Episode 4083： The Fear Of The MAGA Revolt; Breaking Then Restoring Faith In The Institution
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On today's show, we discuss the dismissal of the special counsel investigation into whether or not Donald Trump obstructed justice in the Russia investigation, and what that means for the future of the investigation. We also discuss what to look out for in terms of potential Supreme Court nominees.
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in terms of what to watch for next. I think we need to be watching for something that they call
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autocratic breakthrough. Autocratic breakthrough is when the party in power
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uses the power they do have in government to make sure they can never be dislodged from government.
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I'll give you a concrete example. You've already seen in the House of Representatives now that
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Mike Johnson is back in as Republican House Speaker, they changed the rules in the House
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to make it much harder to remove him as Speaker. Right? So that's them digging in, planning to stay
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for the long run. Now we're here. You're not going to be able to get us out. You've seen Trump,
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quote, joking, end quote, about expecting to stay in office for a third term once the second term is
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up. And that's, of course, against the Constitution. But he keeps repeatedly bringing up, bringing it up
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that that's his expectation. Trump advisor, his one-time campaign manager, Steve Bannon,
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saying things in public about how they're going to be ruling for 50 years. There won't be any way
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to dislodge them from power. Autocratic breakthrough is when they use the powers they've achieved through
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winning elections to cement themselves in power so they can't be removed by future elections or by
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other democratic means. So we are we are watching the efforts to consolidate power. We are watching
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for signs of autocratic breakthrough, trying to entrench themselves in power so they can't be
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removed. This is just the way these things go. This is how strong men rule. These are the things
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that they are trying. Both the classified documents case and the election interference case being dismissed
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by special counsel Jack Smith after years of building that case. What's your reaction to that news?
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Well, it's sad. You know, haven't all of us gone from depressed to sad to angry and back again over
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the last several weeks? This is kind of the whipped cream and cherry on top. But as Vaughn said in your
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earlier segment, people voted here and they were fully aware of what Donald Trump had done and the
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serious allegations against him. And the American people decided to dismiss that. And with that comes
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the dismissal of this case. I don't think anybody should be surprised. Obviously, I don't think Jack
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Smith had much choice considering what the realities are on the ground. I think number one, the justice system
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was not was not equipped to handle a defendant like Trump. I mean, he just had extraordinary resources
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just by virtue of who he is. You know, he had a big legal team by the end. He had multiple criminal
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defense attorneys. He had appellate experts who argued before the Supreme Court. He had entire teams like
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this is not the way that, you know, the justice system is set up. It's not set up to basically have
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entire like large scale teams who who can basically litigate their way through the courts. And you've
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got to remember, you know, I hear a lot about, you know, Merrick Garland could have started earlier,
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like maybe. But then there is also the case that during the criminal investigations, you know,
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Trump repeatedly litigated every executive privilege fight he could along the way. And part of the
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problem with these cases, they were so big and there were so many witnesses and there were so many
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people in the White House, you know, that had information to give to the special counsel's office that by the
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time you ended up litigating all the executive privilege already a year and a half into these
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investigations. So I think there was a combination of factors. But I also think, you know, the way
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that the justice system is currently set up and structured in this country was just fundamentally
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not equipped to deal with with someone like Donald Trump. Claire, you've been through these Senate
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confirmations. You've been through these hearings. There's an assumption when a choice sits down in
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front of you. You may not like them. You may not want to vote for them. You may disagree with their
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views or their qualifications. But there's an assumption at least they've been through a basic FBI
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background check. We've already seen what's happened to someone like Matt Gaetz, what's happened to
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someone like Pete Hegseth. We'll see what his fate ends up being. But they're just doing their own
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background checks inside the transition team and putting people up on screens for Donald Trump to look
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at and then making choices based on that. What are the implications of them just being thrown out
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there? Well, there's going to be a lot of Senate staffers that are going to be abandoning projects they've been
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working on and trying to do a much deeper dive into potential nominees that are coming before the
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Senate. But I think really what's going on here is, especially when he pulled Gates, is a recognition
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that there are some Republican senators that are not going to lay down on really outrageous nominees
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that have to be confirmed. So what Trump is going to do is he's going to try to put in people
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that are really offensive into non-confirmable positions. And as was just outlined, he's going
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to ignore the necessity for checking into their backgrounds. And that's when journalists are going
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to have to kick in. And, you know, Willie, we have some amazing journalists at MSNBC and NBC that are out
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there every day trying to find the truth of what's going on. There's a lot of networks that have good
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journalists that are working seriously to uncover the facts. I would tell everybody to pay attention
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to journalism over the next four years. Don't abandon it. Don't decide I'm going to turn everything
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off, but rather support those outlets where you see good investigative reporting going on. And there's
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a number of not-for-profits out there that do great work. ProPublica is a great example.
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They've done some amazing investigative work. I mean, the Guardian has done some good investigative
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work. So support those institutions that have people that are actually digging for the facts,
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because that's how the American people are going to know about some of these outrageous people
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that are going to populate the Trump administration.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. The Guardian's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The
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people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do
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everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish
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that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Tuesday, 26 November, the year of our Lord, 2024. You're here this morning at the home of the
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autocratic breakthrough. Aunt Claire McCaskill, Annie Claire, in her total meltdown, by the way,
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I want to play that clip of the meltdown, if my great staff can pull that. I've got,
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I noticed Aunt Claire said at the end, she didn't, she mentioned the Guardian, which we love.
