Bannon's War Room - August 31, 2024


Episode 3872: Censorship Abroad


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

171.90483

Word Count

9,395

Sentence Count

728

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

Jack Posobiec joins us on the show to talk about the recent Supreme Court ruling in favor of Jair Bolsonaro, and the implications for the future of Brazil's democracy. We also talk about how the Supreme Court is being used as a tool by the globalist agenda to delegitimize the will of the Brazilian people.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 What he wants to do is politicize the civil service, is remove the civil service's ability to protect itself from the politicians and make them all political appointees.
00:00:08.180 We already have a little bit of a problem that too many of our people in the federal government are political appointees.
00:00:13.440 It's crazy, the number. He wants to make it a patron.
00:00:16.080 Too many, yes.
00:00:16.600 He's taking it back to, like, the night, taking it back to, like, the night.
00:00:19.200 The thesis is that Republicans have had a systemic attack on recent history, and they're trying to bully our memories into submission.
00:00:26.480 And it's always part of an effort to rewrite recent history to benefit Republican politics, because as far as they're concerned, events from January 6th to the Trump-Russia scandal to the federal response to COVID, all those instances are just so dramatically, such a dramatic failure for them that they feel it's necessary to rewrite recent history.
00:00:44.540 And then the effects of that are dramatic.
00:00:46.160 It affects everything from legislation to elections to even democracy itself, because really, when you think about it, democracy rests on a foundation of shared knowledge.
00:00:54.680 And when that knowledge is corrupted on purpose, bipartisans, the corrosive effects are dramatic.
00:01:03.240 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:01:08.200 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:01:13.440 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:01:17.700 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:01:19.600 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:01:20.780 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:01:23.660 It's going to happen.
00:01:25.020 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:01:28.400 Mega Media.
00:01:29.740 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:01:35.180 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:01:38.960 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:01:45.220 War Room.
00:01:46.140 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:01:48.480 Dave Brat sitting in with the great Stephen K. Bannon.
00:01:58.840 Democracy, that's the buzzword for today's show.
00:02:02.540 You're hearing it from the left, but you've heard Mike Benz give a tour de force on how they're degrading that term, how they're using that term.
00:02:11.880 We have a great guest on.
00:02:14.100 We're going to go around the horn on that democracy concept and how it's been abused.
00:02:20.420 And so, Jack Posobiec, welcome to the show this morning.
00:02:24.500 The crowd favorite on all things international.
00:02:27.440 We had Eric Trump on the other day on the campaign side.
00:02:29.980 And, you know, he said everything.
00:02:31.020 He said issues one, two, and three are economics, economics, economics.
00:02:34.120 But that's all tied in with this globalist assault on the country, right?
00:02:41.340 The border immigration, the endless wars, the woken weaponized is being inflicted upon us.
00:02:46.960 And so give us the breaking news in Brazil you've been reporting on and covering.
00:02:52.240 And, you know, connect the dots, as Steve would say.
00:02:55.700 Welcome, Jack.
00:02:57.100 Well, Dave, thanks so much for having me on.
00:02:58.660 So, folks, you need to understand, so the Brazilian Supreme Court judge, and people have to understand that Brazil's Supreme Court operates very differently than the way our Supreme Court does.
00:03:06.900 It's completely leftist, and it set the conditions to steal the election from the people of Brazil a couple years ago and then install Lula, the criminal, in power.
00:03:16.340 Steve was here.
00:03:17.020 He campaigned and explained all of that.
00:03:19.020 But Lula was a guy, full-on communist, that they pulled out of prison, put him back on the ballot.
00:03:24.320 Then the communist-controlled Supreme Court basically set the conditions so that he would win the election.
00:03:29.380 In any case, that year Bolsonaro brought up against them was struck down.
00:03:33.320 This was all done, by the way, with the backing of the United States State Department and elements of what Darren Beatty would call the globalist American empire.
00:03:41.620 So they set up this massive stolen election down in Brazil because Bolsonaro, remember, he was the Trump of the tropics.
00:03:48.120 He was the guy that was pushing the populist national agenda down there in South America.
00:03:53.360 And, by the way, Millet, right next door, is basically doing the same thing in Argentina.
00:03:58.060 So I would imagine that he would be the next one in the crosshairs.
00:04:01.120 But they have a problem because X, formerly known as Twitter, is a huge platform in Brazil and had been a huge platform prior to this.
00:04:10.500 Now, when Bolsonaro got on, he was getting tons of support and he was using X to create these massive public rallies that he was going up there and saying, we need to go out and we need to demonstrate in the streets.
00:04:21.760 We need to put things up.
00:04:22.880 And then what did they do?
00:04:23.860 Oh, you guys might remember this one.
00:04:26.680 The Supreme Court, this guy, this total psychopath, by the way, Alexandro de Moraes.
00:04:31.520 And I don't know if Denver has got a photo of this guy and, like, he looks like, you know, a character from the Harry Potter series with these capes that he wears.
00:04:38.600 He's like the he's like the, you know, the witch of the West down there, the witch of the South, I guess.
00:04:43.540 And he or he declared it all to be an insurrection.
00:04:47.620 Oh, where have I heard that one before?
00:04:49.320 So he declares it an insurrection and color revolution style, as we've seen the regime use in place after place after place.
00:04:56.600 But then he has another problem because Bolsonaro supporters are still on X and X refuses to comply because in Brazil, X is considered a fault, a foreign social media platform.
00:05:05.960 So he goes to Elon Musk and says, I will arrest your representatives in Brazil.
00:05:11.460 I will find them.
00:05:12.880 I will shut them down if you do not begin censorship operations on X specifically.
00:05:18.320 Elon refuses.
00:05:19.320 Then he says, I will start fining you if you do not run censorship operations against these ban.
00:05:24.400 He said, ban the accounts.
00:05:26.220 Take down everyone who's supporting Bolsonaro.
00:05:28.160 Take down anyone who's been associated with these.
00:05:30.360 And, oh, by the way, a number of secret orders that were told, secret orders that haven't even been released yet.
00:05:36.980 If anyone's read about any communist regime, I know somebody who wrote a book on those.
