Bannon's War Room - Episode 3959： Treason Is An Understatement

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:11.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:19.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:22.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:26.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:33.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:43.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:00:58.000 Smith wrote that when it came to Trump and his co-conspirators' claims about non-citizen voters,

00:01:05.000 the conspirators started with the allegation that 36,000 non-citizens voted in Arizona.

00:01:11.000 Five days later, it was beyond credulity that a few hundred thousand didn't vote.

00:01:16.000 Three weeks later, the bare minimum was 40 or 50,000.

00:01:20.000 The reality is about 250,000 days after that.

00:01:24.000 The assertion was then 32,000.

00:01:26.000 And ultimately, the conspirators landed right back where they started at 36,000,

00:01:31.000 a false figure that they never verified or corroborated.

00:01:34.000 But perhaps what's even more alarming is that it sure seems like Trump is ready to do all the things that Jack Smith is accusing him of all over again with the 2024 election.

00:01:45.000 A lot of these new details sound pretty identical to what Trump has been saying for months now,

00:01:50.000 as he preemptively lays the groundwork to once again dispute the results,

00:01:54.000 making absurd claims about how this election will be rigged and Democrats are cheating.

00:01:59.000 New reporting from NBC's Von Hilliard highlights that this year,

00:02:03.000 Trump and his campaign have cited more than a dozen examples of so-called election interference activities by Americans

00:02:10.000 to claim the upcoming election is being unfairly manipulated, despite having no evidence.

00:02:15.000 An investigation by Fox 2 finds non-U.S. citizen migrant workers are being encouraged to vote in November's presidential election.

00:02:24.000 Fox Files investigator Chris Hayes found this out after an employer of migrant workers alerted him.

00:02:30.000 These union mailers were just sent to non-U.S. citizen migrant workers.

00:02:36.000 They say, quote, stop the steal by stopping Trump's allies, vote for Harris Walls and pro-worker candidates.

00:02:42.000 Here's 11 of the mailers addressed to non-U.S. citizens mailed to their workplace, which alerted Fox 2.

00:02:49.000 The business, which specializes in landscaping, does not want to be identified.

00:02:54.000 The company's manager told us their migrant worker employees, who are from Mexico,

00:02:58.000 are all background checked and have legal H-2B visas, which allow their temporary stay here.

00:03:04.000 The manager explained the migrant workers are also allowed to have union representation,

00:03:09.000 and that they pay dues to their union, called LIUNA.

00:03:12.000 But the manager cannot understand why the union would send mailers to non-U.S. citizens,

00:03:17.000 encouraging their vote in the presidential election.

00:03:20.000 We've tried repeatedly to get an explanation from Washington, D.C.-based union, LIUNA.

00:03:25.000 Three emails to their communications department and three phone calls.

00:03:31.000 A fourth call also went to voicemail.

00:03:36.000 You are in the war room.

00:03:38.000 It's Natalie G. Winters hosting today, Monday, October 7th,

00:03:42.000 coming at you live from Washington, D.C.

00:03:46.000 Now, we know the new refrain is there's no evidence that non-citizens don't vote.

00:03:51.000 Yeah, sort of reminiscent of the whole safe and effective siren song that we used to hear

00:03:56.000 coming from the mainstream media.

00:03:58.000 Of course, that second clip with the investigators over at Fox 5, I think indicating probably otherwise.

00:04:05.000 I took the time over this weekend to read the 165-page filing that Jack Smith dropped, the legal hatchet man of the Biden regime.

00:04:16.000 And something really stuck out to me, not just the glowing review of war room, shall I say.

00:04:22.000 But what was a key point that they kept trying to make throughout that filing, which then in turn MSNBC and all the mainstream media wanted to pick up, they sort of pointed to the smoking gun of the whole filing, was the issue of non-citizens voting.

00:04:37.000 And if Denver wants to toss up the articles on the screen, it's quite interesting.

00:04:44.000 Because MSNBC ran, with their own take on it, Media Matters, you can see Jack Smith pinpoints Trump's lies about non-citizens voting in federal elections.

00:04:54.000 Media Matters had their own meltdown over it.

00:04:57.000 And just this morning, we had a wonderful guest on the show who was telling you guys, the audience, how you could get equipped with voter roll information to see if there were indeed ineligible voters who are planning on voting in November's election.

00:05:09.000 And, well, in record-quick turnaround time, Madeline Peltz, I guess she's back working, back being the PR agent of the show, she's doing her own article melting down that you guys now may have the identities of some people who probably shouldn't be voting.

00:05:26.000 Yet, I guess, in Joe Biden's America, they're going out of their way to make sure that they can.

00:05:32.320 Now, I want to be very clear, because I think that Jack Smith, this filing, they're trying to intimidate us from talking about the issue of non-citizens voting, right?

00:05:46.840 In the same vein that in 2020, they overwhelmed the system by flooding the zone with mail-in ballots with no chain of custody.

00:05:55.840 They've taken a similar but slightly different approach, I think, in 2024, which is flooding the zone with people in the form of, what, 10 million-plus illegal migrants? 0.53

00:06:08.280 Well, also saying, not only can you not have voter ID in elections, but actually you don't even need to be able to prove citizenship, and the Democrats are bold enough to actually vote against legislation that would have prevented that.

