Bannon's War Room - October 08, 2024


Episode 3960: Lies From The Southern Border; Updates Out Of North Carolina


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

167.37596

Word Count

9,308

Sentence Count

29

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

Kamala Harris's 60 Minutes interview with President Donald Trump on immigration and border security has been widely panned by the media. Is it a mistake to allow a flood of illegal immigrants to pour across the border into the United States, or is it a good thing?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to
00:00:09.680 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
00:00:16.260 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do
00:00:20.440 everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and
00:00:23.780 where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of
00:00:31.620 these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer
00:00:38.720 is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann
00:00:47.220 i've been covering the border for for years and so i know this is not a problem that started
00:00:58.480 with your administration correct but there was an historic flood of undocumented immigrants coming
00:01:07.940 across the border the first three years of your administration as a matter of fact arrivals
00:01:13.060 quadrupled from the last year of president trump was it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies
00:01:23.240 as much as you did it's a long-standing problem and solutions are at hand and from day one literally
00:01:32.200 we have been offering solutions what i was asking was was it a mistake to kind of allow that flood to
00:01:41.280 happen in the first place i think the policies that we have been proposing are about fixing a problem
00:01:48.720 not promoting a problem okay but the numbers did quadruple and the numbers today because of what we
00:01:55.380 have done we have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half which should we have done that
00:02:02.280 the flow of fentanyl by half but we need congress to be able to act to actually fix the problem
00:02:11.480 fixing the problem tuesday 8th of october anno domini 2024 harnell here at the helm filling in for
00:02:22.040 steve banner just watching that short video there it's absolutely clear i think objectively clear there is
00:02:27.260 something not right with that lady whether you know whether she's been before going on um the fact
00:02:35.500 that she can't answer a question without leaving her pre-prepared sound bites in any direction there is
00:02:41.840 something not right with that lady with that woman and it's abundantly clear no wonder they're trying to
00:02:46.600 keep her from um from having any in-depth interviews it will just become more and more apparent um tod
00:02:53.020 benjamin good morning thanks for coming on um to open the show with us today to talk about this 60
00:02:58.740 minutes interview look i want to ask you something okay yesterday um in axios they had um an article
00:03:06.600 called how harris is getting trumpy on immigration and it starts with this um this sentence donald trump
00:03:17.320 may lose the election but kamala harris is largely conceding he has won the argument on the border
00:03:24.620 um now what that means what that doesn't mean doesn't mean that the democrats are are becoming
00:03:32.560 maga uh it doesn't mean that they have any intention to do anything about the border what i think the
00:03:38.160 article is suggesting is that the democrats realize in their southern states uh they have a massive issue
00:03:45.100 uh with credibility uh with credibility with the people and they're trying to mask things obviously
00:03:49.640 sort of throw responsibility for the for for the crisis on the gop um they realize that it's an issue
00:03:57.720 and the american people aren't going to buy platitudes anymore todd benjamin tell me though if you
00:04:02.440 wouldn't mind um the access point that do you think um do you think kamala is largely conceding
00:04:10.520 that trump has won the argument on the border first off is axios right with their
00:04:15.000 analysis on that i've heard no language whatsoever uh concession language from the harris campaign at
00:04:23.800 all i haven't i don't think they're conceding anything they're just trying to dodge uh bullets
00:04:29.920 that are that are you know headed they're kill shots really um but let's listen there's a grand
00:04:37.320 canyon size credibility gap in what they're saying in their main campaign sloganeering which is
00:04:44.980 that on the one hand they're saying if only we had this piece of legislation this bipartisan piece
00:04:51.700 of legislation the lankford bill that they keep talking about we could fix this problem but then
00:04:57.740 there she was right on 60 minutes saying we already reduced it by half how many were coming in which is
00:05:03.820 true they have done that without any legislation they just simply had mexico close down their southern
00:05:12.140 border and trap all the immigrants down there and scoop them up on the north and ship them to the
00:05:16.940 south and hold them down there in a gaza strip that's all they needed to do it was a white house
00:05:23.180 fiat a piece of diplomacy that did just the 50 percent so everything and nobody's calling them on that well
00:05:31.700 what do you mean you need this lankford bill but then you reduced it with a wave of the wand by 50 percent
00:05:37.340 uh no nobody's saying any nobody's calling them out on that the other thing i'd want to point out is
00:05:43.360 that that there there is no mistake here the there is no incompetence here that administration the
00:05:52.280 biden administration campaigned on opening the border they said that they were going to do exactly what
