Bannon's War Room - December 04, 2024


Episode 4102: Their Sights Will Be Set On The Next Man Up Kash Patel


Episode Stats

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56 minutes

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163.69916

Word Count

9,243

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782

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary

In this episode of the podcast, I sit down with journalist Jack Posobiec to discuss his new book, How to Smash Communism: A Guide to Defeating the Communist Regime, and why we need to play to the edge of the field in order to counter the Trump administration.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 you think about the cost-benefit analysis here? Well, of course it worries me. It has to. It has
00:00:07.760 to worry any sensible thinking person to argue for breaching norms that have guided our country
00:00:16.080 for 250 years. On the other hand, I don't think that democratic self-restraint is what is going
00:00:22.380 to stop Trump from acting. Back in 2017, I thought that Trump was an aberration, an unusual and
00:00:31.280 black swan, if you will. And my thought was that you had to defend the norms of the rule of law,
00:00:40.320 good governance. And the only way to do that was to maintain them even in the face of his
00:00:45.820 aberrational behavior. Today, I think we know that Trump is not an aberration. He's a phenomenon.
00:00:54.340 He's a movement. And as such, what we have to do is recalibrate how we respond to that.
00:01:01.660 And it now strikes me as essential to at least begin to play to the edge of the field,
00:01:09.620 to go as far as the law permits in combating the authoritarian excesses of Trump. And the way I
00:01:19.400 wrote about in The Atlantic is the pardon power. A pardon for Hunter Biden, a pardon for Trump's
00:01:28.060 critics would be completely normative breaking. And it would be out of character, out of historical
00:01:36.060 tradition. But at this point, I was listening to your earlier broadcast. You were talking about
00:01:44.080 Kash Patel. He's got a list of 60 people he wants to prosecute. That's a real list. Will he do all of
00:01:51.100 them? I don't know. Will there be resistance at the FBI? Probably. But one of the realities of being
00:01:58.760 investigated is that investigation has a cost, even if you're not prosecuted in the end. You have to
00:02:06.040 hire a lawyer, the mental cost, the time, the resources. And so it strikes me as perfectly
00:02:12.920 reasonable to ask, what can President Biden do within the bounds of law, even if it would not be
00:02:18.320 normatively traditional, to save his allies from that? And the answer is obviously pardon them.
00:02:25.320 But for two years, the Democrats had a majority in both houses. And instead of doing
00:02:32.920 transgressive normative things like changing the electoral rules to prevent Trump's
00:02:41.080 cheating, they did normal democratic things. They passed the Inflation Reduction Act and the
00:02:48.160 Bipartisan Infrastructure Act and all good things, I'm sure, from their perspective. But they thought
00:02:55.160 that that would be how to reclaim America. And it turned out they were wrong.
00:03:01.640 This is why we quote, and we go to the Atlantic magazine. If you're not deep into MSNBC, if you're
00:03:08.760 not deep into the Atlantic magazine, if you're not deep into some of these journals, you have no earthy
00:03:14.600 idea of what they're doing. This is why for you to watch Fox is just a waste of time. It is,
00:03:20.760 I hate to say it, just a waste of time. What was said right there
00:03:27.400 cuts to the heart of what this fight is. He's saying, and here's Kash Patel's listeners right
00:03:34.360 here, members of the executive branch, Deep State, right in the book. And go to warroomfilms.com.
00:03:40.520 We made a film of this. The reason I made a film, as great as this book is, Government Gangsters,
00:03:46.360 it's not going to be accessible to everybody because it's quite technical.
00:03:51.800 So I made a film about it to try and make it more accessible. But Jack Posobiec, I mean,
00:03:58.600 this is a heavyweight guy. And he's sitting there going, look, we have to be an edge player.
00:04:06.760 That this Trump phenomenon must be stopped. It must be stopped. And if we have to go to
00:04:12.520 extra legal methods, maybe we have to, but at least we got to go to the edge of what they
00:04:17.640 consider the rule of law. And you've seen what that's been, you've seen the lawlessness that's
00:04:21.080 been for the last four years, but he's sending out a flare. This must be stopped and it must be stopped
00:04:28.680 now. Folks, we're not living in normal political times. And please don't believe for a second that the
00:04:37.000 victory that we got many more votes in every demographic, everywhere across the country,
00:04:42.600 and won 3,000 of the 3,200 counties and on and on and on and on. It doesn't matter to them.
00:04:49.560 They have now gone to DEFCON 1, maybe DEFCON 2, but very close to DEFCON 1. Posobiec,
00:04:56.600 does he not lay out what the battle is right there, sir?
