Bannon's War Room - August 30, 2024


Episode 3871: Political Consultant Word Salad


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

153.43903

Word Count

8,388

Sentence Count

706

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

Kamala Harris's latest interview with CNN's Dana Bash and her poll numbers in the Democratic primary are causing some to question whether she's actually a presidential candidate. Pollster Richard Barris joins us to give his thoughts on the clip.


Transcript

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,
00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:11.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:19.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:26.000 MAGA Media.
00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:33.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country,
00:00:40.000 this country will be saved.
00:00:43.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:00:53.000 Hey, Peter K. Navarro here.
00:00:55.000 Look, I'm going to bring in Richard Barris,
00:00:59.000 an incredible pollster that we have frequently here on the War Room.
00:01:04.000 I want to do three things with him.
00:01:07.000 I want to start off with a clip that we're going to show in a second
00:01:12.000 of something that Kamala Harris said last night,
00:01:15.000 get his reaction to that as a pollster.
00:01:18.000 Then I want to talk more generically with Richard about why we're seeing such
00:01:23.000 different results in polling.
00:01:25.000 And then then we're going to get into some some new results.
00:01:29.000 So that's kind of the the chessboard we got.
00:01:31.000 So, Denver, show show Richard and me and the audience this clip first.
00:01:37.000 And then I want to get Richard's reactions to the values thing.
00:01:41.000 How should voters look at some of the changes that you've made,
00:01:47.000 that you've explained some of here in your policy?
00:01:51.000 Is it because you have more experience now and you've learned more about the information?
00:01:56.000 Is it because you were running for president in a Democratic primary?
00:02:01.000 And should they feel comfortable and confident that what you're saying now
00:02:05.000 is going to be your policy moving forward?
00:02:07.000 Dana, I think the most important and most significant aspect of my policy perspective
00:02:14.000 and decisions is my values have not changed.
00:02:18.000 You mentioned the Green New Deal.
00:02:20.000 I have always believed and I have worked on it that the climate crisis is real,
00:02:26.000 that it is an urgent matter to which we should apply metrics
00:02:30.000 that include holding ourselves to deadlines around time.
00:02:35.000 We did that with the Inflation Reduction Act.
00:02:38.000 We have set goals for the United States of America and by extension the globe
00:02:42.000 around when we should meet certain standards for reduction of greenhouse gas emissions,
00:02:47.000 as an example.
00:02:48.000 That value has not changed.
00:02:50.000 My value around what we need to do to secure our border,
00:02:53.000 that value has not changed.
00:02:54.000 I spent two terms as the Attorney General of California,
00:02:58.000 prosecuting transnational criminal organizations,
00:03:01.000 violations of American laws regarding the passage,
00:03:05.000 illegal passage of guns, drugs and human beings across our border.
00:03:08.000 My values have not changed.
00:03:11.000 All right, Denver, I also want to see that Frank Lund's clip if you have that.
00:03:16.000 Do you have that?
00:03:18.000 Play that now.
00:03:19.000 She said, my values haven't changed.
00:03:21.000 Three times in that really short clip that you had.
00:03:24.000 And I know what that means.
00:03:26.000 I know that she was given that phrase to say.
00:03:28.000 I know that it's a sound bite.
00:03:30.000 I know that she's saying it, she's trying to emphasize it.
00:03:33.000 And I hear that.
00:03:35.000 And I've been applauding her communication, both her campaign and she herself.
00:03:41.000 It's been almost flawless.
00:03:43.000 And then I hear that.
00:03:44.000 And I think, oh, God, it's the same old politician.
00:03:48.000 It's the same old approach.
00:03:50.000 Some pollsters, some media consultant put that phrase into her head to make sure she said it again and again as an answer to those who claim that she flip flopped.
00:04:01.000 So, Chris, I'm listening to this and I'm actually disappointed.
00:04:04.000 So I thought I was going to be able to come here.
00:04:06.000 Maybe the rest of the interview is much better and say this is what the American people want to hear.
00:04:12.000 This is this is going to continue the trend that she's been.
00:04:16.000 She's been articulating.
00:04:19.000 But I can't do that just based on the clip that you showed.
00:04:22.000 So what I heard was Dana Bash become Dana Mush when she asked that that leading question.
00:04:32.000 Hey, Kamala, have you flip flopped because you have more experience or come on, Dana?
00:04:38.000 You know better than that crap.
00:04:39.000 Huh?
00:04:40.000 It's not like we don't notice.
00:04:41.000 But what did you hear, Richard Barris?
00:04:45.000 Did Frank Luntz actually say something interesting for a change or do you have a different take on that?
00:04:50.000 Well, good morning, my friend.
00:04:52.000 Thanks for having me.
00:04:53.000 I I'm listening and I'm like, you know, hell hath frozen over because I actually at least somewhat agree with what Frank is saying.
00:05:01.000 There's no doubt that that was a political consultant planted line.
00:05:06.000 This was not a good interview.
00:05:08.000 All right.
00:05:09.000 And I did what I disagree with Frank about is is that up until now, the messaging was flawless.
