Episode 4118： Relief Still Needed In North Carolina
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On today's show, Alex Blumberg and Sahil Kapur discuss the latest in the Trump administration and what they think about it. They talk about the new administration's picks, the impact of conservative media on the process, and the role of Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon.
Transcript
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Tulsi Gabbard, certainly in light of her meeting with ousted dictator Bashar al-Assad,
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You've got Kash Patel and what's going on with that.
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We haven't even gotten to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
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Yeah, and I'd also just like to add to that list,
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Linda McMahon chosen to run the Department of Education.
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You can't help but think of schoolchildren and the allegations she's been involved with.
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I think what is surprising, I guess it shouldn't be surprising,
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but what is clear is seeing how Trump, as president-elect,
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is coming in and strong-arming his way through these negotiations,
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They're really just Trump saying, I want this, give me this.
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That strategy is reflected in the way that he tweeted about his meeting with Justin Trudeau,
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the prime minister of Canada, by kind of degrading him and referring to him as a governor
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and sort of like referring to Canada as a 51st state,
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really asserting his dominance over these people by either, as Politico reported,
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making their life uncomfortable by having these MAGA activists make their life hell,
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by dragging them online or, as Sahil was reporting,
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threatening potential primary challenges in the future,
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or by making them seem like they're beneath him in power or in level when really they are two world leaders
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or two part of these two world leaders and they should be treated as equals.
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And he's coming in with no clear strategy other than, I think,
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knowing that he has sort of carte blanche to do whatever he wants this time around.
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Congresswoman Jayapal, there's no better time to talk to you than right now.
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What is the mood inside the Democratic caucus as you have the incoming president literally name-checking
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members of the House, former members of the House, saying they should be thrown in jail?
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You know, I think the mood is we are ready to have this fight.
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We are ready to take it to the American people.
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And we are strategizing around all the different ways that our caucus will work together,
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stay united, and make sure that we push back on these outrageous things that Donald Trump is saying
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and that he is perhaps going to get his cabinet to do.
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I also think that they did some cleanup after that interview.
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You know, they started, some of his people started saying,
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oh, he's not really going to set those people to jail.
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I just think that we are in a situation where we should wait to see what attacks he actually
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levies and be ready to go after them completely together and make the contrast to the American
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I'm not sure that everything we hear is going to be what he's going to do, but we have to
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James Carville has been on the air with my colleague Ari Melber saying that he thinks,
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you know, the person that has the most influence right now over Trump's staffing decisions and
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broadly the administration's agenda is former Fox News host Tucker Carlson.
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And then everyone from Elon Musk to J.D. Vance, a lot of these picks,
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Kash Patel, are straight from the mind of Tucker Carlson.
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Do you have any sense of the role he's playing behind the scenes or do you have a, you know,
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a thesis on or a hypothesis on kind of who's pulling the strings right now?
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You know, that when you think about the right wing media, you basically had Fox News and
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Rush Limbaugh and Rush Limbaugh had the narrative.
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Everybody was really, okay, he had a worldview and he was a storyteller.
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When he died, few people actually stepped into that void.
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The two that stepped into that void were Tucker Carlson.
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He had a narrative that everybody that he was driving that would filter down into the others.
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And so to James's point, he's right about one thing.
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And that's that that's that Tucker Carlson's worldview and his narrative and the story that
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he's telling about America and the rest of the world.
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And it's not a good story that a lot of the picks and the personnel and the policies and
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sort of the vibe of MAGA of what has become the professionalization of MAGA is coming from
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But I wouldn't discount the worldview that Bannon is sort of pushing out there as well.
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I think they each are people that are that have a narrative.
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But I think that's where Tucker's influence really is.
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I don't think he's picking individual people, but I think he's actually telling a big story
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that only certain characters can be a cast in can be casted for.
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Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
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I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to
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And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Wednesday, 11 December in the year of our Lord, 2024.
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We're pretty packed today and this evening already because there's so much going on, you
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know, between the transition, what's happening down in Mar-a-Lago and West Palm Beach, then
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Also, the fighting for the Trump agenda and President Trump's cabinet and other picks
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Other nonsense going on at Capitol Hill, not much of a productive, I might add.