00:04:59.560 Well, Steve, it's very clear. And we wrote the book this summer about communism and how to smash
00:05:07.400 communism, how to end these types of fights. You wrote the forward to it, went on to become
00:05:11.720 a New York Times bestseller. And the point of Unhumans was this, is that they will not stop
00:05:19.480 until they are stopped. This is the same playbook, the same communist regime change within a country,
00:05:26.760 disrupt, destabilize, infiltrate, and then usurp the power of the people of a country. The same
00:05:33.320 type of movement that we've seen for 200 plus years around the world. We've seen it back to
00:05:40.120 Russia. We saw it to Spain. We saw it in the French Revolution, on and on and on. These things are only
00:05:46.520 stopped and the players are only stopped when they are directly stopped themselves. You think they're
00:05:52.920 going to sit back and accept the results of an election that didn't go their way? You think
00:05:57.800 they're going to sit back and say, oh, well, I got, you know, good try, but you know, I guess you got us.
00:06:02.760 And you know, we'll just, yeah, better luck next time and hope we get there. No, absolutely not. They
00:06:07.800 are going to try to find any way to stop the Trump agenda, to stop the mag movement. And let me just say
00:06:12.920 one thing that might get a little bit, a little bit spicy here in the war room this morning, but that's
00:06:19.160 okay. Cause it is the war room. Donald Trump's movement is not the phenomenon. The phenomenon,
00:06:26.680 which was always fake was Barack Obama's movement in 2008, which was already start a coalition that
00:06:35.240 was already starting to fall apart by 2012. And at this point has been completely smashed because it
00:06:41.160 was a false media creation. It was a fabrication. The coalition never made any sense. It was always
00:06:48.120 held together by this mythology around Barack Obama that was propped up by the corporate media.
00:06:53.320 But what Donald Trump has put together is not a phenomenon. It is a realignment. It is a
00:06:59.640 generational realignment in American politics. You're seeing demographics that nobody thought
00:07:06.200 would be able to be put together. They've been put together. By the way, Donald Trump won white
00:07:12.040 suburban women, a group that everybody said was a complete, uh, you know, completely out of range
00:07:18.280 for him. It was never going to happen. He won that group. He bring brings over the blacks,
00:07:22.440 brings over Hispanics, brings over. So the Rio Grande Valley turns ruby red under him. These blue
00:07:28.360 states that have these massive swings to the right places like New Jersey, New Mexico, New York with
00:07:33.240 these massive swings that no one ever saw coming other than, shall I say, Donald Trump and people like
00:07:39.000 Stephen K Bannon. This is a realignment folks that if the Republican party just wants to step up and
00:07:46.040 actually support it, if they actually, Steve, I've never seen a group of people who were so opposed
00:07:52.920 to actually accepting victory. It's right there in front of you. Just get behind the agenda and say
00:07:59.320 this to the Republican senators and the rest and you will have it. But the victory is not about the
00:08:04.680 apparatus they want to save. They are neoliberal neocons. They like the, the victory was not their
00:08:11.160 victory. It's not, they're not populous. Let's go to what you just told me in the break. What is
00:08:16.600 Kramer? And Hey, do you get any more populous? Northern planes get any more populous? This is
00:08:23.080 where William Jennings, Brian, and everybody had the South Dakota, North Dakota. Kramer's one of the
00:08:27.720 worst. Tell me what he's just saying right now, sir. The signal he's sending out.
00:08:31.000 So, so Kevin Kramer is up there now and he's got, and I just put this up on my ex and everybody,
00:08:37.400 you know, that's where I always put my breaking that he's up there now. The center of North Dakota,
00:08:41.880 just reelected by the way, just reelected a couple of what a month ago, about one month ago today.
00:08:47.800 And he's saying that, Oh, well, you know, if Pete Hegseth doesn't get in, I think there's lots of
00:08:53.640 lot. I have lots of friends who would like that job. And you know, I think Joni Ernst would,
00:09:01.080 would be great. She would be easy to confirm. And if she wanted it, she'd be my first pick.
00:09:07.520 And I'm confused, Kevin Kramer, because I just heard president Trump said that he called Pete
00:09:13.480 Hegseth and we should all keep fighting for Pete Hegseth. So that's what the people's president just put
00:09:19.980 out this morning. And now you're out here saying that we shouldn't keep fighting for Pete Hegseth.
00:09:25.540 And I'm just very confused why Doug Burgum's good friend, Kevin Kramer would be out there saying that
00:09:32.220 we should drop Pete Hegseth when president Trump just said the opposite.