00:06:21.920 And, of course, Republicans are too weak to do anything on that front.

00:06:25.180 But I just want to flag for our betters, including Jack Smith's office, the other clip that we opened with, we can throw the pictures of the flyers up.

00:06:32.980 And here's why this story is such a big deal.

00:06:36.900 Flyers explicitly showing people, not just if they should or should not vote, but showing them how to vote with a QR code linking to voter registration, telling people to vote explicitly for Harris and Waltz.

00:06:49.560 That's on the flyer.

00:06:50.520 That's a direct quote.

00:06:51.980 But these flyers were sent out.

00:06:54.280 They came from a labor union, the Laborers' International Union of North America, which boasts over 500,000 members.

00:07:02.940 And, oh, what's this?

00:07:04.360 Their president spoke at the DNC.

00:07:09.180 This isn't just some radical fringe group.

00:07:12.300 He actually got one of the most coveted speaking slots at the DNC.

00:07:15.840 And when they were reached out to for comment, you would think you'd probably want to say, oh, this was a mistake.

00:07:22.820 We apologize.

00:07:23.500 It didn't happen again.

00:07:25.200 They don't even care.

00:07:27.580 Because they're in on it.

00:07:28.660 It's part of the fraud.

00:07:32.860 Now, I know Jack Smith is not just trying to intimidate you guys from wanting to talk about non-citizens voting.

00:07:38.400 They're obviously trying to intimidate people like myself who work for Stephen K. Bannon.

00:07:42.700 Obviously, they threw Stephen K. Bannon in prison.

00:07:45.840 But if you read the indictment, you see they talk about War Room and the messaging on this show quite a lot.

00:07:54.140 I say it's actually a glowing review because it says that we're the only show that's actually courageous enough to build the narratives and be ahead of the curve when it comes to talking about election fraud.

00:08:05.940 So, Jack Smith, if you think your 165-page filing is going to intimidate this audience from not talking about election fraud or non-citizens voting, you're severely mistaken.

00:08:19.940 Severely mistaken.

00:08:22.100 Because I'll do episodes where the only thing we'll focus on will be non-citizen voting. 0.78

00:08:26.900 And you know what?

00:08:27.280 We'll do that starting today.

00:08:30.120 And maybe for once, I actually sort of agree with Joy Reid on something, that the Trump campaign shouldn't use the term election interference in reference to Jack Smith.

00:08:41.980 Because that's an understatement.

00:08:43.380 I'd call it election obstruction, but that still implies that it's actually an election.

00:08:51.120 And with the actions that they've taken or not taken, whether it's non-citizens voting, universal vote by mail, they're doing every single damn thing in their power to make sure that this election doesn't resemble anything deserving of the word election.

00:09:04.540 Speaking of this, you want to see how in-your-face this is?

00:09:08.700 Jack Smith is essentially the new star of a campaign ad.

00:09:14.200 Not from some super PAC, not from some group, but from Kamala Harris herself.

00:09:18.300 Let's roll that.

00:09:20.040 We fight like hell.

00:09:21.580 And if we don't fight like hell, we're not going to have a country anymore.

00:09:25.660 New evidence about Donald Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

00:09:29.400 This is bombshell after bombshell after bombshell.

00:09:32.960 Trump was pressuring Pence to take action.

00:09:35.620 Mike Pence has betrayed the United States of America!

00:09:40.620 Trump looked at him and said only, so what?

00:09:52.080 In other words, direct quotes, actual images of documents coming out of Jack Smith's office are now being used as campaign material.

00:10:02.960 For the Harris campaign.

00:10:06.900 I think when they say new way forward, that's actually just going to be the marching orders that they'll be giving us when they're trying to push us into the gulags.

00:10:15.840 This is so in-your-face.

00:10:18.060 I mean, frankly, I think at this rate, the ideal candidate for a hire and a potential Harris administration would actually be someone like Ryan Ruth, the second Trump assassin.

00:10:33.640 For starters, he doesn't care about America.

00:10:36.100 All he cares about is giving money to Ukraine.

00:10:39.380 Secondly, he's obviously down to weaponize against President Trump, literally.

00:10:44.720 And I guess third, he owns a gun, which I'm told Kamala Harris does, too.

00:10:48.180 So, I mean, I'm at a loss for words that they would put that in a campaign ad.

00:10:55.720 It shows you how, frankly, how desperate they are.

00:10:59.960 But I want to also bring up one more picture because this, I think, gets to the bigger issue here.

00:11:05.720 It's the country over party.

00:11:08.820 Now, sure, this was a picture that they had.

00:11:12.460 This was the rallying sign when they were doing the Liz Cheney and Kamala Harris rally in Wisconsin at the birthplace of the modern Republican Party.

00:11:21.220 Of course, they meant it to be that we should prioritize country over party, right?

00:11:25.500 We can't normalize Donald Trump.

00:11:27.140 We need a return to normalcy.