00:05:41.400 You would you would not be surprised at all because this is exactly what communist regimes do.
00:05:44.900 So basically he was ordering Elon to give over the data of anyone or any account anonymously who participated in one of these rallies so that they could peel off the user data, find that person and go arrest them and throw them in jail.
00:05:56.460 So the locking up of dissidents, the locking up of freedom fighters, the locking up of the faithful.
00:06:01.120 Elon refuses, refuses, refuses.
00:06:02.460 First, what they do is they order him to take down Starlink.
00:06:06.480 So first they ban Star, totally separate entity, by the way.
00:06:09.140 But it doesn't matter because when the government wants to put screws to you, they're going to.
00:06:12.180 So then they take down Starlink and they say, Elon, we will do this to X if you don't comply.
00:06:16.720 Elon says no again.
00:06:17.600 I'm not going to comply.
00:06:19.020 So now they've taken down X throughout all of Brazil.
00:06:22.140 And there's now a fine of something like $9,000 if you use because a lot of people know how to use VPNs and look, you know, War Room and Human Events.
00:06:32.980 We've got VPN sponsors, et cetera.
00:06:34.480 So, you know, they work.
00:06:35.620 But they're saying if you're caught using a VPN to access X or any other social media platform to spread this stuff, you will be fined $9,000 per instance for, quote, unquote, technological subterfuge to get around what they call lawful court orders.
00:06:54.340 So this is what they do, folks.
00:06:55.480 They infiltrate, they seize, and then they purge.
00:06:59.020 And we laid this out in Unhumans, that you infiltrate the institutions, so the institution puts out an unlawful order, but they claim it is a lawful order.
00:07:07.380 Then they seize all the means of power, and then they systematically begin purging the country of any institution, any individual, any movement that they declare to be a suppressive, that they declare to be a subversive, that they declare to be a dissident.
00:07:20.860 They go after you.
00:07:21.860 They'll go after your family.
00:07:22.880 They go after your business.
00:07:24.100 This is what happens.
00:07:24.800 And, oh, by the way, why is all of this happening now?
00:07:27.020 I'll tell you why it's happening now.
00:07:28.020 Because these guys are joined at the hip with the U.S. regime.
00:07:31.560 They're joined at the hip with the leftists that have done the same thing in our government.
00:07:35.840 Okay?
00:07:36.060 This is key through the State Department.
00:07:38.080 And it is a threat.
00:07:39.960 It is an open threat to Elon Musk that if you do not commit to censorship operations in the 2024 U.S. presidential election, then guess what?
00:07:50.160 This is what we are going to do to you.
00:07:51.820 It is an open threat not only to Elon Musk, but also to Donald Trump because of the true social entity, to Getter, to Instagram, TikTok, all the rest of it, that this is what will be done.
00:08:03.640 You know, Clarence Thomas and Mike Davis like to remind us of the dead chicken strategy, and that's exactly what they're attempting to do with Elon Musk right now.
00:08:10.300 Yeah, unreal.
00:08:12.520 That's some dot connection.
00:08:14.980 Steve Bannon looking over the horizon with Jack.
00:08:18.460 And just a great team we have here, right?
00:08:20.880 Raheem and Harnwell, the whole team working on these issues.
00:08:25.880 Mike Benzon.
00:08:26.740 And you just dropped the color revolution term, right?
00:08:30.300 And you've been covering that for years.
00:08:32.620 And so in Ukraine, I just read headlines today, the CIA appears to be in on U.S. strategy and holding ground in Russia.
00:08:43.820 And so in order to save democracy, of course, the United States pulled up a coup d'etat in Ukraine in 2014 to install democracy.
00:08:53.320 Whoa, that sounds great.
00:08:54.380 Except in the meantime, they shut down.
00:08:57.180 There's no elections.
00:08:58.140 There's not a free press.
00:08:59.400 There's repression.
00:09:00.240 They're going after the religious folks.
00:09:02.720 This is happening around the world.
00:09:05.360 And as you made a link, it's happening in this country right now.
00:09:09.020 Stephen K. Bannon is in prison.
00:09:10.820 Navarro got out.
00:09:11.740 They can put Trump in prison any time.
00:09:14.640 This week, the Facebook, Zuckerberg, admits openly.
00:09:19.560 You reported on it about three years ago, I think.
00:09:21.880 And we covered it broadly on the War Room.
00:09:24.380 The collusion between the federal government putting pressure on the Magnificent Seven, right?
00:09:29.500 Those firms are as wealthy as all the European stock market combined, our Magnificent Seven firms.
00:09:36.020 That's what the American people, we the people, are fighting.
00:09:39.240 So if it feels heavy on us, it is.
00:09:42.160 But, Jack, maybe you want to connect those dots.
00:09:44.760 And then where's the leadership, you know, in addition to President Trump, who's out on these issues?
00:09:51.480 Where's the U.S. Senate?
00:09:52.940 They're supposed to be the foreign policy heavyweights.
00:09:54.980 And I'm not hearing anything.
00:09:58.300 So the way this is being run, you mentioned a color revolution.
00:10:01.920 And this is a series of seemingly popular uprisings or movements that are then orchestrated, planned, and used in regimes that are considered, quote-unquote, hostile to globalist interests.
00:10:20.420 And then those protests and movements will be used to topple governments.
00:10:24.840 When those protests and movements don't work, then they will move to other means.
00:10:30.300 So this is what you're seeing in Brazil.
00:10:31.700 You mentioned Ukraine.
00:10:32.840 Ten years ago, that was used to throw out a democratically elected president.
00:10:37.980 Remember, in the name of democracy, they threw out a democratically elected president.
00:10:41.320 Now they have a guy who is Yanukovych.
00:10:45.040 Then they have a guy named Zelensky who's there right now, although his term ended all the way back in May.
00:10:51.040 So his term ended three months ago.
00:10:52.860 Yet he's still in office because of what?
00:10:54.900 Oh, martial law.
00:10:56.300 So he's in office because of martial law.
00:10:58.300 And, by the way, numerous members of the regime have mentioned again and again that this has never been about Ukraine, that it has always been about trying to affect regime change in Russia.