00:09:38.720 Let's talk about, I want to talk about also Pete drawn fire for cash. Talk to me about cash. Now cash is
00:09:44.800 getting some traction, but they're going to pivot and turn on cash because there's no chance. They
00:09:50.100 just, they, they're just going to turn the FBI over to cash, but tell, okay, not going to have,
00:09:55.560 not without a fight, not without a throw down cash is only off the front page or he's only out of the
00:10:00.540 a block because they sniff blood with, they believe Hegseth in extremis, right? And Linsky one-on-one,
00:10:08.740 they're going to keep calling him from the herd and going for the kill shot. But talk to me about the
00:10:13.840 next guy and next, the next man up cash Patel brother. Look, you, you divide, you isolate,
00:10:20.040 you attack, you divide, you isolate attack. That's basic Alinsky tactics. You saw them do it
00:10:25.660 with Matt Gates that gave them the taste for blood. Now it's Pete Hegseth turn into barrel. And if you
00:10:31.480 keep feeding nominees, and if you keep feeding individuals to this alligator, to this buzzsaw,
00:10:39.160 to these swamp creatures, then guess what? They're just going to keep feeding and they're just going
00:10:44.480 to keep going. You're not going to be able to stop things this way because you're on the hamster wheel
00:10:50.740 and it's not going to keep going. What you have to do is you've got to take your two by fours and
00:10:56.980 everything else that you have and jam it into the wheels, jam it into the cogs of the machine and stop
00:11:03.720 the machine from coming in the first place. The sawdust, the two by fours, everything you can,
00:11:09.040 the MAGA movement itself, jam the entire thing up and sitting up there saying, Oh,
00:11:13.960 Joni Ernst going to, I didn't hear president Trump nominate Joni Ernst. I heard him nominate
00:11:17.840 secretary, uh, select Pete Hegseth and Pete Hegseth would be fantastic for that job. That's why
00:11:25.600 they're fighting him so hard. Look, he sat up there at Fox news for all those years and nobody had any
00:11:29.500 problem with him. They all, they all begged to get on Fox and friends every time anyone's going
00:11:33.640 up for reelection. Anyone time has got a book. Oh, get me on Pete. Get me on, get me on, sell my
00:11:38.380 thing, have me on, come on. And he always, he always had people on. He's one of the friendliest
00:11:42.740 guys to work with there. By the way, he's a, he's a huge fan of human events daily. He came on
00:11:47.440 the show when his book came out and he was talking about the China files and chronicles,
00:11:51.840 the revolution and everything that we did. And Pete's just a good guy. He's just a good guy.
00:11:56.980 And that's why people who are good and honest, don't go in to politics. And so look, if you feed
00:12:04.240 Pete Hegseth to the, the wolves, then guess what? Cash Patel will be next. Cash Patel is another guy.
00:12:09.900 He's a good guy. Would they, they went around. What's the conspiracy that, that, uh, the cash
00:12:14.300 Patel spread again. Oh, that the government is corrupt. That was the conspiracy. And he's got the,
00:12:18.860 and they say, oh, he, I've made a list of all of the corruption and here are the people who are
00:12:22.820 involved. And then they turn around and say, that's an enemy's list. No, it's an enemy's list.
00:12:26.000 It's a list of people that he has uncovered conducting wrongdoing when they should have
00:12:32.020 been serving the interests of the American people. There's a reason he called them government
00:12:36.860 gangsters. And that's why it has the book and war room.film is up there with the movie because
00:12:41.820 that's how they've been acting. It's completely flipped on its head. And they'll say, oh, this guy,
00:12:48.280 this guy, he's spreading crazy talk. Like the government is going after the American people.
00:12:52.340 When everybody else is sitting there saying, wait a minute, they are going after us. That's
00:12:55.900 what this entire election was about. Jack, we got to bounce, but I need one minute. You got a minute.
00:13:02.040 Talk to me about the danger, not that I disagree with what they're doing, but the danger of doing
00:13:06.740 it now before president Trump is in and fully in the saddle as commander chief, this China situation
00:13:12.500 with chips. Look, the chip situation, what they're doing, cutting it off at the same time that North
00:13:18.720 Korea has been thrown or excuse me, South Korea has been thrown into complete disagree. And you've
00:13:22.880 got the pro Beijing party now has the upper hand in South Korea. That's, that's the bottom line of
00:13:28.340 all this. I don't hear anybody saying it that the president that they are throwing out is the pro U S
00:13:34.400 pro Japan president. And the ones that are trying to take over, they are the pro China, pro North Korea,
00:13:42.000 the, the Democrat party of Seoul over there. They're the ones who want the conciliatory approach
00:13:47.600 to Pyongyang, to Beijing. This was the same thing that there was a, that the, the Guomindang down in
00:13:53.020 Taiwan was trying to do. It was an absolute coup for Beijing. And so this chips act cutting Beijing
00:13:59.840 off from chips right now. It is a provocation the same way that the long range missiles were a
00:14:05.460 provocation into Russia in the sense that you are, instead of poking the bear, now you're poking the
00:14:10.780 dragon right before Donald Trump is able to take the reins in Washington. Uh, make sure you go to,
00:14:17.380 uh, Jack, but so, but he's live here on a real America's voice at two o'clock with human events
00:14:22.360 daily. Also he's up on Twitter nonstop. He's got a telegram channel, uh, Jack, where did people go to
00:14:27.220 get you on Twitter? Cause right now the shooting part of the third world war has definitely started.