00:05:14.000 The the the discipline was flawless.
00:05:17.000 The media has been running this campaign.
00:05:19.000 Her discipline, her messaging has been non-existent.
00:05:22.000 She has not been in front of anybody.
00:05:24.000 She goes up and gives canned speeches.
00:05:26.000 And this was the product of all she can do.
00:05:29.000 Right.
00:05:30.000 So those rallies that you were seeing where everything is canned, there's no pressure.
00:05:34.000 All right.
00:05:35.000 This was different.
00:05:36.000 Democrats are getting very scared because of what they're seeing in the polling.
00:05:40.000 And we're going to talk about that.
00:05:41.000 But they're getting very scared and they needed to knock this interview out of the park.
00:05:46.000 And they want because you've got to understand, folks, people in D.C. think that like an interview with Dana Bash is going to sway the election one way or the other.
00:05:55.000 It's really just about affirming what people may think of you.
00:05:58.000 It's not going to be some life saving or game changing event.
00:06:01.000 But however, if you mess it up, if you botch it, it's like if you do good, people think you expect they're expecting you to do good.
00:06:09.000 You're a professional politician.
00:06:10.000 You should be go out.
00:06:11.000 You should be able to go out there and deliver coherent answers to softball questions from Dana Bash.
00:06:18.000 This was not that.
00:06:19.000 This was a word salad that was given to her by the consultants, sprinkled heavily with platitudes.
00:06:26.000 And Americans know that.
00:06:28.000 I mean, it smacks of inauthenticity.
00:06:31.000 It smacks of politician.
00:06:33.000 And I'm telling you, there's going to be a bad reaction to this interview.
00:06:36.000 This was an awful interview.
00:06:38.000 And Dana did everything in her power to make it a decent one.
00:06:42.000 I mean, the question, Peter, should have been in 2019 when you were running, you said you were against fracking.
00:06:49.000 When you were running as the vice presidential nominee, you told the American people standing next to Mike Pence that you wouldn't.
00:06:55.000 And Pennsylvania had nothing to fear.
00:06:57.000 But day one in your administration, the Keystone pipeline was shut down and thousands of people lost their jobs.
00:07:03.000 So why should they believe you now when you're flip flopping back yet again and saying that you support fracking?
00:07:09.000 I mean, that's that's what a real journalist would ask.
00:07:12.000 There are thousands of people without jobs, Dana.
00:07:15.000 There are thousands of people less fortunate than you.
00:07:18.000 Sorry.
00:07:19.000 Can we can we test in a focus group Dana Mush to see if they like that?
00:07:24.000 I mean, I got a rival the boss in terms of nicknames.
00:07:27.000 You know, I'm in a little competition.
00:07:29.000 Dana Mush.
00:07:30.000 That's that was that leading question.
00:07:33.000 Oh, Kamala, did you change your mind because you've had more experience?
00:07:38.000 What experience has she had?
00:07:40.000 I don't know what she did.
00:07:41.000 OK, before we get into your your great new results to show and talk about, I want to just talk a little bit about this cognitive dissonance we have.
00:07:53.000 Yes.
00:07:54.000 With polls showing different results in and you've got like outliers like Quinnipiac is always like an outlier.
00:08:03.000 Yeah.
00:08:04.000 It always gets headlines.
00:08:06.000 ABC News is interesting because it's going to be hosting that debate, but it's made spectacular errors in favor of the Democrats now and both in the 2016 and 2020 elections.
00:08:21.000 So let me let me let me I got a list here in my head.
00:08:25.000 So so the first way you can you can manipulate a poll, if you so choose, present company would never do that because we want the truth would be to over sample, for example, the Democrats.
00:08:40.000 And you can do that, I would think, by both having more Democrats in your sample directly or by assuming a higher turnout.
00:08:56.000 So that would be maybe maybe maybe one way you can do that.
00:09:00.000 You can ask Dana Bash, Dana Mush type leading questions that you can do that.
00:09:09.000 There are maybe timing issues where you go out with a poll after some transit event has happened.
00:09:19.000 So what else how else are these these the the ABCs and the Quinnipiacs going so wrong?
00:09:31.000 And it matters to be clear when you have polling out there showing somebody's gaining momentum that creates a bandwagon effect and a self-fulfilling prophecy.
00:09:41.000 So tell me if you were Machiavelli and how would you how would you manipulate a poll like they're doing?
00:09:51.000 What are they doing in there?
00:09:53.000 You named a lot of the the the go to thing, you know, the go to tactics in the playbook.
00:09:59.000 And I'd like to elaborate on some of them to explain to people what, you know, specifically they're doing.
00:10:05.000 But there's one that I think I didn't hear, which is you can withhold polls.
00:10:09.000 The timing not only going into the field, but releasing them.
00:10:13.000 So I'm just going to say it because they need to be shamed.
00:10:17.000 Bloomberg, which is conducted by morning consult, has now repeatedly done this.
00:10:22.000 And to give them a text, a textbook example, folks, they released a slew of battleground polls before Biden was thrown out in a coup.
00:10:31.000 They released a slew of battleground polls after after the State of the Union.