00:05:59.640 they did the harris first campaign when she ran for in the primaries in 2019 2020 had a black and
00:06:10.060 white immigration platform that's still out there on the internet you can read it no deportation no
00:06:16.440 detention amnesty for everybody health care for everybody everything for everybody who comes across
00:06:22.860 the border etc it's cruel and unusual to make them remain in mexico or to do anything like that they
00:06:29.120 they they they were flat out what they were going to do and then did it
00:06:33.520 todd um i just want to synthesize what you're saying there to make sure i've got it right
00:06:40.340 so the the administration got these figures down from as 60 minutes mentioned the the quadruple numbers
00:06:47.680 that um that had accelerated exploded after the preceding trump administration but then they then
00:06:54.700 they got those figures down by half without needing any legislation whatsoever just simply using the
00:07:00.080 powers that that that that the federal government had anyway and pushing it through by white house fiat
00:07:06.120 um so that you're saying and this is important that explodes the the fact that they did that without any
00:07:12.360 new legislation explodes destroys the democrats arguments that the uh that the huge numbers that are still
00:07:20.000 there twice that i guess then um from from the preceding trump administration that cannot be the fault of
00:07:27.000 congress uh because the the white house already demonstrated its ability to tackle the issue without
00:07:33.580 any extra new legislation is that your point that's exactly my point and the trump administration did it
00:07:41.360 before the biden administration did it uh for the campaign there by the way i just want to point out that
00:07:48.500 that that by the time the biden harris administration got around to the mexico crackdown
00:07:54.600 deal the diplomacy from december of 2023 uh the shuttle diplomacy that they did that immediately resulted in
00:08:02.400 that that shutdown that that they they waited to do that uh for the campaign for the optics of the campaign
00:08:11.340 not because it was the right thing to do or a good thing to do or that americans and all these
00:08:18.280 big cities were complaining and being driven to the brink of bankruptcy in their cities but because
00:08:24.740 it looked terrible to have fox news drones flying over thousands and thousands of people coming
00:08:31.220 through now one other thing i want to point out is that it's not just the mexican crackdown
00:08:38.060 uh deal from december of 2023 it's also the flights program that they orchestrated where
00:08:46.160 instead of um people crossing illegally between ports of entry they can get on a plane anywhere in the
00:08:54.680 world and fly over the border right into u.s cities at least 650 000 came in that way and then another
00:09:03.360 half a million on the cbp1 app where they walk them over the bridges combined those things reduced the
00:09:11.040 look but there's still 1.4 million people that hit those american cities that flew directly into them
00:09:18.220 it wasn't greg abbott uh and his bussing it was the biden harris flights program and these other ones as
00:09:25.700 well harris has said publicly that she plans to double down on those programs if she wins election
00:09:33.220 will you tell the cities of denver chicago boston washington uh and all the rest of them springfield
00:09:41.480 that oh well they're still coming anyway they'll just come in and it's different other way that
00:09:46.480 where they don't get counted in the bad column uh and they're going to be just as pissed off
00:09:51.820 it's the number of people that are being allowed in not how they're getting in
00:09:57.460 absolutely um so so your so your point here um is that axios is wrong really there's there's no
00:10:07.180 trumpy uh emphasis on the the the positioning of how it how it's in this campaign well there there is
00:10:16.020 trumpianness in the sense that they tore the harris biden administration tore a page from the trump
00:10:23.600 playbook about mexico trump invented that whole thing he had the mexicans uh you know under a threat
00:10:31.980 of 28 progressive trade tariffs if you don't block them at your southern border and do all you can to
00:10:38.700 hem them in down there we're going to start hitting all of your exports with tariffs uh and they did it
00:10:45.280 uh the very first day of the biden harris administration they eliminated that threat of tariffs
00:10:52.280 uh asked the mexicans to kindly do it but the mexicans were like in no way man not anymore
00:10:58.060 and they just let them all through so something happened in the last uh eight months where i don't
00:11:05.820 know what the payoff was or the threat it's still a big state secret it's probably the biggest state
00:11:11.320 secret that there is uh about the the border what did the harris biden administration offer
00:11:17.820 or threatened the mexicans to do it this time but that is a trumpian policy they took it right from
00:11:24.760 trump's playbook on that one and it worked because it worked the first time it worked the second it'll
00:11:30.920 always work that will always work um bill whittaker uh the interviewer there in the 60 minutes um interview
00:11:39.880 asked kamala how it's explicitly he said because she tried to evade it what i was asking was was it a
00:11:46.880 mistake to uh to to kind of allow that flip to happen in the first place um and she wasn't able
00:11:54.160 to answer that question how do you think her inability to answer a simple question like that
00:11:59.900 in which the vast majority of people in all the key border states will know the answer because they're
