Stephen K. Bannon and Natalie Winters are joined by The Atlantic's Peter Bergen and Mike Benz to discuss the latest in the ongoing saga of the Deep State, and how the deep state is trying to destroy the Trump administration.
00:00:53.000Wall Street Journal just dropped a story under this headline.
00:00:56.000Quote, Trump draft executive order would create board to purge generals.
00:01:00.000The panel could upend the military review process and raise concerns about the politicization of the military.
00:01:06.000Quote, the Trump transition team is considering a draft executive order that establishes a warrior board of retired senior military personnel with the power to review three and four star officers and to recommend removals of any deemed unfit for leadership.
00:01:20.000If Trump approves the order, it could fast track the removal of generals and admirals found to be lacking in requisite leadership qualities, according to a draft of the order review by The Wall Street Journal.
00:01:30.000But it could also create a chilling effect on top military officers, given the president elect's past vow to fire woke generals, referring to officers seen as promoting diversity in the ranks at the expense of military readiness.
00:01:45.000So it looks like President Trump is going to get his own generals after all.
00:01:52.000Yeah, you can suck on that Atlantic and MSNBC.
00:02:55.000And no amount of Soros funded DAs or weird woke perversions of what criminal justice means is going to change what the punishment is and rightfully so for treason.
00:03:08.000And I'm looking at you, Mark Milley, but I'm sure there's a pretty deep bench of people just like you.
00:03:14.000It'll be interesting to watch them rat each other out.
00:03:20.000We sat here and I know Steve and I told you that you're going to see a chorus of voices in the same way that the Atlantic tried to tell you that, oh, we need a pandemic amnesty.
00:03:36.000You're going to see that same type of refrain coming from all of these people, the ones who are, I don't know, being advised to leave the country.
00:03:45.000Yeah, those people saying that, oh, the deep state, the weaponization of government.
00:04:14.000This is the Atlantic, the railhead of the globalist propaganda regime.
00:04:18.000Operating within the federal health agencies is an actual deep state, albeit a much more benign and rational one than what Trump has talked about.
00:04:27.000Whether you know it or not, you've likely seen this deep state in action.
00:04:32.000Yeah, I've seen this deep state in action.
00:04:35.000And I'm not just talking about COVID for the four months that I had to sit in this chair.
00:04:41.000This audience has seen the deep state in action, right?
00:04:45.000But thank you, Atlantic, for explaining this to us.
00:04:48.000I'll keep going because it only gets more maddening.
00:04:50.000It was the reason Trump's preferred treatment for COVID during the early phases of the pandemic.
00:04:56.000Hydroxychloroquine was not flooding pharmacies, and it was why COVID vaccines were not rushed out before the 2020 presidential election.
00:05:03.000Both of those efforts were stopped by civil servants despite overt pressure from Trump and officials in his administration.
00:05:10.000Public health officials didn't buck Trump to sabotage him.
00:05:14.000They did so because both measures were scientifically unsolid.
00:05:19.000Well, I'm glad the Atlantic has finally admitted that the deep state exists because I don't know about you.
00:05:26.000I only heard for years this show get dragged through the mud and be titled the number one spreader of misinformation for making those exact same claims about COVID.
00:05:36.000And I'm not even adjudicating in the post-game analysis world where we were also right on the origins of COVID-19, too.
00:05:44.000But what you're seeing develop is essentially, we use an intel term, a limited hangout for the deep state.
00:05:51.000In other words, the deep state is benevolent.
00:06:08.000You guys caused and created the pandemic.
00:06:11.000I'm looking at you, Anthony Fauci, who, by the way, it's been awfully quiet lately.
00:06:15.000I've never seen him miss an opportunity to give his analysis that absolutely no one asked for, right?
00:06:20.000There's never a microphone that he won't run to.
00:06:23.000I haven't seen him giving any post-election analysis.
