Episode 4072： Building True Executive Power In The US
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Summary
Stephen K. Kamb and John Brennan join host Stephen K.K. to discuss the latest in the Trump administration, including the confirmation process for the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) Director, Russell Vought, who is a key author of Project 2025 and a self-proclaimed Christian nationalist who is pushing a post-constitutional vision for the second Trump administration.
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It's the sort of harebrained comedic look of it all that they want you to focus on, right?
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And while you are distracted by the spectacle, they want you to lose sight of the fact that
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all of these people will have tremendous power with no actual qualitative experience, which
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could lead to massive corruption and the destruction of everything we've known for decades about
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And the only people standing in the way are career civil servants who have no interest
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in facilitating this unbridled, scorched earth vengeance led by incompetent people, which
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explains why, according to multiple sources who spoke with Politico and The Washington
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Post, Donald Trump is expected to announce that Russell Vought, a key author of Project
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2025, will once again lead the Office of Management and Budget, as he did in Trump's first
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Vought, who once said that he wants, quote, bureaucrats to be traumatically affected, is a self-proclaimed
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Christian nationalist who's pushing a post-constitutional vision for the second Trump administration, which
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includes this novel theory that Congress doesn't have complete control over spending and that
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a president can circumvent their power of the purse.
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Vought will now be able to enact key aspects of Project 2025, which includes decimating the
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federal government and bleeding it of any nonpartisan civil servants.
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Trump and his deputies will have nobody, nobody standing in their way.
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Vought joins folks like WrestleMania McMahon, TV doctor Mehmet Oz, real world Boston cast member and former
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Wisconsin congressman Sean Duffy, Fox regulars Pete Hegseth and Matthew Whitaker, and a real
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Mr. Brennan, on a question about process, including the background process, there's been multiple
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reporting that they signaled early on they are not going to allow the they're not going to have the FBI do
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They're going to either outsource, privatize that or even just sidestep it.
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They're not going to do background checks and they're just going to issue security clearance
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by executive order of the president to whoever he wants to issue to to someone who's not worked
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It's like, oh, maybe you guys are too uptight about this anyway.
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Well, it certainly is a very radical deviation from the way things have been done in the past
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under all administrations, Democratic and Republican.
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The only individuals who don't go through a background check, basically, are the president
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and the vice president when they are elected into office.
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But everybody else, all cabinet officials need to go through that background check, especially
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those in national security that are going to be given, provided this country's most sensitive,
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And so, therefore, the professionals in these organizations, in the intelligence community,
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in law enforcement, want to know that when they're sharing this information with these
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individuals, that they have already gone through that security clearance process.
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And the fact that the Trump administration is not adhering to that process, either for the
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FBI background checks or ethic pledges and other types of things, really, I think, has
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raised serious concerns in the minds of a lot of the professionals who are going to be put
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in the position of having to support and brief these individuals when they get, if they get
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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Here's the reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to
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And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Welcome, it is Thursday, 21 November, in the year of our Lord, 2024.
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So, here's, right there, John Brennan, no, we're not going to allow the deep state to
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determine who's in the Trump administration and who's not, okay?
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But either in the White House or one of the departments, cabinets, all of it.
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You're not running the deal, we're running the deal.
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And Brennan, you should stop going on, just a recommendation, stop going on MSNBC and start
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lawyering up, because you're in a short list of people that I'm sure are going to be investigated
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in this vast criminal conspiracy against President Trump and MAGA.
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So, you don't need to worry about our clearances, you don't need to worry about FBI checks, that's
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You should worry, because on the afternoon, the 20th of January, 2025, we're going to
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strip you of your security clearance and take your pension away.
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So, I would be talking to your financial advisor.
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Then you're going to spend millions and millions and millions of dollars and years and years
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and years trying to defend yourself against deep investigations, just like you did to us.
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Now, the difference between the good guys in the MAGA movement and around President Trump
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and you guys, you're like rats leaving the ship.
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All I see is the Hollywood elite, what, DeGeneres yesterday going to the Cotswold in England, you
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McCabe sitting there whining, Weissman whining.
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Not defending, not standing up and defending your position.
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So, no, Brennan, we're not going to play your game.
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We're not going to let the deep state, the deep state, the infiltration and the transition
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team needs to wake up and get very focused on either CIA or FBI infiltration down there.
