Bannon's War Room - Episode 3935： The Independent Spirit Of MAGA Will Bring Victory In November

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.320 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.520 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:16.820 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:18.760 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.180 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:21.920 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:22.840 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.120 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.520 MAGA Media.

00:00:28.420 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.300 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.060 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.360 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:00:47.660 Friday, 27th of September, Anno Domini, 2024.

00:00:59.340 Harnwell here, sitting in for Steve Bannon.

00:01:02.760 Good morning.

00:01:04.820 A lot to get through today, and we've made it to the end of the week, Friday.

00:01:09.700 Let's start with Marley Hornick, United Sovereign Americans.

00:01:13.480 Marley, good morning to you.

00:01:14.520 It strikes me that one of the big issues with the 2020 election and a lot of the fallout to do with the election integrity issues,

00:01:22.300 and we all saw the social media, the Twitter, the then-Twitter, all the things that people were sort of citizen journalists were seeing,

00:01:31.960 were videoing and filming.

00:01:32.900 But the problem was that no one really knew what to do with the information that they had.

00:01:38.300 And there was a bit of chaos for that reason.

00:01:40.120 One of the reasons I think that it took so long to file so many of these lawsuits state by state.

00:01:47.200 And I have to tip my hat to you here, because every time you come on the show, you've done something which, as far as I'm concerned, is absolute genius.

00:01:54.560 And you've done it yet again.

00:01:56.120 You've taken the official election misconduct report and did a simplified process so that anybody, any American who goes to a polling station and sees something that isn't quite right,

00:02:08.680 they now have in their hand, under their very fingertips, they now have the means to catalogue this and to report it.

00:02:16.780 Tell us a bit about this, would you, Marley, and good morning to you.

00:02:22.020 Good morning, Ben.

00:02:23.180 You're exactly right on target with this.

00:02:25.820 As someone who's been working in this sphere for years now, I have a long wish that people would not just post their concerns or their negative experiences,

00:02:36.620 their denial of the vote, whatever they experienced on Facebook.

00:02:40.620 That is not an official reporting process, and no election official or attorney general is required to investigate a Facebook post.

00:02:49.620 So what we have to do, if we really mean to have free and fair and honestly counted elections,

00:02:56.300 where denial of the vote is viewed as an equal harm to dilution of the vote,

00:03:02.740 we have to learn how to do this right.

00:03:05.860 So the election misconduct reporting process that United Sovereign Americans has just launched is exactly what you said.

00:03:12.840 It is a tool.

00:03:14.380 We've done the heavy lifting.

00:03:16.300 All you have to do is go to uniteforfreedom.com, hit the 2024 election complaint button,

00:03:23.740 fill in your experience there, and you're going to sign it as a sworn statement.

00:03:28.920 It's not going to be notarized.

00:03:30.340 You can just sign it as a sworn statement because the Voting Rights Act says that no voter should have to be compelled to notarize a document in order to uphold their right to vote.

00:03:42.720 So we're just going to sign these as complaints, and we're going to give you the information right there, the email addresses or the physical mail addresses.

00:03:50.320 You're going to download that complaint and send it to the people who have to investigate.

00:03:53.980 Firstly, first of all, that puts them all on notice that problems took place.

00:03:58.080 Sorry, go ahead, Ben.

00:03:59.620 Marley, just in terms of the technicalities of this, so you've prepared the simplified report pro forma that people need to fill in.

00:04:08.980 Do they send that to you or do they send it to the authorities?

00:04:13.680 How do you accompany people along the process and make sure, obviously breathing down the neck of the various election officials, how do you ensure that that action is dealt with?

00:04:25.820 How are you involved in this?

00:04:27.020 Once people have downloaded off your site, the form, what happens next in terms of technicalities?

00:04:33.180 Sure.

00:04:33.660 So you're going to fill in the form on our site, and when you hit send, there's two things are going to happen.

00:04:41.360 An email is going to be sent to you.

00:04:44.500 Now, we tried to make this automated end-to-end, but unfortunately, the risk of being viewed as a spammer and your critical information not reaching your officials was too great for us to overcome as a citizen organization.

00:04:58.820 So we're going to email you that report.

00:05:01.120 When you hit enter, one copy is going to get stored with United Sovereign Americans.

00:05:05.680 And the copy you get, you're going to send it with the information that we provide you instantly to your chief election official of your state, which might be your attorney general.

00:05:16.500 I mean, I'm sorry, your secretary of state, or it might be your board of elections.

00:05:20.480 You're going to send it to your attorney general, and you're going to send it to the Department of Justice at the federal level, the Public Integrity Office.

00:05:28.680 These are the officials who are tasked with knowing exactly what took place in the statewide federal elections.

00:05:38.600 They have to make sure that every vote is fairly counted and every incident, if there is an incident, it's investigated.

00:05:45.160 And remember, the United Sovereign Americans lawsuits turn on the idea that Congress set a maximum amount of error allowed in a statewide election before it has to be investigated.

00:06:00.080 You can't certify an election with more error than what Congress stipulated because there could be fraud.

00:06:06.660 The presumption is that someone breached the system, so you have to scour all of your records and find out, did that happen or did it not?

00:06:16.240 So when you send these reports, what you're doing is you're playing a numbers opportunity.

00:06:23.160 It's a good process because the officials should know what happened, and they need to know what happened.