00:11:28.480 Though I would ask you, Liz Cheney, returning to normal means making sure that you and your family can make billions of dollars off of endless foreign wars, killing American citizens and soldiers and people abroad and continuing the bloodshed in Ukraine and leaving our poorest southern border open, flooding our classrooms with transgender propaganda. 0.93

00:11:47.680 That's the normal that you want to continue?

00:11:50.560 I think especially, remember, you're endorsing someone of who co-signed was the last person in the room on that botched Afghanistan withdrawal.

00:11:59.560 But sure, one way to look at it is country over party, which is laughable because there won't be a country if we have Kamala Harris's border policies.

00:12:08.600 But the other way to look at it, another reading, is that it's actually a party that the country's over.

00:12:16.600 They didn't quite catch that.

00:12:18.600 It looks like they're having a country's over party because they know it is if Kamala Harris wins.

00:12:26.280 That's the point.

00:12:28.900 The DNC displays of patriotism and Kamala Harris' sudden addition of the word sovereignty to her vernacular while she's speaking out in Arizona.

00:12:39.980 Yeah, we're not buying it.

00:12:41.620 There's a very important piece, just to bring this full circle, in Axios they published yesterday.

00:12:50.220 And it essentially said that if Trump loses, that the Republican Party is going to have to come to grips with the fact that the MAGA direction that it's gone with in recent years, that they're going to need to reverse that.

00:13:04.240 They actually floated, I'm not kidding, people like Liz Cheney and Nikki Haley as those who should pick up the mantle and take over the Republican Party.

00:13:12.780 Yeah, we're not going back.

00:13:17.920 I think that's a quote from Kamala Harris, all culturally appropriated for this situation.

00:13:22.380 But here's the thing.

00:13:24.920 When we talk about how they don't want elections to actually be elections, it's because they like it when what we're having a debate over is the software that the country runs on, right?

00:13:37.120 Oh, you know, do we want to have a war in this country or war in that country?

00:13:40.100 But President Trump represents a change to the hardware.

00:13:45.120 That's why you see the New York Times freaking out about how they're going to weaponize the justice system.

00:13:51.000 Oh, we can't normalize President Trump because he wants to change the way this country is run and administered, and rightfully so.

00:14:00.420 Because long gone are the days of our foreign policy being dictated by Dick Cheney's pocketbook and people like Kamala Harris and people like Joe Biden.

00:14:17.880 And people who can only loan Americans $750 when their communities are destroyed by floods, yet on October 2nd, announce hundreds of millions of dollars to Ukraine for flood assistance, sending emergency medical teams all the resources that Americans in North Carolina would love to have.

00:14:44.460 But they send it to Ukraine instead.

00:14:47.880 I guess that's the party favor for a country's over party, right? 0.61

00:14:53.060 We'll be right back after this short break.

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00:16:50.060 We are joined now by a state senator from Arizona, Jake Hoffman.

00:16:54.460 Jake, I wanted to have you on.

00:16:55.960 I know there's a lot of evolving news when it comes to election integrity.

00:17:00.160 And no, Joy Reid, that's not a dog whistle.

00:17:02.920 Out in Arizona, I'd love if you could just sort of walk through sort of the, you know, your reactions to that non-citizen clip that we, voting clip that we played.

00:17:10.320 But what you guys are doing on the ground there in terms of the threat that that poses.

00:17:15.880 Absolutely.

00:17:16.720 Well, Natalie, thanks for having me on the show.

00:17:19.040 Look, so the documentary proof of citizenship bill that kind of raised all of this consternation around this issue was actually my bill back from 2022.

00:17:29.420 This is something that in Arizona Republicans have been focused on for years now.

00:17:34.640 We have to make sure that we don't have non-citizens voting. 1.00

00:17:37.700 And, you know, you asked about my reaction to the MSNBC clip.

00:17:42.400 Honestly, I was trying to just, you know, keep my ears from bleeding as I was having to listen to her.

00:17:47.200 But the reality is that the Democrats want to dog whistle that non-citizens don't vote.

00:17:54.120 However, when we look at what Biden in his own actions did as soon as he took office, I think it was February or March of 2021, with Executive Order 14-019,

00:18:05.020 he weaponized the entire federal government for the sole purpose as they were unleashing an invasion on America.

00:18:13.860 They weaponized the entire federal government to specifically register those people to vote and encourage them to vote.

00:18:20.900 This is not something that should come as a shock to anyone if you've been paying attention.

00:18:25.640 I know your audience understands this.

00:18:27.720 But in Arizona, we are doing everything we can to make sure that you have to have documentary proof of citizenship to vote in our state elections and in those for Congress as well.

00:18:37.260 And if you can walk us through, because there seems to be a barrage of stories coming out of Arizona, whether it was that peculiar Washington Post,

00:18:47.600 I think sort of a contrived leak on the phone call between the three, you know, head honchos out there,

00:18:52.980 essentially suggesting that, well, you know, the problem of the 98,000 registered voters that didn't have citizenship is something that predates just this election cycle.

00:19:04.040 But that's been going on for decades. Now you have, you know, new reporting out showing that a bunch of students are getting text messages.