00:12:04.900 living with the consequences of that mistake how do you think they will view her inability to confront
00:12:11.060 the reality of what her own administration has created well they say 60 minutes is the most watched
00:12:18.340 uh news program i don't know if it still is and whitaker did an admirable job i thought in pressing
00:12:24.580 her on this that was journalism that's that's what you're supposed to do but i think that the answer
00:12:31.640 from harris is predicated uh once again on her presumption that the american people are just stupid
00:12:38.880 uh that they're not going to be able to to divine that she's evading the question uh that she doesn't
00:12:47.600 want to answer the question and that that'll fly and i don't think it does fly it might have flown two
00:12:53.780 years ago but now all of these cities uh the people that live in them know exactly what's going on it's
00:13:01.080 all over their social media it's in their midst uh it's happening to their city budgets it's happening
00:13:07.440 in front of their faces you cannot look away in all of these cities so when they see what's happening
00:13:15.000 around them in their cities and then watch her answer like that i think that they understand i think
00:13:20.780 that that is the answer uh that they need to have her answer her non-answer is the answer actually it's
00:13:28.020 worth something and just in the final minute todd can you just give me your your um your corresponding
00:13:35.680 point of view with regards to the trump advance campaign do you think they're making enough of
00:13:39.640 this issue i think they're they're doing better than they were uh personally i never wanted to hear
00:13:46.840 about cats and dogs uh or uh and i wanted to hear more than just they're emptying their insane asylums
00:13:54.160 there's so much more that they could be talking about uh with with there's so much more good reporting
00:14:02.420 about the flights program about the cbp1 program about the fact that the panamanian government
00:14:09.000 has offered to close the darien gap and the american biden harris administration promised to
00:14:16.040 give them the money to do it and never sent the check uh rare opportunity to close the darien gap in
00:14:23.600 panama colombia and they're they're not doing it trump should be out there stumping on that uh and saying
00:14:30.260 where's the money uh there are lots of different you said yes 100 todd uh quickly 20 seconds where
00:14:38.340 do people go to stay up with your writings and your analysis on social media right well i work for the
00:14:44.620 center for immigration study cis.org you can find um a lot of my material there you can also go to
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00:16:15.640 welcome back let's go straight to north carolina now and katherine engelbrecht who's out there
00:16:25.240 and tell me katherine i can see you're you're out physically and i can see by the background tell me
00:16:30.580 where you are at the moment and what the weather conditions are with you right now i am in
00:16:36.460 hendersonville which is where we have uh kind of made our base camp you can hear a lot of sirens in
00:16:42.160 the background we will uh immediately after this interview start heading up into the mountains
00:16:46.860 and continuing the work that we started yesterday with what we're specifically here for
00:16:52.200 is um to help with we have a unique competency in citizen band radios that will help extend the
00:16:59.720 signal of star links and so that is desperately needed in certain connection points so we're up here
00:17:05.140 installing radios and boosting that signal but in addition working through with leadership here on
00:17:11.980 the ground working through what's happening in north carolina 11 which encompasses the most uh
00:17:16.960 the most of the damaged areas about 750 000 uh people total katherine what are you hearing on the ground
00:17:25.260 uh yesterday uh a judge a circuit judge in south neighboring south carolina ordered the deadline for
00:17:32.460 vote registration to be thrown back by eight days because of hurricane helene tell me what the
00:17:37.900 situation is in north carolina are you expecting um the folk there expecting any disturbances with the
00:17:44.560 electoral program that had already been laid out you know it is possible that they extended that
00:17:50.220 deadline here and i haven't heard about it what i did hear yesterday was a a bipartisan memo put out
00:17:56.060 uh and i heard about it that said that all the offices are open you we really see a a a stress and
00:18:03.820 and a intention towards making sure people feel confident that they are going to be able to cast
00:18:09.560 their votes and that is the common refrain i heard yesterday when people you know some people knew who
00:18:14.520 i was and they were they expressed that they wanted to be sure that they had an opportunity to cast their
00:18:19.740 vote and so the latter part of my trip these next few days will be working with leadership to
00:18:24.700 do all that we can to shore that up and make sure that every uh everybody every voter in western north
00:18:30.740 carolina has that opportunity to to have their vote uh count katherine could you tell me a little bit
00:18:37.060 about what those meetings uh will be like what sort of specific policies and provisions will you be
00:18:43.540 pushing for oh well for me uh i you know first of all we want to take take uh take heat of whatever
00:18:51.320 leadership has done and just augment that help to support uh whatever that needs to look like i mean it
00:18:57.020 could be it could be transportation it could just be outreach via fax and email um to those places that
00:19:04.060 are now getting communication it could be word of mouth and and what you know whatever unique tactics
