On today's show, Stephen K. Bannon and Natalie G. Winters discuss Bob Woodward's new book, "Fear: Trump in the White House" and why Christopher Steele should not be allowed to give softball interviews to the Washington Post.
00:02:08.860But I'm going to humbly say, hell no, but it's very interesting.
00:02:15.040Christopher Steele, you guys, of course, know him of the whole fusion GPS Hillary Clinton, kind of the – I'd call him the architect of the Russia collusion scandal, but that gives him too much credit.
00:02:26.280He's more like the useful idiot or maybe the cannon fodder.
00:02:30.960But I want to read a quote in this piece where they go on and on and on about how Trump is still an agent of Russian disinformation.
00:02:39.280Honestly, it's getting kind of old, but I'll read this quote.
00:02:41.660Now, just a note to all of our betters, including the Christopher Steele's.
00:03:11.660If you're going to try to roll out, you know, the tell-all books, I'm looking at you, Bob Woodward, Christopher Steele, you know, the entirety of the MSNBC Lawfare Brigade.
00:03:21.720When you indict President Trump so many times, you put him on trial, you convict him, you raid his house in Mar-a-Lago, you sort of lose the moral high ground to call these books tell-all books because you guys have sort of already dug in and gotten all the evidence that you quite possibly could have, yet you keep coming up short.
00:03:41.320Right? It's kind of like when Al Gore waxes on about, you know, climate change.
00:03:46.620It's an existential threat. It's going to kill us all.
00:03:48.960Yeah, that's like Jack Smith when he keeps talking about democracy.
00:03:54.440Yet we wouldn't need to defend democracy if you guys stopped attacking it.
00:04:00.800Right? It used to be, oh, if someone from the government comes to your door to try to help you, that's the worst thing you can hear.
00:04:06.100Now it's if you hear someone from the government or the mainstream media saying that they want to defend democracy, that's about the worst thing that you can hear.
00:04:16.360Now, let me just add real quick that Christopher Steele should not be giving softball interviews to the Washington Post, plugging his new probably atrocious book.
00:04:27.500He should be sitting in a prison cell, right?
00:04:29.860But I guess there's an interesting convergence there and said it's Stephen K. Bannon, who's sitting in prison.
00:04:36.620But then he goes on to write a very long form Newsweek op-ed.
00:04:41.480Quote, I'm behind the Trump-Russia dossier.
00:04:44.160We gave the FBI more than people know.
00:04:48.620He goes on and on saying that, again, Trump is still an asset, an agent of Russia.
00:04:53.120And the best part is that he uses the article to actually brag that he's doing better than ever and that his business is doing better than ever because they have a bunch of new clients in the banking, insurance, and pharma industries.
00:05:10.360Now, bro, I know you want to brag and look like you're Mr. Tough Guy and that you're doing great, but maybe you don't want to prove that actually the whole, I don't know what we call it here in the war, the cabal of all these converging interests that's trying to get Trump.
00:05:26.460Maybe you shouldn't admit out loud that they actually love what you're doing against President Trump and your lies about Russia collusion, so much so that they're giving you business.
00:05:35.420Because it's certainly not based off your business acumen, because last time I checked, your stupid dossier wasn't even published by the New York Times, by CNN.
00:05:48.020Yeah, next to probably a quiz for, like, teenage girl readers about what character they'd be in a Harry Potter movie.
00:05:55.880That's some real hard-hitting journalism.
00:06:01.100You know, I know the left loves to say, you know, my body, my choice.
00:06:05.200Well, how about this, Christopher Steele?
00:06:07.860My body, my choice when it comes to your horrible propaganda narratives about Russia collusion, because we're not falling for it again, not that we ever did.
00:06:18.940This, of course, coming on the heels of the 165-page Jack Smith filing being dropped.
00:06:23.540Now, in the news cycle, we can put up the New York Times article of Bob Woodward being rolled out, up to his same old tricks.
00:06:30.360And that is that President Trump secretly stayed in contact with Putin.
00:06:37.120They allege that he had, what, seven or so phone calls with Putin after leaving office.
00:06:41.760Now, the Trump campaign absolutely denies this allegation.