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And then geopolitically, remember the three lines of work, let's go back to the basics
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We frame it around this, is the beginning stages of the Third World War, that what we call
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the kinetic part of the Third World War happening and being the center.
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Although the main thing in the dispositive question is always geopolitically in the 21st
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century, who's going to win the Chinese Communist Party or the American Republic?
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Everything should be thought of in that context.
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The arc of instability going from Russia, particularly southern Russia, we've turned into kind of
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a battlefield around Kursk and other places that are famous from the Second World War on
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Now, all the way down through Romania, Ukraine, Romania, the Balkans, Greece and Turkey, Tom
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Barrack, a close friend of mine and a warrior who was also imprisoned unjustly and had the
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courage to go to court, took a trial and won acquittal.
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Tom Barrack announced yesterday as the ambassador to Turkey.
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Of course, KG, a dear friend of the show and a dear friend of mine, announced as the ambassador
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These are two people very close to President Trump.
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Greece and Turkey, all the way through Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Iraq, you know, Babylon, Mesopotamia,
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You've heard a couple of those names before, maybe from like the Old Testament, all the
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way through, you know, Saudi, Persia to the North Arabian Sea, Persian Gulf, Red Sea.
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That arc of instability is now at the forefront.
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So if you're going to join us later, overnight or yesterday, $50 billion of your money and
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In a administration, once you lose, it's not like you're finishing out your eight years.
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It's not like President Reagan, when you finish out your eight years and you finish out your
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eight years and, you know, you're passing on, in his case, to Bush, kind of his third
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term, you should just stand down and allow the watch to be relieved, like in the military.
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On the three lines of work, the kinetic part of the Third World War, finances and debt,
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and then everything to do with the southern border.
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We have EJ and Tony, inflation numbers today, terrible, rising his head back up, Bidenomics
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If you look at the three big lines of work that President Trump has to sort out to get
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to, remember, we want to get through this to the sunlit uplands of peace and prosperity.
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How does President Trump get there and how does he get there with the team?
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And so in the resistance has started, the resistance, obviously, in the resistance, you
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should look at as a two sides of the same coin in the way the apparatus is run.
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And then you've got a progressive, particularly radical side of that on the, you know, with
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the congresswoman who's up there saying, we're ready for this fight.
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These nominations, we're going to, these policies, particularly in mass deportations, all
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And when I say neoliberal, neocon, remember, the FDR saved capitalism from itself.
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A lot of people argue that, but, you know, oh, you could have let markets go.
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Well, you would have had, you know, mass, you know, deprivation.
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The, the, coming from a working class family, I just remember my dad's stories.
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He died at a hundred years old, but he was, I guess, nine years old when the stock market
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And then he would talk about the early days of the great depression and how bad it got,
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you know, 50% of the men in their area in Norfolk were unemployed.
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And it's real nice to talk about theoretical, hey, here's what capitalism can do.
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But it's another thing when you ain't putting food on the table and you got five hungry kids,
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So the regulatory, the neoliberal was the regulatory apparatus that came in that became and metastasized
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The other part of that, the neocon part was the beginning of the American empire at the
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end of World War II, we were the arsenal of democracy.
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And then we sold out the Russian people to the Bolshevik, their Bolshevik overlords.
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And we sold out the Chinese people to the, to the Chinese Communist Party.
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Now you have a populist nationalist uprising in the United States led by President Trump,
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In talking about narrative in media, because this is, and one major element of it, it is an
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And, and, and you are the hoplites or the cadre at the tip of the spear in becoming force
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multipliers in that, in that war, watching the show, listening to the show, sharing our
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content, pushing it out, becoming conversant in the topics we talk about and making sure
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that when you go to the precinct strategy and we start to use your agency, volunteering,
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becoming involved, becoming engaged, even just having talking, you know, having morning
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coffee, if you got friends over for coffee or at the water cooler at the, in the company
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or just in the bullpen, when you're talking, just, just putting forward these ideas and
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the backup to these ideas, it's an information war.
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And that end right there was an interesting piece.
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And we hopefully may play some clips if we have time, although we're already pretty
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We're going to go from North Carolina all the way to Syria and talk about what's going,
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and everything in between, um, right there, the end was, and this is the difference between
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the old and the new, the old is kind of Jim, James Carville.