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Until they're properly, they're properly vetted.
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Your cronies are not going to vet the Trump team.
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In fact, all of the people associated with the administration of deep state have to be
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President Trump took a bullet to the head and then won a landslide victory four months later.
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He gets to choose who's in his government or not.
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And if you're thinking, oh, well, the professionals, well, if the professionals don't like it, they
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They can leave and we're going to make them leave.
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You're either with the program or you're not with the program.
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There's no there's no concept of this concept in the Constitution of checks and balances.
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There's no checks and balances inside the executive branch.
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Checks and balances are from the other two branches of government, the judiciary and the
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Also believes in things like recess appointments.
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You can do that and still believe in checks and balances.
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This is this is the perverted thinking of the administrative and deep state that they run the deal.
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President Trump, as I told The New York Times, is a blunt force instrument and he's delivered
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blunt force trauma onto the administrative state.
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MSNBC, by the way, I don't know if you guys fully realize it, but Bill O'Reilly summed it
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up last night, I think, on Cuomo's show over NewsNation.
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I'll try to play that clip a little later in the show.
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But MSNBC that we monitor 24-7, I think, has just been dumped.
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I think NBC News in the hierarchy of the Roberts family said, hey, this hate-filled network is so
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deranged, so deranged that we got to cut it loose.
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And they're putting it in with other cable properties because cable is dying.
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They're putting it in with other dying cable properties and spinning it off to shareholders.
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But essentially, they're cutting it off from any capital, so it will implode.
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And you see, Morning Joe, we're going to get into all this.
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But I want to start first because inside baseball, the finance aspect of this is now being worked
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And obviously, we have thought from the beginning that a safe pair of hands is Scott Besson,
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I don't know how you pick a private equity guy, given all the damage private equity has
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done to workers in this country, how someone at Apollo is even on the short list.
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Some people may even say he's brilliant, right?
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Besson clearly has been with President Trump for a while.
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So I think President Trump is chewing this over, right?
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Know that all the interviews took place yesterday.
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And President Trump is a finance guy and understands that.
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So we have to just stand by and see what's going to happen.
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But clearly, I think that particularly what I think attracted this audience to Besson,
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and look, no candidate's perfect, but that he came up with this concept, this construct
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And somebody's got to be able to execute that, OK?
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Because this is our last shot to do it, given the firestorm we've got on this debt.
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And I think you're seeing kind of a global margin call right now.
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As importantly is that, you know, you've got to figure out how to finance this.
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But as importantly is, you know, what exactly are we doing?
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If you go after the administrative state by billet and program,
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you also at the same time are thinking about cutting costs.
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The key there is office of management and budget.
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Not totally confirmed that Russ Vogt over at CRA,
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who's been a contributor to this show for years and years and years,
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and a guy that I revere because he's such a just down-the-middle boom.
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And I think with Elon and Vivek and now MTG has been announced on a subcommittee to help the Doge guys.
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This is all going to merge into the appropriations process.
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We're going to have a lot of very smart people coming from different perspectives with a guy like Russ Vogt
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that can work with both the Hill and President Trump over in the Oval Office to kind of get your hands around federal spending.
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Now, people are coming up with new ideas and concepts all the time.
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One of the most striking and brilliant, because, you know, you've had Jeff Clark working on this thing about the recess appointments,
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which may be a tool that we need in the toolbox.
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Another tool that's just – it's kind of breathtaking of its possibilities if you have very smart, very tough spines of steel people that are prepared to execute on it.
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Mark, you have been kind of one of the theoreticians of this.
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I want to walk through – I've got about two minutes here, and I'm going to hold you through the break.
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Why is – in nomenclature – we're always trying to get the Warren Posse, our cadre, ahead of the curve here.
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Why is impoundment – what is it, and why is it going to be so important in President Trump's program going forward
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to really get control of this out-of-control federal government, sir?
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Impoundment is the president's authority to not spend funds that Congress appropriated.
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In our founding and going back, you know, to – in England and, you know, coming over to the United States,
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it was always appropriations were a ceiling, not a floor.
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And what happened in the post-Watergate, Watergate period is that Congress turned it upside down
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You have to spend every nickel appropriated, right?
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This is how they take care of their special interests.
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But you have to spend every single nickel appropriated or, again, you're breaking the law.
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And so we've done a lot of work led by Russ over the past four years.
