Episode 4116: The Redemption Of Populism
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On today's show, we have a special guest on the show, former Vice President Joe Biden. Joe Biden is the VP nominee for the 2020 Democratic primary election, and he's got a lot of questions to answer.
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to tell you this because you've talked about it. It comes at a time when the country is deeply
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divided. And now you're going to be leading this country for the next four years. For the sake of
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unifying this country, will you concede the 2020 election and turn the page on that chapter? No.
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No. Why would I do that? But let me just tell you, when you say the country is deeply divided,
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I'm not the president. Joe Biden is the president. Hang on, stop it right there.
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Denver, I want to play, I'm going to play, I'm going to call for that again. Right there.
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What is the, it's a core requirement. Let me be blunt. It's a core requirement
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to be ultra MAGA. Trump won the 2020 election. The part of all these investigations are going to be,
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and this is why on January, on January 20th at one minute afternoon, after he takes his hand off the
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King James Bible, the order has to be given every person, every person associated that Biden appointed,
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anybody in his government, every U.S. attorney, any deputy U.S. attorney, every, um, every,
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every political appointee, all 3,000 of the, of the ones he put in there. And every one of the Senate
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confirms 4,000 immediately, immediately. And anybody else, the people are, sits on the boards of the
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Naval Academy, West Point, the Battlefield Commission. They got literally hundreds, if not thousands of
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commissions, got people on. All of them. Every freaking person associated with this criminal gang
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that are over there every night burning the midnight, or are they burning the midnight, or thinking,
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hey, how do we stay out of Syria, and how do we not make more obligations, have refugees everywhere?
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Are they, are they working around the clock to figure out, hey, how do we make sure that that app down
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there is not, is not used, they can't get more tens of thousands of folks across this border that
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Trump and these guys are going to figure out? Are they, are they thinking about how, how do we kind
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of calm things down, let Trump get in here on Ukraine? Are they doing anything on the debt and
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make sure, hey, Janet Yellen has a clean turnover with Besson, and make sure that the way they've done
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this, like old Argentina, and do it short term, and finance it short term, and, and, and get the
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balance sheet of the country upside down, that it is a good changeover? No. What they're doing over
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there in the White House, and they say this, they're leaking it themselves. They're working on
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blanket preemptive pardons. Now, turn to your constitution and look that one up. Oh, we can't
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find that. That's because it doesn't exist. Not even a concept anybody's ever heard of. A blanket
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preemptive pardon. They argue, Rudy, I was on his show, he argues, Nixon got this, I'm
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not a lawyer, I'm not a constitutional lawyer. I didn't even think that was it. A blanket
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preemptive pardon for Milley and Fauci and Liz Cheney and shifty shift. Those are categories.
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Those are just verticals. They're just a head person in a vertical to go down. That's what
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they're doing. Every, you know why? And President Trump, can we please play that again? Just
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to start. I just got to hear that. Just let it roll. She's trying to do, you know, this
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is Kristen Welker. And Kristen's a good person. You've seen Kristen Welker in your life. She's
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that, she's the kid in, you know, from kindergarten all the way to high school when you, when you
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left her, gets a straight A, everything. She comes to work every day. She's done the homework
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and more homework and done some extra homework. She's probably smarter than the teacher. And
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she's got that hand raised up there. The first, she's sitting in the front row and she's got that
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hand raised and she's answering every question. She's answering questions the teacher hadn't
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even thought of. She getting A's, A plus, you know, they got this thing now. You can't get a 4.0.
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You got a 4.9 or a 5.2. I don't even know how that works. Cause I wouldn't get in 4.0s in
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the military prep school I went to. I was not getting close to. So 4.0 was like a goal.
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Guys that get above it. That's Kristen Welker. She's a 5.2. 5.2. The only thing not exactly
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quick on the comeback with a beast like Trump. Boom. Boom. He's dropping bombs and she's trying
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to, you know, and Kristen don't, you shouldn't do this. You shouldn't do this. You don't, you don't
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try to cage a lion coming out of the box unless you get the bullwhip and you got like a, a, a
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submachine gun. And you didn't. Can I, can you commit to the American people right now
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that, you know, you're going to go there. Is that what you're going to do as you're
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free? You're going to go there right there. No, he's going to blow up. No, I am not.
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So no, you're, I'm not. He's not going to, you know why? Cause this is his third win.
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He's won three. Hey, immediately you're going to have to suck on it. Oh, they, you know,
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they're looking at this. They're debating it. They're debating it. They're going to come again.
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And this is why they're all hanging their hat. Rachel Maddow, the Jack Smith report.
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Laren's or not the Jack Smith report. Shove the Jack Smith report up with the sun. Don't shine.
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That's how much we care about it. It's going to be your superseding indictment. I guess it's not now,
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right? Sorry, not sorry. Jack Smith. Here's what you better be worrying about. Lawyer up,
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get the passport, make sure you can go and go to a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty
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It's an illegitimate regime. What did we say on the 20th of January, 2021? You got that guy over CNN,
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look at the lights on the reflecting pool, like Biden's arms embracing the nation.
