Bannon's War Room - October 21, 2024


Episode 3991: Saving American Manufacturing


Episode Stats

Length

55 minutes

Words per Minute

158.84418

Word Count

8,867

Sentence Count

655

Misogynist Sentences

17

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

Stephen K. Maan and Mark Milley join host Alex Blumberg in the War Room to discuss the rise of the far-right wing of the Republican Party and the potential for a fascist victory on November 4th.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:07.380 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:12.620 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16.880 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18.820 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:20.240 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21.980 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:22.920 It's going to happen.
00:00:24.180 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:27.600 MAGA Media.
00:00:28.480 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.400 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.120 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.500 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:00:47.680 You would think he would be careful about trying to demonize and target people,
00:00:58.960 public figures that maybe you may disagree with.
00:01:03.200 Because when people hear that rhetoric, some people can say he's right.
00:01:08.020 They're the enemy and they may do anything.
00:01:10.040 So not only do you have to fear government, you have to fear people that will take things
00:01:15.120 into their own hands, including the people that tried to assassinate him.
00:01:18.680 It raises the likelihood of a dangerous environment.
00:01:23.780 And we should not belittle that in any way on either side of these political debates.
00:01:28.900 Yeah, he's not looking to take down the temperature.
00:01:31.120 He's ramping it up.
00:01:32.620 This is really straight out of Mein Kampf, the parts where Hitler is talking about American
00:01:38.940 immigration and American restrictions on non-white immigration.
00:01:44.520 And really, I think the philosophical question as a philosopher, what I wonder and what I ask
00:01:51.100 is, why aren't people more alarmed?
00:01:53.360 Why aren't people more alarmed by the rhetoric that we're seeing?
00:01:57.440 This would have been disqualifying in 2016.
00:02:01.060 But and we've read this again and again about the history of fascism.
00:02:05.440 We read that for this from Victor Klemper's work on the language of Nazism.
00:02:11.500 It becomes normalized.
00:02:13.260 You become inured to it.
00:02:15.180 And the function of this normalization is to normalize the practices.
00:02:20.680 Now the rhetoric has been normalized.
00:02:23.360 The next move history tells us is for this rhetoric to normalize the practices.
00:02:30.000 It's the Republicans, federal and state, who are already vowing to refuse to certify
00:02:34.980 the November election unless Trump wins.
00:02:37.820 Add to that the threat that a Republican-controlled Senate would confirm 40-year-old right-wing
00:02:43.880 replacements for Justices Alito and Thomas, meaning a far-right Supreme Court for the rest of
00:02:49.660 our children's lives, plus a national abortion ban and Project 2025.
00:02:55.420 And you have the recipe for a fascist America, not just in 2025, but in 2055.
00:03:01.580 Most dangerous person ever.
00:03:03.700 I had suspicions when I talked to you about his mental decline and so forth, but now I
00:03:08.180 realize he's a total fascist.
00:03:10.540 He's the most dangerous person in this country.
00:03:12.760 A fascist to the core, Milley repeated to me.
00:03:16.440 I will never forget the intensity of his worry.
00:03:18.700 The former top general is warning that on election day, 21 days from now, America could elect a
00:03:26.080 fascist to be president.
00:03:28.040 And Mark Milley is right, because Donald Trump is running a straightforwardly fascist campaign
00:03:33.120 at this point.
00:03:33.900 Not once, not twice, dozens of times that he will use the power of the government if elected
00:03:41.340 again, including in recent days suggesting the military to go after his political opponents.
00:03:47.020 This is as dangerous as it gets.
00:03:48.920 He's not, he's not only said it, he has doubled down on it.
00:03:53.640 And people that worked in his administration has talked about how he would operate in that
00:04:00.080 manner.
00:04:00.520 We have to remember people that were in his cabinet and that was in his circle of saying,
00:04:06.580 don't vote for him.
00:04:07.880 This is how he believes.
00:04:09.460 This is how he acts, which is a real threat to all of us that have opposed him.
00:04:15.380 What a lot of the people who are kind of on the bubble here, who are going to decide this
00:04:20.140 in many ways, are people who have to say and who are in their mind saying, yeah, Trump may
00:04:26.820 be crazy, but she's a socialist or whatever the but is to get to where they want to get
00:04:35.160 because they want to get to voting for, they want to get to voting against Democrats, right?
00:04:42.020 That, that, that's, and any, any justification, you know, you're going to grab anything on your
00:04:47.360 way to try to get there.
00:04:49.480 To me, the choice is, yes, he is an authoritarian figure.
00:04:55.760 And just because it didn't work last time, doesn't mean it won't work this time.
00:05:01.120 He is an existential threat to our democracy.
00:05:04.820 He's unfit.
00:05:06.060 We wouldn't be having this conversation if we didn't believe that.
00:05:09.960 There would not be never Trumpers if we did not believe that.
00:05:14.960 I mean, I threw away my career because I believe that.
00:05:18.080 Every Republican I speak to in every battleground state believes that, that he's unfit, he's
00:05:24.740 a threat to democracy.
00:05:26.400 So I lead with that always.
00:05:30.060 That's, that's my most persuasive argument.
00:05:32.900 Why vote for Kamala Harris?
00:05:34.740 Because that guy is a danger to this country.
00:05:38.280 That's why.
00:05:39.140 I remember talking to some folks during the 2020 cycle.
00:05:43.060 If he wins, maybe this is who we are.
00:05:45.860 And maybe that's the complicated, terrible reality we're going to have to confront.