00:06:45.900But I would still say, even if those phone calls actually happened, at least President Trump was probably more likely to put America and Americans first on those phone calls instead of trying to find ways to further escalate the Ukraine conflict into hitting nuclear war.
00:07:01.400And the other thing that President Trump allegedly did, per Bob Woodward, you'll love this.
00:07:08.980He shipped Vladimir Putin COVID tests.
00:07:11.800I think the mainstream media, the same mainstream media that is in meltdown over that, I think they're going to lose it when they find out what Hunter Biden received from the Chinese Communist Party, from Ukraine.
00:07:28.940Oh, right, from the Moscow mayor, from Iraq.
00:07:45.640We know we hear so much about DEI and affirmative action hiring.
00:07:49.260I love that they're still banking their election interference efforts on two old white dudes.
00:07:55.140Maybe we need some more diversity in the election interference apparatus of the Harris campaign.
00:08:02.180But it's very clear that something is extremely rotten with the intel agencies here and, of course, their overseas partners.
00:08:11.200So much so that I want to bring up a very interesting story published partly by Miranda Devine over at the New York Post, which tells the story of an individual by the name of Dr. Joseph Mine.
00:08:23.560He was about 10 feet away from President Trump when he was shot at the original Butler rally.
00:08:34.020He was one of the witnesses that Secret Service detained just to ask.
00:08:37.660He had video footage on his phone that they wanted to go through.
00:08:40.460And he says when he first got there, he witnessed a, quote, call between a Secret Service agent and a supervisor where she downplayed the assassination attempt and that Trump was unharmed.
00:08:51.240Then Dr. Joseph Mine stepped in and said, corrected her and said, well, actually, President Trump was harmed.
00:09:17.940You don't understand that that podium is armored.
00:09:20.620When the Secret Service tackled President Trump, he hit his head on the podium.
00:09:25.940In other words, the gut reaction was that President Trump's lying and he wasn't shot.
00:09:31.100Now, that's quite interesting and curious, coming from the same intel community apparatus who has never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity to tell us that democracy is under attack.
00:09:45.940And I would think that an attempted assassination of a former president and presidential candidate would fit that narrative quite nicely.
00:09:59.900And even Christopher Wray, when he was testifying in the Senate, even he said, well, actually, we don't know if he was just grazed by a bullet.
00:10:13.620You know, the only original sin of the Trump administration that has brought on this onslaught of lawfare was President Trump daring to put Americans first.
00:10:25.060And you see it on full display with what's happening right now when it comes to the hurricane response in North Carolina and all things FEMA.
00:10:34.340Now, the director of FEMA is in full on meltdown mode and, of course, aided and abetted by the mainstream media, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden.
00:10:44.700But she's saying that they have never seen so much disinformation.
00:10:51.060Well, it's not disinformation that your agency is categorically, systematically deprioritizing the lives and the needs of Americans.
00:11:03.960It's not disinformation that you guys loaned $750 to each American while on the same day you announced an additional $157 million to Lebanon.
00:11:17.220And on October 2nd, as Americans were getting pummeled by Hurricane Helene, you guys announced an additional $237 million to Ukraine for storm preparation.
00:11:31.660Ukrainians will receive, quote, preparedness aid ahead of winter as well as food, shelter, health and protection assistance.
00:11:37.580Emergency medical teams and vital water and sanitation systems are also being set as if the, what, $183 billion weren't enough.
00:11:48.160You know, it's quite funny because in all of this, you know, charade of how much they hate the disinformation that's coming out about their flood response.
00:11:58.820I haven't seen a single American citizen on any mainstream media outlet.
00:12:06.520Saying that the response has been great.
00:12:09.400The only things that I've heard from the American people who live in Western North Carolina and Tennessee and Georgia is that it's been absolutely extraordinary.
00:12:25.780But the point is that they can't because there's no one who believes that.
00:12:29.520So instead, they're stuck using idiots like Liz Cheney and Olivia Troy to say that what you guys are spreading is disinformation.
00:12:39.800Now, I don't know about you, but the same people who have no qualms and are the first people to saber rattle to get more Americans killed in endless foreign wars that have nothing to do with the national security of this country.
00:12:54.540If not, they just exacerbate it and make it worse.
00:12:56.800They have blood on their hands for that.
