Bannon's War Room - Episode 4064： The Elite Should Be Panicked

00:00:00.000 days and weeks, Republicans are going to be asked to confirm appointees who don't agree

00:00:07.400 with their ideological views or priorities and who all the Republicans know are not up

00:00:13.480 to any of the jobs they've been tapped to do.

00:00:16.200 But none of that is the point, is it?

00:00:19.080 Here's how Steve Bannon reacted to the choice of Matt Gaetz as AT.

00:00:23.620 Matt Gaetz is the fiercest of the fierce warriors.

00:00:26.760 He is the firebrand of firebrands.

00:00:28.680 He's going to hit the Department of Justice with a blowtorch.

00:00:34.200 And that blowtorch is a guy named Matt Gaetz.

00:00:38.800 I could say a lot of things about Bannon, but at least he says it all out loud, right?

00:00:44.140 And he's been saying it for years.

00:00:47.040 Trump's picks are part of this project that Bannon has described for years now publicly

00:00:53.380 as the destruction of the administrative state,

00:00:56.460 the fulfillment of a vision Bannon has been fighting for for years.

00:01:01.460 Here he is making that point earlier today.

00:01:05.020 We're going to burn some of these institutions down to the ground because you know why?

00:01:08.880 They need to be burned down to the ground.

00:01:10.860 I think Bannon started with this effort, which, again, was always out in the open of destroying the administrative state.

00:01:21.480 If I remember the reporting correctly, with a whiteboard in his West Wing office during the short time that he was in the administration.

00:01:28.600 And it may have taken longer to arrive at this, but it seems very intentional that the cabinet picks from Trump are meant to divide newsrooms

00:01:37.020 and send them chasing their tails to see if the ethics investigation into Gaetz is going to break or Tulsi Gabbard's comments that even Sean Hannity found offensive

00:01:45.700 are going to get any reaction from the mighty Senate Republicans or if Peg says myriad scandals are going to.

00:01:53.680 I mean, it seems that the sum of the reaction to those is intended to advance the broader project of Bannon's.

00:02:01.360 I think that the first time that Steve Bannon ever said the phrase, and it actually is the deconstruction of the administrative state,

00:02:11.620 which is the same thing as the destruction of it.

00:02:13.280 But I think the first time he said it out loud to everybody in the world was in February of 2017 at CPAC,

00:02:20.060 where he was the Trump forces were ascendant at that point.

00:02:25.300 Steve was in the White House at that point, and he was, I think, interviewed on stage at CPAC by Reince Priebus,

00:02:31.360 or at least was on stage with Reince Priebus, but I think it was Priebus talking to Bannon,

00:02:35.380 and Bannon talked about the big priorities in the Trump term.

00:02:38.800 He talked about nationalism in terms of foreign policy.

00:02:41.680 He talked about nationalism in terms of economic policy.

00:02:43.980 And then the third thing he talked about was this deconstruction of the administrative state.

00:02:48.700 And, you know, it's a, the one thing you can, Steve is not only someone who's been saying this out loud forever,

00:02:54.880 for, you know, through that entire, from the moment they walked in the doors there in January of 2017

00:02:59.400 until now, when he was out, when Trump was out of office.

00:03:03.520 He's also someone who's very, who is unlike Donald Trump, an extraordinarily well-read and sophisticated thinker.

00:03:11.520 And when I say sophisticated, I don't want anybody to think that that means I think he's a good thing

00:03:15.640 in terms of some of these thoughts.

00:03:17.440 But, I mean, he is someone who has thought a lot about this stuff.

00:03:20.500 He's read his, he's read his Lenin. 0.76

00:03:22.440 And that's what this is, really.

00:03:23.780 It's a Leninist project.

00:03:25.760 And I think to your point, Nicole, I think there's a lot of things going on with these, with these.

00:03:30.080 Some of it is directed at the media.

00:03:32.060 And that's the frame that you were just putting on it, which is to create chaos in terms of how we cover it.

00:03:36.520 But it's also, really importantly, these are tests of the Republicans in the Senate.

00:03:44.260 It is not a coincidence that Trump dropped the Matt Gaetz announcement to basically break up John Thune's welcome party,

00:03:52.000 his victory party, as having won his majority leader on the Senate side, on the Republican Senate side.

00:03:57.260 It was like dropping a turd in his punch bowl at his party, basically, and sort of saying,

00:04:03.940 OK, this is the most unacceptable or among the most unacceptable people you could ever put in this job.

00:04:10.520 Now, Mr. Thune, pass him, please.

00:04:13.240 And unlike their leadership vote, which is a secret vote, Trump did not want John Thune to be leader.

00:04:18.700 He would rather have had Rick Scott or John Cornyn.

00:04:21.220 This is not a secret vote.

00:04:22.500 This is a public vote.

00:04:23.340 So now every Republican senator is facing the same dynamic that they faced every other time in Trump's political history,

00:04:30.080 which is do what I say or I will bring the wrath of MAGA down on you.

00:04:34.980 And I think even in this negotiation, we're seeing go back and forth on the question of recess appointments.

00:04:40.480 He is testing the Senate and he's trying to make it clear that either you will be my rubber stamp willingly

00:04:45.960 or you will be my rubber stamp because I force you to be my rubber stamp.

00:04:49.160 He's trying to take away advice and consent from the Senate effectively.

00:04:52.880 And you saw John Thune last night with Brett Baier on Fox News and he said, well, I'd really rather do it the normal way.

00:04:58.780 We hope we can do it the normal way.

00:05:00.000 But the last words out of his mouth were nothing's off the table, meaning doing these things by recess appointment is on the table.

00:05:06.440 And you can already see a very familiar dynamic where Donald Trump may end up incredibly, I mean, just mind bogglingly.

00:05:14.360 He might not be getting his way on these nominees.

00:05:16.400 Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard, even RFK Jr. to run these departments.

00:05:20.820 These complaints and these concerns that we are airing right now are actually there's a catch 22 here.

00:05:25.320 They are fueling Trump world to double down on these nominees because what they what we see as legitimate concerns about the lack of experience,

00:05:34.540 about the capacity to handle the jobs they look at as virtues.

00:05:37.800 They want these people to not just disrupt government, but to totally upend the agencies they're supposed to be running.

00:05:44.660 And that complemented with whatever Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are doing at their doji department is going to likely end up being a massive,

00:05:56.080 massive revamping of the government and shuttering of even whole agencies within departments.

00:06:02.960 And so I think we're sort of underselling the radical transformation that might be coming.

00:06:07.820 Well, you know, it it is.

00:06:12.040 Again, you go back to what Steve Bannon said back in 2016, said, I'm a Leninist.