00:06:29.120 And on top of that, if they do nothing, United Sovereign Americans can use your complaint now to file a lawsuit alleging to the federal courts that not only did we prove this happened in 2022,

00:06:44.800 but the threshold of reliability was crossed and no investigation was taken.

00:06:51.040 Certification proceeded for an uncertain process, a sham election process, really, on the American people.

00:06:58.340 Now we can say, look, Judge, they're doing it again.

00:07:02.760 They're only allowed, say, 43 errors, and we've already got 2,700 reports in of hard voting system errors or denial of the vote.

00:07:13.560 We have to do this if we really love this country.

00:07:17.060 If we really want to win, we have to do this forensic heavy lifting.

00:07:20.940 And United Sovereign Americans, all you have to do, we gathered all the intel on where you have to send this,

00:07:26.900 who you have to send it to, what are the addresses, email and physical mail, you take your pick, send it.

00:07:34.740 That creates evidence because we know these officials are not going to look into it.

00:07:39.860 They never do. 1.00

00:07:40.620 They think we're a bunch of idiots. 1.00

00:07:42.120 They're wrong. 1.00

00:07:42.960 We're outsmarting them this time.

00:07:44.640 So let me get this right.

00:07:49.380 Across the 50 states, then, according to where you live, the module will be appropriate to the actual state, the law, the electoral law in that state at that time.

00:08:03.560 Is that right?

00:08:05.540 Correct.

00:08:06.100 Yep, and it will provide you with the correct officials at the top level for your state that need to hear about your experience.

00:08:14.740 Again, Facebook doesn't care.

00:08:16.920 The election officials, the law enforcement officials, they have an affirmative duty under the United States Constitution to care.

00:08:24.860 If they flout that responsibility, they need to be held accountable for it.

00:08:29.580 And the election cannot proceed.

00:08:31.940 You see, United Sovereign Americans, by filing those nine mandamus lawsuits in nine states covering 173 electoral college votes, what we did was preposition standing on the basis of civil rights to file an injunction against the certification of a process that doesn't meet Congress's standards of reliability.

00:08:59.260 Congress gets to determine how its members are elected.

00:09:04.500 We have to help.

00:09:05.960 So back in 2020, for example, then, when we saw issues of the election officers sort of closing their blinds so you couldn't see inside, and you saw the footage of ballot boxes being wheeled off without the appropriate protocols and all these things, you know, we're all inundated by all of these queryable events.

00:09:31.720 Now there's a place for people to go, as far as I'm aware, Marley, you're the only NGO that puts things together like this to centralize this, state-specific, obviously, in order for people to come with their concerns.

00:09:45.640 Just one question.

00:09:46.520 Do you have, seeing as this is all automated by internet, do you have the capacity for people to upload footage that they record with their mobile phone?

00:09:55.100 Yes, we do.

00:09:57.080 Absolutely.

00:09:57.860 You can upload footage.

00:09:59.160 You can attach photographs or documents.

00:10:02.520 Whatever you have that constitutes evidence of a violation of election law or a denial or dilution of the right to vote needs to be uploaded into this clearinghouse.

00:10:13.340 And I just want to clarify, Ben, yes, we're the only NGO that has created this kind of reporting structure and filed lawsuits to preposition standing.

00:10:24.060 And these injunction lawsuits are being drafted already.

00:10:28.140 We're not saying like, hey, maybe we'll file a lawsuit down the road.

00:10:31.760 We're saying we already have attorneys writing these lawsuits.

00:10:34.820 What we need is your reports to fill in as those are going to constitute the exhibits.

00:10:45.920 Outstanding.

00:10:47.040 That is absolutely outstanding.

00:10:49.380 Marley, once again, what was that website that you mentioned?

00:10:53.180 It's unite4freedom.com.

00:10:57.000 U-N-I-T-E number4freedom.com.

00:11:00.940 This is an extraordinary opportunity for the American people to right now participate in the process of holding elections accountable to congressional standards of reliability and holding election officials who ignore the law accountable for civil rights deprivations acting under color of law.

00:11:21.140 We're writing all those lawsuits right now, people.

00:11:24.420 We have to take this to the mat.

00:11:26.420 The parties are not doing it.

00:11:28.340 The candidates are not doing it.

00:11:30.340 No one's doing it.

00:11:31.380 We have to do it.

00:11:33.140 And you can help.

00:11:34.600 You're important and you can help.

00:11:37.900 Marley Hornick, United Sovereign Americans.

00:11:40.900 Absolutely outstanding.

00:11:42.300 Great initiative.

00:11:43.840 And I'm sure you'll be back on the show as we move towards the election where you can give us an update on how this is going down.

00:11:50.040 And I'd recommend to the whole policy now just take a look today.

00:11:53.540 Just go onto the website.

00:11:54.300 Take a look today so you can see the format.

00:11:55.880 And then on November the 5th itself, if you see something, you will already be familiar.

00:12:01.220 Is there something on the site?

00:12:02.360 Just quickly, Marley.

00:12:03.420 Is there something on the site where people can download, like, for example, the Miranda rights, where it will just tell you what the headline issues are that were observed in 2020?

00:12:16.840 So people can have, you know, they might have an instinct.

00:12:19.600 They might see something.

00:12:20.500 That's not right.

00:12:21.760 I heard something on the wall.

00:12:22.960 I heard someone talking about this.

