Episode 4074： Blood In The Water; We Are Linked From Patriots
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Matt Gaetz withdraws his name from consideration to become Donald Trump's next attorney general. What could have been one of the first political flashpoints of the new Trump era is over, and it ended not with a bang, but a whimper.
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with that stunning announcement less than an hour ago that Matt Gaetz is withdrawing his name from
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consideration to serve as Donald Trump's attorney general. In a tweet announcing the decision,
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Gaetz said his confirmation was becoming a distraction to the incoming administration,
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writing, quote, there is no time to waste on a needlessly protracted Washington scuffle.
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Trump's DOJ must be in place and ready on day one. Fast. It could have been one of the first
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political flashpoints of the new Trump era is over. And it ended not with a bang, but a bit of
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a whimper. Matt Gaetz today withdrawing his nomination for attorney general in a post saying
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this, quote, there is no time to waste on the needlessly protracted Washington scuffle.
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His withdrawal comes after a day spent on Capitol Hill talking to Republican senators alongside J.D.
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Vance and amid a steady drip, drip, drip of seedy revelations out of the investigations into Matt
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Gaetz that would ultimately turn into a flood. To me, at least, that Matt Gaetz is acting in
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self-interest. I think the particulars of this ethics investigation would have come out and he
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would have had to deal with them. He would have had and the administration, the incoming
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administration would have had to deal with him. So I think it's a self-interested move. And I don't
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want us to get too far over our skis with regards to Republican senators here. I think Matt Gaetz is an easy
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case for them to to to exercise, advise and consent in this regard. But I still think Donald Trump will
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be consistent in his effort to, in some ways, reel the DOJ in. He's worried about its independence.
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Donald Trump is in so many ways with these appointments trying to consolidate his view
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of executive power. And so just as Ken noted, we need to be concerned about who's going to who he's
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going to nominate in place of Gaetz. So I think two things. One, Gaetz is acting in self-interest.
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Two, the Senate, let's not get over our skis in terms of them being a check and balance on Donald
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Trump. And three, let's just realize we're in the chaos again. And here it is. It's just beginning.
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So what do you see coming, Eddie? What are you going to be watching for?
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So my whole idea, I think there are two things that are running parallel that are about to converge.
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One is that Donald Trump has an expansive sense of executive power. We've been worried and concerned
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about the imperial presidency up until this point. We're going to see an imperial presidency on
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steroids. And so there's a reason why he wants to have a certain kind of appointment in DOJ.
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There's a reason for Gilbert Gabbard and DNI. There's a reason for the appointment at DOD. I think
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we need to understand that for what it is. And then I also think there's also this effort to
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gum up government, not so much to apply, you know, to appoint people who are competent,
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who demonstrate skill and experience, but folk who are committed to really deconstructing
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the administrative state. And so part of what we need to keep track of is how he's going to try to
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consolidate imperial executive power and to how he's going to try to gum up government by way of
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appointing people who really have no interest in governance.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval
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on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people had
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a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world
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to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that
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go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a
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conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,
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this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
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It's Thursday, correct? 21 November, year of the Lord, 2024. Welcome to the late afternoon,
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early evening show of the world. In fact, this is the type of day that the afternoon, evening show
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is made for when something explosive happens through the day that informs everything we're
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working on. Matt Gaetz has withdrawn his nomination. And look, let's be brutally frank. You can't take
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this any other way than a Mitch McConnell win. I mean, they're laughing up there in the Senate.
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They just are. They also smell, they taste blood in the water. Everybody had to hang together on this
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and kind of force it across the goal line. If you're going to do something like this, it's high
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risk, but it's super high reward. Matt Gaetz was the warrior's warrior. Always going to be a risky
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choice, but just over a week into it, punches out, I'm sure for good reasons. I think one thing,
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and I want to get back to Professor Eddie Glaude from Princeton, who I think very succinctly
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walk through what's going on here. But before I do, I want to make sure the audience is totally
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informed. Do we have off of my getter feed, or if Grace has put it up on Twitter yet,
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if you can pull this story of yesterday and just put it up on the screen, or from this morning.