00:19:10.940 Can you kind of just give us the latest on all that, too, and how you guys are fighting back in the state Senate?

00:19:16.740 Absolutely. Well, look, when it comes to the first, it was 98,000.

00:19:20.940 Now it's 218,000 supposed voters that don't have documentary proof of citizenship.

00:19:26.100 I think, look, it's important, as President Trump has taught us, as Glenn Beck has taught us, as Steve Bannon has taught us,

00:19:31.920 when they show you what they're doing with the right hand, you have to look at what the left hand is actually doing.

00:19:36.860 And I find it interesting that it was Stephen Richard who sued Adrian Fontes over these 98,000 non-Dipac voters.

00:19:46.440 You know, that's interesting because he lost his primary and now he's got to set up his next gig, right?

00:19:51.380 So that means he's going to play very, very favorably with the radical left as it comes to the general election.

00:19:57.520 Adrian Fontes, for his part, has refused to release any records for those voters.

00:20:03.580 He won't tell the political parties who they are. He won't tell the county recorders who they are.

00:20:09.100 So this does seem quite contrived, as you mentioned.

00:20:12.220 And then you top that off with the leak to The Washington Post.

00:20:16.040 And candidly, I think that sets up a very kind of dire situation where Katie Hobbs could simply refuse to certify,

00:20:24.760 Katie Hobbs being the radical Democrat governor that we have in the governor's office right now. 1.00

00:20:29.940 She could, under the guise of the 218,000 voters, refuse to certify the election come November.

00:20:37.180 So this is something the Senate, I know the Senate Elections Committee with Wendy Rogers,

00:20:40.740 good friend of the show, that she's been looking into, and I know Alex Colliden on the House Elections Committee

00:20:47.760 is also investigating to see how we can prevent the shenanigans regarding these voters.

00:20:53.960 Now, you mentioned the major security breach at our public universities.

00:20:59.140 So over the weekend, every single student at Arizona State University, University of Arizona,

00:21:05.420 and Northern Arizona University, received a similar text message directed to Lumberjacks, that's NAU,

00:21:13.160 Sun Devils, that's ASU, and Wildcats, that's U of A.

00:21:16.540 And it was from the Kamala Harris campaign.

00:21:18.900 Now, why is this unique?

00:21:20.540 Republicans, people like Turning Point Action, Charlie Kirk, the Trump campaign,

00:21:25.920 have been trying to get access to that same data for months and months.

00:21:31.420 And yet they've been stonewalled, constantly given the runaround by the universities.

00:21:35.920 But now, miraculously, on the eve of early ballots being sent, we've got Kamala Harris shows up. 0.97

00:21:44.840 And so I put out a tweet on this.

00:21:46.180 It's gotten 10,000-plus retweets.

00:21:48.920 And I will tell you, the evidence is pouring in.

00:21:51.660 It's not just Arizona students who had their personally identifiable information exploited.

00:21:56.720 It's also students in Nevada, in Georgia, in Michigan, in New Mexico, in New Hampshire, and in North Carolina.

00:22:04.520 Now, I find that list of states, of folks who brought evidence, quite surprising,

00:22:09.920 because those are all swing states or states that are on the bubble for voting for Trump.

00:22:14.700 And here we have Kamala Harris write in and start text messaging the PII of these students. 1.00

00:22:20.340 And I'm just curious, if you could give me a minute, when your Democrat colleagues express opposition to laws that would essentially necessitate not even just IDs, but proof of citizenship,

00:22:33.820 I feel like that's such a low bar to entry, what is their rationale as to opposing it?

00:22:39.520 Well, quite frankly, they've said it's racist.

00:22:43.000 And I think you can look no further than the lawsuits that groups like Lucha and Mark Elias, right, the Democrat hitman for lawfare,

00:22:52.680 you know, in their lawsuit immediately, it took less than 24 hours after Governor Ducey signed my documentary proof of citizenship bill into law,

00:23:02.000 that Mark Elias filed a legal challenge and, you know, to get an injunction on that law so that we couldn't enforce it.

00:23:09.520 And they quite simply say that the law was designed to target people of color, low-income voters, and other underserved voters.

00:23:18.640 Now, we know this is bogus.

00:23:20.600 Look, this is not a Republican issue.

00:23:22.360 Ensuring that it's citizens who vote is not a Republican issue and it's not a Democrat issue.

00:23:26.600 This is an every single voter issue.

00:23:29.040 But Democrats, they don't want that because their entire game plan all along has been to import voters during the Biden administration

00:23:36.720 so that by the 2024 election and through Executive 14-019, they could rig the system in their favor

00:23:44.400 so that they would have unfettered California-style one-party control for generations to come.

00:23:51.760 Senator Jake Hoffman, if people want to follow you, check out all your work.

00:23:55.620 Where can they go to do that?

00:23:57.240 You can find me on Elon Musk's X at Jake Hoffman AZ.

00:24:01.720 Jake, thank you so much for joining us.

00:24:07.040 Keep us updated on how the Harris administration is stealing the numbers of a bunch of college students

00:24:14.080 to try to turn out the vote.

