Bannon's War Room - Episode 4074： Blood In The Water; We Are Linked From Patriots

00:00:00.000 with that stunning announcement less than an hour ago that Matt Gaetz is withdrawing his name from

00:00:04.780 consideration to serve as Donald Trump's attorney general. In a tweet announcing the decision,

00:00:09.900 Gaetz said his confirmation was becoming a distraction to the incoming administration,

00:00:14.820 writing, quote, there is no time to waste on a needlessly protracted Washington scuffle.

00:00:22.240 Trump's DOJ must be in place and ready on day one. Fast. It could have been one of the first

00:00:28.480 political flashpoints of the new Trump era is over. And it ended not with a bang, but a bit of

00:00:34.600 a whimper. Matt Gaetz today withdrawing his nomination for attorney general in a post saying

00:00:39.520 this, quote, there is no time to waste on the needlessly protracted Washington scuffle.

00:00:45.200 His withdrawal comes after a day spent on Capitol Hill talking to Republican senators alongside J.D.

00:00:51.100 Vance and amid a steady drip, drip, drip of seedy revelations out of the investigations into Matt

00:00:57.620 Gaetz that would ultimately turn into a flood. To me, at least, that Matt Gaetz is acting in

00:01:03.320 self-interest. I think the particulars of this ethics investigation would have come out and he

00:01:09.200 would have had to deal with them. He would have had and the administration, the incoming

00:01:12.480 administration would have had to deal with him. So I think it's a self-interested move. And I don't

00:01:16.080 want us to get too far over our skis with regards to Republican senators here. I think Matt Gaetz is an easy

00:01:21.600 case for them to to to exercise, advise and consent in this regard. But I still think Donald Trump will

00:01:27.520 be consistent in his effort to, in some ways, reel the DOJ in. He's worried about its independence.

00:01:34.700 Donald Trump is in so many ways with these appointments trying to consolidate his view

00:01:38.840 of executive power. And so just as Ken noted, we need to be concerned about who's going to who he's

00:01:44.440 going to nominate in place of Gaetz. So I think two things. One, Gaetz is acting in self-interest.

00:01:50.100 Two, the Senate, let's not get over our skis in terms of them being a check and balance on Donald

00:01:54.660 Trump. And three, let's just realize we're in the chaos again. And here it is. It's just beginning.

00:02:02.860 So change the face, but not the plan.

00:02:05.580 Exactly.

00:02:07.000 So what do you see coming, Eddie? What are you going to be watching for?

00:02:12.340 So my whole idea, I think there are two things that are running parallel that are about to converge.

00:02:17.620 One is that Donald Trump has an expansive sense of executive power. We've been worried and concerned

00:02:23.260 about the imperial presidency up until this point. We're going to see an imperial presidency on

00:02:27.920 steroids. And so there's a reason why he wants to have a certain kind of appointment in DOJ.

00:02:31.840 There's a reason for Gilbert Gabbard and DNI. There's a reason for the appointment at DOD. I think

00:02:37.660 we need to understand that for what it is. And then I also think there's also this effort to

00:02:41.960 gum up government, not so much to apply, you know, to appoint people who are competent,

00:02:46.740 who demonstrate skill and experience, but folk who are committed to really deconstructing

00:02:53.180 the administrative state. And so part of what we need to keep track of is how he's going to try to

00:02:59.040 consolidate imperial executive power and to how he's going to try to gum up government by way of

00:03:05.020 appointing people who really have no interest in governance.

00:03:10.520 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval

00:03:18.620 on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people had

00:03:25.520 a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world

00:03:29.480 to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that

00:03:33.140 go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a

00:03:41.200 conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,

00:03:49.340 this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:03:55.740 It's Thursday, correct? 21 November, year of the Lord, 2024. Welcome to the late afternoon,

00:04:07.220 early evening show of the world. In fact, this is the type of day that the afternoon, evening show

00:04:13.460 is made for when something explosive happens through the day that informs everything we're

00:04:19.500 working on. Matt Gaetz has withdrawn his nomination. And look, let's be brutally frank. You can't take

00:04:29.580 this any other way than a Mitch McConnell win. I mean, they're laughing up there in the Senate.

00:04:39.040 They just are. They also smell, they taste blood in the water. Everybody had to hang together on this

00:04:46.820 and kind of force it across the goal line. If you're going to do something like this, it's high

00:04:52.100 risk, but it's super high reward. Matt Gaetz was the warrior's warrior. Always going to be a risky

00:04:57.740 choice, but just over a week into it, punches out, I'm sure for good reasons. I think one thing,

00:05:06.820 and I want to get back to Professor Eddie Glaude from Princeton, who I think very succinctly

00:05:16.500 walk through what's going on here. But before I do, I want to make sure the audience is totally

00:05:23.480 informed. Do we have off of my getter feed, or if Grace has put it up on Twitter yet,

00:05:32.640 if you can pull this story of yesterday and just put it up on the screen, or from this morning.

