Bannon's War Room - Episode 3987： Rise Of World War Three

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,

00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:11.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:19.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:22.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:26.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul,

00:00:30.000 I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:33.000 Ask yourself,

00:00:34.000 what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country,

00:00:40.000 this country will be saved.

00:00:43.000 War Room.

00:00:44.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:53.000 You're in the War Room with Brian Kennedy,

00:00:57.000 sitting in for Stephen K. Bannon,

00:01:00.000 political prisoner of the Biden-Harris regime.

00:01:03.000 This hour, we are going to turn to strategic affairs.

00:01:06.000 Last hour, we talked a lot about the election.

00:01:09.000 We may talk about it some this hour, too.

00:01:12.000 But for this first segment,

00:01:14.000 we wanted to have someone who was a strategic thinker par excellence.

00:01:18.000 I've known Chuck DeVore for many, many years.

00:01:21.000 Today, he's at the Texas Public Policy Foundation,

00:01:25.000 where he is the chief national initiatives officer.

00:01:29.000 He has written a brilliant piece on foxnews.com,

00:01:34.000 where he has examined this drone swarm that occurred in Langley Air Base in Virginia.

00:01:43.000 It happened late last year.

00:01:45.000 There was not much spoken of about it, but it is a scandal of epic proportions.

00:01:50.000 And Chuck, could you could you give us some insights into what you what you found in that basically a drone attack on the United States?

00:02:01.000 Well, Brian, this is very disturbing.

00:02:04.000 First of all, it only just came out in the Wall Street Journal last weekend.

00:02:09.000 So basically, what, 10 months after the incursions started on Pearl Harbor Day, December 7th, 2023,

00:02:19.000 they went for 17 straight nights.

00:02:22.000 Some of the drones were as large as 20 feet long.

00:02:26.000 Eyewitnesses described seeing smaller quadcopters coming off of the drones and hovering low to the ground.

00:02:34.000 And while this was happening, this was transmitted up to the Biden White House.

00:02:38.000 Biden probably got a daily briefing about it within days.

00:02:42.000 So let's say, you know, December 8th.

00:02:44.000 The White House, Brian, took 17 days to discuss and to dwaddle, to deal with different suggestions to take these drones down,

00:02:54.000 all of which were shot down metaphorically as being potentially too risky.

00:02:59.000 It might put civilians at risk.

00:03:01.000 The Coast Guard was queried, said, hey, we have these nets.

00:03:04.000 We could try to take them down.

00:03:06.000 No, no, no, you don't have authorization for that.

00:03:08.000 They inspected one offshore vessel that was within a very close to the coast.

00:03:15.000 They took it apart, couldn't find anything.

00:03:17.000 But there were other offshore vessels that belonged to the Chinese that were not inspected.

00:03:22.000 At the end of the day, Brian, these incursions just stopped.

00:03:25.000 And Brian, Langley Air Force Base is the home of the Air Combat Command.

00:03:31.000 It's also home to a very large percentage of America's F-22 stealth interceptor aircraft, a type of aircraft that Barack Obama stopped the production line of it.

00:03:43.000 We don't even make them anymore.

00:03:44.000 And so these drones could have damaged that very valuable and rare equipment.

00:03:53.000 Yeah, no, it really is kind of shocking.

00:03:56.000 Everyone needs to understand when we say drones, this is a nation state kind of operation.

00:04:01.000 Right, Chuck?

00:04:02.000 I mean, this could not be a collection of amateurs doing this.

00:04:07.000 No, no.

00:04:08.000 First of all, these were night operations, right?

00:04:11.000 So you're having this happen at night.

00:04:14.000 And some of these drones are as large as 20 feet long.

00:04:17.000 These are not the sorts of things that civilians have access to.

00:04:21.000 Now, at the end of this swarm, they did arrest one young Chinese national who had a small quadcopter that he was using to take pictures of nearby Norfolk Air Force Base.

00:04:34.000 I think this guy, frankly, is a sacrificial lamb because the sort of drone he was operating and the sort of thing he was doing was not at all even remotely to the level that we saw with this action.

00:04:48.000 Now, Brian, a couple of months earlier, we now find out in that Wall Street Journal article that there was a similar drone incursion into a nuclear testing range out near Las Vegas.

00:05:01.000 And again, four days, nothing happened with that.

00:05:05.000 Brian, since I wrote the article, I've now found out from former administration officials a couple more breaking developments that we have seen drone overflights now over the homes of the FBI agents who were investigating the drone incursions.

00:05:24.000 Number one and number two, a drone was brought down just in the last few days on the border with Mexico.

00:05:32.000 Now, this drone is a commercial drone that was made in China, has significant modifications to it.

00:05:38.580 It's one of the smaller drones.

00:05:40.080 But this marks, I think, one of the very first times, if not the first time, that a drug and human trafficking cartel has been brought down.