00:24:15.340 They're just that desperate.

00:24:17.220 We'll have you back on.

00:24:17.900 Thank you.

00:24:18.580 Thanks, Natalie.

00:24:19.020 Now, Warren Posse, I play this video, I think, in honor of Stephen K. Bannon.

00:24:26.460 You know he loves Andy Weissman of MSNBC fame.

00:24:31.860 And the voice that you hear in the back, we're going to be joined by him after the break

00:24:35.300 to walk us through this wonderful interaction.

00:24:37.920 So in honor of Stephen K. Bannon, let's play Andy Weissman getting absolutely shredded.

00:24:42.540 To ask us questions, and let me just remind you to go to the microphone so everyone can

00:24:48.560 hear you.

00:24:49.080 Yes.

00:24:49.760 First, I want to thank the panel for allowing us all to sit in on this very interesting

00:24:53.860 podcast conversation.

00:24:55.820 I have a question for Professor Weissman.

00:24:59.200 Democrats in Congress, specifically John Conyers, admonished your predecessor at the FBI.

00:25:05.420 John Conyers said she broke the law with the national security letters, violating the

00:25:10.380 Fourth Amendment.

00:25:10.920 Can you tell us, did the members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence know

00:25:17.580 of your secret 25-year relationship with the intelligence asset Felix Sater when he testified

00:25:24.740 in 2017?

00:25:28.560 So I don't know Felix Sater.

00:25:32.140 Really, you signed an agreement with him in 1998 and another one in 2017.

00:25:36.220 It was released in 2019 by The Intercept.

00:25:39.560 Why are you lying to these NYU students, Professor Weissman?

00:25:43.040 Okay, well, I don't know Felix Sater.

00:25:44.220 You personally recommended to Robert Mueller, you said in your book.

00:25:48.500 Sir, he's answered your question.

00:25:50.180 You said he lied.

00:25:51.120 He said he doesn't know Felix Sater.

00:25:52.760 Read the book that this man wrote.

00:25:54.800 He's answered your question, so I'm going to ask you to sit down.

00:25:56.020 He said that he told Robert Mueller to bring in Felix Sater.

00:26:00.680 Felix Sater is the Russian developer of Trump Tower Moscow.

00:26:04.840 I think you planted an intelligence asset to testify against the rightly elected 45th president

00:26:11.280 of the United States.

00:26:12.680 You, sir, are a fraud.

00:26:14.580 You should be in jail, Andrew Weissman.

00:26:16.560 Okay, next question.

00:26:19.660 Next question.

00:26:26.960 So I also want to thank the panel.

00:26:28.840 Moving on.

00:26:30.100 The risk of taking questions.

00:26:32.680 You know what?

00:26:33.140 This is a good example of, like, free speech.

00:26:36.580 That's right.

00:26:38.400 Seriously.

00:26:39.000 And just to be clear, this really is a good example of free speech.

00:26:49.800 People should be able to say what they want, have their views, and they're doing it peacefully.

00:26:55.880 We wouldn't stop someone, just to be clear, I don't speak for the institution and its policies

00:27:00.380 now, but we wouldn't stop someone from asking a question.

00:27:03.820 We would draw the line when it starts to disrupt the overall gathering, right?

00:27:07.600 And so when the same question has been asked five times and already answered, that's it.

00:27:14.060 It's too good.

00:27:14.880 How glorious is that, Andy Weissman?

00:27:18.040 You're so smart on MSNBC.

00:27:20.720 You got all your nice podcasts and books coming out.

00:27:23.960 You're Mr. Strongman, right?

00:27:26.360 You're prosecuting Trump.

00:27:29.400 You can't even take a single question during a Q&A seminar.

00:27:34.920 You break down.

00:27:35.760 You melt down.

00:27:36.480 And then I love the pitiful.

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00:29:04.200 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:29:12.760 Welcome back to The War Room, where you've got to be checking out birchgold.com slash Bannon,

00:29:17.400 getting the latest installment of the end of the dollar empire as gold continues to hit record highs

00:29:22.600 amidst rather a turbulent economy.

00:29:25.960 But all that aside, I am honored to be joined by the man behind that wonderful clip, Jason Goodman.

00:29:32.700 Jason, thank you again for, I think, saying what all of us wish we could have said to that MSNBC hack,

00:29:39.760 although I guess the through line runs all the way to the White House with him.

00:29:43.060 But I'd love if you could just sort of, you know, explain why you were there,

00:29:45.840 what you were hoping to do, and just more broadly the point you were trying to make.

00:29:50.120 Yeah, well, thanks for inviting me on, Natalie.

00:29:53.540 This is a really important point, because Andrew Weissman is all of the things that you just said,

00:29:59.380 but it's far worse.

00:30:01.580 Weissman, I really first became aware of him because he was the FBI general counsel.

00:30:08.640 And the thing that's so strange is, you know, people see me chasing down him or Norm Eisen or Benjamin Wittes

00:30:15.960 and asking them about these seemingly complex things.

00:30:21.060 And it's, you know, I know about this not because I'm some kind of like legal genius or something like that.