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First off, he should have been fired for being a creep. Forget that he's an idiot. He should have
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been fired of being a creep. Hey, John Malone heads up why CNN is not doing so well.
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Number one, you got a lot of creeps over there and they kind of come across on TV as creeps.
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I don't think people want that in their living room every day. Just free advice. Take it what it's
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worth. John Malone, when you finally figure out why it's not working, let's get rid of the creep
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factor. Just start there before you get, and nothing's not working. The 30 people on a panel,
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everybody gets two seconds to say something of the moronic thing. Why don't you, here's a,
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here's a note. Why don't you just get two or three people that know something, that understand
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something. We don't need diversity. We don't need them all. You got everybody. You got every flavor,
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every taste, all of it. It's all meaningless. Get rid of the creeps and then get some people
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to know something. And Hey, maybe you got a shot. I don't know. Every, the, the, the theory of the case,
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go back to the railhead. 2020 was stolen. And on the 21st, we say, we, we are going,
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we have a task and a purpose. And number one, in this information war, he is illegitimate.
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Biden is illegitimate. And we will say that over and over again. We'll never call him president.
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We'll never call it administration. It's an illegitimate Biden regime. How many times
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you hear that people like 2 million, the illegitimate Biden regime?
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Now I can tell you who buys into that theory of the case. I'm going to pick a random name,
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Donald John Trump, Kristen Walker. So your interview, which is going to be shown in the
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university of Missouri and at Columbia, which are two, the kind of, you know, top schools for
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journalism as a way not to conduct an interview, particularly when he's, he's, boom, he's blowing
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you up with another bomb in your eyes. Not the best, not the best. It's an illegitimate regime
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in the proof. Their illegitimacy is what they're doing in the white house. Do we need anything else
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to show us? They're spending their time on blanket preemptive pardons. And you know who agrees with
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us is Amy Klobuchar ran for president. She may want another shot. She has beat Royce White. She's on a
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roll. She's sitting there going, you know, I'm not so sure that's the good thing. No, Amy, write this
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down. It destroys the Democratic Party. So this is a win-win. The Chinese are always talking about win-win.
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I got a win-win for you. Here's a win-win. We dare you to give the pardons. We dare you.
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Biden, get them all, get your family. In fact, on top of it, throw the pardons out for the, for the,
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for the illegal aliens, the 10 million, pardon them all. We dare you. Do it.
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Because in the very act of that, the Democrats become the Whigs, the last major party that went
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away right before the civil war, you know, who was a Whig. Hmm. Let me think. Abraham Lincoln.
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Who had kind of thought it through, right? And the, the Whigs were big on internal development and
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taking money and putting, building bridges and kind of building the country and, you know,
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believed in man, you're for all of it. Kind of anti the, the plantation class, right? Wigs went away.
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There's a buildup to the civil war and where slavery and the issues of slavery became more
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front and center and you couldn't avoid it anymore.
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The democratic party could actually cease to exist. They're sitting there right now saying,
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Oh no, we've got to be popping populism. It's all populism, populism, populism as much as a
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spiritual force as anything else. And if you don't understand that, what you don't, you just
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can't glob it on. Oh, but let's tax the rich. That's not populism. It's a part of it. It's
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Populism's about redemption. Populism is about a spiritual element of it. Pop it. Why? Because
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it gets back to the concept of sovereign will. Now, what is that? That's you. Who won the
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other day with Joni Ernst? President Trump took a step back as he often does. He wants
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to see how it plays. He wants to, he can read the room. He wants to see how this thing plays.
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Pete's got to show some resilience and his people have to speak.
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President Trump. President Trump does not have a PhD. He didn't go to Wharton to get a political
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science degree. He didn't know this mumbo jumbo. He doesn't need to know it. Doesn't want to know
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it because it's not meaningful. Sovereign will. You want to populism? A redemptive, spiritual,
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political movement that focused on the sovereign will of the American people in the American version
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of it. The American people, regardless of their race, regardless of the ethnicity,
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regardless of the gender, regardless of the religion, they have to be something. Here's
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what they got to be. Wait for it. What do you got to be? Let me think about this for a second.
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What do you got to be? An American citizen. An American citizen. And collectively, collectively,
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that sovereign will. We're independent actors. You have independent agency. You got to stand in front
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of your maker as a person. You don't have your family. You don't have your loved one. You don't
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have your wife, your husband. None of it. It's just you getting weighed and measured at the end
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on your actions, on your agency, how you use your agency. Don't give me your thoughts. Don't give me
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all your inner thing. I want to know what you did in this veil of tears. We got a book. It's called
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the Book of Life. Remember in Revelations, they got the good and the bad, and they got the Book of
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Life right there, and they're going through it. That's the agency. Listen to St. John the Evangelist.
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We finished with that song, When the Man Comes Around. It's quite powerful.
