Bannon's War Room - Episode 3904： Reclaiming Our Elections In Battleground States

00:00:00.000 You have to vote, and one must choose the lesser of two evils.

00:00:09.620 Who is the lesser of two evils? That lady or that gentleman? I don't know. 0.93

00:00:15.060 Everyone with a conscience should think on this and do it.

00:00:17.780 That lady or that lady? I don't know. 0.64

00:00:21.200 Everyone in conscience thinks and does this.

00:00:24.900 Both of them are against life.

00:00:30.000 The one who throws out migrants and the one who kills children. 0.99

00:00:34.340 Both are against life.

00:00:39.120 You cannot decide. I can't say.

00:00:42.360 I am not American. I'm not going to vote there.

00:00:45.000 But let it be clear. Sending away migrants, not allowing them to work, not sheltering them, is a sin. It's serious.

00:00:53.780 The church doesn't allow abortion, not because it's closed-minded, but because to have an abortion means to kill.

00:01:06.240 It is murder.

00:01:08.240 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:01:16.060 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:01:21.180 You're just not going to free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:01:25.420 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:01:27.380 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:01:28.760 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:01:31.380 It's going to happen.

00:01:32.500 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:01:36.120 MAGA Media.

00:01:37.480 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:01:42.900 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:01:46.680 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:01:52.860 War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:02:02.420 Saturday, 14th of September, Anno Domini, 2024.

00:02:08.120 Harnwell here at the helm, filling in for Steve Bannon.

00:02:12.280 Before we move straight away to our first guest, Linda Sinkiewicz, this morning,

00:02:17.080 I just have to respond to something that Hashtag NotMyPope was saying there in the cold open.

00:02:25.600 For non-Catholics, or even a primer for actual Catholics,

00:02:30.580 the heart of Catholic social teaching applied to the political sphere is the discernment

00:02:37.260 to know how to pick the lesser of two evils.

00:02:44.220 And you're not allowed to pick either of those evils for the evil that's there,

00:02:50.960 but because it's the lesser of a more substantial evil.

00:02:54.620 That's according to Catholic social teaching.

00:02:56.980 I obviously don't think the America First movement, MAGA, Donald Trump,

00:03:02.160 are in any way, in any capacity, evil whatsoever, as is objectively abortion.

00:03:08.320 What he's saying there, this man who is acclaimed by the vast majority of the Catholic Church

00:03:14.620 as Pope, is that you have two candidates here, two parties.

00:03:21.100 One expels illegal third world invaders. 1.00

00:03:26.140 The other party radically supports abortion.

00:03:29.140 And he's suggesting, and believe me, folks, I do know something about the Catholic Church

00:03:34.960 and its teaching.

00:03:37.140 These are not on the same level.

00:03:40.400 But he's trying to suggest that they're relative.

00:03:43.480 And then therefore it's up to the individual Catholic in good faith to pick the lesser of two evils.

00:03:48.520 What he's done is, and that is basically an outright lie,

00:03:53.860 the way he's presented the political situation for America.

00:03:57.600 Let that stand, folks.

00:03:59.800 Just let that stand.

00:04:00.820 Let that argument stand on its own merits.

00:04:03.760 And assume that he has synthesized the situation correctly.

00:04:08.420 I have, in front of me, an article from Reuters.

00:04:14.240 But look, you can go to their listening in Newsweek,

00:04:17.540 Centre for Immigration Studies, Cato had something.

00:04:21.720 Migrationpolicy.org also had something.

00:04:24.260 This is that the Biden administration was now deporting more people than Trump.

00:04:31.040 I don't believe it.

00:04:32.440 But that was the official spin on behalf of the regime to gaslight Americans.

00:04:38.420 That is the official position.

00:04:40.280 If that is the official position, right, that the Democrats are deporting more,

00:04:46.320 then even on the terms that this fraudulent imposter, dressed in white, pretending to be a pope,

00:04:54.260 even on the terms that he has outlined, if you have two parties,

00:04:58.400 both of which are deporting third world illegal invaders, 0.91

00:05:03.500 and one of which, in addition to deporting, is also promoting abortion,

00:05:09.380 then the discernment of taking the lesser of two evils is clear.

00:05:16.500 It is absolutely clear that if that is the situation,

00:05:20.200 then it is the Republican Party, the GOP, which is the lesser of two evils.

00:05:23.860 I defy any Catholic bishop who is listening to this show,

00:05:28.080 any cardinal from anywhere in the world to come onto this show

00:05:32.300 and tell me that I have interpreted that erroneously.

00:05:35.900 I challenge, I throw down, right, I defy any fake hiring bishop

00:05:43.260 who puts themselves forward as a Catholic hierarchy

00:05:49.220 to come on this show and tell me that I have just expanded that in the way.