00:12:58.800I don't think I'm going to let them be the adjudicators of what is an actually sufficient response when it comes to protecting American lives.
00:13:08.720These are the same people that think the Afghanistan withdrawal was a success.
00:13:12.540So I guess by that measure, what's going on in North Carolina with FEMA is a glowing success.
00:13:21.780I think it's called victim blaming when you accuse the Americans on the ground who have the courage to expose how atrocious your hurricane response efforts have been.
00:13:32.440Funnily enough, Christopher Steele actually admits that in the long form Newsweek piece.
00:13:45.720He says sometimes disinformation is true.
00:13:49.360It's like, well, I guess you would know, sir.
00:13:51.280You would definitely know the answer to that.
00:13:52.660And it's quite funny because when Tim Waltz lies, right, about being in Tiananmen Square, that's not disinformation, right?
00:14:03.420Yeah, I wish those idiots, those knuckleheads would care as much to give Americans safety and sanctuary as they would propping up sanctuary cities across this great country and defending the rights and livelihoods of illegal aliens and importing nation building level numbers of foreign populations into this country.
00:14:29.880With the same funds that they should have been using to clean up after storms and help American citizens.
00:14:42.400And that's why you guys are slipping in the polls.
00:14:45.000So all the Woodwards and Christopher Steeles that you want to roll out, it's not going to change the uncomfortable fact that the American people, they don't like what you're selling at all.
00:14:58.300We'll be right back after this short break.
00:16:25.360We are joined now by Steve Friend, former FBI agent.
00:16:29.580I'm sure you know him as one of the brave whistleblowers that worked with Congress to help expose what I think is the problem that this new New York Post piece by Miranda Devine so brilliantly articulates.
00:16:42.180Steve, I'd love if you could just sort of walk us through, I mean, how patently absurd the actions taken by these various agents were when it comes to wanting to downplay the assassination attempt against President Trump.
00:16:57.140And I think it reveals a mindset that has crept into federal law enforcement writ large, and that is they've gotten away from their prime directive.
00:17:04.180And that prime directive is you follow the process.
00:17:07.560The process is itself the victory for a law enforcement agency.
00:17:12.180A crime happens, the police investigate, the prosecutors prosecute, and then there's either a conviction or an acquittal, and the case is closed.
00:17:20.640The victory is not in the win at trial.
00:17:23.500It's just that you follow the process.
00:17:24.920If you lose at trial, it's just because the facts that you gather did not support a conviction.
00:17:29.240But now what we're seeing here is a Secret Service and an FBI who are happy to put their thumb or their entire arm on the scale and influence witnesses to one of the worst crimes that we've seen in recent memory because they wanted to drive a narrative.
00:17:44.860They're interested in outcomes and not the process.
00:17:47.660That is not in keeping with the heritage of traditional American law enforcement.
00:17:51.800That's more in long lines of something like the Cheka or the Stasi or the KGB, these agencies that are hellbent on driving a political narrative forward, the teeth on the attack dog, the weaponized apparatchiks for the ruling regime.
00:18:05.960Well, and speaking of driving narratives forward, it seems like those same individuals are now in part the people behind this new narrative, you know, that Iran or that these foreign entities are out to get President Trump.
00:18:18.840I'm just curious, your perspective, if you think, again, though not mutually exclusive, but where you think some of the largest threats, you know, emanating against or rather towards President Trump, where you think they're coming from?
00:18:31.200Is it more likely Iran or is it more likely our own intel community?
00:18:34.520I think that the clear threat is our own intel community.
00:18:38.760I mean, if I told you nothing else other than this, that the FBI meddled in the last two and now the third presidential election by taking a fake dossier to open up a fake counterintelligence investigation, open up illegal FISA wiretaps, and then subsequently use that to impede President Trump during his first administration.
00:18:56.120And then in the 2020 election, use those fake and illegal FISA wiretaps to learn about the Hunter Biden laptop and go to social media companies to encourage them to censor that information, which they actually had in their possession.
00:19:14.840This whole foreign actors bit is I think a lot of it is the cosplay, the law enforcement slash national security cosplay that the FBI loves to do where they post about things on their social media.
00:19:26.140They issue press releases about threats to the homeland and that they're up against it.