00:14:32.320 No doubt about that. Sir, where do people go? We're in the, we're in the shooting part. It's
00:14:35.620 at Jack Posobiec. Make sure you're listening to human events daily. Every day, we're going to have
00:14:39.540 all the breaking updates. We might slide into world war three before president Trump is even able to
00:14:45.100 take office. Make sure you get full access to Jack Posobiec while you got it. Never know what's
00:14:51.760 going to happen with Jack Posobiec, a very valuable young man. Short break back in a moment.
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00:16:20.440 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:16:24.980 Okay, I was going to play that cold again because I want to talk about what was said last night on
00:16:28.980 Alex Wagner's show because it's very important for folks to fully understand and come to grips with
00:16:33.480 this. But we just had amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing good news. And look, I realize sometimes I
00:16:41.700 come in and, hey, it's cloudy and, you know, it's not sunlit uplands. There's a reason for that.
00:16:47.740 And I think you've seen the benefits of that, that we had. We got to get ahead of these fights.
00:16:52.060 If we don't get ahead of these fights, you're going to absolutely lose or be tapped along.
00:16:56.240 And that's why this audience is so powerful. People know now in Washington, D.C. and, hey,
00:17:01.180 throughout the capitals of the world, from Beijing to Moscow to Tehran,
00:17:05.880 that you guys are on the cutting edge. But we do love good news. And this, I think, to me,
00:17:13.900 is some of the best news I've ever heard. From President Donald J. Trump, just sent it out.
00:17:20.820 The great Charlie Kirk has just retweeted this. This is President Trump.
00:17:25.920 I am pleased to announce that Peter Navarro, a man who was treated horribly by the deep state,
00:17:31.300 or whatever else you would like to call it, will serve as my senior counselor for trade and
00:17:37.080 manufacturing, period. That means senior counselor, that's the highest office you can give in the
00:17:44.160 White House. Senior counselor. I was senior counselor and chief strategist. Peter is senior counselor
00:17:51.040 for trade and manufacturing. Now, this is back to President Trump, and I quote,
00:17:57.580 during my first term, few were more effective or tenacious than Peter in enforcing my two sacred
00:18:03.600 rules, buy American, hire American. He helped me negotiate unfair trade deals like NAFTA,
00:18:11.720 renegotiate unfair trade deals like NAFTA and the Korean-U.S. free trade agreement, and moved
00:18:17.480 every one of my tariff and trade actions fast. The senior counselor position leverages Peter's broad
00:18:25.800 range of White House experience while harnessing his extensive policy, analytic, and media skills.
00:18:33.660 His mission will be to help successfully advance and communicate to Trump manufacturing, tariff,
00:18:41.140 and trade agendas. Peter is just not a superb Harvard-trained economist. He's a noted author of
00:18:49.560 more than a dozen best-selling books on strategic business management and unfair trade. He did a superb
00:18:55.700 job for the American people in my first term. Peter will do even better as senior counselor to
00:19:02.040 protect American workers and truly make America manufacturing great again. That's Dr. Peter
00:19:10.680 Navarro. Great news. The reality we have to deal with here is we've lost, we're losing so many
00:19:19.340 contributors, and we're happy to do it. We're actually behind the scenes, as you can imagine,
00:19:23.260 really pushing for our men and women. There will be many more announcements, and a lot more of the
00:19:29.380 team, I believe, will be going in to help President Trump, either in agencies, cabinet, you know,
00:19:35.840 over at the cabinet agencies, the departments, the cabinet departments. Some of these agencies are in
00:19:44.260 the White House or maybe even overseas. And we're very proud. We want our people, we want all of our
00:19:49.380 people, if they are prepared to make the sacrifice for their country and for the president and for
00:19:54.820 the American people, definitely to do it. Peter Navarro, a fellow inmate, because he would go to
00:20:00.680 prison rather than buckle to Nancy Pelosi. That's the kind of guy Navarro is. They don't come any
00:20:06.840 tougher, but they don't also come any wiser or any kinder. Peter's a very big-hearted guy. You wouldn't
00:20:14.220 know that by the kind of, you know, the bantam rooster fight he's got all the time. But he, Peter
00:20:22.020 Navarro always puts the American worker first. His key focus is, is this, does this make sense and
00:20:30.020 help and assist the American worker? And if we keep that as our guiding star, one of our guiding stars,
00:20:37.400 we're going to do just fine. You know, I had, I had the honor last night to talk to Trump 47 or
00:20:45.380 Club 47, Club 47 in West Palm Beach. And it is a, not simply a superb group of MAGA individuals. And
00:20:56.980 there are many, many groups throughout the country that have done a terrific job. What differentiates
00:21:03.320 the club and why I've waited to talk to them until after the victory on November 5th is that they
00:21:10.320 have stood for certain things that are, they're very, very important. Number one, when the club was
00:21:14.760 first formed back in 2018, they expected the first time, uh, to have 150 people. I think over 350 showed
00:21:21.880 up. They had more, I think they had 750 the next time they have nearly a thousand every meeting. I
00:21:27.600 believe we had 1200 over 1200 there last night. They made a decision. They put it to
00:21:33.300 a vote and said, do we want to be a Republican club or we want to be something different?