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She mentioned ProPublica is not too shabby. You know, she didn't mention Jim VanderHaze rant the
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other day. Axio said that, you know, they're giving each other awards for journalism. She failed to
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mention Breitbart, Citizens Free Press, the Gateway Pundit, Revolver, Darren Beatty is going to join us
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here shortly. Rahim Kassam's National Pulse. I can go on and on and on of all the great, amazing,
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amazing sites on, let's call it the right wing in the ecosystem of media that drives the narrative
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today. I'm honored to have Matt Boyle, National Political Editor for Breitbart, and I think the
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greatest reporter of his generation. Matt, thanks for joining us. I could play that cold open. Folks,
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I hope your head's blown up because I could play that cold open multiple times today. Brother,
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give me your thoughts and observation about what you just heard. Yeah, well, first off, I heard that
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Rachel Maddow got a pay cut over there at MSNBC. I think she got a $5 million pay cut. I hereby
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volunteer if MSNBC actually wants to fix the network. I will do the job that Rachel Maddow has failed to
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do for her entire career. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, Matt. She made, I think,
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$30 million a year for one day a week. She's only there one day a week now. Now, she's the
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Brainsley operation. That $5 million, I think, would be the payroll of Breitbart for a decade.
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I mean, she's taking a $5 million cut down to $20 or $25 million for one night a week. Come on,
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Rachel. You're supposed to be a populist. Your thoughts, brother?
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Yeah, no, I'll do the job at half price. Let's put it that way. MSNBC has fun shows. You hire me
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for $12.5 million, and I will do it, and I'll do better than Rachel ever did.
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So, no, like, these people are totally ridiculous. And then Claire McCaskill there. Claire McCaskill was
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one of the most corrupt U.S. senators in history. I spent years investigating her here at Breitbart.
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In fact, the deals that she and her husband had with nursing homes in Missouri were some of the
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most corrupt stuff. The only reason she got away with and got reelected in 2012 was the Republicans
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nominated Todd Akin, who made the biggest mistake in political history when he was out there, you know,
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talking about abortion. But the point is, is that, you know, and then it took six years of fleshing that
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story out for now Senator Hawley to defeat her in a landslide in 2018. Do you want to talk about
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journalism? Let's talk about what we uncovered with her, right? Like, I mean, you know, and by the way,
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do you think that the businesses have ended with her and her husband in the nursing homes in Missouri?
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No. Like, of course, they're still doing it. But now she's an MSNBC character. These people are so
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high on their own supply. It's unbelievable. The media is in a total crisis as an industry,
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and this could be fixed extremely easily, right? Like, this is not that we're not even saying they
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need to, like, go out there and, like, you know, push conservatism or something or whatever. We're
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just that all you have to do is tell the truth, right? Like, and be honest and open with their
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audiences. And if they do that and their reporting is accurate, then guess what? They're going to fix
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themselves. Okay. But hang on, hang on, hang on. I want, yeah, I don't know if they're fixable
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because they're so in the mind, but I want to go back to Rachel Maddow because she, the reason she
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gets paid 25 million bucks a year is she's the brains of the operation on the media side. I want
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to go back to autocratic breakthrough. So everybody take out your number two pencil. We're going to have
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more nomenclature. Autocratic breakthrough. Now, she didn't complain. She's not complaining
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about FDR in the 1932 realignment, which they locked in in 36, locked in more than 40, and they
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governed essentially for 50 until Reagan came, essentially. Even Nixon didn't matter. They
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really reigned. They reigned until Reagan and then Newt Gingrich in the 80s and 90s. That was the
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realignment to the Democrat Party that really put the Republican Party of the Civil War and post-Civil
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War to bed. Matt, we've worked on this project now together, I don't know, for 10 or 15 years
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about a populist nationalist movement that had African-American participation from the working
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class, that had Hispanic participation from the working class, that went beyond race and
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went beyond gender and ethnicity and religion and really focused on economics and the people
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that made this country and really drive this country get a fair share in it. Why is she
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so, and we believe, Matt, as you know, because we've worked on this, that we will govern for 50
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years using democratic processes? Why is the left so maniacally focused on that we're autocrats? We
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just want, they put democracy on the ballot and we blow them out. What don't they get about this? And
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this is a massive political realignment, sir. Well, I think the smart ones actually do see what we're
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doing, right? Like, so I think the Rachel Maddows of the world, they get it. Like, they, and they're
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scared because they know they're about to lose and be irrelevant forever, right? Like, and the fact is,
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is that we are succeeding in this fight and it's because we're willing to challenge the Republicans
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too. They aren't willing to challenge the Democrats, okay? Like, that's the point. They can't challenge Nancy
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Pelosi, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, uh, and Val, you know, Valerie Jarrett and Rahm Emanuel and all these
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people. They, they, if they wanted to have a real populist revolution on their side, they could, but
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they're, they're unwilling to do so. And because they're unwilling to do so, uh, they're ceding the
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ground to us. You're, you're saying because, uh, because Fetterman and Roe Kahana and Sherrod Brown,
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people like that are economic nationalists and populists, but they are actually a very small part
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and a very small voice in the democratic party. Yeah, but they're not, they're not stepping up and