00:10:36.000 And the headline from Bloomberg was Biden rebound sharply in the battleground states after the State of the Union.
00:10:43.000 However, when you looked at when those polls were conducted, they were actually conducted two weeks before Joe Biden ever gave the State of the Union speech.
00:10:53.000 Everyone ran with it. Fox News ran with it. Axios ran with it.
00:10:57.000 Everybody ran with it because nobody's really digging in to say, you know what, when were these polls conducted?
00:11:03.000 And you have to go to RealClearPolitics if you're not a subscriber of morning consult.
00:11:08.000 You'd have to go to RealClearPolitics and look at the dates that they're putting in their averages.
00:11:12.000 And that is now something that's being done consistently. And there's two sides of the coin on this.
00:11:19.000 If it's a poll that favors Trump, we've noticed that pollsters have withheld them during periods of when there is a narrative where Harris is doing well.
00:11:30.000 So there was, for instance, a couple of polls out there that actually showed Trump's still ahead nationally in the height of this.
00:11:37.000 You know, it's not real. The momentum is only partly real. Most of it is not real.
00:11:42.000 And I can explain that more. But it's a response bias that they're exploiting.
00:11:46.000 But tell me. Go ahead.
00:11:49.000 Just to wrap this up, they were afraid, Peter, of the narrative.
00:11:53.000 So here they are with a Trump plus one poll and they withhold it for two weeks because they're afraid to go against the media narrative.
00:12:00.000 That's catastrophically sad in this industry.
00:12:03.000 Tell me about ABC News, because what scares me about them is they acquired FiveThirtyEight.
00:12:10.000 And FiveThirtyEight is the website that was started by a liberal, Nate Silver.
00:12:17.000 A total fraud, by the way.
00:12:19.000 And it purports to be an aggregate that provides kind of an aggregate of all the polls and give you an idea of what's happening.
00:12:27.000 Tell me how much that concerns you and how ABC might be manipulating things with FiveThirtyEight.
00:12:34.000 And Elliott Morris, who used to be at The Economist, now because Nate Silver was fired, Elliott Morris now runs that model.
00:12:42.000 If you thought Nate Silver was left wing, Elliott Morris makes Nate Silver look like a Goldwater conservative.
00:12:48.000 Okay, so that is even worse situation.
00:12:52.000 I would say this about ABC.
00:12:54.000 There's a lot of things going on that people aren't being told.
00:12:57.000 Gary Langer from Langer Research was the longtime pollster for the ABC News, Washington Post poll and ABC News itself.
00:13:04.000 George Stephanopoulos was not happy about six months, a year ago, when Gary Langer was coming out with the Trump plus 10s.
00:13:11.000 Do you remember the ABC News, Washington Post, Trump plus 12?
00:13:14.000 Well, that was the last we saw of Gary Langer.
00:13:16.000 They have since moved over to the Ipsos panel, which is the same panel used by Reuters.
00:13:21.000 It's awful, Peter.
00:13:23.000 It's not a good panel.
00:13:24.000 I'm sorry.
00:13:25.000 It's just true.
00:13:26.000 They're not all like Internet or marketplaces of what we call them in as in this industry.
00:13:32.000 Not all marketplaces for online panels are created equal.
00:13:35.000 And Ipsos is not even among the top three.
00:13:38.000 So this idea that...
00:13:40.000 What is that term of art, panel?
00:13:42.000 What are you saying?
00:13:43.000 It's a bad panel.
00:13:44.000 What does that mean?
00:13:45.000 Yeah.
00:13:46.000 So there are, you know, we have different modes of collection to reach different people.
00:13:49.000 And, you know, going into this response bias, not everybody responds to the same mode of collection like collecting interviews on a cell phone live.
00:13:59.000 Not everyone responds to that particular mode at the same rate, and you can underrepresent certain groups.
00:14:05.000 The same thing goes for like IVR, interactive voice response.
00:14:08.000 You may be calling a landline with a prerecorded line, what we called robo polls back in the day.
00:14:14.000 That's not, you know, that's not going to reach a representative group.
00:14:19.000 So you have to bring in a different mode, like an online panel, a marketplace, in order to find a more diverse and especially younger demographic to balance out how much older, you know, those landlines are going to be.
00:14:31.000 And that, I mean, we have metrics to measure how the quality of these marketplaces.
00:14:38.000 Okay.
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00:14:40.000 Hold that thought.
00:14:41.000 Hold that thought.
00:14:42.000 We're going to come back to it on the break.
00:14:44.000 We are here with Richard Barris.
00:14:46.000 We'll go over that and then we'll get into your new poll results.
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00:16:12.000 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:16:15.000 Bannon.
00:16:17.000 All right, Peter Kay Navarro in for Stephen K.
00:16:24.000 Bannon.
00:16:25.000 We're talking with the great pollster Richard Barris.
00:16:28.000 Just to sum up before we go on to your results, what we have is ABC News, which is hosting the September 10th debate.
00:16:39.000 And they have a notorious history of skewing polls in favor of Democrats.
00:16:47.000 You can tell a dog by the fleas that they lay down with.
00:16:53.000 And ABC News is in with the Washington Post.