00:05:52.380 According to the way, hashtag not my pope himself has just defined the issue,

00:05:59.280 the lesser of two evils would be the Republican Party,

00:06:01.640 because, as I say, the Biden regime was boasting,

00:06:06.580 at least up until the 8th of July of last year,

00:06:09.420 of having deported or deporting, present tense,

00:06:12.820 more people than the previous Trump administration.

00:06:16.840 Okay.

00:06:18.340 Sorry for that brief exposition, which took even me somewhat by surprise.

00:06:23.000 We have a short two-minute video clip now on illegals voting,

00:06:27.780 and then we'll go straight in to the first guest.

00:06:29.460 I just want to underline your point that they are willing to shut down the government

00:06:35.820 in service of a problem that does not exist.

00:06:40.120 This from the Brennan Center.

00:06:42.060 Since 1996, there has been a law barring non-citizens from voting in federal elections.

00:06:47.000 Violators face potential jail time and deportation.

00:06:50.440 This is the number I want everyone to focus on.

00:06:52.300 85 cases of alleged non-citizen voting from 2002 to 2023.

00:07:00.860 So you have a 21-year span in which perhaps there have been 85 cases of this.

00:07:06.600 This is not a real problem.

00:07:08.660 Welcome back.

00:07:10.300 Linda Sinkowitz, good morning.

00:07:12.040 You always have some great news for us whenever you come on the show,

00:07:14.980 and I believe you have some today.

00:07:16.420 Tell us, we have, the RNC has a victory.

00:07:20.580 It's clocked up a legal victory against Tim Wolfe, Minnesota.

00:07:24.560 What's happened here?

00:07:26.000 What's the judgment?

00:07:27.880 Well, it took a little bit of time for them to get it through,

00:07:30.740 but in Minnesota, WALTS had allowed everyone to get driver's license,

00:07:36.780 irregardless whether you are a U.S. citizen or not,

00:07:39.940 but it also automatically registered them to vote, which is illegal.

00:07:45.660 And they have now forced them to remove, or at least put on the inactive list,

00:07:51.980 well over 1,000 that they have found today.

00:07:55.500 And we know there's going to be more.

00:07:57.400 And I just want to comment on that previous clip.

00:08:00.280 The fact that only 85, you know, illegals voted in U.S. elections,

00:08:06.020 that's because people had not been really looking at this.

00:08:09.560 And now, over the last few years,

00:08:12.440 they don't even want to look at people who had violated election law.

00:08:17.120 So that clip in the beginning is just because of that number

00:08:21.320 does not mean that's all that there is for that.

00:08:25.200 But kudos to Minnesota on what they've done,

00:08:28.580 not only the RNC, but the Minnesota GOP.

00:08:32.700 And one of the things, as I said, we are a nonpartisan nonprofit.

00:08:38.260 And if the DNC would actually send me information on what they are doing

00:08:42.680 to help election integrity, I'd be more than happy to talk about it.

00:08:47.020 But it seems I have not gotten anything.

00:08:49.080 And the only things we're seeing are now are the victories

00:08:52.380 of the RNC upholding our elections here in the United States.

00:08:58.480 Linda, what's happening in North Carolina regarding ID,

00:09:06.080 specifically digital ID and students?

00:09:09.460 You know, one of the things that absolutely amazes me

00:09:11.920 is that people who know their jobs

00:09:13.720 and they should know the laws around their jobs

00:09:16.200 are constantly violating the state statutes within each state.

00:09:21.640 So what North Carolina has done is they started allowing college student ID numbers

00:09:28.920 to be able to be used for voter ID, which is just ridiculous.

00:09:36.120 Everyone has their voter ID number and it should stay with that. 0.97

00:09:40.800 But like I said, they're busy trying to circumvent the law again.

00:09:44.740 Linda, just tell me what that means, because presumably any student in the United States

00:09:51.300 has a student pass to get into their respective university,

00:09:56.420 the halls of accommodation and what have you to get to their lessons.

00:10:00.540 Presumably, non-American students have exactly the same student ID as American students.

00:10:07.980 So I figure, I guess, that it won't show on the student ID the citizenship, right?

00:10:16.060 So isn't that just like the most overt, in-your-face way of giving ID,

00:10:24.100 allowing to vote people, giving the ability to vote people

00:10:30.120 who quite clearly have no actual other ID or claim to be able to do so?

00:10:35.860 So what I mean to say that is if you're an international student studying in the United States,

00:10:39.920 you take your student card and say, I want to be able to vote with this in North Carolina.

00:10:48.400 And they'll say, yes, please go ahead.

00:10:50.580 There's your voting booth over there.

00:10:52.420 On the basis of a student ID card, which doesn't even indicate the student's nationality.

