaders who understand that space is the next great frontier for America.
00:23:32.500 We need to restore NASA's leadership, hold commercial partners like Boeing accountable, and reassert our dominance in space exploration.
00:23:44.500 We need a National Space Council that meets regularly, engages meaningfully, and drives real policy, not the empty gestures we're seeing under Kamala Harris.
00:23:55.500 In short, Kamala Harris has dropped the space ball.
00:23:59.500 But with the right leadership, America can and will reclaim its rightful place as the leader in space exploration.
00:24:06.500 We've done it before, and we will do it again.
00:24:10.500 Now, after the break, I'm going to be pleased, very pleased to welcome a guy named Greg Autry.
00:24:20.500 I met Greg literally decades ago when I was teaching at the University of California Irvine Business School, and Greg was a student of mine in the master's program.
00:24:36.500 And he went on not just to earn his master's MBA, he went on to get a PhD, and he has emerged, I think, as arguably, you can count on one hand, the top five analysts, academics, and true experts in space.
00:25:00.500 In space, and his, he was, he worked at NASA during the Trump administration.
00:25:06.500 He was scheduled to be a really top, top gun there.
00:25:09.500 But Mitch McConnell couldn't get his nomination through in time.
00:25:13.500 Thank you, Mitch, clown.
00:25:15.500 But what Greg's going to bring to the table in terms of looking at this situation is to give us some perspective,
00:25:26.500 because there are basically two models that we've had in space.
00:25:30.500 The original model was all kind of Houston, we've got a problem here.
00:25:34.500 It was all like government bureaucrats doing these cost-plus contracts where the government would run the whole thing, give a bunch of money to private companies,
00:25:47.500 and if they had cost overruns, you'd just give them a bunch of money.
00:25:50.500 And Elon Musk actually came along and upset this paradigm with SpaceX and the ability to launch rockets and put satellites up into space at much cheaper rates.
00:26:06.500 And so there's a competition now between kind of the old paradigm and the new paradigm.
00:26:12.500 So what Greg Autry is going to do over the next half hour after the break is, first of all, we're going to break down this Starliner problem,
00:26:27.500 talk about Kamala Harris's role in causing the stranding of these astronauts.
00:26:34.500 And then from there we're going to look bigger at kind of the broader issue of how a space program should be run and what the stakes are involved.
00:26:43.500 I mean the reality is that as we run out of key minerals and we have problems with energy costs and everything here on Earth,
00:26:53.500 there is literally a cornucopia of things we can harvest up in space that would make our lives infinitely more prosperous and comfortable down here on Earth.
00:27:09.500 And, of course, the scarier part in his book, Red Moon Rising gets into this,
00:27:16.500 deals with the strategic issues of who holds the strategic high ground up there in space.
00:27:25.500 And right now, Communist China seems to be the only country that is moving in a straight line on schedule to do that.
00:27:37.500 And I shudder at the thought of Communist China holding the strategic high ground, the moon.
00:27:46.500 All right, when we come back, we will be right back with a great guest, Greg Autry.
00:27:52.500 You stay here, you are with Stephen K. Bannon's War Room.
00:27:56.500 We'll be right back.
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00:29:44.500 In for Stephen K. Bannon.
00:29:46.500 You're in the War Room.
00:29:47.500 And I'm pleased right now to introduce a good friend of mine
00:29:51.500 and one of the great experts in the realm of space, Greg Autry.
00:29:56.500 I want to talk first about this crisis with the Starliner
00:30:00.500 and our astronauts lost in space.
00:30:03.500 And then we're going to get into kind of the bigger issues we've got right now
00:30:08.500 with NASA and Kamala Harris and all that good stuff.
00:30:12.500 Brother.
00:30:13.500 Hey.
00:30:14.500 What's going on, man?
00:30:15.500 Good to see you.
00:30:16.500 What's going on?
00:30:17.500 You're looking good.
00:30:18.500 You relocated to Cape Canaveral area.
00:30:23.500 I did.
00:30:24.500 I'm on Florida's Space Coast.