00:05:52.480 But let's try not to be that country.
00:05:56.700 Morning.
00:05:57.420 Welcome to the War Room with the great Stephen K.
00:06:00.040 Bannon, Dave Bratt, co-hosting with Ben Harnwell in today.
00:06:04.880 We're going to be spontaneous and have a bunch of great guests and great conversations.
00:06:10.460 We're going to start this show one week to go.
00:06:12.660 Prayers for Stephen K. Bannon and his strong, speedy return to the War Room.
00:06:18.180 We start all the shows in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
00:06:22.360 Amen.
00:06:24.100 I got to respond to that brilliant, cold open Cameron put together and the team.
00:06:30.860 They just do great work.
00:06:32.080 They need credit for what they do.
00:06:33.620 But they're talking about the normalization of language, and they're equating fascism with
00:06:39.900 going after your political opponents.
00:06:42.800 I have two words to correct that view real quick.
00:06:46.760 Stephen Bannon.
00:06:48.560 He was the architect of the 2016 campaign, chief of staff to President Trump in the White
00:06:53.900 House.
00:06:54.160 He's in jail.
00:06:55.800 Right?
00:06:55.900 So this, don't get fooled with the gaslighting, the normalization of language.
00:07:00.960 It's all upside down.
00:07:02.960 Don't believe a word of it.
00:07:04.540 Peter Navarro also in jail.
00:07:06.980 President Trump with, I forget how many lawsuits and warfare coming from this current administration
00:07:13.520 and their Justice Department.
00:07:16.100 Right?
00:07:16.340 All political views are my own.
00:07:17.660 I want to cover, just for a minute, a very good article.
00:07:21.840 I recommend it to you.
00:07:22.920 Once in a while, the liberal guys, David Brooks with the New York Times, he tries to play a
00:07:28.300 conservative on TV once in a while.
00:07:31.340 He's not intentionally malicious, but he let the quiet part slide out pretty loud in his
00:07:36.440 piece.
00:07:37.060 Why the heck isn't she running away with it?
00:07:39.560 Meaning the election for Kamala Harris.
00:07:41.960 Why the heck isn't she running away with it?
00:07:44.520 And then he goes into this logic.
00:07:46.680 In days gone by, parties were political organizations designed to win elections.
00:07:52.160 Today, on the other hand, and this ties into everything you just heard, in an increasingly
00:07:57.600 secular age, political parties are better seen as religious organizations that exist to
00:08:03.180 provide believers with meaning, membership, and moral sanctification.
00:08:07.620 If that's your purpose, of course, you have to stick to the existing gospel.
00:08:11.120 You have to focus your attention on affirming the creed of the current true believers.
00:08:17.520 And this applies to the right and to the left.
00:08:19.100 So you see what they're doing with language, right?
00:08:20.740 Brooks is pretty educated there.
00:08:22.260 But he's just turning all of the orthodox religious language into this neutral stuff
00:08:27.020 about whatever your gospel is, whoever your priesthood is.
00:08:30.360 And then he goes through a couple stats for Kamala.
00:08:33.420 But he says the problem here is when you look at the Democrat Party and you look at their
00:08:39.340 priesthood, the public conversation on the Democratic side is dominated by highly educated
00:08:44.560 urban progressives who work in academia, the media, the activist groups, and so on.
00:08:51.280 He's calling them the left's priesthood.
00:08:54.080 And he's kind of affirming this, that this is okay.
00:08:57.840 These folks have a highly developed and self-confident worldview, a comprehensive critique of American
00:09:04.420 society.
00:09:05.260 That is their worldview, a comprehensive critique of American society.
00:09:09.980 You want to know who that is?
00:09:11.520 Do you want to know who the high priest of a cultural critique across the board of everything
00:09:15.640 American is?
00:09:16.660 Karl Marx.
00:09:17.920 So there's no shocker.
00:09:19.300 It's just amazing that Brooks is coming out in kind of the moral equivalent, right?
00:09:23.720 You got the Judeo-Christian West on the conservative side.
00:09:26.740 And then you got this new priesthood of elites on the other side.
00:09:30.800 He goes over the way the elites on the left fight racism.
00:09:34.420 But most Americans, he says, also want to fight racism, but they seek to do it in a different
00:09:39.020 way.
00:09:40.020 And 92% of Americans agree with the statement, our goal in society should be to treat all
00:09:45.020 people the same without respect to race.
00:09:47.660 Wow, what a radical idea.
00:09:49.220 MLK, et cetera.
00:09:50.620 Or take energy.
00:09:51.900 We have our ambassador, Carla Sands, coming up in a minute on this.
00:09:57.660 Most members of the Democratic priest class, you know, are climate crazy.
00:10:04.720 72% of Americans want an all-in approach across the board.
00:10:10.060 And then just in closing, I've been describing the Democrat priest class as the Marxist, right?
00:10:16.400 Just a sustained critique of everything American, starting with the nation state, the church,
00:10:20.920 the synagogue, the family unit, all under attack.
00:10:24.080 The green climate stuff, using the Justice Department.
00:10:27.280 The Republicans have exactly the same dynamic, except their priesthood is dominated by Christian
00:10:33.140 nationalists, some of whom are literally members of the priesthood.
00:10:37.780 Oh, gasp, right?
00:10:40.000 So on the conservative side, the Republicans have actual priests in their priesthood.
00:10:47.700 So, I mean, this is David Brooks just saying the quiet part outlawed, and this is the opposition.
00:10:53.760 He's actually admitting it is a war between the Judeo-Christian religious tradition and this
00:11:00.420 newfangled thing of the left, which cannot stand religion.