00:16:58.000 Think about that.
00:17:01.000 Ipsos.
00:17:03.000 And they acquired this thing called FiveThirtyEight, which is an aggregator of all polls.
00:17:10.000 So ABC News is using the FiveThirtyEight aggregator to create false impressions of momentum and Harris support that doesn't exist.
00:17:20.000 They got Ipsos basically replacing a guy who was giving them honest numbers because they didn't like the honest numbers.
00:17:30.000 And the Washington Post is hopelessly compromised, as we know that.
00:17:37.000 So if I got that right, Richard, is that is that pretty much how that looks to you?
00:17:41.000 One hundred percent.
00:17:43.000 I mean, look, I mean, Peter, the FiveThirtyEight model never had Donald Trump as the favorite.
00:17:50.000 Even when Trump was ahead in every battleground state average and every national poll against Joe Biden, they were the only forecast model on the Internet that still had Biden as the favorite.
00:18:01.000 And again, they got rid of basically scrapped Gary Langer from Langer Research, which long conducted the ABC News poll.
00:18:08.000 And now they're using Ipsos as an online panel just to go back in time, Peter.
00:18:13.000 Here's some of the 2020 final polls from the Reuters poll, which is also Ipsos.
00:18:17.000 All right.
00:18:18.000 And that's another thing they do use the same data set with different organizations to give you the impression that they're really different polling.
00:18:24.000 Oh, that's interesting.
00:18:25.000 And it's not the case.
00:18:27.000 So they double count the aggregators then, huh?
00:18:30.000 I mean, basically, it's the same data set from the same panel.
00:18:34.000 I mean, and conducted during the same period.
00:18:37.000 I mean, it's crazy.
00:18:38.000 I mean, it's crazy.
00:18:39.000 Yeah.
00:18:40.000 But here's Florida.
00:18:41.000 This is Ipsos.
00:18:42.000 Biden plus four, 50 to 46.
00:18:45.000 Michigan, Biden plus 10, 52 to 42.
00:18:48.000 North Carolina, Biden plus two, 50 to 48.
00:18:51.000 Wisconsin, Biden plus 10, 53 to 43.
00:18:55.000 I mean, what else do I have to say?
00:18:57.000 Do I really have to write?
00:18:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:59.000 It speaks for itself.
00:19:00.000 And to be clear, those are all states that Trump won.
00:19:05.000 He either won or he came way closer than 10 points.
00:19:09.000 Wisconsin was 0.6%, folks.
00:19:12.000 Yeah.
00:19:13.000 I mean, come on.
00:19:14.000 Yeah.
00:19:15.000 Yeah, come on.
00:19:16.000 Exactly.
00:19:17.000 All right.
00:19:18.000 What do you got?
00:19:19.000 What do you got new for the for the posse here?
00:19:21.000 Well, first and foremost, pay attention.
00:19:23.000 The new poll's coming out.
00:19:24.000 I can give you a little bit of a heads up on it.
00:19:26.000 But I gave a graphic over to Denver so they can look and see which I have kind of like teased
00:19:33.000 before.
00:19:34.000 But if we want to know how impactful the RFK vote is, we have to ask people, obviously,
00:19:40.000 before the endorsement is conducted.
00:19:42.000 Right.
00:19:43.000 So we went in.
00:19:44.000 Everyone kind of knew this was coming.
00:19:46.000 We went in and we asked RFK voters, you know, where would you go?
00:19:49.000 What would happen if RFK dropped out organically?
00:19:53.000 That top bar is the organic movement.
00:19:56.000 It would be about 42% of his voters who would go over to Donald Trump organically.
00:20:02.000 Only about a quarter would go over to Harris.
00:20:03.000 Now it's not only, but it's about a quarter and it's less.
00:20:06.000 Another 15% are basically did basically tell us that if RFK did endorse him and went out
00:20:13.000 and supported him, then they would also support Donald Trump.
00:20:17.000 So now you're getting to the realm of 60% of his vote.
00:20:20.000 The rest of that was up in the air wondering whether or not they would vote.
00:20:24.000 But they still, the majority of that 12% still is even, they were still remain persuadable.
00:20:31.000 So, and I don't mean persuadable that they could go over to Harris.
00:20:34.000 I mean, persuadable as if they would go over to Donald Trump.
00:20:37.000 So, what we found, our results, I did read a memo from the Trump campaign's pollster, Tony
00:20:44.000 Fabrizio, about where these voters are going in the battleground states.
00:20:47.000 And honestly, if you look and combine those numbers, it very much mirrors what Tony found.
00:20:52.000 So, three weeks ago, before this man dropped out of the race, every election mafia fake,
00:20:59.000 and fake modeler, and pollster, were basically justifying their projections by saying, you know,
00:21:06.000 RFK is going to hurt Trump in these states, like Pennsylvania, and he's going to hurt him here and there.
00:21:10.000 Now that RFK is out, they're pretending, and I quote Larry Sabato over at Tiny Crystal Balls,
00:21:17.000 they say that it's not, quote, significant.
00:21:21.000 In fact, it is the definition of statistically significant.
