Trump claims that Pennsylvania is cheating, but there is no evidence of widespread vote fraud in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Jake and Natalie try to make up for the loss of Jack Posobiec, but it's not as simple as it sounds.
00:03:36.200And we'll go to – is Natalie in Palm Beach?
00:03:38.720Before I bring in Natalie, we're going to try to get Jack rebooted.
00:03:41.560There seems to be mass chaos in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
00:03:50.620As Bill McGinley committed to us yesterday, Bill's, as you know, one of the senior election lawyers in the Trump movement.
00:03:59.900He's now a senior guy at RNC, also in the campaign.
00:04:02.700He said, look, we're going to be very aggressive here.
00:04:06.180There's this issue about, you know, early mail-in voting where you actually take your mail-in ballot and to make sure it gets there, you walk it and drop it off.
00:04:16.820It's our waits because of the MAGA movement and Republicans are voting en masse.
00:04:21.860There's also all types of other issues going on, but people going in line with illegitimate badges and telling people to go home.
00:04:30.440Natalie Winters, you know, we've warned people that this is going to happen.
00:04:49.360The color revolution has begun and it's underway in Pennsylvania.
00:04:53.640And this goes all the way back to July 13th with what happened on the first assassination attempt against President Trump.
00:05:01.420And what you're seeing is a continued deprivation, frankly, of the civil rights of the MAGA movement when it comes to their ability to vote.
00:05:10.000But I think we have to be very clinical with our analysis about what is going on here because this is a convergence of multiple narratives, particularly with the news coming out just a few days ago when the New York Times previously unreported that CISA, yes, that little swampy subset out at the DHS,
00:05:28.460has actually been training since 2023 over 30,000 election officials and 1,300 county-level election offices, particularly honing in on the efforts that they've done in Pennsylvania with that New York Times piece showing that under the advisory of CISA,
00:05:46.680a lot of these election offices have adopted what they call election security measures.
00:05:51.660That's essentially blocking out and covering the windows so you cannot see in.
00:05:57.060Now, this dovetails with the other narrative being that the FBI has embedded themselves within a lot of these election offices under the pretense and predictive programming narrative that foreign election disinformation is coming.
00:06:11.200And when you look at Pennsylvania, here's why it's so important.
00:06:14.660Because just two days ago, the ODNI, without citing any actual evidence, put out a long-form memo saying that a video of ballots being tarnished or toyed with
00:06:25.640out in Pennsylvania was actually a result of actions coming from a Russian disinformation campaign.
00:06:32.040Now, like I said, they didn't cite any evidence.
00:06:34.540But what you're seeing is sort of the priming, the predictive narrative programming in order to say that any fears raised about election fraud or election integrity issues are a subset and they're an act of foreign disinformation.
00:06:49.680But also, Steve, it's important, too, to note that the shenanigans, or as President Trump calls it, skullduggery, because that's what you're seeing, it's not just limited to Pennsylvania.
00:07:01.040Just today you have news breaking that in Colorado for months passwords to voting systems were left online by Jenna Griswold.
00:07:09.680And even in Michigan, you have Jocelyn Benson saying that they're seeing nationwide errors with, yes, I'm going to say it, the D word, Dominion voting systems.
00:07:18.980So you're starting to see the convergence of all of these narratives come together with, of course, the DOJ maintaining that they're involved in a quiet period,
00:07:29.020trying not to adjudicate election matters while they're actively working to ensure that noncitizens can still vote.
00:07:34.900We started, Natalie, walk back through this because this is going to be massively important because it kind of dovetails with Mark Elias being hired so publicly to be the Harris's campaign on this.
00:07:51.040But also Krebs, I think our crack production team this morning had a cold open with Krebs.
00:07:58.280I think it was on Morning Joe as one of these MSNBC shows saying that the election in 2020 was the most, was the safest in human history and that this election will be even safer.
00:08:10.180Is this part of their election misinformation narrative to put Krebs and these guys out there to basically, you know, try to convince people that everything's fine when, in fact, this has already started off as a complete mess?
00:08:26.640Of course. Look, when President Biden stands up there and says that MAGA and your supporters are garbage, he's actually just talking about how the system wants to treat our ballots.
00:08:37.660In other words, they don't want to count them. And it's quite clear.
00:08:40.980But this is some fifth dimensional information warfare that they're waging.
00:08:45.560Just today, Bloomberg had out a huge spread with the title, I think Denver has it, how U.S. voting machines became safer than ever.