00:11:10.540 They'll say, well, maybe if we – so this explains why they would commit what would seem like to anyone else a potential suicide move of actually attempting to invade Russia, especially as we're moving into the fall.
00:11:21.920 Winter is coming not long away.
00:11:23.960 And they will say, why would you commit?
00:11:26.040 You don't have the troops.
00:11:26.880 You just lost an F-16 a couple of days ago, the first F-16 that was lost.
00:11:30.460 And, of course, the Ukrainians say it was just a malfunction.
00:11:33.600 It was just a malfunction.
00:11:34.540 It was definitely not taken out by Russians.
00:11:36.440 OK, we'll see.
00:11:37.220 And they explain, though, that it has nothing to do with actually achieving Ukrainian victory or securing Ukrainian peace, which they could have done all the way back in March of 2022.
00:11:49.220 But then they sent Boris Johnson over there to scuttle the peace talks that were happening down that were being negotiated by Erdogan in Istanbul.
00:11:57.520 No.
00:11:57.980 What it's about is trying to affect regime change in Russia.
00:12:01.640 They're trying to get Putin out of office.
00:12:03.480 They're trying to set this up.
00:12:04.620 They want it to create a wider potential civil war that affects the Russian government.
00:12:10.480 Russia understands this, and they're responding as if they are threatened because they are.
00:12:15.900 Yeah.
00:12:16.140 And a while back, I think a picture of Victoria Nuland meeting with the heads of big oil, big energy in the United States over there over access issues to the Black Sea.
00:12:27.900 And so – and there's rare earth minerals in Ukraine, et cetera.
00:12:32.860 So what else underlies this?
00:12:35.260 It's usually always economic power.
00:12:37.320 Well, there used to be – you know, it's funny.
00:12:38.800 There used to be – there was this oil company, oil and natural gas company over in Ukraine that was really interested.
00:12:47.860 And the U.S. was working with them, and then they started funding the Atlantic Council, which is a NATO think tank.
00:12:52.220 And Mike Benz went through all this chapter and verse on Tucker.
00:12:55.180 And they wanted to ingratiate themselves with the United States.
00:12:58.240 And so they appointed somebody to their board to try to get some – oh, that's right.
00:13:02.440 It was Hunter Biden, the son of the vice president.
00:13:04.220 So this explains to everyone how it all works.
00:13:07.160 First, you knock over the government.
00:13:09.920 Then you install your people within the resource extraction entities of the new government.
00:13:17.880 This is what Burisma would be.
00:13:19.400 And then the deals get signed with the U.S. regime.
00:13:22.960 So the deals then would be for the oil, the natural gas rights, et cetera, as you're talking – because the grand prize in all of this is about the energy sales to Europe.
00:13:32.080 And this is also where Nord Stream 2 comes in and why Nord Stream 2 was targeted for destruction because whoever controls the energy sales to Europe because they've completely destroyed themselves from an energy perspective.
00:13:42.660 Germany is blowing up their nuclear plants they just did a couple of days ago.
00:13:46.620 They destroyed the cooling towers.
00:13:48.160 And so when you understand that this is a prize worth trillions of dollars and they will stop at nothing and they do not care how many bodies lie in their wake in order to achieve their ends.
00:14:02.080 Yeah, fantastic.
00:14:03.620 We're going to hold you over for the break, Jack.
00:14:06.300 But, you know, this is all kind of on the shoulders of President Trump, right?
00:14:12.520 America first.
00:14:13.880 People across the mainstream used to think, you know, that's a trendy tagline.
00:14:19.160 It's not.
00:14:19.840 Putting America first is a serious, substantial foreign policy regime in order to save this country.
00:14:26.660 And you've just heard Jack connect just some of the dots.
00:14:30.240 And so where is the U.S. Senate?
00:14:32.740 Where is the Speaker of the House on these issues?
00:14:35.480 There's down-ballot races that are not looking hot right now because the Republicans are not putting forward a clear agenda.
00:14:42.520 All political views are my own.
00:14:44.160 And so we're going to be back after the break with the great Jack Posobiec to talk about sharing the burden of messaging and what the House and Senate could be doing to help save this republic.
00:14:56.520 These are serious issues.
00:14:58.020 No better guess than Jack.
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00:17:27.040 Back in the war room with Jack Posobiec connecting all the dots.
00:17:30.820 Mike Benz, in his latest Tucker interview, made a very provocative statement, thesis, said there is no domestic agenda.
00:17:39.480 We don't have a domestic agenda because it's all being dwarfed and stomped by the globalist agenda.
00:17:45.840 And so I think Jack has just been reporting on, you know, the connections between big media, Brazil, the CIA, the cutouts, the color revolutions, connecting all those dots.
00:17:59.700 I think there's even more.
00:18:01.120 On the Republican side, we have rare unity right now on the border invasion, federal government spending, deficit spending on woke and weaponized federal government, and then endless wars.
00:18:13.700 And so, Jack, how is the border invasion linked to Brazil, Elon Musk, et cetera?
00:18:21.640 I think you've got some great new reporting on that.
00:18:23.660 Well, Dave, it's actually very clear.
00:18:26.380 So if you go and look at what Elon's been talking about most recently in the past week or so, a few people, myself, Senator Mike Lee, and in drips and drabs, occasionally Speaker Johnson will say things about this.
00:18:41.020 And Elon has come in and given a full-throated support to the effort to attach the SAVE Act to the September spending bill.
00:18:52.420 So September begins tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen.
00:18:55.180 September begins tomorrow.
00:18:56.800 The federal government runs out of money on September 30th.
00:18:59.500 That means if they want this through, they need to get the sign-off on the House.
00:19:02.940 So where do spending bills originate, boys and girls?
00:19:05.200 And Dave Ratner knows this one.
00:19:06.940 You don't even need to be a Liberty University student to know this one.
00:19:09.580 This is in the House.
00:19:12.540 But I bet you that's on the final exam at Liberty University.
00:19:15.460 Other universities, not so much.
00:19:18.020 So Elon has said this is a fantastic idea.
00:19:21.060 Stop illegals from voting.
00:19:22.540 Create the shaping operation to put the forcing function of the SAVE Act in the spending bill.
00:19:28.320 Threaten to shut down the government over this.