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And you see these guys all the time, you know, from the Clinton Obama administration
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up there, let me just talk smack, you know, Carville, if you look at Carville before
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in November 5th, he was sitting there, but Trump doesn't have a chance.
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They're nothing but brown shirts, you know, on and on and on all.
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Well, so you line a demarcation and it's one of the reasons that MSNBC's ratings have
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imploded and CNN's kind of a CNN didn't have much of our audience.
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Anyway, MSNBC, the really other side of us on the information war have imploded why they
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oversold two thirds of their audience is still in shock.
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So when North Carolina flipped late in the evening, I'm not so sure because we were doing our
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own show, I'm not so sure Rachel Madden and this guy stayed past midnight.
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I think they got out of town before Trump was, you know, was deemed the winner.
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But their audience is like sitting there going, they're finally awakening to the fact that
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Now you hear and say, well, you know, the Harris campaign knew they were behind all these
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Oh, yeah, we knew we were behind, et cetera, et cetera.
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And one of the things I'm so proud of this audience, look, I was in federal prison up
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You know, most of you are riding shotgun with me for a couple of days.
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We had the annual Christmas party of the war room last night when we had to.
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And we I think the speed I have a talk out there.
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All I know is that is that the restaurant that we took over and provide, I think they
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As people know, I don't drink and partake in anything like that.
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So I shook a few hands, took some selfies, had a great time.
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And but Mo and these folks are dragging a little bit this morning.
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So I think I've lost my voice because I actually when I'm when I'm off the show, I actually
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I'm kind of a I have a monkish a monkish thing because it's just I get so much going.
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I get so much so many things going on and I don't like to don't like to talk that much
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But I did lose my voice a little bit last night because so many old friends, new friends,
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a lot of staffers, a lot of people that make things work here in Washington, D.C., that
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But right there, Angela Carzone, I think is that Carzone from Media Matters.
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And Media Matters was an old enemy under David Brock of Andrew Breitbart.
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We give her a hard time of being our marketing director.
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But Carzone shows you it's a much more sophisticated look at media and the information war.
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than the standard stuff you just see on both Carvel and these guys.
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Now the work can finally start on the big issues facing the country.
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One of the biggest is the national debt and the deficits that drive it.
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The episode even prompted one of Murdoch's daughter's representatives to write a succession memo intended to help avoid a real-life repeat of the TV show.
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You can't make it up, or I mean, maybe you actually can.
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There is real drama surrounding what happens to Fox and the Murdoch media empire when the 93-year-old Rupert Murdoch, the real-life one, eventually dies.
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The real-life succession plan of the media empire is based around an irrevocable trust, one that would divide control of the media empire equally among Rupert's four eldest children, Lachlan, James, Elizabeth, and Prudence.
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What is the name of the – the show is not Suspicion.
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So it's just college football and or MSNBC news that we have to break down.
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By the way, speaking of MSNBC, I was at dinner the other night with some people who are progressive lefties, hardcore.
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They – I think Mika is the star of Morning Mika.
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They can't stand her, which I found – I made my pitch.
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It should be Morning Mika and it should be – she should get paid more than Joe Scarborough.
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These are long-term, long-time Morning Mika fans.
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They actually think Joe Scarborough is intelligent, which I found shocking because I think he's an airhead.
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But Stephanie Ruhl's show, though, if you're up late at night, like 11 o'clock, she's got a fantastic show that – the late show she took over from Brian Williams a couple years ago.
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She's a former investment banker and, of course, she's a lefty and can't stand Trump.
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But if you want to see a good breakdown of the news from a left-winger's perspective and people are going to go, Bannon, what the hell are we doing?
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Murdoch, old man Murdoch, the demon, the head devil, and the son are neoliberal neocons.
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All they are is for the wealthy, tax cuts for the wealthy, more money and power for the wealthy, more American troops.
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And this is one of the reasons I really cannot stand Murdoch.
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Not being an American, he was the biggest cheerleader and used Fox to cheerlead the Iraq war and clearly not just covered up or promoted Dick Cheney, a war criminal's worst elements on the lies we were told about the weapons of mass destruction.
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Then you had the fact that we didn't take enough troops and we couldn't hold it.
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I don't know what, 8,000 combat casualties, tens of thousands of other casualties led to PTSD, suicides, the horrible situation of folks back here.