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And just to digress for one second, Russ' vote, if it is correct, would be spectacular as the new OMB director.
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That would be a superb, superb choice and happy if he gets it.
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Because impoundment and all of these tools that need to be done need somebody who's smart and tactical
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But it's really, and we did a lot of work on two 20-page papers looking at the history of impoundments,
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the constitutional basis for impoundments, and how every president up until Nixon
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impounded hundreds of millions, billions of dollars in funds, okay,
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because they didn't think it was the right thing to do on exercising their authority.
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And Congress agreed with them in most instances.
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There was battles back and forth, and that's the hurly-burly, as Justice Scalia has pointed out,
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between the two branches, but it's the president exercising agency as the chief executive officer.
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If Congress appropriates $100 million for a program to build a tank, say, and you can do it for $50 million or $75 million,
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Hang on for one second, because this is so important.
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And it gets back to so many different concepts of really the intellectual architecture of the second trunk 2.0.
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It's quite complicated, but the team is coming together, right?
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Scott Besson's plan for economic growth, kind of this growth strategy.
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I think the president spent a lot of time chewing on that.
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Clearly, if it's true about these announcements about Russ's vote, that goes back to President Trump's first term where, of all the stuff going on in the White House, the one thing that was locked down was President Trump's understanding of the math.
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I want to make sure the Warren Posse understands this because in the days and months and weeks ahead, when you see all the stuff flying around, Doge and you've got Vivek and Elon, you know, they're brewing out.
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They've got very serious players that are already bringing in underneath them because these are serious guys.
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And this government efficiency is really going to dovetail with appropriations and with OMB in a process.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene is going to chair up a subcommittee in the House.
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What it is, is to deconstruct the administrative state, right, to refurbish and to re-energize these departments of exactly what we need in a limited government.
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OK, this people have talked about limited government.
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And now we're going to get down and, folks, when you have a six and a half trillion dollar budget and this place is like Paris, you got the boutiques, you got the car, you know, the Lamborghini dealerships, the pain in cash, the seven, what, five of the seven richest counties in the country are around the imperial capital.
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There's a ton of money that flows through here, right?
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More money than flows through Wall Street right through here.
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And that's what Russ Vogt and Mark Paoletta are the tip of the tip of the spear.
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So this unitary executive theory, which kind of gets back to the to really the executive being both three things, the chief executive of the United States government, the commander in chief of the uniformed services and the chief magistrate, the chief law enforcement officer, ain't the attorney general.
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It's the it's the president of these United States.
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Now, you get down to I want to go back to the history.
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Nixon, this is one of the big fallouts of Watergate, one of the massive photos.
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This is one of the reasons that the federal government, even after the Great Society, exploded and even Reagan couldn't get his arms around it because what did they do?
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You know, the 1970s was just a horrible time for the presidency.
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Congress did this massive power grab with the Empowerment Control Act, with the Independent Council statute, with the War Powers Resolution, all things to cripple the presidency, cripple the president and having agency in order to carry out his duties, his responsibilities.
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And so, you know, it it is a perfect time for this president, for the president elect to come in and reassert those powers all across the board.
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It's returning the presidency to what it's been historically.
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And that's the part that we've done a lot of work on, you know, on empowerment.
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OK, you know, it all goes all the way back to Jefferson and probably to Washington.
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It just wasn't recorded in terms of impounding funds.
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And so there was a push and pull over over the years.
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But, you know, when I focused when we did this work and I refer the posse to the CRA website where there's two 20 page papers that lays all of this out.
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But, again, you had Roosevelt, FDR, during the Depression and coming into the war, refusing to spend money, citing economic emergency.
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He impounded hundreds of millions of dollars, as did I'm looking at some of the stuff we did.
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Truman, he impounded half the National Guard's appropriation.
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In 49, he impounded funds appropriated by Congress for two supercarriers.
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He deferred various domestic programs in order to focus on the Korean War efforts.
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At the height of the Watergate, for Nixon to save himself, he says, I'll give these guys this and maybe they'll back off.
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If it's actually been codified into law, what magic are you and Russ vote?
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Because, trust me, the left's going to come in on you guys hard.
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How are you going to do this now when it's actually in law, sir?
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Again, the law is so invasive of the president's authority to direct the executive branch and as he is with the commander in chief, chief executive, where he has a purview over all the laws and making sure that they are all being properly executed.