00:06:20.400 I want to destroy the state.

00:06:23.260 We'll we'll we'll see how that moves forward.

00:06:26.500 But again, because so many of these selections forget about what Democrats are saying, forget about what the media is saying.

00:06:33.880 Just look at what Rupert Murdoch's newspapers are saying.

00:06:37.860 Look at what Republican senators are saying.

00:06:40.580 I mean, we've talked about the Wall Street Journal editorial page being very critical of several of these selections that we're talking about.

00:06:47.660 But even the New York Post had an editorial that, of course, the show talked about on Friday that called RFK Jr.

00:06:55.580 I basically a nut job that he had crazy ideas, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

00:07:01.200 So forget it's like during the campaign to said, don't listen to what Kamala Harris is saying.

00:07:06.980 Listen to what Donald Trump is saying and judge him by that.

00:07:10.060 But here, I would just say, don't listen to what Democrats or the media is saying.

00:07:15.360 If you want to hear critiques of, you know, some of these nominations, listen to what the New York Post is saying, what the Wall Street Journal editorial page is saying.

00:07:26.980 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:07:31.860 Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.

00:07:35.820 Here's what I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:07:41.440 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:07:43.400 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:07:44.820 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:07:47.460 It's going to happen.

00:07:48.740 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:07:52.140 Mega media.

00:07:53.500 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:07:58.860 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:08:02.040 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:08:09.080 War Room.

00:08:09.880 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:08:11.940 Band.

00:08:17.660 It's Monday, 18 November, year of early, 2024.

00:08:20.440 I want to thank our own Natalie Winters.

00:08:22.700 Natalie, thank you so much for sitting in for the first hour.

00:08:25.280 I appreciate if you hang around just here momentarily as we get into it.

00:08:29.420 I got Mike Davis, Darren Beattie, Jeff Clark's going to join us.

00:08:32.720 It's game on.

00:08:34.300 As I said over the weekend of the speeches I gave at Mar-a-Lago on Friday morning or Friday

00:08:39.100 afternoon and then back here in D.C. on Friday night, President Trump took a bullet to the

00:08:45.100 head and then four months later won a landslide victory.

00:08:48.240 He gets to pick who's in his government.

00:08:51.060 I want to start with Darren Beattie.

00:08:52.260 I got the Mike Davis.

00:08:53.380 Jeff Clark's going to join us with an amazing piece coming out of Center for Renewing America

00:08:57.360 about the recess appointments and President Trump's ability to actually force the action

00:09:03.100 there.

00:09:03.740 Darren, total meltdown over the weekend.

00:09:06.300 It's obvious President Trump is not just getting disruptors.

00:09:09.260 If you take the doge aspect of this, of rethinking the government and finding a trillion dollars

00:09:15.420 led by Elon and Vivek, if you couple that with now a CR is going to get kicked in, so President

00:09:21.400 Trump will get a chance to do this first budget.

00:09:24.940 And if you look at the quality of people of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Hegseth at Defense,

00:09:31.580 and particularly Matt Gaetz, the Matt Gaetz at Justice, because that's the key one, you see

00:09:37.780 that people are serious about basically taking this government apart and getting it back to

00:09:42.740 a limited government with maximum liberty for her citizens.

00:09:47.320 Darren Beattie.

00:09:48.660 A hundred percent.

00:09:49.500 Now we have a huge piece up at revolver.news, which is the definitive piece, not only on why

00:09:54.720 Matt Gaetz is the sole individual to run the DOJ, but a list of very creative and very impactful

00:10:01.780 ideas of what could actually get done.

00:10:03.820 So I encourage everyone, revolver.news, this is the definitive piece.

00:10:08.580 Before we get into what Attorney General Gaetz will be able to do, just some of the things,

00:10:14.180 I think the table setting part is important.

00:10:16.660 First of all, we hear this term democracy from the people who have done nothing but subvert

00:10:22.820 the democratic process and will of the people for basically since Trump entered the political

00:10:28.340 stage.

00:10:28.980 If a man can run against the coordinated hostility of every single corrupt and powerful institution

00:10:36.900 in the country, if he can sustain smears, if he can sustain an avalanche of politically

00:10:43.180 motivated sham lawfare attacks, if he can get a bullet in the head and survive, and if

00:10:50.640 he can deliver an historic victory, including the popular vote, and he's not able to appoint

00:10:57.060 the people that he needs who have the requisite intelligence and courage to implement the mandate

00:11:03.140 that the American people delivered, this is not a democracy.

00:11:06.900 This is not a country.

00:11:08.540 And I celebrate all of these appointments, but I really think, and I've always thought from

00:11:13.220 the beginning, DOJ is the most important appointment.

00:11:17.920 So the fact that he picked Matt Gaetz to be at the DOJ, that symbolically sets the tone.

00:11:25.320 It sets the narrative that contextualizes all of these other exceptional appointments.

00:11:31.020 We've learned from the past, the presidency can only be as strong as the DOJ.

00:11:37.820 What was the Achilles heel from the very beginning was an attorney general wasn't up to the task.

00:11:43.660 Because you need, if anyone you need to be loyal and a fighter, you need that person running

00:11:50.360 the DOJ.

00:11:51.460 And so that's why it's so critical for Matt Gaetz.

00:11:54.500 This is the line in the sand.

00:11:57.000 This is not negotiable.

00:11:58.860 He will be confirmed.

00:12:00.500 He must be confirmed.

00:12:03.040 Start saying this.

00:12:04.760 I love the way that Darren said it.

00:12:06.220 It's the attorney general, Matt Gaetz.

00:12:08.880 He is going to be confirmed.

00:12:10.620 A democracy, I just want to go back, something I made in these speeches, the left, the controllers

00:12:16.840 of the apparatus, the controllers of the system, the elite globalists, they put democracy on

00:12:25.500 the ballot.

00:12:26.140 They force it, it was even higher than abortion. 0.70

00:12:29.180 They put democracy on the ballot and the American people rendered a verdict.

00:12:33.960 They said, we want Donald Trump's version of this.

00:12:37.920 And Donald Trump's version of this is to get the state out of your grill, to deconstruct

00:12:44.020 the administrative state.

00:12:45.240 Like the Supreme Court has backed us up with the Chevron deference ruling that Judge Gorsuch

00:12:53.000 drove.

00:12:53.560 Beattie, hang on for a second. 1.00

00:12:55.120 Let me bring in Davis.

00:12:56.660 Davis, everything has been going towards, just not Jeff Sessions, who was maybe not the

00:13:01.900 guy up to the task.