00:21:24.000 His support is larger than either one of their leads in any given battleground state.
00:21:30.000 And if Trump is going to take 60% of it, it's the ballgame.
00:21:33.000 In Arizona, for instance, it's about 40,000 votes.
00:21:36.000 Peter, that's it.
00:21:38.000 I mean, that's it.
00:21:40.000 So, let me ask you this.
00:21:42.000 It's a big deal, and it is significant.
00:21:45.000 Tulsi Gabbard, does she have any kind of the same kind of visibility and or sway at all?
00:21:56.000 I mean, she's the darling of the media in a way.
00:22:03.000 She was on the stage with the boss last night.
00:22:06.000 Have you done any polling ever on her?
00:22:11.000 Because that adds the female component, which would certainly help.
00:22:16.000 And Pacific Islander, too, I think, maybe.
00:22:19.000 So, talk to me.
00:22:20.000 I mean, we haven't done anything recently on Tulsi, but this is what I would give people as a response to that.
00:22:26.000 We had obviously polled the 2020 Democratic primary.
00:22:29.000 She was immensely popular.
00:22:32.000 Even though people were not going to vote for her, they still liked her.
00:22:35.000 It was only after, of course, they went after her with, you're a Russian agent.
00:22:42.000 She ended, if people forgot.
00:22:44.000 I mean, it's worth reminding them.
00:22:46.000 She ended Kamala Harris's run for president.
00:22:49.000 It was already very rocky, and the campaign was in deep trouble because Kamala Harris couldn't manage a lemonade stand because that campaign was in shambles.
00:22:56.000 But Tulsi Gabbard got on that debate stage and ended her run with, you know, talking about prosecuting black and brown people at ridiculous rates for throwing them in jail for excessive periods of time for a nickelback, right?
00:23:09.000 I mean, that's what she did.
00:23:10.000 By the way, let me just interrupt you just one second.
00:23:14.000 Denver, Cameron, get me that clip before this show is over.
00:23:18.000 Go ahead, Richard.
00:23:19.000 Brutal.
00:23:20.000 I want to see that.
00:23:21.000 Yeah.
00:23:22.000 Okay, yeah.
00:23:23.000 Richard, go ahead.
00:23:24.000 It affirmed what I think she does, and I've got to give him credit.
00:23:28.000 Robert Barnes, looking at the results of this poll we were talking, and he had said something that stuck with me because I think he's 100% right.
00:23:34.000 You know, what, like, Tulsi does and what RFK does is give this group of people that were, you know, difficult for Trump to get but are on the left but share more in common with Trump than the modern Democratic Party because they're like neoliberals.
00:23:49.000 And it's a breed of populism even though it's on the left.
00:23:52.000 It gives them a political permission slip.
00:23:55.000 That's the phrase he used, and I thought it was 100% correct.
00:23:58.000 It gives them a political permission slip to vote for Trump.
00:24:02.000 And people, you know, affirmations matter.
00:24:05.000 And when you see Tulsi out there, and you're younger, you tilt to the left, but you're certainly populist in nature, below the age of 45 especially, and you see Tulsi Gabbard and, you know, Bobby Kennedy out there campaigning with Donald Trump.
00:24:20.000 It's going to have an impact.
00:24:22.000 It absolutely is.
00:24:23.000 Yeah.
00:24:24.000 Let me ask you one.
00:24:25.000 We just got a couple of minutes left.
00:24:27.000 I got an important question.
00:24:29.000 I was having a debate with one of the Trump pollster types.
00:24:36.000 And the conversation went, like, the only thing that matters is economy and border, right?
00:24:43.000 And I said, well, what about communist China?
00:24:45.000 Don't people, particularly in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, understand that the economy is in the tank in large part because of communist China?
00:24:59.000 But what would be your advice?
00:25:01.000 Is, like, China not an issue anymore?
00:25:04.000 Or can you link that as an inferred variable to the economics?
00:25:12.000 I mean, look.
00:25:13.000 Am I wrong?
00:25:14.000 I don't know.
00:25:15.000 Who knows?
00:25:16.000 I don't know that you could ever take China off the table as an issue because especially in the Midwest, China is everyone's, and I'm not saying they're not wrong.
00:25:26.000 So let me just say that before.
00:25:28.000 But China is everyone's poster child bad boy for when we're talking about trade and, like, who got the wealth in this country from trade?
00:25:37.000 Everyone in Pennsylvania, everyone in Wisconsin, everyone in Michigan knows that China was the recipient, the benefact of these bad trade deals.
00:25:46.000 So, I mean, you could always throw China in there as because they're going to be their target.
00:25:51.000 Look, if you were playing darts and there was a picture of somebody on the dartboard in the Midwest, it's China, you know?
00:25:56.000 So I don't think I would leave trade off the table.
00:26:00.000 That was always such a powerful message for him.
00:26:02.000 That is why those Bernie voters voted for him.
00:26:04.000 Trade and immigration together is the economy.
00:26:07.000 Can you loop communist China into the reason why we're having a failure on the economy?
00:26:14.000 It's like somebody in Pennsylvania, when they say the economy is my issue, do they also generally know that it's China the problem and that if you got soft people on China, the economy is going to be down?