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Okay, so you're telling me we're going to force, since we control the House and the Senate, you guys may or do it, but the left is going to sit there and take us.
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They're going to go into a federal court, get a TRO and go, hey, I'd love it, but pay a letter, a vote, and Trump are breaking the law, and we want them to revert back to the law.
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Aren't you going to force a – I'm not saying this is a fight we want, but somewhere the Supreme Court of these United States is going to get involved here.
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Well, the mechanism they set up to enforce the Impalmment Control Act is for the Comptroller General to sue the president for not spending the funds.
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It is our very considered judgment that the Comptroller General is unconstitutional.
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He is a legislative officer that's appointed by the president, and he can sue the president.
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A person appointed by the president is not allowed to sue the president.
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And so we welcome a challenge from the Comptroller General because I do believe that the Supreme Court would strike down the Comptroller General as an officer.
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That's the way the Impalmment Control Act is set up.
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And we saw the partisanship of the Comptroller General when he issued that ridiculous opinion when we paused the money for 60 days so that the president could decide how best to spend the Ukraine funding back in 2019.
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That was the Comptroller General who made this outrageous decision that it was a violation of the Impalmment Control Act.
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And so that's what – and he made that decision because he said the Department of Defense had already certified that this money would be spent a certain way, completely writing out of the scene the president of the United States who is the chief executive commander-in-chief who gets to decide at the end of the day how best to spend that money.
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But in terms of trying to jam the president with how he makes his determinations in spending money.
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Because this is part of the deconstruction of the administrative state.
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Remember, the Supreme Court has our back here with Gorsuch and the guys on the Chevron deference, right?
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Now you've got – there's going to be all types of things in here that are unconstitutional.
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You're going to have to – this is part of it.
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In restructuring this – the government, you're going to have to go and take these things that have been unconstitutional out, and we're going to have a couple of three fights that maybe go all the way to the Supreme Court.
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And you'll see one of the co-authors of that paper, both papers actually, is Daniel Shapiro, who was a recent law clerk to Justice Thomas and is a superstar lawyer and spent time up there on the court.
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So – and you were talking about the unitary executive in the Department of Justice.
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There's a great article by Justice – one of Justice Thomas' former clerks, too, Sai Prakash, about how the president is – I think he titled his law review article the chief prosecutor of the United States.
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And showed how he directed – how early presidents like Washington, Adams, and Jefferson directed specific prosecutions of specific people and also told them to – told the lawyers, because it wasn't an Department of Justice at the time, but told the prosecutors, the federal prosecutors, to stop prosecutions when the president reconsidered those directives.
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He's the chief – he's the commander-in-chief.
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Thomas Jefferson – memory serves me correctly – Thomas Jefferson directed the entire prosecution for treason of Aaron Burr, who had been his – who had once upon a time been his vice president of the United States or had been his – was his vice president of the United States.
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I keep saying this is the Thomas court, but now you're seeing the philosophy of Justice Thomas, one of the greatest justices this country has ever had.
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You're now seeing it through the – yeah, through MAGA, through Trump.
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When they just talk about the courts, that's where the fight in the Senate is so important.
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But in the executive branch, in the legislative, there's so many former clerks of Justice Thomas, they're at the tip of the spear in the kind of reorganization of this government.
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Mark, I know you're pressed for time, but can you just hold through one break?
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I've got a couple minutes on the other side because I want to talk about these processes because they're sitting over there on MSNBC and the New York Times.
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This is a very well-organized, very methodical steamroller that's coming for the administrative state.
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And they're yammering and yelping and, you know, oh, this is all chaos.
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You're going to get rolled and you're going to get rolled hard.
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And that's because there's some very smart and very tough people from Silicon Valley all the way to Washington, D.C., and a couple of three down in Mar-a-Lago in West Palm Beach that are working on this right now.
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Posobics here because the Biden regime, I might add the illegitimate Biden regime, is right now, with no guidance from Congress, getting us into a shooting war over in the Eurasian landmass.
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Question about process, including the background process.
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There's been multiple reporting that they signaled early on they are not going to allow, they're not going to have the FBI do background checks.
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They're going to either outsource, privatize that, or even just sidestep it.
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And they're just going to issue security clearance by executive order of the president to whoever he wants to issue to.
