Kash Patel has never worked for the FBI, but he does host Steve Bannon's War Room podcast where he loves to share conspiracy theories. Zach Beauchamp is a senior correspondent at Vox where he covers democracy in the far right. His latest piece is titled, I listened to hours of Trump s FBI pick on Steve Bannon s podcast. Oh boy. Express concern about the potential nomination of Kash Patel.
00:01:12.320Yeah, it's a little bit different concern with Kash Patel, and that is his threats, his outright threats, repeated threats to weaponize the FBI,
00:01:23.720to take it from an organization whose essential function is to protect America and to enforce our laws, right,
00:01:30.020to enforce our laws domestically, prevent crime, to train and support local law enforcement.
00:01:35.500That's actually a role that not a lot of Americans know the FBI does, that it provides an essential function to train and support and resource
00:01:43.260and provide intelligence to local law enforcement agencies, you know, our town sheriffs and police departments around the country.
00:01:50.480To take it from that and to turn it into an entity whose primary focus would be enacting retribution on Donald Trump's perceived enemies,
00:01:59.300that is what he has said he will do, would make us all less safe, so, you know, he, again, should not be in this role.
00:02:05.600Liberation, Willie, and why this is so delicate, because the White House counsel and a handful of senior White House aides,
00:02:13.520including Jeff Zients, the chief of staff, are having this debate right now in the West Wing,
00:02:18.540which is, do we leave these folks out in the cold and potentially expose them to Kash Patel's FBI and Donald Trump's White House
00:02:26.720for any number of charges or some kind of, you know, show trial to get a measure of revenge
00:02:35.700and at the very least make them pay six figures in legal bills to avoid such a case,
00:02:42.080or do we offer preemptively pardons to people who there's no proof they've done anything wrong whatsoever
00:02:49.460and Willie may not want a pardon in the first place?
00:02:52.560That's a real tough call, because if you don't do it and Patel and company come after some of these people
00:02:58.440and you had the chance to give them inoculation legally, that's a hell of a thing to regret.
00:03:04.220At the same time, do you want to pardon somebody like Liz Cheney or Anthony Fauci
00:03:09.240and suggest any kind of impropriety that could only add fuel to the Trump aggressors in the first place?
00:05:04.520This audience, and I really want to thank folks as I go around and talk at places like Club 47 or last night at Russ Votes Organization, Center for Renewing America.
00:05:16.760So many people come up and say, hey, look, I've been a member of the Posse since the pandemic or from the beginning of impeachment or picked it up in 2020 or after I lost all hope in 2021 or over the last couple of years or some just here recently in the run up to 2024.
00:05:35.040Whatever it is, you know that we are a platform for this populist nationalist movement.
00:05:41.620And in that, the key is the people, the war room posse, the hoplites, the cadres that we're building by providing you information and access to so many of the folks that kind of make the Trump movement go.
00:05:59.120We're here to support President Trump because President Trump is the leader of our movement and President Trump is one of the seminal figures in American history.
00:06:08.120I rank him with General Washington and Abraham Lincoln.
00:06:15.320It is an inflection point, a fourth turning, and an inflection point in American history.
00:06:21.180And he's one of the greatest leaders with all his imperfections.
00:06:24.700He's one of the greatest leaders this country's ever had.
00:06:27.520A lot of folks, you know, because they don't have a time either to read or study history, but they came after General Washington viciously.
00:06:34.120They came after him viciously when he was the commander in chief or he was the leader of the Continental Army.
00:06:48.060Lincoln ended up obviously being assassinated by John Wilkes Booth and members of the Confederate Secret Service,
00:06:55.700Confederate intelligence after the secession of, you know, the actual warfare part by the Army in Northern Virginia.
00:07:06.220And here, we have to keep the momentum.
00:07:10.260And I don't think that enough people are focused on President Trump, like the Russ Vogue thing last night, is doing what President Trump needs to do.
00:07:38.820Then he's like on a red eye to France.