00:19:09.700 need to be employed we're here to make sure that that happens and that we provide all the support they
00:19:14.660 need to get the vote out so i'm feeling good about it the spirits are are high here americans working
00:19:20.960 together citizen helping citizen it's really an amazing thing to see and there's a there's a just
00:19:28.660 a sense of patriotism that exudes morning till night and and our election's a big part of that
00:19:34.520 well uh true the vote is doing great work and right across america in terms of election integrity
00:19:42.460 what are and north carolina obviously is a key battleground state now um so forgive me if i ask you
00:19:50.840 what is being done right now um in terms of the electoral integrity issue to ensure that people
00:19:59.980 are actually going to be able to vote uh in north carolina they are they're doing all they can sorry
00:20:07.620 i know this is shaking a little bit in north carolina they're doing all they can to um smooth out that
00:20:13.740 process interesting side note when i first began discussing this the status on the ground with
00:20:21.780 leadership i was told that um they characterized rfk jr as having saved their election and the reason
00:20:28.180 that they said that was that because his he needed to be pulled from the ballot it delayed their process
00:20:34.760 in printing ballots and had that not occurred the ballots would have already been out the fact that
00:20:40.580 it hadn't occurred yet and had caused a bit of a delay meant that the ballots were located somewhere
00:20:45.680 that there was no damage to them and that was a great concern with you know i mean if the ballots
00:20:51.140 are damaged how are you going to make up that time it could be done but that would have to be something
00:20:55.740 you know straight away that you had to plan for so one less thing to be concerned about but the
00:21:01.560 resilient attitude here i mean i really feel like these people would walk across broken glass to make
00:21:06.500 sure that their vote is is you know counts and is counted and um yeah i mean after what i've seen
00:21:15.440 these last few days i am confident that anything that western north carolina sets its mind to do the
00:21:20.760 people here can do it and there are people from all over the country helping as well so we're going to
00:21:25.620 be okay here and then my next stop i'm leaving from here and going up to michigan uh where we are
00:21:30.780 working with dropbox monitoring and citizens who are involved there and of course that program is also
00:21:36.220 happening in wisconsin where we'll be live streaming the video so we have a lot going on our app vote
00:21:41.480 alert where people working in the elections or voters who have questions can contact us toll free 800
00:21:47.160 number to keep in touch and that's coming in handy now with people from these uh storm ravaged areas
00:21:54.120 reaching out so truly vote has a lot going on but we are extremely optimistic about the the pro-liberty
00:22:02.580 um voice that's coming through all of this you mentioned michigan just now katherine we're going
00:22:09.680 to actually begin we'll be hearing from ambassador huckstra the the gop chair there in michigan a
00:22:14.580 little later on in the show but staying one moment if i may with north carolina and i suppose many
00:22:21.840 people in the face of what is a national tragedy right of her companion um many people people will be
00:22:28.920 enthused and encouraged to hear that there is this bipartisan focus on ensuring that the elections
00:22:35.300 go ahead um and and that they are fair however just if i may channel ronald reagan's trust but verify
00:22:42.120 uh one slight moment are you satisfied because your your organization is one of the key organizations
00:22:48.620 in the country on voter integrity are you are you sitting here telling me that you're absolutely
00:22:53.920 satisfied that everything that needs to be done to ensure the votes in north carolina won't be
00:23:00.240 corrupted has been done and is being done uh i think it's i think is being done is certainly a fair
00:23:07.500 statement and i'm looking forward to discussions over these next few days to to really help get into
00:23:13.160 the more granular detail of the process and anything that needs to be augmented or shored up to the extent
00:23:19.460 that true the vote can do it we're here to do it i but the the willingness to work together and pull
00:23:25.960 together in these times though is remarkable it's really the best of america and it is a it is a
00:23:31.480 privilege to be among the people here at this time katherine engelbrook outstanding uh thanks very much
00:23:38.220 for coming on the show and i i hope you your family um stay safe in in the coming days in the meantime
00:23:44.700 um assuming you're gonna have social media connection oh i think thanks so much thank you
00:23:50.500 katherine i think i think we're losing her now and we'll get her socials up a little later um in the
00:23:57.000 shall we does that myself um let's move on now to the supreme court josh hammer um tell me there were a
00:24:06.520 couple of interesting articles up in politico and the new york times indicating that the supreme court
00:24:12.180 could have a key role to play in the next administration and of course behind that
00:24:17.980 therefore is always the lurking question of potential new nominations to the supreme court
00:24:23.580 tell me a bit why are these two august news organs on the left starting to get concerned
00:24:31.260 yeah ben always great to join you so this politico piece is is interesting because but before it talks
00:24:39.620 about the future of the supreme court the main focus of this article from josh gerstein who's
00:24:43.740 one of their main liberal journalists at politico josh gerstein was actually the the the editor