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To someone who's not worked in the national security apparatus, it's like, oh, maybe you guys are too uptight about this anyway.
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Well, it certainly is a very radical deviation from the way things have been done in the past under all administrations, Democratic and Republican.
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The only individuals who don't go through a background check, basically, are the president and the vice president when they are elected into office.
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But everybody else, all cabinet officials, need to go through that background check, especially those in national security that are going to be given, provided, this country's most sensitive classified information, the secrets.
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And so, therefore, the professionals in these organizations, in the intelligence community, in law enforcement, want to know that when they're sharing this information with these individuals, that they have already gone through that security clearance process.
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And the fact that the Trump administration is not adhering to that process, either for the FBI background checks or ethic pledges and other types of things, really, I think, has raised serious concerns in the minds of a lot of the professionals who are going to be put in the position of having to support and brief these individuals when they get, if they get confirmed by the Senate.
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pay a letter and i'm glad i got poso coming on right here because he's an intel guy this is a
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perversion they're talking about a check and balance inside the executive the checks and
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balances correct me pay a letter and i'm not a lawyer are the judiciary and the legislative
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on the executive and the executive on those two right it's not there's no nothing in the
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constitution this be inconceivable you think washington who they had to kind of come and
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talk into running for president you think washington general washington would run for
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president become the president the founder of the nation if he had known that inside his own
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administration where he's chief executive officer you got you got these uh permanent bureaucrats and
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put a check on him have you lost your freaking mind this is the problem and brennan said the quiet
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part loud hey brennan we are vetting your guys we are vetting the fbi this is why cash patel needs to
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be head of the fbi you are being vetted and you're going to be bottom blown and by the way bro
00:32:44.760
you're going to be under serious criminal investigation so either leave the country
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to some place we don't have an extradition treaty or get ready to lawyer up and have all your left
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wing buddies okay all the billionaires you hang with because now you're not going to have a security
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clearance because you're not going to be able to feed them the secrets the secrets we ought to have a
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mass day one declassive when you sit in there this is how they keep control look i had a high
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secure i had above a uh an si i had a sci back in 1981 as a young naval officer as a special assistant
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the chief of naval operation i played this game for many many decades they control the information
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the one way i have to piss off the the briefer every morning came and gave me a brief i go why is
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this class navar and i would sit there why is this classified and they go they start they start they go
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they they they hemorrhage they control the information behind this bogus now there is some
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stuff i'm the first man there's some stuff that you know maybe you got to keep classified but it's not
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the millions and millions of classified documents i got that's a control game brennan you don't control
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the executive branch the constitution's got trump as the chief executive officer the commander-in-chief
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of the military and the chief magistrate and the chief law enforcement officer so suck on that
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i'm tired of you people i'm sick and tired of what you've perverted this country you've destroyed
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this country you've destroyed individuals in this country you are a pervert you are a pervert
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mark paoletta is is that a twisted version of the constitution the problem we got in no offense
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conservatives because he said bush administration did it this is the freaking problem the bushes you
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play patty cake with them and you played footsie with them and you just went along this is why trump
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it's washington lincoln and trump he's the armor piercing shell that's that's blown through that he is the
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blunt force instrument for the american people he is tribune of the people and he's left blunt force
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trauma on this perverted system mark paoletta yeah and going back to russ's uh comment i mean the trauma
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comment which is the the deep state does control the bureaucracy and i wrote about this and pointed out
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some examples where the president trump it's his agenda that's going to be implemented by every single
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person in that executive branch they work for him they have a duty a responsibility to to to help
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carry out his program do we want feedback and to make things better yeah but it's not to defeat the