00:10:59.160 Well, I can even go one step further. 0.95

00:11:01.360 That's more ridiculous. 0.91

00:11:02.380 And that's here in the state of Connecticut. 0.80

00:11:03.840 All they need is college students to register is a letter from the college itself.

00:11:11.160 They don't even have to show ID.

00:11:13.100 Even if they live in Oklahoma and they're asked, well, are you registered there?

00:11:19.080 They then have to make a phone call to see on election day whether they're registered there or not.

00:11:24.640 But they still allow them to vote.

00:11:26.320 And like I said, in Connecticut, for the college students, it is just a letter from the university. 0.67

00:11:31.660 So, you know, it's it's ridiculous on what's going on.

00:11:35.540 Say they tell me that again. 0.80

00:11:37.820 Tell me that again.

00:11:39.160 What do they need in Connecticut?

00:11:41.820 Just a letter from the university like Wesleyan University here in Middletown, Connecticut.

00:11:47.840 They would get a letter from the university that they would bring when they registered to vote.

00:11:53.760 That's it.

00:11:54.960 But what is the letter required to say?

00:11:58.720 That they are a student.

00:12:00.880 That's it.

00:12:02.220 So it's going to be a letter on university letterhead paper.

00:12:05.240 No, not even a student ID card, right?

00:12:08.500 Not even a student.

00:12:09.640 Just a letter affirming that a name and the name of the letter of which there's no proof that the person presenting that letter is the person contained in the letter, presumably.

00:12:21.580 Correct.

00:12:22.180 Correct.

00:12:22.700 Correct.

00:12:23.180 OK.

00:12:24.200 OK.

00:12:25.780 You're right. 0.95

00:12:26.800 When you said you had something even more ridiculous, I thought, well, let's see. 0.96

00:12:32.940 And you have delivered.

00:12:35.160 We have, after the break, Marley Hornick coming on, who said, and I'm going to confront her with this, because I remember when she was last on the show, she said, and this is levelatory to me, but I'll need to clarify it with her after the break.

00:12:47.580 She said something along the lines that it is the obligation, the legal obligation on the state to prove, to demonstrate that those voting have the eligibility to do so.

00:13:00.540 I'm going to run what you said, Pastor, because I can see huge legal challenges on this, because they're obviously not fulfilling their own state and federal statutory obligations.

00:13:17.240 So tell me briefly, we've got like a minute before the break, or perhaps we might indeed need to hold you over the break.

00:13:24.840 What are you guys doing to oppose North Carolina and Connecticut on these maneuvers?

00:13:33.060 Well, we're not actually opposing them because we're not into the litigation process, but the RNC in North Carolina, again, is stepping forward with that fight as far as they have a lawsuit.

00:13:48.140 This is their fourth lawsuit against North Carolina.

00:13:52.100 Us, we're just getting the word out there.

00:13:54.280 We're working on a number of other things here in Connecticut that we should have together another week or so, that if you think you are astonished at the lack of responsibility and making sure that elections are absolutely only U.S. citizens and only people that live in the states, you're going to be surprised what we found out.

00:14:14.780 So we also are having, as we had before, a number of people requesting our double-registered, double-voter data.

00:14:23.700 We've got the new data ready, and it's been going out.

00:14:27.400 We've been getting it to thousands of people.

00:14:29.340 We're now in 49 states.

00:14:30.880 This will help you with either your challenges, even on Election Day, or know the people that should have been removed.

00:14:37.900 So you just go to our website, fightvoterfraud.org.

00:14:41.420 We've had thousands of people sending letters to the Secretary of State when we promoted a few weeks ago about the Nevada Secretary of State and how to find the illegals.

00:14:53.740 So we're really happy with that.

00:14:56.220 Linda, hold on. 1.00

00:14:57.220 We'll be back after this quick break in two minutes.

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00:16:11.520 War Room.

00:16:12.540 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:16:20.800 Welcome back to the War Room.

00:16:22.220 Linda Sinkowitz, two other pieces of news that you're bringing to the posse's attention this morning.

00:16:31.980 Some mixed use from New Hampshire and some better news in Pennsylvania.

00:16:36.420 Okay, so in New Hampshire, Governor Sununu has signed into law a bill that would require people to be not only U.S. citizens, but they would have to show their ID or a passport.

00:16:52.180 And it also has to do with the fact that there will be no exceptions at all, which is phenomenal.

00:17:00.180 So there's not going to be provisional ballots how they've had them before, you know, that you bring ID later and everybody always counts those anyway.

00:17:08.060 So they have eliminated that problem.

00:17:10.320 Unfortunately, though, it does not go into effect until after the November election, so it will be future elections.

00:17:19.220 But I'll tell you, it's a great step in the right direction.