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challenging the authority of their party. It's, it's nonsense, right? Like, so they, they say these
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things, they say, oh, where are we stand for the workers. But then when it comes to, uh, actually
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voting, right? Like, look at Sherrod Brown's voting record. You vote a hundred percent of the time with
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the, with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, right? Like, uh, look at, uh, uh, Fetterman is the only
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interesting one, kind of, uh, on the Democrat side in that I think that, uh, you know, I don't know if
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there's enough other people that would join him, but like, Roe Khanna votes a hundred percent of the
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time with Democrat leadership and their party, right? Like, so the, at a certain point, I mean,
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look, we had really hard fights on the Republican side where we went up against John Boehner and Eric
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Cantor and Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. And I mean, look, we drove McConnell out, right? Like it took
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us 15 years to do it, but we did it right. Like now he's not the leader. And he's, and he's still not
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totally out. He's still got John Thune. Short break. Yeah. Matt, Matt Boyle, Matt Boyle's got
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breaking news over at Breitbart where you have Darren Beattie's going to join us. We're going to
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Andrews, uh, Tucker was a buddy of Andrews, Jonah Goldberg. Uh, Jonah Goldberg's mom was one of the
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founders of this. She's the one that broke the story about Clinton and the intern. Uh, everybody
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was kind of working together. Now, the, the, in the Trump years, that's kind of split. Steve and
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Jonah set up the dispatch, which is a, I think a fantastic site. I go there a lot. It's kind of the
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home, the bastion of never Trumpers, but you got to understand it. They wrote Michael, uh, Warren,
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Mike Warren over there. It's a terrific reporter has written a story, an interview by me about the
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war we've got with the establishment right now, about the rear guard action they're doing through
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John Thune to, to get rid of Gates and to fight Trump's, uh, appointments. Uh, Matt, before I get
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to your story, Matt, it's got big breaking news out of the white house on Biden. Uh, some of the people
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are going to get a little, um, Biden is sketchy and mad bull goes in how sketchy they are. But Matt,
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I get, I want to bring back this follow topic is that what the Democrats haven't had, and they've
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deferred for years and years and years is a civil war insight. And this happens in political parties
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you're seeing over in England right now with the reform party and the Tories. And you gotta,
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you gotta search for your way forward. We've been at war with the establishment, Matt for,
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I don't know, 12, 14 years, right? Kind of from the tea party days. We've had that civil war
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and guess what? Trump's populist nationalism has won. Now we haven't won everywhere because
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there's still a huge reactionary part of the donor class and the Republican establishment
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in the institutions, a lot of the media, Fox news is the bastion of the neocon, neoliberal
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neocon kind of system that runs the country, that runs the American empire. But we've given
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as good as we've gotten. And that's why president Trump has been ascendant with his message.
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I posit that the Democrats haven't had that, Matt. I mean, you know the Democrats very,
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very well. You know a lot of guys over there. They actually haven't had the bloodletting that
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you have to have in a political party. They've kind of let the credential class in. And this
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is why MSNBC has actually been a detriment to the Democratic Party and to what they're trying
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to accomplish. Because they basically played patty cake with the credential class and promoted
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them. And they forgot the populist roots. Remember, my family, I started as a Democrat. My family
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are a bunch of union Democrats, you know, Kennedy Democrats. So, Matt, what do they have to
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do to actually, and I think MSNBC is worse for them than Fox, is as bad as Fox is for
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the Republicans. MSNBC is worse for the Democrats. Matt Boyle, your thoughts?
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Yeah, no, I agree 100%. Steve, I'll tell you this. I have a lot of Democrat friends. I was
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just with a couple of them a couple weeks ago. I will tell you, they want to meet you.
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They specifically asked me this. They want to meet you and learn how we did this, right,
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like on the Republican side, so that they can do it because they know that their future
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is very dark and it's not bright for them. They might be able to get slim majorities here
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and there in the House or Senate in future elections. But they don't have, like, you know,
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a clear, visionary path forward. And I'll tell you, like, I've met Democrat activists who
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like to talk to you to figure out what happened on the Republican side so that maybe they can
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learn from it. And maybe we'll set that up at some point, right, like where we can go teach
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them how to do it. By the way, I think it would be good for the country if they go through the same
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thing that we did. And, you know, it'll take them a long time. It'll take them a decade or so
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at least. But if they go through the same thing we did and then they actually get reformed and
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start representing the working class folks again and go back to their roots and the Republicans
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do the same, you know, keep going down the right path. You know, yeah, there's still more work to
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do on the Republican side. You know, imagine if we had a space race or an arms race between the
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two parties to see who could best represent the American worker, right? Like that would be the
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best interest of the working class folks in this country. So, I mean, I think we should encourage
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it. But again, when you have the establishment media and Democrats, you know, like MSNBC and CNN
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and whatnot, just protecting them, they're never going to do it. They're never going to change their
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ways. They're never going to go through it. I think we have, I would propose something else.