00:19:30.720But if you actually read into it and you don't have to read that far, maybe paragraph two or three, you find out that they're indicting members of the Iranian guard who are in Iran doing Iranian things or members of the Russian media who are on television in Russia speaking in Russian.
00:19:47.500But they're being indicted never to be extradited or arrested.
00:19:51.120It's just let's get the headline and set the narrative.
00:19:53.140We want the narrative to be Russia, Russia, Russia, and we're pushing back on Iranian threats because it keeps with this other narrative, the individual that they brought in, this gentleman merchant who they entrapped into this terrorism scheme where they facilitated his arrival.
00:20:08.120They actually paroled him into the country because they said he was a terrorism subject, but they didn't arrest him.
00:20:13.080They actually allowed him for several months to operate in New York where he had a plan, allegedly, to recruit assassins at nightclubs and then get dozens of people to orchestrate fake protests, pay another woman to infiltrate elected officials' private residences and steal classified information they just happened to have lying around, and then ultimately get assassins to kill multiple U.S. politicians all for the low, low price of $5,000.
00:20:38.040It's laughable on his face, but the FBI is basically doing the ATF fast and furious, but instead of letting guns walk across the border so that you could claim the later when they were used in the crimes and say, look at all the great work we're doing, they're importing would-be terrorists who never really had the means motive or opportunity to carry out that attack so they can get the narrative.
00:20:57.200You've got the Senate Democrat Intel chair calling for more censorship ahead of the election on misinformation and disinformation.
00:21:05.540Adam Schiff doing the rounds on the Sunday shows calling for, again, more censorship when it comes to all things election.
00:21:12.460We're already hearing calls for CISA, everyone's favorite DHS kind of agency, to similarly ramp up their election censorship efforts.
00:21:20.540I'm curious how you think, as we get closer to this election, the FBI is going to, or their various kind of deep state subcontractors, but ramp up these various efforts to sort of control the narrative as we barrel towards November 5th.
00:21:37.360They are all in on that, and look, they have the air cover from the Supreme Court.
00:21:41.980Amy Barrett, the author of the decision in Murthy v. Missouri, says that the FBI can work with social media companies to root out foreign malign influence.
00:21:52.720Well, it's up to the FBI, and the FBI loves their caveat.
00:21:56.380The caveat is that we do not investigate First Amendment protected activity, but they know the hacks around that, and they use all their levers at their disposal to do that.
00:22:05.140I mean, you take something like Christian nationalism, this narrative.
00:22:09.100Well, it doesn't matter if you are a Christian.
00:22:11.640The FBI will launder information from institutes like the Public Religion Research Institute that says that 30% to 40% of Americans are potentially Christian nationalists.
00:22:21.980And even though they might hold these ideas in their head, and they could be black or Hispanic or Asian or white, they're all refracted through white supremacy.
00:22:29.960Ergo, the FBI can investigate you for racially motivated violent extremism, domestic terrorism, for going to church.
00:22:38.460And the best thing about that for them, from their perspective, is the overlap of something like Christian nationalism corresponds very nicely with having a preference for Donald Trump for president.
00:22:47.280Steve, if people want to follow you, I know you guys have a great podcast.
00:23:03.300You can always follow me on X at Real Steve Friend.
00:23:06.500I have the American Radicals podcast on Rumble every Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday, and also host a show called The Morning Post on X, 8 o'clock each morning in all time zones.
00:23:16.660We relay it so that you can always wake up and find out about the news of the day.
00:23:22.240Steve Friend, thank you for joining us at True Patriot.
00:25:19.820Wait, that's not election interference because he's for you?
00:25:25.340Boy, that's a room temperature IQ if I've ever seen one.
00:25:28.620But that aside, it's quite interesting because it's a stunning admission to put what Elon Musk is doing on par with what Mark Zuckerberg did.
00:25:38.460Because that's essentially saying that Mark Zuckerberg, who masquerades as an independent and I believe recently told House Judiciary in a letter, I never did anything to help the Democrats.
00:25:47.020Well, it's quite interesting to put what they're doing on the same playing field, right?
00:26:08.220But even putting that aside, all of those voices who were so intent on, you know, preserving and protecting election administration, where the heck have they been when it comes to North Carolina and Georgia voting?