00:24:49.960 reporter who was behind the dobbs abortion leak going back to may of 2022 so he's a very well sourced
00:24:56.600 and i guess beltway connected dc insider when it comes to all to all things legal related and he
00:25:02.960 wrote a very a very lengthy piece perhaps an unusually lengthy piece for political magazine basically
00:25:07.900 laying out eight different ways that the u.s supreme court could potentially come back into the center
00:25:13.360 of this election cycle let alone what might happen if donald trump god willing retakes the white house
00:25:18.520 come january 2025 yeah i mean first let's zoom out a little bit here ben you have a lot of people on
00:25:25.000 the left that are already upset over the fact that the supreme court has gotten involved in certain ways
00:25:30.720 in the 2024 election so let's let's zoom out and just set the context here and what i mean by that
00:25:35.180 that you've had at least three cases you had the colorado case that was the case trump versus
00:25:41.540 anderson where they tried to remove him from the ballot you have the trump immunity case that was
00:25:45.760 trump versus united states then you have the fisher case pertain to the sarbanes oxley act where they
00:25:50.100 were trying to invoke this corporate fraud statute to prosecute j6ers a lot of liberals behind the
00:25:55.160 scenes that not so behind the scenes actually have been freaking out that the supreme court has waded
00:25:59.280 into these presidential election affecting issues and the basic response to that is i mean you guys
00:26:05.340 brought this on yourselves did you not i mean did you did you really not think for example that when
00:26:10.660 you tried to deprive donald trump of ballot access in colorado under a ridiculous bespoke 14th amendment
00:26:18.380 section three insurrection clause theory did you really not think that the supreme court was going
00:26:23.000 to get involved in that same thing with the unprecedented law fair from so-called special counsel jack smith i
00:26:28.360 love calling him so-called special counsel jack smith because as judge aileen cannon in florida health
00:26:32.920 he's actually been illegitimately appointed he's not a real special counsel but when he started doing
00:26:37.060 his thing did you guys really not think that the supreme court was going to get involved and try to
00:26:40.760 establish some limits on presidential immunity here so now they have this whole framing that okay
00:26:45.680 scotus has really affected the election already how many additional ways can they possibly get
00:26:50.460 involved here and you know look here i guess my response to that is scotus from my perspective ben
00:26:56.160 actually did not properly get involved in the contested aftermath of the 2020 election they
00:27:01.500 failed to grant cert they failed to hear some very important cases out of pennsylvania in particular the
00:27:06.420 big question is will they do so now josh stand by back in two minutes with a massive tax hikes proposed
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00:29:04.980 stephen k band welcome back josh hammer before you carry on with what you're saying just a quick
00:29:15.740 question did you um see the news that the supreme court declined to intervene on this case regarding x
00:29:22.500 and the these um these non-disclosures these enforced non-disclosures on behalf of the social
00:29:28.680 media platforms that they're not allowed to alert clients when there's a an order released to to
00:29:35.260 share data did you see that no i i bet i i you know honestly i've not had a chance to to review that
00:29:42.080 yet but i look i'm not i'm not surprised i mean when we look at what the supreme court did in the
00:29:46.320 murphy versus missouri case just a couple months ago where they essentially punted murphy versus missouri
00:29:51.080 was the case where you saw a big government and big tech being in just totally complete collusion
00:29:55.860 to suppress so-called distant voices when it came to the hunter biden laptop story when it came to
00:30:01.140 coven 19 masking vaccine all of the above there they they also effectively punted on on on two
00:30:08.180 excellent laws that were passed by the states of florida and texas when it came to trying to apply
00:30:12.340 common carrier regulation it's a common sense non-discrimination principle so the supreme court
00:30:17.600 unfortunately has basically done big tech's bidding for for a wild bend so i'm hardly surprised
00:30:22.420 that that string of losses for we the people and that string of victories for big tech continues
00:30:27.020 unabated it seems and i flag it up because it seems to me to be illustrative on the general theme
00:30:33.420 of what you've been saying already about some of these issues as you say you use these words literally
00:30:37.680 are being punted to a future case i saw that x's lawyers had said that this issue is simply not going
00:30:43.820 to go away and it will require the supreme court to intervene at some point even if not on this issue
00:30:49.840 this issue was about the president about president trump himself um and jack smith what was your
00:30:55.400 formulation for jack smith the um the supposed special prosecutor um who'd gone in uh with a
00:31:02.560 court order to get some of president trump's private messages and his dms and to use these in the case
00:31:09.380 that he's constructed trump's uh lawyers and x by the way x themselves um have appealed this because
00:31:17.120 they said um this is all part of the fact that the government right now the feds can go to the
00:31:22.480 social media platforms with an order that prevents uh users from knowing that the government has been