00:12:24.120 That's not right.

00:12:24.880 But is there a list where people can go just to brief themselves on what the absolute elements are so that they can go print it out, perhaps take it with them and confront any election officials if they see and record themselves whilst they're sort of presenting this to the officials?

00:12:40.940 No, we didn't provide that.

00:12:44.380 I think that would be viewed as probably adversarial to a degree that could create liability for either the voters or United Sovereign Americans.

00:12:53.640 You'll have to use your instinct and your understanding of what the right to vote means.

00:12:58.920 If you need some refreshing on that, sign up for our Stay Informed list and you'll be invited to our Tuesday night symposium weekly studying election law and refreshing all of us and making us all a little bit smarter about how to really fight this.

00:13:14.760 You know, and that reminds me, Ben, I wanted to mention one other way that we can start fighting back about the issue of illegals voting, because I know a lot of Americans are very concerned about this.

00:13:25.380 And the focus right now is on whether or not they're going to cast a ballot in the 2024 election.

00:13:31.240 They want to bring everyone's focus to a slightly different problem, which is that states that have small electoral college representation, so they have small electoral power compared to the big states.

00:13:45.540 They're in a conundrum when the big states are adding illegal aliens to their registration lists in large numbers.

00:13:53.280 The problem they have is, first of all, the state is delegitimizing the federal government by conducting an election process.

00:14:00.560 That's election, right?

00:14:02.140 The other problem they have is that the states are defrauding the federal government in regards to apportionment.

00:14:08.260 So if you have a small electoral base in your country, in your state, I'm sorry, how do you bring home the bacon for your constituents when you're standing there watching these other states, you know, file in these illegal aliens, park them in hotels all over the state and add them to the rolls? 0.84

00:14:27.380 You basically have two choices. One is to bring illegal aliens into your state in order to compete. 1.00

00:14:36.900 What that you have to break the law. The other option is that right now.

00:14:40.820 And this is what I want the American people to do. The war room posse. 0.61

00:14:43.920 The other thing these attorney generals can do is is uphold the law.

00:14:49.060 And United Sovereign Americans is uniquely poised to help an attorney general or a group of attorney generals do this.

00:14:56.180 So right now, call your attorney general.

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00:16:13.060 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:16:20.060 Welcome back.

00:16:21.200 Marley, would you mind just giving the context for that stay informed list that you mentioned before the break?

00:16:28.180 Absolutely, Ben.

00:16:30.960 It's the same website, unite4freedom.com, and there's a stay informed opportunity.

00:16:37.960 So, you just hit that and you'll be on our mailing list and you'll get the invite every week to our study session where we get smarter together about not only how to protect the right to vote,

00:16:49.300 but what it really means going back into primary documents, into Supreme Court decisions, and reading the actual law itself,

00:16:57.040 it's like a lightning bolt compared to what you get by studying elections on social media.

00:17:05.700 Marley Hornick, absolutely outstanding.

00:17:08.340 My highest compliments.

00:17:09.580 We'll catch up again with you soon on the show.

00:17:11.920 Thanks for coming on.

00:17:12.840 God bless you now.

00:17:13.760 Thanks, Ben.

00:17:14.340 You too.

00:17:15.580 Thanks, Marley.

00:17:16.120 My next guest, John Tamney, the editor of Real Clear Markets.

00:17:21.400 John, good morning.

00:17:22.660 You put out an article, which I was reading.

00:17:26.760 It was very interesting here because there's some discussion to do with what Trump's policy should be with regards to the SALT deductions.

00:17:36.600 Could you just sort of, before explaining why this is of interest to an America First movement like MAGA,

00:17:42.300 would you just sort of just fill in the details here and say what this sort of state and local tax deductions is and how it comes to play and how it sort of its implementation affects differently blue states or red states?

00:17:58.220 Well, historically, if people paid a lot of city and state taxes wherever they lived, they could deduct the amount against what they paid to the federal government.

00:18:12.060 And this was of particular importance to people in blue states, states like California, New York, Illinois.

00:18:19.360 They pay higher taxes locally and the government spend more locally.

00:18:26.840 I'm making the case that we want this deduction.

00:18:31.460 And, in fact, we should really want a state and local tax credit.

00:18:34.920 We want to limit any way possible money flowing to Washington.

00:18:41.220 And so this is one way in which we can do it.

00:18:44.000 If people want to have big government locally, do that and then credit that against federal so that the federal government doesn't have more funds to grow.

00:18:53.660 And why would there be Republicans who are opposed to this, opposed to Trump?

00:18:59.740 Republicans are opposed to it because they make the case that, well, you know, Texas and Florida and Tennessee, red states, they don't have taxes.

00:19:10.180 And so they view assault deduction as the red states subsidizing blue states.

00:19:16.380 I think that's a backwards way of looking at it.

00:19:19.580 People in Texas, Florida and Tennessee and other low tax states, by virtue of having low local taxes, don't like big government.

00:19:28.140 And so why on earth would they want more of that money coming from big government states like California and New York flowing to Washington?

00:19:37.200 Why not keep those values of big, bloated, high-taxing government in the states, which is what conservatives should want? 0.99

00:19:44.780 We want local government.

00:19:46.100 We want people to find their bliss in their state.

00:19:48.480 And we want as little money as possible going to the federal government.