00:30:25.500 I got the heck out of Newsom's Knothouse.
00:30:28.500 And, you know, I've lived my whole life in California.
00:30:31.500 And I've been, you know, everywhere in the world, Peter,
00:30:33.500 and I know you spend a lot of time there, too.
00:30:35.500 I think California's the most beautiful place on the planet Earth,
00:30:37.500 and they have destroyed it.
00:30:38.500 They have destroyed it.
00:30:39.500 Yeah.
00:30:40.500 Pretty crazy.
00:30:41.500 And Kamala Harris did a lot of that destroying as Attorney General of that state.
00:30:46.500 So let's talk about the two astronauts lost in space there up at the space station.
00:30:55.500 They went up there, like, I mean, the Gilligan's Island analogy, I think, is apt.
00:30:59.500 You know, you go out for a three-hour cruise and you wind up spending five seasons on TV having hijinks.
00:31:04.500 I don't think they're having as much fun as Gilligan.
00:31:07.500 What happened there?
00:31:09.500 And I guess Elon, who you know well, is going to wind up bringing him back.
00:31:17.500 Give us your take on what went wrong there and why Boeing's pulled out of helping him and all that stuff.
00:31:24.500 Sure.
00:31:25.500 Well, one of the good things is the capsule's actually named Calypso, not Minnow, thank God.
00:31:32.500 But it does have a nautical ring there.
00:31:35.500 This is a test flight officially.
00:31:37.500 It isn't a regular paid crewed mission.
00:31:40.500 So they were testing things.
00:31:42.500 There was a failure.
00:31:43.500 NASA made the call that they weren't going to use Starliner to come back and instead use one of SpaceX's Musk's companies.
00:31:50.500 Crew Dragon to bring them back.
00:31:52.500 Starliner will come back on its own empty.
00:31:54.500 Now, Boeing maintains that everything's pretty cool and that the crew could have come back on the capsule.
00:32:00.500 Off the record, I've talked to people who have both opinions, but people always err on the side of safety.
00:32:07.500 Mostly I think that's good.
00:32:09.500 Sometimes the safety culture at NASA, frankly, gets in front of being able to get a lot of good things done.
00:32:14.500 But that's where we sit.
00:32:16.500 So let me just break this down.
00:32:19.500 So these two astronauts get on the Boeing Starliner.
00:32:23.500 They're supposed to go up for five days.
00:32:25.500 The Starliner docks there and is going to bring them back down.
00:32:28.500 Right.
00:32:29.500 Okay.
00:32:30.500 So on the way up, does something go wrong?
00:32:33.500 Yeah.
00:32:34.500 The reaction control thrusters that help do the fine maneuvering of the capsule as it approaches the station to dock suffered a sequence of failures.
00:32:43.500 There was also leaks in the helium system.
00:32:46.500 The helium gas is used to replace the propellant as it's used up.
00:32:49.500 That appears to be unrelated.
00:32:52.500 But NASA was really concerned about why these thrusters were doing that.
00:32:56.500 There had been thruster problems on a previous test flight of this vehicle or not the same capsule but the same system.
00:33:05.500 And they thought they identified that as being humidity at the Florida launch site and had addressed it.
00:33:09.500 But now they have a new problem.
00:33:10.500 NASA is not comfortable that they understand why these thrusters were failing.
00:33:15.500 So when the capsule is going up there and they're having thruster problems, they were able to dock successfully?
00:33:22.500 They were.
00:33:23.500 So the automatic system failed.
00:33:24.500 They had to take over manual control.
00:33:26.500 So the two astronauts, one of them was actually driving the bus.
00:33:29.500 Exactly.
00:33:30.500 Right.
00:33:31.500 Which these days, it's like a Tesla just supposed to dock.
00:33:33.500 And that's what crew dragons do all the time.
00:33:37.500 Right.
00:33:38.500 So that failed there.
00:33:39.500 NASA is uncomfortable.
00:33:40.500 So they get up there.
00:33:41.500 The astronauts get out.
00:33:43.500 They think they're going to only be there for a few days.