00:30:27.020 I'm not a lawyer at all.

00:30:28.380 And I was a victim of lawfare.

00:30:31.500 And these are the practitioners.

00:30:33.880 This is the Get Trump squad.

00:30:36.680 And these are the guys doing lawfare.

00:30:39.340 And ladies, it's important for people to understand.

00:30:43.760 And I've only recently just come to understand this.

00:30:46.180 When you hear lawfare, you know, Trump has been saying it.

00:30:49.520 And we hear it, obviously, on your show and elsewhere.

00:30:52.800 This is not just a buzzword, you know.

00:30:55.520 It's not just like what's happened to Steve where, you know, political enemies get.

00:31:00.440 I mean, that is it, of course.

00:31:02.320 But it's certainly not limited to people just bringing lawsuits to drain your money in this and that.

00:31:07.440 Lawfare was codified by this guy, Charles Dunlop Jr.,

00:31:11.560 or at least he's largely attributed with having done that.

00:31:15.920 He is a retired major general from the Air Force, and he was a JAG officer.

00:31:20.680 He's a law professor now at Duke.

00:31:22.240 And he says that lawfare is a 21st century warfighting strategy to achieve political or military objectives.

00:31:31.920 And what's interesting is, you know, that practice has now kind of crossed over into civil litigation.

00:31:38.760 So I didn't know about it at all until I was subjected to it.

00:31:42.940 And that happened just through doing journalism.

00:31:46.340 But Andrew Weissman is connected to Benjamin Wittes and the Lawfare Institute.

00:31:52.500 And this whole plan that started with the Steele dossier and then graduated to this plan that involved somebody named Peter Smith,

00:32:01.540 tried to entrap Jerome Corsi, Charles Ortel, Roger Stone.

00:32:07.180 It's this whole thing that's been going on now for eight years and continues in court here with Juan Mershon.

00:32:14.740 People saw me yelling at Norm Eisen, yelling at Ben Wittes.

00:32:18.300 So what I was trying to do there with Andrew Weissman, I was asking him about this guy, Felix Sater.

00:32:25.300 And Sater is pretty important.

00:32:26.460 Felix Sater, he is a Russian kind of a real estate investor, and he was involved with Russian mafia money laundering schemes

00:32:38.180 through these boiler room type stockbroker deals and everything.

00:32:42.820 And my interest in him relative to that video was a cooperation agreement that Felix Sater signed with Andrew Weissman in 1998

00:32:53.160 when Andrew Weissman was the assistant U.S. attorney in charge of the Organized Crime Division

00:32:59.380 in the Eastern District of New York U.S. Attorney's Office.

00:33:04.020 And he had just taken over that position from a woman named Valerie Caproni.

00:33:08.200 That was where my interest began.

00:33:10.620 Valerie Caproni is a judge in the Southern District of New York today, 0.92

00:33:16.120 and she presided over several lawsuits that I was involved in.

00:33:20.440 And I've been sued something on the order of 24 times in the past eight years since I became a journalist.

00:33:26.520 People who watch my show, CrowdSource the Truth, on X, at JG underscore CSTT,

00:33:33.480 or elsewhere all over the Internet, may know that I previously had a career in Hollywood.

00:33:39.460 I was a cinematographer specialized in stereoscopic 3D and visual effects.

00:33:45.520 I've invented 3D camera systems and optical systems.

00:33:49.240 And when 3D sort of failed and I left Hollywood, I became a journalist.

00:33:54.320 And I just stumbled into all of this and became a victim of lawfare.

00:33:59.160 That's how I know about these people.

00:34:00.580 So Felix Sater was the only other client of an attorney that I had in a case that I allege was a case of lawfare,

00:34:08.980 brought against me for a variety of reasons that we could talk about.

00:34:12.720 But I've been running my mouth. I hope I've answered your question about Andrew Weissman.

00:34:16.700 And there's a lot I could say about Felix Sater and his relationship with Weissman.

00:34:22.760 No, sure. I'm just I'm curious.

00:34:25.480 In your estimation, and just give me a few minutes on this,

00:34:28.980 if Kamala Harris were to win, how much worse,

00:34:33.280 how much more do you think they would escalate their current lawfare assault on this country?

00:34:38.200 How much worse would it get?

00:34:41.580 You know, I think people don't yet have a clear understanding, most people, of how bad it is right now.

00:34:49.580 So I had a lawsuit against the city of New York.

00:34:53.120 I still have it.

00:34:54.440 And the judge is someone named Jessica GL Clark, who was appointed by Joe Biden,

00:35:00.680 who I think we would agree cheated to become the president.

00:35:03.720 So if Kamala Harris gets in there, I think we can expect more appointments like this. 1.00

00:35:09.240 And see, what I was alleging in that case, I had gone to Twitter on November 1st.

00:35:16.100 They had a New York office over here on 17th Street.

00:35:18.920 Five, six weeks before Matt Taibbi and Elon Musk released the Twitter files,

00:35:24.060 I went down to Twitter to tell Elon Musk that Valerie Caproni, this guy Adam Sharp,

00:35:31.580 and Barack Obama, I alleged, had installed the FBI into Twitter.