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And Murdoch at some point in time just got tired and they got Tony Blair in England and the Australians into the war with us.
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And then when they just tired of it and they realized there was a political albatross because Bill Kristol, remember all those stooges they would have on Fox at the time?
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Bill Kristol said they're going to throw roses in the feet of the soldiers and it's going to be amazing and the troops are going to be incredible.
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And then you had that thing with the blue finger, remember they voted, it's just all a sham, all a joke.
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One of the issues up in Syria right now, we've got to face facts.
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The Muslim Brotherhood, yes, the Muslim Brotherhood and these massive organizations of Islamic supremacism and Islamic fascism that we would hope go away is not going away.
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Erdogan in Turkey is, he wants to reinstate the Ottoman Empire in the Caliphate out of Constantinople, which they still think is the biggest, since they didn't take Vienna, which Napoleon said, when you said to take it, take it.
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They took the west, the eastern side of the Roman Empire, the one that lasted for a thousand years past Rome.
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Hello, folks out there, the Judeo-Christian West, you heard of this one?
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Donald Trump shows up in Notre Dame, looks like Charlemagne, got all these munchkins running around, Pepin the Short, Macron the Short, Macron the Short, and the two elves, his wife and Jill Biden making goo-goo eyes at Trump.
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The information war is much more sophisticated.
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So Carville gives you the standard stock, Clinton, and those guys are increasingly irrelevant and they're being treated as irrelevant now in the media.
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Those decisions are being made right now by these channels and these networks.
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They're trying to, the new thing, and hey, they're going to have tons of populist shows.
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So populism is going to just pop out of everywhere.
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In fact, if we can cut it, Elizabeth Warren, Elizabeth Warren had the chutzpah, but this is kind of what you need.
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She had the chutzpah last night to come forward.
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This bill is from 2018 when she ran for president the first time.
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The bill is a bill of, she says, you know, working-based capitalism or, you know, gentle capitalism.
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It's got all those things that shareholder value, the maximization of shareholder value should not be the primary concern of a corporation.
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Hey, you know, there's an argument that maybe that goes overboard sometimes.
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When I was at Harvard Business School that you're stamped in that.
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The maximum, two things, maximization of shareholder value and globalization.
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Maximization of shareholder value, globalization.
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You get your union card, because I went to Harvard.
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You get educated, quote-unquote, at the college.
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Maybe not anymore because it's a propaganda factory.
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If you go to the law school or if you go to the medical school, if you go to the business school, it's just that you're learning a trade, okay?
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Globalization, maximization of shareholder value.
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And the question I put up on Getter is, yo, lady, Focahontas, baby, where were you in the beginning days of the Biden regime?
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You had Nancy Pelosi running her big mouth, right?
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Why didn't you raise taxes on the wealthy then?
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The working class African Americans and blacks realize it's a scam.
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The Democratic Party plays the long con on the working class people.
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That's why right now there ain't many working class supporting them.
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You got all these people that go to these universities, get all these degrees.
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They don't learn anything, and they don't know anything.
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It's all grievance kind of these degrees, and they're not relevant.
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So when DEI was bigger, DEI departments, all these people running around as DEI.
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And, hey, if you don't think the corporations are responsible, and they're the worst, because
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Everybody for years, give them tax cuts, deregulate, unleash these corporations.
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I'm not saying her way is right, but the way that we went is not right either, because
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The most powerful weapon against MAGA was in a tie, the weaponization of state power,
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That's what we became under Ray, under McCabe, under Comey.
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And by the way, Paul Sperry, the great Cain over at Citizen Cain over at Citizen Free Press
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put up again, what Sperry came out with years ago, about McCabe actually surveilling illegally
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This is why they don't want Kash Patel back in.
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So this all revolves around the big aspect of this, the fight of this, is disinformation
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war, and they're getting more, they've been sophisticated, they kind of got lazy, but
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Angelo Carzon from the New Media Matters, because it's very different than when Andrew
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went head-to-head with David Brock, and those were, David Brock versus Andrew was Alien
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I mean, that was big, for those days, that was big, because Andrew's the first guy on
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Twitter, first major, excuse me, first major personality on Twitter was Andrew Breitbart,
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Media Matters is different, and monitors us, monitors other people, but they're very
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sophisticated and smart in saying, hey, these are narrative engines.