00:11:05.160 We're going to get into this with Ben Harnwell coming up.
00:11:08.000 But first, we want to welcome to the show Ambassador Carla Sands.
00:11:13.940 Ambassador, you've written a piece, and you've had a hit piece written against you by Politico,
00:11:18.880 so you must be right over the target.
00:11:20.640 I read your piece, just common sense.
00:11:23.000 It's what I just read, the huge stat, what the American people want.
00:11:26.620 Why don't you just give us a brief overview of our domestic policies and why we're in the wrong direction?
00:11:34.380 And then you have the expertise to also, secondly, cover the international waterfront, right?
00:11:40.700 Iran, Russia, Germany, the pipelines, et cetera.
00:11:44.400 And they're intimately connected.
00:11:46.580 So welcome to the War Room, Ambassador Carla Sands.
00:11:51.160 Thank you, David.
00:11:52.160 It's so good to talk to you.
00:11:53.380 And God bless Steve Bannon and what he's created and all the posse that's watching.
00:11:58.400 Yes, I'd be delighted to talk.
00:12:01.640 I have a piece out just over the weekend in The Washington Times about how Kamala Harris's energy policies are costing and will cost Americans time and money.
00:12:13.300 My mother, her wash machine, it broke down and the repairman came and she goes, well, I'll just get a new one.
00:12:20.880 He goes, don't do it, ma'am.
00:12:22.840 The new ones are no good.
00:12:24.320 They take a really long time and they don't clean the clothes.
00:12:28.220 So that's kind of where we're at because of their overreach and their attempt to have totalitarian policies.
00:12:37.120 They're actually the fascists trying to decide for everyone how things are going to go and what they can buy, whether it's stoves or gas-powered cars with their goals to have everybody in an EV.
00:12:48.500 It's all about the war on American energy and attempting to take us to some utopia that will put the average American, a car for the average American out of reach.
00:13:01.380 That's the goal.
00:13:01.960 But I would also just, if I could, Dave, I'd like to just mention to everybody watching, today at midnight is the last day to register to vote in Pennsylvania.
00:13:13.160 If you're in Pennsylvania or you have a friend here and they've been hesitant to vote, they haven't voted, this is the year they can't sit on the sidelines.
00:13:21.640 This is, like Dave was talking about, a binary choice.
00:13:25.780 And so do we want to live in a free constitutional republic protecting the First Amendment, all of our constitutional rights?
00:13:34.140 President Trump has promised that he and J.D. Vance are going to do that.
00:13:38.520 Kamala Harris has said she's going to pack the court.
00:13:40.800 She's going to do away with the filibuster so that she can install in a kind of a force-it kind of way every one of her policies that are going to bankrupt our country.
00:13:55.120 We're already going bankrupt.
00:13:57.340 But you can go to swampthevoteusa.com and you can register right now.
00:14:03.940 President Trump's website is swampthevoteusa.com.
00:14:07.960 But if you're in Pennsylvania, it's swampthevoteusa.com forward slash PA.
00:14:13.060 And you can register right now.
00:14:15.260 And just please don't wait.
00:14:16.920 And please don't wait to vote.
00:14:18.400 Remember, there were so many things that got in the way of us winning, whether it was that special for George Santos' seat.
00:14:25.180 Democrats used all nine days in New York of early voting.
00:14:28.760 Republicans waited for Election Day.
00:14:30.880 And then there was bad weather and they couldn't get out of their houses.
00:14:33.460 Or think about Maricopa County or the crowd strike event that happened right after the RNC convention when the CEO a few days later, you know, no planes were flying.
00:14:44.260 The CEO a few days later said, oh, we're really sorry.
00:14:46.560 We were practicing for Election Day.
00:14:48.400 So please don't wait for Election Day.
00:14:50.460 Please vote early.
00:14:51.900 In Pennsylvania, we've gone from four Democrats to one Republican.
00:14:55.660 Back after the break with Ambassador Carla Sands.
00:14:58.540 Stay tuned.
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00:16:12.400 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:16:15.280 Bannon.
00:16:21.180 Back in the war room, Dave Bratt sitting in with Ambassador Carla Sands and our co-host, Ben Harnwell.
00:16:28.740 Ben is going to come and join the show right now and drill down a little bit more on some of these energy issues that the ambassador just brought up.
00:16:36.680 Welcome to the show, Ben.
00:16:37.800 Great to have you on, brother.
00:16:39.900 Thanks, Dave.
00:16:40.700 Thanks very much.
00:16:41.220 Ambassador Sands, I was particularly interested in what you were saying at the top of the show, how your mother had been advised by a technical expert here.
00:16:51.440 This is what you said in the Washington Times article.
00:16:54.560 We'll put that out on our social media because everybody should click on this, read it.
00:16:58.680 It's simply excellent.
00:17:01.020 But to quote you precisely, you say these regulations with regards to energy efficiency mean that consumers will often face pricier appliances that don't work as well.
00:17:12.980 Could you just dig down a little on that and draw out for the war in posse the fact that government regulations driven by the environmental lobby,
00:17:20.900 because obviously what's done in the name of the environment is simply about shifting more product on behalf of producers.
00:17:26.980 It's not about consumers or consumer choice.
00:17:29.280 Could you just break down a little bit that relationship between regulations and lack of choice?
00:17:34.600 Are you aware of any empirical, formal evidence undertaken by a think tank or something like that to drive down on this relationship between the regulations and the inferiority of produce?