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Hell, I don't know what the Book of Revelations means. Nobody who knows what the Book of Revelations
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means. It's too deep. It's too symbolic. It's all of it. But you know what? You keep plowing
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through it. The church made a decision. We're going to end with that. Maybe you guys should
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spend some time with it. They got the Book of Life. What does the Book of Life say? The Book
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of Life says your agency. You're going to be held accountable for your agency. Divine Providence
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gave you this opportunity. What did you do with it? What did you do with it? Did you squander
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it? Did you do bad things? The sower and the seed? What did you do? Collectively, dough
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for the zeitgeist. That's the sovereign will. If the Revolution and the Civil War and World
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War II, show us anything, it shows us the purpose of this whole experiment. You don't
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need kings. Did you see? Trump shows up in Notre Dame. He's like Charlemagne. You see
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him all kakowtowing to him, all kissing the ring like the Borgias, the Medici's, right?
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And the Bourbons and all of it. The guys in England, they haven't learned anything. It's not
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in their DNA. They're going to bow down. He walks in. He's like Charlemagne. Boom. Hey,
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can I kiss the ring? That's not the American people. We love Trump. Trump is the instrumentality
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of the salvation of this nation. Full stop. He's not worshipped here. He's admired and respected
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and supported. That's because we're different than the Europeans because of what took place
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here. The good and the bad. The evil and the sublime. It's so obvious. Short break.
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Big victory on 5 November. Now the work can finally start on the big issues facing the country.
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I have to tell you this because you've talked about it. It comes at a time when the country
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is deeply divided. And now you're going to be leading this country for the next four years.
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For the sake of unifying this country, will you concede the 2020 election and turn the
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No. No. Why would I do that? But let me just tell you, when you say the country is deeply
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I can play that. I can play that a million times because it's deeply divided. We'd turn
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the page on that. No. We're never going to turn the page on that. Here's what you're going to turn
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on the page. You're going to fire everybody in this illegitimate regime. On the moment
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one, everybody, every battlefield commission, every historical society, the Smithsonian, the
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Kennedy Center, every person that was put in by this illegitimate regime, going to be shown
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the door. Shown the door. And we dare you, if you're listening, we dare you, because we know
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you are, we dare you to give a blanket preemptive pardon on these criminals. Yep. On Fauci.
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Yep. On Shifty Schiff. Yep. On Millie. Yep. On Liz. Liz had a big, long thing. Yesterday,
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she came back with President Trump. You know, President Trump said something about that,
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about J6. No. We're going to pardon all the J6 people have been in the prisons. Then they
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can get the civil suits and come after you people personally, which they have to do.
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And then we're going to go into all the J6 records on the committee. And by the way,
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it's got to be done. It's got to be adjudicated totally publicly. This has to be like Caesar's
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wife. It has to be completely 1000% public. Or it should, like, kind of like the J6 committee
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should have been run the first time with a ranking member and a, in a, in a, in a minority
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council. You get all the information you get, you get, you particularly get the, uh, you
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particularly get the, uh, do cross examinations, but there'll also be, I'm sure, I don't know.
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I'm not a lawyer, but I'm sure there'll be a couple of three, you know, investigations
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and see where that gets. Maybe a special counsel. Maybe. I think that'd be pretty cool. But Hey,
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that's all decisions guys have got to make. I'm not, I'm just sitting here in front of a
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microphone screaming like a madman, but it's, it's either, it's either legitimate or illegitimate
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either is, or it isn't. It's either one or the other. You're the inner, you're not. No,
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we're not going to turn the page. Christian Walker. No, we're not going to turn the page
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NBC. No Roberts family. We're not going to turn the page. We've already won because you
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know, MSNBC is an anchor around your neck and you're cutting it loose. That's a big victory
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in and of itself. Folks, they got no news operation over there. That thing will sink,
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sink. Particularly when Bobby Kennedy comes out and the first thing he does, but we get
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an executive order signed that none of these big farmer criminals can be putting this propaganda
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and these commercials on nonstop on MSNBC over and over and over again to prop up and to pay
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for that, repay for that evilness that comes out of there. Take a, you take the big farmer
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ads away. It's a test pattern. They can't afford to pay anybody.
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Can't afford to do it, man. They got some sick folks to watch that thing. I'm not talking
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men. I'm talking, man, they get you watch, just watch MSN. We monitor it every day in
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CNN. They got diseases. You can't even imagine. I said, is that a real thing? Then they got
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the disclaimer, which is in and of itself is worth it. You think it's a comedy routine.
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They talk about these diseases you've never heard of. And these people get broken. They
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got fingers. They get everything in their heads, the bodies, all of it. It's crazy. Crazy.
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If you don't believe in the Mahi, make America healthy again. Good Lord. Just watch MSNBC
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for a day. You'd be running. Get me, get me some organic food. No more ultra processed
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food. Give me, I just want to live on fruits and nuts. I want to be like John the Baptist.
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Put a, put a loincloth on. Let me go out in the desert somewhere because this crap is
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madness. The way these people live and the solutions from the big pharma who only try
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to do it, only try to do you good. All of them have to go. All of them. I'm not going
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to fill them all right away. President Trump and the team down there are trying to get
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them through. They got a whole group of people. They're vetting people and interviewing people
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and putting people in slots and, you know, getting the landing teams ready. I wouldn't,
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I wouldn't assign that. I wouldn't assign the deal. We made the mistake in 16. We've
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actually learned something. I wouldn't assign the deal. I wouldn't let the FBI near your
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people, not near them. No, they're not worthy. The FBI is not worthy. The FBI is not worthy.