00:05:48.000 Now, Brian, we have the ability to bring these drones down.

00:05:51.000 It's just not being used, and the Department of Homeland Security under Secretary Mayorkas has only allowed two of the more sophisticated anti-drone teams to even be created and manned.

00:06:04.140 And the problem is, is that it takes them so long to decide to deploy them and so long to get to the sites of these intrusions that by the time they get these special teams there, the drone incursions stop, and then they go elsewhere in the nation.

00:06:19.360 So I believe 99.5% likelihood this is the People's Republic of China doing this.

00:06:25.920 The only other nation state with the capability and the desire to do this would be Russia.

00:06:30.720 But I don't think it's the Russians.

00:06:31.880 I think it's the Chinese.

00:06:32.760 And the thing is, as you well know, the Chinese Communist Party operates under the Leninist principle that you probe with bayonets.

00:06:41.680 If you encounter mush, you continue.

00:06:43.880 If you encounter steel, you withdraw.

00:06:46.460 And under the Biden-Harris administration, they're encountering nothing but mush.

00:06:54.120 Yes, no, that's very well said, Chuck.

00:06:56.360 Do you think that's an – if we found for sure – and again, you say 99.5%, I mean that's virtually 100%.

00:07:05.060 Is this an act of war by communist China?

00:07:08.820 I mean we've experienced – please go ahead.

00:07:13.440 Yeah, so this is espionage, it's surveillance, it's spying.

00:07:21.220 We don't know of any damage yet.

00:07:23.120 So this is somewhat akin to satellites and air-breathing reconnaissance aircraft.

00:07:31.340 Now, we can shoot them down legally, right?

00:07:36.080 That's perfectly acceptable.

00:07:37.760 They're over our territory.

00:07:39.140 They're in our airspace. 1.00

00:07:40.500 We should shoot them down. 0.98

00:07:42.000 And if there is any collateral damage, it is the Chinese's fault. 1.00

00:07:46.240 It's not the fault of us for securing our airspace.

00:07:49.800 And by the way, Brian, one of the things that was very disturbing to me in the Wall Street Journal article that appeared, like I said, last weekend, was that they cite this law that supposedly prevented the military from acting.

00:08:05.440 And it was the – I think it was like the 2018 Aerial Defense Act or something like an Aerial Object Defense Act.

00:08:14.500 And it gives to the attorney general and the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security supposedly this authority to decide whether to take drones down if they pose what is called an imminent threat.

00:08:27.040 Now, I may be just a retired lieutenant colonel, and maybe I wasn't paying that much attention when I went through my command and general staff college.

00:08:35.280 But pretty much every military member, whether you're an officer or a noncommissioned officer, you know your chain of command.

00:08:44.420 Your chain of command goes up through your officers to the secretary of defense, and eventually the last person is the president of the United States, the commander-in-chief.

00:08:52.940 Nowhere in that chain of command is the attorney general or the secretary of homeland security.

00:08:57.240 And I know for a fact that if you are a base commander, you have authority under Department of Defense regulations – some of them are classified depending on the base – as well as authority inherent in that position to defend your base.

00:09:14.160 And if there are unknown flying objects over your base that are within very short distances to very valuable equipment or personnel, you have the inherent authority to defend your base.

00:09:27.860 You don't have to seek authority from the attorney general or from the secretary of homeland security.

00:09:35.300 And I think what we're seeing, Brian, is emblematic of what's happened in our government over the last couple of decades where increasingly large numbers of attorneys in government are telling people, no, you can't do this.

00:09:49.160 You can't do that.

00:09:49.960 This is too risky.

00:09:50.880 This could violate this rule or law.

00:09:52.680 Now, Brian, we have to cut through this.

00:09:55.560 We have to allow our military members, our warriors, to be warriors and not somehow think that they need to go mother may I to a brainstorming session in the White House for 17 straight days with a bunch of attorneys saying, no, you can't act.

00:10:14.720 You can't use a directed energy weapon.

00:10:17.180 Maybe it will harm a civilian aircraft during Christmastime traffic.

00:10:21.500 By the way, completely bogus concern, that wouldn't have happened.

00:10:27.940 Right.

00:10:28.720 Now, look, I think that's very important, Chuck, what you just said.

00:10:33.500 I mean, to underscore that, any of those drones could have held, you know, that collection of them could have had explosive devices, charges, some weapons within them that could have destroyed those F-22 fighters, F-22 Raptors.

00:10:50.800 I believe they were.

00:10:52.540 And it's those F-22s that are part of the NORAD system to defend North America, but specifically Washington, D.C.

00:11:01.220 Correct.

00:11:01.640 And so when the Biden-Harris administration heard about this, it should have been in their own self-interest to make sure that those drones were destroyed immediately to defend our government.

00:11:13.060 And that didn't happen.

00:11:14.720 Let me say quickly as an aside, I was just in Michigan giving a talk on national security.