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This is when they went around yesterday, and this was Senator J.D. Vance, the vice president
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elect of the United States of America, took Matt Gaetz around. They had to make deals in the room,
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and yesterday was not particularly successful. The rationale of Gaetz is that, hey, at the end of
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the day yesterday, I had four hard no's. I had Murkowski, I had Collins, I had McConnell, and added the
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guy, Curtis. This is the worst than Romney clone out of Utah. Folks in Utah, understand you got a
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problem out there. You got a problem out there. So they had four dug in no's. But my point is, hey,
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in the first couple of days, you're taking incoming because there's no comms plan. There's no surrogates
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out there. You're just getting brutalized every day. That's not the worst thing in the world.
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Gaetz said there's another four that, I guess after yesterday, told him essentially we're quasi-hard no's.
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That's eight. You got the president. We haven't put forth an effort here. There really hasn't been
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any communications planned. There's been no surrogates out there. I'm not even sure he had
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a Sherpa assigned, some senator like a Norm Coleman or someone to provide him air cover. Not even sure
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that was installed. This is the very early stages. That's a pretty quick withdrawal. But I want to bring
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your attention to, at least according to the reporting of Politico and other people in the room,
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what Gaetz was forced to trade off. And I think that is MSNBC, Fauci and Cheney, among others.
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There would be no investigation of in the criminal, the vast criminal conspiracy of MSNBC.
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This is your senators putting pressure, putting pressure on Gaetz in the room. No investigations
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into Fauci. No investigations in the Cheney. Think about this for a second. All the murder and mayhem
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caused by Fauci, all the deaths, all the, all the carnage, everything that happened during the COVID
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years. They, and I have not verified this. I'm going off of this. This is Mediite summary.
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I think it's Politico's reporting, but other people's reporting that these meetings,
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they even started like trading chits that if they were prepared to not sponsor Gaetz, but according to
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them, hold their nose and vote for him and not come as a hard note right now, what you had to,
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what you had to give up. And that's just from repeat, no investigation into Dr. Fauci,
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no investigation into Weissman and this crowd from everywhere going all the way back to the
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original Russia hoax with, with a shifty shift and Rachel Madd on that crowd and no, uh, no
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investigation of Cheney and her relation to the J6 committee, what she did on the J6 committee.
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That's, that's for starters. That's his first day up there. This is the easy day. We're not into the
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hard days. The hard days would be in late December when you're grinding through. There was some truly
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hard nose and Hey Matt, you've had a month and a half and Trump's had a month and a half to grind
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this through. And we're still a hard no or we're on the border. You got to give me something.
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You got to give me something. You got to give me a U S attorney. I need a U S attorney out in my,
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cause it's all horse trading. You need got to give me a U S attorney out in, uh, you know,
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out in my home state. Or, uh, I need somebody at me. I need a couple of sub cabinet positions over
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at USDA. I need this. This is the horse train that goes on. They're horse trading out on the first day.
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No investigation of Dr. Fauci, no investigation of MSNBC, no investigation of Cheney.
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Um, this is the, the Senate, the Senate is the human resources department of the United States
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government. This is the check and balance of the brilliance of our founders. And it was quite
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brilliant, but they're the human, their primary function is human resources department or treaties.
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And as you know, the United States were not into treaties, you know, this is why climate and the,
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and people nowadays have gone out of their way to make sure they're not treaties because it can't
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get two thirds of the Senate. Essentially can't get tough to get over 50%, 50 and a couple of votes.
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Gates is gone. Gates is gone. And I think we have to, um, be brutally Frank. I'm not here to kid.
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Look, the war room posse and the cadres and all that, you guys are going to get to the ramparts
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and we're going to win just like we won last time. But Hey, you're going to hit speed bumps.
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And here was a victory of this is Mitch McConnell and Trump took a bullet to the head, won a landslide.
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They don't hold the house and they certainly don't take the Senate. It's all Trump.
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And already they're reasserting themselves. They're reasserting non-MAGA. They're asserting
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that not to Trump and the president, please, Mr. President, understand the people around you
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that tell you, this is okay. This is not okay. You're not going to get anything done. Nothing. Zero.