00:26:24.060Oh, wait, they haven't been anywhere because it's MAGA districts and they don't care.
00:27:08.960We got Kane, Citizen Free Press, and everyone else.
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00:29:41.960It's Natalie G. Winters, still hosting, unfortunately for me at least, from Washington, D.C.,
00:29:48.060where we always say the politicians here are keen not just on putting America last, but frankly, it's America never.
00:29:55.440And you see that on full display when it comes to economic policy.
00:29:58.780There were some, shall we say, buried leads in the latest jobs report and that the number of people working multiple jobs in the United States hit 8.66 million in September.
00:32:03.960And we're feeling the effects of that as the working class Americans going out there and having to really graft just to keep our heads above water.
00:34:47.320I wanted to bring him on to sort of give us a redux on all things polling, the latest with, you know, ballot requests and all the swing states, since I know, Kane, you have your thumb, your finger on the pulse of all of that.
00:35:00.840So why don't you hit us with the latest when it comes to polling averages, at least as of today, October 8th?
00:35:07.120Yeah, Natalie, you know, I'm glad you took an extra 15 seconds with that introduction because I was posting another story in the stack.
00:35:15.820When you started, Charlie Kirk had just texted me.
00:35:18.900He had a huge event at the University of Nevada, Reno today.
00:35:22.540And if people want to check it out, he's got four little videos in a tweet right now that he just posted on his Twitter account, Charlie Kirk Twitter.
00:35:31.300So, you know, as we kind of glide into polling, a lot, you know, polling is sort of dovetails with registration, right?
00:35:39.160And one of the great things that TPUSA and Charlie have been doing is getting students registered in these swing states.
00:35:46.340We saw in 2020 with the actual victory margins so small in a couple of these states, you know, I'm not sure how many,
00:35:55.540but I think I've read that Arizona has more than 100,000 out-of-state students.
00:36:00.400I imagine Nevada probably has at least 50,000.
00:36:04.280Certainly Pennsylvania with Penn State, University of Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh, and all the colleges in Pennsylvania, there's probably another 100,000.
00:36:14.420And I know Scott Pressler is working hard there.
00:36:17.680So, as I said, registration of new voters, you know, kind of dovetails with the polling.
00:38:06.340New York Times also found Trump leading by six in Texas, which is the same amount he won by in 2020.
00:38:14.160Separately, in the last half hour, there's a great Twitter account if people want to follow it.
00:38:20.100It's called Interactive Polls, and they do nothing but aggregate polls.
00:38:24.360And they've got a bunch of new stuff here in the last couple hours.
00:38:27.760There's Trump leading by six in Texas.
00:38:30.360So they confirmed that New York Times number.
00:38:32.500But they show Ted Cruz only leading by three over his Democrat opponent, Al Red.
00:38:40.100And we also – something else that's interesting is Dave McCormick.
00:38:43.780This is what I'll close with and throw it back to you, Natalie, that Dave McCormick has now, for the second poll in a row, been within the margin of error in Pennsylvania in the Pennsylvania Senate race against Bob Casey.
00:38:55.940So this poll is 45 for McCormick, 47 for Casey.
00:39:00.880So there's some good news out there, and there's some momentum.
00:39:03.500Wait, I promised I would send it back.
00:39:07.080In the stack, you've got Mark Halperin, who's got some great sources.
00:39:11.120It's about a two-minute clip of him saying that a lot of Republican insiders are starting to feel like Pennsylvania is going to go our way.
00:39:19.160And as you know, if Pennsylvania goes for us and we win Georgia and North Carolina, it's over.
00:39:24.420We don't need to win Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, or Nevada.
00:39:29.120So with that, I'll throw it back to you.
00:39:36.160But to pivot slightly, perhaps, the pretext as to why we're seeing these polling numbers, everyone knows you're updating the stack 24-7, 365.
00:39:46.120But when it comes to the hurricane response, particularly what we're seeing in North Carolina under Kamala Harris, I'm curious if it's a fair charge for, as the mainstream media says, MAGA world to be accusing them of butchering the handling of crisis response when it comes specifically to Hurricane Helene.
00:40:05.980Or are we just spreading disinformation?
00:40:28.720And Republicans, let's be honest, we've been waiting for our opportunity to show sort of how Democrats and, you know, for anyone to claim that we're making a big deal, we have sourced out.