00:31:28.940 snooping through your messages there are clear privacy issues here um and x's lawyers said this
00:31:34.300 issue is not going to go away at some point the supreme court will need to intervene even if it
00:31:39.080 doesn't want to intervene on this specific case tell me um back onto the theme of what you're you're
00:31:44.560 talking about uh with regards to the forthcoming administration are we expecting any judicial
00:31:50.320 um appointments being made to the supreme court over the next four years yeah i i think that there
00:31:57.840 is a a very high likelihood that there will be personnel changes at the nation's highest core frankly
00:32:03.040 regardless of who wins the presidency but especially if donald trump wins the presidency i think you're
00:32:07.060 looking at the likely retirements if i had to guess of justices clarence thomas and or sam alita which
00:32:14.480 on the one hand is scary because those are our two best justices pretty much by far in my personal
00:32:20.400 opinion but you know they nonetheless are are now getting up there in age and it makes sense they
00:32:25.460 would want to retire under a sympathetic administration and you know the the positive
00:32:30.140 side of the ledger is that there's really no shortage there's no shortage of younger judges who
00:32:35.660 are faithful to the constitution and and perhaps just as important who who are brave and courageous
00:32:40.720 and willing and indeed outright eager to do the right thing you know i'll put in a shameless plug
00:32:45.680 for my own former boss so i actually clerked on the u.s court appeals for the fifth circuit the the
00:32:49.920 texas louisiana mississippi appellate court and i was one of the first four law clerks for for judge
00:32:54.640 jim ho who was one of president donald trump's first fifth circuit appointees judge ho has been an absolute
00:33:00.640 rock star on the fifth circuit he has written any number of prolific opinions vindicating the the rights of
00:33:07.440 texas to secure its borders vindicating a second amendment gun rights aboard pro-life laws i mean
00:33:13.820 i i could go on and on here but you know judge ho is not an anomaly there's actually a a great number
00:33:19.360 of lower court judges who were nominated confirmed by president trump and to his credit mitch mcconnell
00:33:24.780 and the senate republicans back during the trump administration so there is a great farm team right
00:33:29.300 now potential judges who might be elevated to the nation's highest courts and you know who knows you
00:33:34.320 know in addition to justices alito and or thomas maybe we'll get lucky you know maybe chief justice
00:33:39.280 john roberts who frankly doesn't seem to like his job a whole lot these days i mean maybe he will kind
00:33:44.460 of you know have one of those you know wake up moments and decide that he wants to hang up the spikes
00:33:50.220 so to so to speak as well that would be terrific because we can replace roberts with with a young
00:33:54.620 eager and courageous conservative on the court that would be a clear net improvement on scotus
00:33:59.240 and on the other side of the divide of course josh if the democrats win um they get to nominate uh nine
00:34:07.380 new justices in accordance with carmen harris's desire to to increase the democrats desire generally
00:34:14.040 to increase the the bench the the supreme court to 18 justices so they'll be making uh appointments one
00:34:21.160 after the other josh before uh before you go your social media contacts your your superb podcast where do
00:34:27.860 people go to to keep track with your output yeah thanks so much ben so i'm on x josh underscore
00:34:33.880 hammer instagram is josh b hammer i host two shows the josh hammer show in america on trial with josh
00:34:39.920 hammer wherever you get your podcast then i'm also senior counsel for the article three project we're
00:34:44.060 up at article three project.org superb many thanks for coming on the show catch up again with you soon
00:34:50.160 god bless god bless now joined down by the down the line by ambassador pete hoekstra the chair of the
00:34:58.620 michigan gop ambassador hoekstra i gather you're en route to go in here jd vance in your state um
00:35:06.020 but before you tell me uh about that about what you're expecting to hear um tell me about this
00:35:13.380 recent legal victory uh that michigan has clocked up with regards to the postal ballots
00:35:19.180 yeah it wasn't excuse me it wasn't that long ago that our secretary of state said you know and told
00:35:26.520 instructed our clerks around the state saying you know when you get uh absentee ballots back just assume
00:35:35.560 that the ballot is legitimate you don't really need to check the signature with the signatures that
00:35:43.740 you have on file to validate the abs just assume that it is a valid ballot well of course uh that's
00:35:51.520 not in compliance with the law the law says very clearly as a county clerk as a clerk in the state
00:35:57.960 of michigan you have a responsibility when an absentee ballot comes in that you shake a look at the
00:36:06.680 signature on the ballot and that you verify it with the signature that you have on file and uh so we
00:36:15.260 took uh we took our secretary of state to court uh and not surprisingly the court ruled yep the secretary
00:36:24.720 of state and the clerks need to follow the letter of the law and they have to verify the signature so
00:36:32.380 that was a big win for the republican national committee and the state party the ones that had
00:36:38.000 brought suit against jocelyn benson it was uh fantastic news and i congratulate all of you there
00:36:45.620 in michigan and the rnc for clocking it up i i wonder whether it will have knock-on effects
00:36:50.260 in other states and that have um similarly flexible rules guidelines um when it comes to ballot