00:35:36.640 I wrote a whole entire report called The Twitter Coup that provides the evidence.

00:35:40.780 Remember, Valerie Caproni was the FBI general counsel from 2003 to 2011.

00:35:47.500 And this installation of the FBI, this violation of the Fourth Amendment,

00:35:52.720 the First Amendment into Twitter, I allege, happened around 2010.

00:35:57.780 Adam Sharp was an executive at Twitter.

00:36:00.100 He was the first U.S. government liaison.

00:36:03.040 He's personal friends with Barack Obama.

00:36:05.060 There's pictures of them in skiffs together.

00:36:08.540 Adam Sharp, I allege, and it's all reported in the Twitter Coup Report.

00:36:12.700 I allege Adam Sharp created at Barack Obama the Twitter account and helped Barack Obama win

00:36:18.980 the presidency in 2008 using social media.

00:36:23.040 That's all detailed in the Twitter Coup.

00:36:25.320 But I went to Twitter to tell Elon Musk, hey, there's a problem here with the FBI, etc.

00:36:30.700 And I got choked in the street.

00:36:33.240 I called the cops.

00:36:34.260 The whole thing led to a big lawsuit with cops.

00:36:36.300 But it's been dismissed because they said, oh, you know, Jason is just speculating that

00:36:41.460 this was a private security company that strangled him outside of Twitter and that the cops wrote

00:36:46.060 a ticket because this private security company is in some kind of screwy relationship with

00:36:50.800 the cops.

00:36:51.520 Now, what's happened?

00:36:52.540 Everybody in Eric Adams' administration is being dismissed.

00:36:55.360 Why?

00:36:56.100 In part because the police commissioner's brother was shaking down businesses and getting them

00:37:01.580 to hire private security firms.

00:37:04.000 So the FBI, in my estimation, was protecting this operation at Twitter.

00:37:11.460 The NYPD was protecting that.

00:37:13.860 Every day we're hearing about somebody else in the administration leaving.

00:37:17.740 So it's just blatant, the corruption, and it's only going to get worse under Kamala Harris 0.65

00:37:21.400 is the answer.

00:37:24.500 Jason, if people want to watch your show, follow you, where you get into this stuff in such

00:37:29.700 detail, I'm amazed.

00:37:31.780 Where can people go to do all that?

00:37:34.000 On X, they can find me at JG underscore CSTT.

00:37:39.380 And also you can go to odyssey.com slash at crowdsourced the truth.

00:37:43.680 Thank you so much for having me on.

00:37:45.220 I hope I didn't overwhelm you.

00:37:46.340 I know I talk a lot, but happy to share details about this if you ever have any more questions.

00:37:50.780 Not at all.

00:37:51.040 I survived reporting the Hunter Biden hard drive.

00:37:54.320 So I get how all this stuff is so complicated, but it's by design.

00:37:57.920 But thank you for distilling it.

00:37:59.160 And I know Stephen K.

00:38:00.160 Bannon, when he's out, I'm going to show him that video because it's wonderful.

00:38:04.040 So thank you for joining us.

00:38:06.040 Thanks.

00:38:08.460 Of course.

00:38:09.040 And speaking of lawfare, you know, all this stuff is global, too.

00:38:12.260 It's not just domestic.

00:38:13.340 There was a really concerning tweet from NATO.

00:38:18.620 Yeah, that one that I saw over the weekend that we can put up.

00:38:23.440 I'll read the text is non-kinetic activities like propaganda or disinformation are integral to cognitive warfare, carrying the potential for long term impacts on democratic societies.

00:38:33.900 NATO is educating and safeguarding its allies to protect core democratic values.

00:38:39.980 And that sounds like something that could have come right out of Jack Smith's office.

00:38:43.120 But what's more interesting, the picture that you guys just saw, it's an armed man, military garb with the United States Capitol and the American flag behind him.

00:38:54.740 A little too much predictive programming for me, if you ask.

00:38:59.180 We're joined now by Nora bin Laden, who I thought of bringing on the show. 0.97

00:39:02.840 So, Nora, if you could walk us through sort of your take on this whole cognitive warfare spin from NATO.

00:39:11.640 Great to be with you, Natalie, with pleasure.

00:39:14.340 Every time I see these tweets and these different propaganda pieces by NATO, I can't help but chuckle at the absolute level of gaslighting that they are, you know, engaging in.

00:39:29.360 And just looking at the document more in more detail in the accompanying video, I wanted to read one excerpt, if I may, on their website.

00:39:41.780 They talk about what is cognitive warfare and they have this to say, they say, cognitive warfare includes activities conducted in synchronization with other instruments of power to affect attitudes and behaviors by influencing, protecting or disrupting individual group or population level cognition to gain an advantage.

00:40:03.520 And, sorry, my screen blacked out, hold on, to gain an advantage over an adversary designed to modify perceptions of reality.

00:40:14.440 Whole of society, whole of society manipulation has become a new norm with human cognition shaping to be critical, a critical realm of warfare.