00:13:02.620 But there's a different mindset here about what the Justice Department can do and the

00:13:07.680 quality of the team coming around.

00:13:09.520 We just got to make sure we have killers.

00:13:11.000 I got about a minute.

00:13:12.480 Give me your summary and I'm going to bring you back at the top of the next block, sir.

00:13:16.760 Matt Gaetz is exactly the type of a bold, fearless reformer we need in the Justice Department.

00:13:23.960 Matt Gaetz has demonstrated that he's willing to take on sacred cows.

00:13:29.100 He took on big tech.

00:13:30.460 He was the tip of the spear in the House of Representatives on bipartisan antitrust reforms

00:13:36.460 to take on Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple.

00:13:40.380 He also took on the Republican establishment, including Speaker Kevin McCarthy.

00:13:44.860 And so you have Republicans in D.C. hate him as well.

00:13:49.280 So that makes me think he is the best pick for President Trump.

00:13:55.120 Mike Davis is with us.

00:13:56.900 Darren Beattie from Revolver News.

00:13:58.440 Mike Davis is from Article 3.

00:14:00.520 We're going to be joined with a brilliant paper written about these recess appointments.

00:14:05.140 The one and only Jeff Clark, also Jim Rickards, is going to join us.

00:14:10.120 We're here in the war room.

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00:14:18.240 No Secretary of Treasury picked.

00:14:20.520 No head of the National Economic Council picked.

00:14:22.820 President Trump is going through and thinking through, not his plan.

00:14:28.160 I think he's got his plan.

00:14:29.680 He's thinking through, you know, the team like he's got a justice.

00:14:33.620 The justice team will have Mike Davis coming and comment, you know, the lawyers of justice

00:14:38.600 who are crying and weeping as NBC News reports on election night are now all leaving in a flood.

00:14:45.640 Good riddance.

00:14:46.920 Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

00:14:50.140 Just make sure you preserve your documents, right?

00:14:52.340 Don't go to any shredder.

00:14:54.120 But the team that's coming together is extraordinary.

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00:16:13.460 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:16:15.700 Bannon.

00:16:16.020 Okay, welcome at birchgold.com slash Bannon.

00:16:21.720 Make sure you go check it out and talk to Philip Patrick and the team.

00:16:24.500 It's going to be a little turbulence.

00:16:26.400 It's going to have to be, as you know, because Biden, hey, yesterday or over the weekend,

00:16:31.980 it allowed Zelensky to start launching those long-range missiles or medium-range missiles,

00:16:36.520 I guess they are, that we gave them into Russia.

00:16:39.420 You know, World War III is not going to happen there, is it?

00:16:41.900 Mike Davis, you did confirmations of the most important confirmations, even more important

00:16:48.220 than cabinet positions, Supreme Court justices.

00:16:50.400 So you're an expert in this, on the confirmation process.

00:16:54.320 But you're also an expert at Article III and your time in town here.

00:16:58.120 In fact, Gates is so unacceptable.

00:17:00.620 On MSNBC the other day, they actually referred to, I don't think they went as far as Clark.

00:17:06.740 I think they went as far as you and pay a letter.

00:17:09.140 Oh, those guys are acceptable.

00:17:10.440 They went in the Senate.

00:17:12.600 Talk to me about the team that you see Gates pulling together over justice and some recommendations

00:17:19.040 you've got, because we've got to keep all gas, no brake, all pedal to the metal, no brake

00:17:24.980 in this.

00:17:25.520 What do you got for me?

00:17:27.060 Well, look what we've done, Steve.

00:17:28.360 I've spent, what, the last two years on your show trolling the left, that I'm going to

00:17:33.540 be the acting attorney general and all the crazy stuff that I was saying.

00:17:38.260 We've shifted the Overton window so much now that with Matt Gates as the pick, he's such

00:17:44.720 a bold and fearless reformer that now MSNBC thinks Mike Davis is suddenly acceptable.

00:17:51.320 That tells you we've got the right guy with Matt Gates.

00:17:54.620 He's been on the House Judiciary Committee.

00:17:57.560 He's been in Washington long enough to know how the place works, but he is definitely

00:18:05.340 an outsider in Washington.

00:18:07.220 He is despised by the swamp creatures in Washington because Matt Gates is bold.

00:18:12.620 He's fearless.

00:18:13.200 He took on big tech.

00:18:14.940 He took on the Republican establishment, including Kevin McCarthy.

00:18:19.680 So there are a lot of dives out for Matt Gates, and that makes him an ideal pick to go into

00:18:25.180 the Justice Department to bring serious reforms to the Justice Department.

00:18:30.240 We need to end this weaponization of intel agencies and law enforcement, and that is going

00:18:35.080 to require accountability, investigations, and if appropriate, prosecutions of this Democrat

00:18:41.460 lawfare and election interference going back to Obama with Crossfire Hurricane and an ongoing

00:18:48.060 criminal conspiracy with Hunter Biden's laptop and these four indictments and naming Trump

00:18:53.980 as an unindicted co-conspirator in Arizona and the New York Attorney General's office's

00:18:58.760 civil fraud lawsuit.

00:19:00.360 But OK, OK, here's here's you know, we've had Davis on here for two years now, going to

00:19:06.240 three years as the viceroy.

00:19:08.780 And, you know, when they they always cut clips, they got Davis up here and myself and there's

00:19:12.560 all these crazy people were yelling, screaming about investigations.

00:19:15.580 NBC News.

00:19:16.500 Not Gateway Pundit, not Breitbart, right?

00:19:20.580 Not the National Pulse, not Revolver.

00:19:22.600 NBC News reports this morning that Merrick Garland was stunned on election night and that

00:19:29.740 senior Justice Department officials were weeping.

00:19:33.880 That's up on the stack.

00:19:35.180 If you go to Citizens Free Press right now in Kane, what does that tell you, Davis?

00:19:40.560 That and they're all worried about going bankrupt, lawyering up, you know, like none of us had

00:19:46.320 to pay millions of dollars of legal fees or some people like Rudy are actually going into

00:19:51.220 bankruptcy because of it.

00:19:53.640 What does it tell you when NBC News reports a well-reported, deeply sourced story that

00:19:59.700 they're panicked over at Maine Justice, sir?

00:20:02.840 They should be panicked.

00:20:04.560 They should be fearful.

00:20:05.600 They should be crying because they have politicized and weaponized our justice systems at every 0.85

00:20:12.300 level.

00:20:12.680 They did this with the intel agencies with Crossfire Hurricane.