00:21:39.680 By three to one vote, people came back and said, no, we don't want to limit this just to
00:21:43.560 Republicans. We want to be broader. We want to be MAGA. We want to be more populist and more
00:21:48.620 nationalist. The implication was they foresaw what none of the pundits foresaw. Look at the guy we just
00:21:57.840 had up there. One of the, one of the smartest guys in Washington DC said at that time, he just thought
00:22:02.560 Trump was a passing summer storm, right? He thought it was an aberration, uh, not a phenomenon.
00:22:09.960 They understood all the way back in 18 before that, but that this had to be broader. It just
00:22:14.740 couldn't be the old standard stock Republicans. It had to be broader and it could be broader what
00:22:19.280 president Trump was, was talking about. You could include independence and you would get more
00:22:25.700 independence over time. They would get red pilled, but also Democrats, particularly working class and
00:22:30.820 middle-class Democrats who have a lot of common sense, but maybe because of family. I mean, I come
00:22:35.280 from a family that was all Democrats, right? Now, uh, you know, two thirds of the family or let's say
00:22:43.320 MAGA, right? One third is still hardcore Democrats.
00:22:46.920 The other thing they, they came up with is what we pride ourselves here in this show in 2021
00:22:54.740 in 20, in those dark days when president Trump just got back to Mar-a-Lago, uh, the club,
00:23:00.420 because it's in West Palm beach and it's huge and it's active and it has a tremendous, a membership
00:23:07.180 base now of 23,000 from the starts of 350. Everybody wanted to go there, including the Florida governor
00:23:15.660 who was going to make a run at president Trump. Remember back in those days, Fox news did not
00:23:20.300 have president Trump on, I think for 18 months life. Rupert Murdoch sent the memo, Rupert Murdoch's
00:23:27.520 memo, not mine. Rupert Murdoch sent the memo that said, we're going to make Trump a non-person
00:23:33.380 that was found, remember in the, in the lawsuit, we're going to make Trump a non-person.
00:23:39.020 That's what Fox was going to do. Well, club 47 said, and now as a matter of fact, we're not going to
00:23:45.180 let people running against him, come down here and use this as a platform. We want this to be
00:23:49.960 Trump based that we are locked in that this individual just had an election stolen and we're
00:23:58.160 going to have his back as we march forward to set things right. So that's part two. They never
00:24:05.280 wavered. They never faltered. They understood it was bigger than just a Republican party. They
00:24:10.400 understood it was bigger than themselves. The third, and this was a, with an assist by
00:24:16.340 president Trump and president Trump started coming back after he stepped out in late 22,
00:24:21.520 after the 22 midterms and announced he was running again for president. The, um,
00:24:28.180 president Trump said, Hey, it's called club 45. Have you thought about changing that name? Maybe it's
00:24:35.520 better to call it club 47. The psychological warfare op that, Hey, I am going to be 47.
00:24:44.200 This is not aspirational. I want to put it up there. I want the club renamed. If you would
00:24:48.680 do it in the course of the membership jumped in right away to Trump club, club 47, that not
00:24:56.520 just shows intention. It internalizes intention. And that's when you really can cut through it all
00:25:04.180 with clarity and focus and urgency. That's where the club is a lesson to all MAGA.
00:25:13.940 President William could to come to Sherman's a simple plan aggressively executed. That's the way
00:25:21.660 forward. Right now, uh, there are dark clouds that are, you know, on the horizon. And quite frankly,
00:25:31.520 in some areas of MAGA, it's raining and it's raining hard. The key in this interregnum is to
00:25:39.440 seize control of the institutions. One of, particularly as the Democrats are still on their back foot,
00:25:47.080 the first line of resistance has been Mitch McConnell in the Senate. And you're starting
00:25:54.780 to hear rumblings in the house. They think they can wait us out. They believe the old guard Republicans
00:26:04.900 in the Republican party, the car roads, everybody got it so wrong this last time. So wrong.