00:33:46.500 Now, once they make the decision to leave the astronauts there and they send Starliner back, did it have any problems?
00:33:53.500 Would it have been just like hindsight's 20-20?
00:33:57.500 Would it have been okay to have them go back or would it have been?
00:34:00.500 Well, it hasn't come back on its own yet.
00:34:02.500 It's going to, right?
00:34:03.500 And Starliner is still stuck up there?
00:34:04.500 Still dock up there.
00:34:05.500 It's still docked up there.
00:34:06.500 Yeah.
00:34:07.500 And so what was odd was the Boeing had software to automatically undock the Starliner, which they had done during a previous automatic test.
00:34:16.500 They removed that software.
00:34:18.500 So they had to do a software upgrade.
00:34:19.500 One of the reasons we've been waiting for a while is they had to do a software upgrade so it could fly up by itself again.
00:34:24.500 And it's expected to do that in a few days.
00:34:27.500 And we'll see whether it was okay.
00:34:29.500 But hindsight is 20-20.
00:34:30.500 Obviously, if something goes wrong, everybody's going to feel pretty bad.
00:34:33.500 And I think the truth is, though, that NASA's concerned about a whole series of errors that Boeing has suffered with this vehicle that don't appear to be related, but it may be a systemic issue with quality control.
00:34:44.500 Let's go into the space station itself.
00:34:47.500 How many people, how many Russians are there?
00:34:50.500 How many Americans are there?
00:34:52.500 What's life like up there?
00:34:54.500 Is it like a ghetto where they're running out of food?
00:34:57.500 Is it comfortable?
00:34:58.500 Is it somewhere in between?
00:34:59.500 What's it like day to day?
00:35:01.500 Yeah.
00:35:02.500 Well, you've been to worse places I know recently.
00:35:05.500 So there's plenty of room, comparatively.
00:35:09.500 You know, it's being like stuck in a shared condo with usually six people.
00:35:15.500 There's a bit of a divide between the Russians, who might be two or three of the six at any one particular time in the other crew.
00:35:22.500 There's an obvious tension going on there between the west and the Russians.
00:35:25.500 So what do we have up there now?
00:35:27.500 There's six, yeah.
00:35:28.500 How many Americans?
00:35:30.500 Oh, four and two Russians.
00:35:32.500 And we have a flight coming up with a replacement.
00:35:33.500 So there's two Americans that have been up there for a long time.
00:35:36.500 Yeah, yeah.
00:35:37.500 And they're going to be okay.
00:35:38.500 There's plenty of food.
00:35:39.500 Yeah.
00:35:40.500 We've got water.
00:35:41.500 What we don't have enough of necessarily is oxygen.
00:35:43.500 The CO2 levels build up inside the station and there's a scrubber that removes that.
00:35:47.500 And if it gets above 4,000 parts per million, which is about 10 times what we've got here on Earth, it gets really uncomfortable.
00:35:55.500 And that happens when you get too many people on the station, which is why they're not sending four up on the next flight September 24th.
00:36:01.500 They're just going to send up two and bring these two back down with the other two.
00:36:05.500 So by the time, so it's Elon to the rescue here, right, with SpaceX?
00:36:11.500 It is.
00:36:12.500 His system's been perfectly reliable.
00:36:14.500 They're launching their ninth flight, Crew-9, on September 24th.
00:36:17.500 That's the one we're pulling two people off.
00:36:18.500 And the Starliner's got to leave.
00:36:21.500 How many docking spaces are there for?
00:36:24.500 Yeah, we're going to want to clear that docking space.
00:36:26.500 But there's also docking spaces for the Russian Soyuz and Progress vehicles.
00:36:30.500 And, you know, God forbid if we had to, you know, you can ask the Russians for a ride, which usually cost about $90 million a seat.
00:36:37.500 Yeah.
00:36:38.500 Okay.
00:36:39.500 Are the Russians still, I mean, they were threatening to just leave it, right?
00:36:43.500 They did.
00:36:44.500 In 2020 they announced they were in fact leaving over the Biden administration's basically, you know, publicly abusing them over the Ukraine situation.