00:07:43.020He's going to show that he's kind of the leader of the Judeo-Christian West by being there at the reopening of Notre Dame Cathedral, a major mark, whether you're a Catholic, whether you're a Christian or not.
00:07:56.160It's a cultural thing, even more than a religious thing for folks like Jack Posobiec and I that are Catholic, that are Roman Catholic.
00:08:04.540President Trump's taking that leadership role is incumbent upon the team around him and people like ourselves who are the people on the outside that try to drive the message to get in sync, to get in unison and to drive this message forward.
00:08:18.560I keep saying the man got shot in the head and only by the intervention of divine providence did he live or was not incapacitated for the rest of his life on earth.
00:08:32.000And then four months later won a sweeping landslide victory that we've kind of let be petered out by letting Mark Elias and Democrats steal additional House seats, but also steal other votes.
00:08:44.320So they're questioning whether he has a mandate or not.
00:08:47.780The American people have given him a mandate.
00:08:50.880Now you see they're in panic mode, but we're not driving it forward.
00:08:56.280It is time now to seize the institutions.
00:08:59.880And if people associated with President Trump don't think that the established order, both the Republicans and the Democrats, the deep state, the administrative state, the oligarchs on Wall Street, if you don't think they smell blood in the water, then you don't, your smelling function ain't work.
00:09:17.780They see that their belief, and this audience has to understand that they've blunted our force already.
00:09:25.820Their ability to grab control of the institutions in this interregnum before January 20th, which was all important, has been blunted.
00:09:35.080Now, I don't think it has totally, but we need, as General Sherman said, a simple plan aggressively executed.
00:09:44.140I'm not feeling the aggressive execution.
00:10:10.580And you get rid of those, you'll have some interesting things, and we're going to fight some good fights.
00:10:15.820But you have major disruptors because today they've even got a story.
00:10:20.180They're trying to blunt Vivek and Elon, right, saying, oh, they don't know anything about the government.
00:10:24.740This is supposedly some Trump insider or some Trump associate anonymously coming out.
00:10:30.560So they're trying to take any action that drives the deconstruction of the administrative state, right, the implementation of President Trump's policies and the takedown of the deep state.
00:10:43.640They're coming after Cash in a big way.
00:10:45.400Last night, Vox took a whole, I guess, week to review every tape, every piece of video that has ever been done in a war room with Cash Patel,
00:10:54.980including the times that he hosted for me while I was in a federal prison because of the political warfare as a political prisoner, political warfare of the Biden regime.
00:11:07.600And, Jack, now they've – now Jonathan Martin has written an incredible piece, well-reported in Politico.
00:11:14.940Jonathan's one of the top guys over there.
00:16:43.260To enforce our laws domestically, prevent crime, to train and support local law enforcement.
00:16:48.720That's actually a role that not a lot of Americans know the FBI does, that it provides an essential function to train and support
00:16:55.760and resource and provide intelligence to local law enforcement agencies, you know, our town sheriffs and police departments around the country.
00:17:03.700To take it from that and to turn it into an entity whose primary focus would be enacting retribution on Donald Trump's perceived enemies,
00:17:12.560that is what he has said he will do, would make us all less safe.
00:17:15.940So, you know, he, again, should not be.
00:18:13.220Now, Cash, we're not saying there's, and there's no target list of retribution.
00:18:18.320President Trump's retribution, he said over and over again, is the new golden age of the American renaissance that is make America great again.
00:19:13.520What has interest to me is to never allow this republic to be taken over by these globalist elites that were turning this into essentially East Germany, which the FBI was.
00:19:26.200There's people, Jack, I know you're a big believer in praying the rosary on a daily basis.
00:19:31.380There are people in prisons that, with the jackboots of the FBI, kick doors down, terrorize the kids, drag the fathers out there in federal prison today for praying the rosary outside of abortion centers.
00:20:25.200And the point of those stories is to create this Hollywood fiction that these are the agencies that are helping us and that these are the agencies that are protecting us and Jack Ryan and all these different things.