00:11:22.800 I know you were yesterday down in Texas.

00:11:25.100 And in my remarks, I was talking about all these different Chinese threats. 1.00

00:11:31.860 One of the sheriffs who was there defending his county, Oakland County, I believe, in Michigan, he said that there are so many restrictions on shooting down drones that next week he's going to defend, have to defend and protect Kamala Harris, who's campaigning in Oakland County.

00:11:53.560 And later next week, Donald Trump, he said, if there are drones flying over either one of those events, his people do not have authority to shoot down those drones.

00:12:04.180 So there's a kind of almost suicidal nature to how the American government is operating these days.

00:12:11.780 And the sheriff thought, of course, it was nonsensical and there's some threat to either Harris or to President Trump.

00:12:18.660 He's going to do something about it.

00:12:20.140 But that doesn't mean that our country today is operating with the kind of common sense it needs to.

00:12:26.520 And so, you know, what you're seeing today, you know, make sense of what I'm describing.

00:12:34.180 Well, I mean, it's it is very difficult to make sense.

00:12:38.780 But I think that one of the things that we can trace it back to is if you go back to the 1990s, to the Clinton Gore administration and this whole idea of reinventing government, we did shed a lot of government employees, especially out of the Department of Defense civilian cadre.

00:12:55.820 But what we did, Brian, is we hired several million people that we basically outsource more of the blue collar and more of the middle management functions to corporations.

00:13:06.260 And during that time, the number of people in the federal government with advanced degrees, with with law degrees went up significantly as a share of the overall workforce.

00:13:19.560 And so I think what's begun to happen to our federal workforce is we're like this muscle bound man on Venice Beach in California, you know, the these muscles on top of muscles, but they're not able to do basic tasks.

00:13:34.560 They're not they're not they're not athletic. They're not able to to to to react to things.

00:13:40.360 And that's what we're beginning to see is we the administrative state is increasingly bound, almost like Gulliver by the Lilliputians with the with thousands of ropes preventing action by by saying, no, you can't do that.

00:13:55.000 There's rules and regulations and there's risk involved in all. It's this zero risk tolerance that we're beginning to see beginning, of course, that has spread into the military now where you have this zero defect, zero risk idea among the military officers who are supposed to be risk takers.

00:14:14.880 They're supposed to understand how to take calculated risks in their jobs. And so I think that's what we're beginning to see.

00:14:21.940 And of course, you put on top of that the Biden Harris attitude. They don't want to provoke anything with China, Brian, because at this point, this many days before the election, if it came out to the average American voter,

00:14:35.820 that the People's Republic of China have been flying significant drones over American sensitive military installations on top of the spy balloon incident that we saw last year, I think that would that would not go well for them.

00:14:54.760 Yeah, I totally agree, Chuck. Can I hold you over just for a few minutes, Chuck, on the other?

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00:16:19.880 Action, action, action.

00:16:21.520 Action is about something sacred and about our safety and about our freedom.

00:16:28.640 And unfortunately, some policy debates and, you know, some positions and opinions are not for today.

00:16:41.200 I mean, it's unfortunate.

00:16:43.420 Nobody wants that.

00:16:44.520 Nobody wants that more than Morning Joe, which was supposed to be and was created as sort of an island of civility and a sea of shrill voices where both sides could hash out issues they disagree on.

00:16:59.580 And yet this campaign seems to be about something else.

00:17:03.840 Am I right?

00:17:04.660 And if so, can you explain?

00:17:07.580 Of course.

00:17:08.180 And thank you so much for that.

00:17:09.780 And, of course, in an America where we all come to the table of democracy as equals and we all respect each other, we can and should have vigorous debates about policy.

00:17:18.800 What should the size of them?

00:17:20.220 What should the tax code look like?

00:17:22.580 You know, do you favor trickle-down economics or do you favor building from the bottom up in the middle out?

00:17:28.280 And the contrast could not be starker between the two campaigns.

00:17:31.180 However, there is something much more important at stake right now, and that's democracy itself.

00:17:36.680 And the ability of us as Americans to actually enjoy the freedoms that the Constitution bestows upon us.

00:17:42.940 So the thing that has not changed since Donald Trump came down that elevator, although he's gotten much better at being bad, is that Donald Trump is unfit for the presidency.

00:17:52.640 Now, if you don't believe in Democrats or you don't believe the mainstream media or you don't believe Fox, that's okay.

00:17:58.080 Donald Trump himself picked people to work for him at the highest reaches who know more about our national security than anybody.

00:18:05.480 So when you have a General Milley or you have a General Mattis or you have a Mark Esper or you have a John Kelly, these are all men that Donald Trump picked.

00:18:13.740 He picked them to beat him who are now telling us to please be careful because Donald Trump is actually using power to help himself and to hurt his enemies and is unfit.

00:18:24.480 Besides the fact that he seems a little bit out of whack the last couple of months, as you can tell, that is a red flag that the people of America should pay attention to.