00:36:53.500 That was not good.
00:36:55.500 Then they've backed off of that a little bit.
00:36:56.500 They are still committed to building their own space station, though.
00:36:59.500 In the next few years.
00:37:01.500 And they are going to exit the partnership and partner with China on the moon.
00:37:04.500 So your theory with Kamala Harris is that, okay, just as I framed it in the monologue, the Vice President of the United States is also head of the Space Council.
00:37:20.500 Yeah.
00:37:21.500 It's one in a few, maybe the only actual role that the Vice President has that's written in law.
00:37:26.500 So Kennedy had Congress pass a law for the-
00:37:28.500 JFK.
00:37:29.500 Yeah.
00:37:30.500 JFK.
00:37:31.500 In 1961 passed a law for the National Air Space Council, which is the predecessor to the Space Council, designating the Vice President.
00:37:39.500 And when President Trump re-stood up the Space Council, he put it in executive order.
00:37:43.500 And Biden issued an additional executive order, which flat out says that the Vice President is chair of the Space Council and tasked with managing space strategy and policy.
00:37:53.500 And you can't avoid it.
00:37:54.500 I wonder if that was the same executive order that sent Kamala to the border as well.
00:37:58.500 Yeah.
00:37:59.500 No, I wish there wasn't.
00:38:00.500 She doesn't seem to want to do anything she's supposed to do.
00:38:02.500 I wish it was more clear.
00:38:03.500 So Kennedy sets this up.
00:38:05.500 When did it lapse?
00:38:07.500 It was disbanded by Nixon in 73 or 74, re-stood up by H.W. Bush, and then shut down by Al Gore when his reimagining government, he famously remarked that he doesn't do funerals or space.
00:38:23.500 It was then re-stood up by President Trump, who realized it strategically.
00:38:28.500 So Obama, Biden, they could have cared less.
00:38:30.500 Obama promised to stand it back up and didn't do it.
00:38:32.500 Didn't do it.
00:38:33.500 Well, that's pretty.
00:38:34.500 There's a lot of that.
00:38:35.500 That's pretty.
00:38:36.500 So the Space Council itself is unusual in that it actually seems to have the ability to get stuff done, right?
00:38:45.500 Yeah, absolutely.
00:38:46.500 It has the Secretary of Transportation, Secretary of Commerce, Secretary of Energy, the NASA Administrator, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, SecDef.
00:38:56.500 They're all there.
00:38:57.500 And if you use it right, it's an incredibly powerful tool.
00:39:00.500 And during the Trump administration, show me how that worked, because it actually did stuff.
00:39:06.500 What did it do?
00:39:07.500 Eight meetings, right?
00:39:08.500 And they came together, and the president, based on the work of the Space Council and its User Advisory Group, issued six really important space policy directives, including directing that we would return to the moon, which is now the Artemis program, and onto Mars in a way that was sustainable.
00:39:24.500 It means staying there and not just putting the flag in and leaving.
00:39:28.500 Dealing with space debris, dealing with space cyber threats, standing up in the Space Force, of course.
00:39:34.500 Yeah.
00:39:35.500 A lot was done, more than has ever been done since at least the Kennedy years, but probably more that's ever been done in space.
00:39:41.500 So Kamala takes over.
00:39:44.500 Where does it meet, by the way, the Space Council?
00:39:49.500 Oh, they meet in a public space.
00:39:51.500 So sometimes they meet at, you know, under a space shuttle for a big public affair at the museum near Dulles.
00:39:59.500 So the last time there was one, she, like, shows up and then beats feet and goes, I don't know.
00:40:05.500 Yeah, and it's a huge public meeting.
00:40:06.500 You've got all those cabinet secretaries there.
00:40:08.500 You've got really important leaders of industry on the advisory group sitting there.
00:40:12.500 You've got 100 journalists in a big public audience.
00:40:16.500 She shows up, makes about a ten-minute speech, and says, gotta go.
00:40:20.500 And then, like, everybody else is there for six hours.
00:40:22.500 Where was this, by the way?