00:19:30.380 I've been behind it.
00:19:31.400 Senator Mike Lee is behind it.
00:19:32.920 Mike Johnson has made a couple of statements to press about it, but we haven't seen anything public.
00:19:37.320 Mitch McConnell has said he's totally against this plan, but we know that the Democrats and the Senate are against it.
00:19:43.240 We know Biden is against it.
00:19:44.300 Who's for it?
00:19:44.860 Elon Musk is for it.
00:19:46.160 So the minute that Elon Musk came out for attaching the SAVE Act to and using the threat of a federal shutdown, that's when the regime went absolutely too sweet against Elon.
00:19:56.580 They ratcheted everything up a notch.
00:19:58.460 They started banning Starlink.
00:19:59.680 They started banning X down in Brazil.
00:20:01.100 Said, we're going to come after you.
00:20:02.080 You need to stop doing this.
00:20:03.280 They're threatening Elon over this because the SAVE Act threatens them.
00:20:06.460 And don't forget, Brazil is where – and go talk to Ben Berquam.
00:20:08.880 He knows this better than anyone.
00:20:10.200 That Brazil is part of the origination of the rat lines.
00:20:13.080 This is down in the border triangle area.
00:20:15.380 The border – remember, even Kamala Harris has admitted this was the root causes, et cetera, et cetera.
00:20:19.020 It's all coming out through South America.
00:20:22.040 And so what do you need to do?
00:20:23.720 You have the SAVE Act.
00:20:25.100 This is what prevents the illegals from voting.
00:20:27.580 It creates the forcing function of setting conditions for victory in November.
00:20:32.440 That's what they're terrified about is the SAVE Act.
00:20:34.820 And yet Republicans in the House and the Senate have not made this the clarion call.
00:20:40.020 You should be banging the drums right now.
00:20:41.520 Folks, we have four weeks.
00:20:42.680 We can actually get this passed because we have real leverage right now.
00:20:45.860 And we all know that if Steve Bannon – we're outside of prison, if he were here right now, this is the number one thing he would be talking about.
00:20:52.780 And he and I have spoken over the ridiculous prison email system, so Merrick Garland already knows about the idea.
00:20:59.060 And Steve says he supports this plan 110 percent.
00:21:02.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:03.680 But, Jack, let me play devil's advocate with you, right?
00:21:07.280 We're losing down-ticket races already because we don't have any message.
00:21:11.100 And so why would you want to inject the negative message, which might risk our Republican majorities who are running on nothing right now, right?
00:21:18.680 This seems to be a pattern.
00:21:19.900 Harris is running on nothing.
00:21:21.480 It's a Seinfeld show on nothing.
00:21:23.500 The House and the Senate have nothing to say about any major issues I've heard in public.
00:21:28.380 And so that's all sarcasm and all politics are my own.
00:21:32.040 But do you think this could unite the country?
00:21:35.320 I think the polling is 70, 80 percent on this SAVE Act.
00:21:38.000 Why in the world wouldn't the speaker run on this?
00:21:41.560 And that's exactly what I'm saying is that you put that down there and you say this is a positive message.
00:21:46.880 It's a message about election integrity.
00:21:48.780 And here's what you do, by the way.
00:21:50.700 Here's what you do.
00:21:51.860 You say you take all the messaging that the Democrats put out from their DNC, which I attended because I infiltrated that thing.
00:21:59.340 Take all their messaging and say, excuse me, excuse me.
00:22:01.960 We're securing democracy.
00:22:04.240 Are you guys against securing democracy?
00:22:06.700 Are you guys against defending democracy?
00:22:08.640 We have to defend democracy because we have to make sure that foreigners and non-citizens don't interfere in our elections.
00:22:15.100 Surely you wouldn't be against interfering in democracy, would you guys?
00:22:18.360 Exactly.
00:22:18.640 That would send them in absolute knots.
00:22:20.820 And keep in mind that President Trump could drop this.
00:22:24.380 Think of this, what he could do, because he said to Monica Crowley the other day that he totally supports this plan as well.
00:22:28.460 He could go to Kamala Harris at the debate in Philadelphia in just 10 days' time, and he could jam her up on the stage by skipping whatever ridiculous question that George Slopadopoulos asks and then turn to her and say, do you support the SAVE Act or do you want illegals voting in our election?
00:22:45.440 Yes or no, Madam Vice President?
00:22:47.480 Answer the question.
00:22:48.420 Answer the question.
00:22:49.300 And then just drill down on that.
00:22:50.920 That would be an incredible moment at the debate.
00:22:53.640 I would implore President Trump to use this time, and that gives you 20 days for her to have to agree before the American people.
00:23:00.940 And if she doesn't, then we'll know who's on the side of democracy and who's not.
00:23:05.660 Use their own tactics against them.
00:23:08.300 You got it.
00:23:09.260 Perfect.
00:23:09.720 Perfect, Jack.
00:23:10.760 I think you got a new book coming out, How Do People Get to You?
00:23:13.620 And everybody, buy Jack Posobiec's books, know better on the globalist threat to this country.
00:23:19.940 Jack, how do they get you?
00:23:21.540 Well, I wanted to take this time to also point out that there's a reason that all this is happening and something that understands the true—to understand the true nature of our republic and the true nature of our regime, we must understand that they will do anything possible to take out Donald Trump.
00:23:38.760 And they will take out anyone else who stands in their way.
00:23:41.660 And so that's why I'm putting together and have put together a new book called Bulletproof, how a shot meant for Donald Trump took out Joe Biden.
00:23:52.240 If you think that the official narrative on the story of Trump's assassination is true, then you have not been paying attention.
00:23:59.940 We walk you through chapter and verse what has gone on, the lies that were told by FBI Director Wray, the lies that have been told by the original Supreme—Secret Service head,
00:24:10.900 the lies that are being told by the current Secret Service head.
00:24:13.720 We're going to walk you through the questions that aren't answered.
00:24:16.000 And we have even done independent investigations on the ground in Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, as well as Butler, Pennsylvania, stuff that I have not even released yet.
00:24:26.580 There's even information out here, quite frankly, that we think that if we put this out, that people are going to be coming for me and my family.
00:24:34.760 That's what they did to Trump.