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It should be broken apart into many subgroups. Number one, the counterintelligence part should
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go somewhere. Not the CIA should go somewhere. Counterintelligence. The counterterrorism should
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go to another place. I think he puts, he may get some savings. The law enforcement,
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I think should then be, if you need a federal investigative force, Hey, maybe you do for
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these federal crimes. You know, you've got the U S attorneys, you got a whole thing at
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the, at the just part, but look, the FBI has got 250 lawyers. They're trying to recreate
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the justice department. Hey, why don't we make it simple? Why don't we take the 250 lawyers
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and send them back to the justice department? Got it. Where the lawyers go, put them over there.
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Maybe there's only 50 seats. So you get rid of 200, but take those out of the FBI, put them
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there. And then the FBI investigators and all the fields, and maybe you put it with
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the U S attorneys. Maybe we kind of give it some critical mass. I don't know. Greater
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minds than mine are thinking up, but that's kind of a, and then guess what? You don't have
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any FBI. Think about it for a second and building the headquarters. It was the tell the headquarters
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is bigger than the Pentagon. I don't think we need that. I don't know. As my brother tells
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you, you watch every movie when the local guys are trying to solve something, the FBI
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walks in and it's always a bunch of clowns and they're stepping on people and getting
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in the way. And they're just, you know, the local guys got it. Hey, FBI, you had, you're
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all puffed up on MSNBC because you're all puffed up the other day. We're going to get this
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guy. The FBI has got him. Somebody at McDonald's ratted him out and had a couple of local, he had
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Barney Fife and his wingman went in and it saw the young guy. Boom. We saw him. We walked
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up guys eating a Big Mac, excuse me, eating a breakfast burrito. So I guess they don't
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do that at McDonald's. Not that I would know. You know, a breakfast, egg McMuffin guys
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macking on, macking down and working on an egg McMuffin. Two cops show up, no FBI, the great
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FBI. Five days. This guy could have killed 10 other people. Still his weapon. But the
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amazing FBI with the multi-billion dollar budget in the, in the, in the headquarters that's
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bigger than the Pentagon has ever struck you as odd. Do we really need this kind of, no,
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because that's the American Gestapo needs it because they need to jack boot and kick down
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the doors of all these folks. These people praying the rosary, praying the rosary. Think
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about that for a second. The guys I met in Danbury, the people I know in this life movement,
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I mean, I am not that over, I'm not that churchy, right? You know, I try to get, you know, I try
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to, you know, in this journey, you, you struggle, you try to do the right thing, but I'm not one
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of these churchy guys. These guys are super church. They are, they are holy people. Their
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whole life revolves around this. They're gonna have a lot better time. They're gonna have a lot
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easier discussion when the book of life is open. Their thing's going to go quick. Okay,
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go. You're good to go. Dude, these are holy people. These are people dedicated. They're
00:24:08.880
in prison. They're in federal prisons. Women in their seventies are federal prisons. How
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did that happen? The FBI put them there with the justice department and these radical prosecutors
00:24:18.960
and their day of judgment's going to come. We're going to out all your names. You don't
00:24:23.460
get to hide. You're all big shots. You're all tough guys until you're not. You're all tough
00:24:29.040
guys until you're not. I haven't seen a tough guy over there. We've got resilience. Did
00:24:34.500
you see Navarra run away? Did you see Cash Patel run away? Did you see Dan Scavino run
00:24:38.980
away? Do you see anybody say, this is so terrible. I've had discussion with my family that we
00:24:43.680
got to leave the country. We ain't leaving this country. This is the United States of
00:24:46.660
America. We're not going to leave this country. We're going to fight for this country. We're
00:24:50.760
going to take it back and we're going to clean up your mess. That's what we're going to
00:24:55.700
do. What are you going to do? Oh, we're going to George Clooney all in Europe. Stay in Europe.
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Sharon Stone, you know, 90% of them don't have, none of them, 90% don't have passports.
00:25:07.700
How many passports were on the guys in first wave at Normandy or a terror where I Pelleloo,
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how many passports they have? 99% answered. No, they didn't need a passport to get to Normandy.
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They went there with a rifle, a carbine in the support of the sovereign will of the American
00:25:28.840
people, the sovereign will of the American people. That is where you come in. You happen
00:25:34.940
to be the sovereign will. Two things. You're the full faith and credit of this government
00:25:40.360
and everything associated with it. It's you. It's not the Federal Reserve. It's not the Security
00:25:45.920
Exchange Commission. It's not the FTC or the FCC or another alphabet agency. It's you. It's not
00:25:54.480
Congress. It's not the Senate. It's not these clowns in the House. It's not that. It's not these
00:25:58.420
bureaucrats, the administrative state running around. It's you. You're the full faith and credit of this
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country. It's on your shoulders. You're also the sovereign will. That's the whole deal was set up
00:26:09.900
about that. The geniuses of the of the revolutionary generation understood that if we unleash
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the power and not in a pure democracy, they understood that that passions and and, you know,
00:26:26.920
dispositions and tempers sometimes kind of flow. People get a little hot.