00:40:23.500 It was last December.
00:40:24.500 So you're supposed to have a meeting every year.
00:40:26.500 Yeah, yeah.
00:40:27.500 She waited till the last minute.
00:40:28.500 I believe it was December 23rd.
00:40:29.500 I have to look it up.
00:40:30.500 But it was, like, two days before Christmas.
00:40:31.500 So your theory of the case here is that if Kamala Harris had exhibited a strong hand, real interest,
00:40:40.500 and had pursued policies in support of what Trump had been pushing forward, we might not
00:40:47.500 have had the laxity at Boeing that we've had over four years, and therefore we would have
00:40:54.500 had a better result than what we're seeing.
00:40:56.500 Yeah.
00:40:57.500 Flash that out for me.
00:40:58.500 Absolutely.
00:40:59.500 I can't say Kamala Harris made decisions that resulted in the astronauts being stuck,
00:41:03.500 but I can say she didn't make any decisions, and that sure helped result in the astronauts being
00:41:08.500 stuck, and a number of problems that we're facing at NASA and in space in general.
00:41:13.500 Such as?
00:41:14.500 Well, NASA science missions are under immense pressure.
00:41:19.500 The Mars Sample Return Mission, which is probably the premier mission to return, some
00:41:23.500 soil and rock samples that have already been collected by the Perseverance rover on Mars
00:41:28.500 so that we can look at them and finally answer the question about whether there is or has been
00:41:32.500 life on Mars.
00:41:33.500 It's, like, the biggest question in science is completely off track.
00:41:37.500 Basically, the science mission director had had to give up and stop what they were doing
00:41:42.500 and throw it out to a bid from a bunch of companies, and they're spending $300 million
00:41:47.500 just to see what a group of companies say maybe they should do now because they're throwing
00:41:51.500 away their old plan because they can't get funding for it.
00:41:54.500 Harris hasn't been there to look at it and say, okay, why does it cost this much, or go
00:41:58.500 to Congress and say we need this much money.
00:42:00.500 She doesn't stand up for space in any case because, frankly, they don't care.
00:42:04.500 Who's the Scott Pace equivalent there?
00:42:07.500 Yeah.
00:42:08.500 That's a good Scott.
00:42:09.500 Because, Scott, when I was in the White House, I was in the old executive office building
00:42:15.500 on the first floor.
00:42:16.500 Scott was right up a few floors.
00:42:18.500 I'd go see him a lot just chat about these issues because it was important to Donald Trump.
00:42:25.500 Who's mine in the store?
00:42:28.500 The vice president's the chair, but there's an executive secretary.
00:42:31.500 And Scott Pace from George Washington University held that role.
00:42:34.500 As you noted, he was a gentleman and a scholar.
00:42:37.500 I compare him to Cincinnati's.
00:42:39.500 He did yeoman's work for our country and space, and then he went back to his farm.
00:42:43.500 And you don't hear a peep out of him.
00:42:45.500 But he's an amazing person who deserves so much credit.
00:42:48.500 We've got a guy named Chirag.
00:42:49.500 I know him, and he's an okay individual.
00:42:51.500 But when you have no top cover, Peter, when you can't talk to your boss about your topic
00:42:55.500 because she does not care about it, then nothing happens.
00:42:58.500 So Chirag got out one space policy directive versus Trump's six, right?
00:43:03.500 And we've had three meetings only because three were legally required.
00:43:07.500 All right, we are going to take a break.
00:43:10.500 We are with Greg Autry, author of Red Moon Rising.
00:43:14.500 Check it out on Amazon.
00:43:16.500 We're going to go bigger now on the whole space program.
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00:45:31.500 Hey, Peter Navar in for Stephen K. Bannon.
00:45:43.500 You are in the War Room with Greg Autry, author of this little puppy, Red Moon Rising.
00:45:50.500 I had a little bit to do with it, but it's Greg's puppy here.
00:45:55.500 It's a story about how communist China is trying to gain control not just of planet Earth but of planet Mars and the moon space for both military and economic purposes.
00:46:11.500 It's frightening.