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Unless we fought just like in football, unless we force your will upon it and we can,
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it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. It's just not going to happen because
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the forces of resistance and they're vast on the radical democratic side, Ray and Mayorkas
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refuse to testify in front of the democratic Senate because they don't want to come back
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and have to do in front of the house, refuse to testify. There's people pouring across the
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border. They're playing games with the balance sheet of the fed and the balance sheet of the
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United States. You know about how they're financing the debt.
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You got this war metastasizing. Poso's coming on at six o'clock. This war in Ukraine
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couldn't be more serious. Go to Drudge. And I realize Drudge is not the Drudge of all,
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but look at the Mac Daddy on Drudge. Look at the Mac Daddy on Drudge. This thing's as serious
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as it could possibly get. They're Trump proofing this government. Are the Republicans doing as
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good a job as possible and stopping the judge? No. Braun and Cruz aren't even around.
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I don't know what Cruz is doing. He's down there hanging out with Elon. We don't need you hanging
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out with Elon, Senator. You're the best of the best when it comes to the Constitution. You're the
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best of the best on judiciary. You got to be the best of the best in standing in the breach and
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stopping these judges. This is full game on now. And I hope people, I've been sitting here, I feel
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like kind of the voice in the wilderness. Everybody's wandering around. They want to go to parties and
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they're all doing this. And look, we had the parties last night, but we went right to work
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after that, gave a speech and came back here at 10 o'clock at night, 9 o'clock at night. We're
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grinding at the 3 in the morning. I'm not saying nothing special. This is other people doing it
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too. But this is not a time for celebration. This is a time for grinding work or in this
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interregnum before Trump even gets to January 20th, they're going to have it locked down and we're
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going to be nowhere. This is all about staying on offense. And we hit right perfectly. The first
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couple of days, perfect. You sucked them in with the Rubio in the Walls announcement.
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Maybe even a little Radcliffe. And they're sitting there on the sign shows. He's going to be so normal.
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It's going to be so great. It's going to be so, he's getting Republicans. He got, you know,
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Nikki Haley's bounced around. Mike Pompeo's bounced around. All going to be fine. This all going to be
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great. And then kaboom, kaboom, you boom, the five horsemen of the deep state apocalypse. So,
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hey, guess what? On Wednesday, on Thursday afternoon of the 21st of November, 21 November,
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the year of our Lord, 2024. Hey, it ain't five horsemen. It's four horsemen. One horseman's gone.
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Gone. And we got to face a fact there is blood in the water and they smell the blood.
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They understand they could either all hang together or you're going to hang separately.
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They get this. This is why they're going to try to drive wedges in and try to call the herd.
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This is Alinsky 101. That's what we're up against. Alinsky 101. And people better savvy up to this
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and hunker down. And guess what? It's fixed bayonets. Let's see who's tough enough. We're
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tougher than them if we get organized and say, guess what? No more. No more.
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People have to understand. Don't think this is a speed bump. It's a lot deeper than a speed bump.
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Matt Gaetz was the best of the best. The best of the best. You know what we say here in the war room?
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Wait for it. Wait for it. Next man up. Short commercial break. We'll be back in the war room in just a moment.
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silver today. Lease that Matt Gaetz is acting in self-interest. I think the particulars of this
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ethics investigation would have come out and he would have had to deal with them. He would have had,
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and the administration, the incoming administration would have had to deal with them. So I think it's
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a self-interested move. And I don't want us to get too far over our skis with regards to Republican
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senators here. I think Matt Gaetz is an easy case for them to exercise, advise, and consent in this
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regard. But I still think Donald Trump will be consistent in his effort to, in some ways, reel the
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deal in. He's worried about its independence. Donald Trump is, in so many ways, with these appointments,
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trying to consolidate his view of executive power. And so, just as Ken noted, we need to be concerned
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about who he's going to nominate in place of Gaetz. So I think two things. One, Gaetz is acting in
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self-interest. Two, the Senate, let's not get over our skis in terms of them being a check and balance
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on Donald Trump. And three, let's just realize we're in the chaos again. And here it is. It's just
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beginning. So change the face, but not the plan. So my whole idea, I think there are two things that
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are running parallel that are about to converge. One is that Donald Trump has an expansive sense of
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executive power. We've been worried and concerned about the imperial presidency up until this point.