00:26:26.000 Is that too big a lift to do in a message?
00:26:29.000 I mean, this is how this is what I would limit it to.
00:26:32.000 And I don't know why he doesn't do this.
00:26:34.000 But I mean, I would have framed it as, you know, we were so close with China renegotiating.
00:26:40.000 They were in phase two.
00:26:41.000 Pete, I don't have to tell you.
00:26:42.000 They were in phase two.
00:26:43.000 I would have.
00:26:44.000 I mean, I would be telling the American people they robbed you.
00:26:47.000 They robbed you because they are beholden to them.
00:26:51.000 And this would have gotten, you know, we could have straightened this out.
00:26:54.000 I mean, obviously, you're not going to say it like this.
00:26:56.000 But, you know, if they did not rob you of your second term, then this would have been dealt with and we would have been able to take that wealth back.
00:27:04.000 That's how I would tell these people that.
00:27:06.000 And unfortunately, in 2020, that message that got him elected, it did.
00:27:12.000 Yeah.
00:27:13.000 Got lost in the sauce, Peter.
00:27:14.000 It did.
00:27:15.000 Got lost in the sauce in 2020.
00:27:16.000 Yeah.
00:27:17.000 Well, that grieved me.
00:27:18.000 I had a few things to say about that.
00:27:20.000 But.
00:27:21.000 All right.
00:27:22.000 Let folks know how they can get in touch with you, sir.
00:27:25.000 And, you know, it's always a pleasure to have you on.
00:27:29.000 Always enlightening for the posse.
00:27:31.000 Tell us how we can be here as always.
00:27:33.000 You know, best places on locals peoples pundit dot locals dot com after the war room inside the numbers is coming up and we're going to look at the I'm going to show people the polling response by us.
00:27:43.000 I'm going to open up the back of the software and show them what's going on.
00:27:46.000 Thanks for having me as always, brother.
00:27:48.000 You pay attention to Richard bears.
00:27:50.000 He's he's the truth.
00:27:52.000 Another day, another breaking news story buried.
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00:27:58.000 It's not because they don't know what's happening.
00:28:00.000 The media pundits and talking heads just don't want to pay any attention to it.
00:28:04.000 And they particularly don't want you paying any attention to it.
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00:29:07.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:29:13.000 Peter K. Navarro here, and I'm going to deliver now on my promise to explain why Steve Bannon
00:29:26.000 should get out of prison forthwith, be at this microphone, and as the premier political strategist
00:29:38.000 in this country, he should be allowed to participate in what is the most important election of our lifetime.
00:29:47.000 So here's the deal.
00:29:51.000 When Steve and I were both convicted by a woke D.C. jury after we were stripped of any possible
00:30:02.000 defense of contempt of Congress, each of us was sentenced to four months in prison.
00:30:09.000 When Steve was convicted, his judge, Judge Nichols, allowed him to remain out of prison,
00:30:20.000 released pending appeal.
00:30:25.000 Whereas my judge, Judge Ahmed Mehta, did not do that.
00:30:31.000 Scurrilously, by the way.
00:30:33.000 It's shameful what that man did.
00:30:35.000 Ahmed Mehta.
00:30:36.000 Remember that name.
00:30:37.000 Because he's going to screw Trump before November.
00:30:39.000 I guarantee that.
00:30:42.000 So anyway, when Steve lost his appeal at the appeals court in D.C., it goes district court,
00:30:52.000 appeals court, and then the Supreme Court.
00:30:55.000 The government, the Biden weaponized government, petitioned for Steve to go directly to prison
00:31:03.000 and end his release pending appeal even though the appeal still had to go to the Supreme Court.
00:31:12.000 And Judge Nichols granted the government's motion and put Steve in Danbury prison.
00:31:25.000 Now, what's interesting about that is that when Judge Nichols made that decision, he apparently
00:31:35.000 was unaware, and he couldn't have known it at that point, that one of the judges on the
00:31:50.000 appeals court would subsequently write a dissent to the appeals court decision to send Bannon
00:31:59.000 to prison.
00:32:01.000 Judge Walker.
00:32:03.000 Now, what was important about that dissent is that it indicated right there by that dissent
00:32:13.000 a dissent alone that there was a substantial issue over which there was disagreement on the
00:32:24.000 court and therefore a substantial issue that might lead to, in the appeal, a release and
00:32:36.000 a return either of a dismissal of the case or a retrial.
00:32:41.000 All right.
00:32:42.000 So let me say that again.
00:32:43.000 Judge Nichols makes the decision based on the government's motion to send Steve to prison.
00:32:50.000 Nichols revokes Steve's release, sends him to Danbury.
00:32:56.000 Judge Walker subsequently issues his dissent of the appeal decision to deny Steve his freedom.
00:33:08.000 And what that indicates from that dissent is yes indeed there are substantial issues in
00:33:15.000 this case.
00:33:17.000 And that fact alone is why normally a defendant in a case after conviction is able to stay
00:33:28.000 out of prison until the full appeal is heard.
00:33:33.000 Okay.
00:33:34.000 And in fact, that's the norm.