00:06:27.000But here's why this is scary, in my opinion, because this deep state, the permanent political class, the in-your-face state, whatever you want to call it, they're very much like, shall we say, a hydra in the sense that when you chop off a head, and I think we chopped off a head metaphorically on November 5th, just a week ago, it only grows back and multiplies, right?
00:07:15.000When you guys are having your post-game analysis, trying to understand your autopsy of why you guys lost the election, it's really this simple.
00:07:23.000You guys hate America, and the American people know it, but I digress on that, right?
00:07:29.000They're not even really traitors in the sense that if you line them up, you do the columns of what they've done to help this country versus what they've done to help other countries, I think you basically have a zeroed out on the pro-America stuff, evidenced, of course, by their aversion to anything that's America first.
00:07:47.000But these people are effectively foreign agents, right?
00:07:50.000I mean, the policies that they've put out, whether it's the southern border, the endless forever wars, immigration, you name it, basically are as much, I think, if Xi Jinping were writing the executive orders, I'm not sure he would have changed much coming out of the Biden regime, right?
00:08:06.000But here's the crazier part, and here's where we're really going to get into strategy, which is so imperative for this audience to be ahead of the curve, because you guys are the tip of the spear in fighting back, being the counter-resistance, because you know all too well these hack Republicans we have up on Capitol Hill aren't going to do anything to help us.
00:08:23.700You guys maybe remember Rosa Brooks of Transition Integrity Project Infamy, she founded it, and she's back with a vengeance, these people just won't go away, but they held the war games simulating a Trump victory, a Trump loss, a Trump administration, she has a new piece out today, and I want to read you what is a very important line that will dictate, arguably, the next four years of your life, the opening salvo, like I said, of the resistance 2.0.
00:08:52.880Our exercises suggested that the best means of pushing back against autocratic Trump administration actions lie in the realm of politics and culture.
00:09:04.460They don't want to put it through the courts because they don't think that the Supreme Court necessarily has their back.
00:09:13.940We can, for instance, find ways to throw sand in the gears whenever possible.
00:09:18.300She goes on saying that these Democratic donors need to create even larger, vaster, dark money networks to prop up and defend the forthcoming wave of whistleblowers.
00:09:39.440We know that's always been their predetermined and beloved tactic of ways to subvert the Trump administration, shouldn't be lost on anyone, that just a few months ago, the Office of Legal Counsel, or Special Counsel, rather, reworked the guidelines when it comes to whistleblowers, right?
00:09:54.540They might not have taken the House, though there are some still active races going on, but I'm sure they'll try to flip the margins.
00:10:00.020Mark Elias is tweeting up a storm today trying to flip races.
00:10:02.680So they can't legally impeach him, right, through traditional levers of power, but they will wage a full-scale shadow impeachment warfare campaign, right?
00:10:12.980Because the object of impeachment, the goal, the objective, isn't even really the impeachment articles or the Senate trial.
00:10:20.340It's to demean and to throw, as they say, sand in the gears, deny and stop the momentum that the Trump-MAGA movement has built.
00:10:30.220So they'll kneecap him any way they can, and their preferred tactic, it's a word you hear Rachel Maddow saying a heck of a lot, and it's something that Steve and I have been drilling down on, is this idea of civil society and protests.
00:10:43.780We're going to get into Norm Eisen later, because he has some brilliant, as you could just imagine, I'd say evil genius, but I don't think he's a genius, just evil, ideas how to further subvert American democracy.
00:10:56.120But here's the thing, right? If they don't have the traditional levers of power here in the United States to go after President Trump, they will outsource, as they always do, their subversion and their attacks against President Trump to the global stage, more precisely, the globalist stage.
00:11:15.560I want to read a couple of recent headlines for you guys.
00:11:19.180On the same exact day that President Trump won, overwhelmingly, might I add, to rub it in, the WHO put up an article.
00:11:28.200For example, WHO study lists top endemic pathogens for which new vaccines are urgently needed, and they put 17 pathogens that they think are money needs to be used to go find the vaccines, and we always know when they try to discover the vaccines, they're reverse engineering the cure to the next pandemic.