00:17:22.980 What's the reason for that?

00:17:23.960 Why is it coming into act after November the 5th and not before?

00:17:29.140 Is it simply a case that they don't have the time to prepare themselves to check this?

00:17:35.800 Correct.

00:17:36.100 Or is there anything more sinister?

00:17:37.160 I don't think there's anything more sinister because sometimes laws don't go into effect for several months.

00:17:44.540 I just think it's great the fact that it was actually signed.

00:17:48.900 So in the future, you know, we'll know and people will know that New Hampshire is one of the ones on board that actually respects our election integrity.

00:17:58.340 Yes, fantastic result, a model for all of the states in the union.

00:18:02.360 And over in Pennsylvania.

00:18:03.780 Okay, so Pennsylvania has, with their mail-in ballots, I guess I've never seen one myself, but you have to put the date on the envelope that comes in.

00:18:18.520 Well, the Democrats had brought forward the fact that it was just too much for people to be able to comprehend on how to put a date and that it would be a problem for people.

00:18:29.280 And that their absentee ballots would get kicked out.

00:18:32.540 So the lower court said, oh, yes, you're right.

00:18:35.380 You don't, you know, it's too much for people to put a date on this.

00:18:39.420 And it was brought to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.

00:18:42.180 And the Supreme Court said, no, no, they need to put the date on there to make sure it complies with state statutes.

00:18:50.580 So, again, that was another win for Pennsylvania trying to ensure election integrity.

00:18:56.620 Even though it's one small step, I think it's fantastic.

00:19:02.180 It is.

00:19:02.920 It is a great result.

00:19:04.440 Linda, that's fantastic, this update.

00:19:07.840 Some good news, some mixed news, and some less positive news today, but on the whole, very positive.

00:19:19.860 Once again, you were mentioning where people could go to get your briefing.

00:19:24.620 What was your website again?

00:19:26.820 It's fightvoterfraud.org.

00:19:31.580 You can go there.

00:19:33.100 You can download to get our free data.

00:19:35.380 I'm actually teaching people what they need to know with the data that we're sending.

00:19:40.720 That's what's up on our website right now on the 26th of September.

00:19:44.620 We're going to have a 15-minute webinar to review a number of things.

00:19:48.620 So you can do that.

00:19:50.040 You can go to our info to find out how you can help on as far as even within your own community on what you can actually do.

00:20:00.340 Like I said, we have a number of other things coming up next week that we're going to be excited to talk about.

00:20:05.020 That's also going to be able to help get illegals and non-citizens off the voter rolls, which we need to do. 1.00

00:20:13.760 We don't vote in France.

00:20:15.540 We don't vote in England.

00:20:17.180 And only U.S. citizens should vote in the United States.

00:20:20.460 By the way, Linda, I saw something on YouTube yesterday, some publicity there, that it was advertising, and I used the scare quotes, Americans abroad to vote in the forthcoming election register to make sure that they register to vote in the forthcoming election.

00:20:41.960 Obviously, they were stressing that this program is for Americans who are overseas and who need to vote.

00:20:49.240 But given, as you've been recounting this morning, the pretty low threshold or non-existent threshold necessary to demonstrate that, one wonders – I've not seen this kind of –

00:21:00.740 I've obviously – my YouTube account is obviously registered in Italy.

00:21:05.340 So when they're throwing that advert out in this territory, they know what they're doing, and I'm sure they're doing it elsewhere.

00:21:12.640 But you're doing sterling work.

00:21:14.300 Thanks very much, Linda Sinkowitz.

00:21:15.700 I look forward to catching up with you again on the show soon.

00:21:19.400 God bless.

00:21:20.700 God bless you.

00:21:21.440 Thank you.

00:21:21.940 Thanks, Linda.

00:21:24.200 Marley Hornick, you heard what we were saying just now.

00:21:28.780 Could you remind me, because I remember this revelatory thing that you laid out for the war in Posse a few weeks ago.

00:21:34.980 What is the requirement on the state to verify in terms of eligibility here?

00:21:43.760 Right.

00:21:44.020 The states have an ironclad responsibility under the second section of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution to both prevent any qualified eligible citizen voter from having their vote denied, right?

00:21:59.660 Everyone who is allowed to vote has to be able to vote, and they have to prevent any invalid registrant from casting an invalid vote procured through corruption.

00:22:11.340 This is dilution of the vote.

00:22:12.880 The states have to equally protect against denial of the vote and dilution of the vote.

00:22:18.680 And the only way to protect against dilution of the vote is for the state to prevent themselves from giving anyone a ballot who doesn't meet the qualification and eligibility requirements of state, federal, and constitutional law.

00:22:34.820 So what the question is then is, can you prove that the state has done that?