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This is narrative framing, because they understand, you know, politics is upriver for culture,
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but in, excuse me, culture is upriver from politics.
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When we get to politics, the information warfare narrative part is upstream from the part of
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You have to get, you know, boom, here's our strategy.
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Here's where we're going, and we're going to move down this path, and everything then
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That's why they're trying, Onion's trying to buy Alex Jones and turn it into a parody site.
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Let's go to, I got Burquam, and I got, so the third line of work, the invasion,
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Holman saying shock and awe, they're going to, we're going to be thrilled.
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Trump says, first thing I'm going to do, day one, the reconciliation bill, the reconciliation
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bill that's going, it's supposed to be reconciliation first, is all on the border, all on mass deportations.
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I understand now, to give you some inside baseball, they're trying to move the tax up to that or
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One of the reasons it's not ready is that I'm kind of adamant about this.
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I'm just some schmendrick talking to the microphone.
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However, we can have our opinions here in the war room.
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I just don't see how, and this tax bill's not ready because you don't have the votes,
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I don't see how you can reinstate the tax cuts of 17 of Trump as they were.
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The tax cuts now have to be, take the tax cuts of Trump in the middle class and the working class,
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But then you have additions that President Trump committed and promised to on the campaign trail
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that got us this big coalition, no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime,
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and other things that are going to, guess what, decrease revenue.
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So therefore, we're going to have a bigger gap of a deficit.
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Oh, maybe taxes on corporations and taxes on the wealthy.
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Corporations, since you have the lobbyist and you force, the reason this government's so big
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and so, the Leviathan's so huge and the deconstruction of the administrative state continues,
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but has to be hammered every day is the corporations and the wealthy.
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Until we get to a balanced budget, we have to have cuts, lots of cuts, and they have to support us.
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Today's inflation, the lived experience of the American people still sucks.
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Maybe the people that have more, just to be fair.
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I know that's heresy, but we're going to have to work it through.
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Okay, on Capitol Hill, I'm going to get back to the NDAA.
00:29:33.800
I'm going to get back to the reconciliation, all the inside baseball you guys love, because there's a lot going on.
00:29:38.700
And I think we're seeing a resistance build up from the established order of the Republican Party against, I think, Doge and even OMB and this Doge-OMB partnership,
00:29:50.860
of which you know many of the players that have been on the show for years, I think getting a chop block.
00:29:56.700
And some people say, no, no, no, the NDA is not that bad, but we'll lay out the case and let you make the decision.
00:30:10.900
Remember, when North Carolina was called for Trump late in the evening on the 5th, that's where you saw the long faces.
00:30:17.140
Rachel Maddow and that crowd knew it was over right then.
00:30:21.320
But when we go to Mexico, we got Oscar Blue Ramirez and Ben Burquan.
00:30:24.600
Ben, in the third line of work here, they're flooding the zone, sir.
00:30:29.200
They're trying to get as many illegal aliens as possible across the border before President Trump and Tom Homan and Steve Miller show up.
00:30:38.360
Just so you know, I've reported from here before on the other bridge, Matamoros Bridge.
00:30:44.060
They've moved it to this bridge that you can see behind me.
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They were just flown in from Mexico City to Matamoros, and they're taking them to a hotel right now.
00:30:54.700
And then what they do, the new operation, is they bring them in the morning.
00:30:58.920
They take them across so that we don't see it, so that the media doesn't see it.
00:31:08.700
I can't believe you're telling me CBP-1, the app is still, this is, the American people are not going to tolerate this.
00:31:13.960
You're telling me that app is still up, having lost the election, as President Trump said with Kristen Welker,
00:31:19.260
it was the border and immigration and groceries.
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And today we know groceries are on fire again, folks.
00:31:25.460
E.J. and Tony is going to join us, walk through the CPI number.
00:31:29.920
And so right there, you're telling me, are you telling the American people right now
00:31:33.320
that Biden going out the door still has the app, and the app is active to the fact
00:31:38.200
they're flying folks up from Mexico City to the northern border
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and then get them across early in the morning so the media can't see it?
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We're going to make our way to every CBP-1 port of entry from here to Tijuana
00:31:59.900
I'm going to come back to you and Oscar in a second.