00:11:46.760And all their returns seem to go up quite nicely, right?
00:11:51.720Then, just today, the WHO demands urgent integration of health and climate negotiations ahead of COP29.
00:12:00.500And when you read the article, it really brings to fruition everything that we have warned about for years on this show, saying that climate change intersects with public health.
00:12:08.820And because of that, we need to have a coalition of every country that's working together to stop these made-up crises in the name of, oh, I don't know, making people like Klaus Schwab and Antonio Gutierrez even more powerful and having influence over your life.
00:12:22.200And then, the best part, also breaking today, global pandemic treaty negotiations to conclude by May, the WHO says.
00:12:31.340Right, if they can't rely on their apparatchiks here, if they're busy in the civil society column, they're going to double down, triple down, quadruple down on the globalist superstructure to wage war, partly against Trump, but also against you, the MAGA movement.
00:12:47.360And today, you have the NATO chief coming out, melting down, saying that, oh, the Ukraine war is really important for United States territorial sovereignty.
00:12:57.520Yeah, maybe you should put out a statement about America's southern border.
00:13:06.580Well, Norm Eisen put out a very telling tweet today.
00:13:11.440And that is, quote, the future of American democracy may look uncertain, but there are proven strategies for responding to a liberal democracy.
00:13:22.020We should look at lessons learned in Central Europe and Turkey.
00:13:25.600And he points to Poland and Hungary in this long-form Brookings Institution report about all the ways that the United States has, catch this, waged color revolutions across the globe to bring about their perverted version of liberal democracy.
00:13:41.440Which brings us back to, I think, the opening of this show, and where their version of liberal democracy is generals like Mark Milley getting to run the show and pretend that they're real alpha men,
00:13:55.560when in reality, they're hiding at nice swanky DC cocktail parties while they're sending your children and grandchildren to die to defend the borders of other countries and then demeaning you and calling you Nazis, fascists, and Hitlerian for daring to support a candidate who, catch this, has the wild concept of putting America first.
00:14:16.200And he's not just saying that you're politically unwise, he's attacking you, your character, and your soul.
00:14:22.980Oh, and by the way, if you're Christian, you're also a crazy bigot, zealot, religious Christian nationalist.
00:14:29.940So, you know what, Norm Eisen, you have all your playbooks about color revolutions and all these playbooks, all these strategies.
00:14:36.500Oh, we're going to drill down and we're going to let our audience know exactly what you guys want to do.
00:14:40.140But it didn't work on November 7th, and it's not going to continue to work because you haven't met this audience yet, and we don't give up without a fight.
00:16:15.240You're back in the war room, the show that was actually just named by Axios as one of the top post-Trump victory MAGA media spaces leading the charge.
00:16:31.020Yeah, we know that Axios, you could have told us that a few years ago, but thank you for catching up.
00:16:36.220Might I just also add, on a serious note, I'd like to dedicate the honor that Axios just bestowed upon us to none other than Merrick Garland, who thought that he could throw Stephen K.
00:16:51.900We just emerged as one of the, if not the most powerful shows in the media ecosystem.
00:16:58.900That's not just MAGA, but for the entirety of this country.
00:17:02.000How's that for getting out of prison, Merrick Garland?
00:17:08.700You tried to destroy this show, and we're going to take so much damn pleasure in reporting on the wholly justified probes into the crimes that you committed.
00:17:19.700Opening bid, what you did to Stephen K. Bannon, we'll then go to the southern border.
00:17:24.300Then we can go to what happened overseas.
00:17:26.280And then maybe we'll go to your family and your finances, because I'd love to see who's been paying you.
00:17:32.780And we're going to take a lot of joy in reporting on that at the tip of the spear of MAGA media.
00:17:41.240Yeah, Axios, which you probably read and you should get used to reading, because maybe we'll break it in Axios that we're investigating you.