00:19:51.980 Why did – when President Trump introduced this deduction, I think it was in 2017, he set a cap of $10,000 on the deduction, if I've got that right.

00:20:07.140 Why did he set a cap on it?

00:20:08.740 Well, he did because the idea was for the people who aren't high earners in those states, they'll at least still get some deduction.

00:20:17.660 But let's hit the high earners, frequently Democrats, in states like New York and California.

00:20:23.960 I think this was a big mistake.

00:20:26.640 Since when do we as Republicans want to penalize achievers, regardless of party?

00:20:31.960 But the bigger thing is, since when do we want money in enormous amounts flowing to Washington?

00:20:39.880 Our goal is to make governments local.

00:20:43.620 And so in any way possible, we want to do this.

00:20:45.860 But Republicans figured, OK, well, these states don't vote for us in the first place.

00:20:50.240 Let's theoretically please the red states by saying we're going to take away this deduction that largely favors people in the blue states.

00:20:58.160 Now, in my question I asked, what I'd like to come down to, come back to now, why would this audience specifically, obviously this audience is madly enthusiastic for Donald Trump's program generally.

00:21:15.860 But why would they be wanting to support, why would MAGA want to be supporting this sort of deduction specifically?

00:21:23.780 First of all, because MAGA wants a successful Trump presidency.

00:21:30.000 Donald Trump has said that it was a mistake, or essentially that he's implied that it was a mistake, to get rid of this deduction in the first place.

00:21:38.460 So he wants to bring it back.

00:21:40.340 That's the first thing.

00:21:41.280 Second thing, MAGA types believe in local government.

00:21:44.100 They're activists.

00:21:45.280 The problem with a large and growing federal government is they can't control that as much.

00:21:50.160 You want governments to governance to be local, and this encourages just that.

00:21:54.440 Have taxing and spending occur inside the state.

00:21:57.420 Let's also add, what did Steve Bannon say once during the Trump transition back in 26 and 2017?

00:22:04.940 When you're coming to talk to the president-elect, let's talk about ways in which we can create jobs.

00:22:11.200 Well, jobs are a function of investment.

00:22:13.940 You can't get – no economic school of thought gets around that truth.

00:22:17.320 The rich, by virtue of being rich, have the most disposable funds to invest.

00:22:23.480 And so in returning the SALT deduction, what we're doing is we're keeping more money in the pockets, yes, of rich people.

00:22:31.160 Let's get that out there.

00:22:33.240 And they're precisely the ones that can put wealth to work on the creation – the way to creation of new companies and jobs.

00:22:39.360 The last thing you ever want to do is to make government the winner.

00:22:43.340 And the repeal of SALT made government the winner.

00:22:47.360 It meant that they could fleece taxpayers in the U.S. at even greater amounts.

00:22:52.240 And I'd like to think, lastly, that MAGA types intend to be rich someday. 0.98

00:22:57.280 They've got great dreams too.

00:22:59.220 Why should the penalty for getting rich be higher taxes?

00:23:03.140 I tell you something that, as a student of politics, that I always found particularly impressed with the – that I was particularly impressed by regarding the MAGA movement, the America First movement, which is a populist movement at its heart, populist and nationalist movement.

00:23:23.300 And that is, in Trump's 2016 campaign, he never once played – and this is really exceptional as far as populism goes.

00:23:35.640 Looking, for example, at Latin American populism, which is a totally different phenomenon, there was no populist shtick based around envy, which is a typical socialist play.

00:23:48.780 I think it's ruined Latin America, largely, this idea.

00:23:53.280 And I think this is because the American people would have rejected that.

00:23:56.820 The American people famously, right, if it is one thing that right across the world people know the American people for, it's an independence of spirit.

00:24:04.540 And traditionally, there's been always a distaste towards sort of envy peddling on behalf of political leaders.

00:24:16.620 And I think that point doesn't get made frequently enough.

00:24:20.300 This is something that puts the American MAGA brand of populism in a very different category from other forms of populism around the world.

00:24:29.360 I think that's one of the reasons why a lot of people will listen to this show, and because the American First audience is an emotionally mature audience, it will sit there and it won't react negatively when they hear someone like you say,

00:24:44.360 yes, well, you know, this will leave more money in the pockets of rich people, but that money will be invested to create jobs.

00:24:51.380 You won't hear that kind of argument made in populist circles pretty much anywhere else around the world.

00:24:59.320 So I think that's an intelligent intervention.

00:25:04.940 John, tell me something just quickly before you go about the Parkview Institute, which I gather you also have.

00:25:14.740 Yeah, well, the first thing, I just want a quick comment on that.

00:25:17.020 Yes, what could be more populist than entrepreneurialism?

00:25:21.380 What are entrepreneurs doing but saying we reject how people have been doing things for the longest time?

00:25:27.040 We're going to introduce a new way of not just meeting the needs of people, but leading them.

00:25:31.720 And so wealth creation is the ultimate statement that we're going to put the past in the past and invent new ways of making people's lives better.

00:25:41.420 So I agree.

00:25:42.760 I think once our side becomes about envy, put it to bed.

00:25:47.620 What is the Parkview Institute?

00:25:49.000 It's a manifestation of my views.

00:25:52.140 I think it's important to remember that we win not through envy, but we win through optimism.

00:25:59.140 That what we have is really remarkable.

00:26:02.680 And you know this being from England.

00:26:05.040 People look to the United States as a special place.