00:24:36.500 That's what they did to Biden.
00:24:37.900 We are going to get to the bottom of this.
00:24:39.920 And this book, by the way, will be out October 22nd prior to the election.
00:24:45.460 So it is incumbent on everyone to get this and understand the true nature of what we're up against.
00:24:51.220 This is not left and right.
00:24:52.520 This is regime warfare that we are in right now.
00:24:55.840 We've embarked in regime warfare, and we must fight as dissidents against that.
00:25:00.480 That's why you're seeing Democrats, liberals, centrists, all the rest of it join up with President Trump now.
00:25:05.140 RFK, by the way, this is something that we called for, the Commission on Assassinations.
00:25:09.500 Now he's on board.
00:25:10.920 You put President Trump in office.
00:25:12.880 He will give the declassification authority to RFK, not just on his father and his uncle, but also on J-13.
00:25:20.020 Right.
00:25:21.360 Thanks for fighting for the country, Jack.
00:25:23.100 Thanks for being on the war room.
00:25:24.560 Everybody loves you.
00:25:25.440 Keep it up.
00:25:26.980 God bless, Dave.
00:25:28.400 You bet.
00:25:28.940 Thank you, brother.
00:25:29.960 All right.
00:25:30.840 Next up, and we're going to hold him over the break, Hans von Spakovsky, Heritage Foundation, author of the SAVE Act.
00:25:37.540 Hans, why don't you just give us an overview of how that bill came together very briefly?
00:25:42.760 We've got about two minutes left.
00:25:44.720 And then polling, you know, are the American people behind this thing?
00:25:47.940 I would guess they are.
00:25:49.300 Welcome to the war room, Hans.
00:25:51.340 Thanks.
00:25:52.200 Look, Chip Roy, as you know, sponsored this bill because he knows aliens are registering and voting across the country.
00:26:01.160 And in some places like California, they're encouraging it.
00:26:05.060 They want it to happen.
00:26:08.160 Yep.
00:26:08.780 Just unbelievable.
00:26:09.980 Give us, give the audience a sense of what exactly is in the bill.
00:26:13.520 How does it work?
00:26:14.240 The SAVE Act simply says that under the National Voter Registration Act, it's amended and states have to require proof of citizenship when you register to vote.
00:26:26.980 The left has been fighting that for years.
00:26:31.760 You know, Jack mentioned Senator Lee.
00:26:34.160 I was in a hearing in the Senate not too long ago.
00:26:37.840 He asked every one of the witnesses, do you believe aliens should be able to vote in U.S. elections?
00:26:44.800 I said no.
00:26:46.160 The other Republican witness said no.
00:26:48.480 All the liberal witnesses didn't want to answer the question.
00:26:52.480 And that tells you everything you need to know about this.
00:26:54.920 Yeah, no, that's right.
00:26:57.340 And we've had some greats, you know, Rosemary Jenks and all the great immigration folks we have on the show.
00:27:03.860 And they say it's already a felony.
00:27:06.680 Is that just in certain states or is it federal law right now for illegals to vote in our federal elections?
00:27:13.920 No, it's a felony under federal law.
00:27:16.320 And, of course, that's the constant answer Democrats give.
00:27:18.900 Well, it's already a felony.
00:27:20.260 We don't need to do anything else.
00:27:21.600 Well, I guess that means all our federal prisons must be empty because fear of the law is keeping all these criminals and other people from violating the law.
00:27:34.120 Yeah, what's the reluctance, if this is so popular, of the Speaker in the Senate?
00:27:40.400 I haven't heard the leaders speaking out in favor of this.
00:27:43.660 It's about 15 seconds till break.
00:27:45.320 Well, the one thing the Speaker did do is he actually released a report.
00:27:50.600 His office did on this.
00:27:52.000 And another day, another breaking news story buried.
00:27:55.040 They rather talk about anything else than what's really going on.
00:27:58.100 It's not because they don't know what's happening.
00:28:00.420 The media pundits and talking heads just don't want to pay any attention to it.
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00:29:48.560 Back in the war room with the great Hans von Spakovsky, Heritage Foundation, with Chip Roy in the House pushing the SAVE Act.
00:29:59.020 Hans, what other connections you want to make between this and the political?
00:30:05.220 All political views are always my own.
00:30:07.700 But what are the implications of the SAVE Act for elections?
00:30:10.500 The Speaker seems to be scared of it.
00:30:13.520 They're not going all in on a 70% or 80% issue, which seems strange to me.
00:30:18.340 The Senate is equally silent.
00:30:20.940 What's your view on the politics of this SAVE Act?
00:30:24.220 The politics is overwhelmingly positive.
00:30:27.900 Americans don't believe aliens should be voting, and that goes across all political lines.
00:30:32.960 It doesn't matter whether people are Democrats, independents, or Republicans.
00:30:36.820 You know, this is a good issue to push.
00:30:40.000 Plus, it's fundamentally unfair to Americans when aliens are registering and voting elections because it dilutes their vote.
00:30:49.060 And for folks who say it isn't happening, sorry, we not only have had recent convictions, but in Texas, they just removed 6,500 aliens from the rolls just by checking DMV records.
00:31:03.340 Virginia just removed 6,300, and remember, not everybody registers through DMV.
00:31:10.860 So that tells us there's a lot bigger problem out there.
00:31:15.040 And you just have to wonder, why are Democrats uniformly against it?
00:31:20.180 Well, I'll tell you why.
00:31:21.360 They want aliens registering.
00:31:23.400 They want aliens voting because they believe it will help them in elections.
00:31:29.160 Yeah, I think that's right, Hans.
00:31:34.520 Also, give us, in closing, let folks know how to get you.
00:31:39.080 But, you know, I've been fighting this fight.
00:31:41.260 I ran on this 10 years ago, right, back in the big Virginia election.
00:31:45.500 And it was before we knew there was a populist movement sitting there that was just fed up with this kind of stuff.
00:31:52.820 So it seems like we have majorities of the American people on this side of the football, and it's populist.
00:31:59.040 It's like you said, it's Democrat and Republicans, black, brown, blue-collar workers.
00:32:04.220 Why in the world doesn't this issue take off, the immigration thing?