00:18:33.160 Now, I am a political opponent of Donald Trump, so I take very seriously and I take literally his threats to hurt his political enemies because I stand against him, as does President Clinton.

00:18:42.920 As I don't think we can take any more of that clip, anytime I hear that President Trump picked people to serve for him and that then they somehow turned on him, it doesn't call into question so much President Trump's judgment as the judgment of the men who swore a note to defend this Constitution and don't seem to be doing it by being in effect treasonous in their lack of fidelity to the president.

00:19:12.360 And it also shows the power of the deep state before before we went to break, we had Chuck DeVore from the Texas Public Policy Foundation.

00:19:23.480 Chuck's a strategic thinker of the first order, I imagine, in a next Trump administration, meaning next January.

00:19:33.800 Someone like Chuck, if not Chuck himself, is going to be a senior person in a Trump administration.

00:19:39.720 And he's exactly the kind of person you would need working in the Pentagon.

00:19:44.520 He's worked in the Pentagon before, and President Trump needs someone like him and him again.

00:19:50.880 Chuck, tell us in closing a bit about your work at the Texas Public Policy Foundation and your social media coordinates.

00:19:59.640 Well, great.

00:19:59.960 Thanks, Brian.

00:20:00.600 So the Texas Public Policy Foundation is the largest state-based think tank in the country.

00:20:04.860 We're about 110 people now.

00:20:07.660 I deal with the initiatives that are mostly outside of Texas.

00:20:12.860 So this includes energy.

00:20:14.540 It includes election integrity.

00:20:17.080 It includes a public interest law firm that sues the federal government.

00:20:21.580 So it's almost 50 people that do great work around the country.

00:20:26.220 It's a real honor and a blessing to have that opportunity.

00:20:28.820 I'm a senior contributor at the Federalist, so you'll find a lot of my work there.

00:20:33.540 In fact, I had a piece there this morning about how if you want to see what the future of America would be like under Kamala Harris, you only have to look as far as California, because those are the policies she's going to bring with her.

00:20:46.240 I write a lot at Fox News.

00:20:49.100 I have a pieces on the Daily Caller as well.

00:20:52.600 And you can find me on X at Chuck DeVore.

00:20:57.600 So pretty much post everything that I write there every day and stay pretty active on social media, but especially on X.

00:21:08.260 Well, thank you, Chuck, and thank you for all you're doing and your leadership around the country.

00:21:13.720 If we save this country, it will be with men like you.

00:21:16.340 So thank you, Chuck.

00:21:17.900 Great to have you on the show today.

00:21:19.420 Thank you, Chuck.

00:21:49.420 Thank you for being with us here today.

00:21:52.140 You have a recent piece up, I know, in Epoch Times about what is going on in Taiwan.

00:21:57.280 Could you fill us in on that?

00:21:59.820 Sure, Brian.

00:22:00.520 Pleased to.

00:22:01.160 And wonderful to join you.

00:22:03.220 The piece in Epoch Times was a call to recognize the bravery of William Lai, the president of Taiwan, who was elected in January and came into office a few months later.

00:22:14.920 And what William Lai has done is to call out the lies of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:22:20.440 He said that really the Republic of China is the and should be the leader of China.

00:22:31.060 It was the Chinese Communist Party who came years afterwards, coming to power in 1949, when the Republic of China was founded in 1912.

00:22:41.800 William Lai has also just simply refused to accept the tutelage, right?

00:22:48.400 The superiority or the domination of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:22:54.460 And so he's an expert at political warfare.

00:22:57.100 And he's chosen to call attention to the lies of the Chinese Communist Party, which too often are repeated by people in American foreign policy community and around the world.

00:23:09.960 So he really is a hero for doing what he's doing.

00:23:14.280 And the fact that the Chinese Communist Party recently, that is this week, conducted a military exercise joint, SOAR 2024B, against him shows that he's doing what he should be doing. 0.78

00:23:29.620 He's calling attention to the lies of the Chinese Communist Party, refusing to accept them.

00:23:35.180 And he's really making an appeal, Brian, although not directly.

00:23:40.080 He's making an appeal for the recognition of the strategic realities of the 21st century, which is Taiwan is an independent nation.

00:23:49.140 It should be recognized as such.

00:23:51.380 It's critically important for the global economy through chip production, as well as having a formidable economy on its own right, to say nothing of the chip production.

00:24:01.740 It's a very important geostrategic space and should be a key military ally of the United States in conjunction with other allies that we have in the Indo-Pacific and partners also in the Indo-Pacific.

00:24:18.100 But fundamentally, Taiwan shows what China can be. 0.53

00:24:24.040 It shows that Taiwan shows that China can be a democracy.

00:24:29.580 It can have a stable democratic government.

00:24:32.920 And because of that, the Chinese Communist Party targets him, targets Taiwan, of course, and William Lai in particular, and his political party for ever-increasing coercive measures.