00:26:10.340 We're, I think worse than in 16, because in 16, we weren't as well known an entity. Now it was so
00:26:18.300 obvious, right? It was so obvious of the coalition you built, brought together. And I'm not saying for
00:26:24.500 the landslide that, that came about. Remember, I was always one focus, focus on 270, focus on 270.
00:26:31.300 Let's just get the win. We must get the win. There's no alternative. President Trump must take control.
00:26:36.340 Because of the coalition put together, because of your mass mobilization. Remember you, this audience,
00:26:43.500 you were the hoplites, you were the people in the trenches. It had a sweeping, incredible victory.
00:26:49.680 But the rear guard of the old guard of the Republican party thinks that Trump is still an aberration,
00:26:58.380 still an aberration. And they can wait him out. Jim Rickards, I want to make sure, Jim,
00:27:05.640 it's called RickardsWarRoom.com now. Jim is one of the great geopolitical thinkers and capital markets
00:27:12.820 thinkers. We're glad to, and thank God, Rickards. Rickards may go into the government too, but man,
00:27:17.420 we're going to use him while we got him. Like I said, we're so enthusiastic of, and so happy for all the
00:27:24.760 folks that have been here as contributors, been on the show, friends of the show in the last couple
00:27:29.500 of years. And man, the team that's coming from the war room or has had some association with the war
00:27:34.200 room, couldn't be better. Peter Navarro is now going to be senior counselor to the president of
00:27:40.560 the United States. That means Peter will be in the Oval Office, senior counselor for trade and
00:27:45.060 manufacturing and tariffs and trade. That's the central beating heart of President Trump's,
00:27:50.420 Trump's economic plan. Couldn't go better. Okay. We're going to take a short commercial break here.
00:27:56.400 We're going to be back. I want to talk about this third world war in a second and exactly what's going
00:28:00.980 on because it is quite some things or actions are being taken now that are really, really, really
00:28:06.540 quite disturbing. Love for President Trump to take them, but I want to make sure he doesn't get
00:28:11.080 boxed in. Short commercial break. Rickardswarroom.com. Go check it out.
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00:29:29.600 action, action, action. Think about the cost-benefit analysis here. Well,
00:29:35.060 of course it worries me. It has to. It has to worry any sensible thinking person to argue for
00:29:44.720 breaching norms that have guided our country for 250 years. On the other hand, I don't think the
00:29:51.380 democratic self-restraint is what is going to stop Trump from acting. Back in 2017, I thought that Trump
00:29:58.160 was an aberration, an unusual and black swan, if you will. And my thought was that you had to defend
00:30:08.760 the norms of the rule of law, good governance. And the only way to do that was to maintain them,
00:30:15.980 even in the face of his aberrational behavior. Today, I think we know that Trump is not an aberration.
00:30:23.820 He's a phenomenon. He's a movement. And as such, what we have to do is recalibrate how we respond to
00:30:32.440 that. And it now strikes me as essential to at least begin to play to the edge of the field,
00:30:41.380 right? To go as far as the law permits in combating the authoritarian excesses of Trump.
00:30:49.320 And the way I wrote about in The Atlantic is the pardon power. A pardon for Hunter Biden,
00:30:57.700 a pardon for Trump's critics would be completely normative breaking. And it would be out of
00:31:04.580 character, out of historical tradition. But at this point, I was listening to your earlier
00:31:12.200 broadcast. You were talking about Kash Patel. He's got a list of 60 people he wants to prosecute.
00:31:19.320 That's a real list. Will he do all of them? I don't know. Will there be resistance at the FBI?
00:31:25.600 Probably. But, you know, one of the realities of being investigated is that investigation has a
00:31:32.960 cost, even if you're not prosecuted in the end. You have to hire a lawyer, the mental cost,
00:31:39.360 the time, the resources. And so, yeah, of course, it has a cost. What do you think people have millions
00:31:46.060 of dollars at cost here? Of course it has a cost. Unfortunately, you guys have committed crimes,
00:31:52.420 a vast criminal conspiracy against President Trump and MAGA. Peter Navarro sent four months
00:31:56.960 in a correctional camp down in Miami. Four months at a guy 70-some years old.
00:32:03.240 Now he's going to be in the Oval Office. Suck on that. See right there? They're talking about mass
00:32:11.400 pardons. That's what they're talking about. They're going to pardon all these guys in advance.