00:46:12.500 It's a topic that Americans don't seem to be as interested in as perhaps they might be if they understood the stakes involved.
00:46:24.500 And I understand that.
00:46:25.500 I mean, most people in this country right now are struggling with Kamala's inflation, with Kamala's border crisis, with Kamala's crime, trying to protect their kids in K through 12 from Kamala's woke.
00:46:43.500 But this is an issue that I think is really important.
00:46:48.500 And I would ask Jake Tapper, Noro Donald, Dave Mir, Maggie Haberman.
00:47:02.500 Hey, here's one for you, Mags.
00:47:05.500 How about Axios Bloomberg?
00:47:09.500 To actually look at the nexus between Kamala Harris's failure as the head of the Space Council and the Lost in Space drama now being played out.
00:47:24.500 And for me, Greg, first of all, that clip, I just, I wanted to show that clip.
00:47:30.500 The woman astronaut, I mean, it's like the manic, I wish they wouldn't play that clip.
00:47:36.500 I'm playing that clip and asking the mass media to stop playing that clip forever more because it doesn't seem to reflect well on the space program.
00:47:47.500 There's a bit of panic in the air as she's manically doing what she is.
00:47:52.500 She's a very brave woman.
00:47:53.500 Anybody who can do that is a better person than I.
00:47:56.500 But space program's in trouble.
00:48:00.500 So what I want to do is, like, first of all, tell the people listening to the viewer right now, what are the main initiatives?
00:48:09.500 You mentioned Artemis.
00:48:10.500 What are we doing about the moon?
00:48:12.500 What are we doing about Mars?
00:48:13.500 Is there any other thing in play?
00:48:16.500 What are our timelines?
00:48:18.500 Like, summarize that first.
00:48:19.500 So the most critical timeline is Trump's bold return to the moon, the Artemis program.
00:48:23.500 And, again, that is a permanent and sustainable return to the moon.
00:48:26.500 It's a man flight?
00:48:27.500 Yeah.
00:48:28.500 And woman.
00:48:29.500 Which, you know, Artemis is the sister of Apollo.
00:48:32.500 And that's, that Trump administration chose that name and, you know, indicated that, of course, we would bring women.
00:48:37.500 That are politically correct moments.
00:48:39.500 Yeah.
00:48:40.500 But, of course, the Biden administration, the only addition they've made it to, literally, Peter, is a woman of color, right?
00:48:45.500 Technologically and programmatically, they change nothing.
00:48:48.500 It's benign neglect.
00:48:49.500 They just let it slide along.
00:48:50.500 What color?
00:48:51.500 Yeah.
00:48:52.500 We don't know what color, right?
00:48:53.500 Maybe yellow like the Simpsons.
00:48:54.500 But I'm all about diversity.
00:48:57.500 That's great.
00:48:58.500 But the point is, we need to do this because of the competition with China.
00:49:00.500 China's going to be there in 2030.
00:49:02.500 We were supposed to be there by 2024.
00:49:04.500 When I was on Trump's NASA's transition team in 2016, we sat down and said, what are the big things that we can do that will make a difference?
00:49:11.500 We made the call to return to the moon.
00:49:13.500 And we looked at the timeline.
00:49:14.500 By the way, just to put that in perspective, how long was it between JFK calling to go to the moon?
00:49:19.500 Eight years.
00:49:20.500 Eight years.
00:49:21.500 61 to 69.
00:49:22.500 And so we said eight years.
00:49:23.500 We should be there from 16 to 24.
00:49:25.500 No problem, right?
00:49:26.500 We did it 50 years ago when we didn't know what we were doing.
00:49:28.500 Guess what?
00:49:29.500 It's 2024.
00:49:30.500 It ain't happening.
00:49:31.500 NASA says 2026, but nobody believes that.
00:49:34.500 It's at least 2028 at this moment.
00:49:36.500 And by the way, China is likely to be able to accelerate through time.
00:49:40.500 Yeah.
00:49:41.500 They are on track.
00:49:42.500 And if you don't get things done in China.
00:49:43.500 So why should we care?