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Because I think that the establishment figures are never going to be with us. They're never going to
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be populist nationalists. They are globalists. They're elitist globalists. I think we're
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going to lose part of that. I think we have a higher probability. And look, it's 100% not
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agreement, but you got Tulsi, you got Kennedy, you got other people coming up like that. And
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I realize we're not, everybody's not signing off on everybody's belief. I'm not saying that,
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but you're seeing a new 1932 coalition coming together. I think we have a higher probability
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of getting Roe Kahana with his economic patriotism, which is really just Peter Navarro's economic
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nationalism and Fetterman to align with us somehow. Then because their party's not their
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elitist part, the credentialed part of their party is not going to give up power. Just like
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the stat, you know, this, the donors of the Republican party are not just going to sit there
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and say, Oh, this is terrific. Trump's guys, the unwashed masses that Trump has brought
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to the Republican party for these victories. Let's toss the keys to them. They're not the John
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Thune, the Gates situation, and others coming through in this confirmation hearings. Because
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Chris Christie said it the other day, and Chris Christie was very perceptive on this week that
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Jonathan Karl had on Sunday. He says, Hey, the Republicans are going to get one. They're going to
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get one. They're going to, between Kennedy, Tulsi, and Hegseth, you're going to get one. Focus on that,
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and you get Gates out, you'll get one more out. And the Republican establishment should focus on
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that, and you see that happening right now. So I think, tell your buddies, I'd love to meet with
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them, but I think we've got a higher probability of picking them off to our side. Talk about this,
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this scoop that you've got in the Biden situation. Biden, the guys in the White House, between the
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war in Ukraine, what they're, the games they're playing at Treasury on the balance sheet, and what
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they're doing on the southern border, they're fighting Trump every inch of the way to make sure
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when Trump relieves the watch on 20, at noon on the 20th of January, this thing is totally screwed up.
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You've actually got even more reporting of what the, of the rats leaving the ship and what they're
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doing on the way out the door, sir. Yeah. So the gist here is, is that back during the Obama
00:23:26.800
administration, the, uh, we saw a, uh, the, them fund, uh, the federal government, uh, to the tune
00:23:33.840
of, uh, close to a billion dollars, uh, of loan guarantees and cash grants and so on and so forth.
00:23:40.640
Uh, a, a solar energy plant in Nevada, uh, it's called Crescent Dunes and this plant has had major
00:23:48.160
issues. Uh, it went offline for a year because of technical, uh, technological issues. It went into
00:23:54.240
bankruptcy, uh, and then it reopened under new ownership and only produces a part of a percentage
00:24:00.480
of what the energy that it was supposed to produce. Um, the, the issue here is, is that, uh, one of the,
00:24:07.360
uh, uh, uh, related firm, uh, that was, had, that got screwed out of tens of millions of dollars,
00:24:15.040
or so they say, uh, filed what's called a Key Tam lawsuit. A Key Tam lawsuit is where a private entity,
00:24:20.560
uh, sues the, uh, uh, other places, uh, to recoup losses that the taxpayers, uh, uh, got on, uh, on
00:24:28.560
behalf of the federal government, and the, at no cost to the taxpayers, uh, and the Justice Department
00:24:33.840
had greenlit this, uh, about halfway through the Biden administration, uh, and then all of a sudden,
00:24:39.680
on election night, uh, they pulled the carpet out from under it, and, uh, at 5.20 PM Eastern time,
00:24:48.080
on, uh, on election night. A Justice Department lawyer emails the plaintiffs for this Key Tam lawsuit,
00:24:54.480
uh, saying that, uh, they were gonna move to dismiss it, uh, a complete shocking reversal,
00:25:00.800
uh, which, uh, amounts to an effort to cover up the, the, the, the, the, what, what is essentially a
00:25:09.600
theft of hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer dollars, uh, in the, uh, cash grants that were
00:25:15.920
granted to back during the Obama administration. Uh, so the Biden and Justice Department on election
00:25:20.800
night is doing this. And I don't think they're more, they're so much concerned about this plant
00:25:25.200
and what may come out about this one. They're more concerned about the broader green energy agenda,
00:25:31.360
uh, because just a couple months ago, the Biden, uh, uh, Interior Department announced a massive
00:25:38.320
expansion in dozens of Western states, millions of federal land acres of plans for future
00:25:45.600
solar energy projects like this one. Uh, so the green energy agenda is on display here,
00:25:51.120
and they were letting it go forward when they thought they were controlling government and they
00:25:55.360
wouldn't, uh, it wouldn't lead to problems for them, but they're, they undercut the effort as
00:26:00.560
soon as they see Trump coming in because they're afraid that their future projects are at risk.