00:20:16.320 And these people who participated in this unprecedented republic-ending lawfare on election

00:20:21.980 interference against President Trump, his top aides like you, Steve Bannon, and Peter

00:20:26.480 Navarro, who went to prison, his supporters on January 6th who were politically persecuted

00:20:31.540 under the Supreme Court's Fisher decision, parents getting targeted by the Biden FBI for raising

00:20:41.420 hell about gender chaos in schools and the resulting rapes in high school bathrooms. 1.00

00:20:46.080 They sent pro-life Christians, including a 75-year-old Christian to prison under the FACE Act because

00:20:54.120 of this corrupt civil rights division by the Biden-Harris Justice Department, Kristen Clark, 0.97

00:20:58.800 who's corrupt, who perjured herself to get the job, right?

00:21:02.660 There has to be accountability for what happens.

00:21:05.200 So I'm glad that they're fearful.

00:21:07.140 I'm glad that they're crying.

00:21:09.020 They should lawyer up because nobody is above the law, as they always told us.

00:21:13.400 And if they didn't commit a crime, they have no reason to be fearful.

00:21:16.620 They have no reason to be crying, right?

00:21:17.940 Because, of course, you don't prosecute for non-crimes, do you?

00:21:22.100 So, Darren Beattie, the centrality of Gates and what Gates brings, because remember, we

00:21:30.860 fought long-eyes with Matt Gates before taking down the Speaker of the House, winning in

00:21:35.740 22, the midterms, where Gates was central to, getting the appropriations bill, all the

00:21:42.200 structural changes that Matt Gates made.

00:21:44.200 Why is Matt Gates the key that picks a lot here?

00:21:47.060 Of all these other great choices, why is he central?

00:21:50.080 And why is it an imperative that we show strength by not having a recess appointment on him,

00:21:56.840 but we actually get him passed by the United States Senate, sir?

00:22:00.240 Well, I think a number of things.

00:22:02.660 First of all, he has a demonstrated and unwavering loyalty, not only to Trump, but to the MAGA

00:22:09.180 agenda that was just approved by an historic majority by the electorate.

00:22:15.460 This is the mandate.

00:22:17.100 This is part of the mandate.

00:22:18.620 So I think that loyalty is critical.

00:22:21.040 And like I alluded to earlier, we've seen in previous instances how a weak and disloyal

00:22:28.280 AG can severely cripple the presidency.

00:22:35.360 Weak AGs have traditionally been the Achilles heel of the presidency as far as Trump.

00:22:41.320 And so I think this is why part of the reason why Trump is, quote, all in on the Gates confirmation,

00:22:47.500 because he understands how central it is, how indispensable it is to have someone who is loyal

00:22:55.120 not only to him, but to the agenda that the American people resoundingly approved, how critical

00:23:01.680 that is to getting the job done more generally.

00:23:05.020 Because if you're bogged down in all of this nonsense like he was in the first term, that

00:23:10.680 not only affects what's going on in the DOJ, that affects the bandwidth that you have to

00:23:16.000 implement the agenda across the institutions of government.

00:23:21.280 So that's why it's really critical.

00:23:23.360 And also about Gates is, yes, he's a firebrand.

00:23:26.780 Yes, he's a disruptor.

00:23:28.040 But he's also an exceptionally acute lawyer.

00:23:31.520 He understands how to do things.

00:23:33.400 This isn't just someone who's going to go in and break things willy nilly.

00:23:37.000 There's a surgical aspect to his intelligence.

00:23:39.640 He knows what to do.

00:23:41.120 He knows how to deal with the media.

00:23:42.700 But he also knows how to deal with the bureaucracy.

00:23:44.900 He knows how to navigate it.

00:23:46.340 And I think that's also what's going to make him tremendously effective.

00:23:50.600 You know, in our piece at Revolver News, we had just a couple of creative things that

00:23:55.720 if you have someone who's open to creative thinking, can absolutely do.

00:24:00.360 You know, in the first term, there was a religious liberty task force in the DOJ.

00:24:05.020 There can be a First Amendment task force now.

00:24:07.640 It's kind of a nerve center to deal with all of the censorship and First Amendment issues.

00:24:12.160 And even if it comes out, as it has a bit in the Twitter files, that there have been people

00:24:17.660 violating the law in terms of the First Amendment, you can go after them.

00:24:21.300 Here's one of my favorite ideas, False Claims Act.

00:24:25.400 It's a very little known act that dates back to the Civil War.

00:24:28.560 But effectively, what it says is it gives any potential whistleblower standing to expose

00:24:34.920 fraud against the government.

00:24:36.460 Now, this is traditionally used for health care, in the health care arena, in tax arena.

00:24:42.700 But there's no reason this can't be extended, for instance, to say, if universities say they're

00:24:48.940 not doing affirmative action, and they actually are, people can expose this and get a bounty.

00:24:53.720 So, Darren, hang on one second.

00:24:58.560 President Trump and Jeff Clark jump in at breaking.

00:25:02.020 Trump has told Senate Majority Leader Thune that if Matt Gaetz is not confirmed by the

00:25:06.100 Senate, he will appoint him using the Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998.

00:25:12.080 Now, you just wrote a piece on the power of the executive branch on these resource appointments.

00:25:18.240 Jeff Clark, Mike, if you and Darren can hang on for a second.

00:25:22.440 Is that along the lines of where President Trump just tweeted this out, or is there something

00:25:26.040 different?

00:25:27.640 That's different from the recess appointment clause.

00:25:30.240 So, President Trump has both tools in his quiver, Steve.

00:25:34.920 He has the recess appointment power, which is a constitutional power.

00:25:38.720 And then he has the Congress giving him power under the Federal Vacancies Reform Act, or what

00:25:44.420 we call the FBRA, that allows putting in officials temporarily.

00:25:49.580 So, both things exist.

00:25:53.260 And, you know, I'd actually written some internal papers and done a lot of research about the

00:25:57.860 FBRA as well, so I know how that works.

00:26:00.300 And the last thing I would say is that, you know, Darren Beatty got on talking about the

00:26:04.420 False Claims Act.

00:26:05.520 That was the act that the Civil Division administered, which I had charge of during the Trump administration

00:26:10.220 at the end.

00:26:11.480 And also, the Civil Division has charge of defending FBRA challenges, and we faced a lot

00:26:17.540 of them against Chad Wolf, especially at the Department of Homeland Security.

00:26:22.740 So, this is a key tool that President Trump also has to fill out his cabinet and subcabinet.

00:26:29.980 Does your paper, and we'll get it at it, does your paper and analysis say that basically

00:26:34.320 President Trump can force the hands of both houses of Congress to basically put him into

00:26:39.720 recess, and then he does his recess appointments?