00:32:16.440 And the blanket pardon he gave his son is outrageous. And I am the guy that advocated from
00:32:21.600 the first moment I walked out of federal prison. On the very first day, the Daily Mail put it up as
00:32:26.760 their lead story for a while. That Hunter Biden should be pardoned because he's not a man. He's a
00:32:31.760 boy. He's a boy. Because he's been raised by a pack of feral dogs. And he would be crushed in a
00:32:39.440 federal prison. Wouldn't survive. And that's not right. Wouldn't survive. However, what Biden did is
00:32:47.260 something very dark and very dangerous. And it goes back to Ukraine. And it goes back to what these
00:32:52.400 people have been doing now that you've got a shooting third world war. Think about it.
00:32:57.280 President Trump impeached over trying to do the investigation. The scab that gets picked in
00:33:01.920 Ukraine. A lot of ugly puss is going to run out of that. And we're going to demand and we're going
00:33:08.900 to see this thing through of exactly why it happened, how it happened, and who made it happen.
00:33:16.460 And we're going to be relentless. So you can talk about all your normative and do everything like this.
00:33:20.700 We're coming. We are coming. And we're going to use the rule of law. And we're going to use
00:33:27.620 transparency. And we're going to adjudicate. Because I can tell you what this last election
00:33:31.420 shows. The more information the American people hear, the common man, the common woman, the working
00:33:38.780 people that work every day, middle class and working class people, the more information they get,
00:33:44.060 the more revolted and repulsed that they are of the people who've been calling the shots.
00:33:50.700 And so we're committed to do this. Forrest Jung now joins me. I've asked Forrest. He was Forrest
00:33:57.580 and a team from the new federal state, of which I'm one of the co-founders. He was at the speech
00:34:03.700 last night. I want to thank you and the team for being down there. But I wanted to grab you while
00:34:07.300 you're in West Palm Beach. I'm very concerned about what the Biden administration is doing,
00:34:14.500 the chips. I agree with what's happening. I don't agree with the timing because I want President
00:34:18.780 Trump to be in the saddle. I'm also very concerned that the anti-CCP government in South Korea seems
00:34:25.700 to be on the brink. And as you and I have talked, South Korea has been deeply infiltrated by the CCP.
00:34:32.060 They see Korea as an absolute key country that they have to control. And last but not least,
00:34:38.440 is that the CCP is teetering right now on financial ruin because of gross mismanagement
00:34:44.600 of the slave labor camp that we call modern day China. Forrest, I'd like to have your thoughts on
00:34:51.100 all of that. Okay. First of all, let's talk about the chips situation, right? Because if we hear
00:34:58.060 Miles, we were talking about decoupling from CCP a long time ago. We have to decouple from CCP,
00:35:04.880 CCP cut their finance and cut their technology support. Because if you look at what they have
00:35:10.760 done after they joined WTO, they start to have this cyber theft and also espionage to steal the
00:35:19.220 intellectual properties from the Western countries. If you notice, just last month, they have this
00:35:24.620 Zhuhai aviation show, right? They are J-20, J-35A. They are drone technology. All those technologies is
00:35:34.120 from Western country. They stole the technology from Western country. And what they do with those
00:35:39.760 technology, they use this technology to threaten the Western country democracy. They use those
00:35:46.540 technology to control their own people. So this is very dangerous. Two weeks ago, President Xi
00:35:53.680 talked with the US president. They draw the four lines, red lines, right? The last one is the right
00:36:00.260 to development. Let's define what's development for them. Development for CCP is to develop their
00:36:07.300 bio-weapons, which we experienced for the past couple of years, the COVID-19, right? We talk about
00:36:13.840 that. And also the development of the jet, the drones, which they will use to attack any country,
00:36:22.400 Japan, the South Korea. And also they can develop the bio-the other balloons, which flow over US and
00:36:31.400 Taiwan. See, all those technology and also the money they have, they will use against the best country,
00:36:38.820 the democracy countries. So this is very dangerous for us. This is a waking call for all over the world.
00:36:45.860 We have to decouple from CCP because CCP weaponized their market, weaponized their trade. So a lot of,
00:36:55.240 unfortunately, a lot of Wall Street elite and also those inflation officials even collide with
00:37:03.820 CCP, work with them together to enslave Chinese people. And then when they get the money, get the
00:37:10.540 technology. They will use that against the democracy countries. And also in that four right lines,
00:37:19.540 the third one is their system and their path. What's that system? What's that path? It's a path to the
00:37:25.040 global enslavery because they already enslaved Chinese people for over 70 years. Now they want to
00:37:33.160 expand that model globally. If we don't stop them, everybody will become slave. What we have witnessed,
00:37:43.420 experienced in this country already told us that. So we have to decouple with them, decouple with CCP
00:37:51.880 technologically and also economically. Otherwise they will grow more power and more post, more
00:38:02.860 threatened to threaten to the Western country. Now they already had a plan. Yes.