00:17:52.620 Because anyone who buys anything these days will be aware of precisely this.
00:17:57.220 Things are getting more expensive and they need replacing sooner rather than later.
00:18:02.820 I'm glad to hear that government is at the bottom of this.
00:18:06.140 It is.
00:18:07.060 So government's causing it.
00:18:08.280 And in fact, there are plans to do away with certain kinds of water heaters.
00:18:12.440 It's being run out of our Department of Energy.
00:18:16.280 And there's a lot of activists working there.
00:18:18.540 And so I'm really looking forward.
00:18:19.760 For God willing, President Trump wins, that he has a team of very excited people to bring choice back to Americans.
00:18:28.660 All political views are my own.
00:18:30.160 But putting the American people first rather than a climate cabal, these Green New Deal scams that don't benefit anyone except China.
00:18:40.380 Communist China is the beneficiary because most of these green goals are controlled by China,
00:18:47.200 whether it's the rare earth mineral mining and processing or the manufacture of most solar panels and windmills.
00:18:55.660 But, for instance, when I was a kid, our dishwasher was finished in about 30 minutes.
00:19:00.400 Now they can take well into an hour and a half.
00:19:03.340 All this is planned by the government enforcing these certain efficiencies, using less water, where, you know,
00:19:10.600 President Trump's going to help with the water issues, too.
00:19:13.000 We have plenty of water.
00:19:14.780 It's just largely misallocated.
00:19:17.120 You know, I think I don't know about America, but here in occupied Europe, including to the reaches of Great Britain,
00:19:25.460 they passed a law saying you had to have a minimum amount of quantity in the flush when you flushed the toilet.
00:19:31.860 So the obvious consequence of this is that you now need to flush the toilet two or three times to do what could have been done in one single flush before.
00:19:40.340 I think the argument you're saying here is exactly the same, right, with electric vehicles.
00:19:45.120 The whole shtick here, you indicate how this is a great boon for Chinese manufacturing.
00:19:50.320 But the shtick here is to pass a law and to make everybody effectively at some point in the next 5, 10 years buy a new car that's EV,
00:20:00.020 whether they needed to buy a new car or whether they didn't.
00:20:03.540 It's great for manufacturers, including domestic manufacturers, I might add.
00:20:08.280 This is a case that the lobbyist congressional complex forces consumers to buy things that they don't do not need,
00:20:19.120 that they have less money to spend on the things that they do want to spend that money on so that their quality of life goes down.
00:20:26.540 This is simply a racket, right?
00:20:29.840 It is.
00:20:30.700 So the American people had more money in their pocket under President Trump and they had a wide choice.
00:20:36.060 Now they want to limit the choice by government control.
00:20:39.520 And you're right.
00:20:40.140 It's going to cost.
00:20:41.080 There will be people that can't afford an electric vehicle.
00:20:43.800 So I'm really hoping that every listener goes out and votes and votes early so that we can win and we can have common sense regulations come in.
00:20:53.360 President Trump talks about how regulations are actually more important to everybody, less regulations than lower taxes.
00:21:00.700 The overreach is so big that under President Biden, he's put in five times more regulations than President Obama did.
00:21:10.160 That's how shocking this is.
00:21:12.140 And Elon Musk is talking about how soon we won't be able to make or do anything because we'll be so overregulated.
00:21:18.460 President Trump removed regulations.
00:21:20.840 At the end, seven regulations went away for every new one.
00:21:24.660 So, for instance, I'll give you an example.
00:21:28.320 Governor Gavin Newsom, it was some time ago, but during this administration, he said, listen, we're going to go to all EVs by I think it was 2035 or around that time.
00:21:41.440 And so we're not going to be able to buy gas powered cars.
00:21:45.100 Later that same week, he goes, oh, by the way, you can't charge your electric car because it's straining the grid.
00:21:51.540 No charging allowed. So can you imagine he's literally kneecapping every Californian?
00:21:57.340 There's like 40 million people there.
00:21:59.920 What kind of a joke is that policy?
00:22:02.120 That's we need America first policies.
00:22:04.520 All political views are my own.
00:22:06.120 But we need America first policies again so that, you know, governments around the world take care of their people.
00:22:12.800 Our government looks like the only government in the world that really doesn't care about the well-being and prosperity and security of our people.
00:22:21.900 So I'm really hoping that President Trump and J.D. Vance are elected.
00:22:26.500 They have great people coming on board like RFK Jr., Elon Musk, like people who really care about the people, whether it's their health or government efficiency.
00:22:36.520 Everybody who worked for President Trump knows there's a lot of waste.
00:22:40.860 There's a lot that can be done to save every taxpayer, I would say, trillions of dollars a year.
00:22:49.420 Ambassador, can you also I think we got a couple of minutes to go.
00:22:53.940 And so also, can you expand on the international linkages that our domestic energy policy is being driven by international forces?
00:23:04.240 These wars we're fighting.
00:23:06.040 Iran was weak under Trump.
00:23:08.620 Now they're strengthened.
00:23:10.220 Germany, the pipelines, you know all about in your role as ambassador.
00:23:14.060 How are all these issues connected and how hopefully will a new administration help to fix some of this?
00:23:20.640 Well, really quickly, Dave.
00:23:21.860 So my team and I worked with President Trump in his White House in the Danes to block Nord Stream 2, that Russian gas pipeline.
00:23:29.180 The only place it was never completed was my area of responsibility.
00:23:33.760 And that was a win for the United States, but for the world, because it was limiting more Russian gas.