00:08:54.240And this, of course, comes on the heels of months of narratives that we've seen from every mainstream media outlet, which is particularly two key points that justify, that lay the groundwork for these election delays.
00:09:07.360Which, like we always say, the mistakes, I guess apparently now like the windows, only seem to go one way.
00:09:12.760And that is that Republican poll watchers are a threat not just to democracy, but they're going to be violent on Election Day and that there's going to be massive delays when it comes to the Postal Service and mail-in ballots.
00:09:24.240So much so that you see a group of experts warning, I think it was in Reuters just a few days ago, that Republican poll watchers are very dangerous.
00:09:32.480And now in lockstep, the Brookings Institution coming out listing 50 plus counties that they think are, they say, high risk for failing to certify election results.
00:09:43.780So all of these narratives converge, not just, like I said, to justify delays in election results, but more importantly, to push MAGA, to push Republican poll watchers outside of the count, outside of the rooms where elections are determined.
00:09:59.580So much so that I believe out in Washington, a Republican poll watcher was actually kicked out of a ballot testing procedure for not wearing a mask.
00:10:09.520So you're seeing the resurgence of this sort of lawfare, much in the style that they came after you and President Trump, to really try to weed out Republican poll watchers.
00:10:20.400And Steve, to that very point, right, these election officials who, much like Anthony Fauci, have never found a microphone or a press conference that they did not want to become the star of, they have said absolutely nothing on what is going on in Bucks County.
00:10:33.900There's not been a single statement from Josh Shapiro.
00:10:36.780They're acting as if it's not happening, right?
00:10:39.060The democracy chorus of voices who all they seem to care about is protecting and preserving democracy.
00:10:44.820They won't even touch these stories with a 10-foot pole, which tells you it doesn't work and it doesn't fit with their narrative.
00:10:51.920Thank God the Trump campaign stepped up and sued and won.
00:10:55.100So now people can vote until Friday, starting today, I believe from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. still in Bucks County.
00:11:03.400But just on the last point, Steve, remember, in Pennsylvania, that's the same state where law enforcement waited multiple minutes, despite having foresight and knowledge of an active shooter on the roof who was coming after President Trump to do anything.
00:11:20.360Yet they find the time now to come prematurely, that's right, three hours early, to kick Republicans out of election lines, depriving them of their right to vote.
00:11:30.560How does the Mark Elias hiring by the Harris campaign, does this show that already they're panicked, that they know they have a lack of enthusiasm, African-American men, Hispanic men in Michigan, Arab-American, Muslim men, that there's a clear lack of enthusiasm for Kamala Harris?
00:11:54.360They make such a big deal about bringing in Mark Elias, and he's carpet-bombed MSNBC being on there every 10 minutes since he was hired.
00:12:02.880Does this dovetail with other things you're seeing?
00:12:05.720A hundred percent, and I think the real tell isn't even just Mark Elias, but it's a new pact that was launched while you were in prison called the Democracy Defenders Pact,
00:12:15.360led by the former Obama campaign director and Norm Eisen and a former leader of Stacey Abrams' gubernatorial campaign.
00:12:25.000With the buried lead of this pact, like I said, Democratic heavyweights, including Color Revolution extraordinaire and architect Norm Eisen,
00:12:32.920being that they're spending tens of millions of dollars not on actual voter turnout or campaigns or candidates or ads,
00:12:39.780only on lawfare, only on down-ballot lawfare too.
00:12:45.560That's the only thing that they're focused on, and they've been putting out resource after resource
00:12:50.520and helping these lawfare, these legal issues when it comes to not just the presidential race, but down-ticket races too.
00:12:57.800And when you see people actually being pulled off of the Harris campaign,
00:13:01.640one of their top advisors I think used to run comms for the Harris campaign,
00:13:05.460being pivoted away from an actual get-out-the-vote operation in the Harris campaign itself,
00:13:10.820it shows you what I think has been the thesis of this show from the get-go, right?
00:13:14.900Kamala Harris is and always has been a vessel for dark money interests.
00:13:19.180She's been billowed and buttressed by interests that don't even really care who she is, right?
00:13:23.800She's a listless vessel, and you see it, I think, in the, frankly, the stillbirth of her campaign last night,
00:13:29.100where she's forced to campaign on the ellipse because she has nothing to run on.
00:13:32.840They have to call us a fascist because that's the only thing they have.