00:26:07.440
Are they trying to bail out, is this like Obama and the green and Gore and these guys,
00:26:11.200
are they trying to bail out their venture capital buddies or is this something they're trying to
00:26:15.360
lay in policy and, and, and, and green and energy that by that Trump can't reverse? What is it? What,
00:26:22.400
what is it more? It's similar. It's, it's similar to Solyndra in that the there's an obsession from
00:26:28.720
the radical left with this solar and wind energy and these so-called renewables, uh, for which the
00:26:35.360
technology isn't just not there yet, right? Like we know the technology doesn't to the, to the point
00:26:41.680
where it does with regard to fossil fuels. And so what they're trying to do is they are, um, they're,
00:26:48.560
they're, they're, they're aggressively pushing that agenda. And, and frankly, they, they will,
00:26:53.520
they will, uh, do anything they can and to throw as much money at that as they possibly can. Uh, and so,
00:27:00.960
yeah, they're making lots of money on it and there's lots of different people that are bilking
00:27:05.040
the taxpayers basically out of it. Uh, but at the same time, it's the obsession with the radical
00:27:09.760
left's energy vision on us. But the, the, the key thing here is that they literally are covering this
00:27:15.360
up on election night, right? Like, so literally as they find out Kamala Harris has lost the election,
00:27:21.360
like they knew at 5 20 PM Eastern that they lost the election because they have the polls and the exit
00:27:27.200
polls showed she was going to lose. So they know she lost the election. And then what's their first
00:27:32.160
move? Protect the green energy, right? Like, because they know that they're going to have to ride out
00:27:37.200
Trump to, you know, in his second term, their hope is they get the white house back in 2028.
00:27:42.960
And then they just start up the green energy nonsense right again, right after that writer,
00:27:48.640
writer die. Uh, Matt, uh, where do people go to get your writing? So you have about 30 seconds,
00:27:53.280
just go to Breitbart.com. I'm also on X Twitter at mboil one and on true social at real Matt Boyle.
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Brother, we'd love you. We're going to have you back on and do a reprise on, um,
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Claire McCaskill. We'll do aunt Claire sometime, maybe next week, just a reprise of your grave
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reporting of her corruption. Matt Boyle. We love you, brother. Have a great Thanksgiving.
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The justice system was not, uh, was not equipped to handle a defendant like Trump. I mean, he just had
00:29:33.840
extraordinary resources just by virtue of who he is. You know, he had a big legal team by the end.
00:29:38.880
He had multiple criminal defense attorneys. He had, uh, appellate experts who argued before the
00:29:43.760
Supreme court. He had entire teams. Like this is not the way that, you know, the justice system is set up.
00:29:49.440
It's not set up to basically have entire like large scale teams who, who, who can basically
00:29:54.560
legate their way through the courts. And you've got to remember, you know, I hear a lot about,
00:29:58.640
you know, Merrick Garland could have started earlier, like maybe, but then there is also the case that
00:30:03.840
during the criminal investigations, you know, Trump repeatedly litigated every executive privilege fight
00:30:09.440
he could. Right there. Hugo Lowell is one of the smartest reporters out there. He's with the Guardian.
00:30:14.960
That is one of the most important statements that we've said that a justice system, quote unquote,
00:30:21.520
is not set up for a defendant like Trump. As Mike Cernovich says all the time, it's not about whether
00:30:27.440
you're going to, it's about when the state rolls on you, you're done. This is why we have a thousand
00:30:31.760
J6 folks in prison. This is why Tina Peters is rotten in prison. This is why they send, they can crush
00:30:40.400
you and they will crush you. It's not about justice. They weren't set up for Trump because Trump could fight
00:30:44.720
back. Trump had the resources and the savvy and Boris Epstein and others that could architect it. And he was
00:30:51.840
relentless. You want to autocratic breakthrough? Rachel Maddow, suck on this. We're going to dismantle
00:31:00.400
that quote unquote justice system. That's the justice system Stalin had in the 1930s. That's the justice system
00:31:07.120
that the Nazis put in place. That is not a justice system for a free people. You want an autocratic
00:31:13.200
breakthrough? We're going to burn down main justice and put these people in prison because they're
00:31:18.960
criminals. Hugo Lowe right there just told you, Beattie, this is the beating heart of this. Unless we
00:31:26.800
take this, not just defeating them and President Trump defeating them, they must be professionally eradicated,
00:31:34.320
sir. Well, I completely agree. And look, I've been on this show many times to maintain that in my view
00:31:42.720
and in the view of many others for, you know, a lot of justification, Department of Justice is the key
00:31:49.840
item. The Department of Justice is the first most important precondition to cleaning out the swamp
00:31:57.280
entirely. And it's something that, unlike our corrupted intelligence agencies, cuts closer to
00:32:04.320
the core of our self-conception as Americans because we think of ourselves as a nation governed by the
00:32:09.680
rule of law. And when that very concept is perverted, corrupted, weaponized the fashion that it has been
00:32:17.680
through Biden, but really going back to Obama, that's when we start to think of ourselves again with
00:32:24.160
sad justification as a banana republic. And so I think a lot of these terminology, like
00:32:31.040
retribution, all of these kinds of things, that's very valid. And there is a very valid sense of
00:32:37.760
indignation. But in a broader sense, what this is, it's not simply about retribution, what it is about
00:32:45.100
setting the conditions to restore legitimacy within our institutions. If we have people who think of their
00:32:52.900
institutions rightly as corrupt and criminal, we cannot be a successful country into the end of
00:33:01.140
the century. If we want to look in the long term and set our country aright, part of that process is
00:33:08.100
restoring legitimacy and faith in our institutions, including justice. And in order to do that, you have
00:33:14.500
to air out the crimes and you have to punish the criminals.