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We're going to see an imperial presidency on steroids. And so there's a reason why he wants
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to have a certain kind of appointment in DOJ. There's a reason for Gilbert Gabbard and DNI. There's
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a reason for the appointment at DOJ. I think we need to understand that for what it is. And then I
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also think there's also this effort to gum up government, not so much to apply, you know,
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to appoint people who are competent, who demonstrate skill and experience, but folk who are committed to
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really deconstructing the administrative state. And so part of what we need to keep track of is how he's
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going to try to consolidate imperial executive power and to how he's going to try to gum up government
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by way of appointing people who really have no interest in governance.
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So Professor Eddie Cloud there, the professor's accurate except for at the end. He's right about
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the converging. So get your number two pencils out. And this piece of nomenclature, which were
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making sure folks totally understand the intellectual construct of it, because the idea, ideas have
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consequences. This is an idea that's going to flow through the Trump second term in a much more
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organized and coherent way than the first term. Remember, it was in February of 2017 that I made
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that ahead that Reince and I were up there with Matt Schlapp at CPAC, where I talked about the
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direction, the lines of work of the first Trump term. And at the third line, I said it was the
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deconstruction of the administrative state. Now, we weren't, quite frankly, in the early days of kind
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of this populist nationalist movement and the surprise win, we didn't really have the intellectual
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firepower or the muzzle velocity on the idea to push it through. So we went back to kind of the
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deregulation mode. That's not deconstruction of the administrative state. That is just taking
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regulations off, right? Could be very powerful, particularly for the economy. But that's like at
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a surface level. It's not actually taking the thing apart brick by brick and reforming it.
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And that was something that was done. And it's one of the reasons we led to the great economics
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that we had later. But that's just regulation. In this time, we've had much more to think about.
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One thing we got there, and this is where Mike Davis and Mark Paoletta and Bill McGinley and others
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of us have been working together on this project for eight or 10 years. The other critical part of
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it was the selection of the Supreme Court justices. And this gets back to this complicated Greek tragedy
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interconnects to Merrick Garland. Merrick Garland was selected in the summer of, and I think it was
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because Scalia passed away. He was selected to be the new associate justice. And the democratic forces
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were so arrogant, and they were going to blow out Trump. They didn't move his nomination forward.
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They didn't force the action. They didn't force it through. Number one is that there were a lot of
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people in Hillary's camp that thought Obama was too conservative, and they thought Merrick Garland
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was too much of a centrist. They wanted a more Larry Tribe type. Couldn't be Tribe because he's too
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old, because you want to get these guys. Even Garland was quite old for what our target is, which is in
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their 40s. We wanted an upset, so we got that slot. The first guy out was Neil Gorsuch. Neil Gorsuch
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was selected for a principal reason. He was the intellectual architect of this movement, really came from
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the libertarian side, of the deconstruction of the administrative state, of taking the administrative
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state on. If you don't take that on, this Leviathan is going to overwhelm you, and you're going to have no
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liberty. And this is what we've seen in these four years. That was pay a letter. And who got him through?
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Who was his clerk? It was Mike Davis. And who was the guy that got him through working with
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Grassland and Kavanaugh? Mike Davis. So we fought this fight, but the thing that I realized then is
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that, hey, you have to anchor it in the courts. You have to anchor it in the courts. Those checks and
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balances, you want to deconstruct the administration. It just can't be the executive. It just can't be the
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legislature. It's got to be anchored in the courts. And now we've anchored it. Now, in the working
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through, and this is what I found so upsetting about Brennan's comments today when we started the
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show, there is this concept of the unitary executive. This is what Professor Glaude's
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talking about. And this is where there's this theory of the case, particularly in that the
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Constitution lays out that the president is the chief executive of the government. He's also
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commander in chief as a civilian of the armed forces. And he's, wait for it, the chief magistrate
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and the chief law enforcement officer. Post-Watergate, this is what's been hived off. The Justice
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Department is hermetically sealed, but it's all run by these progressive attorneys.