00:17:48.440So thank you, Merrick Garland, for making this show grow so much.
00:17:52.640It's the Biden version of the Streisand effect.
00:17:56.240If you throw a host in prison and suddenly it skyrockets and rips and roars like it never has before.
00:18:06.560And I guess we'll throw Lisa Monaco and Matthew Graves and all those wonderful people in there, too.
00:18:10.700So on that note, I think we are joined now by Mike Benz, who we're going to get into what CISA's future should look like, this sort of incoming censorship information warfare.
00:18:22.500But I'm curious, though, just before we get into all that on the color revolution stuff, Norm Eisen's, I mean, quiet part out loud.
00:18:31.220Talk about an example of that tweet saying that he needs to use his same color revolution playbook here in the United States.
00:18:37.740Your thoughts on sort of this concept of civil society emerging as the hotbed of resistance?
00:18:42.200Yeah, well, this is stock and trade intelligence work is that you cloak the operations of a shadow government in the nonprofit, nonprofit, NGO, university, activist, civil society space.
00:18:57.220I mean, this is this is what the CIA got in trouble for in the 1970s and then put on steroids starting in the 1980s for doing.
00:19:04.740And the fact is, is Norm Eisen was born in this world, created by it, molded by it.
00:19:10.820Norm Eisen was the U.S. ambassador to the Czech Republic and claimed that one of his proudest achievements was effectively leaning on the government of the Czech Republic to prosecute the enemies of the U.S. embassy there.
00:19:23.900He is part of a post 2010 flock of State Department global puppeteers who've who've sort of crafted this doctrine that they call transitional justice, which is the idea that after the State Department floods the zone with cash and media and assets to tilt an election in a foreign country,
00:19:47.980a close election that they narrowly win, a close election that they narrowly win in order to achieve a state of democratic stability where they don't need to worry about the other side ever winning again,
00:19:57.780they engage in this program they call transitional justice, which is the idea that when a country transitions from an autocratic leader to a democratic leader,
00:20:08.100you have to use the justice system against everyone from the previous political party so that they can't win the next election because they're all in jail.
00:20:18.240So, for example, if you look at this is what was done in the Czech Republic, this is what's happening right now in Poland.
00:20:24.580In fact, one of the CIA's top cut out a civil society institution called the National Endowment for Democracy, which calls itself an NGO,
00:20:33.200but it is 100 percent funded by the U.S. State Department and is formally accountable to the House Foreign Relations Committee.
00:20:41.200I'm sorry, the House Foreign Affairs Committee and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and was created in a letter from our CIA director in 1983
00:20:48.260that it was set up for the express purpose of getting back the powers the CIA had lost in the 1970s.
00:20:55.140They wrote a direct article with the audience being the new the new prime minister of Poland who had narrowly won an election,
00:21:04.180giving him a list of names of everyone to round up from the previous political party to ensure populism is stamped out and does not rise again.
00:21:13.640It's explicitly using the criminal justice system to to prosecute the people that they cannot honestly defeat in the political process.
00:21:23.660So that was done under the banner of an anti-corruption probe under the under the banner of transitional justice all over central and eastern Europe from about 2010 to 2016.
00:21:35.380And when Trump won the election here, that same flock of dirty diplomats took that same template that they had crafted in their little Frankensteinian incubator zone in central and eastern Europe and deployed that against Donald Trump.
00:21:51.180So lo and behold, Norm Eisen goes from doing that transitional justice strategy to win politics through prosecutors in central and eastern Europe.
00:21:58.160And then he takes it home to be, you know, Mr. Prosecute Trump here.
00:22:02.520And so it's no surprise that he would he would post that.
00:22:06.220I think what's so shocking about it is that he posted in the context of Alvin Bragg needing to keep his criminal case alive because prosecuting Trump is the only way to get rid of him because we can't beat him.