00:33:21.700
You and I are locked, welded at the hip on this, that there's going to be a lot of people,
00:33:27.220
particularly the establishment, and this is the reason the country's in the shape it is,
00:33:30.660
because the Republican establishment won plenty of elections, but wouldn't cut to the heart of the
00:33:34.580
problem. There are going to be a lot of people in President Trump's ears saying,
00:33:37.700
hey, you won, let's just have a unity moment, let's have a group hug, let's sing kumbaya,
00:33:43.300
let bygones be bygones. That is exactly what we don't need to do. Would you agree with that, Darren?
00:33:52.260
I would agree with that. And again, it's one of these things, it's not really a process of anger. I mean,
00:33:58.260
I think the general public is very angry and they're entirely right to be so, but the mechanism here,
00:34:05.780
the purpose is not to assuage our emotional indignation. The purpose is a necessary step
00:34:13.860
toward restoring faith and legitimacy and functionality into our institutions. It's not,
00:34:22.100
if it turns out we don't go after some of the most egregious criminals here, that's not a gesture
00:34:29.940
of mercy. That's not a gesture of being nice. That in itself would be an offense against these
00:34:36.180
institutions, because in order for them to be reestablished as legitimate, there has to be
00:34:43.060
at least some degree of accountability for the most egregious offenders. Otherwise,
00:34:49.300
everyone's going to think of these institutions as not only a joke, which they have become,
00:34:54.340
but a corrupt, malicious, pernicious, poisonous joke of the sort that we typically see in the third world.
00:35:04.980
Let's play the, I want to play the Rachel Maddow. I want to play the, for Darren,
00:35:08.500
the autocratic breakthrough so Darren Beattie can chew on this. Honestly, in terms of what to watch for
00:35:14.260
next, I think we need to be watching for something that they call autocratic breakthrough.
00:35:19.300
Autocratic breakthrough is when the party in power uses the power they do have in government
00:35:25.780
to make sure they can never be dislodged from government. I'll give you a concrete example.
00:35:31.300
You've already seen in the House of Representatives, now that Mike Johnson is back in as Republican House
00:35:36.180
Speaker, they changed the rules in the House to make it much harder to remove him as Speaker.
00:35:42.740
Right? So that's them digging in, planning to stay for the long run. Now we're here,
00:35:47.380
you're not going to be able to get us out. You've seen Trump, quote, joking, end quote,
00:35:51.860
about expecting to stay in office for a third term once the second term is up. And that's,
00:35:58.740
of course, against the Constitution. But he keeps repeatedly bringing up, bringing it up,
00:36:02.660
that that's his expectation. Trump advisor, his one-time campaign manager, Steve Bannon,
00:36:10.260
saying things in public about how they're going to be ruling for 50 years. There won't be any way to
00:36:16.660
dislodge them from power. Autocratic breakthrough is when they use the powers they've achieved through
00:36:22.260
winning elections to cement themselves in power so they can't be removed by future elections or by
00:36:27.700
other democratic means. So we are watching the efforts to consolidate power. We are watching four
00:36:34.580
signs of autocratic breakthrough, trying to entrench themselves in power so they can't be removed.
00:36:40.180
This is just the way these things go. This is how strong men rule. These are the things that they
00:36:46.180
Okay. They had a realignment in 1932 around FDR that they tried to lock in by packing the courts
00:36:53.860
in the mid-1930s that were shut down, but they realigned with political power.
00:36:59.380
Darren, this is just what we're doing. This populist, nationalist,
00:37:02.580
America first movement is we're winning votes and winning elections. That's the realignment.
00:37:07.300
But why does she go back to saying, look for an autocratic breakthrough, sir?
00:37:14.020
Well, a number of things on that. First, just to get a sense of how utterly detached from reality,
00:37:19.700
Mike Johnson is their example of autocratic breakthrough. Mike Johnson, that's your autocrat,
00:37:27.700
Rachel. It's ludicrous. It's just the dumbest thing I ever heard. I didn't realize it would be
00:37:35.460
that dumb before you played it for me. But some other context there, the term breakthrough itself,
00:37:42.420
this is borrowed from the terminology of color revolutions from that whole world. In fact,
00:37:48.500
the preferred euphemism at least as of like a year ago for color revolution, because remember,
00:37:54.180
we started talking about it. And one of their organizations did a very detailed
00:37:59.620
mapping of the trajectory of the color revolution narrative, beginning with Revolver News and War
00:38:04.900
Room and all the way into the broader media sphere and the broader national conversation.