00:32:02.540
Folks, when you sit there and we report every day, they're leaking to the media,
00:32:09.300
This is one of the lines of work on the invasion of the southern border.
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We're going to get every email, every text message, go through every meeting,
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see what backed up, every of their executive orders.
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And look at here, the days, look, they're supposed to lay down their pencils
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and do nothing but coordinate with President Trump,
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and particularly with Homan and Miller got to do,
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and Kristi Noem have to do on the mass deportations.
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You understand the logistics and the works to be humane and empathetic,
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but they got to go, look what they're doing right now.
00:32:43.240
They have no intention of having the watch relieved in any kind of organized fashion.
00:32:53.480
We have the Speaker of the House of Tim Moore from North Carolina.
00:32:57.520
A speaker, Mr. Speaker, thank you so much for joining us.
00:33:02.060
Number one, how does President Trump do so well?
00:33:05.040
And I understand the gubernatorial candidate had some issues,
00:33:12.300
it just kind of shocked people about the performance.
00:33:15.560
And then you've got a fight down there where the House,
00:33:18.920
you guys are in a fight to make sure that there's not a mess,
00:33:21.940
that the new folks taking over are not going to turn this thing into a circus.
00:33:26.420
And there's a huge, I guess, resistance even for some Republicans.
00:33:29.540
So you walk us through, because Carolina's key.
00:33:33.480
I told President Trump in 16, when Carolina goes, I think we got this thing.
00:33:37.500
And on the 5th in the evening, you saw the long face of Rachel Maddow,
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man, hadn't stopped crying since Carolina got called.
00:33:49.980
Yeah, so we have a vote this afternoon on an override.
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Of course, we have an outgoing Democratic governor.
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And the big fight right now, we passed an aid package to help get aid to western North Carolina
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We have regulatory relief to get people temporary housing.
00:34:18.500
I don't even need to tell you how, you know, it's amazing.
00:34:21.100
Your other story about how, you know, they've just opened the gates to allow illegals,
00:34:25.400
the Biden administration, at the same time, you know, the terrible job they've done in getting aid to people,
00:34:31.220
our people here in North Carolina, who need this aid after the flood.
00:34:35.020
But, you know, the thing we did in this same bill was we put in some election integrity legislation to move the board of elections
00:34:44.700
from the governor to move it under our state auditor, because, frankly, I think we need auditing of the elections.
00:34:52.960
One race, for example, our Republican candidate for state Supreme Court, Steve, on election night, he was 10,000 votes ahead.
00:35:01.300
Today, after all these other provisional ballots and everything, he's underwater, 700 votes.
00:35:09.420
And so we've got some good election integrity to improve that accountability.
00:35:14.980
And another thing, you know how you get these state attorneys general that are joining all these woke lawsuits around the country,
00:35:22.660
whether it's pushing, you know, this radical environmentalism, whether it's pushing this transgender thing, all this stuff.
00:35:29.680
And we've got legislation to clip the wings of the attorney general so that they can't be out here pushing these crazy, woke ideologies.
00:35:38.880
And so that bill is on the floor today to override the governor's veto.
00:35:42.800
And we've got a few Republicans that are questionable, and I think they're going to come around.
00:35:49.860
And, you know, we need everybody calling the North Carolina legislature, encouraging the Republicans to stay strong and vote for this override.
00:36:00.660
We're a critical state in the presidential race.
00:36:05.420
And we need to do things to further expand election integrity and to make sure that votes count.
00:36:17.320
I think it's Rachel Maddow's been all over this.
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Alex, the key primetime line, MSNBC, have been hammering this thing in Carolina.
00:36:26.980
We have an activist base here of folks that want to use their agency.
00:36:52.280
But they can call and send emails to all of the Republican members.
00:36:57.260
We know no Democrats are going to vote for this.
00:36:59.720
But we need our Republicans to stay strong on this.
00:37:03.360
All these radical groups are going to be there today to, you know, to protest.
00:37:09.560
We've got, you know, all these woke folks that like to wander around creating mischief and protest for the sake of protesting or descending on our state capitol today.
00:37:19.060
And we need, you know, we need the MAGA world to step up and, you know, remind our Republicans to, you know, to stand strong and to demand that this be signed into law, that it go into law by overriding this veto.