00:26:31.480
Maybe sometimes they studied the Republic ancient Rome. Maybe sometimes it's working
00:26:37.240
looking like a mob. We got checks and balances and we can do this. We can have different houses
00:26:42.180
and they can have different terms. The perfect architecture to allow separation of powers,
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to allow checks and balances, to allow it kind of all move. Right. But all predicated upon
00:26:55.560
the sovereign will of the people. You know, I understood that. To tie this back to current
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news, Colonel Senator Joni Ernst. Smart woman. She got it. She got some beefs with Pete,
00:27:16.660
but Pete's stance on women in combat. And look, I don't totally agree with Pete on that. Don't
00:27:20.720
need to agree with Pete on that. She got some other issues about this. You know, the two systems
00:27:25.500
she wants a system for women that have been assaulted or people have been assaulted. I got
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that. I don't agree with that, her on that, but I understand her argument. But one thing
00:27:35.960
you don't have to school her on is the sovereign will of the people. She understood that.
00:27:43.840
Who else understands that? They do not think that Trump is both an instrument of divine providence
00:27:58.980
and the sovereign will of the American people. They do not get that. They fail to comprehend
00:28:04.380
that. They can't comprehend that. They still see him as some charlatan. They're about to get
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everybody in the war room posse to sign up for this. I want you all out there. We're going to be live
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00:30:58.100
better. The couple of times we've done this out in Phoenix at the end of the year have been
00:31:01.600
extraordinary. Go in the chat. You'll hear people just had an amazing time, but we're going to bring
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the whole crew out there. Charlie Kirk joins us. Charlie, what do you got for us, brother?
00:31:10.600
Yeah, we want the whole war room to be there. We have a special offer for everyone to come to
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it's a really important event for more than one reason. Number one, everyone in this audience has
00:31:23.760
earned the right to celebrate. It's been tough sledding. Steve, the war room posse was the
00:31:28.280
vanguard, was the tip of the spear to dig us out of January, February and March of 2021. You remember
00:31:33.940
those days, Steve, that those were dark, dark days. They tried to put us in exile. A lot of our
00:31:38.820
buddies and friends were being put in prison. And a lot of us went through what was the kind of the
00:31:44.740
dark night of the soul. And now here we are and spring is here and we need to celebrate it. And
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we're doing that at amfest.com. Everyone can get your tickets. And in Phoenix, Arizona, December 19,
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2021, 22, the speakers are unbelievable. We have you keynoting the first evening, Steve. Can't wait
00:32:00.740
to have you just do a total barn burner. We got Donald Trump Jr. We have Glenn Beck. We have
00:32:06.400
Patrick Bett David. We have Matt Walsh. We have Michael Knowles. We have Tom Homan, who's going
00:32:12.220
to give a special address about the largest deportation effort coming forward. That's a
00:32:17.320
big deal, by the way, to have Tom Homan come. And we have policy breakouts. And then the final
00:32:22.380
thing is this, outside of celebration and encouragement, we are still in an active cultural
00:32:27.780
battle and political battle against the left. And so what does that look like from a deployment
00:32:32.820
standpoint, from giving Trump his cabinet, from pressuring lawmakers? Matt Gaetz will
00:32:37.180
be there. Riley Gaines will be there. We have Marjorie Taylor Greene, Rob Schneider, Danica
00:32:42.160
Patrick, obviously the great Jack Posobiec, James O'Keefe, Sage Steele, Scott Pressler,
00:32:47.280
Roger Stone, Nicole Shanahan, Callie Means. And by the way, more speakers yet to be announced
00:32:53.100
momentarily, Steve. So we want the entire War Room Posse. You're going to be doing the shows
00:32:58.060
live there, Steve. I know that you love just meeting all the people, being part of the grassroots.
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It's amfest.com, A-M-F-E-S-T.com. We want everyone to show up. It's going to be the biggest
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a 25% discount on the general mission. I want everybody, we're going to have a great time.
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We're doing four hours a day. Do the good offices of Real America's Voice, Rob and Parker
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Sig and the team there. We're going to do four hours a day live. Plus, I'll be speaking.
00:33:25.940
We're going to do group things with the posse to both celebrate because it's the Christmas
00:33:30.780
season and also to focus on the coming year. Charlie, the New York Times Day has a story.
00:33:35.300
I just want your observation. It talks about Pete Hegseth and this thing hanging in the
00:33:39.580
balance last week. And this is why I want to thank Rob and Parker Sig. You had the War Room.
00:33:45.300
You had the Charlie Kirkshire ejector. So we had five hours. Then we came back seven hours
00:33:49.740
a day pounding on this thing. What are your thoughts of where we stand with Hegseth and the
00:33:53.480
importance of the audience and the community to step up here and take an active role?