00:36:59.580 verification um tell me then so so jd vance is in michigan what what do you what tell me about the
00:37:06.480 clouds that are building up uh and the momentum and what are you expecting to hear from him today
00:37:10.780 well i mean uh you know we basically see jd vance or donald trump three times per week here in the
00:37:18.540 state of michigan uh this is a little bit of an off week they're only coming here uh you know jd
00:37:24.020 jd has the event today donald trump will be speaking to the detroit economic club uh on
00:37:29.980 thursday but uh you know it's a uh hey michigan is is the battleground state and we're thrilled
00:37:37.400 and what you know jd vance and donald trump both do is they come here and they talk about
00:37:42.000 the economic future of michigan and the economic future for michiganders and they talk about you know
00:37:49.500 how we're going to get inflation under control how we're going to grow this economy how we are going
00:37:55.220 to rebuild the auto industry here in michigan not by partnering with china uh but by investing in
00:38:03.680 our auto workers and our our industry and that you know we're going to let michiganders
00:38:11.040 and the rest of america choose what kind of car they want to buy not telling them you've got to buy
00:38:18.340 an electric vehicle that is not ready for prime time and uh you know voters in michigan are
00:38:24.540 resonating we're connecting with union workers we're connecting with more black voters we're
00:38:30.600 connecting with more uh ethnic voters uh we're building a lot of momentum and i'm very very
00:38:36.680 optimistic that michigan is going to be in the republican column when we when we're done counting
00:38:42.740 votes on november 5th well there are 15 electoral college votes in play here in michigan those are
00:38:49.340 pretty going to be pretty important tell me that the mainstream media is giving indications
00:38:53.720 that the magic from the trump campaign has gone the crowds at the rallies are diminishing and is this
00:39:00.640 your personal experience of what you're seeing especially in a key battleground state like michigan
00:39:05.600 no i mean you know i i try to uh welcome the president or jd vance at uh at every event that
00:39:14.000 they have whether it's a rally or some other format uh the enthusiasm is there the lines are there
00:39:20.460 uh you know people when they go to a trump rally or a jd vance rally it's clear they're making a
00:39:27.060 commitment for the day you know they'll show up three to four hours before the event begins
00:39:32.200 uh they go in there is uh they'll be in the venue for probably an hour hour and a half uh then there
00:39:40.320 will be a pre-program there'll be another half hour wait and then uh the principal whether it's jd or
00:39:46.640 the president will come out and we'll typically uh talk with the audience for you know an hour
00:39:53.980 70 minutes uh jd will typically engage with the media he'll talk with the audience for you know 30
00:40:01.780 minutes and then he'll say okay now we're going to take questions from the local media and the crowd
00:40:07.020 loves it all right uh because it gives them an opportunity to express their feelings about certain
00:40:14.320 media outlets and networks and so you know if uh a hostile network uh you know is announces themselves
00:40:23.900 and says we've got a question uh you know they uh they receive the appropriate uh greeting if uh if
00:40:31.680 it's a more friendly network or whatever they'll receive a different type of greeting and the crowd
00:40:36.620 really loves to be involved in that give and take between jd vance and the reporters
00:40:42.660 ambassador hockstroke we've got about a minute left i know that uh early voting begins on the 25th
00:40:50.340 of this month could you just uh just give me a quick word what what you want what you expect
00:40:55.720 uh supporters to do who are following the war what can they do to help in the in the remaining
00:41:00.460 couple of weeks of this campaign well right now uh michiganders are already voting my wife and i we voted
00:41:07.280 yesterday we had uh absentee ballots uh the early voting you're right begins later this month what we
00:41:14.200 want we want people to vote early uh we want them to uh to go vote and then we want them to go out and
00:41:21.340 hustle their neighbors and friends uh to make sure that they go vote we've got a lot of folks in
00:41:27.920 michigan that we think are prime trump opportunities who are not registered whether uh it's people of
00:41:34.200 faith whether it's gun owners or those types of things uh you know register to vote uh get out to
00:41:41.340 vote and get your friends and we've got a very very active campaign with the trump team the michigan
00:41:47.100 republican party other organizations right now chasing down votes uh and getting people to vote
00:41:54.420 and to vote early perfect ambassador hocks just stay on the line uh just and we'll close this hit off in
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00:44:10.960 welcome back to ambassador hockstra where do people go in michigan right now if they want to attend
00:44:21.600 the rally with jd later on today well the uh actually they can show up at the uh event uh you know
00:44:31.500 they go through the metal detectors they could said eastern market in uh downtown detroit the uh
00:44:37.220 i think the gates are probably opening uh right around 11 11 30 uh the event uh jd is expected to speak
00:44:45.900 at around two o'clock so they're welcome to come to the event they don't even have to uh uh they don't
00:44:51.400 have to register uh they can come in uh and that venue once again in detroit where is it