00:24:45.580 And we should anticipate that those coercive measures are going to increase and that they may occur in the near term.

00:24:53.740 These coercive measures are getting worse.

00:24:56.300 They're becoming more frequent.

00:24:58.140 And the violations of Taiwanese air and sea space are occurring with great regularity.

00:25:02.860 No, no, they are.

00:25:07.000 And the mere fact that William Lai is doing these things and saying these things with Joe Biden as the president, who is not likely to come to their aid, shows just how courageous he is.

00:25:18.440 But, Brad, the whole show I've been sort of assuming that President Trump is going to win.

00:25:24.420 He's ahead in all the polls.

00:25:26.140 You can feel the energy on the ground.

00:25:28.040 And so I'm assuming there's going to be a Trump presidency in January, and President Trump will need your vision of how to defend Taiwan in those early parts of the administration.

00:25:40.720 Could you articulate over the next minute or so a beginning of such a strategy to defend Taiwan?

00:25:48.940 Well, certainly, it involves having a robust conventional and nuclear deterrent on and around Taiwan.

00:25:59.900 It requires reversing the neglect of the Biden administration for the U.S. Navy and for the U.S. Air Force presence in the region, U.S. Army presence, and broadly U.S. military presence in conjunction with our allies and partners in the area.

00:26:15.460 It's going to require having individuals in the region.

00:26:18.740 It's going to have individuals on Taiwan in an overt presence, Brian, which is very important to draw the line in the sand and to say that the strategic realities of the 21st century compelled the United States to recognize Taiwan and to defend it.

00:26:34.980 Because of its critical role in the global economy, its critical geostrategic space, and its critical role in the fight, the political warfare fight against the Chinese Communist Party.

00:26:46.820 And so that's going to require looking at Taiwanese defense in a new light.

00:26:51.540 And that's going to require ensuring that the conventional and nuclear capabilities of the United States are brought to bear, again, in conjunction with allies and partners in the region.

00:27:00.760 That, yeah, that's perfect, Brad.

00:27:05.700 Can you stick with us?

00:27:06.880 We're heading toward a break and love to have you stick with us.

00:27:10.520 We're going to have Sam Faddis and Frank Gaffney with us as well.

00:27:13.640 So this will be a mini meeting of the Committee on the Present Danger China.

00:27:17.420 You're in the war room.

00:27:18.260 We'll be right back.

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00:29:05.980 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:29:08.540 You're back in the war room.

00:29:15.220 I'm Brian Kennedy, sitting in for the great Stephen K. Bannon, political prisoner of the Biden-Harris regime.

00:29:21.800 I have a collection of my colleagues from the Committee on the Present Danger China.

00:29:26.420 You just heard from Bradley Thayer, who's going to join us for the rest of the half hour.

00:29:31.500 We have Sam Faddis with us, former CIA officer, writer, editor, and really a critical figure in understanding the strategic situation we find ourselves in today,

00:29:45.300 as well as my partner in crime on the Committee on the Present Danger, Frank Gaffney.

00:29:50.580 The four of us will be in Allentown, Pennsylvania, Saturday, tomorrow, for a conference of the American Freedom Alliance and the Committee on the Present Danger China.

00:30:04.700 You'll have a lot of folks from the committee, but a lot of folks from the war room posse.

00:30:09.860 It should be a great event.

00:30:11.140 We've done these all around the country.

00:30:13.260 They've been a lot of fun meeting all the folks.

00:30:15.720 But Allentown, Pennsylvania, tomorrow, go to AmericanFreedomAlliance.org to learn more about that.

00:30:23.560 That's AmericanFreedomAlliance.org.

00:30:26.300 Okay.

00:30:27.680 Bradley was talking with us before we went to break, Frank, about William Lai in Taiwan and the courage it took.

00:30:37.040 And before we go back to that, Sam has had a recent piece out where he describes the Congressional Committee here in Washington that has come out with a new report, a House Committee report on Chinese influence in the United States.

00:30:58.360 Sam, could you tell us a bit about what you were thinking about all that and really the implications of that report?

00:31:05.060 Right.

00:31:07.400 Well, first of all, if I knew that we were all going to appear in public, the whole gang of four here, I might have declined.

00:31:14.460 I thought that was a violation of our tradecraft rules.

00:31:17.020 But that aside, look, the House Committee on Homeland Security has come out with this, what they call CCP threat snapshot.

00:31:25.940 And for those of us that are following this day to day, you know, it's kind of old hat and what I think probably shocking to bring it all together in one place.

00:31:38.680 And just for the average American who, you know, has other things to do and really just convey that what we're looking at here with Chinese intelligence operations is literally a threat to the continued existence of the Republic.

00:31:52.760 And certainly to our position as the preeminent power on the planet.

00:31:57.920 I mean, in the article we wrote it in, we tried to go through and just grab a hold of some of the bullet points to try to get people's attention.