00:32:08.820 I think inflation is still number one, the economy.
00:32:10.960 This thing is sitting there, too, I think.
00:32:13.240 But why isn't it – it seems like Americans should just be infuriated.
00:32:17.720 Why aren't they?
00:32:18.720 And why doesn't this just drive everyone to the polls?
00:32:22.700 Well, part of the problem is the propaganda of the left.
00:32:26.740 You'll see one story after another in the mainstream press saying, oh, this isn't an issue.
00:32:31.320 What needs to happen is the conservative side needs to take the very specific examples of prosecutions of aliens who have registered voting,
00:32:40.600 the surveys showing where they admit they're registered in their voting, and they need to make – we need to make a very big deal about this
00:32:48.740 so the average American understands this is a current and growing problem the more aliens are let into the country across the southern border.
00:32:59.220 Yeah, thank Hans.
00:33:00.380 Hans, how do they get a hold of you, Hans, and your great work?
00:33:03.760 Go to heritage.org, heritage.org, and they'll see everything I write there.
00:33:09.280 Great, great.
00:33:10.060 Thanks for being on the show, brother.
00:33:11.280 Great job.
00:33:11.860 Sure thing.
00:33:12.540 Bye-bye.
00:33:13.460 All right.
00:33:13.920 We got another War Room regular on energy.
00:33:17.140 No one better than the great Dave Walsh.
00:33:19.340 Dave, welcome to the War Room.
00:33:21.020 Glad to have you on, brother.
00:33:22.880 And why don't you just start off on the international – I've been interested.
00:33:28.680 You know, we had no wars going on four years ago.
00:33:32.260 Now we have at least four hotspots.
00:33:34.360 According to some analysts, we have 12 hotspots.
00:33:37.100 Firms don't seem to be pricing any of this into the stock market, the risk of this kind of thing.
00:33:41.340 These wars, you know, the Red Sea, Israel, Iran, Saudi's now in play.
00:33:48.360 They're off the petrodollar.
00:33:49.720 I mean, there's serious stuff going on around the globe.
00:33:51.800 How should those issues factor into our energy strategy as a country?
00:34:00.800 Well, we need to be all-in energy.
00:34:02.720 We need to be drill, baby, drill.
00:34:04.980 Absolutely.
00:34:05.740 We need to frack, baby, frack.
00:34:07.240 We need to be able to export natural gas heavily to retain our importance on geopolitical matters.
00:34:14.220 Let me delve into that just for a quick moment.
00:34:15.940 I never said I'd ban fracking, and I'm not going to ban fracking, Kamala.
00:34:24.080 That's lawyer speak.
00:34:25.240 It's clever speak.
00:34:25.980 It's clever attorney speak.
00:34:27.320 Clever attorney speak is you say one very specific, hyper-specific thing, but you continue all of the policies of the administration that she's been the second in command of, which have been the following,
00:34:37.940 to destroy demand for natural gas in this country, so you never really have to ban fracking.
00:34:44.160 You simply destroy demand for it by doing the following.
00:34:47.160 Set up incentives through the Biden IRA to wind, solar, and battery storage only, and biomass.
00:34:52.360 You block pipelines, such as the Atlantic Pipeline, the Mountain Valley Pipeline.
00:34:56.640 You stifle any natural gas production on federal lands completely, which they've done.
00:35:01.320 You issue EPA policies calling for the cessation of large combined cycle plants, which produce 41 percent of the nation's electricity by 2035 by making them non-economic, by making them carbon capture adoption or hydrogen fuel compatible, which can happen at $4 billion per power plant, and then make that resource totally non-economic.
00:35:24.680 So at that time, they'll say, oh, look, gas is non-economic.
00:35:26.880 And then finally, when you look at this, you've got the same phenomenon with coal.
00:35:32.920 Coal production reduced in this country by about 80 percent over the last 50 years as we've transitioned from coal to gas for power generation, and there was never one announcement of any federal official on the cessation of coal mining.
00:35:46.720 They didn't need to do that.
00:35:48.180 The Dems went after it in 16 other ways to completely suppress and make impossible economically demand for coal.
00:35:54.980 That's what they're going to continue to do.
00:35:56.920 That's what she's done in four years in the White House sharing it with Biden.
00:36:00.880 She's going to continue.
00:36:01.800 So this is – this is – for lawyers speaking, we're not going to ban fracking.
00:36:05.120 They don't need to.
00:36:05.960 They've got too many other tools at their disposal.
00:36:08.940 Right.
00:36:09.520 Good.
00:36:09.940 So all that laundry list.
00:36:11.860 Go over your thesis statement on that first point you made, and then we're going to go to a clip for 20 seconds.
00:36:16.280 But so what you're saying is on the fracking, she doesn't even have to go after it now because of what – just in a nutshell.
00:36:23.760 In a nutshell, why?
00:36:25.320 Because –
00:36:26.180 The collection of their policies on anti-federal land use for natural gas production, blocking pipeline transmission of it.
00:36:33.540 Oh, and then stepping in front of permits to build more LNG export facilities, which is all fracked gas converted to LNG.
00:36:40.880 They've gotten in the way of that 16-month timeout on issuing new permits to construct LNG export facilities, which are inside of the $350 billion of oil and gas we export to make ourselves politically important and sustain a balance of trade.
00:36:55.400 So as they keep these policies in place, which they're going to double down on them, they don't need to announce the cessation of fracking.
00:37:02.620 It's going to happen anyhow as they stifle demand for gas, which is a sin.
00:37:07.120 Yeah, so they can make any statements they want.
00:37:10.440 Let's do a 20-second clip here and get your response on the flip side of it, Dave.
00:37:16.120 When you were in Congress, you supported the Green New Deal.
00:37:19.300 And in 2019, you said, quote, there is no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.
00:37:25.360 Fracking, as you know, is a pretty big issue, particularly in your must-win state of Pennsylvania.
00:37:31.000 Do you still want to ban fracking?
00:37:33.240 No, and I made that clear on the debate stage in 2020.
00:37:38.240 Yeah, Dave, I'm sure you've seen that clip in others.
00:37:40.800 What's your gut response on the politics of these issues?
00:37:43.640 So she's lying.