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It's the most powerful of all the departments, because every department, you have to go through
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justice. You have to go through main justice. Plus, they control all the U.S. attorneys throughout
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the country. It is immensely powerful. Oh, by the way, and it controls the investigative branch
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in the FBI. This fight over the unitary executive is there coming at us saying, oh, Trump has this
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imperial presidency. What do they mean by the imperial presidency? They mean pre-Watergate
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of Nixon and Johnson and a little bit Kennedy, but Eisenhower all the way back to FDR,
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the imperial presidency, where the executive is above everybody else. Well, you still have the
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checks and balances, but the unitary executive, to me, says that all three of these, CEO, commander
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in chief and chief magistrate. This is the reason Millie has to be recalled to active duty on the
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afternoon of the 20th and court-martialed. The military, the uniformed services, and also
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with the senior officers about Afghanistan, the military must understand in no uncertain terms
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that they report to the civilian. If that civilian is Donald Trump or AOC or Bernie Sanders or whoever
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it is, it doesn't matter. The American people render a judgment. It's their judgment. That's
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what they want, and that's what they're going to get. That's democracy. It's messy and it's hard
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and it's tough, and sometimes you don't get the outcomes you like, but that's the way, that's the
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way the structure of this government's work, and we've got this fourth branch of government that the
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founders and framers, the revolutionary generation, not in a billion years will ever felt
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that we let grow around this. This is what they hated about the crown. Remember, their central
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argument about the crown is that the crown, with all these courtiers, had corrupted commons. The
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commons was basically bought and paid for by this worthless landist aristocracy that also, oh, by the
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way, gave monopolistic power to companies that they chose with a crown, you know, right of mark,
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i.e., the British East India Company that brought the tea into Boston Harbor that was thrown over the
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side in the Boston Tea Party. This fight goes back to the revolution. That's why I said when I say we
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are we are linked by patriot graves all the way back to the beginning. We answer to them. We answer to
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their great victories. Professor Glaude is only, when he says converge, he then says gum up. No, it is the
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theory of the unitary executive, and this gets to counter Brennan. When Brennan says, well, the FBI and
00:25:54.400
the city, they have to go through the security checks, and these checks goes, you know, they have, no, bro,
00:25:58.420
no, no, wrong. Inside the executive, there's no check and balance. There's none. The Constitution
00:26:04.920
doesn't call for that. It's none. It's not a check and balance inside the executive. The checks and
00:26:09.100
balance are the legislative and the judiciary, just like the executive's check and balance on them. No,
00:26:15.060
sir, this is what the deep state is. The permanent government thinks that they have a check on the
00:26:22.860
what they call the politicals, the democratic elected government. You don't have that. No,
00:26:27.780
sir, no, sir, no, sir. This is the convergence. Professor Glaude, it's not to gum up the works.
00:26:34.720
It is actually to take it apart brick by brick and to reconstitute it into a limited government that
00:26:43.300
is necessary in an entrepreneurial capitalist society, right, to make sure that we get the
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blessings of liberty. That's it in a nutshell. And that is a massive, massive fight. And we took a
00:27:00.500
casualty today. One of the best warriors we have in all his imperfections, and he's quite imperfect
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as Donald Trump is imperfect, as Stephen K. Bannon is a super imperfect, and Tucker Carlson, and Vivek
00:27:20.440
Ramaswamy, and Elon Musk, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., all of it. Very, very, very imperfect instruments.
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But in that imperfection is some of their power. We took a casualty today. One of the reasons we took a
00:27:40.460
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00:27:46.600
no air cover. What are we doing? You can't stick them out there and take them off television. They're
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the best at selling themselves. You take them off television for five, six, seven, eight days,
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and it's nothing but incoming. Where is the plan, and where is the execution of the plan?
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It's a big defeat for President Trump today, and trust me, those demons and jackals and hyenas
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...do with and had no idea who was involved with Project 2025. Donald Trump's picks for his new
00:29:31.180
administration, well, they suggest otherwise. At least six of Trump's nominees or appointees have ties
00:29:36.480
to Project 2025, either as advisors, authors, contributors, or in promotional videos. That number is also
00:29:43.400
likely to rise. Trump is reportedly leaning toward appointing Russ Vought to lead the White House
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Budget Office for a second time, this time with a sharper intention. In the Project 2025 chapter,
00:29:54.600
he wrote on the executive office, he focused on the expansion of presidential powers and a more
00:30:00.460
aggressive wielding of executive authority. So, Vaughn, explain the now closer and closer ties
00:30:07.480
Donald Trump has to something that he disavowed during the campaign.