00:32:06.260 I mean, amongst other things, the FBI is now opening a new espionage case against the CCP on average every 12 hours.

00:32:17.780 So this is this is not, hey, there's a few of these cases floating around and and this is kind of a peripheral issue.

00:32:27.000 This is this is being done on such a scale and they are stealing so much, co-opting so many people that literally is taking away the foundations of the Republic.

00:32:37.820 And we go in some into some detail just talking to try to, again, grab a hold of a concrete example of the fact that they have these new stealth fighters, the Chinese.

00:32:46.120 And we know as a fact, it is not conjecture because we caught the guy who was at the head of this and ultimately prosecuted him, that they literally built these fighters based on the blueprints and design specifications of ours.

00:33:00.540 They literally stole from subcontractors of Lockheed everything, just like the Russians built their first atomic bomb from our blueprints down to the location and size of the bolts. 0.75

00:33:16.980 That's how the Russians built their first nuke. 1.00

00:33:19.260 They just stole our design.

00:33:21.440 That's that's what the Chinese have done. 1.00

00:33:24.920 We we are literally now designing for the Chinese, the fighters that will win the war against us. 0.98

00:33:33.540 That's that's where we are.

00:33:37.260 No, it's a it's a it would suggest to you that we're in World War Three.

00:33:41.600 And this is this is one of the things that's been the theme of these conferences we're doing and really the theme of my colleague Frank Gaffney's longtime work.

00:33:50.480 Frank, thank you for being in the war room today.

00:33:53.200 Hey, it's always a pleasure to be with you, my friend, in person.

00:33:56.460 But but but give us your take on on this new report, because I do think it's dramatic.

00:34:02.200 Yeah. Well, to the point you just made, Brian, I call this World War Xi, because I think really every aspect of it is a direct or at least an indirect product of what Xi Jinping, the emperor of China, is up to.

00:34:18.340 And the home front piece of this is is particularly alarming.

00:34:23.040 I understand before I got here that you were talking about this drone incident.

00:34:26.720 Right.

00:34:27.640 17 days.

00:34:30.720 These guys were operating over the most sensitive national security real estate in the country.

00:34:37.200 Who was that masked man?

00:34:39.100 The question occurs.

00:34:40.440 Well, I think it's probably the CCP.

00:34:42.240 The larger problem that the Homeland Security Committee is talking about in terms of influence operations and Sam and Brad have done incredibly important work laying all this out with the committee and in their own right.

00:34:56.680 And it's hard to get your head around the extent of the penetration, the suborning, the capture, as the Chinese call it, of these elites.

00:35:11.880 And when you put it all together, it puts us in extreme peril, especially when you add into the mix the who knows how many tens of thousands of people's Liberation Army personnel that we believe have been insinuated into the country, too.

00:35:32.220 This gives Xi the option, I believe, all of these things together of taking down the country at will.

00:35:40.660 Right.

00:35:42.340 Which is one of the reasons why typically at these conferences we've highlighted the point that Americans need to be very aware of this fact.

00:35:52.560 Amen.

00:35:52.980 Because there's no one in Washington, it would appear, who's adequately protecting them, thinking about this, defending them.

00:35:59.920 I mean, really, we may be seeing a change here in this government where people even, as Sam just said, if the FBI is opening cases on this after having shut them down for many years, even they may realize this has gone too far.

00:36:18.380 Sam, could you just quickly on that?

00:36:20.620 You have the director of the FBI, seemingly every other day, warning about attacks here.

00:36:28.920 So this may be just a butt-covering exercise.

00:36:31.880 I don't know.

00:36:32.680 But if they're not spinning up about it, if they're not focused on it, if they're not actually moving beyond the investigations and rolling these guys up, I mean, for heaven's sakes.

00:36:43.440 We've talked about this before with the committee and the war room, I think with Steve.

00:36:48.380 We need a crowdsourcing operation trying to figure out where are these people's Liberation Army personnel.

00:36:54.440 You know, the American people were told see something, say something.

00:36:57.340 We need them helping the FBI, which is wildly outgunned here in the United States by the kind of presence – and that's before you even get to the students, 300,000 or so of them, businessmen and just plain old-fashioned spies.

00:37:14.120 I mean, this is a time where the Chinese are waging a people's war against us, as you know, a whole-of-society one. 1.00

00:37:22.760 We need a whole-of-society defense at the moment and a war footing.

00:37:26.220 No, absolutely.

00:37:28.300 Sam, you have long experience in the intelligence community.

00:37:32.780 I've been taking the theme this morning that we're winning the election, President Trump is winning the election, and that there will be a new sheriff in town, and we're going to get a lot of these things right.

00:37:42.060 My choice for CIA director is Sam Faddis.

00:37:45.600 Amen.

00:37:46.160 So, Sam, humor me and just let me know and the audience know what would we do day one to start correcting everything we've been describing here.