00:22:20.180Well, like you always say, there really is no, I think, sizable distinction between domestic and foreign policy.
00:22:26.240But I'm curious, your thoughts. There's a lot of discussion among the MSNBC crowds of the world saying how it was disinformation and misinformation that caused Kamala Harris to lose with the corollary to I think if they embrace that idea, logically, you would think that they'll double down on their censorship efforts and try to launch these programs.
00:22:47.300Probably globally, you know, probably globally, you've always tracked a lot of this comes, you know, from from British funding or British manpower.
00:22:53.820But I'm just curious your thoughts on how you think they will be able to continue to wage, you know, censorship warfare in a post Trump victory era.
00:23:05.400Yeah, they have two main strategies for this.
00:23:07.500There's there's the the the there's the state strategy and then there's the global strategy.
00:23:13.380So the state strategy is going to involve a whole swarm of new state laws, California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Illinois, all the big blue states.
00:23:24.260There's going to be a big push by the censorship industry activists there to codify laws that put restrictions on the kind of content that social media platforms can host.
00:23:34.540And their goal there is going to be to balkanize the country and create a sort of market disruption so that the only tech companies who are allowed to proliferate that kind of content there,
00:23:46.080lest they lose their ability to operate in the state or suffer heavy revenue fines, are going to be the ones who comply with those content restrictions.
00:23:54.160They're also going to use a push around something called media literacy, which is those states are going to box out social media platforms that allow free speech and box out news institutions like the like the War Room
00:24:07.700in order to prevent them from being accessed in public Wi-Fi's in order to be able to prevent them from being cited in in high school or middle school or elementary school exams.
00:24:18.980You already see this a major push to to start that effort began in 2021.
00:24:25.560It really began in 2017, but it's escalated dramatically in the past few years and it will fall on effectively the legal system to enforce the First Amendment against these states,
00:24:36.900which are going to try to create state level restrictions on what the platforms can host.
00:27:18.560They're going to find a way, like they always do, to outsource this warfare to whatever globalist entity it may be.
00:27:25.340Mike, if you can hang with us through the break, I want to get your thoughts on what you think the future of CISA should be.
00:27:31.000I know the war room, and I'm sure the audience joins me, fully endorses disbanding it.
00:27:36.180This country's been okay since 2018 without it.
00:27:39.260A lot of these problems started, I think, when we had CISA come up so they could, what, lie to us about election results?
00:27:45.560Because they're not doing very good on the cybersecurity stuff.
00:27:49.460I don't know about that, but maybe that's all by design, right?
00:27:52.020I think we also got Philip Patrick joining us, Mike Lindell.
00:27:55.380But more with Mike Benz and the, don't get me wrong, forthcoming massive amount of information and censorship warfare because you guys were so effective on November 5th.
00:28:09.500But, hey, it's a fight we're willing to fight.
00:29:45.600Actually, my foundation, FFO, is going to be putting out a comprehensive list of every single government department, every single government agency, and every single government program involved in Internet censorship.
00:29:58.340From the State Department, to the Pentagon, to the IC, to the National Endowment for Democracy, to USAID, to HHS, to DOJ, to DHS, to the National Science Foundation.
00:30:09.520That will be published next week, and we will continue to update and add more details for interested citizens to find out more at some point next week.
00:30:28.580CISA is one of the most corrupt institutions in its infant history.
00:30:35.760It was only created in late 2018, basically just in time for the 2018 midterms.
00:30:41.380It was created as a sort of political accident because of the intensity of Russiagate and the idea that we needed to secure our cyber systems against Russian hacking of the DNC-type events,
00:30:57.600which turned out to not even necessarily be charitable and say it was—at best, it's unsubstantiated.
00:31:07.760At worst, it's the opposite of what happened.
00:31:11.360But the fact is, is CISA is a laundromat for rogue actors in the CIA and NSA to get domestic jurisdiction for black ops.