00:44:58.360 ambassador i just lost you for a minute i didn't hear the question i'm sorry ben
00:45:09.480 the the the venue once again in detroit where is it uh it it's eastern market eastern market perfect
00:45:17.660 yep and before you before you go ambassador where do people go to stay in touch with your own output
00:45:23.420 on social media uh they go right to uh the migop they can go to uh michigan republican party and they
00:45:30.620 can find out about all of our events and uh those types of things on that location they can sign up
00:45:36.780 uh for our you know text messages and emails because you know donald trump and jd vance have
00:45:42.880 been here multiple times and we expect to see them here every week between now and election day and
00:45:50.620 we'd love to have folks turn out and come and give uh the president and jd a warm welcome a warm
00:45:56.800 michigan welcome so um yes they can sign up at our uh on our website perfect ambassador hogsford thanks
00:46:04.520 very much hope you have a great rally there a later day and uh catch up again we won't we'll have a
00:46:10.760 great afternoon hey thank you thank you god bless for now um okay so jenny beth martin the the founder
00:46:19.400 president of tea party patriots joins us now jenny beth i can't keep up with uh with where you are i
00:46:26.440 think you're in wisconsin right now um but you were telling me you're going to be in michigan
00:46:31.500 you're going to nevada you're going to north carolina if you can um hurricane permitting
00:46:37.640 um tell me what what what are you finding out on the ground what the momentum's like what the
00:46:42.600 sentiment is like and then i want to ask you once again about this incredible new app that you've
00:46:48.080 developed and because i think it could be a game changer well thank you so much for having me on ben
00:46:52.880 and i i've been to arizona also to montana then uh to pennsylvania and michigan last week today i'm
00:47:03.400 in wisconsin we were we're going to be in north carolina later this week but we've put that on
00:47:08.240 hold because of what's going on with the hurricane next week we should be in nevada and we're hoping
00:47:14.040 so to get to to north carolina before the before the end of the election and then of course our office
00:47:20.560 is in georgia what i'm i'm meeting with grassroots people and i'm rolling out the app which i will
00:47:25.680 talk to you about in a minute but what i'm seeing is that there is a lot of momentum and a lot of
00:47:32.080 support for donald trump around all of these states and in arizona i saw just boatloads of trump support
00:47:41.780 and yard signs and and other other items just like as you're driving by when you're listening to
00:47:47.540 people talk in restaurants and and uh hotels and other places i saw that same kind of thing
00:47:54.900 in pennsylvania but as we get into the bigger cities like inside of pittsburgh inside of philadelphia
00:48:02.000 there is definitely support for kamala harris in the bigger cities in detroit they are so enthusiastic
00:48:10.040 about donald trump and and they are working hard to register people to vote the enthusiasm is almost
00:48:17.160 contagious because people are so excited about the opportunity that they have in michigan
00:48:22.200 some of the states are going to be a little bit easier probably for donald trump to win than others
00:48:28.040 but it's not going to be a cakewalk in any of these states the country is still very sharply divided
00:48:34.360 and i there are people who will vote republican just because it's a republican and people who will vote
00:48:41.480 democrat just because it's democrat we saw that with joe biden we saw that with katie hobbs in arizona
00:48:47.720 two years ago and we're seeing that again right now with kamala harris the democrats just want a person
00:48:54.600 and it doesn't even really matter what they say or what they stand for in some in with a lot of democrat
00:49:00.840 voters so that means we have to do every single thing that we can where voter registration is still
00:49:07.720 open to register people to vote mail-in ballots are going out pretty much everywhere at this point so
00:49:13.800 people who've requested mail-in ballots it's our job to make sure they've received those ballots and
00:49:19.800 then that they are actually voting and returning returning their ballots and then as early voting starts
00:49:26.200 it begins tomorrow in arizona next tuesday in georgia later in the week next week it moves to north
00:49:34.200 carolina then you have on i've got a list in front of me north carolina is the 17th nevada is the 19th of
00:49:41.320 october and then the 22nd is wisconsin and the 26th is michigan so people who want to vote early in person
00:49:49.560 do everything you can to get them to go ahead and vote early vote on that first day what we don't
00:49:55.080 want is the kind of problems that arizona had last year on election day that wound up resulting in long
00:50:02.040 lines and some people leaving so we just need to make sure people are voting that trump supporters
00:50:07.560 are voting and that everyone that we know who are our friends and family are voting and then if you are
00:50:13.080 in a swing state or willing to drive to a swing state or fly to a swing state there are people going
00:50:19.400 door to door and every single one of them whether it's a trump campaign my super pack tea pretty
00:50:24.920 patriot citizens fund turning point action america first works heritage sentinels there are people
00:50:30.440 out walking door to door in all of these states and it's important that we're doing everything we can
00:50:36.760 to go chase these votes and make sure people vote uh jenny bet hold on after this short break and tell
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