00:33:59.520
I give Pete Hegseth 80 to 90% chances of now being confirmed. And a week ago, somebody told
00:34:05.420
me who was very well connected. He's on life support. That was War Room, Charlie Kirk show,
00:34:10.000
Turning Point Action, Jack Posobiec that started a grassroots pressure campaign against the individual
00:34:15.240
who was leading and is no longer leading the charge against Pete Hegseth, which was Joni Ernst.
00:34:20.320
And we were unafraid to talk about primaries, unafraid to talk about challenging. By the way,
00:34:24.820
she has now signal support for Pete Hegseth. So we will lay off and allow that to materialize,
00:34:30.820
hopefully into a Senate confirmation vote and for her to get some of the other folks that have her
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worldview in the Senate to follow. But understand to every Senate Republican out there that waivers or
00:34:40.520
go against the president's agenda, we will primary you. We said that. That's not a veiled threat.
00:34:45.300
That is not some sort of like secret agenda. We're very open about it. That goes to Mike
00:34:50.140
Rounds in South Dakota or Crapo in Idaho or Jerry Moran in Kansas or Cindy Hyde-Smith in Mississippi,
00:34:56.480
that if you stand against MAGA, you stand against the president's agenda. Why is it that that list
00:35:02.640
of people, amongst others, were very quick to conform Lloyd Austin for Joe Biden and Merrick Garland
00:35:08.520
for Joe Biden and some of them, Alejandro Mayorkas, that they are given the hardest time
00:35:13.240
for President Trump's nominees? You must give Trump his cabinet. We're going to be talking about
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that at AmFest. But it's this audience that made the noise, did the work, that turned the tide.
00:35:23.840
We are not there yet. We are not there yet. But Pete Hegseth is now in a heavily favored position
00:35:29.600
to be confirmed, thanks to this audience. Real quickly, Cash, your thoughts on Cash,
00:35:36.500
his nomination, his percentage probability of being FBI director. I give it 90 to 95 percent.
00:35:44.700
We are not seeing any sort of Senate defections. Cash is a excellent person. I was pushing for Cash
00:35:50.700
both publicly and privately. So thrilled the president made that decision. We need to see that
00:35:55.820
all the way through and make sure the U.S. senators confirm him. And I don't think he'll get any
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Democrats. But Cash might might lose one or two Republican senators. That's enough. That's enough
00:36:05.420
to get him across the finish line. Cash Patel will change the FBI to be an actual law enforcement
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agency to go after fentanyl trafficking, child sex trafficking, Chinese espionage, and no longer put
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the FBI as an intelligence network against Catholic faithful, against mom and dads at school board
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meetings. That's all going to come to an end. Cash Patel will be a phenomenal FBI director.
00:36:31.220
Charlie, one more time, where do people go right now to sign for AmFest? It's going to be a great
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gathering. It's going to be tons of fun. You're going to learn. You're going to get you're going
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to get totally fired up in position for what has to happen in the first hundred days of President
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Trump's second term. Guys, this is the time to bring your entire family. Come in the car.
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Come to America Fest. It's AmFest.com. A-M-F-E-S-T.com. There's no gathering quite like
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and like what a chance to celebrate. You guys earned this. You registered the voters. You chased
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And put War Room in there to get a 25% discount. We'll look forward to seeing you out there. We're
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going to have a great time. Charlie, thank you so much. I'll let you go get ready for the Charlie Kirk
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show. You bet. Two hours of populist nationalism every day. Michael Seifert joins us. Michael,
00:37:52.220
brother, you were on here last time talking about the company. I was teasing you. I said,
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man, you're like, I don't know, you looked like Don Jr. You're trying to look like Don
00:38:00.800
Jr. You threw out J.D. as your misdirection play. And you announced immediately after you
00:38:05.700
were off, you announced John Jr. is joining the board of directors. I didn't have any information.
00:38:11.100
I just threw it out there. You're starting to look like him. Tell me about Don Jr.
00:38:13.720
I think the stock went through the roof. Not that we followed that here in the War Room,
00:38:21.360
Yeah, Steve, I did think the timing was funny. I had to chuckle internally when you mentioned
00:38:25.400
Don Jr. last week because I couldn't say anything, but I knew we had some exciting news right around
00:38:29.900
the corner. Donald Trump Jr. has joined our board of directors at publicsquare.com. Don's been a long
00:38:36.700
friend and everybody on this show knows Don for his excellence and leadership in the world of
00:38:42.880
politics. What some people understand, but nobody fully gives the airtime to, is how wise of a
00:38:49.400
business leader he is. He's a brilliant business strategist. He's excellent at marketing. And he's
00:38:55.180
really the thought leader when you talk about small business community in the United States. In fact,
00:38:59.680
Steve, this morning, Zero Hedge just put out an article that talked about how U.S. small businesses
00:39:05.700
have experienced the most sharp jump in optimism in 44 years. And it's the best they've felt since
00:39:15.920
before Biden came into office. So American small business owners are coming back. That's been reflected
00:39:21.440
on public square. We've experienced the best week of orders we've ever had on the site. Small businesses
00:39:27.100
are getting supported again. Don Jr. is joining the board to lead the charge as the voice of American
00:39:31.620
small businesses. And things could not be better for public square right now. So we are very grateful
00:39:36.420
and we are making beards great again. So thank you for the call out.