00:22:39.160 And that is exactly what the United Sovereign Americans' mandamus lawsuits already filed in nine U.S. states covering 173 electoral college votes have prepositioned as an argument at law, is that the states have already done this.

00:22:57.440 In 20 states, United Sovereign Americans found 29 million facially invalid registration records.

00:23:05.540 This has nothing to do with citizenship.

00:23:07.620 These are people named asterisk who are registered to vote equally to you.

00:23:12.920 That's not an illegal vote.

00:23:14.880 I mean, that's not illegal voter.

00:23:16.500 You see what I'm saying?

00:23:17.280 There's multiple ways to be illegal in the voter rolls.

00:23:21.880 And out of those 29 million registrants, the states allowed 10 million of them to cast votes.

00:23:29.520 They counted these votes equally to qualified eligible citizen voters' votes, which is a deprivation of rights acting under color of law.

00:23:39.220 Our lawsuits clearly state this civil rights abridgment, this fundamental civil rights abridgment of the founding principle of United States of America, representative government, already happened in 2022.

00:23:55.140 It's not a question of law.

00:23:57.380 It already took place because here's the law and here's the state's records and boom, they did it.

00:24:03.160 Now, what we're arguing is all of our plaintiffs, many of whom have been spending the last, you know, two to four years of their lives doing nothing other than researching these issues and bringing them to the attention of the states, they haven't been able to get the states to remedy the problem.

00:24:19.760 The states are recalcitrant.

00:24:21.380 They refuse.

00:24:22.580 So what we have prepositioned is that if the states, so the mandamus orders the state to follow the law in 2024, because we have 51 days left.

00:24:32.420 We can't start talking about what a strategy would be.

00:24:35.960 We have to have the strategy ready.

00:24:37.780 And that's what United Sovereign Americans has.

00:24:40.500 We have prepositions standing to challenge these elections as a matter of law under civil rights before they get certified.

00:24:51.300 It's not just that the voter rolls have to be accurate.

00:24:53.820 It's that the votes counted have to come only from eligible citizen voters,

00:24:58.180 that the number of votes counted has to equal the number of voters who voted,

00:25:02.720 and that the reliability standards set by Congress with the maximum error rate of 0.0008% in counting ballots is upheld.

00:25:14.740 And I know you probably have a question, but I want to make sure we talk about what just happened in Michigan and Montana

00:25:20.320 and how the war room posse is going to help United Sovereign Americans take this to the mat in November.

00:25:28.460 Marley, hold on. 0.89

00:25:29.620 I do have questions.

00:25:30.980 When you come back after the break, we're going to bring in Bruce Caster to break down these revelations of what you've just been saying.

00:25:38.520 Hold on, posse.

00:25:39.280 We'll be back in two minutes.

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00:29:16.740 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:29:19.540 Welcome back.

00:29:26.980 So we're just talking with Marley Hornick from United Soviet Americans.

00:29:31.500 We're going to bring in now Bruce Castor, a lawyer who was actually involved in representing President Trump in his second impeachment.

00:29:40.660 Good morning.

00:29:43.380 Before we go to Bruce and hear about his challenges, Marley, could you just repeat what you were saying before the break about these two legal actions that you were involved with in Michigan and Montana?

00:29:57.600 Well, just to clarify, we're involved in legal actions under Bruce's representation.

00:30:05.160 He's our litigation manager for United Sovereign Americans.

00:30:07.960 We filed lawsuits in Maryland, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, Texas, Michigan, North Carolina, Georgia, and Colorado.

00:30:17.740 What I was going to bring up is issues from the primary elections in Michigan and Montana that United Sovereign Americans analysts have already returned data for indicating that the problems are continuing and that the need for permanent restraining orders is very likely to be real during the administrative process.

00:30:37.580 And Bruce can talk about how we've prepositioned that.

00:30:40.480 He's the genius.

00:30:42.880 Let's go straight to the genius.

00:30:47.740 Well, the lawsuits have the thread that runs through all of them, that there are minimum standards that Congress has put into place that require that elections meet a certain threshold before they can be certified.

00:31:07.700 So the idea is that anything by man is going to have the possibility of being imperfect.

00:31:16.120 So the question is, how do we make it as close to perfect as possible so that you can have confidence in the outcome of the election, that the results are worthy of certification and of belief?

00:31:27.400 And it turns out that Congress has passed a couple of laws that give us a formula for deciding what that threshold is.

00:31:36.680 And the United Sovereign Americans people in their analysis have demonstrated, to my satisfaction anyway, that the states in which we filed lawsuits did not meet those threshold requirements in the 2022 federal election, which was the last federal election.