00:40:39.920Multiple independent investigations have sourced out how over a billion dollars, depending upon how you define the funding, over a billion dollars of DHS FEMA funds.
00:40:51.260DHS is the overriding organization for FEMA, that those funds have gone for, well, you know, essentially to house illegals, to take care of illegals, food, clothing.
00:41:01.120We found that there's a story, I'm sure, I think you probably talked about it, $4 billion in FEMA funds going to COVID.
00:41:08.720And that is in the most recent fiscal year.
00:41:10.900And the last thing I'll end with is the inspector general, this was in a tweet that I've got in the stack today, the inspector general of DHS found $7 billion of unspent money right now within sort of FEMA budget at DHS.
00:41:26.300So there, you know, this whole thing about having to come to Congress for $20 billion more, it's a joke.
00:41:31.780And, Cain, just give me a minute, I'm curious, your thoughts, if you think the storm impacting voting in Western North Carolina, how you think that's going to play out, even though officials have said they're going to change the laws a bit?
00:41:45.800They announced today there was an emergency, or actually it was yesterday, an emergency order from North Carolina State Elections Board allowing, they're switching precincts for people, they're allowing more early voting.
00:41:56.720So I've been worried about this, as you know, Natalie, I put a headline or two in the stack about it, what effect is it going to have on the Trump voter.
00:42:03.340But here's something I saw, there are currently only 21, and look, these are 21,000 lives that have been greatly impacted, but there are only 21,000 who are currently homeless in North Carolina because of the storm.
00:42:16.220So I think overall the numbers, by the time we get there, I'm starting to feel slightly more comfortable with it.
00:42:22.540But I was worried because North Carolina mountains that, you know, Asheville is obviously super liberal votes Democrat, but outside of Asheville and in that broader area, you know, those are all Trump voters.
00:42:33.380So it's a great question, but I'm feeling slightly more confident.
00:42:38.040And Cain, hang with us through the break.
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00:44:49.920I just want your reaction to that clip we just played and just the, I think, botched is an understatement, but the 60 Minutes interview, too.
00:45:36.480There is internal polling from Wisconsin that shows Kamala losing by three.
00:45:41.200And this is Democrat internal polling from Tammy Baldwin.
00:45:45.040And I think, you know, there was also a clip you probably saw in the stack last week where J.D. Vance was saying that he's being told by reporters that the Kamala campaign has told him that their internal numbers—excuse me, have told the reporters that their internal numbers aren't that good.
00:46:01.680So we're starting to sort of get little bits that perhaps this oversampling that goes on in these polling and polling forecasts, that it might be not matching up with the internal numbers.
00:46:15.700And that could explain sort of, you know, a lot of her behavior.
00:46:21.000Now, that's—you know, I don't remember the second part of your question because I was just—I was so stunned by that clip today when I first saw it.
00:46:33.700Well, tell you what, Kane, since you've been hard to book lately and you need to keep coming back on the show because the audience loves you, I'm not going to tell you what my second—what the second part of the question was.
00:46:43.400I'm going to make you come back soon to answer it.
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00:48:58.600She let in 21 million illegal aliens from all over the world, from prisons and jails and mental institutions at levels we've never seen before.
00:49:06.020And this is maybe the worst thing in the whole, that nobody talks to fake news, won't mention it.
00:49:10.360She lost more than 325,000 migrant children, probably never to be seen again, never to see their parents.
00:49:16.340It's one of the number one things that have opened eyes.
00:49:21.480It makes no sense why they would give those, the parts and stuff, shut them down and give away the resources to people that came to our country illegal.
00:49:43.240Yeah, well, we, everybody, like this was, particularly when I was in the DNC when I shaved off my mustache.
00:49:49.660But one of the big things we did there was we interviewed Democrats, and we were doing it in cities across the country that voted for Biden that now are voting for Donald Trump.
00:50:02.100We're gonna do it all the way up to the election, and we're having their soundbites of what they say, their reasons why they're not voting for Biden or not voting for Harris now and voting for Donald Trump.
00:50:12.060And then we're having a problem, and then we have a solution by Donald Trump talking and what he's saying he's gonna do to solve that problem.