00:26:07.980 I want to make what's special spectacular.

00:26:11.080 I think if we can even win the arguments a little, we're never going to get what we want in an ideal form.

00:26:17.340 We will never get Adam Smith.

00:26:18.960 You and I are both fans of Adam Smith.

00:26:20.460 But if we can just change the terms of the debate a little with an optimistic take on how much better we'll get, we can make the world a much better place.

00:26:29.500 Stand by.

00:26:30.280 We'll finish this point in two minutes.

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00:29:28.460 Just finishing off now with John Tanney, editor of Real Clear Markets.

00:29:32.480 Just before the break, you were saying something, and I want to respond.

00:29:35.560 Ever since I was a kid, I've always been particularly impressed by two elements,

00:29:41.640 specifically two elements that I always firmly kept within the bracket of American exceptionalism.

00:29:46.560 The first was the fact that Americans largely, on either side of the political divide,

00:29:54.960 weren't particularly interested in acquiring the wealth legitimately earned and generated by other people,

00:30:02.660 which is almost – it is exceptional.

00:30:04.260 I can't think of any other nation where that happens because, you know, the left-wing parties, that is their shtick.

00:30:10.780 We will take wealth from the rich, right?

00:30:13.340 And we'll give it to you.

00:30:14.280 That's buying votes, right?

00:30:16.100 Americans traditionally were never really interested in that.

00:30:18.300 They just wanted a fair kick at the ball.

00:30:21.900 And I sort of – I thought of that.

00:30:25.900 I won't go into what the second aspect was because it's not particularly important here.

00:30:30.600 But I'll just mention it in a sentence.

00:30:32.700 You're the only people I'm aware of in the history of the world that raised statues

00:30:37.220 and allowed statues to be raised to heroes on the other side of a wall that had been beaten.

00:30:43.400 And that's obviously now passed into history.

00:30:46.460 But I think that both those things were really indicative of a magnanimity in the American people,

00:30:53.100 fast disappearing as you import tens of millions of people into your country 1.00

00:30:57.400 who have a very strongly different set of ideas.

00:31:02.700 John, where do people go to read more in your article, for example, today on real clear markets?

00:31:10.080 Well, they can go to real clear markets every day.

00:31:12.340 I put out a column every day.

00:31:14.000 You can go to Amazon.com, and you can hopefully buy all sorts of my books.

00:31:18.460 There's seven up there.

00:31:19.880 And then I'm at X.com, JTamney.

00:31:24.900 But, yeah, I'll just end it with – I appreciate your compliment.

00:31:27.820 I think the reason Americans are so loving of wealth is that they descend from people who risked it all to get here,

00:31:36.300 not for security, but for just the chance to express what was unique about them,

00:31:41.380 to make their own mark, to better their lives.

00:31:45.040 And so I think that attracts a certain kind of people.

00:31:47.980 And, you know, we might disagree here.

00:31:50.160 I think you can find that in the people coming today.

00:31:53.240 So many of them love themselves too much to stay where they are, and they want to get here.

00:31:58.760 John Tammany, thanks so much.

00:31:59.860 Joe, quickly, before you go, Parkview Institute, where do people go if they want to know more about that?

00:32:04.660 www.parkview.org.

00:32:06.580 It's just – it's an entity meant to talk optimistically about all that we have to be grateful for

00:32:12.660 and to improve the debate based on that.

00:32:15.120 We're great.

00:32:15.860 We can be even greater.

00:32:17.760 John, thanks for coming on the show.

00:32:19.200 God bless.

00:32:20.120 Thanks for having me on, Ben.

00:32:20.960 Thank you.

00:32:23.280 Okay.

00:32:24.220 Moving on now, Jim Rickards, good morning to you.

00:32:30.460 Before you came on the show, we were discussing earlier – you made a point here that was pretty insightful, I think.

00:32:39.600 The background is that yesterday Janet Yellen gave a speech at the 2024 U.S. Treasury Market Conference in New York,

00:32:47.860 and she was setting the scene basically saying that an underpinning of the American economy is the rule of law.

00:32:59.100 And before you came on the show, you made an absolutely astounding argument to say this is the very person

00:33:04.220 who's been undermining that concept to do with the rule of law in the confiscation of Russian assets.

00:33:10.980 We'd like to say a bit about the conference that Janet Yellen spoke at yesterday

00:33:15.660 and perhaps give an insight as to why she, as Treasury Secretary, is talking on these themes,

00:33:23.720 presumably trying to stack the debate against President Trump.

00:33:28.460 Sure.

00:33:29.500 It came down to one sentence from Janet Yellen, but when I read it, first of all, it kind of jumped off the page of me,

00:33:34.740 and then it just led to a whole chain, which we'll cover very briefly.

00:33:38.300 Yeah, this was an annual Treasury Capital Markets Conference.

00:33:42.080 She was the keynote speaker.

00:33:43.640 Her speech was about risks in the banking system and stability.

00:33:47.260 That's a whole separate subject.

00:33:49.060 She's saying it's very stable now.

00:33:50.240 Of course, nothing could be further from the truth.

00:33:52.300 But the day before the speech, on Wednesday, she gave an interview to a reporter from Politico,

00:33:58.840 and the reporter asked her specifically about change of government, obviously a reference to January 6th, 2020,

00:34:06.460 and sorry, 2021, and we could get into what's going to happen on January 6th, 2025.