00:23:40.560 And what Joe Biden did on day one, he canceled the Keystone XL pipeline.
00:23:45.600 Several months later, he said, look, we're not going to sanction that Russian gas pipeline, allowing it to be completed.
00:23:51.620 That's Putin's project, right, with Germany.
00:23:54.740 And then we had the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, which every world leader watched.
00:24:01.120 Kamala Harris was the last person in the room and said she wouldn't have done anything differently.
00:24:05.540 Just let's not forget that.
00:24:07.180 And then the third piece of the puzzle, I think, of the Biden-Harris administration was when Joe Biden stood at the podium and said, look, if there's a minor Russian incursion into Ukraine, we're not going to do anything.
00:24:17.920 And I believe that that opened the door.
00:24:20.800 Those three pieces opened the door to Putin invading Russia would never have happened under strong Trump administration leadership because he led with peace through strength.
00:24:30.520 But we also had the invasion by Hamas into Israel.
00:24:33.920 They could have never afforded to go in under President Trump because he was bankrupting Iran.
00:24:40.480 He was starving them with maximum pressure, not starving literally, but starving their funding of their Quds Force, of Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthi rebels.
00:24:50.360 So they were hamstrung in aggression.
00:24:53.740 President Biden gave them billions of dollars for a handful of hostages released.
00:24:59.800 And then he said, we're not going to sanction your energy sales to China, allowing them to have hundreds of billions of dollars to play with.
00:25:08.160 And that is used for aggression.
00:25:10.580 Iran is aggressing.
00:25:11.500 In fact, they're funding the people on our campuses and in our cities, they're funding that anti-Israeli, those protests, along with leftist groups.
00:25:23.240 They're actually fomenting to try to destabilize our country.
00:25:26.840 So we have to, have to put maximum pressure back on Iran.
00:25:32.040 And Israel is doing a great job, but they need us to have their back.
00:25:36.000 Right on.
00:25:37.740 Ambassador Carla Sands, thanks for being with us, sharing your expertise across the board.
00:25:42.980 How do people get you?
00:25:44.160 What are you doing the rest of the week?
00:25:45.220 20 seconds to go.
00:25:47.020 I'm going on the Trump bus tour in Pennsylvania.
00:25:50.620 I hope to see you there.
00:25:51.960 We just had a bunch of his female ambassadors in Bucks County to get out the vote.
00:25:56.380 And I will just say every posse member, vote, vote, vote.
00:25:59.320 Thanks so much.
00:26:00.200 Great to be with you.
00:26:01.320 Oh, carlasands.com.
00:26:02.740 And I'm on Twitter, Carla H. Sands.
00:26:06.000 Very good.
00:26:07.260 Back in the war room, Dave Bratt sitting in with the great Ben Harnwell.
00:26:11.720 We will be back in the war room with more.
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00:29:03.200 I'm also seeing Democrat senators and Senate candidates in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, literally all using you in their ads, right?
00:29:15.200 So these are the same people that voted to impeach you and convict you in the U.S. Senate and in the U.S. House during your presidency in your first term in office.
00:29:25.820 And now they're running ads about how much they got along with you during their time in office.
00:29:31.580 What's your response to that?
00:29:33.040 Well, it's an honor, actually.
00:29:35.580 They have senators that voted to impeach the Democrats, and they're Democrats, and now they're bragging about my policies, and they have to use that because their policies were radical left and not good.
00:29:50.400 So they're now taking ads, saying that I was in favor of tariffs like President Trump, I was in favor of this and that, and nobody's ever seen anything quite like it.
00:30:02.120 But they weren't.
00:30:03.060 I mean, they weren't.
00:30:05.840 Welcome back.
00:30:06.680 So now we're joined by the author of that interview, Matt Boyle, the Washington Bureau Chief for Breitbart News.
00:30:13.260 Matt, welcome back onto the show.
00:30:14.720 Look, I think you're the journalist who's interviewed President Trump more times than anybody else.
00:30:19.180 That point that you were just talking to him about there, I'd like to ask you, by the way, how you found him in terms of momentum and spirit about sort of 18 days before this election.
00:30:29.940 But before we do that, that point you flagged up here that we just played, and we pushed the whole interview out on our own social media, that's really important, right?
00:30:38.100 Because it sort of illustrates yet again this point that the Democrats actually, Kamala Harris, she doesn't have a record worth standing on to stand on.
00:30:47.320 So all she and the Democrat candidates have is Donald Trump.
00:30:52.520 Yeah, and importantly here, you've got down-ticket Democrats, Senate candidates in the case of Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, incumbent Democrat senators, and in the case of Michigan and Arizona, House members who are the Democrat nominees for Senate, who are literally running ads as their major closing message.
00:31:11.780 And we've done an analysis of particularly Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, this is the bulk of their spending statewide in the closing weeks of the campaign, that are running ads saying that they stand with the Republican candidate for president on major issues like trade and immigration, not with their own party's nominee.
00:31:34.980 That is a sign that they think that the Republican candidate is going to win the White House in those states, and that they are hoping for split-ticket votes, down-ticket, to survive and win their own elections.
00:31:50.940 So it's every man or woman for themselves on the Democrat side, and on the Republican side, there's great unity.
00:31:58.600 It is also, frankly, extremely ironic.
00:32:01.820 You have Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket claiming that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy itself, yet her own party's Senate candidates are across the board universally talking about how well they got along with Donald Trump.
00:32:19.400 So which is it? Is he a threat to democracy, or is he someone who effectuated great policy changes that helped the American worker in the battleground states?