00:05:38.980 This is when they went around yesterday, and this was Senator J.D. Vance, the vice president

00:05:44.140 elect of the United States of America, took Matt Gaetz around. They had to make deals in the room,

00:05:50.860 and yesterday was not particularly successful. The rationale of Gaetz is that, hey, at the end of

00:05:57.020 the day yesterday, I had four hard no's. I had Murkowski, I had Collins, I had McConnell, and added the

00:06:05.300 guy, Curtis. This is the worst than Romney clone out of Utah. Folks in Utah, understand you got a

00:06:11.180 problem out there. You got a problem out there. So they had four dug in no's. But my point is, hey,

00:06:19.560 in the first couple of days, you're taking incoming because there's no comms plan. There's no surrogates

00:06:24.040 out there. You're just getting brutalized every day. That's not the worst thing in the world.

00:06:28.480 Gaetz said there's another four that, I guess after yesterday, told him essentially we're quasi-hard no's.

00:06:35.940 That's eight. You got the president. We haven't put forth an effort here. There really hasn't been

00:06:44.240 any communications planned. There's been no surrogates out there. I'm not even sure he had

00:06:49.180 a Sherpa assigned, some senator like a Norm Coleman or someone to provide him air cover. Not even sure

00:06:56.160 that was installed. This is the very early stages. That's a pretty quick withdrawal. But I want to bring

00:07:03.680 your attention to, at least according to the reporting of Politico and other people in the room,

00:07:11.080 what Gaetz was forced to trade off. And I think that is MSNBC, Fauci and Cheney, among others.

00:07:22.120 There would be no investigation of in the criminal, the vast criminal conspiracy of MSNBC.

00:07:27.980 This is your senators putting pressure, putting pressure on Gaetz in the room. No investigations

00:07:35.900 into Fauci. No investigations in the Cheney. Think about this for a second. All the murder and mayhem

00:07:44.200 caused by Fauci, all the deaths, all the, all the carnage, everything that happened during the COVID

00:07:53.900 years. They, and I have not verified this. I'm going off of this. This is Mediite summary.

00:08:00.780 I think it's Politico's reporting, but other people's reporting that these meetings,

00:08:06.740 they even started like trading chits that if they were prepared to not sponsor Gaetz, but according to

00:08:14.280 them, hold their nose and vote for him and not come as a hard note right now, what you had to,

00:08:21.360 what you had to give up. And that's just from repeat, no investigation into Dr. Fauci,

00:08:26.920 no investigation into Weissman and this crowd from everywhere going all the way back to the

00:08:33.440 original Russia hoax with, with a shifty shift and Rachel Madd on that crowd and no, uh, no

00:08:42.440 investigation of Cheney and her relation to the J6 committee, what she did on the J6 committee.

00:08:46.760 That's, that's for starters. That's his first day up there. This is the easy day. We're not into the

00:08:54.300 hard days. The hard days would be in late December when you're grinding through. There was some truly

00:08:59.160 hard nose and Hey Matt, you've had a month and a half and Trump's had a month and a half to grind

00:09:03.920 this through. And we're still a hard no or we're on the border. You got to give me something.

00:09:07.300 You got to give me something. You got to give me a U S attorney. I need a U S attorney out in my,

00:09:12.420 cause it's all horse trading. You need got to give me a U S attorney out in, uh, you know,

00:09:16.580 out in my home state. Or, uh, I need somebody at me. I need a couple of sub cabinet positions over

00:09:22.280 at USDA. I need this. This is the horse train that goes on. They're horse trading out on the first day.

00:09:28.360 No investigation of Dr. Fauci, no investigation of MSNBC, no investigation of Cheney.

00:09:33.940 Um, this is the, the Senate, the Senate is the human resources department of the United States

00:09:40.580 government. This is the check and balance of the brilliance of our founders. And it was quite

00:09:45.860 brilliant, but they're the human, their primary function is human resources department or treaties. 0.94

00:09:52.200 And as you know, the United States were not into treaties, you know, this is why climate and the,

00:09:59.080 and people nowadays have gone out of their way to make sure they're not treaties because it can't

00:10:04.840 get two thirds of the Senate. Essentially can't get tough to get over 50%, 50 and a couple of votes.

00:10:13.040 Gates is gone. Gates is gone. And I think we have to, um, be brutally Frank. I'm not here to kid.

00:10:22.760 Look, the war room posse and the cadres and all that, you guys are going to get to the ramparts

00:10:28.300 and we're going to win just like we won last time. But Hey, you're going to hit speed bumps.

00:10:33.460 And here was a victory of this is Mitch McConnell and Trump took a bullet to the head, won a landslide.

00:10:42.380 They don't hold the house and they certainly don't take the Senate. It's all Trump.