00:37:33.780
And, you know, I'm really proud that President Trump carried our state.
00:37:38.040
I'm proud we've maintained Republican majorities in our legislature.
00:37:41.740
Disappointed we saw some losses in those council state races.
00:37:45.460
But, you know, the best thing we can do is do all we can to make sure there's election integrity.
00:37:54.480
And it will provide needed relief to people of Western North Carolina who have been impacted in such a significant way in this legislation.
00:38:02.360
If folks want to go find the bill, they can go to the legislative website.
00:38:12.780
And they can look at it and see what it, you know, see the reading of it there.
00:38:18.240
And for a state our size, we need, there's some folks that need to call today.
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Make sure people know they've got to vote for this.
00:38:35.700
I want to give an appreciation of what they're doing in Carolina, particularly you folks working on this, putting it under the audit.
00:38:44.620
You just talked about the situation there in your race.
00:38:47.320
In California, we lost three seats because they just keep manufacturing ballots.
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You don't know where these things are coming from.
00:39:04.620
Brother Johnson, Speaker of the House, I think Hakeem Jeffries might be.
00:39:07.760
So Carolina is absolutely central to everything we're trying to do here.
00:39:11.580
And I think it's magnificent you guys are putting it under the audit.
00:39:17.300
And, in fact, I'm actually one of the newly elected members of Congress.
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So on January 3rd, I'll be a new member of Congress from North Carolina.
00:39:25.300
So I've been there a while and, you know, getting the swing of things.
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But, you know, we've done good things in North Carolina, Steve.
00:39:34.820
But, again, this action item today is going to be critical to making sure North Carolina continues to be able to do what it can to deliver victories for Republicans up and down the ticket and move this country in the right direction.
00:39:48.260
Yeah, I can't imagine folks in Carolina, Republicans, have been put in there by folks with their hard work and, you know, walking precincts and doing phone banks and canvassing and stuff that would vote against us.
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They need to ask that all Republicans override the veto today of the Democratic governor on Senate Bill 382.
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Look forward to seeing you up here in the imperial capital.
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And we can't wait to get you in the war room and introduce folks to you here.
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That's Tim Moore, Speaker of the House, current Speaker of the House in Carolina.
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Hey, if you don't do this, and this has got the great relief in Western North Carolina, and no one's explained.
00:40:58.100
How FEMA, how FEMA, how those folks in kind of MAGA country in Western North Carolina, which is so beautiful out there, how they've just been thrown to the wolves on and no relief.
00:41:10.160
I did Don Jr.'s show, I'll be up on the podcast on Thursday.
00:41:14.940
Don Jr.'s been down there with Samaritan's Purse, you know, but your aunt has been involved in this.
00:41:20.640
All these folks living in Carolina, it's a mess down there, and there's no rationale and excuse what's happening.
00:41:29.480
And I might add, at the same time they're having to pass a bill in a state to get resources out to the folks of this natural tragedy, that we're doing $50 billion loan package.
00:41:43.320
Basically, your cash money, you're the full faith and credit of the U.S. government, cash money of $25 billion infused to the bunch of criminals, oligarchs over in Ukraine.
00:41:53.320
Mo Bannon, give me a minute on that before we go to break.
00:41:55.240
Well, it just shows you that this administration that currently is occupying the White House is all about America last.
00:42:02.140
The fact that we're sending money over to Ukraine again and again and again, and that we're also taking care of illegal immigrants.
00:42:09.340
And let me rephrase, let me repeat that, illegal immigrants, that we're sending money to make sure and opening our border for them to come across to house them, feed them, and not supporting American citizens is completely disgusting and disgraceful.
00:42:25.840
This administration should be ashamed of themselves, and that's why we, resounding victory for Donald J. Trump on November 5th, we knew, the American people knew that we needed change, and that's why we re-elected, put him back in the White House, Donald J. Trump.
00:42:43.520
Amen. That's a great hot take. He's getting pretty good at this. Great hot take.
00:42:50.380
Birchgold.com. Times of turbulence. We're only going to turbulence. I can tell you, the game's already been played up here.
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President Trump won this mandate, and the first thing, you had Elon Musk, and the brother wrote, and look, I got a lot of differences with Elon. He knows that.