00:26:42.260 I just want to make sure that, Rachel, that Nicole Wallace's head blows up appropriately

00:26:47.260 today for her show.

00:26:48.920 Are you saying that President Trump can actually force the houses into recess and do his appointments

00:26:53.200 then?

00:26:54.620 So, Steve, under the Constitution, if the two houses disagree about whether to adjourn or

00:27:01.120 stay in session, then the president has the power to send them into recess, both houses,

00:27:06.620 for as long as he sees fit.

00:27:08.420 So, it's a very important power.

00:27:09.960 It hasn't been wielded in the past before, but the framers were keen on giving that power

00:27:15.340 to the president.

00:27:16.080 It's an analog of a power that existed at English law.

00:27:22.520 Hang on for one second.

00:27:24.620 Darren Beattie, the founder, editor, publisher of Revolver News.

00:27:29.500 Mike Davis, the founder of Article 3, and the individual who got the Supreme Court justices,

00:27:35.840 Kavanaugh and Gorsuch, confirmed with Don McGahn and Grassley's staff, all of it, a warrior.

00:27:41.420 And Jeff Clark, who is a senior leader in the Justice Department under President Trump and

00:27:50.160 a warrior.

00:27:51.280 We're going to take a short commercial break.

00:27:53.040 We're going to return in a moment.

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00:29:17.640 Here's your host, Stephen K.

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00:29:23.040 Blockbuster news for this audience.

00:29:25.540 Our own Cash Patel, just named the director of the FBI.

00:29:30.180 I want to start with Mike Davis on this one.

00:29:33.400 Mike, you got Gates.

00:29:35.080 And President Trump, whether he's got to use the Appointments Act of 1998 or use for the

00:29:42.920 first time in the history of forcing him into going to recess, President Trump's laid down.

00:29:51.240 Matt Gates is going to be his attorney general.

00:29:53.720 He doesn't want to hear any gruff about it.

00:29:55.200 What about Cash Patel?

00:29:56.540 Think of the Touchdown Twins.

00:29:58.320 Gates at Main Justice, at DOJ, and Cash Patel at FBI, sir.

00:30:04.980 Cash Patel is another grand slam pick by President Trump to lead the FBI, the most broken and corrupt

00:30:13.860 institution in Washington, D.C.

00:30:16.980 Cash has serious legal credentials, serious national security credentials, and he will go

00:30:25.700 in there and make the necessary reforms to fix the FBI that has been so badly politicized

00:30:33.240 and weaponized against Trump, his top aides, his allies since at least Crossfire Hurricane,

00:30:41.040 the biggest scandal in American history where the Obama-Biden administration weaponized the FBI and intel

00:30:50.840 agencies to go after Trump on Crossfire Hurricane because Hillary had her illegal home server as Secretary of State

00:30:58.020 hacked with our nation's most classified secrets and her foreign bribery schemes.

00:31:03.840 And that's what this lawfare against Trump is all about.

00:31:06.980 It's an ongoing criminal conspiracy starting under Crossfire Hurricane.

00:31:11.340 Cash is the perfect pick.

00:31:13.360 He has the experience.

00:31:15.260 He has the competence.

00:31:16.440 He has the loyalty to go clean house at the FBI.

00:31:21.720 I don't want to say it's because of his book and then the movie we did.

00:31:25.660 I produced Government Gangsters, but we'll make sure we show that.

00:31:28.660 Just hang on, Mike.

00:31:30.340 Hang with me for one minute.

00:31:31.280 I'm going to talk about other people.

00:31:32.420 Darren Beattie, you've been in the trenches.

00:31:34.760 You were the only professor at an Ivy League or Ivy League equivalent university that endorsed publicly

00:31:42.920 President Trump in 2016.

00:31:44.520 Your reward for that was that you got thrown out and vilified and they tried to crush you.

00:31:49.840 You came to the White House.

00:31:50.600 You were a superstar.

00:31:51.920 You've been in the trenches, fixed bayonets with us for many years.

00:31:56.120 Your thoughts about the Cash Patel has now been nominated to be director of the FBI, sir.

00:32:01.020 Other than reiterate, he's the perfect guy.

00:32:06.940 Again, he's somebody who has the intelligence and the capability to do what needs to be done.

00:32:13.300 If I could offer my own kind of personal wish list, which I think he is very interested in doing because we've talked about it and he's been on board with it.

00:32:22.480 You know, the FBI is the epicenter of the cover up for the January 6th fed surrection.

00:32:28.620 In fact, it just came out that the head of the Washington field office lied to Congress when he told them that the telecom data was corrupted that could help identify this pipe bomber.

00:32:39.820 So this is just one of the many things that Patel will be in a position to do.

00:32:45.200 And I think he has every interest in doing that because this is the part of the deep cleaning process.

00:32:51.080 And the deep cleaning process is not just about exposing the criminals who have run the country into the ground.

00:32:57.260 It's about the arguably more important task of restoring much needed legitimacy to our institutions in this country.

00:33:07.720 Without this restoration process, the country will not be on a proper footing to dominate and thrive into the century.

00:33:16.640 The work that this administration will do with people like Patel, people like Matt Gaetz, people like Elon from the outside, the work that they're doing is critical to setting our nation on a footing for success into the century.

00:33:33.540 That's what the stakes are.

00:33:35.380 And that's why Trump, who understands those stakes, is not making any compromises in terms of his appointments.

00:33:41.960 And Kash Patel, just the latest of these excellent people that he's chosen to carry on this task.

00:33:52.460 Darren, where do people go to get the definitive piece on Matt Gaetz?

00:33:55.620 You must read it today, folks, and you must share it.

00:33:58.160 We need you to be back.

00:33:59.180 Force multipliers.

00:34:00.360 Where do they go, Darren?

00:34:02.200 Revolver.news.

00:34:03.680 This is a huge piece, not just why he's the guy to do it, but many, many creative and absolutely incisive

00:34:10.860 and effective things that you can do when you have someone like that at the helm.

00:34:15.440 Revolver.news.

00:34:16.640 Read it.

00:34:17.300 Share it.

00:34:19.680 OK, we're going to address this again in the five and six o'clock show tonight.

00:34:23.500 Darren Beattie, thank you very much.

00:34:25.360 Jeff Clark, you've had the jackboots of the FBI up in your grill in your house.

00:34:29.980 What are your first thoughts about the Kash Patel, nominated by Donald J. Trump to be the

00:34:37.660 director of the FBI to take the position of J. Edgar Hoover, sir?

00:34:43.340 First thought is congrats, Kash, my friend and former colleague at the Center for Renewing

00:34:49.300 America.