00:10:46.980 And already they're reasserting themselves. They're reasserting non-MAGA. They're asserting

00:10:52.720 that not to Trump and the president, please, Mr. President, understand the people around you

00:10:57.980 that tell you, this is okay. This is not okay. You're not going to get anything done. Nothing. Zero.

00:11:05.980 Unless we fought just like in football, unless we force your will upon it and we can,

00:11:12.100 it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. It's just not going to happen because

00:11:19.280 the forces of resistance and they're vast on the radical democratic side, Ray and Mayorkas

00:11:26.780 refuse to testify in front of the democratic Senate because they don't want to come back

00:11:31.640 and have to do in front of the house, refuse to testify. There's people pouring across the

00:11:34.820 border. They're playing games with the balance sheet of the fed and the balance sheet of the

00:11:38.560 United States. You know about how they're financing the debt.

00:11:41.840 You got this war metastasizing. Poso's coming on at six o'clock. This war in Ukraine

00:11:47.120 couldn't be more serious. Go to Drudge. And I realize Drudge is not the Drudge of all,

00:11:51.620 but look at the Mac Daddy on Drudge. Look at the Mac Daddy on Drudge. This thing's as serious

00:11:57.040 as it could possibly get. They're Trump proofing this government. Are the Republicans doing as

00:12:07.440 good a job as possible and stopping the judge? No. Braun and Cruz aren't even around.

00:12:11.820 I don't know what Cruz is doing. He's down there hanging out with Elon. We don't need you hanging

00:12:15.280 out with Elon, Senator. You're the best of the best when it comes to the Constitution. You're the

00:12:21.760 best of the best on judiciary. You got to be the best of the best in standing in the breach and

00:12:25.240 stopping these judges. This is full game on now. And I hope people, I've been sitting here, I feel

00:12:30.620 like kind of the voice in the wilderness. Everybody's wandering around. They want to go to parties and

00:12:34.700 they're all doing this. And look, we had the parties last night, but we went right to work

00:12:38.740 after that, gave a speech and came back here at 10 o'clock at night, 9 o'clock at night. We're

00:12:42.600 grinding at the 3 in the morning. I'm not saying nothing special. This is other people doing it

00:12:46.740 too. But this is not a time for celebration. This is a time for grinding work or in this

00:12:52.940 interregnum before Trump even gets to January 20th, they're going to have it locked down and we're

00:12:57.980 going to be nowhere. This is all about staying on offense. And we hit right perfectly. The first

00:13:04.580 couple of days, perfect. You sucked them in with the Rubio in the Walls announcement.

00:13:12.760 Maybe even a little Radcliffe. And they're sitting there on the sign shows. He's going to be so normal.

00:13:17.340 It's going to be so great. It's going to be so, he's getting Republicans. He got, you know,

00:13:21.120 Nikki Haley's bounced around. Mike Pompeo's bounced around. All going to be fine. This all going to be

00:13:25.260 great. And then kaboom, kaboom, you boom, the five horsemen of the deep state apocalypse. So,

00:13:32.660 hey, guess what? On Wednesday, on Thursday afternoon of the 21st of November, 21 November,

00:13:38.440 the year of our Lord, 2024. Hey, it ain't five horsemen. It's four horsemen. One horseman's gone.

00:13:46.960 Gone. And we got to face a fact there is blood in the water and they smell the blood.

00:13:53.020 They understand they could either all hang together or you're going to hang separately.

00:13:57.780 They get this. This is why they're going to try to drive wedges in and try to call the herd.

00:14:03.940 This is Alinsky 101. That's what we're up against. Alinsky 101. And people better savvy up to this

00:14:09.240 and hunker down. And guess what? It's fixed bayonets. Let's see who's tough enough. We're

00:14:15.360 tougher than them if we get organized and say, guess what? No more. No more.

00:14:19.600 People have to understand. Don't think this is a speed bump. It's a lot deeper than a speed bump.

00:14:24.980 Matt Gaetz was the best of the best. The best of the best. You know what we say here in the war room?

00:14:33.860 Wait for it. Wait for it. Next man up. Short commercial break. We'll be back in the war room in just a moment.

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00:16:18.000 silver today. Lease that Matt Gaetz is acting in self-interest. I think the particulars of this

00:16:25.700 ethics investigation would have come out and he would have had to deal with them. He would have had,

00:16:29.720 and the administration, the incoming administration would have had to deal with them. So I think it's

00:16:33.760 a self-interested move. And I don't want us to get too far over our skis with regards to Republican

00:16:38.000 senators here. I think Matt Gaetz is an easy case for them to exercise, advise, and consent in this

00:16:43.860 regard. But I still think Donald Trump will be consistent in his effort to, in some ways, reel the

00:16:50.220 deal in. He's worried about its independence. Donald Trump is, in so many ways, with these appointments,

00:16:56.060 trying to consolidate his view of executive power. And so, just as Ken noted, we need to be concerned

00:17:02.140 about who he's going to nominate in place of Gaetz. So I think two things. One, Gaetz is acting in

00:17:08.500 self-interest. Two, the Senate, let's not get over our skis in terms of them being a check and balance

00:17:13.200 on Donald Trump. And three, let's just realize we're in the chaos again. And here it is. It's just

00:17:20.760 beginning. So change the face, but not the plan. So my whole idea, I think there are two things that

00:17:26.200 are running parallel that are about to converge. One is that Donald Trump has an expansive sense of

00:17:31.540 executive power. We've been worried and concerned about the imperial presidency up until this point.