00:31:53.500 And despite being told of these problems in the interim, have done nothing to fix them, so that in 2024, 2026, et cetera, the federal elections will continue to have the same problems, presumably, and that the federal court needs to step in and tell those government officials that are required to enforce the law to do their jobs,

00:32:17.040 starting with the federal elections, starting with the federal elections, who is supposed to see that congressional mandates are carried out, and then those state officials whose job it is under the U.S. Constitution to act as quasi-federal officials in supervising federal elections to do their jobs.

00:32:34.460 And that's what a mandamus is.

00:32:36.460 It's a mechanism for requiring public officials who are supposed to do their jobs to do it when they are refusing to.

00:32:46.460 If they're refusing to do the jobs that they're legally obliged to do, are they impeachable at the state level?

00:32:57.900 Well, sure, they would be, but that's an entirely different process than what we're

00:33:04.380 talking about here.

00:33:06.380 I mean, the concept of mandamus is you target a specific duty that a government official is required to perform, a ministerial duty.

00:33:18.380 So we can't ask the federal court to tell the public officials how to go about doing their duties.

00:33:24.380 We can just ask the federal court to order the public official to do it.

00:33:28.380 And in this instance, we have statistical proof that in 2022, the elections were not done in accordance with congressional mandates.

00:33:38.380 And the federal and state officials responsible for making sure that those mandates are carried out haven't done anything in order to repair the issues so that in 2024 and subsequent federal elections, they would be done correctly.

00:33:57.380 So I'm not asking the federal judge to order the attorney general and the secretaries of states of individual states how to do their jobs.

00:34:07.380 I'm just ordering them to to make them do it.

00:34:10.380 And that's the difference between a mandamus action and an injunction where an injunction is requiring public officials to do a particular thing here.

00:34:21.380 We just want them to do something.

00:34:23.380 And so far, they've done nothing.

00:34:25.380 And the end result of doing nothing then the end result of doing nothing is appears to be a civil rights violation to all eligible citizen voters because the main thing the states failed to do is prevent against clear dilution of the vote when their error rates are wildly in excess of the maximum error Congress allows for.

00:34:50.380 So I think I've understood the difference between an injunction and a mandamus action.

00:35:01.380 What are the consequences?

00:35:06.380 So Bruce Cassidy, just to put it in your in terms of your own definition, an injunction is is illegal getting a court order effectively constraining a public official to do a certain function.

00:35:18.380 And among mandamus order, presumably, then it's just that they do something to use your own definition.

00:35:26.380 What are the consequences of them not doing it?

00:35:29.380 I'm not doing something.

00:35:32.380 Well, to pick up on what Marley said, the the point of all this is that every person who votes expects their vote to be counted the same power as every other person who votes.

00:35:43.380 So if there are a whole lot of votes that should not have been counted, it dilutes the value of the individuals who followed the rules and voted correctly and had the machines count their vote correctly and had the tabulators properly index their their vote.

00:36:00.380 So it reduces the power of any individual in the vote that they cast, because if you have 150 people voting and 50 of them aren't supposed to have been able to vote, your vote now counts a lot less than if it was 100 out of 100, because you're one out of 150 when you should have been one out of 100.

00:36:24.380 And that's the that's the main deleterious effect that comes out of failing to follow the rules.

00:36:31.380 So the upshot of all this is I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:36:35.380 No, no, no, please, please.

00:36:36.380 No, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

00:36:38.380 The upshot of all this is is is is there there is a specific series of things that these public officials are supposed to do.

00:36:51.380 I'm looking at this in a linear fashion.

00:36:54.380 I'm asking the federal judges in the states in which we filed to to ascertain that we are right, that the that there were these violations of congressional mandates and order the attorney general of the United States and the relevant state officials to do their jobs and make sure that these errors don't occur in future federal elections.

00:37:18.380 Now, beyond that, anybody who has been damaged as a result of having their vote count less, I suggest, have a civil rights cause of action against anybody who failed to do their duty and are damaged in respect of having not been able to participate in the electoral process at the same level as they were supposed to have been able to do.

00:37:44.380 And they could have causes of action, civil causes of action, and in some cases even criminal causes of action against the public officials that fail to do their duty upon notice.

00:37:54.380 upon notice.

00:37:55.380 But that's a that's a problem for further down the road.

00:37:59.380 The first step is to convince federal judges that the congressional mandates were not complied with.

00:38:04.380 Can I just go back a little bit here?

00:38:11.380 I'm trying to get my head around some of these, to me, new legal concepts.

00:38:17.380 What is it?

00:38:18.380 And I'll repeat the question.

00:38:20.380 What is the consequence for a public official then?

00:38:23.380 If you win, if you win before the federal court with these mandamus actions, what is the consequence?

00:38:33.380 What would be the consequence if the receiver of this court order just ignores it?

00:38:40.380 What would that would be the consequences then?