00:32:31.200 And it seems to be the latter is the truth, and they're admitting that, and they're saying the quiet part out loud.
00:32:38.140 But the Kamala Harris campaign is in complete collapse.
00:32:41.240 And I think that that moment was probably the most newsworthy of our interview with President Trump this weekend.
00:32:49.240 We spent about 30 minutes with him over the phone.
00:32:52.260 He joined us on our SiriusXM platform on radio, and we've published several stories on Breitbart about it.
00:33:00.400 People can go to SiriusXM Patriot Channel On Demand in the app and go listen to the interview.
00:33:06.180 We've aired it multiple times on the Patriot Channel.
00:33:10.340 But there's a lot of other stuff we talked about in the interview, too.
00:33:13.600 But I think that that moment illuminates where we are in this campaign, which is that Donald Trump has all the energy, and Kamala Harris has none of it.
00:33:22.960 Let's talk about this energy thing, because Kamala Harris has actually been tweeting over the weekend that President Trump is starting to flag, drawing allusions indirectly to his age.
00:33:32.940 Now, as I said in the beginning, you've interviewed him more times than anybody else, so you know the guy.
00:33:40.020 Your 25-minute exclusive interview with him didn't sound to me like he's flagging or winning active energy.
00:33:47.180 No, not at all.
00:33:48.600 And, in fact, we addressed this head-on during the interview.
00:33:51.740 This is one of the things he really wanted to talk about.
00:33:53.900 As the final weeks of the campaign here are underway, he is aggressively ramping up his schedule.
00:34:00.000 He noted that in more than 50 days, he hasn't taken a single day off.
00:34:05.020 He focused on—he laid out how he's ramping up events.
00:34:09.620 He's adding more.
00:34:11.100 Obviously, you saw him yesterday.
00:34:12.700 We talked about this on Saturday afternoon when we taped the interview, that he was at McDonald's, right, like serving people.
00:34:19.580 That was pretty cool.
00:34:21.160 He went to the Steelers game last night in Pittsburgh.
00:34:24.280 But right before he taped this interview with us, he had done a tele-rally for half an hour to an hour or so.
00:34:33.080 And then right afterwards, he did a town hall in Pennsylvania.
00:34:36.460 In between his appearance at McDonald's and his appearance at the Steelers game yesterday, he was at—he did another town hall in Pennsylvania.
00:34:45.520 He had done rallies.
00:34:46.980 He's doing rallies almost every day.
00:34:49.480 He's got town hall events, appearances in the battleground states.
00:34:52.240 Kamala Harris, meanwhile, is scaling back her appearances on the campaign trail.
00:34:58.600 Her public schedule just announced last night shows that two out of the five business days of this week, she's hanging out in Washington, D.C.
00:35:07.660 She's not even campaigning in the battleground states.
00:35:10.140 On Tuesday and Friday this week, Kamala Harris will not be in battleground states.
00:35:14.720 She will be at the vice president's residence in Washington, D.C.
00:35:18.080 So it's nonsensical by the Kamala Harris campaign to claim that Donald Trump is exhausted, which is the word they keep using.
00:35:27.120 And then this gets to another big point that we really hit in the interview with President Trump, but I encourage people to listen to the full thing and hear him talk about it in his words.
00:35:36.020 But the—is that in one breath, they're claiming Trump's exhausted and can't do the job as president.
00:35:42.980 But in the next breath, they're claiming that if Trump wins the election, he's going to weaponize government against Democrats and his political opponents.
00:35:51.400 And Trump kind of found the whole thing comical, like that the—you know, which is it?
00:35:56.820 Again, is he going to weaponize government or is he too exhausted to even run the government, right?
00:36:01.800 Like, so—and we talked in particular about how the hypocrisy here, in particular about the left, we mentioned—you know, one of the things we talked about specifically was Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon, right?
00:36:16.620 Like, I mean, again, the Biden-Harris administration sent both of them to federal prison.
00:36:22.960 Steve is still in prison, right?
00:36:24.900 Like, because of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, right?
00:36:28.320 Like, they could release him today, and they refused to do so.
00:36:32.320 He's only there because Kamala Harris is the vice president of the United States.
00:36:37.080 And obviously, that also doesn't even get into all the things that Donald Trump has faced with weaponization of government by the Biden-Harris administration.
00:36:47.000 I mean, Kamala's best friend, Jack Smith, has been coming after President Trump for some time now, and he continues to do so all the way up until the election, right?
00:36:55.240 Like, they dropped more stuff this week.
00:36:57.460 And so the fact is, is that there's a lot of inconsistencies, logically speaking, from the Democrats, and that's why I think you're seeing the energy behind Trump in the final days of this campaign and why Kamala Harris is sliding.
00:37:16.600 Yeah, hey, Matt, Dave Bratt in here as well.
00:37:21.080 I want to call, ask Denver, please show, I think we've got a one-minute cold-open clip of a contrast that's central.
00:37:29.480 Here we go.
00:37:30.640 Anti-Christian rhetoric and anti-Christian approach to public policy.
00:37:34.620 I don't think we've, I don't think that we've, that's right, Jesus is king.
00:37:38.240 And I don't think that we've seen.
00:37:39.620 I don't think that we've seen anything like this in modern American politics.
00:37:57.380 Yeah, Matt, I just want to get your reaction.
00:37:59.180 That's J.D.
00:37:59.920 And then a couple days ago, Kamala Harris is out there on the stump in front of a crowd.
00:38:04.960 And I don't think our video would play this morning.
00:38:09.100 All political views are my own, but it was staggering.