00:34:11.620 But it was clearly a leading question about, you know, if Donald Trump wins and he somehow or loses, let's say,

00:34:17.760 and somehow disrupts the transition of power, is that a risk to the Treasury market?

00:34:21.700 So she took the bait and she said yes.

00:34:23.880 And I'll read – it's a very short quote.

00:34:25.220 I'll read it exactly.

00:34:26.000 She said, quote, it really is essential to our having a democratic system and a democratic government.

00:34:33.140 And one of the tremendous strengths of our financial system is that it is based on strong institutions and the rule of law.

00:34:39.160 So that's revealing it in three different ways.

00:34:41.680 Number one, this is what the White House calls an all-of-government approach.

00:34:46.280 And what that means is when they have a policy issue, whether it's a climate hoax or open borders or defeat Trump, et cetera,

00:34:52.820 they expect every agency and every department to get involved and pursue that goal, even if it has nothing to do with the mandate of that agency.

00:35:00.900 So, for example, if you're talking about climate change, yeah, I guess the Department of Energy and EPA should weigh in on that.

00:35:06.420 But the White House actually pressured the Federal Reserve to use bank regulatory powers to tell banks that they couldn't lend to oil companies.

00:35:13.400 So this is what we mean by all of government.

00:35:16.200 Everybody's in and we're going to push this goal.

00:35:18.300 And if you don't think it's your area, they say, you know, try hard or find a way.

00:35:21.940 So here's Yellen kind of chiming in on this whole issue of a transition to power and why Donald Trump's a threat to democracy,

00:35:30.240 even though that has nothing to do with the Treasury Department, number one.

00:35:33.780 Number two, you want to talk about threats to the U.S. Treasury securities market?

00:35:38.560 You want to talk about threats to the banking system?

00:35:40.660 The biggest threat is Janet Yellen. 0.52

00:35:42.160 And the reason is she's behind the theft of $300 billion of U.S. Treasury securities lawfully purchased by Russia, by the Central Bank of Russia, and put into their reserve positions.

00:35:54.460 So here, despite animosities, et cetera, Russia had $600 billion of reserves, mostly earned through exports or energy exports, et cetera.

00:36:05.140 They put $300 billion of them into U.S. Treasuries, trusting the U.S. government, trusting the rule of law.

00:36:11.100 And those were kept in custody in banks and a custodian called Euroclear.

00:36:17.080 Yellen seized them, sorry, to be clear, froze them at the outbreak of the special military operation in Ukraine in 2022.

00:36:25.520 Freezing assets is not that unusual.

00:36:28.000 We kind of do it all the time.

00:36:29.640 U.S. is pretty good at it.

00:36:31.020 But then she took it a step further and said, we're going to steal the assets, not just freeze them, which means, you know, we'll work it out later,

00:36:37.740 but actually take them, put them in a different name, use them to finance the war in Ukraine.

00:36:43.720 Because the Congress was, you know, they did pass $60 billion a few months ago, but they made it clear that was going to be the last go around.

00:36:51.280 So that $300 billion was going to be available to finance the war in Ukraine.

00:36:54.720 So what's the reaction to that?

00:36:56.220 This is how the White House can't think, you know, beyond one move.

00:36:59.320 The reaction is this supercharged the effort of the BRICS, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, now five other countries have joined,

00:37:06.900 to create an alternative currency as a payment currency.

00:37:10.900 We have a BRICS summit, the Leaders' Summit.

00:37:13.080 They have hundreds of meetings a year.

00:37:14.660 But the Leaders' Summit, so it'll involve Putin and Xi Jinping and Lula and, you know, Prime Minister Modi of India, Ramaphosa of South Africa.

00:37:22.760 They're meeting in Kazan in the Russian Federation on October 21st.

00:37:27.000 There's a rotating presidency.

00:37:29.140 Russia happens to be president of the BRICS this year, and so Putin's going to be the host for this.

00:37:33.940 They're going to advance the ball by admitting a lot of new members.

00:37:37.600 And people say, you know, you can't challenge the dollar or the dollar's too strong.

00:37:40.960 I say, yeah, the dollar's king of the hill.

00:37:42.260 There's no doubt about that.

00:37:43.680 But the way you challenge it is anybody can print up a currency.

00:37:47.260 I could print up a currency and, you know, sell it to you for dollars or whatever.

00:37:50.600 But you need a large membership.

00:37:52.900 When you have a large membership and they agree on a certain currency so that if I export to you and you pay me in the currency, I don't have to spend it in your market.

00:38:01.240 I can spend it in 20 other markets.

00:38:03.320 That's what makes a payment currency successful.

00:38:05.960 And that's exactly what the BRICS are doing.

00:38:07.920 So you have this.

00:38:08.900 So Janet Yellen, you know, gets her helmet on, you know, her beat Trump helmet on and talks about Trump as a threat to democracy and therefore to the Treasury market. 0.96

00:38:18.680 Right. She's the greatest threat because she's stealing 300 billion dollars of Russian assets. 1.00

00:38:23.460 And the pushback would be to advance the creation of a new currency that will challenge the dollar.

00:38:29.320 So it has profound implications for the U.S. system.

00:38:32.840 By the way, this is why one of the reasons why the price of gold is hitting all time highs.

00:38:37.580 Right now, the price of gold is at an all time high, very close to two thousand seven hundred dollars an ounce.