00:43:03.940
I got a lot of differences with him. But hey, he stepped up and wrote a quarter of a billion dollars, cash money, starting, I think, about June.
00:43:13.420
Most of that went to get out the vote efforts, the pick-and-shovel work that got President Trump across the goal line.
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I want to warn you of a huge change that could be coming to our money and our bank accounts.
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First, think back to 9-11, shortly after the government pushed through the Patriot Act.
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If we say the wrong things on social media, donate to the wrong causes, buy firearms, or even vote MAGA,
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the government may be able to shut us out of our bank accounts.
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I can't say for sure if this will happen, but it's an interesting and dire warning.
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Is this now, you're like the, you're like the, in the old Today Show, when they had the, you just jump in and do the reads?
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Natalie said while you were gone that I'm in competition with Mike Lindell, so watch out, Mike.
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What a great job you did during the thing of holding the thing together.
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And Grace and then Natalie stepping up and being an on-air personality was just fantastic.
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I got so many compliments about you and Grace holding things together.
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They didn't, I think Raheem kicked them out at 1 o'clock.
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When the liquor ran out, they went home, right?
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And we had some great members of Congress stop us.
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We had a lot of congressional members, senators.
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But the key thing, look, the way the city works is that it's the staffs.
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But we did this to get the staffs and some War Room members that are out there.
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We're going to do some great, fun things out there.
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Get you ready for the coming year, the battles ahead.
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But also do some celebration, right, for Christmas and the Christmas season.
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It just shows you that Angela Karzan, brother, you've got the two narrative engines, according to you, sitting there opening night at AmFest.
00:48:52.580
Yeah, he just finished up doing some interviews, Steve.
00:49:01.220
And then these guys, just to show you what's happening, they're getting flown in every single day.
00:49:08.300
And then the next group, they get taken to the hotel.
00:49:10.060
And then this group right there that you're looking at was this morning's group.
00:49:13.340
They're waiting for the immigration buses to come pick them up.
00:49:15.940
And they're going to get a private charter bus ride over the border into America, right across that bridge, into America, on your dime.
00:49:27.980
And Steve, I think the worst part about this is how well-oiled this machine is.
00:49:33.760
When my work is talking about controlled flow, this is it.
00:49:40.360
You and Oscar have been there from the beginning.
00:49:42.260
I want folks, they were supposed to put pencils down on the morning of the 6th or the late in the evening of the 5th and the exact opposite.
00:49:51.780
And I want you to share these clips of Ben Burkwong.
00:49:53.880
When you say well-oiled machine, it's not chaos down there.
00:50:00.060
And I'm telling the NGOs and I'm telling everybody in my York is a crowd in the White House.
00:50:07.320
The American people have told you this is an invasion and they don't want it and they want it reversed.
00:50:12.060
You've heard what President Trump has said, day in a day, Tom Holman said.
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I don't care how much the media whines about this and how they throw their toys out of the pram.
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You're trying to destroy this country and you're using these people whose lives are going to be destroyed anyway.
00:50:37.460
So, Ben, walk me through that again about how this is a well-oiled machine.
00:50:43.800
Well, so every point along the way, whether you're coming from Venezuela or from the Middle East or from China,
00:50:52.440
And then as soon as you get to one of these State Department processing centers, one of these intake centers,
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they will then, you are now part of the system, and then they will fly you from that location,
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whether that's Mexico City or Tapachula or down in Panama or Guatemala,
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right up to the border or sometimes into the United States.
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Now, what we just witnessed this morning, it's the first time I've ever seen it,
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they were actually, we saw the group that was flown in this morning.
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They were brought into the secure area, an area we can't go to.
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And then they were picked up by, I'll let Oscar tell you about who's picking them up,
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From that hotel, the next day, their appointment is to go across the bridge.
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They're handed off to the immigration officials in Mexico.
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And then they're brought across the bridge, handed off to the United States,
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sent to any country they want after they're handed off again to an NGO on the United States side.
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And every point along the way, U.S. taxpayers are paying for it,
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what we're witnessing on the people that are involved in picking them up.
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You guys stick there, and we'll come back to you.
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We're going to go in the second hour of the morning edition of The War Room.
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We've got a lot to go about the surveillance of the FBI on Kash Patel
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We're going to talk about the geopolitics and the reality of the implosion of Syria
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