00:38:44.380 Well, if the court ordered the public officials to do what we're asking and then they refuse to do it, there would be fines associated with that.

00:38:53.380 And and upon sufficient failure to comply would be jail terms.

00:39:00.380 But those things don't happen.

00:39:03.380 I'm old enough to remember when federal judges were ordering state officials to engage in desegregation and carry out congressional mandates involving civil rights in schools.

00:39:17.380 And what happens is federal judges then take over the process and demand constant updates and reports and appoint officials to monitor that the state officials are carrying out the congressional mandates as as ordered by the federal judge.

00:39:35.380 And, you know, if the if they're not doing it or the state officials not doing it quickly enough where the United States Attorney General is not enforcing the court's order, then those officials can be brought before the court and and sanctioned in in usually financial ways.

00:39:54.380 But in extreme cases can be sanctioned in in civil contempt proceedings to put them in prison until they will comply.

00:40:04.380 But those things historically haven't happened.

00:40:06.380 And it's, you know, an entire generation, probably two generations of people don't remember when federal courts did these sorts of things, when they saw massive ignoring of congressional mandates by the states.

00:40:19.380 And the only mechanism to make states do what Congress is requiring is to get federal judges to step in and order that the that the congressional mandates be followed.

00:40:34.380 And that's what we're trying to do.

00:40:35.380 And that's what we're trying to do.

00:40:36.380 But ultimately, what I envision happening is the judge will order a a procedure where whereby individual states are monitored by court appointed officials and report back to the court on progress in implementing the court's findings.

00:40:54.800 And in the short term, I envision the court requiring the use of provisional ballots that would then be counted when there was more time after the election, but pre-certification and ascertain each one whether they were properly cast.

00:41:11.940 This is going to be a very difficult thing, but it isn't as though we haven't done this in history.

00:41:16.940 I mean, it has happened plenty of times where Congress has imposed its will on the states and the states have refused to follow congressional requirements.

00:41:25.940 I wish I wish I wish we had a whole hour to break this down because it's so important.

00:41:32.940 But thank you for the exposition on what you're doing.

00:41:36.940 Molly, just quickly in the 30 seconds, where can folks go to get involved and participate more in this in what you're doing?

00:41:45.940 How can they support you?

00:41:47.940 Sure, unite for freedom.com is where you can sign up to get involved.

00:41:53.940 That's where you can learn about how you're going to help us gather real time evidence starting at early voting and through the administrative process.

00:42:00.940 Because if we can demonstrate already on a material basis in real time that the states have failed to follow a lawful process in the counting of votes,

00:42:12.940 that will significantly improve our chances at blocking what would be certification on a basis of perjury of a sham process.

00:42:21.940 The citizens of America have to protect our right to vote when we see all across the country, the election officials, state officials, they're going to stand down on this.

00:42:32.940 But we cannot stand down because there's too much on the line.

00:42:36.940 We have a beautiful history here. We've inherited a wonderful opportunity to live in liberty and perpetuity and to protect that for our children and our children's children.

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00:42:51.940 No, that's that's absolutely incredible.

00:42:55.940 Marley Hornick, Bruce Custer.

00:42:57.940 I'm very, very grateful for you for you joining us on the show.

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00:45:20.940 Mortgage rates, which have fallen to the lowest level since February of 2023.

00:45:25.940 What does this mean for the housing market?

00:45:28.940 It's a good news, but not amazing news.

00:45:31.940 We're down about 6.2%, which, by the way, is the lowest since 2023.

00:45:36.940 But, you know, one of the problems, and we've talked about it before on this program, is you have this lock in effect.

00:45:43.940 So many people who got 30 year mortgages in 2018, 19, 20, 21, and perhaps even before that, you know, at rates that were, you know, 3%, 3.5%.

00:45:55.940 And so the monthly cost of selling your home and moving is still so much higher.

00:46:02.940 And so you have this mobility problem, physical mobility problem, but it's also impacted, by the way, the labor market.

00:46:08.940 Because people are less willing to say, you know what, I'm going to go take a job in another state because I'm going to have to sell my home, and then I'm going to have to buy a new home.

00:46:15.940 And even though the new home may cost the same as the old home, my monthly cost is going to be that much higher.

00:46:20.940 So it's good news that rates are coming down, there's no question.

00:46:23.940 But we are still so far from where we were two and three and four years ago that I think it's going to be very hard to, quote unquote, feel that effect, at least in the immediate term. 0.67

00:46:33.940 So it seems to me that MSNBC are struggling to put their lipstick on a pig there. 0.97

00:46:43.940 Sophia George, you study quite attentively all movements in the housing market.

00:46:50.940 And both MSNBC and Axios are going big on the fact that the 30-year fixed mortgage rate is down to the lowest point since early 2023.