00:30:13.820
Exactly. He repeatedly denied having anything to do with Project 2025, despite him speaking,
00:30:18.940
of course, at essentially the launch dinner of Project 2025 and noting that these people were
00:30:24.260
his friends. They carried out his first administration and they were going to be the masterminds of what
00:30:28.760
his second administration and transition would look like. And you're seeing some of these figures
00:30:32.740
come into his incoming administration. People like Russ Vought, let's be very clear. If he were
00:30:37.620
to take over OMB, he was a key writer in Project 2025, writing in part about the executive branch's use
00:30:46.740
of power and making the case that departments and agencies have taken on a mind of their own,
00:30:52.220
as he wrote, and that the executive branch should fall under the direction of the president of the
00:30:57.420
United States and that it is not up to these departments and agencies to interpret regulations,
00:31:02.180
but it's of the courts or strict language that is written thereof that is passed by Congress.
00:31:08.320
And so I think for Donald Trump, when you're looking at Project 2025, we knew that they had ties and now
00:31:13.680
we are seeing this beginning to play out based off the individuals who he is bringing back into the
00:31:18.560
fold because it was these folks who wrote that 900 page book on how the departments and agencies
00:31:23.720
could more effectively run. Yeah. And this was seen as a blueprint for what Donald Trump could do if he
00:31:29.680
were to win again. Donald Trump obviously disavowed it, but he's appointing people who have ties to
00:31:34.440
it, as we keep talking about. Olivia, when you look through Project 2025, I know it's a very long
00:31:40.420
booklet, and you're looking at who he's putting into these positions of power, what is your expectation
00:31:47.060
of how that manifesto will end up affecting decisions made while Donald Trump is back in the White House?
00:31:58.420
Oh, I have no doubt that this agenda will be implemented. Look, I mean, this started during
00:32:02.580
the first Trump administration. I think some of these policies were tested and they were met with
00:32:07.120
resistance from people who were adhering to the rule of law and what government is really meant to do.
00:32:12.180
It's for the people, by the people, and serving them. But I think that there is a group that has
00:32:17.640
a very extreme agenda here, and you're going to see a lot of these people get appointed into these
00:32:21.700
roles. And I want to get back to Russ Vogt because I think that is one person that I'm watching closely.
00:32:26.160
I want to make clear that that role in the Office of Management and Budget is critical because it
00:32:31.900
really oversees the coordination of policy across the federal government. And all of these players that
00:32:37.320
are involved, like Stephen Miller, Tom Homan, like all of these different people that are being
00:32:40.900
mentioned, were all part of the first time around where they tried to push some extreme immigration
00:32:45.560
measures. Or, for example, when OMB got involved, sometimes they wouldn't even allow policies that
00:32:52.100
told hospitals how to wash, I mean, hospital gowns during the pandemic, during a crisis. These were the
00:32:58.220
holdups because it was being held by people working in OMB who were not doctors, who shouldn't be
00:33:02.740
involved in these processes. And that's why this matters. And so I think it's important to really study
00:33:08.220
that 900-page plan. I've read it front to back. And I know that a lot of these things that are in
00:33:12.620
there, when people are like, oh, it was hyperbole. No, these are the policy agendas. And that is what
00:33:21.120
Okay. Welcome back. A lot said there, and a lot of it quite smart.
00:33:25.500
Our enemies do a good job of deconstructing what's going on. So Russ Vogt, we've had him here for,
00:33:33.360
you know, on for the last four years, ever since he left the Trump administration first term.
00:33:38.940
One of the single smartest guys I've ever met, and one of the smartest guys ever about the U.S.
00:33:46.380
government, outside of the chief of staff, the power centers in a West Wing, the first level
00:33:56.300
are the chief of staff, the White House counsel, and OMB. And you might throw a couple of senior
00:34:04.020
counselors in there, whoever they happen to be, who are senior advisors to the principal,
00:34:09.400
to POTUS, in any administration, right? So, but those three run nodes of power that are essential.