00:33:36.000 That's why Judge Nichols decided initially to allow Steve to stay out as his case went through
00:33:46.000 the appeals process.
00:33:48.000 It's inexplicable to me why Judge Nichols didn't allow that to go forward all the way up to the Supreme Court
00:33:55.000 because Steve hasn't gotten there yet.
00:33:57.000 But be that as it may, Judge Nichols now has important new information in the form of Judge Walker's dissent
00:34:07.000 that indicates that Steve has the firmest of grounds to be released immediately.
00:34:16.000 Full stop.
00:34:18.000 And if you read the motion, which apparently these reporters out there don't do, I mean,
00:34:25.000 it's just so discouraging how bad the legal reporting is for Steve in my case.
00:34:32.000 These people are lazy and stupid and they don't understand the law and they jump to conclusions
00:34:39.500 as quickly as they can to verify whatever narrative they have about whatever is going on.
00:34:46.000 And in fact, these are important constitutional issues that Steve's case and my case raised that are historical in nature.
00:34:57.000 I mean, mine is a landmark case.
00:35:00.000 And what these reporters missed in the filing that Steve made was the fact that Judge Walker himself has a very, very good track record.
00:35:13.000 When he dissents in a case down the road, things get overturned.
00:35:18.000 Let me say that again.
00:35:19.000 When Judge Walker dissents, he has a very good track record of having the case go the way he thought it should have gone
00:35:29.000 and against the way the D.C. appeals court said it would.
00:35:33.000 And the problem, of course, with the D.C. appeals court is that it's totally out of sync with the Supreme Court.
00:35:42.000 Because of its extreme ideology, it's primarily a Democrat appeals court.
00:35:51.000 And you're getting liberal anti-Trump type decisions out of there, which up the line don't last when they get up to a more reasoned court.
00:36:08.000 So that's the first reason.
00:36:10.000 And let me summarize it again for you pinheads in journalism who don't get it.
00:36:20.000 If there's a substantial issue in a case like there is in Steve Bannon's, and mine, by the way, related in this case to the constitutional separation of powers
00:36:30.000 and whether a case called Licavoli should be a binding precedent—it should not—then Steve should be released pending appeal until that goes all the way up and through the Supreme Court.
00:36:42.000 And Judge Nichols may be forgiven for putting Steve back in jail, because at the time Judge Walker hadn't issued that dissent.
00:36:52.000 But now that dissent is there, and because Judge Walker has a very good track record in being right on these things, there's a good case for Judge Nichols that Steve Bannon should be out immediately again, released pending appeal.
00:37:08.000 All right.
00:37:10.000 All right.
00:37:11.000 That's number one.
00:37:12.000 Now, number two is the one that hits the closest home to me based on my own personal experience.
00:37:20.000 So I was held in contempt by a Democrat Congress, put in prosecution and indictment by a Democrat Attorney General, Merrick Garland.
00:37:34.000 And I was stripped of every possible defense by Judge Amit Mehta, based on this Licavoli decision, before I was sent to a D.C. jury, which was drawn from a jury pool that 95 percent voted for Joe Biden.
00:37:52.000 I didn't have—I didn't have a prayer in the friggin' world, okay?
00:37:56.000 But my case is, because it's moving up the chain through appeals court and eventually to the Supreme Court, my case is like the purest case of a senior presidential advisor upholding the doctrine of executive privilege of George Washington to preserve and defend the constitutional separation of powers.
00:38:21.000 I was the only guy ever charged with this crime as a senior presidential advisor in the White House at the time of the events.
00:38:30.000 Eric Holder is held in contempt.
00:38:34.000 They didn't prosecute him.
00:38:36.000 Eric Garland right now has a contempt charge.
00:38:38.000 They're not going to prosecute.
00:38:39.000 I'm the only guy, okay?
00:38:40.000 There's obviously huge, huge constitutional separation of powers.
00:38:45.000 Does Congress have the authority to hold me in contempt and issue that kind of subpoena?
00:38:56.000 What constitutes a proper or formal invocation of privilege which was raised by Judge Ahmet Mehta?
00:39:05.000 Does the judge himself have the constitutional authority to raise that question?
00:39:10.000 I mean, there's no question in my case.
00:39:12.000 There are very substantial issues in that Judge Ahmet Mehta should have released me pending appeal.
00:39:19.000 He did not do that.
00:39:20.000 I spent four months on a Miami vacation down there in a Joe Biden, Kamala Harris prison.
00:39:28.000 Shame on them.
00:39:30.000 I should have been released.
00:39:35.000 But even after I was sent there, and this is the important part, there's two pieces of landmark law, the First Step Act, which President Trump put into place, and the Second Chance Act, which was a little earlier, that provides for sentence reductions once you're in the slammer, provided you engage in good conduct and programmed behavior to get you ready for the outside.
00:40:04.000 And the way the formulas work in a four-month sentence, okay?
00:40:11.000 I went in March 19th.
00:40:14.000 I came out July 17th.
00:40:17.000 The only guy in that prison to serve the full term of his sentence.
00:40:22.000 Only guy.