00:17:36.940 We're going to see an imperial presidency on steroids. And so there's a reason why he wants

00:17:40.940 to have a certain kind of appointment in DOJ. There's a reason for Gilbert Gabbard and DNI. There's

00:17:46.580 a reason for the appointment at DOJ. I think we need to understand that for what it is. And then I

00:17:51.020 also think there's also this effort to gum up government, not so much to apply, you know,

00:17:56.080 to appoint people who are competent, who demonstrate skill and experience, but folk who are committed to

00:18:01.840 really deconstructing the administrative state. And so part of what we need to keep track of is how he's

00:18:09.400 going to try to consolidate imperial executive power and to how he's going to try to gum up government

00:18:15.080 by way of appointing people who really have no interest in governance.

00:18:20.520 So Professor Eddie Cloud there, the professor's accurate except for at the end. He's right about

00:18:27.580 the converging. So get your number two pencils out. And this piece of nomenclature, which were

00:18:34.000 making sure folks totally understand the intellectual construct of it, because the idea, ideas have

00:18:42.400 consequences. This is an idea that's going to flow through the Trump second term in a much more

00:18:48.700 organized and coherent way than the first term. Remember, it was in February of 2017 that I made

00:18:57.840 that ahead that Reince and I were up there with Matt Schlapp at CPAC, where I talked about the

00:19:03.380 direction, the lines of work of the first Trump term. And at the third line, I said it was the

00:19:10.040 deconstruction of the administrative state. Now, we weren't, quite frankly, in the early days of kind

00:19:16.360 of this populist nationalist movement and the surprise win, we didn't really have the intellectual

00:19:21.920 firepower or the muzzle velocity on the idea to push it through. So we went back to kind of the

00:19:29.960 deregulation mode. That's not deconstruction of the administrative state. That is just taking

00:19:34.340 regulations off, right? Could be very powerful, particularly for the economy. But that's like at

00:19:39.560 a surface level. It's not actually taking the thing apart brick by brick and reforming it.

00:19:44.260 And that was something that was done. And it's one of the reasons we led to the great economics

00:19:52.880 that we had later. But that's just regulation. In this time, we've had much more to think about.

00:20:00.180 One thing we got there, and this is where Mike Davis and Mark Paoletta and Bill McGinley and others

00:20:09.060 of us have been working together on this project for eight or 10 years. The other critical part of

00:20:15.600 it was the selection of the Supreme Court justices. And this gets back to this complicated Greek tragedy

00:20:22.320 interconnects to Merrick Garland. Merrick Garland was selected in the summer of, and I think it was

00:20:31.160 because Scalia passed away. He was selected to be the new associate justice. And the democratic forces

00:20:39.400 were so arrogant, and they were going to blow out Trump. They didn't move his nomination forward.

00:20:44.660 They didn't force the action. They didn't force it through. Number one is that there were a lot of

00:20:49.940 people in Hillary's camp that thought Obama was too conservative, and they thought Merrick Garland

00:20:54.780 was too much of a centrist. They wanted a more Larry Tribe type. Couldn't be Tribe because he's too

00:21:00.600 old, because you want to get these guys. Even Garland was quite old for what our target is, which is in

00:21:05.840 their 40s. We wanted an upset, so we got that slot. The first guy out was Neil Gorsuch. Neil Gorsuch

00:21:13.340 was selected for a principal reason. He was the intellectual architect of this movement, really came from

00:21:21.060 the libertarian side, of the deconstruction of the administrative state, of taking the administrative

00:21:25.240 state on. If you don't take that on, this Leviathan is going to overwhelm you, and you're going to have no

00:21:30.560 liberty. And this is what we've seen in these four years. That was pay a letter. And who got him through?