00:34:21.300
Everything comes to the White House counsel, because everything's got some legal aspect to it. OMB
00:34:25.340
has about 600, I think, permanent employees and 30 roughly political people that are assigned,
00:34:35.260
or brought in. Every program, when you pass this budget, right, when you do the appropriations,
00:34:42.500
you pass over a budget to kind of get your top line number. You then have the appropriations
00:34:46.280
process where you fight it through. And then it's finally negotiated and passed. Once it goes over,
00:34:51.680
it's like, well, then what happens? How do people get the money? Well, it's broken down. Office of
00:34:56.560
Management budget is out to every agency, the Defense Department, the Agriculture Department,
00:35:02.380
the Interior Department, the Treasury Department. How that six and a half or seven trillion dollars
00:35:09.000
gets spent, believe it or not, it's all tracked down to literally the penny, when it goes in,
00:35:16.680
where it goes, who got the money, and programmatically where they stand on doing whatever they do.
00:35:22.620
So although it may seem vastly inefficient, and it is, it is tracked. Like MTG was on here today,
00:35:32.720
say, hey, we've given 250 billion dollars to Ukraine, and she's asking for an audit,
00:35:36.860
and we haven't got anything, because it's sitting there going, I don't know where it goes. I don't
00:35:39.400
know where it is. They're lying to her. She knows they're lying to her. So programmatically,
00:35:45.820
OMB is a beast, and the head of OMB has immense and enormous power. This is why I keep talking about
00:35:53.420
the Doge element, and now I think because the way the Doge, and let's leave the bro side aside,
00:36:00.560
because they're beating on chess, and that's great. We need that. That energy helped us win
00:36:03.920
on November 5th, and we need that. We need more of that.
00:36:07.320
But in the reality of how actually things are going to get accomplished, if you read the Doge
00:36:13.980
layout, it's not a new department. It is a group of outside, and they're very up front, Vivek and Elon.
00:36:19.580
We are outside the government, advisors and consultants to, wait for it, OMB. And this makes
00:36:29.100
incredible sense. It's very smart. The Doge, and they're going to have their own group,
00:36:34.640
and of course, MTG's got the subcommittee on oversight, which I also think is brilliant,
00:36:39.280
to now kind of work in unison with Russ Vogt and his team on the Project 2025. Did I say that?
00:36:48.860
I love, I love triggering the libs, owning the libs with the Project 2025 guys that may or may not be
00:37:00.000
coming on board. In this regard, if you want to get control of the leviathan, you get control of
00:37:09.700
the cash. Remember in Watergate? Follow the money. Follow the money. Here, it is the money of not the
00:37:19.420
sources of cash, which is a problem and an issue. This is the uses of cash. You have sources and uses.
00:37:26.700
Anytime you do a financing or merger, acquisition, restructuring, bankruptcy, sources of cash,
00:37:35.120
uses of cash. This is the uses side. And this is where Vivek and Elon and others are going to go
00:37:42.780
through and see how you deconstruct this entity called a state or a government, right? State power
00:37:51.260
to actually come together and to try to take programmatically, because it's not always fraud
00:37:58.020
and abuse. It's going to become programs. We're not going to do this. We're not going to do that.
00:38:02.160
We're not going to do this. The private sector can do it or we incentivize people to do it.
00:38:11.800
And this is the all important line of work on both the finance. And I think later tonight or maybe
00:38:20.600
tomorrow, we will have a secretary of treasury and a secretary of the treasury and maybe a head of
00:38:27.960
the National Economic Council. Remember, anchored in the anchored in the White House right through to
00:38:33.300
an agency anchored with with Bill McGinley as White House counsel, right? All the way through justice to
00:38:40.460
the attorney general, the DAG, the PDAG, all of it. Now, the structure there is fine. We have a we have
00:38:48.260
a we have a problem. Houston, we have a problem. The the anchor on the other side, Matt Gates, is now a
00:38:56.880
casualty of war. He is a casualty of political war. He's our first casualty. Fixed bayonets. You're in
00:39:04.200
the trenches. You're going over the top. Boom. Gates is gone. That happens. This is kind of the equivalent
00:39:11.300
of in the Civil War of Albert Sidney Johnson, arguably our greatest general at the time, getting taken out in
00:39:20.940
Shiloh in April, I think, of 1862 at the at the, you know, at the kind of the beginning of everything. You lose some of
00:39:30.940
the great ones right out of the box. Or because I'm not just sitting there arguing for rebels.