00:38:10.020
Election Integrity Partnership did this. It was one of the groups funded by
00:38:15.780
all of these censorship organizations and NGO censorship groups. They did a detailed study
00:38:21.140
precisely of the evolution of this narrative, and it's been lectured upon in universities and such,
00:38:26.260
which is kind of interesting. But part of the vernacular jargon of this world is to refer to
00:38:33.220
color revolutions as democratic breakthroughs. And things going in the opposite direction is
00:38:40.820
democrat backsliding. So this is an evolution of that terminology from that world and from that
00:38:47.620
orientation. Well, let's attach authoritarian breakthrough to what people wanting to win
00:38:54.500
elections. I mean, it's even more ridiculous because here we have the popular vote and nobody
00:38:58.500
really disputes that. I mean, that's, I think, why the left is so fundamentally demoralized is they
00:39:05.300
can't hang it up. Like in 2016, they could say, oh, it was just a few people. Oh, maybe, you know,
00:39:10.740
the Russians paid a pittance for, you know, ads somewhere on Facebook that compared to the,
00:39:16.260
you know, the rest of the media were trivial, but we can, the victory was marginal enough that we can
00:39:21.780
attribute it to some kind of outside nefarious force. There's no excuse here. Resounding victory
00:39:28.740
in the popular vote, resounding victory in the electoral vote. We got, you know, both houses. And so
00:39:34.100
what are they going to do with that? I mean, this is a kind of cheap and poor excuse. And they say, oh,
00:39:39.860
the purpose of authoritarian breakthrough is to remain in government. Well, if you do it through
00:39:45.620
the electoral process, I don't see what the objection to that, but in it, there's another
00:39:50.580
layer to this, which is that the Democrats and the left and, you know, whatever you want to call
00:39:56.820
them, the globalists, the deep states, whatever, they do have permanent government and they have it
00:40:02.900
by virtue of being entrenched within the bureaucracies. So they have achieved the very
00:40:09.460
thing that they're saying we should achieve. And absolutely, we have every interest if we're smart
00:40:15.540
enough and focused enough. Focus is really important, by the way. We can lose this whole thing if we don't
00:40:22.500
have focus and we're just kind of dilly-dallying here and there. You have to be very focused and
00:40:27.860
precise, I think, to have any kind of, like, indefinite, sustainable, consolidated gains from
00:40:36.100
this that don't just disappear into thin air after a year or two or even after the four years of the
00:40:41.380
term. But we have every interest, of course, in reforming the bureaucracies with our own people.
00:40:50.020
I mean, it's critical because you look at the Senate confirmation process. If you don't have
00:40:56.260
Senate confirmed, there's so much like the default is the bureaucracy. And so we're seeing this blockage,
00:41:02.980
whereas in the Democrat side, if they don't get a confirmation, the default from there, which,
00:41:09.540
by the way, they usually get because the Republican senators are more inclined to vote for Merrick Garland
00:41:14.900
than they are for somebody like Matt Gaetz, which tells you a lot about them. But in the rare occasion
00:41:20.580
that the Republican Senate won't approve a Democrat, someone that the Democrat president
00:41:27.300
wants, it'll just default into the bureaucracy and they get what they want anyway. So there's just such
00:41:33.300
a profound home court advantage in government to the Democrats having the bureaucracies themselves as
00:41:42.100
one of their key client classes. So you want to call that an authoritarian breakthrough? That's
00:41:48.740
just them playing the game, the long game. They played it well and we're playing catch up. But we
00:41:54.020
absolutely should focus on that and address that in this narrow space of action that we have. And it's a
00:42:01.380
very narrow space. Darren, revolvers at the cutting edge of this fight against the administrative and
00:42:09.460
deep state. Where do people go to get you social media? Where do they go to the site?
00:42:15.140
Revolver.news. We're on everything developing and also, more significantly, the main things that will
00:42:22.100
remain significant for years to come. The cutting edge, revolver.news. Revolver.news. I'm on
00:42:36.580
Darren Beattie, revolver is the tip of the tip of the spear. Thank you so much for carving time out
00:42:41.380
on this week to come on. Really appreciate you. Absolutely. My pleasure.
00:42:48.820
The autocratic breakthrough, Rachel, take your number two pencil out and write this down. We are
00:42:55.060
going to take the Justice Department apart brick by brick. It is a nest of vipers
00:43:02.180
that has tried to destroy this republic. Thank God in heaven it failed. The providential
00:43:08.820
return of President Trump, his moral courage to fight this. Short commercial break. We're going to
00:43:14.260
go to North Carolina and find out exactly what's going on in the Tar Heel State next in the war room.