00:21:37.600 Who was his clerk? It was Mike Davis. And who was the guy that got him through working with

00:21:41.980 Grassland and Kavanaugh? Mike Davis. So we fought this fight, but the thing that I realized then is

00:21:47.460 that, hey, you have to anchor it in the courts. You have to anchor it in the courts. Those checks and

00:21:53.100 balances, you want to deconstruct the administration. It just can't be the executive. It just can't be the

00:21:56.500 legislature. It's got to be anchored in the courts. And now we've anchored it. Now, in the working

00:22:02.540 through, and this is what I found so upsetting about Brennan's comments today when we started the

00:22:07.260 show, there is this concept of the unitary executive. This is what Professor Glaude's

00:22:14.440 talking about. And this is where there's this theory of the case, particularly in that the

00:22:20.900 Constitution lays out that the president is the chief executive of the government. He's also

00:22:31.020 commander in chief as a civilian of the armed forces. And he's, wait for it, the chief magistrate

00:22:39.200 and the chief law enforcement officer. Post-Watergate, this is what's been hived off. The Justice

00:22:46.800 Department is hermetically sealed, but it's all run by these progressive attorneys.

00:22:53.340 It's the most powerful of all the departments, because every department, you have to go through

00:23:00.600 justice. You have to go through main justice. Plus, they control all the U.S. attorneys throughout

00:23:05.500 the country. It is immensely powerful. Oh, by the way, and it controls the investigative branch

00:23:11.720 in the FBI. This fight over the unitary executive is there coming at us saying, oh, Trump has this

00:23:20.060 imperial presidency. What do they mean by the imperial presidency? They mean pre-Watergate

00:23:25.060 of Nixon and Johnson and a little bit Kennedy, but Eisenhower all the way back to FDR,

00:23:31.920 the imperial presidency, where the executive is above everybody else. Well, you still have the

00:23:37.660 checks and balances, but the unitary executive, to me, says that all three of these, CEO, commander

00:23:46.520 in chief and chief magistrate. This is the reason Millie has to be recalled to active duty on the

00:23:53.760 afternoon of the 20th and court-martialed. The military, the uniformed services, and also

00:24:00.680 with the senior officers about Afghanistan, the military must understand in no uncertain terms

00:24:09.320 that they report to the civilian. If that civilian is Donald Trump or AOC or Bernie Sanders or whoever

00:24:15.160 it is, it doesn't matter. The American people render a judgment. It's their judgment. That's

00:24:20.240 what they want, and that's what they're going to get. That's democracy. It's messy and it's hard

00:24:25.480 and it's tough, and sometimes you don't get the outcomes you like, but that's the way, that's the

00:24:30.680 way the structure of this government's work, and we've got this fourth branch of government that the

00:24:35.480 founders and framers, the revolutionary generation, not in a billion years will ever felt

00:24:40.780 that we let grow around this. This is what they hated about the crown. Remember, their central

00:24:47.420 argument about the crown is that the crown, with all these courtiers, had corrupted commons. The

00:24:52.300 commons was basically bought and paid for by this worthless landist aristocracy that also, oh, by the

00:24:57.060 way, gave monopolistic power to companies that they chose with a crown, you know, right of mark,

00:25:05.880 i.e., the British East India Company that brought the tea into Boston Harbor that was thrown over the

00:25:12.660 side in the Boston Tea Party. This fight goes back to the revolution. That's why I said when I say we

00:25:23.220 are we are linked by patriot graves all the way back to the beginning. We answer to them. We answer to

00:25:30.700 their great victories. Professor Glaude is only, when he says converge, he then says gum up. No, it is the

00:25:47.560 theory of the unitary executive, and this gets to counter Brennan. When Brennan says, well, the FBI and

00:25:54.400 the city, they have to go through the security checks, and these checks goes, you know, they have, no, bro,

00:25:58.420 no, no, wrong. Inside the executive, there's no check and balance. There's none. The Constitution

00:26:04.920 doesn't call for that. It's none. It's not a check and balance inside the executive. The checks and

00:26:09.100 balance are the legislative and the judiciary, just like the executive's check and balance on them. No,

00:26:15.060 sir, this is what the deep state is. The permanent government thinks that they have a check on the

00:26:22.860 what they call the politicals, the democratic elected government. You don't have that. No,

00:26:27.780 sir, no, sir, no, sir. This is the convergence. Professor Glaude, it's not to gum up the works.

00:26:34.720 It is actually to take it apart brick by brick and to reconstitute it into a limited government that

00:26:43.300 is necessary in an entrepreneurial capitalist society, right, to make sure that we get the

00:26:50.860 blessings of liberty. That's it in a nutshell. And that is a massive, massive fight. And we took a

00:27:00.500 casualty today. One of the best warriors we have in all his imperfections, and he's quite imperfect

00:27:10.640 as Donald Trump is imperfect, as Stephen K. Bannon is a super imperfect, and Tucker Carlson, and Vivek

00:27:20.440 Ramaswamy, and Elon Musk, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., all of it. Very, very, very imperfect instruments.

00:27:29.560 But in that imperfection is some of their power. We took a casualty today. One of the reasons we took a

00:27:40.460 casualty, I hate to say it, and let me be brutally frank, you can't stick these people out there with

00:27:46.600 no air cover. What are we doing? You can't stick them out there and take them off television. They're

00:27:52.040 the best at selling themselves. You take them off television for five, six, seven, eight days,

00:27:56.740 and it's nothing but incoming. Where is the plan, and where is the execution of the plan?