00:49:44.500 Like, okay, so there's our infrastructures in shambles.
00:49:50.500 We don't have enough cops to protect people in our cities from all the illegal aliens we're
00:49:57.500 letting in.
00:49:58.500 People can't afford to eat.
00:49:59.500 They can't afford the housing.
00:50:01.500 And we're spending billions on space.
00:50:04.500 What's the argument for going to the moon?
00:50:06.500 You know what?
00:50:07.500 I'd love to say the statement I made in my confirmation hearing in the Senate when
00:50:11.500 Donald J.
00:50:12.500 Trump nominated me to be chief financial officer at NASA.
00:50:15.500 And since Mitch McConnell didn't get your nomination.
00:50:17.500 And Mitch McConnell never held about.
00:50:18.500 You missed it by about two weeks.
00:50:20.500 Yeah.
00:50:21.500 So in 1969, Peter, you know, our campuses were rocked with riots.
00:50:26.500 The Hong Kong flu pandemic killed over 100,000 Americans.
00:50:31.500 There were cities burning because of poverty.
00:50:33.500 And Johnson's war on poverty, you know, wasn't working other than running up inflation and
00:50:38.500 creating debt.
00:50:39.500 There were so many similarities.
00:50:40.500 We had an endless war in Vietnam.
00:50:42.500 So many similarities to where we are now.
00:50:45.500 But we invested in space.
00:50:47.500 And what did we get out of it?
00:50:48.500 We got a whole group of students interested in STEM that created the PC and internet industries
00:50:53.500 that drove our economy forward for the next 50 years and endless spin-offs from memory foam
00:51:00.500 mattresses to medical diagnostic solutions.
00:51:03.500 You know, I could spend a whole hour show on that.
00:51:06.500 There was value in it.
00:51:08.500 There was also more value in it geopolitically because America looked good.
00:51:13.500 Up until that moment America looked bad.
00:51:15.500 Again, where cities were torn apart of campuses.
00:51:17.500 We were losing in Vietnam.
00:51:19.500 The Russians were assented.
00:51:20.500 Sputnik, right?
00:51:21.500 This was the Sputnik moment.
00:51:22.500 Yeah.
00:51:23.500 And they were assented.
00:51:24.500 And the world really viewed the Soviet Union as the model of the future.
00:51:26.500 Once they lost that moon race, America looked good in the rest of the world.
00:51:30.500 And many people say that, you know, 1970 is the moment that the Soviet Union began its decline.
00:51:36.500 And internally, it disenchanted the Soviet Union.
00:51:40.500 If we do the reverse.
00:51:41.500 So you're making the argument, we need to be on the moon because it's going to spawn.
00:51:45.500 We'll make more money than we'll spend, basically.
00:51:49.500 Absolutely.
00:51:50.500 It's full of resources that aren't controlled by the Chinese.
00:51:52.500 Like what?
00:51:53.500 What can we bring back from the moon that would help America?
00:51:55.500 It's full of metals, rare earth elements, titanium, things that we can't necessarily get easily.
00:52:01.500 When you look up at the moon, you see those craters that are created by asteroid cores,
00:52:04.500 which are very often metallic.
00:52:06.500 And we know where they are.
00:52:07.500 You can mine them without ruining the rainforest or anything else.
00:52:10.500 And then there's the materials you need, like water, frankly,
00:52:13.500 in order to stay on the moon and go further.
00:52:16.500 There are things we can make in space that will revolution our lives,
00:52:19.500 from replacement retinas for people with macular degeneration to replacement livers.
00:52:24.500 Okay.
00:52:25.500 Hey.
00:52:26.500 Stay right here.
00:52:28.500 Greg Autry's not going anywhere.
00:52:30.500 When we come back, we're going to keep working through this.
00:52:33.500 This is a big topic for The War Room.
00:52:35.500 This is what we do on The War Room.
00:52:37.500 We go deep for you.
00:52:39.500 And there's politics here.
00:52:42.500 Kamala Harris' failure.
00:52:44.500 Gilligan's Island, Kamala.
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