00:37:45.580 She has said this explicitly.
00:37:47.840 But secondly, even if she holds to the lawyerly, attorney-like language that we will never ban fracking,
00:37:56.600 they continue to aggressively support all policies about the cessation of using natural gas for anything.
00:38:03.640 Electrify everything, electrify stoves, electrify home heating, stop producing gas on federal lands,
00:38:11.560 stop exporting it by the DOE shutting off permits to build new LNG terminals, which they've done now,
00:38:19.500 16-month time out on those, and by forcing the shutdown of gas-fired power plants,
00:38:24.440 which produce 41 percent of our electricity to begin with.
00:38:27.260 So with those policies underway, with her full support doubled down on and continued,
00:38:33.200 there won't be any demand for gas because it will then be deemed, oh, it's simply too expensive to harvest.
00:38:39.040 You know, we've shut off the federal lands capability of escalating the supply of it.
00:38:43.700 We've made it too expensive by, oh, additional EPA regulations on methane and propane emissions,
00:38:49.000 which are coming, to make it impossible economically to harvest natural gas.
00:38:53.240 So they won't have to announce a cessation of fracking, which is now the dominant way of producing it.
00:38:59.460 Sounds like a dirty thing, but it's the dominant, clean way of producing it.
00:39:02.940 They won't have to announce a kibosh on that because they will have stifled demand for it completely
00:39:07.380 with all the other policies in place.
00:39:10.120 Yeah. Give us some sense of the magnitude of these big pieces, right?
00:39:14.600 Oil, gas, the green stuff.
00:39:18.140 You know, I was in Congress.
00:39:19.220 It always comes down to money, power, and control.
00:39:21.620 Every single issue, right? Money, power, control.
00:39:24.840 We had pictures, right? Ukraine, right?
00:39:27.600 Our CIA today, I just saw the headline, we're going to park in Russia for a while.
00:39:32.620 They want access.
00:39:33.780 They got pictures of Victoria Nuland with the heads of very powerful U.S. energy titans.
00:39:41.020 And so that certainly has an impact on our energy mix.
00:39:45.480 But what is the politics?
00:39:46.860 Why is the left, you know, just burying and getting rid of the equivalent of, you know,
00:39:53.040 Saudi Arabia under the United States of America?
00:39:56.760 What could be bigger?
00:39:58.000 Why wouldn't they go with that and take all the benefits?
00:40:00.300 Why this green piece?
00:40:01.480 Why is that so powerful politically for them?
00:40:03.240 It appears to be a convergence of the Chinese money now very involved in our politics through blackpacks and heavy influence.
00:40:14.040 In A, the Chinese have converted our power generation equipment supply that was about 2% China content only seven years ago to now 67% content of all power generation assets,
00:40:27.140 refurbishments, refurbishments, upgrades, new equipment, are emanating from China vis-a-vis solar panels and battery storage.
00:40:34.400 So they've co-opted that part.
00:40:35.740 Say that again.
00:40:36.460 What are those numbers?
00:40:37.520 How big are they?
00:40:38.820 Well, the U.S. power generation market for equipment supply and upgrades was about 70 billion.
00:40:44.300 The China content of that 10 years ago was 1%.
00:40:47.060 It was nominal.
00:40:47.860 Now, it's about 70% between solar farms.
00:40:53.340 They supply 87% of the solar panels in the world.
00:40:56.560 This was my business, so I'm way involved in understanding that market.
00:41:01.300 87% of the solar panels, 86% of the lithium-ion batteries for battery storage is supplied by China.
00:41:08.140 So they've co-opted about 70% now of the electric power generation equipment supply market in the United States already in only about six years.
00:41:17.700 So they're way behind this with black pack money and with support politically and the unitedness and convergence of that party with their way of thinking about a whole variety of things,
00:41:31.280 including controls over stifling voices and censoring and the like that they're way into with the Chinese in convergence.
00:41:41.180 Yeah, and so all the heads of the Democrat Party are now got China ties strong, right?
00:41:49.400 Biden, 30 million in checks to the Biden family.
00:41:52.700 Harris, China ties.
00:41:54.500 Waltz, 30 trips.
00:41:56.420 So we're starting to see it.
00:41:58.180 Dave Waltz, why don't you give us – you got the last minute.
00:42:00.400 Tell folks how to reach you and if you want to conclude on any other China input, that would be great.
00:42:05.280 Well, I'll give you your question on the materiality of this to the economy.
00:42:08.400 Just for example, in foreign trade, we have a billion – trillion dollar trade deficit.
00:42:13.720 We export two trillion of goods and services.
00:42:15.880 Of the two trillion, 370 billion, the top four commodities are oil, gas, chemicals, and LNG are the top – three of the top four exported commodities, 370 billion a year.
00:42:28.200 And the Department of Energy under this administration has put a hold on more LNG export permits, which is going to – if they continue with this, raise the deficit, raise currency instability, raise the cost of the dollar, raise interest rates by abandoning our second largest export commodity, taking it off the table, which is LNG.
00:42:50.540 So just how material this is to the economy, it's 12 percent of the entire economy, energy.
00:42:55.600 So it's fundamentally –
00:42:56.720 How do they get you, Dave?
00:42:58.140 How do they get you before we go to break, real quick?
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00:45:27.120 Back in The War Room with great Stephen K. Bannon.
00:45:32.780 All prayers going out to Steve.
00:45:34.840 Hopefully something cracks there.
00:45:36.340 Peter Navarro gave us some promising news the other day, so hopefully that comes to bear.
00:45:41.080 And so we've got a great hero in Virginia politics.
00:45:45.120 Huge energy national chairwoman.
00:45:47.840 She knows the local, the state, the federal.
00:45:51.040 Patty Lyman, welcome to The War Room.
00:45:53.340 Great to have you on.
00:45:54.640 Why don't you just start, do a tour de force, start at the top.
00:45:58.260 All political views are my own, but I'm just interviewing Patty.
00:46:01.440 What, at the top, with the presidential race, what's the energy level looking like?
00:46:05.980 It looks to me the polls are still good, and he won in 16 when they said he was, you know, five or ten down.
00:46:11.620 That one I'm feeling pretty good about.