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This year, Trump won the presidential race, but Republicans lost almost everything else in the
00:44:47.540
state. Heading into this election, North Carolina Republicans held a super majority in that state
00:44:53.940
legislature. But in this election, they lost that super majority. Democrats made enough inroads in
00:45:00.180
that state legislature this year in this election that Republicans in North Carolina no longer have
00:45:06.820
a super majority that allows them to override the veto, for example, from the governor. Republicans took
00:45:14.580
this laws of dentistry bill. They gutted it. They took out all the dentist stuff. They then decided they
00:45:20.500
would call it their hurricane relief bill. You remember all the horrible storms in Western
00:45:25.860
North Carolina right before the election. They said it would be their hurricane relief bill. But what
00:45:29.780
the bill actually does is it changes the state government in North Carolina. So all the state
00:45:36.820
government positions that are about to be held by Democrats will have their power stripped away from
00:45:41.620
them. The governor of North Carolina, for example, will no longer be allowed to appoint judges as he sees
00:45:48.340
fit under this new bill. He will literally be required in certain circumstances to appoint judges that
00:45:54.900
have been approved explicitly by the state Republican Party. The state Republican Party has to approve the
00:46:02.580
Democratic governor's judicial picks. The attorney general under this bill will not be allowed to oppose
00:46:10.500
anything that is done by the Republicans in the state legislature, even if the attorney general thinks it's
00:46:15.300
against the laws of the state. Power over the administration of elections in North Carolina would
00:46:22.260
inexplicably under this bill, it would inexplicably be moved wholesale into the office of the state
00:46:28.660
auditor. The state auditor being in charge of elections. Why would Republicans change North Carolina state law so
00:46:37.140
the state auditor is suddenly the person in charge of elections? Oh, oh, because state auditor is the
00:46:45.780
one race that Republicans won this year in North Carolina.
00:46:52.100
Okay. Michelle Morrow joins us. We've had Michelle on before. She ran a heroic race to be the education
00:47:00.500
secretary and head of education in North Carolina. Michelle, first off, people can't
00:47:06.100
there's kind of some confusion here because North Carolina is such an important swing state.
00:47:10.500
President Trump won and it was close, but it wasn't that close. And then, and we understand
00:47:16.740
the governor candidate had some issues and Mark's a good man, but there were some issues there.
00:47:22.580
The rest of you guys were, I mean, not just competitive, you put forward a team on the rest of the down
00:47:29.540
ticket. That was amazing. How did, what's happening there? Because people are saying,
00:47:33.940
hey, with the vote counted to the Western part of the state count, how did we lose everything except
00:47:38.980
for Trump essentially? Well, you know, it's a great question that you ask. And thank you so much for
00:47:44.500
having me on because this makes us question how President Trump could have won North Carolina with
00:47:50.900
the largest margin of his three victories. And we did not get the entire council of state.
00:47:56.100
I will say there is an issue with the establishment. There's an issue within the party. As I traveled
00:48:02.100
the state of North Carolina, there is divisiveness. And I'll just put this forward. The person that I
00:48:08.100
beat in my historic victory that you, during the primary, was a Republican. And now she is on the
00:48:14.900
transition team for Josh Stein, our Democratic governor. So that tells you a little bit because
00:48:21.700
during the primary there were over 30 elected officials who were endorsing her and who were
00:48:27.620
coming against me. And so we do have an issue here and it is within the party. And it's time for us to
00:48:34.180
make this party in North Carolina and I think across the entire country. It's time for us to be the gathering
00:48:39.860
of patriots rather than the grand old party. It's time for us to get on to the track of what President
00:48:46.100
Trump has won on. And that is making America great again. That is going back to constitutional
00:48:53.460
issues. That is focusing on education and a strong border and economic prosperity here in North Carolina
00:49:02.100
and around this country. And so I say this, I think this is, I'm excited because I think this is a great
00:49:09.460
day in America. We have an incredible opportunity. President Trump is about to take back the reins,
00:49:14.580
and he is going to give power back to the people. And it is up to us, the patriotic Americans,
00:49:20.100
to fight for him and for this agenda. And that's what I intend to do. They dumped $8 million into a
00:49:27.620
smear campaign against me. And has that ever happened? Have you ever heard of a superintendent's
00:49:34.900
race being in the national news, Anderson Cooper, Rachel Maddow, everyone else? No, but it's because
00:49:40.580
when you speak truth to power, when you uncover what their intentions are, and their intentions
00:49:46.260
are to destroy our children and to lie to them and to indoctrinate them so that even the next four
00:49:52.900
years of greatness and coming back to constitutional values, that if we don't train up our children to
00:49:59.780
know the truth about history, the truth about civics, the truth about biology, and the truth of our role
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as citizens in the greatest country in the history of the world, then we will not have that 50 years
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of prosperity that you spoke of. But we can have it. And I think that what the General Assembly has just
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done, we need to remember, Josh Stein is a very dangerous person. He has an agenda. And as the
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Attorney General, he used our taxpayer money here in North Carolina to fight against a voter ID bill that
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the majority of North Carolina voters voted for back in 2012. We fought for 12 years to get voter ID
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after we wanted it to be a constitutional amendment. That is who he is. He has used our money to fight
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against the legislature. So I think it is brilliant that the super majority in North Carolina, before
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they leave for Christmas, they are taking back the reins of the judiciary. And why would we not want our
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elections to be under the auditor? Has anybody understand what the meaning of an audit is? When
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we talk about auditing elections, don't we want to have election integrity in North Carolina and
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throughout the country? It's brilliant, because we've already seen Josh Stein, and he has fought against
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election integrity. So why would they sit back and allow him to be the one to name the people on the
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board of elections for the state of North Carolina? They are being responsible, they are being responsive
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to the people of North Carolina. And we have, we also what they did is, which is amazing,
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is they took away schools. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I'm gonna hold you through the
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