00:47:05.940 The reason I suggest that they're trying to put lipstick on a pig here is they're entirely forgetting proceeding basically 15 years.

00:47:14.940 That's just being airbrushed away. And hopefully, I think the strategy is hit people over the head so much talking about joy that they'll completely forget that that's the case, that the figures, that the housing rate, the 30-year average, had actually gone down, been going down, trending downwards for 15 years beforehand.

00:47:37.940 What's your reading on this? And then I want to know specifically about what's going on because you've been studying this to do with the consumer price index in the battleground states.

00:47:48.940 This is, you know, this is the reality, the economic reality that I think the Democratic Party mainstream media complex really don't want folk thinking about.

00:47:59.940 Yes, absolutely. So what we've been seeing is that 62% of current homeowners have mortgage rates that are less than 4%.

00:48:10.260 And 86% of these homeowners have rates that are less than 6%.

00:48:15.480 So this lock-in effect that they were referring to is real.

00:48:19.780 We have an inventory problem in the country in regards to housing.

00:48:24.040 There's not enough houses out there for the demand.

00:48:26.500 The affordability has dropped off, but it has not dropped, the amount of demand has not dropped off at the same rate as we are seeing the inventory.

00:48:36.840 During the Trump administration from 2017 to 2021, interest rates actually decreased by 32%, from 4.1% to 2.8%.

00:48:48.640 From 2021 to date, we have seen the rates increase from 2.8% up to 7%.

00:48:55.600 So that is really the key figure here in our analysis of these rates.

00:49:01.540 Sophia, let me just – we've got to wheel back and repeat those figures.

00:49:05.700 Because they're doing cartwheels on MSNBC, talking about 6.2%, as if this is a great achievement for the Biden regime.

00:49:16.120 What was that figure you said, just mentioned, the lowest point under Donald Trump?

00:49:23.340 2.8%?

00:49:24.780 Yes, Freddie Mac was reporting that Trump actually reduced the interest rates during his administration from 4.1% to 2.8%.

00:49:32.060 Okay, so that's been airbrushed.

00:49:36.240 That's down the memory hole.

00:49:39.820 As I think it was at Morning Mika, I think, in her segment, was doing cartwheels at 6.2%. 1.00

00:49:47.600 That's an interesting two figures for people to compare and contrast.

00:49:53.120 That's what, folks, that's what you get – that's the choice you have.

00:50:00.720 You have mean tweets and 2.8% 30-year fixed mortgage, or the adults in the room and normalcy at 6.2%.

00:50:12.980 And that's how you're going to feel that in your pocketbook.

00:50:20.200 And I also just want to add – I also just want to add that even that speculation of reducing the mortgage rate by 0.25%,

00:50:28.200 it may actually cause home prices to go up because it's not going to be enough to have these homeowners out there come out of that lock-in effect.

00:50:38.080 It may be just enough to get a few more buyers out there looking for homes.

00:50:42.520 So all that's going to do is increase the demand and potentially increase prices.

00:50:47.400 I think the attempt, my reading on this, is that they're desperate for the Fed to lower rates,

00:50:55.020 to give a sugar rush to the economy or to the consumer,

00:50:58.480 so that they feel desperately in the remaining time before November that they still – that they're doing well financially.

00:51:05.660 And hopefully they'll forget the preceding four years.

00:51:10.320 Look, we're going to have to go into a break in just a couple of moments.

00:51:13.940 Can you just say something in 30 seconds?

00:51:15.840 Start off.

00:51:16.320 Tell me, what have you noticed in the battleground states?

00:51:19.660 And then we'll pick up on it again in a couple of minutes.

00:51:22.540 Sure.

00:51:23.320 So in the battleground states of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Georgia, and Arizona,

00:51:28.860 we've seen home prices surging, just like we've seen throughout the rest of the country,

00:51:33.420 particularly in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

00:51:35.320 We've seen the home prices surge by 30 percent.

00:51:39.040 Michigan, Nevada, surge by 30 percent as well.

00:51:42.300 And Georgia and Arizona, over 40 percent.

00:51:45.020 In Pennsylvania in particular, we have a low-income problem with the rental affordability.

00:51:51.840 There are – for every 100 low-income renters, there's only 38 available units in Pennsylvania,

00:51:59.200 and that's expected to be decreased by 35 percent projected over the next 10 years.

00:52:03.680 So definitely a shortage there in Pennsylvania.

00:52:06.760 Wisconsin and Michigan are showing decreased affordability over the last year of 11.3 percent.

00:52:14.220 Yes.

00:52:14.700 Sophia, hold on.

00:52:15.880 We'll pick this up up for a few minutes.

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Bannon's War Room - September 14, 2024

Episode 3904： Reclaiming Our Elections In Battleground States

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