00:34:49.780 It's well-deserved.

00:34:51.340 Steve, Kash has an excellent background for this and a diverse background.

00:34:56.180 He comes from being a federal public defender.

00:34:59.120 He comes from being an attorney at the National Security Division of the Justice Department,

00:35:03.720 which was created in the wake of 9-11.

00:35:05.920 And so he has excellent national security credentials right there.

00:35:10.240 And then obviously we know that he exposed the Russia collusion hoax, working with Devin

00:35:14.880 Nunes as the key staffer over for Devin Nunes.

00:35:20.500 And Steve, did you have something to interrupt me with?

00:35:24.380 Yeah, hang on.

00:35:25.320 I'm just, I think, did we misread that?

00:35:26.920 He's not nominated.

00:35:27.640 They're saying that if he's nominated, he's going to destroy the FBI.

00:35:30.280 Daggone it.

00:35:32.260 It's not the, somebody sent me a tweet here.

00:35:35.200 I'm not saying it's false news.

00:35:36.660 He's not yet nominated.

00:35:38.760 Daggone it.

00:35:39.200 Okay.

00:35:39.540 If he is, if he does get this nomination, by the way, we got to get this nomination.

00:35:43.640 He should not be the deputy.

00:35:44.760 He's got to run.

00:35:45.400 The deputy runs the building, but cash has got to be the front page.

00:35:48.600 It's got to be the front porch of it.

00:35:50.160 How important is cash in doing that?

00:35:53.340 Well, I think cash would be great, Steve.

00:35:55.920 And so I'll hold back my congratulations until we see what the decision is.

00:36:01.100 Sorry.

00:36:01.440 Yeah, sorry.

00:36:03.760 But tell me about, hold it.

00:36:04.680 But for cash, there's some more, there's all this concern that, oh, they can't get, they

00:36:08.760 can't get confirmed.

00:36:11.180 Talk about, you got two, Trump's got two alternatives.

00:36:13.520 And he said, you just did the one in 1998 that he's going to, he's going to use the vacancies

00:36:18.740 act.

00:36:19.220 But yours is actually more aggressive.

00:36:21.120 What can President Trump do to get Gates confirmed and to get Patel confirmed if he needs it?

00:36:26.120 Well, before I unpack the recess appointments clause a little bit, Steve, let me say this.

00:36:31.580 It's even better than that because you can combine the two tools.

00:36:35.000 You could recess appoint somebody, and then that lasts basically for two years until the

00:36:40.100 end of the next session of Congress, each session being a year.

00:36:44.060 And then you can tack on another 210 days as acting after that under the Federal Vacancy

00:36:49.960 Reform Act.

00:36:50.660 So the tools are additive, you know, like a kind of Karpowl synergy. 0.65

00:36:55.220 So coming back to the recess appointments clause, the president has had this power since the

00:37:00.620 founding of the Constitution.

00:37:02.280 Hundreds and hundreds of recess appointments have been made in our history, including by

00:37:07.240 modern presidents.

00:37:08.580 And for some reason, you know, surprise, surprise, the media and a lot of the never-Trumper types

00:37:14.100 want to pretend that this is not a power that the president has, or if he exercises it, the

00:37:19.160 sky comes falling.

00:37:20.420 None of that is true.

00:37:21.340 And why is it that President Trump is looking at exercising that power now?

00:37:25.640 It's because the confirmation process, especially as to Republicans, has gotten out of control.

00:37:31.080 In my lifetime, I've seen Judge Bork, an honorable man, a Yale law professor, massive antitrust

00:37:37.780 theorist go down because of attacks.

00:37:40.240 I've seen Clarence Thomas, them nearly take him out with their high-tech lynching.

00:37:44.140 And I've seen them attempt to take out Brett Kavanaugh, which thankfully was stopped by

00:37:49.000 Mike Davis and others working with Justice Kavanaugh.

00:37:52.580 So in order to push back on that in the hurly-burly of the separation of powers, President Trump

00:37:57.740 is talking about using this recess appointments clause power.

00:38:01.620 And there are many of us who think that he should in order to set right the boundaries

00:38:06.140 between the branches of the government.

00:38:07.800 Davis, you've done confirmations in some of the toughest at the Supreme Court.

00:38:16.280 Is Clark right?

00:38:17.360 Is that the confirmation, is the confirmation process gotten so bad, particularly for Trump,

00:38:22.520 that he has to look at these, quite frankly, I guess, powers, but it looks like extraordinary

00:38:27.900 powers, sir, including this one that Clark writes about, that he could force, essentially

00:38:32.540 force Congress into recess and then do his recess appointments, sir?

00:38:35.660 Every option should be on the table.

00:38:38.420 I was the chief counsel for nominations for the first year and a half for 18 months of

00:38:43.140 Trump's administration.

00:38:44.880 And Jeff Clark was one of the nominees who languished in the Senate, along with many others,

00:38:49.600 for a senior Justice Department post.

00:38:52.740 And it was because the Democrats used every obstruction tactic they could.

00:38:57.400 They had the bogus Russian collusion hoax scaring the Republicans into thinking that Trump was

00:39:03.600 appointing all these Russian assets into these key posts.

00:39:07.320 And it's nonsense.

00:39:08.280 And we should not play their games this time.

00:39:11.020 I broke almost every piece of China in the Senate to make sure we confirmed President Trump's 0.94

00:39:17.840 nominees.

00:39:18.640 And we should not play games this time.

00:39:20.300 We should move forward.

00:39:21.800 And if they don't want to, if the Senate doesn't want to move forward on Trump's qualified

00:39:27.080 nominees, they have a constitutional duty in the Senate.

00:39:30.360 I get that.

00:39:30.840 They have to make sure that the people have good character and fitness and they're qualified,

00:39:35.060 but they should also defer to the president on his cabinet picks and his other senior executive

00:39:41.200 branch picks.

00:39:42.160 And if they want to obstruct, just to obstruct, then Trump needs to use the appointments, the

00:39:48.240 vacancy act and the recess appointments to get his people picked.

00:39:52.620 I would say this about Kash Patel.

00:39:55.220 He is very qualified for this job as the FBI, and he should get confirmed, and he should

00:40:01.240 get confirmed very quickly because he is very good at this job.

00:40:06.220 I know that Grassley's office, his chief counsel for oversight and investigations, thinks very

00:40:12.400 highly of Kash Patel and worked very closely with Kash Patel on Crossfire Hurricane and other

00:40:19.040 critical oversight, and knows Kash Patel is a very serious lawyer, a very serious national

00:40:25.840 security official, a very serious reformer.