00:40:24.240 And, Natalie, the definition is absolutely correct, but what is very ironic is that NATO itself is a master in all of what they just described and have been since their very inception, as we've discussed on the show before.

00:40:42.660 And we cannot forget that NATO was deliberately created as the globalists' military arm engaging in such psychological warfare activities.

00:40:55.080 And if we zoom back a little bit, the point I'd like to make is that whatever is happening today, whenever we look at the news, whatever information is being presented to us, we absolutely always need to look at it through the lens of psychological warfare.

00:41:13.120 And I would say that we are really living in an intense era of psyop on psyop on psyop.

00:41:20.900 I would actually call it, you know, or label it the never-ending psyop.

00:41:25.740 And it's so intense.

00:41:28.120 And it started so long ago.

00:41:31.480 I mean, psychological warfare has been going on for millennia.

00:41:36.000 But I would say in its current form, we can definitely go back to the First World War, to Britain more specifically.

00:41:43.440 In 1914, when the prime minister, David Lloyd George, started the propaganda agency at Wellington House.

00:41:52.040 And so all of the techniques really were derived from that point of time and have only gotten more and more sophisticated since then.

00:42:00.420 And looking at what's happening in the United States in particular, with the country being targeted and attacked so strongly through many different, many different psyops, very real psyops with very real consequences and actual destruction and harm being inflicted on the population.

00:42:22.760 I would just like to reiterate that we really need to look at it through that lens.

00:42:27.680 And so if we take, for example, the current situation, dreadful, tragic situation with Hurricane Helene, you see that there is—

00:42:41.100 No, I'm going to hold you there because we've got to jump to break.

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00:44:12.560 I don't know.

00:44:17.020 Platforms, whether it's Facebook or Twitter X or Instagram or TikTok, whatever they are.

00:44:23.580 If they don't moderate and monitor the content, we lose total control.

00:44:29.720 And it's not just the social and psychological effects.

00:44:33.220 It's real harm.

00:44:34.100 oh how i desire a world where you lose total control we're going to be joined by norban 1.00

00:44:42.760 lawden to break that down in the hurricane response but real quick i just want to mention

00:44:46.820 that max evans um behind the account speaking of information warfare ultra maga party we've

00:44:53.200 learned that he passed away um yesterday so i just wanted to extend my thoughts my prayers

00:44:58.460 my condolences for someone who is such a patriot and a fighter i always admire um americans who you

00:45:04.880 know step up and get involved in this fight in some way shape or form he made those wonderful

00:45:08.820 videos that steve loved and would always play on air um a true citizen patriot you are deeply deeply

00:45:16.780 loved by the war room certainly not forgotten we'll maybe have to play some of his best clips to

00:45:22.620 commemorate the wonderful life of a wonderful patriot and a wonderful man norban lawden if you

00:45:26.980 could give us a few minutes um sort of where you were discussing before how you see this whole

00:45:33.320 global government sham rolling out i think most poignantly um with what's going on with the

00:45:38.880 hurricane response right now listen it's been incredibly um disheartening watching from over

00:45:46.940 here in switzerland what's going on in america with the aftermath of hurricane helene and the

00:45:53.420 destruction and obviously the absolute disaster of a response uh by the federal government although

00:46:00.220 i cannot say that i'm surprised because quite simply put uh the federal government and the

00:46:06.120 ruling class of america absolutely hates uh america and the american people and i would just say that

00:46:14.020 you know treason is not enough of a strong word to describe um what is going on in your country

00:46:21.580 and when you see all of the aid uh that is being sent overseas and the american people that are left

00:46:30.060 with just utter destruction um it's it's just sickening and um there's a reason you know why i call

00:46:38.160 these people a knows you know americans in name only those who are supposed uh to serve their own

00:46:45.440 people but they're that are actually uh harming and leaving them behind so uh just that's what i would

00:46:52.000 like to say about that and um and uh yeah just incredibly um sickening uh to see but this is this

00:47:02.040 is one of the aspects of what's going on with hurricane uh helene coming back to the aspect of

00:47:07.500 psychological warfare i think there's something also bigger going on here where they want to portray

00:47:12.060 um america as a ungovernable nation and an incapable nation on the world stage i think there's also an

00:47:22.140 element of that i think there's also an element of you know just pushing the population to the brink

00:47:27.980 um i've talked about this on the show before but i do see as part of a bigger picture um a operation

00:47:35.900 going on to goad um the population into a civil war uh in order to break down the country from within

00:47:42.580 or at least give the illusion of a civil war um and that's why you know they resort to such tactics as

00:47:49.620 fomenting fake insurrections and things of the sort you know false flag operations but um we can expect

00:47:56.380 more of uh of such events to to happen or to be weaponized in such a way to lead um the country in

00:48:05.420 that direction what they have subjected us to is far worse than any of the intolerable acts that the

00:48:14.880 great colonists of this wonderful country were ever put through quartering act uh included norban 1.00

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00:48:30.960 thank you very much natalie people can follow me on x norban laden my sub stack

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Bannon's War Room - October 07, 2024

Episode 3959： Treason Is An Understatement

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