00:28:03.540 It's a big defeat for President Trump today, and trust me, those demons and jackals and hyenas

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00:29:24.400 ...do with and had no idea who was involved with Project 2025. Donald Trump's picks for his new

00:29:31.180 administration, well, they suggest otherwise. At least six of Trump's nominees or appointees have ties

00:29:36.480 to Project 2025, either as advisors, authors, contributors, or in promotional videos. That number is also

00:29:43.400 likely to rise. Trump is reportedly leaning toward appointing Russ Vought to lead the White House

00:29:48.700 Budget Office for a second time, this time with a sharper intention. In the Project 2025 chapter,

00:29:54.600 he wrote on the executive office, he focused on the expansion of presidential powers and a more

00:30:00.460 aggressive wielding of executive authority. So, Vaughn, explain the now closer and closer ties

00:30:07.480 Donald Trump has to something that he disavowed during the campaign.

00:30:13.820 Exactly. He repeatedly denied having anything to do with Project 2025, despite him speaking,

00:30:18.940 of course, at essentially the launch dinner of Project 2025 and noting that these people were

00:30:24.260 his friends. They carried out his first administration and they were going to be the masterminds of what

00:30:28.760 his second administration and transition would look like. And you're seeing some of these figures

00:30:32.740 come into his incoming administration. People like Russ Vought, let's be very clear. If he were

00:30:37.620 to take over OMB, he was a key writer in Project 2025, writing in part about the executive branch's use

00:30:46.740 of power and making the case that departments and agencies have taken on a mind of their own,

00:30:52.220 as he wrote, and that the executive branch should fall under the direction of the president of the

00:30:57.420 United States and that it is not up to these departments and agencies to interpret regulations,

00:31:02.180 but it's of the courts or strict language that is written thereof that is passed by Congress.

00:31:08.320 And so I think for Donald Trump, when you're looking at Project 2025, we knew that they had ties and now

00:31:13.680 we are seeing this beginning to play out based off the individuals who he is bringing back into the

00:31:18.560 fold because it was these folks who wrote that 900 page book on how the departments and agencies

00:31:23.720 could more effectively run. Yeah. And this was seen as a blueprint for what Donald Trump could do if he

00:31:29.680 were to win again. Donald Trump obviously disavowed it, but he's appointing people who have ties to

00:31:34.440 it, as we keep talking about. Olivia, when you look through Project 2025, I know it's a very long

00:31:40.420 booklet, and you're looking at who he's putting into these positions of power, what is your expectation

00:31:47.060 of how that manifesto will end up affecting decisions made while Donald Trump is back in the White House?

00:31:58.420 Oh, I have no doubt that this agenda will be implemented. Look, I mean, this started during

00:32:02.580 the first Trump administration. I think some of these policies were tested and they were met with

00:32:07.120 resistance from people who were adhering to the rule of law and what government is really meant to do.

00:32:12.180 It's for the people, by the people, and serving them. But I think that there is a group that has

00:32:17.640 a very extreme agenda here, and you're going to see a lot of these people get appointed into these

00:32:21.700 roles. And I want to get back to Russ Vogt because I think that is one person that I'm watching closely.

00:32:26.160 I want to make clear that that role in the Office of Management and Budget is critical because it

00:32:31.900 really oversees the coordination of policy across the federal government. And all of these players that

00:32:37.320 are involved, like Stephen Miller, Tom Homan, like all of these different people that are being

00:32:40.900 mentioned, were all part of the first time around where they tried to push some extreme immigration

00:32:45.560 measures. Or, for example, when OMB got involved, sometimes they wouldn't even allow policies that

00:32:52.100 told hospitals how to wash, I mean, hospital gowns during the pandemic, during a crisis. These were the

00:32:58.220 holdups because it was being held by people working in OMB who were not doctors, who shouldn't be

00:33:02.740 involved in these processes. And that's why this matters. And so I think it's important to really study

00:33:08.220 that 900-page plan. I've read it front to back. And I know that a lot of these things that are in

00:33:12.620 there, when people are like, oh, it was hyperbole. No, these are the policy agendas. And that is what

00:33:17.400 we're up against going forward.

00:33:21.120 Okay. Welcome back. A lot said there, and a lot of it quite smart.

00:33:25.500 Our enemies do a good job of deconstructing what's going on. So Russ Vogt, we've had him here for,

00:33:33.360 you know, on for the last four years, ever since he left the Trump administration first term.

00:33:38.940 One of the single smartest guys I've ever met, and one of the smartest guys ever about the U.S.