00:39:39.060
General Philip Kearney, who died second Manassas, one of the greats, an incredible individual,
00:39:45.100
credible, one armed. One of just the absolute greats killed. I think it's second Manassas.
00:39:50.440
Another one. You just lose them right at the beginning. And these are the types of guys you can
00:39:54.020
never you can never make up. That's Gates. Gates is out. Will he come back and be special
00:40:01.760
prosecutor? Yes. Gates is always going to be a player in this. Is he advisers to the president?
00:40:06.660
Does he go in the West Wing? Maybe that's what we do. He don't have to be confirmed. There's lots of
00:40:10.640
things to do with Gates. He's a he's tremendous value. But in the reality, in that line of work,
00:40:17.180
which AG is absolutely central, he's out and and the blood, their blood in the water and they got
00:40:24.740
to win. They got a big win. But on the on another aspect of the line of work, which is equally
00:40:32.080
important, and that is the getting together of our finances and the economy and unlocking the power
00:40:37.880
of this entrepreneurial capitalist society. It is taking on the Leviathan, because until you take on
00:40:44.780
the Leviathan and get this one, it's going to do all kind of stuff you don't want it to do, which
00:40:48.820
are bad things, many bad things like initiate and exacerbate an invasion of every country. Think
00:40:56.100
about that for a second. Initiate and exacerbate an invasion of 10 or 15 million. Are you kidding
00:41:02.920
me? Illegal aliens in this country. So the administrative state and the deep state do many, many bad
00:41:10.980
things that has to be deconstructed so that we have a limited government that
00:41:14.420
helps to maximize the potential from a capitalist society. And so that folks can get the blessings
00:41:22.840
of liberty, which is the whole radical idea that started this constitutional republic.
00:41:32.240
That's it. If this wasn't the idea, we've been part, we would have been the anchor. You had India
00:41:37.500
in the Pacific and you had the are in the Indian Ocean and are the Eurasian landmass and you had
00:41:42.540
the United States in North America. They were about the same time, roughly, the two legs to the
00:41:47.660
beginning of a massive empire, the British Empire. We opted out in the in the in the in the basically
00:41:54.360
laying the predicate stage, the kind of launch that by the revolutionary generation, the heroes
00:42:01.680
that every patriot grave, we go back to the revolution.
00:42:04.560
And because of divine providence, providential. Next April 20th, approximately, I don't know, 90 days
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00:42:22.920
world. That just doesn't happen. Divine providence worked through Trump and work through you,
00:42:31.060
your agency to get us here today. And hey, it's going to be such a struggle. And today,
00:42:39.280
I hope this is a wake up call. I hope this was a bitch slap that we lost one of the greats
00:42:46.420
and he may be back, but he ain't going to be in the role that we need him as attorney general.
00:42:57.180
And Russ Vogt is a organizer that can organize what Doge is going to do, what can help organize
00:43:05.320
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00:43:11.060
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00:43:18.320
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Okay, we got to hunker down. We got to hunker down. If you want to change this government,
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you're going to have to get agents of change, change agents in there, agents of change.
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Six o'clock hour. Got postal coming. A lot to go through.
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Number one is hang separately or hang together.
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Right? I guess it's hang together or hang separately. Appropriate way to say it.
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Also about Ukraine. We got a situation over there. We got a metastasizing conflict. And
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somebody better in the house better get Biden and find out what in the hell is going on here.
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We need to exert some parental supervision or President Trump's going to be jammed up.
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Ken Paxson, we hope, can join us by phone. He's now shortlisted, looks like, for Attorney General
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financial newsletter, Strategic Intelligence, and New York Times bestselling author, is warning
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about a coming event that could elevate this governmental surveillance to a terrifying new
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level. In fact, some of the guests I've had on the war room believe that the government
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will soon expand their powers to track our every move. If we say the wrong things on social media,
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donate to the wrong causes, buy firearms, or even vote MAGA, the government may be able to shut us
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out of our bank accounts. I can't say for sure if this will happen, but it's an interesting and dire
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