00:31:20.760And very quickly, it was only born again in 2018, and by mid-2020, they had already seized long-arm jurisdiction over all opinions on the entire Internet by U.S. citizens
00:31:35.060by mission creeping their way from saying that cyber threats, cybersecurity has to cover tweets containing misinformation or disinformation or malinformation,
00:31:46.580true facts that simply lead people to a misleading conclusion.
00:31:50.760Because tweets on the Internet containing misinformation or YouTube videos or Facebook posts undermine public faith and confidence in our democratic institutions,
00:32:00.060which are required for a healthy democracy.
00:32:03.660And so it's really, if you tweet that Trump is innocent of Russiagate,
00:32:08.460then you are committing a cyber attack on the integrity of the Justice Department,
00:32:14.380which is a hallowed institution of our democracy.
00:32:18.700And so it needs to be censored by our cybersecurity agency.
00:32:23.300This is the sort of thing that the CIA and NSA would not be able to get away with because they're not allowed to target domestically.
00:32:29.100But if you take a bunch of rogue hackers and rogue black ops planners from CIA or from NSA,
00:32:36.000and you park them at DHS, suddenly everyone from coast to coast becomes a fair game target as long as they are allowed to operate.
00:32:46.680This is not some hallowed institution that's been around for 250 years like the State Department or like the Defense Department itself.
00:32:53.760It is a brand new baby and it has been a twisted little sister from the day it was born.
00:32:58.940This thing needs to go back in the box and if they want to continue to have some domestic role in cybersecurity,
00:33:06.940they should put their names in a resume and apply for it or apply for themselves in a brand new congressional vote
00:33:13.260and see if that holds up in a democratic vote at that point.
00:33:18.160But for now, the first step is saying sayonara to censorship.
00:33:22.980Mike, we'll definitely have to have you back on when you put that report out.
00:33:28.340In the meantime, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything you're working on,
00:37:27.200It's going to involve temporary hardship, but it will create long-term prosperity.
00:37:32.200I've been waiting to hear these words for four years, and I'm very excited.
00:37:36.920We have good leadership, but it's going to be a very tough job.
00:37:42.540Obviously, the debt ceiling deal is sort of a poison pill.
00:37:46.240You already have Powell saying he doesn't want to step down.
00:37:49.020What are other roadblocks that you think this audience needs to be on the lookout for when it comes particularly to fiscal issues, the economy?
00:37:56.040Look, I think the Federal Reserve are not looking like they're wanting to play ball.
00:38:03.620We're seeing debt financing increasing, even though the feds are dropping interest rates.
00:38:08.700Jerome Powell obviously saying he's not going to step down.
00:38:11.840If he starts to say, look, Trump's policies, tariffs are inflationary.
00:38:15.040That may be a rationale to keep rates higher and obviously restrict growth in the economy.
00:38:21.580But I think he's going to be dealing a lot with a lot of it.
00:38:25.940And we've just got to remember the problems that he's inherited.
00:52:43.200I want to warn you of a huge change that could be coming to our money and our bank accounts.
00:52:49.420First, think back to 9-11, shortly after the government pushed through the Patriot Act.
00:52:53.920This gave the government power to spy on innocent Americans by monitoring our phone and email and tracking our movement across the Internet.
00:53:01.420Now, Jim Rickards, editor of the independent financial newsletter Strategic Intelligence and New York Times bestselling author, is warning about a coming event that could elevate this governmental surveillance to a terrifying new level.
00:53:15.480In fact, some of the guests I've had on The War Room believe that the government will soon expand their powers to track our every move.
00:53:22.880If we say the wrong things on social media, donate to the wrong causes, buy firearms, or even vote MAGA, the government may be able to shut us out of our bank accounts.
00:53:33.900I can't say for sure if this will happen, but it's an interesting and dire warning.
00:53:39.440Fortunately, Jim Rickards, an American patriot and friend of mine, has made it his mission to educate us on what he believes is coming and how to protect yourself from the possibility of programmable money.
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