00:40:29.160 Kash Patel is perfect to go reform the FBI, and I think he's going to have pretty strong

00:40:34.060 support on the Senate Judiciary Committee with Chairman Chuck Grassley's office, and that's

00:40:39.240 going to lead to his confirmation.

00:40:40.480 Jeff, how do we prepare the battlefield here?

00:40:46.200 Because you're bringing up something that nobody—I've never heard anybody address.

00:40:49.340 In fact, I didn't—I'm not an obviously expert anywhere near the people like the Mark

00:40:54.640 Levins and these people that understand the Constitution so deeply.

00:40:59.720 This is something, quite frankly, I haven't heard of before.

00:41:02.780 I haven't heard people talk about.

00:41:03.940 What do you think we need to do to push this out there and to get this into the conversation?

00:41:08.840 So, Steve, look, people should go to the Center for Renewing America website, americarenewing.com,

00:41:17.100 and you can find the paper there.

00:41:18.580 It's also out on all of the social medias, and it's already drawn an attempted rebuttal

00:41:23.520 piece from Ed Whelan, who was in the Bush Justice Department and, you know, who I consider

00:41:30.660 to be, you know, a friendly acquaintance.

00:41:33.800 Indeed, like back in that era, like our kids had played together on one occasion.

00:41:37.800 But, you know, I think he's wrong that the president doesn't have this power as President

00:41:43.560 Trump might try to exercise it.

00:41:45.320 He rushed out a piece on the National Review online to respond to my piece, which dropped

00:41:51.320 yesterday afternoon.

00:41:52.200 So people should go look at my piece, right?

00:41:54.040 We believe in healthy debate.

00:41:55.500 They should go look at Ed Whelan's piece, and they should look at, you know, back and

00:41:59.260 forth on Twitter about this with commentators and legal scholars.

00:42:03.440 And what I say is, look, the president clearly has this power.

00:42:07.420 And, Steve, I'll announce it here first.

00:42:09.660 Not only do we have this eight-page route, which is a summary that I think is accessible

00:42:14.160 by any intelligent layperson, we're going to drop a 35-plus-page paper, which is an extensive

00:42:21.220 analysis and proof of the same points.

00:42:23.480 And that's really aimed even more at the scholarly community.

00:42:26.800 So wait for that.

00:42:27.620 Wow.

00:42:29.480 Hang for a second.

00:42:30.760 Where do people get you, Jeff?

00:42:32.000 I know you've got to bounce.

00:42:33.000 Where do they get your social media and your Hangout over at CRA?

00:42:37.200 Sure.

00:42:37.660 So on X and Getter, I'm at JeffClarkUS, and on Truth Social at RealJeffClark, and the Center

00:42:44.720 for Renewing America is americarenewing.com.

00:42:49.720 Davis, I'll have you back on about the appointees.

00:42:51.840 Where do they go?

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00:44:37.820 Okay, Jim Rickards joins us.

00:44:42.200 Jim, you've had, I call them the five horsemen of the deep state apocalypse led by Matt Gaetz at AG.

00:44:50.140 It looks like there's some stirring with Cash Patel, either to be deputy or FBI director or there's something going on.

00:44:57.340 Andrew Bailey of the AG of Missouri name also kicked around, but something's happening over there.

00:45:03.180 Give your sense, you've been in and out of the intelligence community, you know capital markets very well.

00:45:10.980 They're in total meltdown, not just the mainstream media, but inside the apparatus here in D.C.

00:45:16.360 Your thoughts on President Trump's first wave brother?

00:45:19.160 First of all, it stands in really marked contrast in a good way compared to 2016.

00:45:26.520 We don't have to revisit all that, but he had a couple good appointments and got sidetracked with these, you know, Kelly and McMaster and all that.

00:45:35.120 Now they've obviously given a lot of thought.

00:45:37.880 They're moving at warp speed.

00:45:39.860 What's interesting is every time Trump makes an announcement, the left melts down and then he makes another one and they melt down some more.

00:45:46.040 So it's like he just keeps upping the ante.

00:45:48.180 Tulsi Gabbard, can't think of anyone better for director of national intelligence.

00:45:52.380 I've met her, just obviously smart, but she's the nicest person you ever want to meet.

00:45:57.380 Really, really great conversation with her.

00:46:00.660 I looked at a military record.

00:46:02.240 She's a lieutenant colonel, but she specializes with the Army.

00:46:04.520 She specializes in PSYOP, psychological operations.

00:46:07.840 I can't think of any better training for an intelligence director than someone who's good at psychological operations.

00:46:13.320 That's, you know, about half of what they do.

00:46:15.160 So extremely well qualified.

00:46:17.820 Matt Gaetz got, you know, very brainy, got the right amount of aggressiveness.

00:46:21.360 You need that.

00:46:22.360 And the Department of Justice has been so, you know, weaponized and politicized that, you know, you just need a clean house there.

00:46:28.640 Just kind of keep firing people to you to get to some strata that actually works.

00:46:33.180 Steve, I've been mainly focused on the one big announcement that they haven't made, which is the Treasury secretary.

00:46:38.880 I don't want to get, you know, I'm not in the transition deal.

00:46:41.240 I don't want to get involved in all the names there.

00:46:43.120 But I think it's interesting to talk about what the Treasury secretary actually does if you're going to try to pick the right name for it.

00:46:50.240 So I'll talk about budget deficits and all that.

00:46:52.500 The Treasury finances the budget deficit, but they're not really they don't really determine it.

00:46:56.240 That's the OMB and the White House and the Congress.

00:46:58.620 That's actually less important.

00:46:59.720 They run the bond market, of course, U.S. Treasury securities market.

00:47:03.420 But that's actually easy.

00:47:04.520 You just call up the primary dealers, you know, the big banks.

00:47:07.060 So what do the customers want?

00:47:08.140 You give it to them.

00:47:08.800 You don't try to sell them, you know, hoodies.

00:47:11.000 If they want sneakers, give them sneakers.

00:47:12.560 In this case, they want Treasury bills.

00:47:14.300 So give them Treasury bills.

00:47:15.320 That's very, I'm not being glib, but it's very important in terms of liquidity and not having a euro dollar money market meltdown.

00:47:22.720 The key job is to protect the U.S. dollar.

00:47:25.300 Now, again, this is not understood.

00:47:26.780 Everyone thinks the Fed handles the dollar.

00:47:28.660 The chairman of the Fed will be the first one to tell you, we don't do that.

00:47:31.740 That's the Treasury's job.

00:47:33.060 You look at some of the great Treasury secretaries, Henry Morgenthau, James Baker, Bob Rubin.