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program it's to help the program right and once the decision is made and moving forward they are required
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and and we saw too many times right too many times uh so many times where career people stonewalled
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slow rolled objected to not refusing to work on on programs and when i say this or policies or projects
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you know president trump trump was the department of justice was investigating yale university for
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discrimination in their admissions practices this has been ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court
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and yet you had career people refusing to work on it like they are some noble people but fighting back
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against whatever the the you know the the the invaders i mean this this is what we're talking
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about they slow roll looking into the deaths of um of of elderly people in new york nursing homes under
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uh democratic uh governor cuomo they thought that was wrong they didn't like to do that because he
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was a democrat governor they actually went to the ig and started an investigation into this into this
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investigation which i think is still pending okay um so that's what the deep state does and yeah i
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don't want to yep as you said there are good people in there i've worked with them they did great work
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for president trump actually and russ when we worked there's a lot of there's a lot of good people
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there's a lot of good folks in there and they're going to stick around but but hey they're all going
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to get vetted you ain't vetting us and we're vetting you pursuing pursuing understand write that down
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we're vetting the fbi and the cia you're not going to vet anybody we don't care about your vetting
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you're corrupt we're going to vet you we'll take the handful of guys that are good and the rest get
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bottom blown pay letter i want to get you back on talking about process because we're running out of
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time but grace chung and mo are going to put out i want these papers read i also want the unitary
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executive so we got some homework assignments folks and we're going to quiz because i need the cadre i need
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the posse you're going to be in the ramparts you need to know this stuff this is inside baseball
00:37:24.480
these were the big fights by the way talk about inside baseball charlie gasparino who's
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okay this is charlie gasparino's big this is his big scoop charlie gasparino the guy at the post
00:37:39.180
and fox business breaking top hedge fund managers are growing wary about the debt situation 35
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trading accounting the the um counting they believe biden and joe biden and yellen manipulating
00:37:53.340
interest rates in the run-up to the november 5 by selling so much short-dated debt so as not to cause
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a spike in longer dated yields have you ever heard that before here in the war room a year ago when
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they started doing it we called it out then we said like argentina now gasparino and all the guys
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and fox and all the guys in new york post going to run around with their hair on fire yo bro they've
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been doing this for a while pay attention take notes get your number two principal out pay a letter
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you're a rock star i need everybody go to cra but more important i think we just got to make it put
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up on social media grace mo jane let's blow this out homework assignments and this sounds like great
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doesn't it unitary executive theory uh you've got the impoundment uh clause uh everything we're going
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to uh be doing here pay a letter where they get you on social media sure thanks steve i'm at mark
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payoletta and um and also my website is mark payoletta.com i got all my op-eds papers that sort
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of stuff that uh um that i've written and done so um you're right the posse uh an amazing force
00:38:58.840
get educated on this stuff there's two 20 page papers there's a there's a an op-ed i wrote on the
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president asserting his uh operational control of the department of justice as the founders envisioned
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and and structured our constitution so it's a it's a great moment it's an inflection point i 100
00:39:14.820
agree and it you know come january 20th president hits the ground running we change this country
00:39:20.180
change it uh last question is going to be anybody at cra left after the administration's uh staffed up
00:39:28.260
just curious minds want to know we love you guys but i i'm i'm afraid all of i'm not going to have
00:39:34.420
any contributors everybody's gone my production they're all gone gone anyway we love you payoletta
00:39:39.560
what's your personal what's again what's your personal so where's your social media sure at
00:39:44.260
mark payoletta on x uh it's where i do all my posting and then mark payoletta.com is what my
00:39:50.200
website uh there's an op-ed uh page on there and it's got about 50 op-eds uh defending president
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taken on the left defending the supreme court and as you mentioned our greatest justice in our
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history justice clarence thomas all the attacks on them that's another piece of this too right
00:40:05.320
steve which is the left wanted to pack the court so that they can control the opinions coming out
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and thank god for the supreme court and what president trump did because you know in this in