00:39:41.360
Tell me about, he's, since I've known Don Jr., he's been a huge advocate, even before it's trendy,
00:39:46.900
of the patriot economy that we had to stop. The first thing we had to do is stop giving money to people
00:39:51.220
that hated us, that wanted to either put a woke gender in or really destroy MAGA. Walk me through
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this concept of the patriot economy because that's kind of the, that's the framing device
00:40:01.360
for public square. Yeah, that's exactly right, Steve. You know, starting about a decade ago,
00:40:07.680
we would hear from these leftist activists that cheered on cancel culture. And they would say,
00:40:14.200
if you don't like this, just build your own. These are private companies. If Apple wants to cancel you,
00:40:18.660
if Amazon wants to cancel you, or charge you exorbitant risk fees, if you're a politically motivated
00:40:24.480
business, if any of these folks wants to want to cancel you, it's a free country. They can do
00:40:29.200
what they want. You should just build your own. That was always the tagline at the end of any of
00:40:34.200
these ridiculous statements. A company would cancel a patriot, the patriot would call it out online,
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and the leftist progressive activists would say, if you don't like it, build your own.
00:40:44.620
After years of frustration, Steve, we built our own. And that's exactly what's at the heart of the
00:40:49.100
patriot economy, a desire to build solutions. We are tired of the existing institutional
00:40:54.380
incumbents that have abused or ignored hundreds of millions of American people for far too long.
00:41:00.540
And Don Jr. has been alert to this for long before the patriot economy was ever really a
00:41:05.900
publicized thing, because he has been canceled more than most anyone. I mean, I remember a few
00:41:10.820
years ago at CPAC, Steve, when Don told the story about how his bank actually canceled him. They didn't
00:41:16.320
want to take the reputational risk of banking with Don Jr., and they pulled the rug from him.
00:41:21.060
And so Don has recognized more than anybody in this country, the need to create economic
00:41:26.980
solutions that would celebrate the liberties that are inherent to every single American. These rights
00:41:32.160
are granted by God. And let's try to let's try to reboot. Anyway, publicsquare.com. Go there today.
00:41:38.720
Don Jr. is on the board. You go. It's no charge to you. You can sit there and look at all these great
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products and services. If you're an entrepreneur, if you're a company, you can also listen, get access to
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a vast market. We've known Seaford for a long time. He was a tech guy on Silicon Valley and kind
00:41:55.520
of saw the direction this thing was headed and decided to do and turn it around, do something
00:42:00.860
that was positive and powerful. And he's done it. Publicsquare.com. It's publicly traded. Don Jr.'s
00:42:06.600
on the board. So it's pretty extraordinary. We're going to go. I tell you what, we have a special
00:42:11.660
guest. I think he's going to try to be here in the D block. He's going to be here momentarily. We're
00:42:16.460
going to take a short commercial break. When I say this about getting rid of everybody, they all got
00:42:20.520
to go day one. But there's something else happening up here right now. And I got to give an alert. I
00:42:25.300
don't think people quite think this through. I keep talking about the Doge guys, the Elon,
00:42:29.340
these guys, they got to merge with OMB because they're advised to OMB. They got to get on this
00:42:33.100
appropriations process. The CR, remember, that's going to get kicked into the first 90 days of
00:42:38.940
President Trump. So President Trump can craft his own budget, which is a positive thing.
00:42:42.420
But this NDAA, if it's approved, unless somebody can explain to me otherwise, and I think I
00:42:48.680
kind of understand this, they're really blocking Elon and Vivek from any touching of a trillion
00:42:55.080
dollar defense budget. I think it's the top line numbers kind of locked in. Now, maybe this
00:42:59.560
is where we got to do the impoundment. But hey, we hate to start off playing Smash Mouth right
00:43:05.340
at the beginning. This NDAA, we got to get to the bottom of it. I think it just should be
00:43:10.340
kicked into next year. And if they got to say, well, it's got to be done annual, then just put
00:43:14.120
some little rider on it and vote. It's okay. It's going to be grandfathered. We're kicking
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Okay, special guest joins us, Boris Epstein. Thank you very much. Great to hear you.
00:45:06.240
Can we just get a summary on like where we stand with President Trump? Because I played the
00:45:10.360
Kristen Welker to start the show. She asked him, tries to trick him, well, would you turn
00:45:15.480
the page in 2020 and right now say you lost 2020? He goes, of course, I'm not going to
00:45:24.040
She did not. And with all due respect to Kristen.
00:45:26.580
Well, I like Kristen. She's very good. She's good people.
00:45:28.640
She did not bring her best and got absolutely annihilated. But it was a perfect lead-in to the
00:45:33.860
full-spectrum dominance of the weekend. And President Trump going to Europe, which I think
00:45:45.760
And besides Jill Biden playing goo-goo eyes, who did she vote? What's the over that she voted
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00:45:55.880
Well, if you compare the way she looked at Notre Dame to how they looked at the Kennedy Center
00:46:01.900
awards, I think the answer is clear. The chill between the Bidens and the Harris...