00:38:42.360 Why? Because central banks around the world are looking at Yellen and her theft of Russian assets and saying, maybe I don't maybe I don't want so many treasuries in my reserve account.

00:38:52.160 You can't get away from them completely without the margin.

00:38:54.420 You can buy gold. So central banks, Americans don't seem to know much about gold.

00:38:58.900 Americans are not lining up to buy gold.

00:39:00.840 But central banks are.

00:39:02.420 They beginning 2010, they've been net buyers for 14 years.

00:39:06.080 That's continuing.

00:39:06.920 So she's she's done more to undermine the Treasury market than anyone.

00:39:10.120 Jim, that's an outstanding analysis.

00:39:14.900 If you could say one thing to President Trump, who will be thinking about his his his his platform for the subsequent four years of his second administration.

00:39:27.400 Would you would that one thing be to do something to cement down on the rule of law in the United States in terms to give to give confidence back?

00:39:38.880 Well, absolutely. I mean, to the section of a first rate attorney general, you know, clean clean house of the Justice Department, stop the political prosecutions, which we see almost every day.

00:39:56.720 You know, put run lawfare off the road.

00:39:59.920 Lawfare was not what the law was intended to do.

00:40:02.500 It was intended to resolve issues, not create new ones.

00:40:05.480 But, you know, my specialty is, you know, capital markets and finance and what I would advise the president.

00:40:10.300 By the way, one of your other regular guests, Judy Shelton, I think would agree.

00:40:14.140 And others is have the U.S. Treasury buy gold, right?

00:40:18.120 Because the U.S. has the most gold of anyone in the world.

00:40:20.340 We have eight thousand tons of gold.

00:40:22.240 If it were announced that the U.S. government is buying gold, the price of gold would go higher.

00:40:26.820 Well, who wins from that?

00:40:27.920 We do because we have the most gold.

00:40:30.300 And this would that would increase confidence in the dollar.

00:40:32.400 If you have confidence in the dollar, you're going to have confidence in the U.S.

00:40:35.560 Treasury market because it's denominated in dollars.

00:40:37.620 I'm not saying full blown, you know, 1890s gold standard.

00:40:42.380 That's a topic for another day.

00:40:43.640 But just add to the reserves in Fort Knox and at West Point.

00:40:47.120 You know, the U.S. will win because the price of gold will go up.

00:40:49.940 And number two, you'll strengthen confidence in the U.S. dollar.

00:40:52.460 That helps the U.S.

00:40:53.420 That helps the rule of law.

00:40:56.660 But your takeaway then from Janet Yellen's intervention is that it's either gaslighting or hypocrisy or both, right?

00:41:03.620 And it's not only it's not only that America's confiscated, frozen and then stolen the 300 billion dollars of assets, of Russian assets.

00:41:13.120 It's that America was was beating other nations around the world to do exactly the same, to undermine the international rules based order, which I don't rate.

00:41:25.220 But this is their shtick, right?

00:41:26.740 Undermine the very thing that they said that they were trying to defend.

00:41:30.460 30 seconds.

00:41:32.260 Yeah.

00:41:33.620 Oh, well, we've lost we've lost Jim Rickards.

00:41:39.740 OK, well, then I think what we'll do is we'll see if we get Jim back up and we'll give his socials, his strategic insights after the break.

00:41:49.780 My next guest is Todd Benzman, who's coming up, who's just got an article in.

00:41:54.900 I think I think it's right to say the Mail, Daily Mail Online is the world's largest newspaper online presence.

00:42:02.020 Todd's got an incredible expose of what the Biden administration is doing here in the United States or in the United States, I should say.

00:42:12.660 So please stand by in two minutes.

00:42:14.120 We'll be back with Todd Benzman.

00:42:16.000 I'll give you Jim Rickards socials when we come back.

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00:44:33.020 Welcome back. We've got a miracle of miracles for modern technology. We've got Jim Rickards back.

00:44:37.980 Jim, you were just finishing off your point there before the line froze.

00:44:43.260 Why don't you just do a quick synthesis of what you were saying and then tell people where they can go to sign up for your excellent strategic insights?

00:44:54.220 Well, sure. Again, the idea was that Janet Yellen's warning about threats to the financial system coming from Donald Trump.

00:44:59.540 And my point is, the greatest threat to the financial system is Janet Yellen, because she's stealing U.S. Treasury securities from Russia, $300 billion worth, to use them to fund them more in Ukraine, which doesn't have popular support. 0.77

00:45:11.360 Beyond that, this is catalyzing the BRICS to come up with an alternative to the dollar.

00:45:16.360 So she's doing more to destroy confidence in the dollar than anyone in my policy recommendation.

00:45:20.720 It's a long list, but I would say, why doesn't the Treasury buy gold?

00:45:25.020 And we'll be the biggest winner because we have the most gold.

00:45:27.400 We have 8,000 tons of gold.

00:45:28.580 But these are the kind of things that kind of escape the White House.

00:45:32.040 But yeah, thanks, Ben.

00:45:33.340 To learn more, we have a landing page, Meltdown24.com.

00:45:38.880 Meltdown24.com.

00:45:40.000 This is fascinating.

00:45:41.140 You can go there and subscribe to my newsletter, Strategic Intelligence.

00:45:44.480 We hope you do.

00:45:45.340 But there's a video, and we've had an enormous response to this.