00:13:36.320So they're reliant on lawfare because there's no enthusiasm for her,
00:13:40.020and they know at the end of the day we've won the issue.
00:13:43.000And you know how we know we've won the issue, Steve?
00:29:52.060Natalie Winters is going to be with us.
00:29:54.240Natalie Winters just gave us kind of her field theory of the color revolution that's going on in this country.
00:30:01.580And real quickly, Natalie, I know Jessica Guilfoyle, but give me that you've got a breaking news on Norm Eisen's, the father of this thinking.
00:30:10.520Yeah, he was just on a podcast talking about how what he's witnessed overseas being the architect of so many color revolutions abroad, but that he said, and I quote, striking similarities to what's going on here.
00:30:23.020And the kind of facet of politics that he really honed in on was particularly all these generals coming out and endorsing Kamala Harris and saying that President Trump is fascist.
00:30:32.960I played it a few days ago, but maybe we can play it in the 6 p.m. hour.
00:32:38.680What we're up against, like I said, is it's information warfare, it's psychological warfare, it's political warfare.
00:32:44.360And I think in some ways you're seeing it turn into kinetic warfare when they're trying to tell people to get out of line, that they can't vote.
00:32:50.760And like I said, you have to contextualize it with what the news cycle is right now.
00:32:55.060Just yesterday, the lead story on Politico, the headline of the article is quite literally how to abolish the Electoral College.
00:33:02.840And the Harvard-Ash Center, to supplement that, is putting out long-form reports about why Americans don't support the Electoral College.
00:33:10.260In other words, their backup plan, right, is sort of the insurance policy that even should President Trump win, that they're still going to go, as you would say, to the mattresses on saying that, well, Kamala Harris won the popular vote, i.e. there's pretext for Jamie Raskin and all those Democrats who were busy telling Axios that they're not going to certify the election results.
00:33:29.680They're laying the groundwork for that in the same way when they say not just President Trump, but his supporters are fascists, that there's a moral righteousness for them to then not seat him.
00:33:41.480And when you see, like I said, it's not just what is happening in Pennsylvania.
00:33:44.760You're seeing similar, I'll use the word President Trump uses, skullduggery going on in Colorado, going on in a myriad of states with, of course, ABC News today already unintentionally airing a Harris victory forecasting one in Pennsylvania, right?
00:33:59.700These people like Norm Eisen, they've turned, it's a circular firing squad now, right?
00:34:11.320And what they're doing here is basically what they did overseas.
00:34:16.360And when you look like I sent you, Steve, on the Brookings website, Norm Eisen just put out a report identifying over 50 counties across this country that he's flagged as basically highly sensitive or high risk for not certifying election results.
00:34:32.200And, of course, they're all in the swing states.
00:34:34.560And I think, look, Steve, here's the most important part, right?
00:34:37.740Whenever you watch Jake Tapper or any of these people, even Jenna Griswold as she's holding her press conference trying to explain how for months they had passwords to the voter system in Colorado be uploaded to the Internet that anybody and their mother could have downloaded, what's the thing that they always say?
00:34:54.260Oh, well, this is going to be used as cannon fodder for conspiracy theorists.
00:34:58.280This is going to be used to spread misinformation.
00:35:00.280Well, the point is, is that we trust but verify, but they've criminalized the verification process to the point where they've thrown you in jail.
00:35:09.660They've thrown thousands of January 6th types in jail.
00:35:12.060And they've essentially made it, whether it's what they've done down in Georgia or a myriad of states where they've basically made the threshold for certifying an election so low that the ability to challenge fraud is 10 times more difficult.
00:35:26.640And even if you go past Election Day, you can already see, I mean, Steve, before you went to prison, the word Trump-proof, right, that was a concept that they were already trying to mainstream.
00:35:36.360And you see yesterday a huge profile piece in The Washington Post about how they're trying to Trump-proof the CDC, NATO's in a full-blown meltdown.
00:35:45.440But, too, I think with the most important buried lead of all of this Trump-proofing in the same way, in the same style of the first impeachment,
00:35:52.580not just that they literally were quoting Fiona Hill in a long-form interview saying that President Trump is, of course, a threat to democracy,
00:35:58.980but they're working currently with the Office of Special Counsel to rework whistleblower clearances and the ability for whistleblowers to go public with information ahead of President Trump's second term, right?