00:38:12.160 The quiet part came out loud, right?
00:38:13.980 She was in church and Walsh was in a church.
00:38:17.180 But then somebody yelled out something similar to that, you know, Jesus is Lord.
00:38:22.020 And then someone else said the same thing.
00:38:24.000 And she said, you're in the wrong place, right?
00:38:26.980 Go down to the small rally down the street or something like that.
00:38:30.580 Yeah.
00:38:30.900 I just want your take on that.
00:38:32.540 Yeah, look, her campaign is directly insulting to Christians and Catholic voters.
00:38:39.580 Obviously, she skipped the Al Smith dinner.
00:38:41.680 This was one of the big things I talked with President Trump about.
00:38:44.740 Kamala Harris, his campaign is a direct insult.
00:38:48.860 And so are the Democrats as a whole right now to Christians and to Catholics.
00:38:53.680 And frankly, we are seeing Kamala Harris slide significantly in those demographics.
00:39:00.600 Those are key demographics.
00:39:01.560 Obviously, President Trump's performance with evangelical Christians was one of the biggest
00:39:06.900 reasons why he won in 2016.
00:39:09.580 And we've talked, both of us, I believe, with Ralph Reed from Faith and Freedom Coalition.
00:39:14.600 He's talked about this.
00:39:15.540 He believes that Donald Trump's performance this year with evangelical Christians is gonna
00:39:19.360 be even bigger based off of the numbers and the work that his group is doing out there
00:39:24.000 to get out the vote.
00:39:26.260 And this is only gonna fuel that.
00:39:28.560 And then also, you have Kamala Harris skipping the Al Smith dinner.
00:39:32.040 Donald Trump's winning Catholic voters right now.
00:39:34.180 And that's in contrast to 2020, when Joe Biden won Catholic voters by about 5%.
00:39:40.200 Donald Trump's winning by about 5% to 10% among Catholic voters.
00:39:44.860 And I think that's only gonna intensify.
00:39:47.420 And frankly, when you've got Gretchen Whitmer out there doing the thing like the fake communion
00:39:52.680 thing.
00:39:53.040 I mean, this is a total insult to voters of faith.
00:39:56.320 And frankly, any voter of faith out there in the country right now, the choice is clear.
00:40:01.660 Donald Trump and J.D. Vance are the answer.
00:40:03.620 And Kamala Harris is insulting you, right?
00:40:07.920 Like, and I mean, she's doing it from the campaign stage at a rally when she told people
00:40:12.240 they're at the wrong rally if they believe Jesus is king.
00:40:15.060 So, really incredible.
00:40:16.660 Ben Harnwell.
00:40:18.300 Yeah, I've got a question from Matt, going back to what he was saying just before the clip.
00:40:24.500 Looking at the betting markets, I guess you follow polymarket as closely as I do.
00:40:30.680 A huge amount, I think 30 or so million that's been betted from overseas, allegedly, because
00:40:37.240 Americans aren't allowed to do political bets.
00:40:40.760 Each one now of the six battleground states is now firmly in Donald Trump's column, including
00:40:49.020 Nevada, which had been touching the go for about two weeks.
00:40:53.560 Trump now has a 10% lead.
00:40:55.400 Before we go to the break in 30 seconds, could you just tell me something?
00:41:03.080 You're a pretty astute observer on these things.
00:41:05.040 Do you think Kamala Harris peaked too early?
00:41:08.520 Yes.
00:41:09.320 Like, yes, very much so.
00:41:11.040 And I think she's in full decline.
00:41:13.720 The betting markets are a good indicator.
00:41:15.920 Those are people with real money on the line that are betting who they think is going to win.
00:41:20.400 And then they're looking at things like early vote data, polls, et cetera.
00:41:23.580 But the energy is all with Trump.
00:41:25.940 Kamala Harris is in full decline.
00:41:28.340 The establishment's desperate to say this is going to be close.
00:41:31.200 I don't know.
00:41:31.660 Maybe it will be, but it might not be too.
00:41:34.020 So we'll see.
00:41:37.820 Great.
00:41:38.480 Thanks, Matt.
00:41:39.360 I think we're going for a break now.
00:41:41.060 Two minutes, yeah?
00:41:41.940 Back in two minutes.
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00:44:30.660 against the powers of this dark world, and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
00:44:37.060 Folks, if ever there was a single Bible verse that defined a whole age, it's Ephesians 6-12.
00:44:45.580 I posted on this an hour before the show started.
00:44:48.680 It ties in nicely, I think, with what Matt Boyle was saying just now, following on front from J.D. Vance.
00:44:54.700 This is a spiritual battle, right?
00:44:58.740 And it couldn't be clearer.
00:44:59.920 It couldn't be clearer because Kamala Harris said that Jesus Christ isn't welcome in the Democratic Party.
00:45:08.180 There's this article in The Guardian.
00:45:10.300 This is my article of the day, right?
00:45:12.500 A headline, the Satanic Temple is taking on the Christian right.
00:45:18.740 It's absolutely clear.
00:45:20.160 They're not hiding it anymore.
00:45:21.300 This is exactly what is going on.
00:45:22.820 Matt Boyle, my question to you is, do you see, when I say a single Bible verse can define a whole age,
00:45:31.240 I'm referring to a number of trends that tie together.
00:45:34.200 The fact that young guys, this is the first time in generations, young guys are taking the lead in church now.
00:45:41.200 Young guys are drifting to the right as women are drifting to the left.
00:45:45.460 There is a movement taking place.