00:45:47.780 We explain how people are waiting for the election to be over on November 5th.

00:45:51.880 We make the point that the election is not going to be over until January 6th, 2025.

00:45:56.560 That's when Democrats are going to introduce a resolution.

00:45:59.080 This is the new house, not the old house, to declare Trump an insurrectionist and disqualify his electoral votes.

00:46:04.620 Even if Trump wins, say, 300 electoral votes on November 5th, they could all be disqualified on January 6th.

00:46:12.800 And that would put forward Kamala Harris as the president, because under the 12th Amendment, whether you like her or not, she's the only one you could vote for under the 12th Amendment, because she's the only one who has any electoral votes, even though she doesn't have 270. 0.89

00:46:24.980 When no one has 270, it goes to the House.

00:46:28.120 And the House would have no choice but to vote for Kamala Harris. 0.83

00:46:31.600 But I'm a lawyer, among other things, and I read the 12th Amendment closely.

00:46:36.740 The Republicans could foil this by standing out on the mall in the snow and denying the House a quorum.

00:46:43.440 The 12th Amendment says if there's no quorum to vote for Kamala, then J.D. Vance would become acting president.

00:46:48.860 So it sounds bizarre.

00:46:50.180 It's all in the 12th Amendment.

00:46:51.200 We explain it at Meltdown24.com.

00:46:53.880 Jim, that's actually outstanding.

00:46:58.820 I might just point out, I mean, it's obvious, but I might just point out the reason why Jalit Yellen is undermining the concept of the rule of law is straightforward.

00:47:07.100 There's been no judicial process to do with the seizing and then the stealing, effectively, of assets which are stored in the United States.

00:47:17.500 It's like if I robbed you, Jim, of $50 in your wallet, you take me to court, we'd have a whole court process about this.

00:47:23.020 There'd be a jury, you know, you'd have police, you'd have a testimony or the rest of it for $50.

00:47:30.120 Janet Yellen, without any due process, any court, any judges, any jurors, has basically, by her own civil service mandate, has ordered the confiscation of $300 billion worth of private individuals. 0.99

00:47:50.920 But it's not like wealth owned by the Russian government.

00:47:54.380 These are private individuals' wealth that's just being stolen.

00:47:58.220 And the due process will come when Janet Yellen moves forward. 1.00

00:48:01.180 Russia will countersue in Dubai, Hong Kong, Beijing and other places that have jurisdiction and freeze the entire $40 trillion of assets at EuroClear.

00:48:11.660 In other words, the legal reaction, the rule of law will come when Russia sues for the wrongful theft and ties up the entire global financial system. 0.87

00:48:18.740 That's how little Janet Yellen understands about international finance.

00:48:22.500 Well, you know, that lack of understanding isn't going to be something seen by the war in posse.

00:48:28.960 They've been very well briefed this morning by you on this issue.

00:48:31.960 Thanks, Jim.

00:48:32.420 Thanks for coming on the show.

00:48:33.940 I strongly recommend people to go to your site and to sign up for your insights.

00:48:39.180 Thanks, Jim.

00:48:39.760 God bless.

00:48:40.080 Thanks, Jim.

00:49:10.080 Five other Texans were sued in federal court under the Ku Klux Klan law for flying Trump flags next to the Biden bus in 2020.

00:49:18.280 For four long years, we've been abused by the same lawfare that's happening to Trump as average Americans.

00:49:25.600 And so free speech went on trial before a jury earlier this month.

00:49:30.760 We were in trial for two and a half weeks where a jury trial found that we were not guilty and not liable for giving the occupants of the bus, which include White House officials, Democrat politicians, and Biden-Harris campaign staffers, emotional damage.

00:49:46.520 That is what they hauled us into court for, emotional damage.

00:49:49.660 The jury found us not guilty in federal court, which sets a huge precedent for free speech rights moving forward in the 2024 election.

00:49:57.860 Julian, that's absolutely astounding.

00:50:00.940 Congratulations to you.

00:50:02.260 You must be very relieved to have won this court case, considering how so many of these things have been going due to the weaponized DOJ.

00:50:13.740 Look, in 30 seconds, quickly, because I know you've got to be very grateful for you coming on the show and at such short notice to give this quick update.

00:50:22.600 Could you just quickly give your social media where people might go to keep up with your output and your commentary?

00:50:31.420 Yes.

00:50:31.860 Thank you so much.

00:50:32.840 So they can follow us on Twitter at Free Speech Deaf, which is short for Free Speech Defender, or on social media, my name, Joey Lynn underscore Masaros.

00:50:43.980 And we ask average Americans to join us in defending free speech rights moving forward, because what they're trying to do with us, they want to do with other Americans.

00:50:52.280 We have to ensure we protect our basic rights.

00:50:55.020 And I thought Steve Bannon might like knowing they used a clip of me with him at CPAC as part of their evidence against us during this trial.

00:51:02.840 It only served to prove that we did absolutely nothing wrong.

00:51:07.660 Joey Lynn Masaros, thanks very much indeed for coming on the show and sharing your good news with us.

00:51:12.680 God bless. Catch up again with you soon.

00:51:14.640 Thanks. Have a great day.

00:51:16.500 Thank you.

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Bannon's War Room - September 27, 2024

Episode 3935： The Independent Spirit Of MAGA Will Bring Victory In November

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