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the past four years there were key decisions like the presidential immunity decision that protected
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thank god for the moral courage of uh justice clarence thomas you're seeing this is just not
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the thomas court the entire executive branch in the legislature in the legislative branch are full of
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acolytes of one of the greatest americans in the history of this republic so mark thank you so much
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appreciate you being on here thanks steve clarence thomas look at his courage and look at trump's
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courage because of the pun courage that all the other virtues rest jack posobik before i get into
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the war in the ukraine and this jam up brennan right there you see the control they want to have
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they think inside the executive branch they have good day they you ain't got control anymore
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the controls and how you're going to do it you come out of the intel committee the naval intel
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community but all you guys kind of think alike how are we going to break this how are we actually
00:41:14.640
going to break them posobik well steve it's very simple and it's got to be top down uh the very
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first thing you've got to do and when tilcy gabbard is confirmed as our dni then she's got to bring the
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heads of all 18 over there and say look if you're not on board you're out honestly no i'm going to go
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on further she's got to get rid of all of them she's got to get rid of all of them day one clean house
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full clean house and then this is what you said steve instead of them vetting us we are going to
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hold hearings on who should be the next director of these various agencies we're going to go through
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every single one of them and as they sit there we're going to say what have you done in your job
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what have you done in terms of the issues look at look at what they're doing with with ukraine
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russia right now and we'll get into more uh after the break but it's very clear you've got a
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mentality that america should be the global empire that america should be the world police that
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america should be dominant across eurasia that america should be dominant across every single
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sphere of the world and it's not our fight in so many of these cases because what do we do we go to
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the new york times we find out that cia and the vindman brothers and all those guys hanging out over
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there that they were planning and training these operations and by the way we're going to pull in a lot
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of these people too because i got some questions about what ryan wesley routh the second trump
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assassin who goes on trial at eileen cannon's courthouse here in a couple weeks i want to know
00:42:46.200
what's in his cia file that was handed over to dhs when they pulled him into secondary screening in
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hololulu before he went to shoot president trump or try to at least down outside the west palm beach
00:42:59.300
golf course they are shredding files right now over at cia and that's what needs we need to get
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to the bottom of immediately okay hang on you're gonna stick with me here uh post seven i appreciate
00:43:12.180
i know you're incredibly busy but this is quite important um i think it ray and mayorkas just
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canceled going to the hill maybe to the senate maybe that's because of the judges i'm gonna get it all
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worked out we're gonna be back in a moment posovics gonna be with us they are and this is because the
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hill didn't force the war powers act and didn't make biden come years ago we're a thousand days
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into this war we got a million dead ukrainians they only 38 of them support this war now and
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fbi director christopher ray and the homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas are apparently refusing to
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appear before a senate committee this morning that hearing had been planned for months but this is an
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11th hour back out in a statement the chair of the committee democrat gary peters saying quote for the
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first time in more than 15 years the homeland security secretary and the fbi director have refused
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to appear before the committee their choice to not provide public testimony about their department's
00:45:49.940
efforts to address wide-ranging national security threats robs the american people of critical
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information and the opportunity for public accountability let's get over to nbc's ken delaney
00:46:01.760
and for more on what's going on here so ken senator peters says this is a quote shocking departure from
00:46:07.900
tradition is it it is fairly shocking on in part because this hearing had been planned for weeks and it was
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only on monday that these two top officials decided that they weren't going to testify in public and they
00:46:20.500
did so both in the house version of this hearing and the senate version and it's pretty clear what's
00:46:25.060
going on here uh these these two men are are not expected to continue for very much longer in their
00:46:30.200
jobs and these congressional hearings are very unpleasant for them they get grilled by members
00:46:34.640
of both parties on all sorts of issues they even get death threats in some cases after these hearings
00:46:40.100
and so they are choosing not to appear in public now the fbi is saying in a statement to us that they
00:46:46.000
have provided lots of information in public settings over the last year about all kinds of threats and