00:36:12.940So they have full-spectrum domination to the point where you even see in Jack Smith's 165-page filing, right,
00:36:21.180the buried lead in that document, the new information, it had to do with non-citizen voting and the idea that President Trump is now using that to lay the pretext to essentially claim that they're stealing the election again.
00:36:33.400Well, how about this? Stop letting non-citizens vote and the Biden regime should stop suing to allow them to vote, right?
00:36:39.300They always have a backup plan. They always have an insurance policy because they know what's at stake, their ability to rig elections.
00:36:46.680Jack had to bounce. Natalie, hang on fast. Is Jack still there? Is the hepatitis over?
00:36:55.620Okay, fine. I thought you saw him up on the screen. Jack had to bounce. I want to bring in Philip Patrick.
00:37:02.800Philip, we're already discussing problems happening that were in court having victories, massive problems in the administration of the election kind of pre-game day in Pennsylvania.
00:37:15.020We already know Arizona could be a disaster. This complicated two-, four-page ballot was supposed to take eight to ten minutes to fill out.
00:37:23.940It's taking 18 to 22 minutes. People are talking about potentially hours in line.
00:37:29.180What does that mean for signaling about our favorite topic, the hedge that is gold?
00:37:35.840The market's at an all-time high, but gold is at an all-time high. Your thoughts, sir?
00:37:39.900Yeah, look, I think that if Kamala wins the election, the sky's the limit for precious metals.
00:37:48.180So what's been driving gold to its highs, and it's hitting all-time highs on a consistent basis, there's a number of different things, right?
00:37:56.300We have inflation, which is rising again and has been for the last three CPI reports.
00:38:02.340We have a dollar that is losing value on a global stage, down 20% since Biden got in office.
00:38:09.280We have a world running away from the U.S. dollar.
00:38:12.540And, of course, we have demand for gold at all-time highs from central banks around the world.
00:38:18.620U.S. dollar holdings by central banks today are at 26-year lows.
00:38:23.080If we have another four years of Biden-esque policy, and by the way, you know, looking at Kamala's economic policy, it is essentially to spend twice as much money as Biden did, as if the problem with Bidenomics was they didn't spend enough.
00:38:38.880So, you know, we are expecting more highs on gold should Kamala win the election.
00:38:44.460It will be a disaster for the economy here in the United States.
00:38:48.240Why, you know, I kind of have been talking about when I heard her closing argument last night that she's running a Seinfeld campaign that's really about nothing, and it kind of the sophomoric happy talk she gave last night.
00:39:04.920When she talks about the economy, when she talks about what she would do, what does that signal to the precious metals market and people that are trying to hedge their downside risk of where this thing could go?
00:39:20.760It just signals a huge lack of understanding as to where the issues lie.
00:39:26.380I mean, her policy is tax-heavy, right, raise taxes essentially across the board.
00:39:30.660By the way, that comes with consequences.
00:39:34.040According to the Independent Tax Council, that would cost the economy 2% GDP and a million jobs.
00:39:40.780But what she's missing is the big problem.
00:39:43.140By the way, taxes or the tax increases are suggested to generate about $950 billion in tax revenue over the next decade.
00:39:51.900What she's missing is its massive spending that has gotten us into the problems we have today.
00:39:57.740Right. Debt service payments for the last fiscal year were $1.2 trillion, right?
00:40:03.840That's 50% more than defense spending, and it's more than these tax increases will generate over a decade.
00:40:10.940So to summarize this policy, it is stepping over dollars to pickpocket cents, and it will not work.
00:40:17.840And as long as that continues, the world will continue to run away from the U.S. dollar.
00:40:23.240If you're a foreign country holding U.S. dollars and you're watching this administration running massive deficits, why on earth would you want to hold dollars?
00:40:35.240Sadly, Kamala will be very good for gold prices longer term, but that doesn't bode well for the broader economy.
00:40:42.140What Natalie and Jack Posobiec are laying out is that it looks like it could be highly unlikely that we have a winner next Tuesday.
00:40:53.420In fact, with information warfare going on, political warfare going on, there could be a long time of uncertainty.
00:41:02.740What do you think that means for the gold market?
00:41:04.440I mean, it means higher gold prices, uncertainty, whether it's economic, whether it's political, whether it's geopolitical, these things generally bode well for safe haven assets.
00:41:15.600Look, if Trump wins, and we're all hoping and praying because I don't think we can suffer, like I've said many times, another four years of these policies.