00:37:58.420 Well, the important thing to understand is that there's no mystery about what needs to be done, right?

00:38:04.840 It's not like we got to – we have to get serious and we have to get real, and I don't mean to be – I don't mean to sound silly or simplistic, but, okay, let's start with this.

00:38:17.240 We're allowing the Chinese to run rampant. 1.00

00:38:19.900 So Frank's talking about the number of students.

00:38:22.040 Well, every one of those students, whether they want to or not, works for the CCP because they have their choice because they've got a hammer over their head.

00:38:28.220 So you have to begin by dramatically limiting the pool of people you're trying to keep an eye on.

00:38:34.220 You can't monitor hundreds of thousands of students.

00:38:37.580 So you're going to have to cut that pool, and then you're going to have to enforce really serious restrictions on access to information.

00:38:48.020 You can't just say, let's go out and get serious and let's hunt down what amounts to an ungodly number of Chinese spies or co-optees. 0.92

00:38:57.100 You've got to really begin to limit the pool, get serious, numbers of individuals, access, all of these things.

00:39:05.640 And then you've got to get really hard-nosed about prosecution and investigation.

00:39:11.880 Ultimately, we caught the guy who ran this op that gave all of the design specs for the F-22 and F-35 fighters to the Chinese.

00:39:23.340 But he operated for six years on our soil and literally stole everything before we prosecuted him.

00:39:33.700 So, I mean, it's great that he went to prison.

00:39:36.220 But from a national security perspective, it's irrelevant because there was nothing left for him to steal.

00:39:42.280 Now, what's missing here, I guess, is what I'm trying to say is just the political will.

00:39:48.960 Tell people to get serious.

00:39:51.000 You have counterintelligence professionals who know what they're supposed to do, know how to put these people in prison,

00:39:57.400 know how to take the number of Chinese students down to, I don't know, a tenth of what it is.

00:40:03.560 But we just have to have the political will to do that.

00:40:08.440 Amen.

00:40:09.640 Yeah, no, and it would appear we don't have that.

00:40:13.780 Are you seeing that, Frank?

00:40:15.100 Political will, political leadership, political clarity even.

00:40:20.820 And look, I think the key tell here, Brian, is we're not even talking about this in the course of an election

00:40:28.220 where we'll decide on the leadership, on the clarity, on the direction of the country.

00:40:35.580 I've said it here and elsewhere many times.

00:40:38.240 We need the kind of strategic course correction in America that my old boss Ronald Reagan brought

00:40:45.960 to the last great communist existential threat to freedom, the Soviet Union.

00:40:52.980 Namely, he went to the American people and he asked for a mandate to make that course correction to bring them down.

00:41:00.260 Great. Let's pick it up.

00:41:01.240 Let's pick that theme up when we come right back.

00:41:03.580 Thank you.

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00:43:59.780 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:44:07.460 Brian Kennedy with you here in the War Room sitting in for Stephen K. Bannon.

00:44:12.520 We have with us the great Mike Lindell.

00:44:15.520 I can tell you at my house, Mike, there are pillows, there are blankets, there is coffee, you name it, we have it.

00:44:25.040 And we do it in part because we love you and everything you've done for the country.

00:44:30.860 And so I know you're on the last day of your vacation here before you do the final run to the election.

00:44:37.120 Tell us how we're doing in the election and tell us about the pillows and every other special you have.

00:44:43.400 Well, thank you.

00:44:44.800 And it's been like a one-day vacation.

00:44:47.280 But as you see, I'm always working and I want to help save this country.

00:44:51.200 And everybody, I'm so optimistic right now.

00:44:55.300 I feel the best I've felt about this election, every day even better.

00:44:59.780 You can check all the polling.

00:45:01.380 I was emailing with Steve and he's excited.

00:45:04.200 He said, I emailed him last week with all my optimism in prison there.

00:45:08.120 And he says, well, where are you getting this optimism?

00:45:11.880 And then I said, just check the polls.

00:45:13.560 He emailed me back today.

00:45:14.640 He says, wow, they're all showing great numbers for our great real president.

00:45:18.980 But you guys, we have so many things in place that you all should get involved in.

00:45:23.420 Go to LindellPlan.com and see what we're doing.

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00:45:31.840 This plan is great to secure our elections.

00:45:35.240 We only get one shot at this, everybody.

00:45:37.460 So you all need to get involved.

00:45:39.420 Another thing, if I could get you all to go to vocal.com, that's V-O-C-L.com.

00:45:46.340 That's where we have all.

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00:45:51.900 That's where all our election information is, where you can see what's going on in your

00:45:55.760 own county, even as we speak.

00:45:57.440 So it's going to be—I'm very excited, and I'm hoping to speak at the upcoming rallies.

00:46:04.920 I'm going to go with our real president and be out there at all the upcoming rallies, as

00:46:09.780 many as I can do.