00:46:50.700
that's true uh but you know this was a chance uh for the taxpayers to hear from these people who work
00:46:56.900
for them about significant threats uh facing the nation and they're not going to get that chance
00:47:08.780
i think this just might have something to do with their criminality they don't want any more on the
00:47:18.280
record they can't take any more on the record because the house particularly we were waiting for
00:47:21.620
jack basobiec this is pretty breathtaking i keep saying this is why we had you on the day for the
00:47:27.300
you got the war in ukraine they're ramping up the international criminal court with a nudge from the
00:47:31.980
united states has just indicted bb and i think his defense minister you got uh you got hundreds of
00:47:39.760
thousands going to come across the border charlie gasper just figured out you got yelling over there
00:47:44.880
selling more short-term uh 90-day notes like argentina they're they're the entire process is to set up and
00:47:55.020
destroy trump in the indirect that's what i'm saying don't go to folks right now is the fight
00:48:00.880
right now is the fight if you take a vacation we look the other way and those senators get your
00:48:05.900
freaking asses back up to dc braun and cruz where in the hell are you we're gonna stop more judges
00:48:11.740
last night this is a disgrace you're paid to get here and represent the people braun i don't care if
00:48:19.200
you're the governor of indiana indiana can wait not going anywhere football team's on fire you can get
00:48:25.280
your ass back here and stop some of these radical bottom of the barrel judges
00:48:28.780
pozo this is about as up in your grill as you could possibly get coming from a guy that spent
00:48:36.960
four months in danbury kind of directionally what they just did sir well steve it's it's very obvious
00:48:44.820
what's going on and yes of course uh you were as well as peter navarro sent away for four months
00:48:52.140
each for refusing to testify now i don't believe that they were subpoenaed in this instance by the
00:48:57.980
united states senate you were subpoenaed of course by the january 6 select committee which was an
00:49:04.480
illegitimate committee as constituted and speaker johnson i'll give a little credit on that one
00:49:09.800
speaker johnson even submitted to the justice department and to the courts that it was illegally
00:49:16.300
constituted and so the idea that they would refuse an acting standing committee of the united states
00:49:24.660
senate which is the first time this has ever happened united states senate homeland security team
00:49:28.680
it shows me exactly what's going on here steve we can see it on every front you see it in ukraine
00:49:34.080
and russia you see it in israel gaza and the icc you see it down on the border where they're planning
00:49:39.320
this mass it's the million man march across the border right now is what they're doing and oscar
00:49:43.440
blue ramirez has the entire thing they are attempting to shock the system they are pushing
00:49:49.240
everything into the red they're trying to redline the entire system before trump gets in there and
00:49:55.200
what they're going to do is when he gets in and when everything is falling apart they're going to say oh
00:49:59.940
look look at the chaos look at the drama look at eric trump and elon and all in rfk and tulsi see we
00:50:06.760
told you these repeat heggseth bad picks cash patel you know cash only we love only cash they're going to
00:50:11.620
say oh it was all bad picks and trump's gay don't know anything they're doing and scott bessett and
00:50:15.780
no they can't figure it out because they're trying to redline the system they're setting fire to the
00:50:21.240
house before they leave it and we can see the american people can see what's going on and president
00:50:26.780
trump's got to be very smart and fortunately he is the man for the job in terms of all of this and i
00:50:32.640
certainly i haven't don't have any inside information on this but i certainly hope that he's picking up the
00:50:36.600
phone to these various entities around the world and saying look look we understand what they're doing
00:50:42.440
we understand what's going on we are on top of this but we need our landing teams in there immediately
00:50:49.000
not january 20th you need them there right now because we can all see what's going on yeah
00:50:55.640
jack um give me i know you get a bounce but give me a minute on this i get two minutes here but 90
00:51:03.060
seconds give it to me on the on the on what's happened in ukraine this thing's escalating and
00:51:07.660
folks it's going to spin out of control the fog of war right now what is your big right not only
00:51:13.220
well right now we're also we're hearing what they're attempting to do what what the u.s is doing and
00:51:18.900
the u.s's little puppet there kirstomer over in the uk are trying to do when they jerk him on his leash
00:51:24.280
are to get to fire these long-range missiles into russia with the attempt to get russia to respond with a
00:51:30.040
massive provocation thereby in denying president trump the capacity and the parameters for a peace
00:51:36.760
deal to take place so what russia has done at this point they haven't responded with uh lighting up
00:51:42.980
kiev there certainly are warnings of this but there was a massive strike last night in the city of
00:51:48.740
denepro now the ukrainians are saying that this was intercontinental ballistic missiles and if this
00:51:54.020
was an intercontinental ballistic missile steve this would be the this is very serious and the war
00:51:58.200
and posse has to take this seriously and this is a serious show and serious audience that would be
00:52:02.140
the first time an intercontinental ballistic missile icbm was ever used in combat however the
00:52:08.240
russians are claiming it was not intercontinental they are claiming it was medium range so clearly
00:52:13.440
a threat and that's what the merv the multiple re-entry vehicles all the rest of it independently
00:52:17.960
targetable so look they are ratcheting things up we need president trump there immediately i would
00:52:23.260
love to see a special envoy that's put over for the ukraine war you don't need an ambassador you
00:52:28.500
don't need a secretary you need someone who's living and breathing this 24 7 that's trump's man
00:52:33.360
and his physical presence there will actually serve to calm things down
00:52:38.200
so what is your social media i want everybody on your social media today because you're putting
00:52:43.560
we're up on attack so we can of course we'll be back here at human events daily later 2 p.m eastern
00:52:47.700
okay brother love you keep uh keep grinding something tells me
00:52:57.340
posse may be a top draft pick into the white house maybe national security over at the pentagon
00:53:03.020
we need young men and women that are clear-minded and patriots in this time of war
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