00:33:46.380 government, outside of the chief of staff, the power centers in a West Wing, the first level

00:33:56.300 are the chief of staff, the White House counsel, and OMB. And you might throw a couple of senior

00:34:04.020 counselors in there, whoever they happen to be, who are senior advisors to the principal,

00:34:09.400 to POTUS, in any administration, right? So, but those three run nodes of power that are essential.

00:34:21.300 Everything comes to the White House counsel, because everything's got some legal aspect to it. OMB

00:34:25.340 has about 600, I think, permanent employees and 30 roughly political people that are assigned,

00:34:35.260 or brought in. Every program, when you pass this budget, right, when you do the appropriations,

00:34:42.500 you pass over a budget to kind of get your top line number. You then have the appropriations

00:34:46.280 process where you fight it through. And then it's finally negotiated and passed. Once it goes over,

00:34:51.680 it's like, well, then what happens? How do people get the money? Well, it's broken down. Office of

00:34:56.560 Management budget is out to every agency, the Defense Department, the Agriculture Department,

00:35:02.380 the Interior Department, the Treasury Department. How that six and a half or seven trillion dollars

00:35:09.000 gets spent, believe it or not, it's all tracked down to literally the penny, when it goes in,

00:35:16.680 where it goes, who got the money, and programmatically where they stand on doing whatever they do.

00:35:22.620 So although it may seem vastly inefficient, and it is, it is tracked. Like MTG was on here today,

00:35:32.720 say, hey, we've given 250 billion dollars to Ukraine, and she's asking for an audit,

00:35:36.860 and we haven't got anything, because it's sitting there going, I don't know where it goes. I don't

00:35:39.400 know where it is. They're lying to her. She knows they're lying to her. So programmatically,

00:35:45.820 OMB is a beast, and the head of OMB has immense and enormous power. This is why I keep talking about

00:35:53.420 the Doge element, and now I think because the way the Doge, and let's leave the bro side aside, 0.82

00:36:00.560 because they're beating on chess, and that's great. We need that. That energy helped us win

00:36:03.920 on November 5th, and we need that. We need more of that.

00:36:07.320 But in the reality of how actually things are going to get accomplished, if you read the Doge

00:36:13.980 layout, it's not a new department. It is a group of outside, and they're very up front, Vivek and Elon.

00:36:19.580 We are outside the government, advisors and consultants to, wait for it, OMB. And this makes

00:36:29.100 incredible sense. It's very smart. The Doge, and they're going to have their own group,

00:36:34.640 and of course, MTG's got the subcommittee on oversight, which I also think is brilliant,

00:36:39.280 to now kind of work in unison with Russ Vogt and his team on the Project 2025. Did I say that?

00:36:48.860 I love, I love triggering the libs, owning the libs with the Project 2025 guys that may or may not be

00:37:00.000 coming on board. In this regard, if you want to get control of the leviathan, you get control of

00:37:09.700 the cash. Remember in Watergate? Follow the money. Follow the money. Here, it is the money of not the

00:37:19.420 sources of cash, which is a problem and an issue. This is the uses of cash. You have sources and uses.

00:37:26.700 Anytime you do a financing or merger, acquisition, restructuring, bankruptcy, sources of cash,

00:37:35.120 uses of cash. This is the uses side. And this is where Vivek and Elon and others are going to go

00:37:42.780 through and see how you deconstruct this entity called a state or a government, right? State power

00:37:51.260 to actually come together and to try to take programmatically, because it's not always fraud

00:37:58.020 and abuse. It's going to become programs. We're not going to do this. We're not going to do that.

00:38:02.160 We're not going to do this. The private sector can do it or we incentivize people to do it. 0.98

00:38:08.820 This is why Russ Vogt is so important.

00:38:11.800 And this is the all important line of work on both the finance. And I think later tonight or maybe

00:38:20.600 tomorrow, we will have a secretary of treasury and a secretary of the treasury and maybe a head of

00:38:27.960 the National Economic Council. Remember, anchored in the anchored in the White House right through to

00:38:33.300 an agency anchored with with Bill McGinley as White House counsel, right? All the way through justice to

00:38:40.460 the attorney general, the DAG, the PDAG, all of it. Now, the structure there is fine. We have a we have

00:38:48.260 a we have a problem. Houston, we have a problem. The the anchor on the other side, Matt Gates, is now a

00:38:56.880 casualty of war. He is a casualty of political war. He's our first casualty. Fixed bayonets. You're in

00:39:04.200 the trenches. You're going over the top. Boom. Gates is gone. That happens. This is kind of the equivalent

00:39:11.300 of in the Civil War of Albert Sidney Johnson, arguably our greatest general at the time, getting taken out in

00:39:20.940 Shiloh in April, I think, of 1862 at the at the, you know, at the kind of the beginning of everything. You lose some of

00:39:30.940 the great ones right out of the box. Or because I'm not just sitting there arguing for rebels.