00:38:10.200 How, talk to us, we've got a couple of minutes. Talk to us about the financial predicament of what
00:38:15.520 Xi, because of mismanagement and obviously the communist system doesn't work. How, how in danger is the
00:38:24.900 regime you think from the financial mismanagement? Well, they are at the edge of collapse, collapsing,
00:38:32.660 right? So if you look at the employee rate in, in China, more than two thirds of the graduate from
00:38:41.200 college, they cannot find a job. So the other countries closing down their manufacturing, closing,
00:38:47.340 closing down their, uh, their business in China. So this is very dangerous. You see a lot of, uh,
00:38:55.300 events happening in China. People hurt each other and suicide rate is up to the roof. This is so
00:39:03.960 dangerous. But of, of course, this is also, uh, danger for, for the CCP because they, they have a fear.
00:39:10.980 We talked about the night right in Zhengzhou province, more than 200,000 college students
00:39:16.200 ride a bicycle to another city, right? So they panicked. That's why they draw the four right
00:39:22.440 lines to the Western country, to the U.S. Don't touch her. But that tells us that's their weakness.
00:39:28.200 That's their fear. That's the point we need to address. That's the point we need to let the global
00:39:34.820 know, you know, that's, that's why at this stage, they are very dangerous regime. They can start the
00:39:42.760 war at any moment because they want to keep in power. They want to, you know, implying their model
00:39:49.720 in slavery model globally. So they can do, they will do anything to stay in that power, to post their,
00:39:57.100 their model globally. So they are very dangerous right now. So we have to take a measurement to stop them.
00:40:05.820 And also when we talk about, yeah. Yeah. Let me, um, talk to me about South Korea.
00:40:13.120 South Korea has been one of our best allies. I, I had the opportunity in the Navy to, to do operations
00:40:18.620 with the South Korean Navy, to, to be in South Korea many, many times, had businesses there afterwards,
00:40:24.720 just great people. It looks like since chaos, we know that the leader and the leader is not,
00:40:29.560 you know, I'm not my cup of tea, does some things sometimes I don't understand, but he's,
00:40:35.620 he was elected because anti-CCP. Uh, we know that the CCP has made a big effort to infiltrate
00:40:42.700 Japan and South Korea. What do you take of this, uh, what's happened over the last couple of days?
00:40:49.080 Yes, this is unfortunate what happens there, but we can see this is definitely, uh, CCP is behind us.
00:40:55.400 They want pro-CCP government. They want pro-CCP leadership in those countries, whether it's Taiwan,
00:41:02.860 whether it's South Korea, whether it's Japan. This is, this is their strategy. They infiltrated
00:41:08.740 those, uh, government, infiltrate those countries using their media power, using their lawfare to take
00:41:15.340 down the anti-CCP leaders and government, and then they can have their pro-CCP government to help them
00:41:23.760 to take a control in those areas. I'm glad to see Taiwan is standing strong in this position,
00:41:30.900 and also I'm glad to see the Taiwan's leadership visited Hawaii, I think, last week. So, uh, so this
00:41:37.960 is a CCP. They, they, they are infiltrated every country, including this country. We, we talk about lawfare,
00:41:43.140 we talk about propaganda. So this is what they are doing. They can use that, uh, capital, the money
00:41:49.620 they have. They can use their media influence, the propaganda to brainwash the people, to elect
00:41:56.380 the pro-CCP leader. So this is what they are doing globally, not only in South Korea or Taiwan.
00:42:06.280 That's happening actually in the U.S. So far as we've got a, we've got a bounce, but can you go,
00:42:12.720 I know you guys are putting up TV content all the time on Getter and other places. Can you, uh,
00:42:16.820 tell people where they can get, find out more about the new federal state?
00:42:20.620 Yeah, you can, uh, your audience can find us on Getter. We have NFSC Speaks, which is an English
00:42:26.940 channel. We also have NFSC TV, which is a Chinese channel. Thank you, brother. Thank you guys for
00:42:34.560 coming down for the speech last night. And we got another, we got another event we're going to hold
00:42:38.760 on Tuesday in Washington, D.C. and Forrest and the team for new federal state. We'll be there. A lot
00:42:43.960 more announcements of activities we're going to be doing with the new federal state of China in, uh,
00:42:48.780 2025. Forrest, thank you so much. Honor to have you on. Thank you for coming by the RAV studios.
00:42:55.440 Thank you so much. It's my honor to be here. Thank you so much, Steve.
00:42:58.940 Thanks brother. Um, birchgold.com. I think things are going to get a little choppy. Why are they
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00:51:50.180 Peter Navarro is now senior counselor to the president of these United States.
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00:53:02.660 I want to warn you of a huge change that could be coming to our money and our bank accounts.
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