00:47:37.800 They always put the dollar first.

00:47:39.920 Now, the dollar is pretty strong against the currency, so Trump will be off to a good start.

00:47:43.600 But that's the main job.

00:47:44.700 But inside the Treasury, they have the Office of Intelligence Analysis.

00:47:48.980 That's an in-house CIA.

00:47:50.260 They have an intelligence unit in the Treasury.

00:47:52.840 It's one of the intelligent community members, which means that that's going to sync up with Tulsi Gabbard.

00:47:57.980 That's the DNI's job, to synchronize all that.

00:48:01.920 So you want somebody with some intelligence chops.

00:48:04.400 They run CFIUS.

00:48:05.460 You say CFIUS is like, you know, does it itch or burn?

00:48:08.300 That's the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States.

00:48:11.100 Now, Trump's going to put up tariffs.

00:48:12.860 We already know that.

00:48:13.760 That's kind of the light hazard.

00:48:14.820 Well, if you put up tariffs, what Trump's always saying is you can sell to Americans, but you've got to make it in the United States.

00:48:23.560 That means they need to jump the tariff wall.

00:48:26.020 And one way to do that is to buy U.S. companies.

00:48:28.380 Well, CFIUS is the gatekeeper on whether a foreign country buying a U.S. company is a threat or not.

00:48:36.120 And that's interagency, but that's coordinated with the Treasury.

00:48:40.280 So Treasury Secretary has to run CFIUS.

00:48:42.860 And, again, that's an important gatekeeper from a national security perspective on foreign investment.

00:48:48.340 Office of Foreign Asset Control.

00:48:49.920 We always hear about sanctions.

00:48:51.660 That's where they run it.

00:48:52.600 They run it out of the U.S. Treasury.

00:48:53.800 Financial warfare is conducted by the U.S. Treasury.

00:48:56.060 And, again, this is what I teach at the U.S. Army War College.

00:48:58.320 And just very quickly, the Iranian sanctions, Obama ran Iranian sanctions.

00:49:02.860 They worked very well, got the Iranians to the table on the nuclear deal.

00:49:07.080 He did a lousy deal, but he got them to the table.

00:49:09.540 Trump ran what they call maximum pressure, maximum pressure against Iran.

00:49:13.500 Guess what?

00:49:14.260 It was very little terrorism because Iran didn't have any money.

00:49:17.180 So that worked.

00:49:18.480 Meanwhile, Biden comes along and they run sanctions against Russia.

00:49:22.220 And they are a complete failure.

00:49:23.940 Wally Adyam, Janet Yellen, Bungalovic.

00:49:25.700 So here's the question.

00:49:26.400 Why did sanctions work against Iran, but they failed completely against Russia?

00:49:31.920 There's a three-part answer to that.

00:49:33.480 But, you know, again, this is what I teach.

00:49:35.920 It's kind of complicated.

00:49:37.160 But the point is you have to understand that difference and understand why one works and

00:49:41.820 why he doesn't.

00:49:42.560 So you're going to want someone who can do that.

00:49:45.060 So kind of another financial crimes enforcement network, which is supposed to be for smugglers

00:49:49.660 and money launders and so forth, has been weaponized, gave Hunter Biden a free pass.

00:49:55.180 So you have to clean that up.

00:49:57.740 So I look at the names.

00:49:59.280 Lutnik's probably, Howard Lutnik's probably best qualified to run the bond market, but

00:50:03.300 it's the easiest job.

00:50:05.200 Scott Besant is probably, he probably has the intelligence jobs, partly because he, you

00:50:10.640 know, he worked with Soros and ran a lot of money for Soros.

00:50:12.840 That's like a private intelligence network.

00:50:14.960 Lighthizer is the best all-rounder.

00:50:16.620 By the way, getting back to Besant, he's come up with a three-hour plan, 3% real growth,

00:50:21.780 3% deficit relative to GDP, and 3 million barrels of oil additional production.

00:50:28.300 That's a brilliant plan.

00:50:29.380 That tells me right there that he understands the problem.

00:50:31.500 People say you have to pay off the national debt.

00:50:33.720 You don't have to pay off the national debt.

00:50:35.160 You just have to roll it over.

00:50:36.520 But how do you do that sustainably?

00:50:38.000 The answer is grow the economy faster than the debt.

00:50:41.220 So he gets it, but you don't have to be national economic.

00:50:44.180 Jim, we got to bounce.

00:50:48.460 By the way, I think he's in the mix if he doesn't get Treasury for National Economic

00:50:52.800 Council.

00:50:54.180 Real quick, I've got about a minute.

00:50:55.720 Where do people go to get the newsletters?

00:50:57.240 Where do they get all your books?

00:50:58.380 Because now more than ever, in the firestorm of capital markets and geopolitics, that intersection

00:51:03.340 is where Jim Rickards lives.

00:51:05.260 Where do they go, sir?

00:51:07.220 Thank you, Steve.

00:51:07.720 We have a landing page, it's meltdown24.com, meltdown24.com, meltdown24.com.

00:51:15.840 You can subscribe to our flagship newsletter, Strategic Intelligence, and if you do, you

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00:51:26.200 given the role of gold.

00:51:30.340 Jim, great to have you on here.

00:51:32.060 Looking forward to having you back here in a couple of days.

00:51:33.840 There's so many important announcements coming.

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00:51:41.580 Go check it out.

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00:51:46.240 Charlie Kirk is next.

00:51:47.560 Poso's after that.

00:51:49.120 So you've got two hours of Kirk, you've got an hour of Poso.

00:51:51.340 We're back here at 5 to 7 live.

00:51:54.620 Hopefully, we'll have an update on FBI, Treasury, all of it, OMB.

00:51:58.820 There is so much going on in the transition.

00:52:00.960 Also, the fight for confirmations.

00:52:02.640 And Jeff Clark, I think, a little more of a drill down.

00:52:05.860 President Trump can force the action here.

00:52:07.820 He has sent a shot across the bow of John Thune.

00:52:10.160 It says, yo, dude, Matt Gaetz is my attorney general.

00:52:14.460 Let's get on with it.

00:52:16.120 So that's what we say.

00:52:17.120 The first among equals in this, Matt Gaetz.

00:52:19.300 Of course, defense, DHS, HHS.

00:52:23.120 All of it.

00:52:23.920 All of it.

00:52:24.520 All of it.

00:52:25.340 Huge.

00:52:26.740 Charlie Kirk next.

00:52:27.720 We'll see you back here at 5 p.m.

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Bannon's War Room - November 18, 2024

Episode 4064： The Elite Should Be Panicked

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