00:46:11.200 I've been going around the country, and I think all of you should, too.

00:46:14.640 I've been going around the country to churches.

00:46:17.920 Speaking at churches, a couple thousand people the other day in Texas, we need to get involved.

00:46:24.640 They said there was one pullout that only half of the Christian conservatives are going

00:46:28.940 to vote.

00:46:29.340 I don't believe the pull, but you know what?

00:46:31.240 We can't take any chances.

00:46:32.980 When you go to church this Sunday, you sit outside.

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00:46:37.280 All you need to be talking about is this election.

00:46:40.200 You need to talk about it and get everybody you know to vote, vote, vote.

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00:46:46.520 And this can't be one where you sit back and you say, well, my state's going to be this

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00:46:52.200 I actually did a speech in Hawaii, all over the country, but Hawaii, my home state of

00:46:57.320 Minnesota, where usually you have suppression going, well, what's the use?

00:47:00.380 It's going to be blue anyway.

00:47:02.040 We need your vote.

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00:47:18.280 Three and a half, four years have built up to everything we're doing right now to secure

00:47:23.520 our elections.

00:47:24.260 We need our great real president back.

00:47:26.740 I was very, I thought it was great this morning on Fox and Friends when he was there and he

00:47:31.340 did a great job.

00:47:33.620 But I want to tell the War Room Posse.

00:47:35.480 That's great, Mike.

00:47:37.460 Yeah, I want to tell the War Room Posse about the specials with my pillow and my story.

00:47:42.820 You guys have made this possible this last year.

00:47:45.620 My pillow has been under the biggest attack in history by any company, any company anywhere.

00:47:51.840 Our attorney general is now attacking my charities, my Lindale Recovery Network, the attorney general

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00:47:58.180 And so this keeps going on and on.

00:48:00.860 But you guys keep supporting us.

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00:49:02.620 Thank you, Mike.

00:49:03.580 There's the number to call.

00:49:06.660 That's great, Mike.

00:49:07.640 I encourage everyone to go do that.

00:49:10.260 Enjoy your one day vacation, Mike, and then get right back to work.

00:49:14.020 Thank you.

00:49:14.600 Thank you again for all you do.

00:49:16.820 Thanks.

00:49:17.380 God bless you.

00:49:17.860 Thank you all.

00:49:18.280 Thank you, Mike.

00:49:20.680 God bless you.

00:49:21.260 We only have a few minutes left here.

00:49:23.960 Do we still have Brad with us?

00:49:26.060 Brad, can you tell us the title of your book and where people can go to find you?

00:49:31.100 My recent book with Jim Fennell is Embracing Communist China, America's Greatest Strategic Mistake.

00:49:37.280 Folks can find me at Brad Thayer on X or Bradley Thayer on Getter and Truth, Brian, and look forward to seeing you tomorrow in Allentown, Pennsylvania.

00:49:48.620 Yeah, I look forward to it, too.

00:49:51.640 Sam, you're going to be with us as well in Allentown.

00:49:55.640 You're the editor of Ann Magazine.

00:49:58.920 Tell us a bit about that as we're going out here.

00:50:04.580 Yeah, people that want to find me can find me at Ann Magazine or Substack, andmagazine.substack.com.

00:50:10.900 And my last comment would be this, free Steve Bannon.

00:50:16.660 Amen.

00:50:17.520 Free Steve Bannon.

00:50:18.660 That's wonderful.

00:50:19.420 And finally, let me turn to you, Frank.

00:50:23.300 You are the hardest working man in all of show business, and I'm very proud to be working with you.

00:50:30.780 Give us some of your closing thoughts here.

00:50:32.800 Well, just very quickly, two thoughts.

00:50:35.080 One is the comments we've been making about the Chinese Communist Party.

00:50:39.780 This enemy is real.

00:50:42.100 It poses an existential danger to this country, both from without and, as Donald Trump has been talking about, from within.

00:50:49.740 It needs to be addressed as such.

00:50:52.220 PresentDangerChina.org is where you can find our webinars and a great deal of work, much of it featuring people that we've just been hearing from, including our chairman, Brian Kennedy.

00:51:02.080 But I did also want to just mention one other thing.

00:51:05.960 The Chinese are also beavering away at world government with Chinese characteristics, to be sure. 1.00

00:51:13.220 We did a wonderful Sovereignty Summit yesterday, and you can find it at SovereigntySummit.org.

00:51:18.620 Perfect.

00:51:19.000 Thank you, Frank.

00:51:20.160 I'm going to end on a personal note.

00:51:22.020 Two points.

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00:51:25.920 Someone who doesn't get a lot of credit is Cameron Wallace, the producer.

00:51:29.200 He is doing a brilliant job, as is Natalie Winters.

00:51:33.920 Let me make a final point.

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Bannon's War Room - October 18, 2024

Episode 3987： Rise Of World War Three

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