00:20:40.000Jack Ryan, by the way, one episode of which was filmed right outside the war room a couple seasons ago.
00:20:44.840We tried to get Krasinski to come on, and I remember producer Cameron ran out there.
00:20:48.560He said he didn't want to come on to war room.
00:20:49.940But when it comes down to the FBI, the actuality of the truth there is you've got people, and so many whistleblowers have come out from time and time again, that you've got people there that are throwing people away for political purposes.
00:21:05.680They are putting people behind bars with Merrick Garland, who, by the way, Merrick Garland, and let's talk about that.
00:21:11.500So Merrick Garland has unleashed this cauldron that was built during the Obama years, that Comey presided over, that Ray came out of.
00:21:21.420So Merrick Garland unleashed them on the suspecting populace.
00:21:29.280Eric Holder, the most partisan attorney general in living memory.
00:21:32.840Eric Holder, this is part of his apparatus, correct?
00:21:34.880Eric Holder and I had a little fun in Chicago earlier this year down at the DNC when I got to ask him, why was it, Eric Holder, that you and Covington Burling didn't go and vet Tim Walds?
00:21:45.940And he didn't want to answer my question.
00:21:47.540He got a little upset with Poso asking him a basic question, but hey, that's what we do around here.
00:21:52.000And I didn't exactly want to let him get away without answering my simple question.
00:21:58.200So Eric Holder became very, very upset about that.
00:22:01.460And so these individuals, what they've done—and by the way, all of those AGs, wait for it, Steve, they were confirmed by Republican senators.
00:22:13.360They said a president should get his picks.
00:22:15.380And they would sit there, and the very same ones that have problems with Kash Patel, that have problems with Pete Hegseth, that have problems with Tulsi Gabbard, problems with Bobby Kennedy, those very same ones, you go back and look at their votes.
00:24:13.340The first thing when they did the J6 investigations, the first thing they did, they would go into your phone and they would download all your contacts.
00:24:19.860They would download every single contact that was in there because they were building their lists.
00:24:55.300What the Biden administration and regime should put their pencils down right now, what they're doing in Ukraine and dragging us into the shooting part of the Third World War is bad enough.
00:25:05.600But they're sacrificing an entire generation of Ukrainian young men.
00:25:11.020The pressure they're putting on Zelensky right now to get the youth of Ukraine to the battlefield in front of the Russians is, I call it the slaughter of the innocents.
00:25:20.820You know, as you've been telling me, the dog that doesn't bark is what, Jack Posovic?
00:25:24.980Well, so the question I have is they said lower in the conscription range.
00:25:30.120And Lindsey Graham was saying we need to do this under 20.
00:25:32.980And then Blinken's out there saying we need to do it down to 18.
00:25:35.880But the dog that's not barking is where are the volunteers?
00:25:38.560Why aren't they volunteering if this is this honored fight, if this is this huge thing?
00:25:44.300Because you can go on Instagram and you can go look up and they're partying in Kiev, they're partying in Lviv.
00:25:48.780And you've got so many of them that have run out to the capitals of Europe, military-age males.
00:26:44.540I've been receiving briefings from Washington, and I've seen the real numbers.
00:26:49.400And President Trump thought, he didn't give us a number, but he said the real numbers on both sides of this thing are far higher than anyone realizes.
00:26:58.120And so many people have gone to their graves, and we need to stop it right now.
00:27:02.640So that's directly from President Trump.
00:27:04.620He's basically saying that everyone's lying about the real number of dead that have come out of the Ukraine war,
00:27:10.240which, Steve, you and I said would happen if the Bloodlands War opened up.
00:27:13.940Yep, Mersheimer said the primrose path, 1,000% correct.
00:27:19.680President Trump implied it was, I think, more than a million dead on the Ukrainian side.
00:27:23.920Jack, social media, where do people follow?
00:27:25.800You're back at 2 o'clock, right after Charlie Kirk in the war room.
00:27:30.320Jack Posobiec, 2 p.m., Human Events Daily.