00:41:23.820But even if Trump wins, it's going to be an about turn in terms of policy, but he's inheriting a very tough, tough job, almost $37 trillion in debt.
00:41:35.080Like I said, a world running away from the U.S. dollar.
00:41:37.660But this climate in front of us is going to bode very well for precious metals, no matter who wins.
00:41:44.280But I am hoping, praying, campaigning for a Trump victory, because from an economic standpoint, there's no alternative.
00:45:29.780They have a huge shout out in there, Philip, about our Birch Gold, the end of the Dollar Empire.
00:45:35.340They say quite complimentary things about it.
00:45:37.080Of course, Rachel Maddow misinterpreted that, said, hey, Bannon and Philip Patrick are trying to destroy the dollar.
00:45:42.000Anything but we're trying to give warning signs about the issue, about being the prime reserve currency and how we're spending our way into oblivion.
00:46:29.100We have been kicking butt here in Arizona, working overtime, basically in the office and out in the streets and knocking doors from sunup to sundown and then in the office until late nights.
00:46:42.840We have thousands of volunteers that are out knocking doors through our commit 100 program, which we've mobilized folks to go out and chase 100 ballots of the most necessary ballots.
00:46:56.700And then, of course, we have our full timers on the ground, and we have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people who are on the ground who have been building relationships since early this year.
00:47:04.980And we're seeing the fruits of that as many of those people are already turned out to vote.
00:47:11.640We are pummeling the Democrats in what we call low propensity turnout here in Arizona, and our team is absolutely not leaving any stones unturned as we go about that work.
00:47:25.500And so it's been a big week this week in particular because this is probably the most important week of the election cycle in Arizona where we have chased down almost every relationship that we possibly can, and we're continuing to do that on a good trajectory to turn out the amount of people we need to win.
00:47:42.880Walk us through for a second, the audience, because the big issue about early voting and these ground game operations is to make sure you don't cannibalize, you're just not cannibalizing your election day vote.
00:47:55.880So how do you guys know that you're getting the low propensity voters?
00:47:58.680Because if you're getting the low propensity voters in the numbers that we're seeing, all of a sudden people, I think, can start to feel a lot better.
00:48:07.020We can't stop work, but people feel a lot better about Arizona.
00:48:09.660Yeah, so the numbers that we're seeing in some of our areas in Arizona and the Phoenix metro area is where we have three to four times as many of what we call the low propensity voter turned out than the Democrats do.
00:48:30.880And what we did about two years ago when we realized that the – what I call the Republican apparatus, the national Republican apparatus was not doing this work was we identified these people.
00:48:42.520We figured out who are the people who didn't vote in 2020 but were registered Republican and have had some kind of indicator that they're a good conservative.
00:48:50.680They just for whatever reason did not vote in 2020 and 2016 or in both elections.
00:48:54.660So we call these people disengaged voters.
00:48:57.840These are more than just simply low propensity voters.
00:49:01.740They're what we call disengaged voters.
00:49:04.660And so for that reason, we identified those people, have been out, put people actually into the communities, very similar to the way that the Democrats did under the Obama era of community organizing, putting someone there full time to identify, befriend, talk to.
00:49:21.100And in many cases, already know some of these people and then work that neighborhood in order to make sure that they are prepared to vote and following up in the concierge-type service.
00:49:39.520And, of course, we don't want to cannibalize our election day.
00:49:42.660In Arizona, we have a unique situation where we don't have as bad of a problem with that because we have significantly more male voters to begin with because we have a historic precedent that's been set with that that's not typical in most states.
00:49:58.500So we're able to identify not just the low propensity voters but the low propensity voters that we know have a ballot already sitting on their counter.
00:50:11.260Mike, we're getting great news out of Arizona.
00:50:14.020I know this has been a huge focus of yours.
00:50:18.160Talk to us about these kind of efforts of people like yourself, Turning Point USA, Elon Musk, to put a shoulder to the wheel on this ground game.
00:50:27.220Well, it's huge because we were proactive.
00:50:29.940We've been working for over three and a half years to everything we've learned to be proactive.
00:51:15.820And one of the things, too, is the information by people now getting their information from the great show like your show, The War Room, and other platforms.
00:51:26.720We're getting the information out there that they suppressed before us.
00:51:30.280So any of these things, these deviations or any of the good things happening, you're not going to hear this on Fox News or Newsmax.
00:51:37.200You're going to hear it right here in The War Room, and you're going to hear it on other social media platforms.
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