00:46:09.440
People, if you haven't seen that video, it's a little chilly.
00:46:12.240
The Harris-Emhoff family, it's cold. It's cold as ice.
00:46:16.340
It's colder than Moscow in December. But on the legal front, in all seriousness, President
00:46:22.220
Trump and his legal team, the lawyers who have done it, Todd Blanche, Emil Boeve, John
00:46:34.520
The team has done a completely unbelievable job.
00:46:40.420
An unbelievable, unparalleled job. And so the federal cases are dead. Jack Smith dismissed
00:46:47.280
the nonsense DC case. And to Crystal Walker's question, if she really has it, the size of
00:46:53.240
the victory in 2024 makes it clear that there's no way on God's green earth that Joe Biden
00:46:58.280
got anywhere near 81 million votes in 2020. So the Jack Smith cases are dead. January 6th
00:47:04.000
was dismissed. In Florida, interestingly, they dismissed the appeal because, remember, Judge
00:47:08.240
Cannon already dismissed that case. In New York, in that ridiculous witch hunt with Judge
00:47:20.080
It has not been. Alvin Bragg's not having a good time. And if there's something I know
00:47:24.300
about somebody, he's about to have a continuation of his bad time.
00:47:28.840
Let's put it overall. These witch hunts, this weaponization, the disgusting misuse of our
00:47:34.800
law enforcement has absolutely backfired on the Democrats, on the radicals, on the leftists.
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We had a jury of 150 million, roughly, people on November 5th, and they rendered their verdict.
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But that word still hasn't gotten here because they're in the White House with the war breaking
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out and the Ottoman Empire coming back, and they're still trying to get people across the
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border. We've got Ben Burke running them down there, people across the border. They're sitting
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there all night, and they're leaking this. So they must think it's a positive of blanket
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preemptive pardons. What does that mean for you, sir?
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Well, first of all, there's no doubt, and we've been very consistent about this, that
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the power of the president is infinite when it comes to pardons, right? It's unfettered.
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And overall, presidential power, presidential immunity, that immunity case, Steve, someday,
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long time ago, and we're both long gone, people will look back on that U.S. v. Trump
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case that President Trump won as one of the—that's a Marbury v. Madison level case.
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And a great job done by the chief justice in writing it. The breadth of it, the strength
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of it, in a lot of ways, it saved our republic. So that's one. What they're talking about
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over there, Cash Patek must be getting people very, very scared. And by the way, how about
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the reception that Cash is getting up in the Senate?
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Hexeth is in a good spot. President Trump put out a great truth about it a few days ago.
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Everyone's in a good spot. We're full steam ahead.
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And he wants this team. All day, we just had Charlie on here. He got shot in the head
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and then four months later won a landslide victory. He gets to pick who he wants to pick, right?
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It's the largest, most definite mandate, I would say, in recent modern American history,
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in modern American history. And President Trump gets to have the team he wants. Not the team
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that any sort of establishment group wants. It's the team President Trump wants. That's
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Real quickly, you've got about two minutes, minute and a half. You know this region very
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well, the collapse of Syria. How do we avoid getting sucked in? Because right now, that
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arc of instability, you know that territory very well. It's dangerous, and they're pushing
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us to do bombing runs, to go in there. What should we do?
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We've got to be careful not to repeat the mistakes of Egypt, not to repeat the mistakes of
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what happened in Libya after Qaddafi, and Lebanon all over the country. We absolutely
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And you know what's interesting? I remember I was in a specific place, and let's be honest,
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on the Upper East Side of Manhattan, people, oh, this is so exciting. This is so great.
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So great. It's the Muslim Brotherhood coming in. We've got to be realistic. We've got to
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be pragmatic. And really, we've got to make it to January 20th, because once we do, President
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Trump will be fully in charge. He's pretty much fully in charge now, if you look at what
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How much are they trying to box him in, both in the war, what they're doing with the balance
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shade of the country, and they're still trying to get, with the app, still get more people
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into the country? Those three big lines of work. Are they trying to handcuff Trump so
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It's either definite and intentional, or it's incompetence. As they say in casino, it's
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bad either way. And it's a horrible combination. Are they trying to handicap him? Absolutely.
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Do they not know what they're doing? Absolutely yes also. It's a bad combination. We've got
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to get through the next month and a couple of days now, a month and 10 days. And once we
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do, this country is going to be in safe hands with President Donald J. Trump.
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The first time people have seen you in a long time. You look not bad.
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Not tan like you, George Hamilton over here.
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No doubt about it. It's an honor to be here. Great to see you, Steve. Great to be in the
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original war room. It's a great place. And I remember three years ago, there's a lot of...
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Yeah, there were a lot of open time slots. Not like there's not a lot of open time slots.
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A bus. Yeah. Great to be here. At Boris EP on true social. At Boris EP on Twitter. Hot
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I'm coming in hot on the gram. And of course, head up to the website, BorisCP.com. It's an
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Mike Lindell, sell Boris a pillow. Go for it, sir.
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