00:45:49.120 How closely do you see, moving forward, this growth of Christian nationalism, this idea of MAGA becoming ever more explicitly pro-Christian, defense of Christian values, in defense of Jesus Christ, and the Democrats moving in the opposite direction?
00:46:09.900 This article here in The Guardian, which for the folks in America, the Warren Posse will definitely know this.
00:46:15.800 We cite this all the time.
00:46:16.600 It's basically the UK's version of the New York Times, right?
00:46:20.940 It even says Satan is now a feminist.
00:46:24.340 Do you see this trend, Matt Boyle, going forward over the next generation?
00:46:28.140 Is it going to widen or is it going to converge back towards the center?
00:46:31.700 Well, look, this is what this election's about, right?
00:46:35.700 So what you have on the top of the ticket on the Democrat side, we never—look, there used to be minor political disagreements between the two different sides, between the two different parties.
00:46:45.320 But you would never really have one party openly undercutting what it means to be a voter of faith, what it means to believe in God, what it means to—beyond the faith situation, what it means to the normal societal norms with regard to family, and what it means to be a man, what it means to be a woman, right?
00:47:11.120 Like, I mean, again, we have one party that has openly declared war on all of these traditions and norms in this country, and that's the Democrat Party, right?
00:47:20.800 I mean, just look at the way that they're handling the issue of masculinity right now on the Democrat side, right?
00:47:26.180 Like, you have Doug Emhoff and Tim Walz out there, the would-be first gentleman, currently second gentleman, Doug Emhoff, and the would-be vice president, current governor of Minnesota, and Tim Walz.
00:47:39.300 I mean, they're trying to re-craft what it means to be a man in society.
00:47:45.720 They're also trying to re-craft what it means to be a woman in society, right?
00:47:49.260 So, again, my hope here is that—and I think that a lot of voters see this—is that none of this is normal, right?
00:47:57.700 Like, none of this is normal by the Democrats.
00:47:59.540 And so, if they lose this election, one would hope that the Democrat Party will retool and move back to the center and actually compete to win the hearts and minds of American workers and families in a normal way, rather than in this way where they're trying to radically morph and reshape all of these things in society to fit their twisted agenda.
00:48:26.460 And if they do that, they'll probably have better success.
00:48:29.940 And, frankly, the American worker and family will do better if there's an actual arms race between both political parties like there used to be back in the Reagan days.
00:48:40.080 You know, I mean, again, Reagan and Tip O'Neill, they had their disagreements and they had their differences.
00:48:45.700 But they were minor compared to what we're talking about today.
00:48:49.000 Matt Boyle, that is an essential point, right?
00:48:53.660 My question to you is, how can the Democratic Party, at least on the religion front, at least on the Christian point, ever come back to the center?
00:49:02.000 Because who—after statements like what Kamala Harris said, I think it was on Saturday,
00:49:07.440 which believing Christians are still going to be in the Democratic Party to bring it back to the center?
00:49:18.000 If you are a person of faith, if you believe in Jesus Christ, are you—what possible rationalization can you make to yourself to stay in that party at this point in time?
00:49:27.720 Well, again, I would argue that Christianity, one of the biggest themes and tenets of Christianity is redemption, right?
00:49:35.860 Like, and forgiveness, right?
00:49:39.960 Like, and so hopefully, again, after they lose the election, they go through a cycle of redemption and forgiveness on their side
00:49:50.460 and actually change their ways and move off of this radical agenda that they're pursuing and try to rectify the wrongs that they've made, right?
00:49:58.780 Like, so—but again, they cannot be rewarded with power when they're pursuing this extreme radical agenda that they are pursuing, right?
00:50:08.760 Like, I mean, they've made it clear.
00:50:09.960 They genuinely despise voters of faith, Kamala Harris, Gretchen Whitmer, the whole rest of them.
00:50:17.380 And again, I'm very confident that the public in the numbers and what we're seeing out there, you know, in the polling data, in the early vote data, et cetera, are rejecting this, which is a good thing.
00:50:32.360 But after it's rejected, assuming it is, then hopefully they go through a cycle of redemption and forgiveness on their side and fix these major issues on the Democrat side.
00:50:46.420 I hope that they do, because I do think it would be healthy for the country to see both parties actually competing to do some good in the world.
00:50:53.380 I'm very happy to forgive anybody who is willing to apologize for their mistakes.
00:51:02.520 My question specifically was, if all the Christians, if all the believing Christians have left the Democratic Party,
00:51:09.900 who is going to still be in that movement in order to bring it back to the centre whenever they go through their conversion moment?
00:51:15.860 I don't see it. I can't see it possibly happening.
00:51:18.440 You mentioned Gretchen Whitmer, right?
00:51:21.820 Folks, I think the woman possibly would have seen the fact that she did this appalling blasphemous parody of the mass with a Dorito crisp, a Dorito chip.
00:51:31.500 This is what Americans, this is what your Democrat elites, the Democrat elites think of you.
00:51:40.320 This is what they think of your religion and they would think of your faith.
00:51:44.600 They could not have more contempt for you.
00:51:47.360 Matt Boyle, I know you've got to jump. Thanks for coming on the show.
00:51:49.380 Quickly, where do people go to download your interview with President Trump?
00:51:54.240 Yeah, we have it on Breitbart.com.
00:51:56.480 They can also follow me on Twitter at mboyle1 and on True Social at Real Matt Boyle.
00:52:02.120 So we've got the interview up there and they can also listen to it on SiriusXM On Demand.
00:52:09.880 Matt Boyle, thanks very much. Catch you again with me soon. God bless.
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