00:46:13.300 How are we looking on the presidential race?
00:46:16.180 Well, I want to start out and say that the energy is going to skyrocket the day that the admiral is back sitting in that chair.
00:46:24.260 And I was very, very hopeful yesterday with what Peter reported.
00:46:28.860 So love you, Steve.
00:46:30.300 We miss you.
00:46:31.320 But the team's doing a fantastic job.
00:46:34.280 Dave, I'm telling you right now, I saw a quote yesterday from my longtime friend, Father Frank Pavone, who started Priests for Life.
00:46:43.260 Addressing this issue of people picking apart this or picking apart that about whatever candidate we have running it at every level.
00:46:52.460 And he said this.
00:46:53.620 It was very powerful.
00:46:54.740 He said the House is on fire.
00:46:57.800 We have a choice between the people starting the fire or the ones who are going to put it out.
00:47:03.640 Period.
00:47:04.080 And it's a no-brainer.
00:47:06.780 I remember back in 2021 when we were working hard to win Virginia, and it was a little hard to get all the troops rallied.
00:47:14.840 And we had a major, major push starting in October.
00:47:17.840 And we said, look, we're never going to survive as a state if we get four more years of Terry McAuliffe.
00:47:23.680 That is a non-starter.
00:47:26.240 We can't do that.
00:47:27.560 So it doesn't matter anymore.
00:47:29.460 We need to stop trying to correct our candidates, improve our candidates, do whatever it is we think can make them more to our liking.
00:47:37.820 It doesn't matter.
00:47:39.220 The House is on fire.
00:47:40.800 So I will say that the enthusiasm is extremely, extremely high.
00:47:45.820 Right.
00:47:46.380 I'm hearing that some of the Senate Republican candidates are not doing that well in their states.
00:47:53.500 I don't know why.
00:47:54.620 I don't know all the ins and outs of that.
00:47:56.660 But everybody has to get out.
00:47:58.760 Of course, the big dog who is wagging the tail is President Trump.
00:48:04.540 To the extent that President Trump wins in Virginia, the down ballot will be fine.
00:48:11.160 It will absolutely be fine.
00:48:13.560 So I'm not so concerned about that.
00:48:18.020 Republicans are not really big ticket splitters.
00:48:20.980 I was listening to Jack Posobiec talk yesterday about Pennsylvania and how there's a lot of people there, some of them Democrats, that are ticket splitters.
00:48:28.760 They'll vote for their Democrat congressman but vote for the president.
00:48:33.120 But that's not really here.
00:48:34.620 Republicans, for the most part, will turn out for the entire ticket.
00:48:39.960 I want to say that what President Trump has been doing with these fireside chats has been absolutely stupendous.
00:48:51.480 I mean, I've been completely with President Trump since the end of 2015.
00:48:56.980 I've listened to every rally he's ever had.
00:48:59.800 But I am seeing a new side of our president.
00:49:04.520 It's a side that anyone and everyone can relate to.
00:49:09.180 And that's where we need to rally around.
00:49:11.440 Also, we need to put the personalities aside.
00:49:16.440 I've seen some problems with people, whether it's at the top or the bottom of the chain, people letting vendettas and petty feuds get in the way of what we're doing.
00:49:28.240 Pete Snyder, our friend, said keep the main thing the main thing.
00:49:32.440 The main thing is keeping this country free.
00:49:34.960 Hey, Patty, I want to ask you, you know, you just said, you know, the president's leading, right?
00:49:41.860 He's laid out there's great unity between the president, the RNC platform, the war room, Steve Bannon.
00:49:48.760 Our big three issues are the big three issues.
00:49:51.840 But what's missing is Mitch McConnell, the head of the Senate, I have not heard one word.
00:49:57.340 They control all the money, right?
00:49:59.180 I was in Congress.
00:50:00.580 The most conservative folks, the grassroots folks, I got zero, right?
00:50:04.600 For upholding free markets, the Constitution and the Judeo-Christian tradition.
00:50:08.560 Quite a radical, you know, agenda.
00:50:11.380 And so and the Speaker of the House, I don't know how he's doling stuff out, but I'm not hearing leadership on the messaging yet.
00:50:18.160 And so what's your shout out to these, the leaders?
00:50:21.360 Because without their megaphone, our down ballots are going to get they're going to be in stress test to the max.
00:50:27.900 They need to understand what the mission is, Dave.
00:50:31.360 And the problem that we have when these central entities suck up all the money, whether it be a PAC, whether it be some, you know, someone connected with the Senate, whatever, whether it be Kevin McCarthy.
00:50:43.540 I mean, look at all the money that he raised.
00:50:45.620 He used his money for vendettas.
00:50:48.340 I just read a story about it the other day.
00:50:50.740 He used his money for personal vendettas to get back to the people who held him accountable.
00:50:56.080 OK, we've had other situations where Republicans lost because one or two entities sucked up all the money.
00:51:03.000 And if that Republican did not mouth whatever liberal talking point the Republican PAC had that they wanted them to push on, whether it's on an economic issue or whether it's on abortion, if they didn't get on board with that, then they didn't get any money.
00:51:20.480 And Speaker Johnson needs to learn a lesson that we had to teach our prior chair at the RNC.
00:51:29.320 She was more concerned with her own comfort and with her friends getting contacts and getting power than than people winning, than pushing forward our Republican message.
00:51:41.480 Speaker Johnson, you're there to elect Republicans.
00:51:45.860 Forget who your buddies are.
00:51:48.380 Forget who your consultant friends are.
00:51:50.100 And by the way, please remove the corrupt staff that Kevin that got Kevin McCarthy to where he got and get a staff of people who are America first.
00:52:01.140 Please, please, Speaker Johnson.
00:52:04.900 Patty Lyman preaching, preaching the Old Testament.
00:52:08.660 Thanks, Patty.
00:52:09.660 We're going to hold you over the break.
00:52:11.040 Thanks for being on.
00:52:12.080 We covered the federal, the the downed ballot races.
00:52:16.680 We're going to be back.
00:52:17.640 What's the action items?
00:52:19.580 Action, action, action on the War Room.
00:52:22.600 Back with Patty Lyman after the break.
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