00:40:23.000 And I was the only guy with a misdemeanor.
00:40:26.000 Everybody else was a felon.
00:40:27.000 Think about it.
00:40:28.000 I'm the guy who served my whole term there.
00:40:30.000 Now, what should have happened under the First Step Act and the Second Chance Act is I should have been released either to a halfway house or home confinement 42 days prior to July 17th when I was released.
00:40:46.000 And Steve is entitled to exactly, exactly the same relief under the law.
00:40:53.000 And the Bureau of Prisons will break the law if they do not allow Steve to go to home confinement 42 days earlier than his release date, which would allow him to get out in late September and get back to this microphone.
00:41:18.000 And participate in the 2024 election.
00:41:23.000 And that's the second reason that was part of the motion that Steve filed.
00:41:28.000 And if Steve stays in prison for the whole term, then for the second time in a row, the Bureau of Prisons and the district court will be breaking congressional law in the First Step Act and the Second Chance Act.
00:41:49.000 So on those two bases, there's a substantial issue.
00:41:55.000 In this case, he should be released pending appeal.
00:41:58.000 And in the alternative, as they say in the law, Steve is entitled under the First Step Act and the Second Chance Act to release 42 days earlier to home confinement where he could easily, from the Breitbart embassy, sit right at his microphone, drink his Warpath coffee,
00:42:20.000 and make a difference in this 2024 election.
00:42:27.000 That's what should happen.
00:42:29.000 CNN, you need to cover this story.
00:42:32.000 Fox, you need to cover this story.
00:42:36.000 This is a big story.
00:42:38.000 I broke it here because those bastards won't.
00:42:41.000 Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon.
00:42:44.000 Free Stephen K. Bannon.
00:42:47.000 I'll be right back.
00:43:06.000 I want to warn you of a huge change that could be coming to our money in our bank accounts.
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00:46:12.000 All right, Natalie, Natalie, Natalie, Natalie.
00:46:15.000 Let's bring in Natalie.
00:46:17.000 Home title up.
00:46:18.000 Hi.
00:46:19.000 What you got, Natalie?
00:46:20.000 Hi, Peter.
00:46:21.000 Happy to be here today.
00:46:22.000 Great.
00:46:23.000 So, you know, I'm glad you guys were talking about, you know, keeping yourself secure and not being, you know, tracked by government.
00:46:30.000 By now I've heard about the massive data breach that compromised 2.7 billion people in America.
00:46:36.000 Personal records including sensitive information like social security and addresses associated with those records.
00:46:42.000 The cyber attack puts millions, especially older Americans, at risk of things like identity theft and title fraud.
00:46:48.000 So today I just really want to talk about the importance of, you know, checking on your title and securing your assets.
00:46:54.000 Because as everyone here knows, here at home title lock, we always say when it comes to title fraud, time is of the essence.
00:47:00.000 The longer the fraud goes unnoticed, the more damage can happen.
00:47:03.000 So, take for instance, there was this attorney from LA that didn't know her title had been compromised until she was getting ready to sell her house.
00:47:10.000 And the realtor did a title search for ownership confirmation.
00:47:14.000 And they actually had to stop the sale because they found out that her title had been transferred to a man that she'd never met.
00:47:20.000 So now on paper, her home wasn't hers to sell.
00:47:23.000 And then when investigating how that happened, they actually found two other homeowners whose homes had also been transferred to the same man.
00:47:31.000 All without them knowing, all right under their nose.
00:47:34.000 And none of them would have even known had this attorney not tried to sell her house.
00:47:39.000 So since then, all three homeowners have filed civil lawsuits against this man.
00:47:45.000 And despite the attorney getting the authorities involved and the man actually being charged with multiple felonies, this is the sad reality for the homeowners.
00:47:53.000 Two of the civil cases to get the title back of the homeowners name are still pending and one has gone through.
00:47:59.000 So one title has been restored.
00:48:00.000 One title has been restored.
00:48:01.000 We're assuming it's the attorney, but we couldn't find the record of that.
00:48:04.000 But all I know is this.
00:48:06.000 The law is not on the homeowner's side.
00:48:08.000 When the homeowner's an attorney...
00:48:10.000 Natalie, what do we do here?
00:48:13.000 No, we've got to tell people how to get a hold of you right now.
00:48:16.000 Yeah, they can go to our website, HomeTitleLock.com, promo code WARROOM.
00:48:21.000 They can use the barcode if it's up on the screen.
00:48:24.000 They can do a 30-day free trial, home title report, check on their title, 30 days protection, talk to our team, ask us questions, cancel any time.
00:48:32.000 Really, guys, just check your records.
00:48:34.000 Just check and make sure you're secure.
00:48:36.000 It's so scary.
00:48:38.000 Natalie, thanks so much for sharing.
00:48:40.000 Have a great Labor Day.
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00:48:59.000 We're getting ready to go into Labor Day.
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00:52:09.000 All right, my brother.
00:52:11.000 You have a great weekend.
00:52:12.000 I think there's going to be a lot of six-packs this Labor Day weekend.
00:52:16.000 Make sure you get Mike Lindell's.
00:52:18.000 All right, my brother.
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