00:39:39.060 General Philip Kearney, who died second Manassas, one of the greats, an incredible individual,

00:39:45.100 credible, one armed. One of just the absolute greats killed. I think it's second Manassas.

00:39:50.440 Another one. You just lose them right at the beginning. And these are the types of guys you can

00:39:54.020 never you can never make up. That's Gates. Gates is out. Will he come back and be special

00:40:01.760 prosecutor? Yes. Gates is always going to be a player in this. Is he advisers to the president?

00:40:06.660 Does he go in the West Wing? Maybe that's what we do. He don't have to be confirmed. There's lots of

00:40:10.640 things to do with Gates. He's a he's tremendous value. But in the reality, in that line of work,

00:40:17.180 which AG is absolutely central, he's out and and the blood, their blood in the water and they got 0.62

00:40:24.740 to win. They got a big win. But on the on another aspect of the line of work, which is equally

00:40:32.080 important, and that is the getting together of our finances and the economy and unlocking the power

00:40:37.880 of this entrepreneurial capitalist society. It is taking on the Leviathan, because until you take on

00:40:44.780 the Leviathan and get this one, it's going to do all kind of stuff you don't want it to do, which

00:40:48.820 are bad things, many bad things like initiate and exacerbate an invasion of every country. Think 0.59

00:40:56.100 about that for a second. Initiate and exacerbate an invasion of 10 or 15 million. Are you kidding 0.96

00:41:02.920 me? Illegal aliens in this country. So the administrative state and the deep state do many, many bad 0.96

00:41:10.980 things that has to be deconstructed so that we have a limited government that

00:41:14.420 helps to maximize the potential from a capitalist society. And so that folks can get the blessings

00:41:22.840 of liberty, which is the whole radical idea that started this constitutional republic.

00:41:32.240 That's it. If this wasn't the idea, we've been part, we would have been the anchor. You had India

00:41:37.500 in the Pacific and you had the are in the Indian Ocean and are the Eurasian landmass and you had

00:41:42.540 the United States in North America. They were about the same time, roughly, the two legs to the

00:41:47.660 beginning of a massive empire, the British Empire. We opted out in the in the in the in the basically

00:41:54.360 laying the predicate stage, the kind of launch that by the revolutionary generation, the heroes

00:42:01.680 that every patriot grave, we go back to the revolution.

00:42:04.560 And because of divine providence, providential. Next April 20th, approximately, I don't know, 90 days

00:42:14.780 into Trump's second term. It's the 250th anniversary of Lexington and Concord, the shot heard around the

00:42:22.920 world. That just doesn't happen. Divine providence worked through Trump and work through you,

00:42:31.060 your agency to get us here today. And hey, it's going to be such a struggle. And today,

00:42:39.280 I hope this is a wake up call. I hope this was a bitch slap that we lost one of the greats 0.98

00:42:46.420 and he may be back, but he ain't going to be in the role that we need him as attorney general. 0.98

00:42:50.180 We lost it. But we picked up Russ Vogt.

00:42:57.180 And Russ Vogt is a organizer that can organize what Doge is going to do, what can help organize

00:43:05.320 what the appropriation is going to do. And to give President Trump a much clearer management plan

00:43:11.060 of how we lay the predicate for the management part of how we're going to unleash the vitality

00:43:18.320 of this economy and start to finance it like adults would finance. Short break, back in a moment.

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00:48:10.180 Okay, we got to hunker down. We got to hunker down. If you want to change this government,

00:48:15.040 you're going to have to get agents of change, change agents in there, agents of change.

00:48:19.840 People like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. People like Tulsi Gabbard. People like Christy Noem. People like

00:48:26.100 Kash Patel. Waiting for that one. Hope we're not disappointed. Waiting for that one. Waiting

00:48:33.940 for Treasury. Waiting for NEC. Right? You got Hegseth over defense. He's putting a good team

00:48:40.260 around him. You need change agents. Agents of change. It's not going to be easy. It's not

00:48:46.280 going to be easy. And President Trump won a sweeping victory up on Capitol Hill. And that

00:48:50.920 Senate right now, they're thinking, hey, we got him. He's abandoning these guys. They talk big.

00:48:57.820 All hat, no cattle. They come up here with their first guy, the golden boy, the guy, the gates,

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00:49:09.500 you guys? Well, we're going to have to prove we're pretty tough. I keep saying you back off of these

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00:52:11.540 Six o'clock hour. Got postal coming. A lot to go through.

00:52:14.840 Number one is hang separately or hang together.

00:52:18.780 Right? I guess it's hang together or hang separately. Appropriate way to say it.

00:52:22.140 Also about Ukraine. We got a situation over there. We got a metastasizing conflict. And

00:52:27.440 somebody better in the house better get Biden and find out what in the hell is going on here.

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Bannon's War Room - November 22, 2024

Episode 4074： Blood In The Water; We Are Linked From Patriots

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